How do you know what Martial Art is best for you?
Been doing boxing (Western kind) in a shitty gym, quit 6 months into it, but I'm still drawn to martial arts/ combat sports, but hesitating between a lot of them. How are you supposed to make a choice? What made YOU start practicing the MA/Combat sport you practice?
>>733345
>What made YOU start practicing the MA/Combat sport you practice?
It was in my price range, location, and the instructors were not totally full of shit, plus it actually had sparing was not profit driven.
>>733345
I decided that picking martial arts that actually work in fights was best for me.
Many people do not choose this.
>>733345
I've always loved Kung Fu, and for most of fifteen years i've done some version or another of it, but the reasons I gave myself changed a lot.
When I was in my mid teens I was fascinated by the movies and legends surrounding the art. It seemed like the ultimate thing to invest in, just develop this amazing physical and mental power and conquer all of the inadequacies I had at the time.
Late teenage years and early twenties it was about fighting. I thought the world consisted of the strong and the weak, and that I wanted to be one of the strong. I looked down on 'sport' fighters, or those that didn't train 'real' kung fu. It was a pretty unhappy stage really. I started cross training in other arts to learn how to beat them.
In my mid twenties I realised that the chinese obsession with perfect technique and never using strength or muscle was working againt me. I began lifting weights, and started working as a bouncer in a low income area. Started trying to integrate more judo, and basically moving towards an MMA mindset.
By my late twenties, i'd been in plenty of 'streetfights', and my skills, although pretty average overall, had been more than adequate for the situations I was in. I realised that this big monster of 'violence' that I'd been preparing for was just a bunch of mentally ill people projecting their issues at each other. If I became one of those mentally ill people, I would eventually get damaged no matter how good I was, but if I was a good communicator and had sound instincts on when to involve backup/police then it became a far less dire problem.
These days Kung Fu is my art, like painting or music. It adds colour to my life. I do take parts of it and tailor them to very specific goals, and crosstrain, spar and pressure test those elements. But those aren't the whole of my training just like violence isn't the whole of my life. Martial arts is healthy, it's social, and I enjoy doing it.
1. Is it nearby?
2. Is it available when I have time?
3. Is it fun?
4. Does it work?
Voila.
>>733470
So that's why you picked ninjustsu? :^)
>>733524
No, Krav Maga.
>inb4 wrestling sportsfags would shoot in on me
Good luck dealing with a knee to the face
>>733546
>implying there's a difference between sushi LARP and hummus LARP.
>>733550
kek
Alright, let's get this thread going: kyokushin karate or muay thai? Pros? Cons? Differences in philosophy?
ow do you know what food is best for you?
Been eating food (Western kind) in a shitty restaurant, quit 6 months into it, but I'm still drawn to food/eating, but hesitating between a lot of them. How are you supposed to make a choice? What made YOU start eating the food that you eat?
>>733560
KK
>pros
mad body shots
heap as fuck
defined by "hit the other guys until he falls down" thus ensuring minimal, if any, mcdojoing
>cons
No head punching
No clinching
No takedowns
No elbows
MT
>pros
Almost a full system, just lacking groundwork
Constantly evolving due to a thriving pro scene and integration into MMA training
Cheap as fuck to go to thailand and train with world class fighters and coaches
>cons
boxercise joints claiming MT
cash grab MMA joints having coaches with little experience fighting or coaching
can get expensive due to MMA integration
I picked judo.
I'm a big guy without much flexibility and didn't think striking would be my thing. I wanted competition and fitness and wasn't too fussed about self defence.
The club I joined had been around as long as I could remember, and the people were really nice.
I still enjoy the hell out of it.
Taekwondo!
-Recognized internationally as a sport event
-Long range combat style
-Able to spar without leaving permanent injuries to the point that you can't continue in the future
-Awesome Demo events known as Tricking
-Lower cost, just need uniforms and sparring gears. in other words expensive gears does not reflect personal performance
>>733586
Too bad you don't really spar
>>733606
Sparring is for pussies. True skills are mastered in the horse stance
Muay thai
-respected MA, no1 talks shit about you, MT and boxing is god tier striking
-wide arsenal
-spar every sesion
-killer work-out, most people are ripped in the gym and have 6pack
-coolest outfit
-not that I have anything against grappling, but I have never seen any situation where that shit would be usefull in my life, so I don't see any point in cross-training or doing MMA
>>733581
I just started Judo last week, doing 1 session a week because that's all that fits into my schedule.
Had my first go at Randori Friday and it was super fun, granted I got thrown about like a ragdoll but with practice I'll get better :)
Started doing ITF taekwondo because a guy came up to me in the street, that club changed into kickboxing, became a mcdojo (or maybe I just became wise to it). Took up point kickboxing with a FMA on the side for a bit, good fun had to leave based around transport mostly.... Just started karate the other week and am enjoying it a lot.
>>733546
>Krav Maga
Fedora core.
I don't think there's a single best martial art, since they have different strengths and weaknesses. different fighting situations call for different techniques.
in my amateur opinion, these are best:
krav maga (as a foundation)
mauy thai (striking)
ju-jitsu (indirect, joint locks)
judo (throws, holds, etc.)
eskrima (weapons coverage, complements others)
sambo (groundwork, complements others)
feel free to criticize this. my thinking is that to be a martial artist, you should use skills that are effective, work together, and have wide coverage.
>>734824
how is krav maga fedora? it covers alot of effective tactics, it's designed to be efficient, and it can be learned quickly - that's why I think it should be used as a base.
>>734830
Grab mango isn't a martial art
>>734835
my impression was that krav maga is respected. do you have any reliable sources on what it does wrong?
>>734837
Krav maga is like MCMAP
sure, it "works", and it only takes a month or so to learn
But honestly? After that month it's gonna stop improving you.
Compare to TKD, where you need to practice for 5 years before you even "Know" it
There is also the quality control issue - would you really trust a MA found most commonly in a fucking crossfit box?
Sure, KM in isreal might be good, and if i'm ever in isreal for pilgrimage i might try to train with the IDF for free gun training, but training in the IDF consists of
1. Shoot them with your grun
2. Hit them with your gun, back up and shoot them with your gun
because guns work.
I would say the one you have most fun with. If that is your goal. If you just want to make people kaputt, you would do boxing or MT.
Otherwise, you have to consider whether you could attend it. I have such a dilemma right now. Well, actually it isn't a real dilemma, but rather bad circumstances - I do boxing, which is a lot of fun, but there is also a HEMA club and I went to one practice session, which was lots of fun. I would love to pursue both of them, but unfortunately, the session times for the swordfighting do not fit my schedule, so I would either have to go only once every other week or less or miss boxing, which I won't do. So I only go boxing, sadly.
>>734859
I see, that makes sense. would you say it's only good as an introduction?
>>734863
Or you could do litterally anything else and actually improve
Would you take MCMAP classes if you could do boxing or judo or anything else?
>>734867
I see your point now. it's just that the internet is full of stuff about KRAV MAGA = COMBAT READY. the internet in general is full of bad info about martial arts, which is why I asked.
in that case what is the best foundation? hapkido? jeet kune do?
>>734889
I'd personally recommend a striking art, MT whilst I haven't tried myself seems to be considered the god tier, there's also grappling arts like Judo which I've just started and am having a lot of fun with.
I'm not sure if you're OP but to answer the first question I started with Kickboxing when I was younger to try and build confidence and an ability to defend myself which in all fairness came in very handy. A few years ago I got some pretty bad foot problems and last year I got surgery to fix them.
I wanted to get back into martial arts but to do something different so I went for a grappling art, found Judo and now am having lots of fun.
>>734889
TKD
because after TKD everything that uses your legs will be easier
IE everything
Oh, but honestly, follow your instructor carefully or your knees will chambers themselves
>>734903
>tkd
Or you could not waste your time getting good at something that's shit.
>>734973
That's why when erik paulson made STX, he didn't put any TKD in it, rite?
rite?
RITE?
>>734973
I always lol when people on this board shit talk tkd so much
I lol even harder when they say they're a 4th degree black belt who trained for 10+ years.
What is CQC (from MGS) really based on? Ive been researching it since I began replaying mgs4 but I cant really find any info that make sense.
>>735276
Looks like judo
>>735198
It's mostly just an odd kick here and there brah. I mean, it would be hard to include it since he did it for so many years.
Keep in mind that most of the "odd" kicks he included were already apart of shooto as can be seen here by his shooto teacher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHC2mKY6_IM
See how many people you can name in the video. I hope at 4.
>>735259
Only TKD guys say that shit though. No one here has trained for that long, let alone in a belted art. Either way TKD is pretty gay
>>733546
Oh no a knee to the face while I slam you on the ground because instead of sprawling, you got up on one leg.
>implying grapplers only shoot for the legs anyways
have fun in your slappy larp class, faggot.
>>734903
For one thing you have to understand that 99% of TKD Gyms are complete McDojos. The odds of a beginner finding a good one is close to none.
I would recommend Wrestling to a complete beginner if they were American and in high school. I would recommend an MMA gym to someone that doesn't apply to and just say learn as a foundation whatever class you have the most fun in.
>>735785
Yup all those strikes, weapon fighting, disarms, standing joint locks and throws, and fusion of armed and unarmed techniques sure are trade marks of judo.
>>735276
What I am wondering is how the fuck do you leg kick someone in a way that they flip over on their head and get knocked out consistently like in MGS.
>>735894
Mocap suits I think
>>735894
its a fucking video game m8
>>733345
What made me choose the place I am at now is that my friends were there, it turned to be a life changing decision later.
Still, feel free to try stuff. If you like combat sports then you should take something combat oriented. It depends on the teacher though. There's not really that much of a difference between standup MAs, they are all the same thing with a different approach. What you will learn if your instructor knows his craft is body mechanics, anatomy, the physics of the moves you learn etc. Pretty much every punch/kick is based on a few (or one) basic movements. If you actually learn the system (physical and mental) of MA in general, transition from one to another will be really quick and easy.
>>735894
Really really hard, I guess?
>>735893
You learn how to disarm a rifle as a orange belt
>>735934
This.
Unless you learn Aikido, in which case you'll know nothing of use.
>>736043
Not that rifle disarms are useful anyway. Most real life soldiers counter it with the ancient ancestral technique of "straps".
>>734903
I did TKD till black belt (level 1) and I'm finding that it's fucking up my MT training. I just got into MT and Hapkido (both at the same dokjo so it's easier to do both) - striking and grappling/locks rolled into one, which looks promising so far.
In TKD you end up bouncing a lot because of the way you're supposed to shift weight and kick, but muay thai uses the ground more to throw punches and it's really throwing me off. If anything I would steer clear of TKD.
>>736136
That young Asian youngster Anon did TKD and then MT, and he seemed to be doing just fin in MT, as shown in his video(s), and he even MT sparred, throwing a decent amount of TKD kicks, and even told us about how he threw a tornado kick the first time he was there or something and the lead there liked his style or something.
The same Asian Anon even used a good blend of TKD and Muay Thai in a street fight, as shown in the video.
If anything, you should just train until you get good.
>>736136
git good
>>733496
Underrated
>>735876
Sorry, but knee to the face = game over. You won't be doing anything if you eat a knee, the most solid contact point the body has with the greatest possible amount of force per square inch.
Head = Concussion
Nose = Broken + 50% chance of KO
Jaw = Broken + KO
It's game over. The only thing you'll be shooting is your meals for the next 2 months.
>>736348
I wish the video of Shamrock vs. Kimo at UFC 48 was online. What a great fucking knee to the face that was.
>>733546
>thinking you'll land a knee
>>733345
What fighting style does Solid Snake use?
He uses a fictional style that currently dose not exist called CQC.
>>736779
Incorrect
>>737061
In what way?
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/CQC
>>733447
Pretty much me.
>>736348
>Sorry, but knee to the face = game over
You have never been kneed in the face in your life, and you obviously don't believe what you're saying. If you'd ever been in so much as a rugby or american football game you'd know that a knee to the face sucks but it doesn't stop you from moving forward if it's done by a retard with no power or technique like you.
>>737320
I don't know, every time I ether kneed someone in the face full force that was driving in or been kneed full force while driving in it was ether game over or the beginning of the end.
A well timed knee as a counter to a shoot delivers a fuck ton of force to the head. Why would you think that it would not be effective?
Then again I am not the dude you are arguing with nor do I really care. Just chiming in to say that a knee to the head is nothing to fuck with.
>>737369
this
I'm starting Tai Chi next week, not because I want to learn how to defend myself but because I want to develop internally as a person and I feel tai chi is the best option for that. I also have severe anxiety/mental health issues, and I feel tai chi's philosophy of being totally relaxed will help me in the long term
>>737424
As long as you are not getting ripped off price wise it is a nice healthy exercise, and once you get use to it, a calming form of moving meditation.
>>737492
One guy was teaching Wu style for free, but he had to stop because he got a job in another town, but a Taoist Tai Chi (Yang style) club is opening in town next week. I'm actually pretty stoked
>>733345
What got me interested in the Asian martial arts is the incorrect notion that they were more effective than western boxing and wrestling.
They're not. Matter of fact, most of them are inferior to both, with rare exceptions.
As soon as I met, and sparred with, actual boxers, I dropped that shit and started boxing, and between that and some BJJ training, I finally found what works pretty well for me.
>>733345
>How do you know what Martial Art is best for you?
By experience. You try something and if it's not the right thing you try something else.
You will learn something in every martial art and no one can tell you what's the right martial art for you.
>What made YOU start practicing the MA/Combat sport you practice?
As a kid I saw a guy from my school doing Kung Fu and I was thrilled by the long staff spinnings. So I traind in Kung Fu for two years.
Then I moved to a different town and tried various martial arts (i.e. Aikido and Escrima for some years) and finally ended up with Judo, which I enjoy a lot.
I think it's not only about the martial art itself, but about your personal situation (age, financial, competitive focus and so on). If I had trained Judo some years ago I wouldn't have been ready for it. And even though I'm not doing this weapon realted stuff anymore, it was good fun and I don't regret it.
>>738039
>You will learn something in every martial art and no one can tell you what's the right martial art for you.
Except for someone more intelligent that also knows more about martial arts and yourself.
>>738047
I don't know what you are trying to say, but my point was that you have to try things for yourself. It's often differnt than you think, i.e. you might start boxing and find out you hate mouthguards so you start grappling instead. Or you start Wrestling and find out that you are freaking out if some dude rubs his crotch in your face..
Those are things you have to experience yourself to find out if you can deal with them or hate them. Martial arts are not a LARP game, every style has his own philosophy and it's own flow..
>>738049
I agree that people should try out different martial arts to help understand them more, and to help chose an art.
All I'm saying is that one must be knowledgeable about a person (one's self, perhaps), and be knowledgeable about the art for said person.
Not every body knows themselves well, and not every body knows martial arts well.
Also, not everybody is intelligent enough to use their knowledge of themselves and martial arts to determine "what martial art is best for you". (quoting OP post)
