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/wwe/ General #1704 - Roman Defies The Odds...Again Edition
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How many weeks is he going to stand tall?

Even John Cena had nights where the heels got the best of him.
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Every RAW this month has ended with Reigns standing tall

You have to go as far back as the week after Survivor Series to find one where he didn't
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>tfw Motorhead won't play live when Triple H is at Wrestlemania

RIP Lemmy
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>>851565
i had an image in mind for the next thread but your's is better
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>>851572
anyone remember when he couldnt remember the words to the song and he faked it? he rocked it though.
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>>851577
Wasnt that both of the times he performed at wrestlemania?
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Ryback 16 time world champion

Kevin Overweight Owens Superstars jobber battle royale final four
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>>851572
f
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>>851580
youre putting less effort into these. Atleast post the ape pic senpai
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>>851576
Thanks bud
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I was at the Raw would it be safe to say this was considered a shitty one?
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>>851592
yep
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>tfw got bored and started watching a movie

should I check out raw on hulu or just read the highlights?
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>>851592

yes
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>>851595
Read the highlights. Nothing really happened on the show.
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>>851595
Was it that divas match?
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>>851593
>>851596
No joke I zoned out for about 40 minutes during it and forgot where I was.
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>>851596
So does /asp/ actually like Cena or are you fags just memeing.
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>>851592
95% of all Raws this year have been shitty
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>tfw Roman or Cena will go over Lesnar clean
Who will it be though?
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>>851605

The divas match went on for like 10 minutes longer than it should have in the first hour.

Ironically the women's matches have been getting the most time in matches in the last few months.

Paige and Charlotte also wrestled for 20 minutes in a RAW a few weeks ago.

I think it's time they acknowledged the whole divas revolution thing was a failure.
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>>851610
> implying it won't be both
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>>851610
Cena already beat Brock in his first match back years ago
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>>851607
I like Cena. Maybe because I stopped watching wrestling for 10 years and never got to see why all the nerds hate him so much. I still remember him as Doctor thuganomic and the US open matches have been good.
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>>851611
The Divas initially got a big pop but yea after about 8 minutes people were done. I think they piped out fake cheering during the beginning too.
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>>851613
i'm obviously talking about current Lesnar, the streak made him invincible. a shitload of fellas have went over Lesnar clean before he became a god.
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>>851608

>Only good RAWs from this year I can remember.

1. RAW after WM
2. That RAW for the WWE title tournament ending with the fatal fourway


Can't think of anything else that I can think of other than just 2 RAWs out of 52 that I've all watched. That's pretty sad.
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>the state of that Raw
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>that thunderous ovation for cena
>half the crowd goes into cena sucks mode

fucking based

wish he sold it like Angle though

>YOU SUCK, YOU SUCK
>Angle (walking down the ramp): *mouth frothing* I DON'T SUCK
>*makes very deliberate eye contact with fan in crowd while walking briskly* I DON'T SUCK
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I get the Cena thing though. There were so many handicapped people and kids cheering him. I now get why they can't just turn him bad.
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>>851618
at least we got some euphoria
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>Man without a promotion Hernandez is considering suing Lucha Underground (who blocked TNA from using him or showing him on broadcasts). Because he can't dispute the contract he signed, he may sue for on the grounds of LU being an unsafe work environment.
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>>851622
hernandez is horrible

>I'm a chollo body builder in real life...t-that should be my gimmick! I'm going to be so over!
>o-oh, they don't like it
>I'll be a heel but be the exact same thing
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>>851622
The only good thing Hernandez ever did was get whipped by that fat guy on LU
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>>851622
how did based rio get out of his?
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>>851628
WWE paid out his contract
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>BROOKLYN IS TOUGHER THAN YOU SON
>THIS IS JAY-Z's HOUSE
>mfw there's a Connecticut Muffin across the street from Barclay's center
>mfw Cobble Gardens is infested with 38 year old new mom's with hipster fathers
>mfw Ft. Greene is overrun by Pratt Art Institute students and their pansexual lovers
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>>851631

Queens masterrace tbqh
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>>851616
Pretty sure that only:

> Angle
> Goldberg
> Cena
> HHH

ever beat Lesnar clean and even 2 of those are screwy

>>851617
RAW in Montreal was good and there was a decent streak post-HIAC
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>>851626
LU is less than a month away

can't wait until that's the only weekly wrestling I feel the need to watch
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>>851635
Probably should've said a shitload of times rather.
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>>851631
>mfw Stephanie threatened the "Brooklyn police department"

Guys enough with the Brooklyn hype its not its own city.
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>>851637
Angle's the only person there who's beaten Lesnar more than once
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>>851639
Probably took shitload out of context
>tfw I never win a debate this early in the morning
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>>851614
>going straight from thug cena to us open cena
Consider yourself lucky you've caught him at the good parts of his career. There were some dark times during your absence. CENAWINSLOL is a meme for a reason.
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>>851634
sup tensnake?
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>>851621
>owens smells what the rock is cooking.webm
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>>851640
> context

Should've just said you accepted being wrong desu familia
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If Becky keeps it up, I'm dropping Sasha and officially making her my main waifu. I fall in love with her a little more everyday man.
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>>851644
Let me be senpai :'(
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>>851647
she doesn't show off her tummy anymore
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>>851621
>when she keeps succin
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>>851621
>tfw steens doing his sadistic orgasm face out of the outlaws

pretty awesome. We Kill Owens Kill now.
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>>851649
That means she has a belly just like Brandy Taylor who never showed her belly because she was fat
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>ass-car injured my waifu
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>Nia Jax is a fag hag

COLOR ME SHOCKED
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Bae-ley is so qt with her hair down

also this tino guy could be great, he's got like a 48 inch vertical, hope sethgod is spending some time at the performance center helping the noobs
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>>851649
That's because her abs are gone, anon. You can see it if you look closely enough. She's went the same way as Paige.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrOtEl0e5vk

>the state of zack ryder

this is just cruel
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>>851663
Tino is utterly dreadful and I hate that BG focuses on him so much
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>tfw IWC smark neckbeards losing their shit about the crowd chanting "boring" during the divas match
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>>851663
hes scouting the divas for his new sidechicks.
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>>851667
he's used to it by now
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>>851670
it was though.. the match was legit slow and stale. Which is suprising since Sasha and Becky do better than the majority of the main roster divas. Match sucked fat cocks
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>>851667
serves him right for getting over on his own

>not putting your fate in the hands of wwe creative

good luck broski
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>>851670
> tfw 3 of the first 4 words in your post are buzzwords

18+
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>>851670
it had sasha in it so no doubt it was .
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>the divas division without based nikki
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>>851673
I only check the BR comment section for keks and giggles, but holy shit is that some comedy gold. Divas matches are boring yo
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>>851670
Pretty pathetic desu. I really like Sasha and Becky but the match was not good. The m'lady types just need to realise that everyone has bad matches now and then. Not to say I wasn't a bit disappointed myself, especially because of how good their past matches with each other have been. Pic related was one of my matches of the year.
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Who has the best voice in WWE?

Pic related I could listen to regal talk for hours
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Shoenice WWE guest appearance when?

>yfw he eats a divas used panties
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>>851680
He really does have a great voice. I like Cena's normal talking voice too desu. It sounds comforting.
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>>851679
anyone else here kind of hope NXT is the downfall of WWE?

NXT gives us crazy good matches like this and Zayn v Neville and the main roster will never be nearly this good. Except for Cesaro, BMJ, Seth in the Rumble, Brock and Taker, nothing in 2015 wwe has even come close. They had to trot Mr. McMahon back out to get Roman over. He's going to be in the match next week, how much longer can that carry?
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>tfw she wasn't around during the WWE-Playboy years
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>>851680
Bray Wyatt, Sting, Miz, Dean on wwe.com/youtube segments
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>>851686

Probably quite a while. The issue with RAW/SD is less talent and more booking. That won't change as long as the current crew are in place and it'd take a deathbed miracle to drag Vince out of that position.

Also NXT has a very weird relationship with the larger wrestling fanbase. A lot of stuff that gets over with the crowd simply doesn't catch on elsewhere.
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>>851686
they dont know how to build up more than one star at a time.
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>>851686
I hope it eventually causes them to shape up at least. It's WWE's only real competition in a sense, despite being from the same company. I don't mean to sound like one of the full sail morons but the matches really do surpass the main roster easily, for whatever reason.

Vince is probably willing to die in that ring if it gets Roman over at this point. It'll be interesting to see how long this popularity lasts when Vince and Rocky aren't there to carry him anymore.
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>>851687
Who is this whore?
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>>851694
Kaitlyn
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>>851691
when did this start?

I stopped watching in 2001

it's my understanding from watching and reading it went Angle > Lesnar > Cena > Orton > Batista > Edge > Punk > Bryan > Reigns

But didn't they also mega push Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin, Rob Van Dam, Rey, JBL, Edge, Jeff Hardy, ADR and the fucking Miz?

Seems like this is as laser focused as they have ever been. I guess Seth's injury is a big part of that (and Dean having a resistor plate on getting more over than Roman).
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>>851665
Sasha lost some definition as well
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>>851698
It seems every woman there is cursed to become gradually out of shape when they move up. Flabby Bayley when?
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>>851697
Because there were 3 brands before and now there's only one.

>mfw the most I've been entertained by wwe in 10 years was ecw with jack swagger finlay Christian and random dudes
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>>851690
>A lot of stuff that gets over with the crowd simply doesn't catch on elsewhere.

Probably because NXT is booked well and RAW isn't
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>Dane Brooke's leaked nudes
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>>851699
nikki does well.
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>>851701
And RAW has an entirely different audience. A lot of those who attend it are just casual watchers who want some simple entertainment and fun with friends. NXT crowds are generally hardcore fans who are more difficult to satisfy, or at least respond to a different kind of booking.
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>>851705
If the NXT crowds are more difficult to satisfy then it would be EASIER for acts to get over on RAW
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>>851702
>WWE has come to terms with the release of NXT Diva Dana Brooke
before the week is out
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>>851708
>are more difficult to satisfy then
lel
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>ywn have a taste of Tenille
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>>851712
> Zack gets to do that every night

WOO-WOO-WOO YOU KNOW IT
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>>851708

They're more difficult to satisfy because they're looking for a narrower band of things, but its also a different lot of things compared to what the RAW/SD crowds want.

What gets over in NXT isn't guaranteed to float on RAW for essentially the same reason that what gets over in ROH isn't necessarily going to get over on RAW. The smaller crowds are pickier, but they also don't want what the big crowds do.
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>>851715
> big crowds don't want quality programming

RECORD
LOW
RATINGS
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Lenny from the Motor Heads died. My fav song is Ace of Speades
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>>851719
Fuck off?
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>>851719
Youtube is that way Rasheed
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>>851717

They want quality programming. They just have a different definition of it to the much smarkier NXT crowd. You can see it pretty easily in what each crowd pops for.
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>>851731
> there are people still clinging to this fallacy

The crowds for Takeover & SummerSlam were virtually the same Brookylnites and had vastly different reactions

Stop making excuses for WWE being an objectively terrible program solely designed to appeal to Vince McMahon
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Was anyone expecting a Cena/Roman face off? Like I know they are keeping them away from each other as much as possible, and I know Reigns v Cena is a rumored match, but I think if they did go that way a nice faceoff would have been nice. Like they are not even in the ring together. As soon as Cena was out the ring, Roman shows up. Jesus.
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>>851735
They did after the show went off the air.

Besides they can't have Cena showing up the new dog now.
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>>851735
>As soon as Cena was out the ring, Roman shows up

what if they're the same person
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>Cena return
>can't even give him a win

Fuck this company and fuck the raw
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>>851743
Past your bed time jimmy
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>>851745
Stfu punk bitch
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>>851745
Found the virgin
Shouldnt you be sticking your Kevin Orewens figure up you arse while softly wanking lad
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>>851749
I make fun of KO all the time

Maybe if your parents allowed you to use your computer more often you'd know that
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>>851607
Only edgy virgins dont like BMJ

>>851614
This same shit happened for me. Cenawinslol is not a thing to me
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This man will save us from Ramen.
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Man I almost forgot Cesaro was with the company. Kinda miss him honestly...
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>>851565
Please, Romans no where near as bad as Cena yet. You're forgetting the 2006-2007 era
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>>851755
>can't cut a promo to save his life
Roman's already worse than Cena at his worst.
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>>851753
Our last hope
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>>851756
This. All of the super hero booking and none of the charisma.
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>>851757
That was one nice move
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>>851751
This "Only virgins dislike Cena" meme has gone on long enough, and im about to kill it. Cena's garbage who ensured that an entire generation of wrestlers were denied an opportunity to flourish, and Im about to post nudes of my ex on /b/.
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>>851758
Bada bing bada boom. Realest guy in the thread.
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>>851760
>and Im about to post nudes of my ex on /b/.
Lol fuck off to /b/ and stay there
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>>851756
The character might be worse, but the reign isnt as bad yet. Seriously, Cena's year+ reign was the worse period of wrestling that I was around to watch, and I've been watching since 97
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>>851762
So you're acknowledging that you cant refute me, right? Ill post the link bb dont worry
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>>851763
Oh don't get me wrong been watching for roughly the same time, and those mid to late 2000s were a struggle and a half to watch. But yet somehow they've managed to make Cena's replacement as the face of WWE as an even worse version of him.
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>>851764
I'm more concerned about edgy /b/tards posting outside of their containment board
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Hurrr durrr when does Christian return
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>>851770
>bowling ball hits midget.webm

based. Neville sold that like a charm
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>>851770
>Owens is now embroiled in a feud with a midcarder nobody
16 time diva champ when
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>>851773
>implying he wont squash neville on smackdown and go back to feuding with deanetty until RR
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>>851767
>edgy
While you're worrying about that enjoy my little former fuckbuddy. Used to bang her behind her bf's back.

>>>/b/660080425
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>>851771
He has a show on the network with Edge. Don't know when it premieres. Sometime january I think.
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>>851776
Lmfao that face
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>>851778
yeah Im pretty sure she was autistic. Fucked like she was working through all her daddy issues though.
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>>851779
k I deleted it.

Anyone who has an appreciation for a diverse main event scene hates Cena. Whether or not you've gotten your dick wet is irrelevant
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>>851740
I would legit buy into that because at least it means wrestling is getting whacky again

Like Roman Reigns is John Cena from a dark apocolyptician future and Reigns is there to take Cena out.of the line of fire for when Lesnar inevitably goes nuclear roid rage and performs the chaos suplex, destroying Wrassling and most of the east coast
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>>851781
>>851779
>>851776
>getting worked so hard by shitty b8 he actually posts "nudes" (that don't even show nips) on /b/ to prove he's not a virgin
>doesn't even post it on /asp/ because he's scared of a ban in a place where mods never go
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>>851781
You taking pics from your friends phone while he is having a shit doesnt change anything
Only edgy virgins and underagers hate cena, it is known
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>>851765
I agree. My only point here though is that we havent yet had to endure over a year nonstop of Roman overcoming the odds. I hope that doesnt happen, but I wont be surprised if it does. Fucking VInce.


>Hey, lets not do the things that we did during our most consistently succesful eras and instead fall back on the same incredibly outdated rubric that worked before kayfabe was broke! Brilliant!


The sad thing is the same people who bitch about the current state of things seem to crave the predictable monotony that leads to things being this way. I remember when Reigns went ham on triple H at TLC everyone on here was saying it had to be a heel turn since a face cant act like that and I just found myself thinking.... "Why? Why cant we deviate from the norm a bit and work a slightly different angle? Will that really cause so many hypocritical autism attacks?"
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>>851782
>Like Roman Reigns is John Cena from a dark apocolyptician future and Reigns is there to take Cena out.of the line of fire for when Lesnar inevitably goes nuclear roid rage and performs the chaos suplex, destroying Wrassling and most of the east coast

This would quite literally be better than any of the shit we've been served lately.
>the absolute state of that raw opener
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>>851783
>>851784
>moving the goalpost and catch 22
Stay mad guys
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>>851760
> and im about to kill it
All you killed was my bad mood with how pathetic and easily you got b8d

Why are all cena haters always so edgy and awkward lads?
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>>851770
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>>851789
> le mad meme
Confirmed underaged virgin
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>>851787
>Hey, lets not do the things that we did during our most consistently succesful eras and instead fall back on the same incredibly outdated rubric that worked before kayfabe was broke! Brilliant!
Vince had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Attitude Era. Pretty much the only reason it happened was the alternative of the company going under.

I'd like to see them start pushing the boundaries with the faces again, but they need to be entertaining in the ring as well as on the mic or else it all falls apart.
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>>851796
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>>851772
Neville has always been great at selling, going as far back as his 2nd NXT Tag Title run
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>>851788
> Chaos Suplex

Gable already did that at Respect
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>>851795
I'd prefer a babyface who's genuinely likeable instead of the smuglord dickbags WWE has been pumping out since the Brand Extension
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>>851577
That was actually in his tribute video
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>>851709
Nah. It'll be seth again. Haitch won't fire a bodydbuilder
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>TFW Cena sama couldn't save raw

Nice promo with del heato though
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>>851819
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>>851819
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>that segment where all those washed up losers kept coming out and Big Show knocked them all down
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>>851824
>del heato

"Of The Heat"?
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>>851828
> implying that Big "PLEASE RE-TIRE" Show isn't washed-up
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>>851834
I meant that hes washed up too. But is there anyone more irrelevant than Goldust?
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>>851838
At least Goldust still has it
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Holy shit this angle with Vince being arrested is so fucking retarded

They're really pulling out all the stops to get people to tune in but this is just trash

>STOP YELLING AT ME LADY OR YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL INSTEAD!
What the literal fuck
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>>851844
Vince is so infatuated with Reigns he's willing to prostrate himself to get bbygurl over

Has there ever been a more desperate push?
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ryback wwe chimp when
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>>851852
Around the same time as Cesaro and Barrett
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>posting broken for almost four fucking hours
This happens every other day now. When is Moot coming back?
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>>851697
Actually it went HHH > HHH & Orton > HHH & Batista > HHH & Cena > Cena > Reigns
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>>851798
thick goddess
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>>851592
At least Cena and del Rio were fun on mic, so that is like 5 min of entertainment out of 2.5 hours
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>>851592
This Raw actually made me laugh a few times.

So 4/10 one of the top 5 Raws of the year.
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>>851859
Chinese leddit mook is probably adding yet another trial board and that's what's fucking it up.

>12/30/15 New trial board added: /furn/ - Furniture and Carpet
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my neck
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>>851753
Nah, he had his chance, had a best-case intro to his reign and fell short because he can't talk. Boring.
Someone else fresh or just shut the shit down pls
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>>851873
dad, your neck.
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>>851873
>>851875
roman
u bastid
my neck
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This year we lost
>Dusy
>Piper
>Christopher Lee
>Lemmy
2016 will only be worse
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Could anyone else taste Vince's desperation on Raw? He's going all out trying to keep Roman's momentum going. Why doesn't he just admit defeat and accept that Roman can't get over without Rock/Vince/HHH?
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>>851859
Everyone left because someone made a Kevin Nash thread
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>>851881
of course I meant Dusty before anyone greentexts me
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>>851881
Ozzy will be soon. If Lemmy can die then I guess so can the prince of darkness.
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I'M A BAD MAN

GIVEN BAD MEN BAD LOOKS

PRINCE AMONG THIEVES AND CROOKS
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>>851882
>Could anyone else taste Vince's desperation on Raw?
At the end it was pretty fucking embarrassing when he announced himself as the special guest ref and there was no reaction so he just started yelling "Happy New Year!" repeatedly hoping the crowd would react, and they still didn't.
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>>851883
So you're the faggot that made that thread, fuck off.
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I am /othersportsteam/
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When's he coming back?
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>>851848
go back to wew
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>>851848
I like how stupid marks like you still think Vince is behind Romans push, when Haitch himself has publicly confirmed Roman is a HHH production.
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>>851882
I remember when they even depended on Ric Flair to endorse Reigns on RAW and it didn't work.
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>>851916
Vince has the final say in everything that goes on. If he didn't want Roman to be pushed then it wouldn't happen.
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>>851918
Obviously, but you guys act like Vince is the only one whos behind Roman when he's not even the number 1 guy behind him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfo9JavxEcU

Angle was fucking comedy gold. I miss him so much.
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Deany vs Ziggy vs Kevi vs Nevi - fatal four way for the Intercontinental Title and Royal Rumble.

Book it Vince, it'll be a certified 5 star match.
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This Wrestling with Wregret queer is like some kind of Channel Awesome reject. Paul Latza should have did a wrestling channel
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>>851844
>Roman knocks a 70 year old man down
>cops say they won't arrest him
>Steph yells at same cop
>threatened to arrest her

That shit was stupid as fuck. Why the hell wouldn't they arrest Roman, but would Steph. That made my autism flair up!
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>>851927
Wasnt Stephanie threatening them?
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>>851882
Has anyone in recent history been pushed as hard as Roman? Orton is the only guy I can think of, during his legend killer gimmick.
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>>851930
Brock Lesnar
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>>851929
She yelled at them to arrest them, because she laid for them to do security at Raw. She didn't threaten them until they handcuffed Vince. Was still stupid.
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>>851927
They'd probably say it was "justified."
>>851929
No she was not.
I don't know how that angle was supposed to make Roman the babyface, I'd sympathize more with the mcmahons.
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>>851930
He's probably the most forced push in a very long time, that's for sure.
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>>851930
Lesnar
Orton
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>>851932
Brock was legitimately a monster, even his rookie year. I understood that push. Roman hasn't really shown much, yet this push clearly won't end anytime soon.
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>>851930
Orton is similar but they actually had back-ups (Cena and Batista) that they were willing to move to after his face run flopped.

Unlike with Roman where they completely ignore potential backups.
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>>851939
Which could bite them on the ass if Roman gets injured.
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>Roman interferes in the main even again taking out the whole League of Nations all by himself and looks strong as fuck

please stop
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>>851943
Get use to it, because this will be the norm for the next 7 or so years!
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>>851944
>Implying LoN will even be around past mania.
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>Barrett in the tag match
>basically does nothing besides a random distraction or two
>not even tagged in unless I missed it
>doesn't even appear in the main event when Rusev and Sheamus help Del Rio
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>>851947
There will always be jobber heels to beat up

>>851948
His neck is rekt atm
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>>851943
>roman only appears on Raw to punch a mcmahon or to save a face more over than him
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>>851611
>>851615
The problem is what made female wrestlers so successful on NXT wasn't being given long matches, it was being given coherent storylines that built to big matches. IE they were just booked like men.

On RAW they are just given meaningless matches again and again with no stakes that just go on and on.
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>tfw was actually kind of excited when jobbers started to come out for Miz TV
>that huge fucking pop for Ryder
>Goldust dancing to R-Troofs music

>Beeg appears, clears the ring and sets up a match against him and Ryback AGAIN
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>>851953
This applies to most of the roster really, but yeah especially the women. Absolute cluster fuck as always. It gets stale watching Becky v Sasha for the 50th time this year.
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Who the fuck is Ramen going to feud with? Cena's taken and Lesnar is big PPV only. Ramen is the strongest on the main roster by far, we don't have credible heels.

>Owens defeated by Ambrose clean twice.
>Brayy Wyatt beating up old people
>Meem of Nations can't defeat Ramen together.
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>>851958
Shaymust
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>>851565
Is this supposed to be the equivalent of Austin coming in at the end of RAW and stunning everyone?
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>>851668
Why are people bitching about Tino? He at least looks like he's trying. The problem is ZZ. The fat fuck had like 14 weeks to work on his cardio while on TE. And he never did. Now he's on BG, and his cardio is still shit. The fat fuck isn't trying, shows zero potential and seems to think this is all a game. Why is he even still on the show?!
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>>851955
The unique thing was that women have never really been booked like that in WWE, it's always just been insane bitch/lesbian/insane lesbian bitch vs face, and even then they wouldn't build to big matches in the same way.

What NXT did was have women's feuds that revolved around who was the better wrestler, or standard underdog stories, whatever. It was nothing revolutionary, they just used the standard cookie cutter storylines that have been pro wrestling staples forever, but they work for a reason.

WWE manages this style of booking but often only in the main event, the rest of the card just being random inconsequential shit week after week.

NXT's success kind of shows that Cornette was right: if you put the wrestling centre stage and act like the competition actually matters, everything is elevated. And that kind of basic common sense booking can easily work with Russo-style "sports entertainment." Thats the mix the Attitude era got right at its best, imo.
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>>851942
When he gets injured they're fucked, he's literally 50% of the show
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>>851943
You know, it's obvious as fuck because it has been happening in-front of me in a very lazy fashion but the other night I really pieced together and realized just how obnoxious this current angle was.

>take four guys
>put them together to give Roman odds to overcome
Okay, fair enough, it's been done before.
>but then Roman – at every opportunity – single-handedly beats them and firms the notion that he can defeat them all alone
>routinely, systematically a repeatedly feeding four guys who are each singularly more talented than Roman to him on numerous occasions
>also pairing three other guys who are ALSO each more talented than Roman – one of whom is a Champion and should focus on his own belt instead of prioritizing being Roman's side-kick – alongside Roman
>when Roman has proven he doesn't need help to beat up all four of his adversaries

>literally funnelling the majority of seven different people's efforts into getting Roman over

It's just too much. The roster seems so thin because so much talent is shoved towards one man.
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>>851958
It funny how he's been champion for 2 weeks, and has already buried every heel in the company.
Has beaten cleanly within the past year
>Bray
>Big show
>entire LON
Who the fuck is left as a viable top heel?
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>>851967

Ryback. Monster heel run soon.
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>>851964
>50% of the show
>barely over
>only shows up in the opening to smile and laugh at the mcmahons or in the last 5 minutes of raw to save a face
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>>851969
>monster heel
oh you mean big guy who cheats and is a chickenshit?
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>>851970
>implying that the rest isn't filler where the commentators literally talk more about reigns than the match
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Went to the house show last night. Holy shit, one of the worst shows I've ever been to.
Crowd was barely into any of the matches.
Sandow got a decent reaction though.

Watching RAW later. Was it better than usual or same old product?
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>>851970
It was an over-statement by him, but you can't really deny a lot of air-time is given to Roman.
It's exactly what happened with and made Seth so shitty. Except Seth could at least ALMOST carry his own segment because he was at least a functional speaker, Roman offensively obviously needs everyone else standing in the ring holding his dick so he can piss the segment straight.
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>>851970
>barely over
If you can get more cheers than boos in new york and the crowd isn't dead silent for you then you're over.
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>>851974
Seth WAS great though. He was great on the mic and his matches were fantastic. It makes sense for the title holder to be on as much as he was, especially when you consider the character he had.

Roman, by contrast, is barely on, but when he is on, it's the worst and most offensively forced shit to get him over. He's saving John fucking Cena of all people.
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>>851975
at this point it isn't worth cheering anybody else
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>>851977
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>>851977
>He was great on the mic
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>>851977
Seth was okay on the mic but absolute shit at the lengths they gave him to talk. He was nowhere near good enough to carry that length of segments.
That said, you're right, he's fantastic in-ring. But he showed it monthly at best and everything in-between was utter recycled tripe.
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>>851977
Rollins did worse promos than Wyatt.
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>>851953
>On RAW they are just given meaningless matches again and again with no stakes that just go on and on.
So they're booked just like the men?
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HOW TO FIX THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS

>make Rusev an actual monster, give him a more a more Muay Thai moveset with vicious knees and elbows, give him an impact finisher, let him speak more and allow his personality to shine through, let Lana accompany him and the LoN so he has someone he has immense chemistry with to play off
>let Barrett be the group's designated speaker and strategist, make brass knuckles and the clever utilization of them a core part of his gimmick, he hands them to various members of LoN during matches
>make Sheamus more of a ruthless berserker, grow a proper beard and start wearing Celtic war-paint and bring back the crucifix powerbomb
>give Del Rio some assassin-looking attire like a lower-face mask and never let him talk, stop pretending Mexamerica was over

>let them win matches
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>>851985
Lel. As I said in the second post, at least the main event scene on RAW has proper feuds sometimes, even if Vince forgets the rest of the card even exists 90% of the time.
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>>851992
So Women should be treated on-par with the Main Event with proper storylines?
They're not even deserving of anything but the Total Divas trash they're given, let alone prime focus.
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>>851994
Paige?
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>>851994
Is that the chick from NXT that's with Emma?
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>>851993
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>>851994
Please don't disrespect my mother...
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>>851973
Worse than usual desu
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>>851994
>>851998
>Dana is 25
>looks like a 37 year old college professor
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>>852001
That's what being fake and plastic does to you
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>>851966
When you put it like this it's just apparent how retarded it all is. How does anyone in 'creative' think this is good? We could be in for the worst section of this company's entire history and that isn't hyperbole.
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>>851577
I AM THE GAME AND I AM STEAK
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http://strawpoll.me/6385778
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>>851950
can't risk him getting hurt

that would honestly be hilarious
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Would CM Punk be a Jedi or a Sith?
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>>851994
based dana
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>>852011
he's already shit
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>>852011
Kill yourself tripcunt
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>>852011
this grill has lewds
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>>852011
Benoit yourself LBGT Luchaprick
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>>851989
not bad
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I love watching how bootyblasted smarks get over Beeg. All the crying online is great. People are STILL bitter over the rumble, which was pretty much a year ago now.
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