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Is this the moment that killed WCW?
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They tried to ruin this RAW but it had
>Prime Austin receiving one of the biggest pops of all time
>Prime Rock with top heat as heel
>Degeneration X ringside running interference for Mankind
>The Corporation pkaying mega-heels
>Shane O Mac as the heel referee
>Ken Shamrock to offer legitimacy
>VKM mastering his Bossman heat to transform into the perfect heel
>Mankind playing the Rocky role as the underdog winning against all odds

Bear in mind the Finger Poke of Doom had just happened on WCW. Did telling their own audience to sample their competitors product (business suicide 101) finish them off?
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>>1382888
It did produce what may be the best line in all of the attitude era given its historic context.

"-puh!- That's gonna put some butts in the seats."
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>>1382903
Kek. Had forgotten about that - you're right, in hindsight that's easily wrestlings funniest line
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>>1383264
Also David Arquette winning the WCW World Heavyweight Championship put the final nail in the coffin.
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>>1382888
The fact that they had a title change to an unlikely babyface on live TV was amazing luck considering THAT was the episode WCW decided to spoil.

Think. When was the last time you saw the WWE title change hands on a non-ppv?
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>>1383278
Rock's cousin did it a few months ago.
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>>1383278
>What is the December 14, 2015 episode of Raw
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>>1383278
Last year when Reigns got it bbygrrrl
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>>1383266

How did they let that shit slide, anyway?

30 Years of Legacy to do a promo to a C movie? (I liked Ready to Rumble, but still)
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>>1383322
>I liked Ready to Rumble, but still
Jeez even those double dubs won't mask your shit taste.
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it didn't kill WCW but definitely turned around the Monday Night Wars

Stone Cold's rise had basically put WWF back head to head vs WCW but after that Monday, WWF took the lead

then WCW started doing crazy shit and committed suicide

The Fingerpoke of Doom was the first of the crazy things, but WCW still had a lot of weapons to tie up with WWF again. They didn't.
Hogan by 1999 should have been dumped. People were tired of him (again), of the NWO and so on. It was the right time to push Booker T (instead of 1 year later and things had degenerated quickly).
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still a reminder that Foley's fat ass put WWF in the lead and sent WCW into a panic that would lead to mistake after mistake

proof that looks are actually rather irrelevant

Foley was loved for his crazy characters and his effort while big boys like Luger couldn't draw a dime

It's like Vince forgot everything he has learnt in those days
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>>1383356
Vince learned nothing, he was dragged into Attitude kicking-&-screaming.
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It's one of many blunders WCW made. Almost everyone that knew anything about the business in WCW (but didn't have any power) knew that burying Mick Foley was a stupid idea. Tony Schiavone even called Mick Foley directly after the show to apologize for his commentary which Bischoff had fed him.

It's one of the most decisive victories for WWF over WCW, while WCW still had a chance.
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>>1383371
This. The "Attitude era" would never have happened if WCW hadn't forced Vince to completely reinvent his product to match WCW's.

But now he's essentially running a monopoly and can do pretty much anything he wants until TV inevitably comes knocking, asking what the fuck happened to the ratings.
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>>1383278
it wasn't live tv. that's why/how WCW spoilerised it.
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>>1383278
Stupid for a few reasons
>it wasn't live
>it was commonplace for wcw to give out raw spoilers
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>Prime Austin receiving one of the biggest pops of all time

what the hell was bigger than that pop?
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>>1382888

"no". WCW killed WCW, and The Fingerpoke of Doom had little to nothing to do with it.
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>>1383729
Hogan slamming Andre?
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>>1383732
not close the commentators could not be heard when Austin came out
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>>1383729
>what the hell was bigger than that pop?
Nothing I know of but I could've been wrong
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>>1383729
ziggler's music hitting when he cashed in?
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>>1383488
He'll move everything to the Network by then and wrestling will go back to being a territory business
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>>1382888
Mick fucking Foley buried WCW.

People got interested when they heard someone besides Austin/Rock/Undertaker won something big
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>>1386886
18+
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>>1383729

Maybe Jericho "winning" the title from HHH on RAW, with help from the APA? Probably not quite as loud, but the crowd was going apeshit.
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