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dumping more pics of this shit.

because nobody gives a fuck about those little satans slitherin around except your confused soft ass

>>569133294
I bet more people care about these snake then about you.

Because dogs and cats are common household pets, and therefore are held in higher regard than rattlesnakes, a wild (and dangerous) animal.

>>569133380
lol but I thought you said nobody says shit...face it you are alone on this and always will be.

>>569133013
OMG STOP STOP STOP IT THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL CREATURES CREATED BY ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF YOU ARE NO ONE TO HURT AN ANIMAL YOU SAD MAN LEAVE THEM ALONE

>>569133927
Still does not make it fucking right in fucking genocide on a animal for no reason the animal is not invasive it not a pest it make no sense to kill them.

>>569134270
Round-ups are a sport. Sports are entertainment. Entertainment makes money.

Banning rattlesnake round-ups is like banning the hunting of deer or similar animals. Such a right is protected under national law.

OHHH WHACKING DAY, OHH WHACKING DAYYY

>>569134653
Hunting is regulated if people want to go out and kill a rattlesnake they should be free to do it but rounding up thousands of them makes no fucking sense. plus we have little data on there numbers and the gasoline they poor on the rattlesnake dens is toxic and may persist for a while.

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>>569133013
Like my boots?

because dogs and cats have basically evolved over the course of human civilization to be companions, rattlesnakes are venomous pests

good, fuck these nasty little fucks, they'er deadly and give me the weebie geebies. also i fucking hate retards that own snakes and shit and act as if they'er as smart and as capable of the same love and affection for it's owner as a dog or a cat.

>>569134967
Hunting a single rattlesnake, unlike larger animals, is illogical due to what the snakes are actually used for. For example, you can't really make any clothes from only one, and it doesn't provide much food.

It makes sense because it serves several industries. And the quotas were only introduced somewhat recently. The only remaining issue, I think, is the ethics of the whole thing. But ethics = loss of profit, and no-one cares enough for a potentially deadly animal to kill it humanely.

>>569133013
because people are idiots with no sense of morals other than what they've been taught by society

>>569135149
There are alot more humane ways to get rid of a pest like traps and repellents. You don't see people going rounding up thousands of raccoons.
>>569135546
I really dont have a problem with people hunting them for food or anything I fucking deer hunt when I its just there is no restrictions on it thats what really gets me. If they would meet a quota or some sort of limit that would sufficient for a lot of people who share my opinion its just the unregulated hunting of these animal will most certainly lead to their endangerment.

>>569133013

Are you fucking stupid? Are snakes domesticated? Are cats and dogs poisonous?

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>>569136192
>poisonous
>are you stupid

>>569136192
They could have rabies.

>>569136278
look at Mr 8th grade science here, knows the difference between poisonous and venomous, shouldn't you be out curing cancer with that giant brain of ours?

I kill rattlesnakes on a weekly basis on my family's property.

1) Rattlesnakes are pests
2) Rattlesnakes are venomous pests
3) Rattlesnakes are venomous pests that kill/eat chickens, cats, dogs, and can bite your kids

With the drought, rattlesnake are getting more invasive and desperate, and are coming into homes and on busy property. Kill as many as you can find, prevent an accident in the future.

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>>569136513
I'm a Park ranger its my job to know this shit.

>>569136278

are dogs and cats poisonous you stupid fuck, yes or no?

>>569136589
I see no issue with what you do killing them is fine just on a large scale like this is not ok.

>>569136620
you don't have to be a smug faggot about and act as if the guy who posted had no valid point because he made a common mistake.

>>569133013
Because people are fucking stupid.

Any person who eats meat, but is not willing to eat dog or cat or some specific animal is a piece of shit hypocrite.

>>569136513

>>569136620


you don't know shit, dipshit. learn english.

poi·son·ous
?poiz(?)n?s/Submit
adjective
(of a substance or plant) causing or capable of causing death or illness if taken into the body.
"poisonous chemicals"
synonyms: toxic, noxious, deadly, fatal, lethal, mortal, death-dealing
"a poisonous chemical"
antonyms: harmless, nontoxic
(of an animal) producing poison as a means of attacking enemies or prey; venomous.
adjective: poisonous
"a poisonous snake"
synonyms: venomous, deadly
"a poisonous snake"
extremely unpleasant or malicious.
"there was a poisonous atmosphere at the office"
synonyms: malicious, malevolent, hostile, vicious, spiteful, bitter, venomous, vindictive, vitriolic, rancorous, malign, pernicious, mean, nasty; More

>>569136789
i was defending you ya nigger

>>569136589
Dogs can kill your kids just as easily. Bulldog attacks aren't uncommon.

>>569136770

it's not a mistake. it's called hypercorrection. while not all poisons are venoms, all venoms are poisons.

>>569133013
wild rattle snakes bite, retard

>>569136789
i'm dyslexic

>>569136864

and you were defending incorrectly, you white knight faggot.

>>569136959
working in a state park for 5 years only 2 people have ever been bitten by a rattlesnake because nobody is stupid enough to get near a snake shaking its rattle.

>>569136964

that's why you want to be a park ranger.

>>569133013
Because an animals cuteness is detrimental to it's survival.

>>569137123

and then you are well aware of rattlers 2.0?

rattlers without a rattle?

no?

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It's really not that complicated retard.
People are more willing to empathize with animals that show loyalty or personality traits.
Especially when they've actually owned them.
I don't agree with any animal abuse, but people don't see rattle snakes as pets, they seem them as vermin that will kill a human, which we obviously value the life of more than a snake.
It's not hard, please think before you ask such obvious questions.

This shouldn't be something up for debate. Cats and dogs show affection to their human owners. Just 30 minutes ago my cat creeked into my room and jumped on my bed and onto my chest. Well, he lays half on me and half on the bed, he's a giant friend. but he does this often and he purrs as loud as my playstation 3. snakes are cold blooded animals incapable of affection:(

>>569136891
are you 100% sure that there is no venom out there that is completely harmless if ingested? I am pretty sure there is

>>569136652
>>569137123

answer the question you ed abbey wannabe.

>>569137218
that does not happen very often. unless a snake fails to shed properly,is injured or its is very young its rattle will most likely be fine.

>>569137434

no, you dumb fuck. the newest generations of snakes don't rattle.

they have a rattle.

and they don't rattle.

if you were an actual park ranger, you would know this.

>>569136869
If I thought my dog was a threat to my family I'd kill it just as quick.

>>569136739
It keeps the population down, and in California rattlesnakes have been acting up these past few years. I with the agree opinion that it's a blood sport that could be more humane, but I can't disagree with controlling the pest population.

>>569137123
K/D RATIO: YOUR UNATTENDED PARK

SNAKES: 2
YOU: 0


YOU LOSE NIGGER

>>569136589
I hope they bite a shit ton of niggers

because snakes are fucking gross bro

>>569137374

>ingested

fuck off.

>>569137543
nigga you dont know shit you are like the retards who would tell me cottonmouths are aggressive.

>>569137543
Coming from what credible source, exactly?

Youre fucked up if you think skinning snakes is in the same league as hit a dog with a shovel or ina washing machine you dumb ass fuick faggot.

>>569137641
ah okay thx confirmed for absolute retard.
you should realize that not everyone on the fucking planet speaks english for 1. language so instead of going full autist and commenting on peoples choice of words, how about you answer the fucking question you little nigger?
tl;dr
your bait was effective. 5/10

Ah yes, snakes, a mans best friend.

Get that shit out of here

>>569137767
>>569137831


educate thyselves, afterbirths.

http://tucson.com/news/science/environment/don-t-rely-on-rattler-s-rattle-to-warn-you/article_fa6e379c-9240-11df-bc07-001cc4c002e0.html

>>569137970

fuck you. if you are going to try to communicate in english, use it correctly.

use a different word, faggot.

>>569138030
I am a park ranger not a fucking herpetologist you numb nuts and that's hardly a credible source.

>>569138270

you're not a park ranger. you're just a jackass troll.

and it's a perfectly credible source.

>>569138357
you have no idea what you are talking about. That's not a scientific paper that's a new article that's posted to scare people into clicking on it for ad revenue you idiot.

>>569138357
EVERYONE KNOWS THE ONLY TRUE CREDIBLE SOURCE IS THE BIBLE

>>569138506

it doesn't have to be a scientific paper you dumb fuck.

a newspaper article is perfectly sufficient.

>>569138627

good point. and the bible tells us snakes are evil. kill those motherfuckers.

i live in az. i make it a point to kill every rattlesnake i see.

>>569138628
RT runs new article are you telling me i should trust them?

>>569138030
Pfffffffffffffffffff. http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/snakes/a/Rattlesnakes-Not-Rattling.htm

>>569138628
That's why we all turn to The Sun or The National Enquirer to cite works for our scientific papers.

>>569138729
>>569138729
arizona is a fucking garbage state m8

>>569138729
Except you are most likely some idiot who lives in the middle of a suburb and no where near any snake.

>>569138729
Love thy enemy, my brother.

>>569133013

You need to understand the difference between domesticated pets and pests, then you will understand why killing snakes is fine

>>569133380

Obviously there is, there's more snakes than him

>>569138758
>http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/snakes/a/Rattlesnakes-Not-Rattling.htm

>didn't read the analysis

FROM YOUR SOURCE:

"Experts disagree as to whether this claim is true or false. Steve Reaves, owner of Tucson Rattlesnake Removal in Arizona, says it's true. Some rattlesnakes have stopped rattling for one simple reason, he told Associated Press in July 2010: to avoid being killed by humans. Those born with a genetic predisposition to stay quiet have a better survival rate wherever they come into contact with people, Reaves explained. Jerry Feldner of the Arizona Herpetological Association agrees, as does herpetologist Daryl Sprout of Dallas, who told KLTV 7 News in Tyler, Texas that "natural selection is already beginning to prefer snakes that do not bring attention to themselves and therefore draw incoming fire from humans." Also in agreement with the general proposition is Gene Hall of the Texas Farm Bureau, though he, like the author of the message above, attributes the behavioral change to the threat posed by snake-eating feral hogs, not people."

>>569138778

i didn't cite either of those, and /b/ isn't a scientific paper, faggot.

>>569138863

false.

>>569138895

that doesn't include snakes. just people.

>>569139026
snake killing is fine snake genocide is not.

>>569139124

>genocide

you have a massive problem with words.

gen·o·cide
?jen??s?d/Submit
noun
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
synonyms: mass murder, mass homicide, massacre; More

>>569139080
Who said I was completely refuting that they do not rattle?

If you read a little lower on that page, you'll see that rattlesnakes have always been on-and-off about rattling before an attack. it's nothing new.

cause the bible says so, da

>>569139243
man you are just looking for anything to bitch about .

Because a dog or a cat can be tought as they have a brain while snakes can't be tought they act by their insticts. You can only remove it's glands so that its not venomous anymore or injrct some drug or something

>>569139310

>pffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

>damage control engaged

read stuff before you post it, tard.

>it's nothing new

your own source disagrees.

>>569139342

why don't you

1) learn your motherfucking language?
2) flip through a national geographic before pretending to be a park ranger?

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>>569139516
Well now that THAT'S all settled with, we should move on to the bigger discussion... DOLPHINS. Not only are those fuckers much more clever than dogs or cats, they've already worked their way into the heart of our country (both literally and figuratively). It's only a matter of time until they take over. I say we kill them all now, before it starts.

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>>569139516
>Stephane Poulin, Curator of Herpetology at the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum in Tucson, says he he's noticed no major changes in rattlesnake behavior over the past quarter-century. "Overall, rattlesnakes just don't rattle very often,"

>According to Keith Boesen of Arizona's Poison and Drug Information Center, there's no evidence that rattlesnakes striking without warning constitutes a "recent phenomenon."

>rattlesnakes don't always sound a warning before striking.

Get fukt. :^)

>>569139124

Genocide refers to people, you need to focus your anger on a worthy cause

>>569139882

and...again

Those born with a genetic predisposition to stay quiet have a better survival rate wherever they come into contact with people, Reaves explained. Jerry Feldner of the Arizona Herpetological Association agrees, as does herpetologist Daryl Sprout of Dallas, who told KLTV 7 News in Tyler, Texas that "natural selection is already beginning to prefer snakes that do not bring attention to themselves and therefore draw incoming fire from humans." Also in agreement with the general proposition is Gene Hall of the Texas Farm Bureau, though he, like the author of the message above, attributes the behavioral change to the threat posed by snake-eating feral hogs, not people."

that's 3 to your 2, faggot.

>>569139516
you have no idea what you're on about. Next time you go to a state park ask one of the rangers the same questions you have asked me see if he know you fucking idiot.

>>569140070


why do that? i am currently in the Master of Forestry program at NAU.

what's your pay grade again, faggot? g-11?


awwww.

>>569133013
Mammal masterace reporting in

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>>569140061
>he's noticed no major changes in rattlesnake behavior over the past quarter-century

>there's no evidence that rattlesnakes striking without warning constitutes a "recent phenomenon."

Behaviour doesn't just change over one generation of animals. Do you even evolution?

>>569140428

>behavior is based strictly off of evolution

>one generation of animals

>how does green text work?

>>569136192
>poisonous

>>569140272
>Master of Forestry program at NAU
Being this fucking ignorant.

>>569136652
>>569133013

hey you g-11 faggot, answer this fucking question already.

>>569140710

>stuck at g-11
>i love being pleb

don't be mad i'll be your boss, faggot. get a fucking education.

>>569140617
>implying a single behaviour can be generalised to an entire population within a single generation

Most behaviours are learned, not inherited.

>>569133013
Mostly because rattlesnakes are considered pests, same as rats, mice, etc. Dogs specifically are seen as pets and so there's a stigma about injuring them, abusing any animal unduly is shitty.

>>569140839

>single generation
>most

>>569134967
>gasoline
>toxic to the environment
>in that quantity

Yeah, no. Lrn2chemistry.

>>569140820
I'm in school now. to become would you guess a herpetologist.

>>569140956
Nigger, I don't think even you know what you're saying anymore. Your brain frying from being so utterly wrong?

It's okay. Maybe someday you'll read up on behaviour, and realise how silly you look right now.

>>569133013

Dogs are lovable. Rattle snakes are not.

>>569140963
the fumes that remain behind will intoxicate animals using the same den.

>>569133013

snakes are not very smart, very low brain function, more instinct than thought, no emotions.

Dogs have emotions.

>>569141080

that would entail a PhD program, dipshit.

>>569141278
yes it would your point?

>>569141097

>not a rebuttal
>behaviour

>>569141184

>intoxicate

>>569141360

that you are retarded, and not even remotely a PhD candidate.

you don

>>569141364
How am I meant to provide a rebuttal to:

>single generation
>most

What does that tell me? Also, where's your educational background? Psychfag reporting, right here.

>>569141448
>>569141360

>i'm a park ranger
>i'm a PhD candidate

>>569141448
intoxicated
>>569141531
i work part time

>>569141525

psychfag. what fucking level? BS?

>my education on human behavior is base for expert testimony on reptilian behavior

i already said, MF, NAU, in progress.

>>569141579

>intoxicated
>i'm a PhD

i don't doubt that you work park time. at target. as a cart runner.

>>569141782
never said i was a PhD

>>569135109
cool boots bro

>>569141696
>in progress
>implying you know any more that I do
>forestry
>implying relevance

Doesn't matter what level I'm on. Still more relevant than whatever you're studying. :^)

>>569141919

you said you were a PhD candidate.

and you use words like "intoxicate" in relation to animals being poisoned by petroleum products.

this doesn't happen.

checkmate, faggot.

>>569133013
Mostly because snakes kill more people than a well-trained dog. The badly trained dogs are rounded up, and people get upset because dogs normally do nothing but love you. If you have a snake for 10 years f your life and feed it and love it, it will never love you back. It will just tolerate your existence.

>>569142051

i do know more than you. that's precisely the implication. this MF forestry will be my third professional graduate degree.

and no, forestry is perfectly relevant to animal behavior. more so than a BA in psychology.

>>569142119

snakes don't kill that many people, actually. at least not rattlers.

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>>569142094

>>569142248
The third being preceded by what, exactly? Unless they're irrelevant to this discussion, then don't bother.

Also, what part of forestry is relevant to animal behaviour? The end product is the ability to observe and conserve forest ecosystems. What part of that requires a detailed understanding of animal, never mind reptilian behaviour?

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>>569133013
snakes 'n barrels!

>>569142450
Valid point. Apparently 26 dogs killed someone in the US in 2006, as compared to the average 10 deaths a year by rattlesnake.

>>569140061
>that's 3 to your 2

Since when was /b/ about quantity over quality oh wait

Ausfag here. Snakes are pretty okay. My sources are a long history of being close to snakes of the wild, poisonous kind. No weapons, no backup, just 12yr old me and a red-bellied blacksnake. We were less than a meter apart, looking into the other's eyes. After a few minutes I just walked away.

>inb4 underage b&
That example was from long ago, but it's probably the most illustrative.

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>>569142834
on that topic

>>569142569

>unless they're irrelevant

linguistics and speech pathology were the other masters.

environmental biology is a large part of the forestry program here.

better than a BA in psychology.

the fact is that we aren't talking about a single generation, and not all behaviors are learned.

snakes have been dealing with increasing encroachment for hundreds of years.

this includes natives. they weren't always around the southwest, you know.

and this also includes other animals encroachment on the rattler's habitats as well.

>>569133013
Because people usually are worthless scumbags that FEEL things more than they THINK about them.

That's why you have to be tough : to be able to think.

itt: trolls trolling trolls
also faggots

sage.flacc

>>569142924

quality, exactly.

my three are scientists, while only 50% of his are.

>>569143007

>that'll learn 'em

>>569142492


wow. that's real proof there.

>>569143274
I can get more? i have 5 years worth.

>>569142925


i fucking hate horse culture.

>>569143352

>five years as a part time park ranger
>also, a PhD candidate

sounds like a waste of time, anon.

>>569142943
So, they were irrelevant. 10/10.

>implying biology has anything to do with behaviour

>not all behaviours are learned

Never said they were. Just that the majority are learned.

Also, if snakes have been encroached upon for hundreds of years, why is it only now that they've started to stop rattling?

>inb4 evolution

If it was so detrimental, why gain that evolution in the first place?

>>569133013

OP, are you retarded? Seriously.

Cats and dogs are sweet and adorable companions who give as much love as they get.

Rattlesnakes don't give a fuck except to inject you with poison to put you in the ground and swallow your dog or cat. The world does not need rattlesnakes. We could kill every last one of them and improve the world for every living creature, especially the humans. However, most humans cannot live without the companionship that a dog or cat provides. And if you've never had your own dog or cat, you do not understand. They become a part of your family because their very nature earns their way into your heart. Rattlesnakes want you to become part of their list of victims, perhaps their next meal. Fuck snakes.

>>569143448
to clear things up I never said i was a PhD candidate you said that i said i was in school for a PhD there is a difference. A PhD is merely my goal.

>>569143546
snakes are essential to the world, obviously more than you think. they help keep mice and other pests down while if they werent there we would be over run with them. i do agree with op here but i alwso agree with you in part. we tend to care more about animals we can pet anc cuddle with. not so much the ones that can kill us.

>>569143352

>tag question

are you a chick?

>>569143487

>irrelevant

which by your statement means they should be considered, remember?

and no, hardly irrelevant. behavioral and developmental and abnormal psychologies were all large parts of the speech pathology degree.

>Just that the majority are learned.

and that's a useless statement, anon. since we aren't talking about the majority of anything.

who says they are only now reducing their rattle rates? we don't have a litmus.

>evolution is static.

because environments change, anon. this is how i know you are still an undergrad student.

>>569133013
Doog & cats have good qualitys, rattle snakes are pissy cunts that will fuck you up for very little reason. Breed gopher snakes and garden snakes to curb rodents but kill all rattle snakes

>>569143634

if you are in a PhD program, you are a PhD candidate.

if you aren't a PhD candidate, you aren't in school for a PhD.

simple.

checkmate.

>>569143802

your name is kelly, you form statements as questions, and you aren't a woman?

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>>569133013
because fuck snakes, they're fucking disgusting,

>>569143841
A herpetologist is a biologist, zoologist and ecologist first mate.
>>569143930
kelly is my boss.

>>569144007

oh so you WORK for a park ranger, and aren't actually a park ranger. meaning you aren't even a g-11.

checkmate.

>>569144007

and you aren't a PhD student.

checkmate.

>>569143743
>they help keep mice and other pests down

Cats are natural mouse predators. Several dog breeds were created to hunt down and kill mice and other pests. Yorkies were literally made to kill mice and rats on farms and in barns. The world does not need snakes. The world is worse because of snakes.

>>569144086
No I work as a park ranger my boss is from the county and manages the schedules.
>>569144170
back to earlier i never said i was i said i was in school to get one
checkmate.

>>569144267

you aren't a park ranger. park rangers don't "host" shitty events. you are just a part time/ volunteer who has dreams of going to school one day.

shut the fuck up already you hack.

>>569144380
we don't host events we host the nature center we have at the park where people come in and we tell them about the park.

>>569144267

>county

then you aren't a park ranger.

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>>569143932

>>569144474
The county runs the parks for the state.

>>569144449


park rangers don't do that, dipshit.

that's what community college students do.

i am saging this shit from now on.

>>569144546

>state

not a park ranger, faggot. you know that though, because that's not your job title.

>>569144548
except we do we are understaffed as it is so when volunteers dont come in to do that then we do it.

>>569142925

What's the point of this image?
Cows kill more people every year than Tigers or Bears. Which is a safer pet?

>>569144668

i am certain you do it.

but park rangers don't.

just like you aren't a PhD student.

>>569144726
just like i never said i was.

I've had dogs. Several of them. I have two dogs now. There was several years in between owning dogs where I had no dogs but only had two cats. I also owned two snakes. I had a ball python, the fucker was a nasty fuck. I gave it away to a friend. I got a sand boa. Fucker never moved. Laziest fucking thing wouldn't even kill its own prey. I had to kill the mice and leave the dead ones in the cage. Sometimes the snake ate it, sometimes it couldn't be bothered. It just wanted to sleep cured up in a corner. Dogs are awesome. Dogs are always up for whatever you want to do. Dogs bring the energy. Cats are cool too. Cats want maximum attention when they want it and then they just want to be alone. Cats love play time until they don't. Cats are like us. Sometimes we are ready to go, sometimes we just don't give a fuck.

>>569144772

yes, you did. you said you were in school for a PhD.

>>569144952
I said i was in school and a PhD was my goal.

>>569143364
yes, and the women that ride them smell like horse...fucking nasty

>>569145075

nah. you're just a full of shit cunt.

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Go ask Kenny glenn op

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>>569133013
we don't like to hurt animals that can show emotion apparently. A dog or cat can physically show that they're sad, while a snake can not.

>>569133013
Rattlesnakes are discriminated against simply because nature cursed them with an angry looking face.
It's okay to kill them because they're scary.

>>569144474
this guys is cringy as fuck

>>569137554
>It keeps the population down, and in California rattlesnakes have been acting up these past few years. I with the agree opinion that it's a blood sport that could be more humane, but I can't disagree with controlling the pest population.

Which part of california? I live in the bay area; should I be on the lookout?

>>569133013
Because snakes havnt been domesticated and evolved alongside humans in the sense of companionship. This is coming from someone who has owned everything from tarantulas to scorpions. Cats and dogs just share a bond with us that isnt the same as other species. Theres also plenty of fucking rattlesnakes, and theyre more then a threat to humans.

>>569142925
Because theres horses roaming around fucking up peoples days right? This is more of a conversation about humans developing out into the dessert and coming into contact with the indigenous species. Also what is anti venom retard