Can we use these to breed dogs that look like foxes? Cause I really want a dog that just looks like a fox, but without all the annoying traits of a wild animal.
Just get a spitz.
probably not, because the are not really closely related to dogs
![Canis_aureus_naria_-_Yala_December_2010_%281%29[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8XcG8TP.jpg "Canis_aureus_naria_-_Yala_December_2010_%281%29[1].jpg")
>>2074776
No, because the maned wolf is actually a type of fox, and foxes don't have the same number of chromosomes as domestic dogs. Real wolves, coyotes and jackals are capable of hybridization with dogs though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canid_hybrid
>>2074855
Sheep and goats do not have the same amount and horses and donkeys don't(zebras also have a difference amount that varies from species).
The maned wolf is also not a type of fox. Their closest living relative is the bush dog, which is also it's own type of canid.
>>2074838
That looks nothing like a fox.
>>2074776
We managed to turn a wolf into a fucking pug. I'm sure they could manage a fox looking dog if someone really wanted.
>>2074913
pugs are still wolves.
>>2074914
![6f7c8cb37c20cdf8ac44e509b37ec8b1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kumDjT6.jpg "6f7c8cb37c20cdf8ac44e509b37ec8b1[1].jpg")
Shiba Inu is bred to look like a fox.
I have a red heeler that's probably mixed with something and she looks like a lil fox. Probably won't when she gets bigger tho
>>2074980
I advise you to post pictures now, then.
>>2074776
Well, canids somewhat closely related to your picture were once at least semi-domesticated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuegian_dog . In their wild (and these days, only) state, they look a lot more like foxes than anything else.
>>2074983
Pic related.
>>2074952
I wish that tail was actually the dog's tail.
![CIMG2550[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/U9jgktj.jpg "CIMG2550[1].jpg")
>>2075167
Not all shiba inus curl their tail.
![fb65e5c7139950f5a6d5eafbf825697b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2wCH5JC.jpg "fb65e5c7139950f5a6d5eafbf825697b[1].jpg")
Another Shiba Inu (in "sable" color) that has that wild canid look.
>>2075191
Not that anon but it's too long, big and fluffy for a shiba.
And if you don't take my word for it..
https://www.pinterest.com/chante8492/mini-shiba-inu/
![4f7761d783467d98762b3799d7d28c80[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M1Ef3bk.jpg "4f7761d783467d98762b3799d7d28c80[1].jpg")
Husky Shiba Inu mix
>>2075191
The tail only curls when they point it upwards. This dog is not in a mood to have the tail up, so it does not curl.
![mame-shiba-sleep[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hREIn1D.jpg "mame-shiba-sleep[1].jpg")
>>2075194
It seems to depend on the individual.
This one has a rather long fluffy tail.
![5a9c08dbfdcf1db368abf8d1e6f9d859[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HxQqtoE.jpg "5a9c08dbfdcf1db368abf8d1e6f9d859[1].jpg")
>>2075196
I agree the curly tail is a real negative.
Here's an Alaskan Klee Kai. It's not really the same thing as a fox or wolf, but you can imagine how it could be used to breed something similar.
>>2075197
The fur still isn't as long as a fox's tail. I'm not denying they're probably the closest you're going to get if you want a fox, but I just pointed out that the tail next to the shiba before in question was not it's real tail.
I wouldn't say depends on the individual either. That is either just the angle or a very unusual case of a longer tail for a shiba inu. Fur texture isn't the same either for the fur on a shiba.
Finnish spitz.
