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>Shinsuke Nakamura
>Sami Zayn
>Finn Balor
>Samoa Joe
>Nevile
>Aj Styles
>Kevin Owns
>Baron Corbin
>Hideo Itami
>Seth Rollins
>Dean Ambrose
Are we entering a golden age of talent?
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>Baron Corbin
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We've got one of the most talented rosters in decades with some of the worst booking in decades.

> Corbin

m8
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Inb4

>Deanetty
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>>1126217
Don't forget Roman Reigns
I mean if you're going to include Boring Corbin
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Also:

> no Cesaro or HarpGOAT
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>>1126217
Yes if the booking was any good, which it aint
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I pray to the wrestling gods that somewhere down the road nakamura gets moved up to the main roster and they don't fuck it up entirely.
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>>1126217
wwe has 2014 tna tier booking, so only some of those will reach their potential.
maybe aj.
shinsuke might.
joe might.
ambrose's le wacky guy gimmick will help.
idk about the others.
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And they're all going to be booked into shit while Ramen Rings overcomes the "haters" for the next 15 years like Cena before him.
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We're exiting the golden age, it was the golden age five to ten years ago when most of these guys were in their primes before they tried to enter WWE to finish their careers off when they realised they needed to make as much money as they could while their knees still worked.
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>>1126217
>no RuRu
>no HarpGOAT
>no Cesaro
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>>1126217
>Neville
lol
Apart from that pretty good list.
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>>1126283
Neville could easily make a strong case for being the best of that bunch.
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>>1126254
Saw nakamora in person last night vastly vastly overrated. Zayn carried him nak did some things right but his offense is so limited he's highspots were good but zayn did the lifting.
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Too bad feuding with Reigns will ruin them all.
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>>1126288
>Neville could easily make a strong case for being the best of that bunch.
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>>1126293
>whoever does the coolest looking moves is the best pro wrestler

>yfw Teddy Hart is the GOAT
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>>1126297
I get it, you never watched him in NXT.
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>>1126293
> this dumbfuck thinks anybody believes him or takes him seriously
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>>1126283

Go back and watch his NXT matches with Owens and Zayn. WWE gives him either 5 minutes to work or puts him in 6 man tag matches. If we're going to accept this age of small, steroid-free wrestlers, you have to keep Neville in there based on talent.
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>>1126293
>no selling every move Nakamura did means hes the bad wrestler
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>>1126311
>Neville
>better than Seth Rollins
>better than Samoa Joe
>better than Aj Styles
>better than Shinsuke fucking Nakamura
le no
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>>1126331
> implying his WWE resume isn't more impressive than all of them

The numbers don't lie m8
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I was just thinking this today. The roster is fucking insane.

Nakamura
Owens
Zayn
Styles
Rollins
Ambrose
Neville
Balor
Joe
Itami
Lesnar
Cesaro
Crews
Gable & Jordan are on their way
LA SOMBRA GETTIN' READY TO BRING THAT HEAT, TOO

They're having this cruiserweight tourney where you KNOW they're going to sign the guys that impress HHH the most. There's a very, very good chance Zach Sabre and Ibushi are brought in this year. We've entered some weird timeline where Cena is a fucking workrate wunderkind, too.

And the weird thing about this awesome roster? Triple fuckin' H is the guy most responsible. If Vince would step back from the booking, this company could be on a legendary run.
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>>1126352
The fuck are you talking about? Rollins was WHC.
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>>1126381
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>>1126381
Ya if they cut the PG bullshit and let someone else book this would be a great roster. Minus ambrose he needs to get cut.
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>>1126385
> kayfabe accomplishments in a discussion of talent

Sit down, ya fuckin' mark.
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>>1126217
>talent
>implying any of those wrestlers can draw money
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>>1126381
Kota Ibushi cameo'd on Takeover so he's practically guaranteed to be signed.

King Cuerno was rumoured for the Cruiserweight Tournament but he's still contracted to LU/AAA
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>>1126397
Not the same guybut what are we supposed to use as metrics then? Obviously holding a belt doesnt necessarily mean your that good see roman. But normally that at least means your a good worker.
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>>1126400
Better than Reigns.
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>Reigns
>Ambrose
>Rollins
>Wyatt
>Kevin Steen who has become Kevin Owens
>Brock Lesnar
>AJ Styles
>Cesaro
>Luke Harper
How are they failing?
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>>1126381
>la sombra
Forgot about him until last night he had a dark match dude is great in the ring and has a good look.
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>>1126408
>muh roman
fuck off
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>>1126408
that isn't saying much
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>>1126397
You said more impressive resume, not better talent. Don't try and change the discussion after the fact you cheeky cunt.
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>>1126407
Quality of work?

>>1126409
Because they're getting booked by an insane old fool who hasn't had a good idea since 1989
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>>1126418
eh 1989 is a bit of a stretch
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>>1126293
You very clearly 100% have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>1126304
>>1126304
>>yfw Teddy Hart is the GOAT
you make a good point, he might be.
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>>1126415
I'm sorry you can't understand context bud.
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>>1126381
>muh based haitch

Kill yourself faggot, that jew made himself champion and is only gonna push himself
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>>1126428
>kicks
>more kicks
>punches
then his good highspots and the flying knees which were good.
I do admit I underestimated his showmanship and his theme was great.
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>>1126440
He was also the first person to do a Butterfly Suplex in a WWE ring for what seems like years, if not decades
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>>1126440
Go back to LU or ROH or whatever, or better yet, just go watch a circus or something since that's what you seem to like best.
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>not liking Swagsuke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLmQecjnT18
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>>1126434
Just use the correct words going forward to avoid more mishaps. Maybe type out your sentence beforehand and leave it for a few minutes before clicking "Post". Come back to your desk and read it over to make sure you're saying exactly what you intended to say. Good luck!
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>>1126456
Why do people keep saying he can speak English well?
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>>1126453
...you know that Nakamura worked ROH pretty regularly over the past couple of years, right?
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>>1126449
>Butterfly Suplex
it was pretty good,
i think seth pulled it out once and one of the divas actually did it a lot i want to say either beth or nattie.
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>>1126462
And?
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>>1126457
You could've chosen to do anything with your time, but you wrote this.

It's OK to admit when you're wrong, pal. This board is anonymous. Nobody's going to care.
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>>1126459
compared to most japs, he has understandable english
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>>1126381
Forgot to add Meltzer has reported they also want Okada, Omega, and the Bucks. It's like they're looking at the most downloaded CAWs to decide their roster, it's fucking so great.

>>1126436
Being made a transitional champion to put over a guy your boss thinks is the next Cena on the biggest show ever doesn't really make him Hogan in WCW, champ.

>Also implying H isn't assembling an all time GOAT roster
>Also implying the dude isn't a HOF level wrestler

Enjoy that salt, senpai.
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>>1126456
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>>1126468
My goal at /asp/ is to bring y'all big, fun, raunchy Rated R shitposts. But, we also go hard core with our wrestling discussions. As fun and wild as this thread is, it's been a real eye opening experience for me to educate you. Respect.
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>>1126466
I'm just sayin', a guy who fit in with ROH in his first match there probably isn't somebody you can use "YOU SHOULD'VE STAYED IN RING OF HONOR" in "defense" of
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>>1126481
>My goal at /asp/ is to bring y'all ... shitposts.

Well you've definitely met that part of your goal.
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>>1126481
>My goal

>being a mark for yourself
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>>1126487
Be real, be kind and be yourself. Set your bar extremely high, surround yourself with quality /wwe/bros, outpost your competition and go move the world.
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>>1126459
still a thick accent but yea like >>1126470
said you can understand it a bit better
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>>1126487
You as well retard
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>midget
>midget
>midget
>fedora
>midget
>midget
>fedora
>fedora
>midget
>midget
>fedora

Predictable NXT babbies.
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>>1126510
> Shinsuke
> midget

Durrr.
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>>1126491
I can't even imagine what it must be like to be as lonely as you obviously are.
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>>1126519
"When you're good at something you'll tell everyone. When you're great, they'll tell you."
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>>1126521
And nobody's gonna tell you anything, but I hope you find what you're looking for.
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>>1126510
>le 6'2 is a midget XDDD
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>>1126217
>Ambrose
>Corbin

fucking no
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>>1126217

With the exception of Joe, they're all passable at best on the mic, and most of them are shit. So no, we are not entering a golden age of talent.

Austin, Rock, Foley, Taker, etc. That was a golden age.

Hogan, Savage, Piper, Heenan, Steamboat, DiBiase. That was THE golden age.
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>>1126591
>Ambrose, Owens
>passable at best on the mic
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>>1126400
>talent = money

Go to bed, Vince.
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>>1126381
>>1126474
>all this talent
>Vince on his way out
>Triple and Paul Heyman start on booking
>rebuild bridges and brings back Jim Cornette
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nakamura will be jobbing to reigns in a few months
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>>1126624
cornette is fucking garbage and out of touch with the world

stop with this meme

heyman said he wont book for wwe again too
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>>1126591
> Hogan, Savage, Piper, Heenan, Steamboat, DiBiase. That was THE golden age.

THUMBS UP I AGREE XDDD
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>>1126627
>King of Make Roman Look Strong Style
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>>1126634
these cruiserweights can cruise or wait, dude
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>>1126629
Cornette was right about Owens and Zayn
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>>1126656
Let's bring back Russo, too.
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>no one talking about pyceb in this thread
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>>1126664
yeah we're only talking about good wrestlers here, friend
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>>1126217

That talent doesn't matter if the creative is shit.
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>>1126682
creative has been shit for a long, long time
if you're still watching it can't be that big a counterpoint
or you're just too retarded to stop watching something you're not into
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>>1126381
a heel stable of Roode, The Revival and Corbin or some other big guy would be money.
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>>1126217
>not mentioning the future of the tag team division

shiggy diggy

RAW on Monday going to explode when the theme hits
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>>1126634
Hogan matches sucked 99 per cent of the time

Savage was entertaining for comedy relief but was also meme as fuck. His matches were mostly boring muh double axe handle after muh double axe handle. Literal voice babby that was a great character but also one of the most overrated guys of all time

Piper was based, his matches tended to be a bit crap after 5 minutes though. Just punches and le airplane spin

Heenan was a god before he tarnished his career forever with that shitty wcw run. Wasnt as enjoyable without monsoon

Steamboat was bland in every single compartment, very athletic but very vanilla

DiBiase was a great heel but got boring quickly, like within 2 minutes of the bell ringing
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>>1126690

I watch it because I want it to get better. The matches are fun, but you realize that it's the same fight every week with no stakes. They had Dolph Ziggler face Kevin Owens 4 weeks in a row.
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>>1126221
>>1126223
Whats the deal with Corbin? I dot watch NXT too match, only Take Overs and some random episode. I watch Corbin and I actually like his character, his ring skills are not the best but they are not bad, I like his finisher and that...

But only people who likes Corbin here are the ssame people who likes Ryback or support Reigns. Why?
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>>1126745
he's far from being ready however NXT is a developmental system, people who dislike him are clueless.
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>>1126745
Corbin is big but has been booked boring for a long while, and also wasn't that great. He's improved, but isn't amazing or an "indie darling," so people shit on him because he's a developmental talent instead of someone with a decade of experience and ready to go.
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>>1126699

Enzo and Xavier are gonna have fun if they are allowed to go outside their usual lines.
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>>1126754
>if they are allowed to go outside their usual lines.

ha ha, oh you
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>>1126745
He's basically Reigns but if Vince had let go of his pride and turned the guy heel.

The problem with Corbin is he's been in NXT for years and has yet to really get that much better. He's not terrible, he serves his purpose as an upper mid card heel really well. He's fun to boo, he's just not going to be putting on any clinics in the ring or captivating anyone with his promos. But not everyone can.
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>>1126754
yeah that will be the day
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>>1126759
>>1126764

That's why I wrote "if".
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why did they promote that drifter guy's match with crew for takeover for weeks and then not even include it on the aired card
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>>1126763
He's gotten better in ring he's lost a ton of weight and moves better. he's improving at the rate you would think somebody who is new to this would.
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>>1126773
Yeah Bull Dempsey's got a bright future in NXT.
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>>1126773

You can honestly look at him and tell me that you see him as a champion one day? Zero charisma, a look that doesn't fit his gimmick, and mediocre ring skills with the occasional shitty banter with the crowd. He looks like he always wants to start crying.
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>>1126787
Not a champion no but he's slowly getting better he's really athletic and has upside

I was joking last night when Kane decides to hang it up he could be new Kane. Because you're right his look is terrible he needs to not be shirtless ever and he needs to shave his head that baldspot is hilariously obvious even watching on my shitty tablet. Put him in a costume of some kind
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>>1126217
golden age of talent but dark ages of creative
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>>1126293
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>>1126921
>i cant handle people telling me the hivemind is retarded
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You can tell Nakamura is impressive because he can have that haircut and 4chan won't turn on him.
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>>1126964
i called him a fuccboi last night but i think his gimmick is being the ultimate fuccboi so it didn't work
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>>1126973
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>>1126998
nice tumblr gif +1
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Is that guy from the Revival supposed to look like Arn Anderson?
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>>1126973
Stop.living paycheck to paycheck faggot
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>>1126745
Corbin is pretty fucking based in all honesty. Last night showed that he's definitely learning from NXT and managing to better his character and in-ring skills.

I'm a pretty big Ryback fan, but I'll safely admit Corbin is everything Ryback should have been. Heel Ryback is just plain terrible, and he's not even THAT much better as a face. When Regins is concerned, Corbin is definitely better at being "that big guy who hits people with big power moves and what-not". The fact that Corbin actually managed to get a 50/50 chant going in a super-smark crowd against Austin fucking Aries, even after doing some pretty good shit-talking to them, is just beyond me. Glad to see he's hopefully going places. Hope they don't fuck up/rush his call-up.
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>>1127035

Steroid-free Perry Saturn?
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>>1126629
Cornette is just cranky and since all of his examples of correct booking are 80s and 90s stuff, so babbies who have no real sense of history don't understand it. he's not saying present it like JCP did, he just advocates for less comedy and more logic based writing.

I think it's kinda retarded to refer to the guy who developed Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Randy Orton, etc as out of touch garbage, personally.
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>>1126624
I like cornette on a bunch of issues but he seems like too much of a blowhard and still a bit out of touch, I just don't think him and wwe mesh well
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>>1127066
>Corbin is pretty fucking based in all honesty
>I'm a pretty big Ryback fan
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>>1128209
dude ryback is the greatest thing of our generation
he needs a rabbit gimmick though
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>>1128178

See whenever I listen to him discuss WWE I I respect that he has a great 70s/80s wrestling mind but that he just seems out of touch with what modern audiences want.

Then again, I remember he's also the guy who developed Lesnar, Cena, Batista, and Orton so I don't really know what to think of him.
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>>1128209
Damn, she used to be cute.
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>>1126400
>Implying individuals draw money and not the brand
If cena quit WWE and worked For JCW, JCW wouldn't start making a lot of money, their gate would be the same and so would WWEs.

Hogan already proved this.
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>>1128423
>Batista

Developing means forcing him in your wife's fucking terrible stable?

Nothing about the Batista from Evolution and beyond had anything to do with OVW. He has even said so.
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>>1126217
An absolute golden age of talent.

Too bad the creative team is a bunch of icepick lobotomy patients who can't even be arsed to get some build up going for wrestle fucking mania.

Guarantee everyone on this list will get fed to Reigns.
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>>1126217
Almost all of them have been around for at least 10 years m8. Been living under a rock?
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>>1126591
Ah yes, that Ricky Steamboat was renowned for his mic skills
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>>1126700
>Savage was entertaining for comedy relief but was also meme as fuck. His matches were mostly boring muh double axe handle after muh double axe handle.
>Steamboat was bland in every single compartment, very athletic but very vanilla
>DiBiase was a great heel but got boring quickly, like within 2 minutes of the bell ringing

The absolute fucking state of your putrid opinions
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>>1126751
>He's improved, but isn't amazing or an "indie darling," so people shit on him because he's a developmental talent instead of someone with a decade of experience and ready to go.

You're being SAWFT
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We're in a Golden Age of talent, yes, but a Stone Age of booking.
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>>1126787
He didn't look at-all out-of-place in the #1 Contenders' Match with Zayn & Joe
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>>1130565
It is all true and you know it
t. someone who actually grew up in that period
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>>1127035
Based Scott Dawson actually wrestled as an Anderson on the indies
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>>1127101
Your most recent example of his successes are nearly 15 years old. How is that not out-of-touch?

He couldn't even fucking book ROH properly in 2011
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>>1130575
It isn't and you should know better.

> Savage
> boring
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>>1130582
Not that guy but your logic is basically "fuk dat old fag only tweens like me watch wrestling" so nobody's going to listen to you lol
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>>1130585
His matches had a tendency to it yes.
His character work was top notch and he kept you engaged with his voice and erratic behavour, but muh axe handles got shit fast
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>>1128423
What really got me about him was when he went ape shit over Joey Ryan's dick spot and even talked shit about colt cabana for his comedic style. Like dude, it's funny, pull the stuck out of your ass, it dosent have to be 100% serious all the time
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>>1130596
> Randy "Five-Star Match" Savage

You're dumb-as-fuck lad
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>>1130609
The Bushwhackers had a 5 star math faggot and Ric 'same shitty match and same shitty promo for 60 years' Flair had multiple
It means literally fuck all
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>>1130647
> he's this mad over his dumb opinions being mocked
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>>1130671
> le mad meme when he has nothing else to say
Embarrassing m8. Confirmed underager that fell for the macho man meme
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