>post gyms or dojos here
>/asp/ tells you if they're bullshit
>>1067491
Beyond grappling
Its bjj and judo
also Gym Victus (muay thai)
>>1067521
No its fine I didn't want a reply anyway.
>>1067558
Im taking an online Karate Course
If i can train well enough i might get green belt by 4 weeks
My sensei says my form looks really good on the skype call
>>1067491
> its another McDojo thread
>>1067558
Nah I train with the guy but he offers online courses for some extra cash. I mainly do bjj with him but i took up judo after I realized I need to get people to the ground before any of the bjj would work.
>>1067563
not samefagging
>>1067563
Kek I (not him) do this sometimes and nothing makes me laugh harder.
>>1067570
Where do you train OP? Will investigate
>>1067574
Also I dont do online training that would be retarded
>>1067576
no it isn't, because brazilian jiu jitsu is the ultimate most modern and unbeatable martial art and you can learn it by taking online courses
>>1067580
I could be wrong man but I dont think it works nearly as well as training with the person. What are you training in?
>>1067491
Kai Thai Academy
kaithaiacademy.com
I've heard good things about this place, but every instinct in me is screaming at how shady everything is. They offer catch wrestling, which is usually a sign of shady shit when it's no-gi BJJ at best, but I checked and they're an official snake pit usa affiliate. They also offer sambo, but I can't find any information about if it's legit or not. The biggest red flag for me, though, is the lack of a price listing on their website. I called to ask about it and the guy that answered the phone said that they have a "unique payment system" but was vague about how it was unique in any way and instead said that it as $100/month for unlimited classes. Another thing is that I can't find any information on most of the coaches here. Overall, the place seems too good to be true.
>>1068163
My coach on Snake Pit USA (he is one of their "coaches"):
>They are nice guys but they don't really have anybody very good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgoJ9zcDYGQ
run
Asked about this one awhile ago, thought about joining but there were a few red flags. What do you guys think?
http://universaljj.com/
>>1068207
Wow, I wasn't expecting something so relevant so quickly
http://www.catalystmma.com/
>Call us today to try a class for FREE
The YouTube video on their page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=viyo7lo8Wc8
Gracie Jiu Jitsu
http://leesmartialarts.org/
The Jitsu Foundation UK
>>1071409
I mean, I'm not finding anything overtly bad right now, but I'm not finding anything good either. As far as I can tell they've never had anyone actually fight out of their gym, which makes it difficult to figure out how well they can teach. I'd say go for the free class and see if things seem right
>>1071409
looks pretty amateur hour to me
source: niggas is all flat footed
that's bad kickboxing. there is no legitimate school of thought in kickboxing that says you should be flat footed
further source: I came out of bellmore kickboxing which has in fact produced multiple professional fighters, a few of which are currently in UFC
>>1071525
>As far as I can tell they've never had anyone actually fight out of their gym
They claim that their "professional and amateur fighters compete on some of the biggest stages in the Northwest" and they go on to say that they also compete on "many other venues around the United States of America."
>>1071541
>there is no legitimate school of thought in kickboxing that says you should be flat footed
You do know that this is an MMA gym, right?
having trouble deciding which club to join. Which one seems more legit, /asp/?
http://shudokanjudo.com.au/
http://www.judoaustralia.com.au/caulfield.html
>>1068591
https://youtu.be/mkmsi5aFSvc
>>1068598
Guy is a legitimate black belt under Pedro sauer. It's all good there
http://www.warriorway.com/
A-Am I good here?
>>1071715
that's still being flat footed
both feet, on the toes at all times, there is rarely ever an appropriate time to have your whole foot on the ground
maybe only if you want to really drive a font kick in so you can plant more firmly
>>1071826
joe rogan hyping them up pretty much proves they are shit
tiger schulmans gives you a black belt inside of 2 years
they give black belts to 8 year olds
they are a full blown mcdojo in every sense of the word, you have to buy their gear, you sign a long term contract, and you pay fees your entire time you are there.
the little guy in there had it right, when you are that big you are bound to have superstars. I'm not impressed by them putting out 1 notable fighter out of the literally thousands maybe even tens of thousands of people who have trained there over the last 25 years.
if you live in the NY/NJ area, tiger schulmans is a laughing stock, if you walk into any gym and say that's where you trained you will literally be laughed off the mat
>>1072195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpl_7w8-jTE
>>1072210
>>1071846
Pedro's very good. My coach was his first black belt. If Pedro gives someone a black belt, they are legit.
http://www.cobjj.com/home.html
or
http://www.madtigerbjj.com/
can't decide which one
>>1071901
>http://www.warriorway.com/
>BJJ-centric
>Traditional Muay Thai
Their methods might be outdated, but it's better than nothing.
>our priority is to create a safe learning environment
>large kid's class
>as a general rule, white belts can be expected to advance after 30 classes
>can't pay monthly, need contract
>self defense
You should definitely check it out before committing.
I don't know what's with gyms not telling people how much their programs cost.
Gyms and dojos should have YouTube videos of what typical classes are like throughout a week.
Just having these two things could save a lot of people from going through a lot of bullshit.
>>1083755
My gym has a very active Facebook and Twitter, a blog where the coaches post interviews or articles about conditioning, technique, nutrition, or philosophy, and a youtube channel where they post tips on how to get better at BJJ, examples of the class structure, techniques, and they even made a video giving people a virtual tour of the academy. They even have a website where they post everything I just mentioned, as well as other things like recordings of fights or tournaments. It still astounds me sometimes how active they are online.
>>1067491
>trusting /asp/
top
>>1084438
Sounds like you're living the dream.
>>1084441
there are some quality posters that know what they're talking about when it comes to martial art, so yeah trusting /asp is actually good.
>>1087352
>so yeah trusting /asp is actually good.
Generally, no.
Sometimes, yes.
>>1071482
Does their MMA program look good to you guys?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AeEQH8I2Gm8
>>1071482
>>1087363
Looks a bit shady. There's a lot of McDojo-ish practices going on and I can't find any amateur or professional records for the "former professional mma fighter" coaches. Also, they named themselves after Bruce Lee even though no one there has lineage relating to him. I'd suggest a pass unless it's literally the only martial arts place nearby.
>>1088555
>Also, they named themselves after Bruce Lee
That's kind of unclear.
They have a Bruce Lee quote in their website, and a picture of Bruce Lee on their building, but it looks like the head coach's name is Tae Lee.
Want to start BJJ, both these places are 5-10 minutes from me. Halp.
http://advantagebjj.com/about/instructors/
http://gbpearland.com/about-us/team-members-2/
>>1088745
Seems like they're trying to intentionally misdirect people that don't pay close enough attention.
>>1090260
The sign at eye level right next to the door is kind of big.
>>1088770
If I were you I'd go with Gracie Barra in Pearland. Advatage doesn't have any black belt instructors, just a couple of brown belts and purple belts. It'd be fine if there weren't any gyms with black belt instructors, but the GB gym has a 5th degree and a 3rd degree blackbelt, and they can probably teach you all sorts of little things that come with experience.
>>1092948
Thanks for the feedback! I had to ask because GB seems to get mixed reviews, but these instructors seem legit. Not a fan of the uniform policy, but I guess it's not a deal breaker.
>>1095907
Worst comes to worst, you could ask around and see if you could sit in on some lessons. Maybe seeing how things are taught with your own eyes would help you make an informed decision more than asking anonymous posters on 4chan.
>>1088555
>I'd suggest a pass unless it's literally the only martial arts place nearby.
It's the only place around that offers MMA.
There's a Shotokan Karate place in my area.
Why is Shotokan Karate a meme art, again?
>>1095990
That picture should tell you all you need to know.
>>1096022
What I need to know isn't enough for me. I like details.
>>1098847
Well, for starters that guy is blocking a kick that would have missed him by a mile.
>>1099036
Look at his stance. In that situation, it looks like the guy on the left leaned back to evade the head kick, and also brought his arm up to block as a second measure, in case his evasion didn't work.
http://kozoneusa.com/
Thoughts? Would really like to try out boxing.
http://saitojudo.com/
How am I doing bros?
>>1099255
It's legit.
http://www.aftataekwondo.com.au go here twice a week to supplement kickboxing where i go 3x a week
>>1099050
He would have expended less energy just getting out of the way and that forearm block is completely useless in literally every possible situation.
>>1099386
>TKD
lmaoing at your life
>>1099462
TKD is great as a supplemental art, which is what he said he's doing.
Not quite the same, but is barefoot running bullshit?
>>1099484
Yes
The thousands of years humans did that were all just an ironic meme
>>1099503
I'm asking whether there's truth to the whole "running shoes are bad and it's healthier to run barefoot" thing or not, especially given that many people today are running on concrete, not grass, dirt, and sand.
>>1099508
you know those toe shoes people wear for running because its so much more natural? they aren't even designed to be running shoes, they are made for boating so you can get better traction on a wet deck
running isn't good for you period, its bad for the knees and an all around shit exercise. ride a bike
>>1099542
T. Hamplanet
Running is only bad for you if you're a fat fuck
If you're not 210+ you're fine
>>1099561
running is bad for everyone, it fucks your shit up with shin splints and arthritic knees no matter the size you are, your body isn't built to run on concrete
it's barely designed to run at all, Humans are walkers, not runners, we are built for traveling very long distances very slowly, our species is the definition of slow and steady
>>1099581
>t.hamplanet who will die at 30 because his cardiovascular health is so shit
>>1099596
not sure what you're going for here, but humies aren't made for running
I guarantee you can't sprint full speed for 400 meters, and even if you could and you were a world class runner it would still take you more than 40 seconds to do it. Face it. that shit is abysmal
>>1099611
>running less than half of 1k makes you a world class athlete
How fat are you, seriously?
>>1099581
>our species is the definition of slow and steady
This.
When we hunted, we just jogged while the animal sprinted and eventually tired itself out.
We sweat, nigga.
>>1099649
you know what sprint means? bet you can't do it, really bet you can't. I don't mean fast jog, I mean full blown maximum speed
>>1099703
You're seriously autistic, you know that?
I wonder why so many autists are also hamplanets
>>1099668
Yeah, but we jog long-ass distances. Which is generally the kind of running we're talking about when we discuss barefoot running as a phenomenon.
>>1099581
maybe you should actually learn to pick up your legs instead of hampering along. Hell most people don't even walk properly. So many have lazy wonders, a dominant leg and always a heel heavy gait. Shoes fuck up the natural stride.
>>1099758
fuck your shit, I'm a runner and I'm telling you running is shit and you shouldn't do it. Problem is you clearly don't run enough otherwise you would realize how high impact and shitty it is on your body.
>>1099783
I can run just fine, I have/had a sub 12 second hundred meter, ran at the state level when I was still training except I'm white so that's about as far as it went
Elite Training Center
http://www.calgarymartialarts.com/
What concerns me the most is this:
>http://www.calgarymartialarts.com/socialsite/instructors
> Head BJJ instructor
> Purple belt
>>1099791
I'm sure you are hamplanet
>>1099800
the way it works is in bjj you can promote up to the belt below yours, so a purple can promote you to blue but can't promote you to purple until they are at least brown
nothing wrong with learning your basics from a purple though
Here's a bump fo the futre
>>1099051
>Thoughts?
Their pricing isn't that bad.
Their head instructor is a manlet, and he doesn't do MMA, but the 5'11 guy does MMA.
After a quick browse, I didn't see anything that could indicate their martial arts programs are good or bad, you should go over there for a free trail or something, and ask questions about how they train.
Another one
http://www.nwtaichi.com/home.html
PROS:
>CMA which I am seriously lacking skillz in
>Teacher is recognized by grandmasters in China
>MA hall of fame
>ba gua which seems fun
>Fits my NEET schedule
>Near the community college I'm going to go to
RED FLAGS/ cons
>CMA which I am seriously lacking skillz in because I strongly believe KMA is far superior
>No prices on website or in brochure (went there today but didn't actually walk in on a class)
>The word "energy" is all over the place
>Qi Gong >2016 >paying a man to teach you how to breathe
>Push Hands sounds beyond gay and I already know Wing Chun which is probably better
>>1099484
Late to this but I'll give you a quick run down.
If you run often, you are bound to get an injury at some point, however, that shouldn't put you off. Barefoot running is good, but in modern times where the streets are disgusting and full of broken glass and stuff, you should instead invest in some minimal running shoes.
A high heel might be tempting to use because at first it's more comfortable and you don't slam into the ground so much, but it promotes bad running form where you heel strike, if you want to get into minimal/barefoot running, you should think about striking mid-foot and rolling through the toes, it's preferable to move your legs faster in smaller steps than it is to run with bigger strides.
Hope that helps you, anon!
>>1100164
Helps a lot, thanks! I'll look into minimalist running shoes. Any brands you know to be good/reliable?
>>1100062
Breath control is important
CMA'S take it a bit too far buy it's not like it'll hurt
my karate teacher has now made it mandatory that I drink apple cider vinegar and raw unfiltered honey out of a glass bottle to hydrate during class
>>1100755
If he's Asian you're good
>>1100784
I guess Indian counts as asian
My tummy kinda hurts though
What about this place? I'd love to take BJJ and either Boxing or MT there if it's good:
http://corelouisville.com/programs/brazilian-jiu-jitsu/
http://corelouisville.com/programs/boxing/
http://corelouisville.com/programs/muay-thai/
>>1102371
>http://corelouisville.com/programs/brazilian-jiu-jitsu/
Yes Helio Soneca is the real deal.
>>1099611
Homo sapiens is the original persistence hunter. A well trained human can beat a horse in a 100 mile race.
The Savate Gym (I'm french) I train in :
>cheap
>they don't give a shit about ranks, just get good
>lots of work on mechanics and sparring
>always dripping wet of sweat after a course
>competitors are kicking ass at every tournament they go
>coaches all have a good record and you can see they are respected figures of the regional scene when you go watch competitions with them
>you don't compete until the head coach tells you you're good enough to compete
>you get kicked out of the club if you're a retard
>>1102448
Would you say that's a good sign for the other two arts as well? Learning MT would be cool as shit.
>>1102449
by going slow and steady, they aren't going to win that match up if they are running at a clip of sub 6-7 minutes per mile the way people do when they exercise. that's the whole point
humans aren't runners, it's about efficiency over long distance. If you want to beat the horse the race will be mostly walking with the occasional brisk trot
>>1102466
Sorry don't know much about thai boxing but it does seem like it could be legit.
The place with mma classes closest to me is a family karate place that teaches TKD. The instructor also offers BJJ classes, but he's only a blue belt. The mma classes are only once a week. It's less than a 10 minute drive from my house, and it's only $80/month. The next closest place is a BJJ and MT academy 45 minutes away, and it costs $120/month. Should I go to the cheap, nearby one and then switch after a while, should I stay with it, or should I go for the better, more expensive instruction right away?
>>1100755
But...why?
http://bvfit.com/
I know they're not a bullshit gym, I just want general opinions and to see if anyone knows the place. I know a guy who trained here and he's pretty fucking beastly, been having good success in BJJ and open grappling tournaments.
>>1103740
links?
WWE Performance Center
>>1103780
because it is alkaline and rich in probiotics to help hydrate, reduce inflammation, and contribute to overall good circulation and digestive health
that's what he says anyway
>>1103945
Or you could just drink water like a normal person.
Anyone good gyms in Toronto?
https://sites.google.com/site/bostonjudo/home
>>1099561
>>1099596
>>1099649
>>1099758
>>1099807
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2011/02/run-and-youll-only-die-tired-logic.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2011/02/run-and-youll-only-die-tired-evidence.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2011/03/run-and-youll-only-die-tired-evidence.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2011/03/run-and-youll-only-die-tired-evidence_23.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2011/04/run-and-youll-only-die-tired-science.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2012/12/run-and-youll-only-die-tired-logic-part.html
>>1105356
>2016
>tripod
>>1067541
>no its fine I don't want a reply anyway.
>12 minutes after original post
Spot the newfag.
As long as they teach you BJJ and Judo with no MMA asspulls (restricting all the techniques they teach you to conform to a ruleset, like everyones favourite new age combat sport, as opposed to martial arts where they teach you every technique as long and the practice (practice as in to learn the skills) of those techniques among your classmates is ethical and undamaged, but still dangerous and effective in practise (practise as in technical application in combat).
If they aren't holding back your knowledge, BJJ + Judo is gold, and all the best of every realm of grappling.
as for gym victus (muay thai) there is an outstanding majority of "muay thai" 'schools' that claim muay thai, whom are actually just would be kickboxers or krav maga and karate (read Zen Do Kai) instructors making a quick buck of the increase in popularity of a similar foreign sport.
So basically, asked them if they trained in Thailand, or if they instruct any legitimate competitive fighters and that's how you get your answer for that one.
http://kingsmma.com/
They have a couple UFC champs right now, so they must be doing something right. Just wondering if this would be a good place to get the fundamentals or if I should just save money and get that elsewhere.
>>1100270
Vivobarefoot specialise but they're not cheap, inov8 also do some good minimal shoes, but a pair of Nike Free are usually the easiest to find and can be found on special offer half the time. I've never used them myself, but friends have and loved them.
>>1067580
>>1067580
ONLINE TRAINING
>take master chong's online training course, for only 99.99!
>guaranteed black belt in just SIX months
>join our exclusive black belt club
>we will teach you super deadly skills
>AND realistic self defence
>master chong traces his lineage back to the Wing Wong temple, a heritage over 6 MILLION YEARS OLD
mfw online training
>>1067580
ONLINE TRAININGG
have you got your camo belt yet?
>muh online training
>muh FORM is gud
>sensei says so
>20th Dan Rainbow Belt Sensei
online training
>>1071482
why does the kid instructor called josh look like he has tits???
y tho?
>>1102456
Mind telling me where you train? Also French and interested in learning Savate eventually.
>>1112515
It is in fact possible to learn a martial art and effectively apply it without a teacher and or sparring.
A common myth is that one is unable to perceive the flaws on one's movements when mimicking the movements of a martial art, and that a teacher is required to detect these flaws in form and aid in correcting them.
Detecting the flaws in one's form can easily be done with the utilization of attention to detail and a mirror.
It would take some very severe cognitive impairments and or lack of effort to be unable to do this, given that adiquate information is provided.
Another common myth is that muscle memory is required to apply martial arts, and that one would be unable to participate in combat without getting a gluteus maximus kicking.
One reason people believe this myth is because of how much more quickly humans tend to react to a stimuli with muscle memory rather than conscious reaction time. They fail to understand that this in no way means that conscious reaction cannot be utilized. With higher aptitude for reaction time and or training, one who may have never engaged in hand to hand combat will be able to perform as well if not better than one who has trained muscle memory for hand to hand combat, not to mention how muscle memory can be used in combat if trained with proper knowledge and understanding beforehand.
Experience is only as creditable as how it's interpreted.
Not saying that learning with a teacher isn't almost always more efficient.
>>1112515
If you're in the top 1st percentile of intelligence, are educated in scientific practices, and have a very detailed and reliable source of martial arts information, you could try it out, document the process, and communicate your results.
Xtreme Fitness & Performance
JG MMA
Elite Coalition CF
Team G-Force
Vision MMA
Eastgate - Martial Arts
Club MMA
Cincinnati Martial Arts Club
Reed Academy of Mixed Martial Arts
Drive MMA
Fusion MMA Cincinnati
SACAN Muay Thai
Cincy BJJ
Son of Siam Martial Arts
Jorge Gurgel MMA Academy
Spears Amateur Boxing & Kickboxing
513 as fuck. Sorry for long list.
>>1106026
He's got gyno, also known as bitchtits
>>1105929
Training with champions and seeing firsthand what it takes to reach the top is important if you want to be a champion yourself. If you don't want to be a professional fighter you should skip it.
