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Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.
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-tank size
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>FUCKING GOOGLE-
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>MicrogeoFAGus
>fish looks shiny and rainbowy
my sides
Anyone here work in or do service for aquariums or fisheries?
>3 threads again
Oh boy!
>>2096752
Surprisingly none of them have people bitching about the thumbnail or title.
>RCS have started dying again for no reason
>>2096746
I just recently started working at my LFS, they do strictly saltwater and coral. They literally can't even keep a betta alive... It's quite funny. Anyways, I'm scheduled to dive a 5,000gal shark tank at the end of May for maintenance. It has 2 3foot black tip sharks, 3 large coral banded sharks, and a very large bat Ray. I'm nervous about the bat ray
What happens if you mix a leopard zebrafish and a pink zebrafish
>>2096797
peppered zebrafish
>>2096801
what, any pics?
>>2096795
Nice that's awsome and kinda sad they are incompetent like that, are you scuba certfied? Also don't worry about the animals they will be freaked out by you then the otherway around. Sharks tend not to be dicks in the same way triggers or even clowns that will strafe and nip you.
>>2096795
Wanted to also mention I dive a 10k reef tank too. Im ordering a new BCD and full faced mask to better do my job at cleaning it.
If I may ask how much are they paying you? Make sure you are getting the right equipment.
>>2096783
are you using Excel?
that shit killed ALL of my shrimp
>>2096815
Their paying me 10 an hour, under the table. It's not much, but I really love this store and it's going to be a lot of fun working with them. And it's not that they are incompetent, they have all breed clownfish at some point and all actively keep at least a frag tank. I suspect their betta tank is tainted by the previous owner, who dropped it off. Then other customers dropped off their unwanted Berta's.
What's is this reading?
Just did this last night. Not great, but it's better than the giant algae soup it was before.
Any tips on getting my grass to carpet or ideas on hiding the filter/heater?
>>2096842
That's honestly way to low, like the bare minimum servicetech goes is like $15, hell I ask for $65 on my doing own jobs.
If your doing any kind of diving you should be asking for at least $23.
Then again it sounds like your trying to help a friend so disregard all what I said in that case.
>never seen nitrites drop in whole cycle
>within 24 hours
it's fuggin habdening
Tfw your Co2 valve breaks and you can't do shit but wait two weeks for a replacement.
Some sort of film has built up on the surface of my tank, any ideas on what it could be? I'm doing a 90% water change soon so I'm not too worried.
>>2096858
Yea, I know these people have trouble payin the bills from time to time, and this store is their only livelihood. And even with that stress, they manage to be one of the best stores in the area. Unfortunately, even being the best store doesn't mean your making money in a market saturated with reef stores. I really don't want them to break the bank just to pay for me. I practically worked at the store, even back when I was still a customer. I would bag fish for customers and everything, spending 4 hours at a time there. The place has a great atmosphere
>>2096965
Just biofilm. Naturally given off by plants, algae, and even fish in your tank. Increase surface agitation or equip a surface skimming filter and it'll go away, if it bothers you. Otherwise it doesn't really hurt.
Why won't my water look clear? I've got an aqueon filter and everything but my tank still looks cloudy after a week.
>work at Petco
>near closing, go to check on fish
>to nearby co-worker "uh hey, I think this hermit crab is eating this star fish"
>she starts flipping out "GO GET THE MANAGER OMG"
>casually scoop the hermit crab out and into a different tank
it was pretty funny,
how much of that starfish would have been eaten overnight if I didnt catch that?
>>2097019
probably bacteria in the water.
this resolves itself in time with a few water changes and some balance in the tank. Usually clears up by the time the thing has cycled (4-6 weeks).
>>2096855
>Any tips on getting my grass to carpet
DIY Co2
>ideas on hiding the filter/heater?
Hardscape, micro sword, stem plants. The sponge filter kills the whole iwagumi thing anyway so put some background plants in that bitch. H. Corymbosa grows like a fucking weed and gets bushy, or you could bunch a bunch of rotala or najas in front of them.
Also fill your tank up all the way.
>>2097019
I recommend taking your tank off the ceiling, which may be disturbing your substrate.
>>2097034
I wouldn't be talking shit if that Technicolor Homosexual Dream of a tank was mine, kiddo.
>>2096855
>any tips...?
Yea, don't be that faggot who thinks their 1 week old tank is supposed to be a balanced ecosystem?
>>2097036
Jesus H. Macy I have a 10k saltwater tank I have to dive in and I know literally everything about fish
>>2097034
>this mad
>>2097024
How are the employs and customers at your petco?
>>2097068
its a pretty small store, all like 6 of my co-workers are pretty aight people
especially our aquatics manager, she will outright refuse to sell to people if she thinks they won't take care of it
and our former inventory manager knows a hell of a lot about fish tanks
my closing manager tonight even went through and misted all the herp tanks that needed and stopped to help one of our leos with some stuck shed.
I haven't had any super awful customers, crotchety old people are about as bad as it gets
and the tard who let his 4 year old daughter hold their pits leash
Looks like this thread that was made hours after mine is staying. Eat shit. Use the search feature next time piece of shit.
>>2097074
It's not "your" fucking thread.
it's our thread. all of ours.
it's no insult to you personally if someone makes a mistake and overlooks "your" thread.
it's not about you.
ever.
>>2097074
you also didnt link yours in the old thread, you humongous faggot
>>2097078
nailed it
>>2096783
Probably Ammonia spike, Frog-kun.
>get new baby kuhli loach to join my swarm
>new loach is super nervous, less than half the size of the others
>don't see it for a week
>finally ventures out, I get all excited
>slowly creeps over to join the swarm on the algae tablet
>rainbow shark gets curious, touches baby loach with his nose
>loach flips the fuck out and I haven't seen it since
I just want the cute baby to eat and hang with the swarm. That's all. Patience is difficult.
>>2097036
BURN
>>2097068
Cheers, I'm thinking of getting a job at my local equivalent of a petco. I shop for most of my stuff there and know the aquarium staff reasonably well. Any recommendations in preparation and what the job is actually like?
>>2096797
The leopards have the recessive gene and the zebras the dominant. I bred blue leopard danios with golden danios and got nothing but plain normal zebrafish.
Hundreds of them.
Can anyone answer me this? I'm looking to get an algae eater for my Burma/Thailand themed tank, and I've come across panda garras as the best option, unfortunately, I own a rainbow shark. I've heard some say garras are too closely related to rainbow sharks, so they will get attacked, and I've heard others say that they're 100% fine together. But does anyone here have an answer? Does anyone here keep garras with any member of the Epalzeorhynchos genus?
>>2097034
Is it that deep tho
It was just an light jab, geez. Must we always be at each others throats nowadays
>>2097206
How easy are danios to breed? Will fry survive in a community aquarium, or will they need a breeding tank for any offspring to survive?
>>2097226
Fry of any species are tough to keep alive in a community aquarium, but it all depends on what's in the community. In general you want to have a separate breeding tank.
>>2097036
wew lad
>>2097024
Do any of you guys have any previous knowledge about saltwater or freshwater tanks before you are assigned to them? Do they encourage you to learn about what you sell a whole ton?
>>2097216
Garras are EXTREMELY social and will swim up to everything that moves, so it really depends whether the rainbow shark strikes back or not.
Also, get one than 1 Garra, as they can fuck around with each other and let other fish be.
>>2097216
Same anon with the 5 red tails.
The panda garra is chillin with them.
Do assassin snails eat shrimp?
I've heard mixed things.
I have over 30 Assassin snails in my community tank and I'm thinking of moving them over to my shrimp tank for algae and corpse control.
>>2097226
Danios will eat 100% of their offspring in an aquarium every time.
They may very well be breeding every day in your tank without you even noticing.
All I did was feed them live food for a few weeks and then moved a few to a 10 gallon with a bunch of Java moss for a few days before catching them and putting them back.
They're probably one of the easiest fish to breed besides mollies etc. the Java moss really helps the fry survive the first several days but you can breed them in an empty tank (which that tank now is).
i have one 10 gallon, three 20 gallons, and one 50 gallon tank, ( some ma be terrariums but hey all hold water well ) what should i do with all of them im a cheap fuck, so native fishes, so i dont have to pay for fishes etc give me ideas please
>>2097292
Brine shrimp are pretty cheap. If you feed them cummies they'll become sea men
Just re-planted my tank last week. I still have some shrimp that hatched a few months ago but they're the apparent wild transparent/striped ones. Is it worth just buying some new red cherrys or not?
>>2097301
Another trip oh boy
>>2096655
The thread that was made before this one because some fsggots can't use search function. Go to that thread. Jesus Christ you fucks are retarded.
What can i plant in my 37 gallon tall tank with a 24 inch 17 watt floromax incandessent bulb?
>>2097311
We're aware, thank you. The other thread has seven replies, three of which are bumps. This thread is more successful.
Let's not go rabid over threads again, it would be stupid if we have to have mods step in like last time.
>>2097034
Holy shit man stop sperging like a fucking retard.
>>2097311
You made your thread over three hours before this thread, and even this thread was made before the bump limit of the original thread.
You were off by a fucking mile.
Also, stop being autist and be fine that there is an active thread.
>>2097292
Where do you live? I would suggest checking out NANFA's site for information about keeping and collecting native fish if you live in the United States.
Why is it so hard to take a pictures of aquariums?
My aquarium never looks in pictures what it looks like in real life.
>When you completely JUST your tank
Just threw out 3 times as much Java Fern than I started with.
What is the biggest regret in your tank or most pointless thing?
Mine is fucking these things.
The only time I see them is when I rescape and that's only for a second before they dart away. Utterly pointless creatures.
>>2097350
I think it's because in real life the tank is much larger than it is in a picture, so all the little details and individual views that we enjoy are kinda crammed together into one pile of tank in the picture.
I like to try for shots of individual fish or small parts of the tank that are interesting to look at.
video is good too since a lot of what we like about our tanks is the movement.
I've been doing aquariums over a year now and I've still not managed to grow moss correctly.
>>2097429
>The other thread was made FIRST at 300 mark
>doesn't know the bump limit on /an/
>doesn't know how to link a thread
>bitches when other people do it right
aren't you banned yet?
>>2097226
I see them spawn every morning and fuck they go nuts after
Bamboo shrimp practically getting blown away by the current.
>>2097435
Are you using co2?
>>2097466
No it's a shrimp tank
>>2097414
All I want is my cory cats. Fuck everything else at this point.
Does my betta fish appreciate a window view?
>>2097285
I've got 5 of them in my 60gal and 5 amano shrimp and they don't seem to bother each other.
>>2097478
Window = sun
Sun = algae
>rinse new rotala
>small dark stick organisms swimming around the bucket
Not worms for sure. They just kind of zip around.
Are these just harmless copepods?
>>2097444
It was linked. Are you fucking retarded?
>>2097444
This thread was made before the limit
>>2096655
>>2096655
>>2096655
>>2096655
Thread made before this one go there and let this one die.
>>2097470
Java moss like that is gonna suck a lot of co2 up so...
>>2097482
You=retard
>>2097525
You do realise it has like 10 replies & this one 80+?
My rescued pair Cinnamons clowns took my corkscrew anemone like a hobo to bottle of Jagermister.
I need names for the pair any suggestions?
>>2097612
Why not vayeate and isafag?
Seriously lose the trip
>>2097292
any other suggestions?
Accidentally got a baby rabbit snail with some plants. Knew nothing about their care before today. Anyone here have experience with them? He's not gonna survive in this 2/3rds cycled planted tank I take it. I don't really wanna bother fucking around with the pH for him.
I think I'm gonna just return him to the LFS. Sucks, I already like the lil fucker, he's real active.
>>2097681
That's some stunning autism
It's a fucking snail, kid
>>2097681
I keep yellow poso snails. The need hard, high pH water that's at least 80F. Otherwise they're easy to care for. I feed mine spinach, kale, and algae discs.
>>2097612
based off your description just call them jaeger and meister
>>2097612
>naming your fish
but seriously, how much water are you running in that system? Seems like adding some messy eaters might screw with that perfect balance you got going?
>>2097684
>accusing other people of autism for asking about the care requirements of animals in an aquarium general on a board for discussing the care requirements of animals
>tripfag who NEEDS a special name on an anonymous Kyrgyzstani metallurgy symposium throwing the word autism around at all
>tripfag contributing anything
Why are trips always such faggots?
I have two african clawed frogs in one tank, and several mollies in another. The mollies are breeding like crazy, and I'm thinking this would be an easy food source for my frogs. I have red that certain fish such as ruby red minnows can cause the frogs problems while digesting them. Just trying to confirm that a Molly is not one of these fish, and make sure I don't harm my frogs in any way.
If this is better suited for amphibian general I will take it there.
>>2097693
I had to go look that one up.
according to Wikipedia the problem is that goldfish and rosy red minnows contain thiaminase that can cause a vitamin B imbalance if that's all you feed for long periods of time.
The article doesn't mention any other types of fish, so presumably those are the only feeders that can become a problem.
Feeding goldfish or r.r. minnows should be fine though as long as you also feed other foods, or if you're dosing vitamins.
either way, I'd guess mollies are fine. Even then you probably want some other foods to mix it up a bit.
>>2097247
they asked me what I had previous knowledge with, which for me was mostly reptiles
there is some training to do, but yeah you're encouraged to learn about what it is you're selling of course/ otherwise you just look stupid when you're bombarded with questions and you answer to all of them is "i dont know"
>>2097696
Thank you. I feed them mysis shrimp a few times a week and occasionally throw in some floating pellets. There are a few guppies(and now mollies) that are sharing the tank with the frogs. Frogs definitely don't pig out on the fish, but they disappear at a fairly steady rate. Appreciate the response!
>>2097566
Fuck yourself you little nigger
>>2097693
Like >>2097696 said, the problem is thiaminase. Thiaminase destroys thiamin (vitamin B) and will cause a deficiency if eaten regularly. It's rather difficult to counterbalance the effect. Mollies are considered safe, though, so you're fine there. If you want to feed minnows or goldfish as a treat once a week or so, that's not enough to cause problems.
http://www.gartersnake.info/articles/2012/all-about-thiaminase.php has a list you can look through.
Trying again with Rotala rotundifolia and Xmas moss in place of the Cyperus helferi and most of the java fern. I think I want to move the larger java fern plant to the left side of that rock stack.
>>2097728
Does this really count towards piscivores? My puffer will not eat anything but live fish and there's zero way to get him on to dead food and no amount of training can get him onto dead food.
>>2097750
I think you'll like the rotala. Even in low light with no CO2 mine would at least look decent. If you get a better light or CO2 it's one of the most beautiful plants around imo.
One observation: it seems prone to potassium deficiencies, evidenced by tiny holes in all the leaves. You might end up needing to supplement that.
How fucked (on a scale of 1 to 10) would Endler's Livebearers be in a tank with a juvenile angelfish? My father's Endlers are outbreeding their tank fast and need new homes, but I'm concerned that my fish might make a meal of them.
>>2097691
Cinamons aren't very messy eaters. Or at least mine isn't. Never leaves a single scrap
Just picked up a couple WCMM's today and noticed one of them was hanging back from the others. His fins seemed to be torn up, and he's looking pretty thin. What are his chances of survival and is there anything I can do to help the little guy?
How do you effectively get green algae spots off glass?
I've tried scrubbing it off but it's not very effective and too time consuming.
Is there an easier way like some kind of chemical?
>>2097821
Scrape it off with an old plastic bank card or credit card ect
>>2097691
I have a 110g tank with a powerful biofilter running a low nutrient system.
>>2096746
I am aquatic plant supplier in my home town. We grow some quality stargrass, riccia, ludwigia, hc and other shit we also got good quality affordable shrimp though everything in a third world country is cheaper
>>2097821
Buy an efficient algae eater like otocinclus or Siamese algae eaters
>>2097807
They are gonna get rekt by angels. I shit u not
>>2097759
Give him snails man it is its natural food. Pond snails or ramshorns are good enough
I've bought two zebra nerite snails. Hopefully these will eat the algae on my glass
>>2097303
Your tank is so awesome. I'm jealous
>When you somehow always managed to get the retard fish with the bent spine
>>2097750
I really don't understand what's going on with your tank. Looks like you stacked up some slate against the back glass and have just been buying one of every easy plant that you see and planting them in a line. Did you know that some plants and combinations of plants actually fight with each other?
It's better to pick an ecotope and use only fish and plants from that environment. You've got a lot of Asian stuff but there's also African stuff in there and just way too many plants in general. Good planted tanks tend to focus on just a small handful of plants. For a South American ecotope that might be a variety of swords and cabomba and eridea
>>2097825
oh, ok.
I thought you were under 50 for some reason.
a couple clowns won't make a dent in 110g.
How hard is it to maintain a 30L cube?
It wouldnt be my first tank, i got a 200L like 6 years ago wich i never had any major problems with.
The 30L cube would be for shrimps.
Do you use a co2 device for a tank that small?
>>2097897
Test successful, rainbow is chill with the garra
Unfortunately, I just realised the garra has one eye, guess he's a pirate now.
>>2097980
Nah CO2 isn't really needed unless you want the plants to carpet.
Shrimps and dwarf crayfish will do just fine in 30L tanks.
Bought 2 orange platys on a whim while I was at my lfs today.
They have currently been shitting for the last several hours, their shits being about 2 inches long and still going.
Have they been overfed?
>>2097996
Worms, just feed them mashed boiled garlic mixed with boiled de-shelled peas.
>>2097996
Most likely. Avoid feeding for 3 days or more.
>>2097841
Congo puffers don't eat snails and won't. Fish or shrimp only.
So my fucking thread which I made before this one gets deleted? Fuck you retarded faggots. You're going to regret this.
>>2098013
>"You're going to regret this."
Oh my
Did a bit of a rescape. Ended up throwing away tons of javafern.
is a nerite snail not moving after being introduced to a tank normal?
What plants are fast growing and have the biggest root system?
I did my tank with soil that was mostly silt. It's been set up for a few months now but it's really compacted still and some of the plants I pulled up have rotting roots. I also have insane amounts of hair algae. I was thinking malaysian trumpet snails and plants with large root systems would help...
>>2098039
How long has he not moved? One of mine took an hour and one right away.
>>2097977
No that's about it, I do have alot of fish in my tank those two cinamons are probably gonna be the last aside from a lawnmower blenny down the line.
So far I have
1 large Rabbit fish
5 blue cromis
1 kole tang
1 Coral Beauty angel
1 orange spotted blenny
1 Six line wrasse
1 Blue damsel fish.
And one corkscrew anemone and a clam.
>>2098066
Best thing to do is add 1 drop of sink water or piss and they all instantly die and you can start a badass freshwater tank
>>2098069
>This is what freshwater fags actually believe.
>>2098066
I have a similar amount of water I guess, a 60g with a 40g sump. But I don't have any filter on it atm, so far less fish.
I like the coral beauties, but the one I got a couple months back has turned a lot darker than when I first bought it. Still a cool fish though, easily the hardiest Centropyge I've ever kept. They survive nicely.
>>2098079
M8 it's just banter
>>2096713
Is it okay to leave the fry in the trap or should I buy a breeding net cage for them?
what are the white hair like things growing on my water sprite? Feat. baby shrimp
Speaking of the baby shrimp, my pregnant rcs died yesterday, and now I've seen 2 fry. Did they hatch after being moved by me picking up the dead shrimp with the net?
>>2098032
That looks really nice!
Dang Aquarius are cool
>>2098013
oh shit
Current state of my 100 gal. reef tank.
>>2098208
*yawn*
>>2098208
gorgeous! what lights are you using?
my rcs reproduced once and thats it. what do
>>2098208
Nice hammers how old is your tank? You might want to frag some of the xenia and hammers though they are one of the few corals that can grow to plague proportions.
>>2098243
>colony is gonna build over time.
thats what i want. they havnt reproduced for months now. none of my females are berried
>>2098208
>every saltwater tank ever
>>2097821
Anecdotal evidence states that nerite snails are the only algae eaters with teeth strong enough to scrape of green spot algae. I've found a combination of utility razors and melamine foam sponges ("Magic Erasers") to be the most effective way of manually removing it.
>>2097800
Yeah, it more or less took over the last nano I out it in, so in hoping to have good luck with it again.
The purpose of this tank is to be as low tech as possible. Initially I didn't even want to use a light, but I scrapped that idea in favor of the windowsill tank at >>209632. If I can't grow it without supplements I'll just try something else. Maybe anacharis.
>>2097897
>criticizes anon for getting disabled fish and not handpicking them
>turns out he handpicked his own disabled fish by accident
wew lad
>>2098273
Link should be to>>2096321
>>2097953#
>Looks like you stacked up some slate against the back glass and have just been buying one of every easy plant that you see and planting them in a line.
Yeah, that's basically the idea. Yeah, the val and sash are a bit hokey, but I was curious to how well they would do. These are all excess plants from other tanks, so it's not like I'm breaking my bank buying plants to put in here.
>Did you know that some plants and combinations of plants actually fight with each other?
There's no scientific evidence of this in aquaria.
>way too many plants in general
Both subjectively incogent and objectively false.
>Good planted tanks
Opinion
>tend to focus on just a small handful of plants
Absolut Skitsnack
>South American ecotope
>a variety of swords
The only sword small enough to fit in a tank 6 inches tall (which this is) is the pygmy chain sword, which is native to the United States.
If you're going to questionable "advice" on here you could at least make it a little harder to identify you.
>Having to live your fish to the care of relatives
>>2098259
Ah, parameters? Are you feeding a lot? Tank established for how long and any tankmates?
>>2098279
autism comes in every spectrum, anon
>>2098277
Well mr autism I'm sure sorry I thought that was a real tank and not some nano bitch shit with a bunch of malnourished crap growing in it. Focal lengths and shit, you know? By golly I guess I'll just keep my "opinions" to myself next time
>>2098286
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
>>2098283
dang. what type of moss or whatever is tghat
>>2098292
Java Moss.
>>2098293
how can you have a tank with that peat like substrate
i need to do some shit to my 10 gal betta tank its so fucking boring and i cant have anything with him
>>2098046
Bulb plants such as lilies and Aponogenton fit, but they can get huge, 2-3 foot stems and some of them go through dormant stages.
>>2098283
That is fucking beautiful man
>>2098286
>I'm sure sorry I thought that was a real tank and not some nano
Making a nano look bugger than it is is a hallmark feature of a "good planted tank," so I'm obviously doing something right.
>>2098298
>Which Aponogeton would be the ideal one?
Aponogeton madagascariensis (Madagascar lace) is the only one I know of that doesn't go dormant, not to say there aren't others. It also tends to tolerate warmer temperatures better than other species.
>>2097821
red ramshorn snails
they keep all my tanks clean as fuck, and at the rate they breed, my puffers have a near limitless supply of snail goodness
R8 my 20gl aquarium and aqua scape mkII.
I'm going for a bottom of the tidal Potomac pvc trash on the bottom look.
Light is a Maxspect Glavie m80.
>>2098317
i like your themed beer tripfag
>>2098279
You would kill yourself trying to keep a planted tank alive anon. Reefs are much easier.
>>2098330
That is not the point of keeping aquariums. Go measure your dick somewhere else.
>>2098333
You're the only one mentioning this
>>2098330
>You would kill yourself trying to keep a planted tank alive anon. Reefs are much easier.
>Reefs are much easier
Yeah you need a lot of esoteric specialist knowledge to keep your super expensive Vals alive, kid.
>>2098341
It's not that hard keeping a reef alive compared to most aquatic plants. This is common knowledge and you're using plants that are just "lol stick in substrate and leave alone" which there's only a few. Nice try though. This is why salt water elitist turn people off the hobby
>>2098354
>my plants all die when nitrates go above 10
Most reefkeepers used to keep planted tanks. Many still do.
If you want to know which one is actually more difficult, try them both. I'm not knocking planted tanks here, they often ARE extremely difficult to keep.
Reefs are just a whole different level. The sheer amount of equipment required should be some clue.
not that more difficult=better. In real life you'll rarely meet a reef keeper that's going to mock your decision to keep a planted FW tank. That's just silly. People can do what they enjoy and they shouldn't be made to feel bad about it. Especially since we're all the same hobby really.
>>2098360
I actually keep fresh, brackish, and marine tanks. Kind of obsessed
>>2098364
me too.
I don't keep CO2 injected tanks any more though, reef or planted. Anything that requires a constant diet of carbon is probably more work than I have time for.
>>2098366
Jk I keep human babies in 220 gallon tanks
>>2098369
pics?
>>2098306
No, it doesn't look big, it's just a shitty tank.
>At my local LFS
>See they have some rams
>Listed as peaceful community fish
I thought they got quite aggressive?
How does /aq/ feel about getting rid of fish?
I bought 2 Indian Gouramis when I first got my tank and honestly they're the most boring things ever. Just hide all day.
Really wish I could get some more interesting fish but the two gouramis are taking up a lot of bioload.
>>2098371
Are you a cop?
>>2098407
Happens all the time friend. Constantly swapping or selling fish till I get that perfect set up. Today I'm taking my rivulatus back because the dickhead killed my giant red tail gourami.
>>2098406
Depends on what's in the tank
>>2097813
Just woke up, found him dead stuck to the foam guard on my powerhead. Others seem perfectly healthy however.
>>2098412
Haha
>At LFS
>See a betta I like
>It's either a really bright and large finned female or a really dull and small finned male
>If it's female I can put it in my tank
>Turns out it's male
Shit sucks
Any idea how to net large fast moving fish from a heavily planted aquarium with lots of hiding places?
>>2098465
Cyanide desu senpai
>>2098465
Clove Oil, it stops them in their tracks.
Well I got rid of my indian gourami. Felt a bit bad because the guy at the LFS just dumped it from the bag straight into a tank with other gouramis without acclimating it. Hope someone buys it.
Now that it's gone, what could I get as a centre piece fish that wont be a boring cunt that hides all the time.
70L Planted aquarium with 5 Rosy Tetra, 3 Neon Tetra, 10 Glowlight tetra and 2 platys
>>2098465
Catch it during a huge water change.
>>2098491
Acclimation usually isn't necessary in that type of situation, especially if it was only in your bag for an hour or two. The slight pH/temperature shock the fish might go through is usually less of a risk than leaving it in a bag with ammonia creeping up.
So i always read that if you have plants the plants should out compete green algae in an established tank...I have 5 plants but after my nerite snail died my tank is exploding in green algae, what do i do?
What are some good fish for a dim lighting style tank? Some that are iridescent.
I've been eyeing up some Norman's lampeyes.
What is it about expensive light units that allows them to be very bright, but not wash out the entire tank with light?
If you notice when you look at aquascapes the light is very bright, but there's still a large contrast between the light and dark parts.
When I bought a cheap LED light it just washed the entire tank out with light and made it look cheap and shit.
>>2098522
has nothing to do with expensive lights, has everything to do with photography lights and lighting techniques.
you understand the difference between reality and fantasy, right?...
>>2098517
Another snail
>>2097028
kek
>>2098523
Can't be all camera trickery.
Expensive lights seem to have light the travels more directly and doesn't bounce all around the tank flooding everything with light.
The light that hits the leaves is very bright but after it hits the leaves it's very shady behind them
Or maybe it's something to do with the glass bending the light?
Either way good aquascapes seem too look like someone has used the photoshop curves filter irl.
>>2098528
Meanwhile the lighting in my tank is too orangy, too diffuse and doesn't give that sense of scale you get in professional aquascapes.
alriht i have a bunch of aquariums/terrariums im lookin what to do with one 50 gallon, one 30 gallon, to 20 gallon, and one 10 gallon not oing to buy anything, i have a 60-100 gallon bubbler with 2 outflows , and i dont want to pay for fishes so il just go with fish i can catch myself native here, i dont have a filter and that may be the one thing i consider buying , how large of fished can i keep in the aquariums, the 50 gallon is 4 ft long so i figured fish up to maybe 14-16 inches?
>>2098540
Use the "bubbler" to power some sponge filters and kill two birds with one stone.
Keeping a 14-16 inch fish in a 50 gallon tank isn't as cool as it sounds. The fish barely has space to turn around. Where do you live and what kind of local fish would you have access to you?
>>2098547
i have one pump but no filter for it, and blueill, sunfish, yellow perch, largemouth bass, chain pickerel, bulhead, maybe some trout species, ,when anything gets too big it will go back into a small ( 1-2000 galon) pond of mine
>>2098548
A 50 gallon tank with a few bluegill could be really awesome.
>>2098547
i was thinking of keepin baitfish in both of the 20 gallon containers, and running both off the bubber, with little to no filtration, i would change out the water occationally but i really would like to do something neat in the larger tank
>>2098551
i would stick to minimal planting etc but would be fine adding some yellow perch and gills into it , maybe a small pickerel if i can catch one smallest ive found is 15 inches n though id need to buy a filter for that ,
Do in line heaters actually work?
By the time it's sensed the water going by it is cold and heated up wouldn't the water already be in the tank?
>>2098535
A 90w 10k halide will look so much better
Is this floramax 17 watt 24 inch light going to be enough to light my planted 37 gallon?
>>2098555
No, anon, they just sell this entire class of product that doesn't work at all. Clearly, they can't possibly work, because you thought about it for two seconds and you can't understand how they work, so that means they don't work.
Here is one of my bettas. I've had him for a year. First pic his him the day he came home. I just love how different he looks.
>>2098555
....is that strictly for water changes? whats the point? I just take the heater out of my tank and stick it in the bucket anyways.....
>>2098567
For very low light plants, yes.
>>2098555
>Do in tank heaters actually work?
>By the time it's sensed the water near it is cold and heated up wouldn't the water already be somewhere else in the tank?
>>2098406
Blue rams are always considered generally peaceful. The only thing I've ever heard of one attacking was a Betta when someone put the two in a 10 gallon tank.
>>2098491
Ram cichlid, Apistogramma spp., Betta (splendens or other), swordtails.
>>2098518
I had some eyespot rasboras for a while that I liked, but they kept jumping out of the tank so I gave up on them. Neon, green neon, cardinal, and glowlight tetras will also have that effect.
>>2098522
Some of it has to do with the glare of the bulbs and the quality of the reflector or lens. Better reflectors and lenses disperse light more evenly, and higher quality bulbs glare less.
A great deal of it is also the camera. HDR photography goes a long way in evening out light levels.
>>2098540
Sponge and box filters are cheap and you can run a bunch of them off of a single air pump. You can also make your own. YouTube has several tutorials.
>>2098606
why would irunit off of the air pump? why not off of my cheap submersible pump
>>2098619
I didn't realize you had both. You could run it off of either, but most of those styles of filters are designed to run off of air pumps. air-powered filters are still very effective and do a great job of keeping the tank stable and clean.
Finally happy with my rescape I think
>>2098629
how do they run off the air pimp?
>>2098631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f8X_Mb3Vys&t=282
(I suggest muting it)
>>2098013
>You're going to regret this
>Nerite snail hasn't moved 2 days since adding it
How the fuck does something as simple as a snail die from stress? It doesn't have the mental capacity to feel stress.
Also it's a snail, they're like water cockroaches. I have Assassin snails which I literally throw across the room from one tank to another without acclimating and they do fine.
>>2098637
neat idea, though can i fin one for 20, 30 or 50 gallons? or is it based off of airflow
Are fake plants that bad on aquariums? I see everyone here with real plants and shit but i cant get myself to learn how to take care of them and my fishes seems to do fine with fake plants
>>2098653
You don't need to "take care" of plants
>>2098653
Good for pets that tend to eat/destroy them like crawfish.
There are some easy-tier plants you can start with.
If you truly want no effort try a marimo-meme ball
>Platy has passed another piece of white thread since I bought him yesterday
Looks exactly like this photo.
What is it? I picked it off with some tweezers and it doesn't seem alive.
>>2098653
Plastic plants are fine. Most people with fish don't keep plants. The ones that do like bragging about their planted tank, so seems like there's more of 'em.
>>2098491
Your tank is pretty overstocked.
>>2098661
That's poop.
So do to me getting a new job at a LFS, I will be diving into a 5,000 gallon shark tank at the end of may. The tank includes 3 foot black tip sharks, coral banded sharks, and a large bat ray.
Does anyone have any experience with doing something like this? I think vayeate may, but is there anyone else? The more I think about it, the more real it gets. And the more I don't want either.
A. A golf ball sized chunk of flesh being ripped off my arm.
or
B. A 1.5 foot barb going through my leg.
I'm not to worried about something bad happening... as far as I've been told by the people at the shop, the sharks are pretty docile. The hardest thing it seems, is not stepping on the sting ray, since it loves to bury itself in the sand. Suggestions?
>>2098681
>I'm not too worried
For someone who is not too worried you're making an awful lot of posts about how scary some pet fish are.
it's super easy to avoid a sting ray. how much walking around are you planning to do in there anyway?
>>2098681
>He is scared of some babby sharks and a lil ray
lal
>>2098672
Should it be pooping every 5 minutes?
>>2098684
Have you ever been in the water with sharks?
>>2098640
>It doesn't have the mental capacity to feel stress.
And apparently you don't have the mental capacity to grasp the concept of stress.
>>2098692
Only wild ones, but I did chase them and touch the slowest couple.
>>2098704
Rays are fish and you're straight up stupid to be terrified of it. All you have to do is not pin it down from above, it's not like they go around stabbing shit for fun.
>>2098704
>has nvr been to a ray petting pond
the black tips are all I'd be worried about.
>>2098409
How aggressive is human baby? Community tank?
>>2098763
If you don't feed them they'll start eating others
>>2098643
It's based on the size of the sponge. Hydro-Sponge makes ones they rate for up to 125 gallons (the Hydro-Sponge Pro V). That design will work with a powerhead, if yours happens to fit into the lift tube.
>>2098653
Fake plants provide fish with cover and create shaded areas for them. Live plants provide additional benefits like oxygenating the water and removing nitrogen. Fake plants certainly aren't "bad," unless you're talking about sharp plastic and fish with large, delicate fins like bettas.
I'd never use fake plants in my own tanks, but seriously, anyone who would give you shit for using them is just an asshole and not worth listening to.
>>2098782
>inanimate objects like glass and metal can be stressed
but they can't feel stress.
stress is a physical process, feeling is a mental one.
>>2098828
He's fine. My filter broke so I put the filter wheel in the water and my bristlenose found a new home.
>>2098681
have you considered that they may be fucking with you?
>>2098922
not him but I agree.
a 5000g tank deep enough to dive in wouldn't be big enough for those animals to turn around.
>>2098922
>anon gets told the equivalent of "bring me the board stretcher"
>falls for it
every time. I love FNG.
>>2098928
>a 5000g tank deep enough to dive in wouldn't be big enough for those animals to turn around.
It could be if the 3 ft sharks are the largest thing in the tank and everything else is juvenile and/or stunted. 12*6*9 feet works out to a little less than 5000 gallons.
>>2098946
they'd have a hell of a problem once those black tips and the ray grew up.
most of the large shark tanks I've seen are either plastic swimming pools or stock tanks though. Usually less than 4 feet deep.
>>2098950
>they'd have a hell of a problem once those black tips and the ray grew up.
Assuming they're the kind of people who would care about that sort of thing.
>most of the large shark tanks I've seen are either plastic swimming pools or stock tanks though. Usually less than 4 feet deep.
Depending on how loosely you want to define "diving," a cylindrical tank 6 feet tall and 12 feet in diameter is also 5000 gallons, so if anything that makes it more plausible.
>>2098959
could you imagine trying to aerate a tank with that little surface? I mean for that kind of bioload? They'd need a skimmer the size of a car.
Or the cost? Some $30k custom tank to hold $3k worth of fish?
it would be funny if it's true. I'd love to see the thing!
>>2097024
how is working at petco ?
is it any less shady as working at petsmart or same level of scumfuckery ?
>>2098966
I think its largely dependent on your store's location/who's running the joint
Our animal care isn't too bad, we got some people that really care but our hands are tied a lot of the time. Animals are taken to the vet in a timely manner, deads are removed as quickly and discreetly as possible.
I think we got some shady stuff going on in the finances/inventory department though but only the GMs know about that shit. But I mean shit its hard to run a store when we literally have ten people working in here and most of us are part-time
>>2098972
>I think we got some shady stuff going on in the finances/inventory department
if you ever find yourself running a store you'll soon discover that "shady stuff" is probably what the GM is getting paid for.
manipulating sales and inventory to meet certain deadlines is a major part of the job. Even when it's not required by the owner/shareholders, it's useful for getting your bonuses.
Made your sales bonus for this month? Start shaving off some of your sales and then enter them later to boost sales for next month.
You going to lose your cost bonus this month but someone across town already made theirs? Borrow some inventory from them for a month to pad yours.
Not saying everything in your store is aboveboard and legal, just saying managers get paid to adjust the way the numbers come in.
I'm trying to build an Above Tank Basking Area for two Red Eared Sliders. They're still babies, so I'm using a 20gal and probably some egg crate as the base.
My question is, since they're still tiny, is there any kind of substrate or grass material I can put on top of the egg crate so they don't fall through/ hurt themselves? I want the sod/ substrate to be able to last. Any thoughts on the matter or general ATBA ideas would be appreciated.
>three lfs in my area
>Whenever I see they have some female bettas in half of them are lying on the bottom half dead
Are female bettas really weak or something?
I've got one and it seems to be doing fine.
>Have 2 aquariums
>Both using the same cheap 10,000k LED lighting rigs
>The lighting in one is really orangey
How can the same colour light make different colour aquariums?
>>2099041
Beamworks
How do you get a canister filter restarted?
My siphon fell out my tank but when I put it back in it isn't pumping anything and the filter is making a loud noise.
Is is full of water but it's not pumping anything back into the tank
>>2099061
What canister? But try priming it like when you set it up.
>>2099066
Got it working now, had to tip all the water out, I don't know why. But after I did the siphon started pulling water down and then it started pumping it back in.
>>2099067
Newb to canisters?
>>2099070
I've had it a few months but I've not touched it since initially setting it up
>Had black background on my tank for years
>Tank always looked shit
>Remove background
>Tank instantly looks better
Black backgrounds are a meme
>>2099074
No. Only if you don't know how to scape right. They're also used more for taking pictures.
How do you trim moss without it getting blown all over your tank?
Siphoning it out isn't an option because I don't want to do a water change every time I do a trim.
>>2099085
Replace it with moss balls
>>2098681
I will say this again, the sharks are going to be more freaked out then you. Unless you intentionally try to grab them or hurt them you'll be fine.
The fish that are likey to hurt you are likey triggers and large clowns, and it's always when your doing something delicate like gluing corals causing you to flinch and knock things over.
More importantly you should have a fullfaced scuba mask and no less then 2.5mm exposure suit with gloves and a boots. A BCD isnt required but any weights you wear should be covered in a cushioned pouch and on a quick release belt. Obviously you should be usin a hookah style air compressor with a decent regulator on the full faced mask.
Also you need to ask for more money. And really you need to be certified.
>at new LFS
>only plecos they sell are commons
>see a dude white as fuck, but dressed like a typical nigger, backwards baseball-cap and all
>watch him buy 5 bala sharks and 2 common plecos
Hue
>>2099089
What about buying fish small and then selling them back once they become big? Is that ok?
>>2099041
>>2099041
Lmao definitely sounds like Beamsworks. Their LEDs are never consistent. It's like the assemble lights with spare LEDs or LEDs that didn't quite pass QC or something. Another YouTuber was complaining he couldn't get two fixtures with the same color white.
My fixture has this one red LED that basically just projects a red light in the middle of my tank like a laser pointer with a low battery.
But for my purposes (low-tech tank I really don't care about that much) it's great low-heat bang:buck solution with enough lighting to grow easy plants.
>>2099092
No point as you could sell them on Craigslist or something for much more
Why didn't anyone tell me glowlight tetras are an even bigger meme than meme tetras?
They hardly move.
>>2099095
Who's going to buy a 2 ft common pleco?
>>2099093
Ya I have the 7500k beamworks
>>2099089
sheeit nigga I got me some muhfuggin Sharks sheeit gonna scare muh niggas and get deez algae eaters to eat all the shit
>>2099097
People with large tanks and money. If that nigger gets to big the shops won't even take it back if the tanks aren't big enough.
>>2099096
They aren't worth the breath or greasy typing fingers here
How do you do backgrounds like this?
Honestly what is the point of keeping goldfish?
>>2099181
Same as keeping any other kind of fish.
>>2099189
But they look tacky and they destroy all your plants.
Why not get some orange platys or swordtails?
So I'm experimenting with backdrops using a spare light and some left over blue plastic sheet
>>2099193
I don't think they look tacky, I think they're often kept by people with tacky tastes. Goldfish themselves are pretty. At least the non-fucked ones are.
>>2098966
>is it any less shady as working at petsmart or same level of scumfuckery ?
Until recently my local PetSmart was miles above the local Petco. PetSmart is still just as good, but Petco seems to have gotten new staff and is catching up, which is nice.
For all the shit you guys give chain stores, on an individual basis, they're literally no different from family owned shops in terms of care. If you have employees that care and know what they're doing, it's going to be a good store, if you don't, it's going to be crap.
>>2099096
My glowlights were much more active than my memefish
>Want to go lidless
>Worried my amano shrimp will climb out
What do?
>>2099085
Turn off whatever is blowing it around the tank?
>submersible RC camera
>VR goggles
>virtually swim around in your own tank and observe everything at fish-scale
New experiment. No background now only lights.
>buy new Finnex light
>super excited
>plants gonna grow like wildfire
>set it up
>doesn't seem very bright, but whatevs
>flashes red each time it starts up
>now it doesn't start at all
Goddamnit. My $20 shop lights never failed me, but my $140 LED lasts less than a week.
>>2099237
Actually they've become a light more active now I've dimmed the lights. Wonder why.
>>2099264
I would into this. Or experience the fear or being ate alive gets me diamonds.
What do you think? Trying to get into photographing my fish and going to photograph fish for the lfs I frequent.
Spraybar or Lilypipe /aq/?
My fish don't like that much current but my plants need it. So I need a compromise.
>>2099278
nice job on the focus
if you're using flash turn it off or clean that water up though.
>>2099281
The particles? They were next to the filter and it makes all these mini bubbles. No flash though and only a t8. I'm hoping I show them some images of mine and they'll let me do it as they are not great at taking photos. Always blurry.
>>2098992
People don't seem to want females, so they've probably been around for longer than their tiny cup habitat can support.
Personally, I have a massive sorority that has been my favorite tank by far. My girls are all feisty and lively, but I rarely see a nipped fin. Worst thing that ever happens is someone jumps out of the tiny crack between the HOB filter and the tank lid.
>>2099290
shooting fish through glass isn't easy. Takes some practice and persistence. Looks like you've got it down better than most.
Hey /an/, I need your help.
I need you to answer few aquarium&fish related questions and either advice or outright say Im an idiot and shouldn't do what I want to do.
For quite some time I had thoughts in my head related to setting up an aquarium.
I just want some change in my life, and think that keeping an aquarium might just be something that might do the job.
The problem is, I dont want to go all out.
I want something small and simple.
And by simple I mean bare bones simple.
I was skimming articles on net and find myself wondering.
How much stuff can I take out of aquarium and still have it operating well?
If I use an undergravel filter and let water cascade gently from the pump onto the water surface, will it be enough to both filter and provide enough oxygen into the water?
Taking it a step further.
To not worry fishes with vacuuming the gravel, can I just set a pump to suck up water, then run it throu 15cm long&5cm diameter PCV pipe filled with gravel or other substrate acting as a filter, and then let what comes out cascade into the tank to air water?
Would bacteria stay in such 'filter', or would they be constantly washed away by the current? What If the current would be more gentle?
Are lighting and heater needed?
I guess heater isnt if I can find some fishes that feel fine in room temps.
Is lighting just for show or does it provide fishes with a stable day-night cycle? Maybe both? Will they be ok with unregulated light-dark cycles or will it stress it into quitting life? Or maybe it depends on the species?
Is it viable to make homemade fishfood instead of buying one from the store?
>>2099320
How small of an aquarium is too small? Im thinking 3-4 fishes not longer than 5cm each. Is it species dependent? Probably.
Its easier to maintain balance in big tank, because anything harmful would be in more water, thus having less concentration, right?
Would it be possible to have additional big water container(unsuited for fishkeeping due to shape for example) feeding water into the fish tank in order to have more water circulating in small tank? Would that improve overall balance of the system or do the opposite?
Lastly, If I ever have fishes, what species are lower maintenance than others and more durable for amateur fuck ups?
Some that dont need a heater, are fine for cycling tank on their own, stuff like that.
Should I just stop trying or educate myself and do everything properly?
>>2099320
>If I use an undergravel filter... will it be enough to both filter and provide enough oxygen into the water?
yes.
>To not worry fishes with vacuuming the gravel, can I just set a pump to suck up water, then run it throu 15cm long&5cm diameter PCV pipe filled with gravel or other substrate acting as a filter, and then let what comes out cascade into the tank to air water?
that would be fine.
>Would bacteria stay in such 'filter', or would they be constantly washed away by the current?
they stay.
>What If the current would be more gentle?
no need.
>Are lighting and heater needed?
only if you're keeping plants and tropical fish.
>I guess heater isnt if I can find some fishes that feel fine in room temps.
there's more tropical fish in stores, so heaters give you more options.
>Is lighting just for show or does it provide fishes with a stable day-night cycle?
unless you have plants it's just for show.
>Will they be ok with unregulated light-dark cycles or will it stress it into quitting life?
it's fine.
>Or maybe it depends on the species?
all species can survive whatever light cycle you give them.
>Is it viable to make homemade fishfood instead of buying one from the store?
it's more expensive.>>2099324
>Its easier to maintain balance in big tank, because anything harmful would be in more water, thus having less concentration, right?
right.
>Would it be possible to have additional big container... feeding water into the fish tank in order to have more water circulating in small tank?
yes, this is called a sump. google it. it works.
>Would that improve overall balance of the system or do the opposite?
vastly improves it.
>what species are lower maintenance and more durable?
ask the people at the fish store. Honestly you're not going to find a lot of fish that don't need a heater though.
>Should I just stop trying or educate myself and do everything properly?
absolutely not. you've shown more understanding than most of /an/ has already.
Week 10
how the fuck do i get rid of diatoms, jesus fucking christ. Now that I got rid of the nerite snail the sides of my tank go brown in like 5 days.
Really need more wattage, plants aren't going to grow past this point it seems. I will never understand how amazon swords got an "easy" reputation, they require ferts, co2/excel, and huge amounts of light. Not a beginner plant.
>>2099320
>How much stuff can I take out of an aquarium and still have it operating well?
If your tank has a filter and is properly cycled, anything besides the filter.
>If I use an undergravel filter
>wanting to use a 90's deathtrap
>To not worry fishes with vacuuming the gravel
They'll get used to it, no fish is stupid enough to get near your filthy hands.
>Are lightning and heater needed
If you live in a place where temperatures fluctuate variably, yes, you do need a heater otherwise some fish may freeze/overheat to death. Lightning is optional unless you're having a planted tank.
>Is lighting just for show
Lighting causes a simulated Day/Night cycle for fish.
>Will they be ok with unregulated light-dark cycles
Absolutely, they'll be inactive if it's too dark, however.
>Is it viable to make homemade fishfood
No.
>>2099324
>How small of an aquarium is too small
Anything below 20 gallons is too small for most small fish, do not follow any rule but keep check on bioload and swimming space
>It's easier to maintain balance in a big tank
Yes.
>What species are lower maintenance than others and more durable for amateur fuck ups
Feeder guppies and Ghost shrimps, kept in both 60F and above temperatures plus very indestructible.
>Should I just stop trying or educate myself and do everything properly
Entirely your decision.
>>2099333
>not being able to keep amazon swords alive
>>2099333
UV sterilizers work
>>2099341
won't that also kill all the nitrifying bacteria?
>>2099337
not everyone has 300 dollars for co2 and lights.
>>2099343
No they don't kill the nitrfying bacteria. Remember that bacteria lives on the surfaces of your tank.
UV is good for clearing water and helping to keep pathogenic bacteria loads down. It won't however "clean" your water in terms of organic waste nor will it cure or treat issues like ich if your fish are already infected.
>>2099308
T-thank you..
>>2099351
diatoms aren't bacteria
>>2099267
Bottom left is my aesthetic.
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