How important is someone's facebook page for you?
These goes to both sexes.
Would it affect whether you'd give someoen a chance or not?

Asking cause I just lurk and chat there, never share.

>>17346970
>How important is someone's facebook page for you? Would it affect whether you'd give someone a chance or not?
It is not really important, I usually don't even check people's facebook.

If I go to your facebook and you write stupid stuff, you share things all the time, you post selfies every 5 minutes I'm going to be turned off.
I prefer someone who rarely shares stuff over someone too present.

>>17346979
What about pics?

I'll be honest, I don't like it when the girls only has a few, especially when they are face only.

Girls, why do we guys always have to start the conversation more frequently/often?

>Inb4 it's a game

Fuck that shit, this ain't a VRMMORPG for fucks sake.

>>17346970
i have not used facebook in 6 years
social media is kind of gross to me, and id prefer a potential partner to share my distaste for it

>>17346996
Cause they don't want to look desperate/slutty.
It's how society goes.

>>17347006
>slutty

Fiction

>>17347031
wut?

How do I become a philosopher king?

>>17346987
I still prefer a not-so-strong presence on social media. If someone has pics of himself, I prefer if he's tagged in them and didn't post selfies like a 15 year old.

>I'll be honest, I don't like it when the girls only has a few, especially when they are face only.
I understand where you come from, but meh. I don't add strangers on facebook, so if someone is on my facebook they saw me in person. I don't get the point of posting a lot of pics of myself. I have like 10 pics and they're all face-only (because they are profile pics).

>>17347033
I don't believe in the concept of "Sluts" or "Slutiness".

>>17347040
You don't.
Everyone else does.
Girls play by those rules. And dunno about you, but I'd be turned off by a girl who hits on a lot of guys.

>>17347038
Yeah, facebook camwhoring is a turn off.
Reeks of insecurity.

>>17346996
Men are supposed to do the first move and court women. Women are supposed to choose the best partner between those who court her.
This is the standard, for cultural and biological reasons.
And also, if I have 5 guys going after me, and 4 text me first and 1 doesn't, unless I really do like the one who doesn't, why should I go for him and make more effort?

>>17346970
I don't have facebook, so not whatsoever. It would actually be a turn off to me if a guy invested serious time or energy in that shit.

>>17347040
You don't, most guys do. Ask your friends if they would like their ideal girl to have slept with five or ten guys, it's a rare man who will prefer ten. This goes all the more for young guys, at a certain age you just know everyone comes with a past.

>>17346996
Personal theory is that most girls fall in either of these two categories: a) they get enough attention to get by with people approaching them, which means they can avoid feeling creepy or awkward and initiating. And b) they have not received that kind of attention, have seen their friends receive it, and thus are insecure and feel extra bad about making the first move when they are used to seeing their friends be approached left and right.

Personally, I am picky, I get along with most people but it is rare for me to develop feelings for someone. I already often feel like I am in the shady zone of not knowing whether you are giving a guy a fair chance or leading him on. I don't want to be in a situation where I took initiative and approached the guy, only to conclude that I don't actually mesh with him in that way, which is just the most likely outcome.

I absolutely approach someone if I see a guy I found extremely engaging and attractive on first sight, as long as he's without a potential girlfriend and not significantly better looking than me.
But I am not going to make the first move towards a guy just because I find him cute (like I find 90% of guys). However, if he approaches me, I'll give it a try and at the very least see if we can spark good conversation.

Obviously just one person's perspective.

well my dick dont work, ive tried doing Viagra and that makes it hurt really bad, ive done prostate and i can still only get half hard. every time i do have sex (if able to) it hurts like no other. so do you think there is any girl out there that will be faithful to me?

>>17347064
>4 text me first and 1 doesn't

So what exactly is stopping you from texting him?

it's not like you can break an entire genome with just one phenomenon or some shit.

I mean I live my life like a drone every single day doing boring shit just to live and breathe, and it doesn't cause volcanic eruptions or create a super terrorist that an hero's the next day.

Ok yeah sure I get it when it comes to dating and mating, but what about as people?

Is it really THAT fucking hard to start a conversation with any friend or even a relative?

>>17347082
>Ask your friends if they would like their ideal girl to have slept with five or ten guys

Is it OK if a guy does it?

I don't get it, why is it bad to have had sexual intercourse with more than one person in your entire life?

It's like eating more than one type of recipe is a bad thing, or trying every type of clothing or some shit like that.

STD awareness is automatic and it doesn't count int this topic.

But still, I don't know why, but I absolutely cannot see it as a bad thing for any person to have had sex with more than one person, hell I might even be incapable of seeing it as a bad thing for all I know.

Yeah I know there's that "Do what ever you want with your life and don't give a shit what people think about you" thing.

>>17347086
>So what exactly is stopping you from texting him?
Why the fuck should I make an effort? Why should I bother with the one who doesn't text me first?
This isn't the case if I am truly interested, of course, but if a dude like any other stops talking to me I just keep talking with those who do.

>Is it really THAT fucking hard to start a conversation with any friend or even a relative?
I do text my friends first and my relatives, when I'm interested in talking to them.
I don't talk to friends every day, tho. And there are like 5 people who I consider friends.

>>17347097
Look, I'm not a guy but I have heard about this a lot for years and from what I gather it's not exactly a rational stance.

Obviously there's the whole marry virgins graph (correlation between amount of sex partners and marriage stats, which more likely shows that adventurous thrill seeking people both like casual sex and are unfit for long term monotone commitments, but is typically interpreted as dicks breaking a girl on here) but I feel like in the end it is just used as a somewhat "scientific" backing up of feelings deep down.

It can be pride, feeling a sense of accomplishment when a girl who is hard to get puts out for you, which isn't there with a girl who treats sex casually. Feeling like friends look down on you for dating an easy girl.
It can be disgust with the associated lifestyle - the image the girl going out and getting drunk, grinding on strangers and eventually going home with someone random is not compatible with the image of your ideal kind, loyal wife.
And for people who dislike casual sex and consider it a form of intimacy that should ideally be reserved for people you have real feelings for, the idea that your loved one did that with random guys can feel trashy and/or like you are not on the same wavelength in terms of how you look at sex. Some people find it hard to believe that sex can be as special for someone with twenty partners as for someone who has only been with three people they sincerely loved.

Personally I am convinced that part of it is also spite/jealousy at those girls living it up in ways that most guys would love to but cannot. And with putting less effort in, too.

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Hi all, I would like some advice on how to handle this situation with my SO. We've been together for about 8 months, we just moved in together at the end of June.

The past couple weeks I've been thinking more and more about how much I dislike shaving my legs. To me it's a waste of water, a waste of time, you always run the risk of nicking yourself, and I believe I am just as attractive with hairy legs as I am shaved.

For context: I have nice-shaped legs, the hair is dark, but fine, and only noticeable up close on my shins and calves. My thighs look bare even up close. 99% of people I encounter would never notice. For hygiene reasons I will continue to shave my armpits and bikini area.

My boyfriend says he understands my reasoning, but prefers shaved legs so much that he asked me to shave them as a favor to him, and when I said I wouldn't we spent the rest of the day quarreling. My response is: I do other things for him as favors, that me not wanting to do this does not mean I don't love him, but to no avail.

I'm tempted to bring up the fact there are things I don't prefer about him (his style, for instance), but I honestly don't mind putting up with such things because I know dressing the way he does makes him happy. I just wish he would extend the same courtesy.

TL;DR I've stopped shaving my legs and my SO is pissed, what can I do to diffuse the situation?

>>17347084
What has your doctor said?

>>17347353
Depending on the hair it is a major turn off.
What some girls do is painting them blond because the leg looks bigger that way.

>>17347368
And it doesn't look bad.

>>17347368
I have other parts that are fantastic, though, I have a nice ass and pretty breasts. I'm fit and have a pretty face. He should be able to see past a little bit of barely noticeable hair, just like I can look past his weight and strange body shape.

>>17347368
This is going to come across as a little feminist, but my reasoning is no one should have to feel obligated to do something this superficial. In the grand scheme of things, a person's accomplishments should speak louder than their appearance. This goes for men and women. I personally would like to spend less time worrying about my appearance and more time working on improving myself and living a fulfilling life. It troubles me that something so superficial could drastically alter my SO's (and any person's) opinion of me, and frankly if this is the case I don't see us being a good fit.

>>17347418
So you came here for us to tell you to drop him?
If you don't care about look then you shouldn't have to look past his weight amd face.
I gave you a middle ground, if you want to break up then just do it, don't try to induce random people on the internet to agree with you.

>>17347475
Weight and body shape*

>>17347475
That's the point I'm making, things that would be considered "turn offs" don't phase me one bit. I'm just hoping for the same behavior from him. He can be immature at times, so I chalk his response up immaturity, but I would like advice on how to bring him around to looking past one small disagreement.

>>17347492
You sound manipulative as fuck.
He is not going to change what he deems attractive because you want him to.
You either get over it or you leave him.

>>17347531
Who says he has to be attracted to 100% of me? You're telling me all the men in this thread would break up with their SO if she didn't shave? Solid relationships reach well below superficial appearance, if a person is so hung up on such an insignificant issue isn't that a huge red flag? Wouldn't it be a red flag for you if a woman disagreed with your hairstyle and threw a fit if you didn't want to change it?

>>17347551
You keep saying it's insignificant but it clearly isn't for either of you.
I'm not going to try to convice you of anything since you don't want to and have your mind already made up.

>>17347353
>>17347395
I hate shaving anything at all, so I absolutely feel your frustration and desire to just go natural and be done with it.

But the simple fact is that he does not consciously choose what arouses and turns him off. You can list countless reasons for why he should not be bothered by your leg hair, but if he's bothered by it that's it. Logic won't get you anywhere.

Having said that I absolutely understand feeling resentful that you look better than him by all means, yet he's still being picky about this detail. I can imagine that that doesn't just feel unfair but also like you must be way more attracted to him than he is to you if it takes a bit of bodyhair to ruin his attraction to you while you can look past extra weight and a less than ideal bodyshape. I can imagine I'd feel the same way... yet he hasn't made the choice to feel the way he does. Basically I don't see another option than for you to break up, tell him to deal with it and hope he doesn't break up, or shave anyway.

>>17347353
You have to understand physical attraction is important in a relationship, personally I dislike shaving/waxing/removing hair in any way, but I still want to be hairless, so I've looked into more permanent methods and I'm trying laser.

Anyway, seems like your problem isn't how to remove your hair, but since you said shaving itself is what bothers you, I'd consider other methods. Try not to get stuck in the "you should be able to look past something you find unattractive" mindset just because.

>>17346970
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I don't have Facebook

>>17347362
theres nothing that can really help with the pain and they can give me a lower version of Viagra but they dont even know if that would help with what happened to me

Reposting from the last thread because I'm retarded and posted too close to the bump limit.

Mainly asking girls, but I'm fine with anyone answering:

I ended up pulling through and getting the phone number of the cute girl in my class. We talked a little for that day and the next, but I haven't texted her since Friday for fear of texting too often (although I don't see the problem with talking every day, what's the deal with that, anyway?). I am going to text her today, but I'm worried about what to say. I want to eventually show her that I'm interested, but she seems really cool and I don't want to ruin the start of the friendship. I guess I'm just asking about conversation topics and approaches.

Also is there a golden range for the amount of time you should text someone? I normally text people until they stop responding, but should I cut it off after a certain amount of time or something?

Thanks again, anons.

>>17347781
I'm a girl. Talking every day with people I get along with is never bothering to me, and actually I've always talked a lot with the people I've liked (and sometimes eventually dated) so dunno why some people are so concerned about that. If I like someone I won't stop liking them because they start conversations often, and if I don't like someone I probably won't like them no matter how often or not they talk to me.

So my advice, just be confident and talk as you normally would. Ask about what the other person is doing, about what you're doing, weekend plans, interests etc. If you happen to come across something interesting or weird on the internet you can link it and discuss it, whatever.

>>17347418
You don't have to, in the strictest terms. But it's something he's requesting. If a woman made a reasonable request such as me handling my hair differently, or to even become more physically active I would listen to what they are saying. Those are not unreasonable requests.

You can kick your feet in the ground and embrace your leg beard nature, but it's still going to be something he actively dislikes. You talk about how he does things you dislike, but you have no room to bring that in considering you haven't asked him to change any of those habits.

Again, relationships are full of things you don't -have- to do. You do them because it's something your partner cares about. You can refuse to address your leg beard, just don't complain when he starts losing attraction. You keep saying this is an insignificant issue, but it's just an insignificant issue for -you-. Some men are indifferent about some physical feature, for others its a major draw of attraction.

Asking grills.

I simply do not understand the appeal of female sexuality...
Not like having sex or how to fuck a girl, I mean the female perspective of sexuality, what they like in a man sexually.

You really like having dick shoved in your mouth?
You enjoy sticking your ass up in the air and shoving your face down while some guy penetrates you over and over again?
You want to be pinned down and fucked relentlessly, even choked, slapped and spanked?

You like being called a whore a dirty slut, being commanded to perform all sorts of seemingly submissive sex acts?

Now I know all girls have different approaches to sex but in general the main theme seems to be utter submission.

Girls want to get fucked, guys want to fuck girls.

I love doing all that stuff to women, I am curious as to how girls reconcile being into sex with the way the role of the girl plays out

Do you just not have a choice and just eventually accept it?
Is it natural? or a conscious decision?

>>17347895
This is a personal opinion and not something general, but.

I like pleasing, I always did. It is not necessarily about being submissive or dominant.
I don't like having a dick shoved in my mouth, I don't get any pleasure from it, but I love looking up at my man and looking at his face. I love sucking his cock and seeing his whole body in absolute pleasure, taking him to the edge of orgasm and slowing down, or just feeling him cum into my mouth. It is one of the most rewarding feelings I can think of.
I like when he gets rough because it makes me feel desired, because I know I teased him to the point he needs to take me.

I don't like humiliation, tho, so I don't particularly enjoy being called names or being commanded to do things. I can agree to do it if it gets my partner off a lot, but it's not something I find sexy myself. I also can take a more dominant role in sex and enjoy it just as much.

To me, it's not really about submission as much as about pleasing. It makes me feel desirable, valued, irresistible, desired.

>>17347895
>in general the main theme seems to be utter submission.
I'm gonna get called all sorts of names for this, but here goes: girls behave that way because they are taught all their lives to be docile and passive to please men, by their parents and society both. Yes, I'm basically saying it's because of muh patriarchy.

>that feeling when you finally find a good gf/bf

After so many failed relationships, it's great to find a humbled girl who knows what she want in life and isn't for any bullshit. And who knew, all it took was talking to women 2~ years my senior. Only 23, but, the difference I've noticed between the mentality of 18-21 year old chicks and 25~28 is almost unreal. Like entering a new world where women are substantially less bitchy and autistic, and actually take life serious. Now I'm not saying all young ladies out there aren't mature in this sense, but, there's an essence you can only have after having lived for so long. Definitely a biological thing.

And girls, I know, guys can be awful too. Worse even. If you decide to date up probably wanna start at 5 years your senior because we are pretty fucking autistic until our late 20s, in most cases.

hi gents,
i'm highly sapiosexual, which is to say that raw sexuality does nothing for me. i can't get sexually excited about someone until i know them, which usually takes a little while. how can i date ethically without "leading them on". my current method is to collect "friends" and if something comes of that np.

>>17347955
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Any chicks here suffer from Paranoid Schizophrenia and Bipolar?
As a guy whose only issue is having anxiety (primarily caused by not knowing what she's thinking when she's suffering - she also suffers from anxiety attacks), what kind of shit should I avoid saying/talking about? I have no idea what it feels like to be with those issues.
She has a past history of a lot of tough shit. If you were in that position, would you prefer I try to help you through those topics, or just let it be? She tends to keep them to herself.

>>17347895
I would not say I'm particularly dominate, though unlike the other guy put it, I'm certainly not submissive because it is a social standard.

Now on to the next; this isn't a general thing. Female sexuality is broad, not every girl likes what you mentioned. You worded it as if it is degrading in some way, but, it's sex.. There is no shame in it. And if there was, why the hell do guys want girls to do it for them so much? I never had a mindset that what I was doing was somehow immoral, and honestly it turns me on a great deal having my boyfriend ram me from behind and I will never be able to explain to you why it does. Maybe it is the dominance aspect, but I love that he's making me feel good and that its mutual. It's about complicity. Sex for most people is very personal, I can't even imagine wanting to do most of the shit in my head with anyone but a guy I'm genuinely in love with. But women, who like men, are turned on by men. And these are aspects of sex, foreplay, for example is me sucking a dick. I could easily say, "men, you like licking a pussy that is occasionally covered in so much blood it requires a whole bath to clean?". Don't make this egoistic, sex can be equally demeaning for both male and females with the right rhetoric. You're thinking about it way to hard anyways, you can't just enjoy being able to fuck a girl and seeing that ass from behind?

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>>17347955
Fuck off homo

>>17347972
My ex girl was schizophrenic and bipolar, she took lithium and a lot of other stuff.

First off, they are as fragile as a newborn egg. And with her, one mistake was all it took for me to ruin our relationship and make her think nothing of me. It was insane how quickly she went from loving me to absolutely repulsed by me, I was so confused.

I'd say if your genuinely interested in their wellbeing then most of them won't mind your support, just don't be one of those "well maybe you should.." Kind of people because they can get offended as if you told a parent of a kid with cancer what THEY could do for THEIR child. Don't worry too much about it, just use common sense.

>>17347949
This post is utterly retarded.
For sure, on average younger people are less mature than older people and they have less life experience. Great, it is not rocket science.
When you're talking about dating, tho, each person has to be considered itself. You don't date an age group, you date one single person out of that age group, and they differ greatly between each other.
I am 23. I dated an amazingly mature and stable 20 year old. I dated a borderline autistic 27 year old. Right now I am dating a 31 year old who is my personal 10/10.

>there's an essence you can only have after having lived for so long. Definitely a biological thing.
Cringe.

>tl;dr - Fuck off.

>>17346925
Do any of you guys use any dating sites to hook up? I've been off of them for a while after a few bad dates in a row. But now I'm just looking for a girl to smoke weed with and fuck, whats my best bet for this

So I met up with this girl from tinder, she we went to the same high school (now in college). She recognized me and said she'd seen me around. We met up for lunch a week ago and we are meeting up again this week but I can't tell if these are dates or just friendly hang outs. Any advice?

>>17347924
Your explanation about the rough aspect was enlightening, although I would ask you if you can really tell when the guy is rough out of desire or out of simply wanting to be rough with a girl he is fucking because being rough gets him off.
Cool to see how you don't even acknowledge the inehrent submissiveness since it jsut isnt there in your mind.
>>17347977
>You worded it as if it is degrading in some way, but, it's sex.. There is no shame in it. And if there was, why the hell do guys want girls to do it for them so much?
Right here is telling. YOu see many guys think liek I do, we don't understand why or how girls like doing all that stuff and to us it is degrading and shameful, but if we can get a girl to do it for our dicks it is that much more of an ego boost.
And we all know that getting girls is one of the main forms of validation and ego for men.

You not being to explain why you like doing these things makes me wonder if
>>17347947
is right.

You can make an argument for sexacts to be less hygenic for the male but never more invasive or intentionally uncomfortable.

Licking a pussy doesnt compare to have a entire penis filling your mouth and throat.

I kidn of get the feeling from these post that both of you girls really just like being fucked, which is natural, but I and probably you can see the inherent submissiveness in that statement.

Do you have something against admitting that you enjoy being dominated and submitting to a strong attractive male?

>>17348001
Spoken like a true retarded insecure 20 year old womanlet kek

Get your shit together champ

>>17348086
Kek

>>17348085
>muh ego
So you're an insecure manchild. If you need this much validation yet still question the women who give it to you, you may need to seek professional help. At least spare the women who want a man that isn't an utter fucking garbage disposal.

>>17347949
>young girls are retarded
No shit, just like how all women lose 90% of their sexual appeal at age 21, they smarten up quicker than men. Cause they need us more than we need them and they know most guys would rather chase young Pussy than settle down. That said, never try to wife up a young bitch because that's the quickest way to get your first divorce

>>17348095
what?
Do you even know what the ego is?
Or do you have some 4chan internet interpretation of ego?
There is literally no man on the planet who doesn't get an ego boost from sex.

Literally all im trying to do is get femlae perspective on female sexuality and you are whiteknighting?
What the fuck is your problem, you dont have to flame on this site you know?

Girls:How long does it take for you to get over a crush on someone? Is there any way for me to make her lose interest in me really fast without committing social suicide?

>>17348106
Nigga you crazy

>>17348085
>but if we can get a girl to do it for our dicks it is that much more of an ego boost.
>And we all know that getting girls is one of the main forms of validation and ego for men.

So girls do those things to please guys, and guys are pleased that girls do those, which causes girls to keep doing them, and so on and so far.

As for the validation thing, who decided that? Shouldn't women feel validated too if it was something biological rather than societal?

Feminists and sjws are a joke for the most part, but a broken clock is right twice a day

>>17347949
>the difference I've noticed between the mentality of 18-21 year old chicks and 25~28 is almost unreal. Like entering a new world where women are substantially less bitchy and autistic, and actually take life serious.
I'm 24 and surrounded by people rarely older than 21 because I started college late.

Send help.

>>17348112

Robot here.

You just have to creep here out, it's actually really easy.

>without committing social suicide?
Ouch.

Well, challenge mode it is then.
Okay, first, get pokemon go or whatever that shit is called.
It's socially acceptable at the minute, however games in public = autism, and you'll look like a manchild to a woman.
Secondly, be desperate. Literally, be her slave but never actually ask her out or make a move. This will hopefully make her see you as a "nice guy".
The last one is a bit of a risk. The 'confession'. "Hey, I.. erm, just... I... this is hard... I think I'm in love with you...so, yeah... there's that...". Considering she likes you, it's high risk but high reward. A sudden confession like that can easily put alot of girls off.

Worst comes to worst, social suicide may be a necessary risk. In which case, the quickest exit is to let her catch you wearing ladies underwear.

Girlfriend has schizophrenia, broke up with me because she doesn't want to hurt me in the long run. She hasn't told me it's the reason related to her mental issues, but I assume it's because of heavy self doubt. She's told me she's not worthy of me.
If I stay her friend, what's the chance of us getting back together if I try to reinforce that she's fine over time?

>>17348166
Forgot to mention she still has heavy feelings for me. We were close as fuck until just last week, then it seemed like a switch just flipped and she begun having anxiety I attacks, I assume.

>>17348166
Sounds like a super unhealthy relationship. Honestly if you keep being her friend I'd just shelve the idea of dating for now, and encourage her to seek professional help and rebuild a sense of self esteem. I mean it could go either way, but if you have dating as a background focus it could easily make things worse.

>>17346925
if you have crush on a guy , add him on facebook , text him first and set up date why wouldn't you reply to his message for 24 hours and just put " seen" ?

>>17348155
>Okay, first, get pokemon go or whatever that shit is called.
>It's socially acceptable at the minute, however games in public = autism, and you'll look like a manchild to a woman.
She's seen me play DQ8 months ago, so I don't that'll be very effective.
>Secondly, be desperate. Literally, be her slave but never actually ask her out or make a move. This will hopefully make her see you as a "nice guy".
>The last one is a bit of a risk. The 'confession'. "Hey, I.. erm, just... I... this is hard... I think I'm in love with you...so, yeah... there's that...". Considering she likes you, it's high risk but high reward. A sudden confession like that can easily put alot of girls off.
These are both essentially social suicide since she's the sister of a good friend of mine so people would know.

I'm honestly considering hanging out with my friends less just because every time I see her I feel off for the next 2-3 days and it sucks.

>>17347353
>i dont like shaving my legs a thing that takes 15-20 minutes out of my day waaaaaaaaahhhh
>Ewwww why is your crotch so hairy, gross you REALLY need to shave it
Not saying this is you but it does happen.

Girls: have you ever wanted to be with someone but can't because of anxiety?

The girl I'm talking about has dated before but her last relationship was particularly bad and she's always been iffy about them to begin with according to her.

I want to help her with her anxiety because i know she won't go to a therapist and I am also pretty sure I know how to help her get over it.

The only problem is I figured this out too late and she associates me with her anxiety now. I doubt she's lying because she acts really weird and all of our friends have noticed not just me.

I also don't want her to think I'm helping her get over her anxiety just so I can fuck her. I mainly want to because I know she's not happy and it bothers me because I might have made her worse before I knew she had these problems and before I studied it.

>>17347353
You're not required to shave your legs.

And he's not required to find your lazy lack of grooming standards attractive.

>>17347895
>You really like having dick shoved in your mouth?
Yes.
>You enjoy sticking your ass up in the air and shoving your face down while some guy penetrates you over and over again?
Yes.
>You want to be pinned down and fucked relentlessly, even choked, slapped and spanked?
Yes.
>You like being called a whore a dirty slut, being commanded to perform all sorts of seemingly submissive sex acts?
Lol, not so much the slut/whore thing, but yes to the submissive part.

>Do you just not have a choice and just eventually accept it?
You say it like it's a bad thing. I love being a sub. I love having my bf dominate me. It's fucking hot. I don't give a shit if it's a nature or nurture thing that determines why I love being what a feminist would call "degraded." I get pleasure from it, and my bf gets pleasure from it, so it's great.

Guys how the fuck do I stop my ass and inner thigh around my sack and ass area from getting sweaty during sex?
Makes me uncomfortable because it gets pretty damn sweaty especially during a bj when I'm clinching my asscheeks together cause it's so good

Serious question

>>17348153
This was actually my problem. In my college there arent that many older women. the ones I have met from my classes though, they make me feel ashamed for the teenage bitches in the same room. You might get lucky, if not, best bet is meeting chicks through friends or social gatherings. Something wholesome, not a wild party or some shit.

>>17346925
Gf of almost 2 years broke up with me and said it wasn't my fault, she loves me and its life circumstances etc. Anyway, I'm tired of being treated like shit and emotionally there for her and I have no desire to be just be friends after the fact. No contact rule is in effect, however I think I'm fucking up. Started a tumblr in the beginning because she had one and I realized she can see my posts but I don't nessisarily want to block her. Am I breaking no contact by keeping this open? or am I cool as long as nothing I post is relationship related?

>>17348461
Tumblr is a waste of your time. If you want to move on, stop engaging in such self-pitying activities and do something productive.

>>17348423
Thanks for the mental image...
Shaving reduces sweat a lot as hair is there to keep you warm
Drinking more water can lower your body temperature
Exercise helps too

That's all i can think of but none of these will have a dramatic effect; there isn't much that can be done to sweat less as it is vital for your body to function well.

>>17348461
>I'm a guy with a tumblr account

Found your problem. She didn't want to date a faggy numale.

>>17348469
For the record, I'm not even fat, which makes this all that much worse. Like I'm a literal sticklet, but I sweat horribly, everywhere, when it's hot, or when I'm having sex, or exercising. Maybe it's just my body. Fuck this body. I mean I have good hygiene so that's not the issue, it just gets the covers wet so I usually put a towel out when I have sex

>>17348468
Honestly I just kept it to see funny shit and gun stuff. You're right though I need to keep off of it or at least stop posting.
>>17348486
ebin

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Females, honest first looks impressions? Stereotypes, positives/negatives?

I usually wear long sleeve clothing as regular wear cause my veins pop out.

>>17348491
Put deodorant where you don't want to sweat.

Be careful though cause there are parts that need to be able to be lubed up otherwise you'll hurt her.

>>17348454
>You might get lucky
I really doubt that'll happen considering there are maybe two women in most of my higher level classes. Let alone you know, a woman actually my age.

> if not, best bet is meeting chicks through friends or social gatherings. Something wholesome, not a wild party or some shit.
Yeah, trying to play that angle but not much success yet. Currently trying to find a club or something to branch out, but not too much luck on that front.

>>17348495
Jesus, man. Are you 7' tall?

Do any of you guys use any dating sites to hook up? I've been off of them for a while after a few bad dates in a row. But now I'm just looking for a girl to smoke weed with and fuck, whats my best bet for this?

>>17348514
Sounds like you're looking for druggie sluts. Try tinder.

>>17348519
I have, but I think I don't come across as into those kinds of girls

>>17348522
Try /soc/ meet up threads, then. There are plenty of druggie sluts on /soc/.

>>17348505
Have you looked into http://www.meetup.com ?

It's NOT some hookup or dating site, to the contrary, and this is to your benefit. It's a site that promotes various types of meet ups for virtually everything, knitting, baking, hiking, gaming, happy hour, literally anything you can think of. Even dating meetups, but that's a little direct. Best bet would be to go to a meetup that isn't a "singles" meetup, just something for an activity like a movie, bowling, team soccer, simple shit. In most cases you can see the profiles of the people who are going, which can, in some events be up to hundred or more people. With this you can not only meet new women, but ones who are specifically interested in something you are too.

I recommend this because I've met tons of great, 24+ girls on this site through meet ups. It's a lot more professional than you may think, but of course we manipulate it to use for this purpose while most people probably aren't thinking like us. It exposes you to a lot of girls at once, and in most cases these people don't know each other at all so you don't have to feel left out. Go with a friend cause a lot of chicks go with groups, for obvious reasons.

>>17348509
like 5'9"
also on a temporary 12lb cut in this picture for reasons.

>>17348495
Would look like slenderman in clothing/10

>>17347955
uhhh lead them on for a while. you never really owe someone sex for any reasons. i mean just don't go to someones place for netflix and chill and then get really upset when they try to have sex with you. get good at defusing a sexual situation?

for most dudes going to their place can be sign enough so just get to know them on dates for a while, 3rd date rule used to be a thing you know.

>>17348223
theres not a good way of doing this other than just letting it happen and being clear about not liking her whenever it comes up. don't play up your strengths in a narcissistic obsession with having people love you like i do... that doesn't help...

>>17348545
>Have you looked into http://www.meetup.com ?
Tried to, but it seems to be mostly full of stuff like poly/50+ dating and hiking. Never really saw anything that caught my interest, but I'll try to give it another go.

thread is all dudes

24, soon to be 25, virgin from r9k. Is it too late for me? I'm reasonably attractive, and have a college degree, if that matters.

>>17348902
Your problem isn't your age, it's the fact that you're a self-conscious faggot

>>17348902
Basically >>17348904. And the fact that you can't read the OP.

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>>17348495
you have a very similar body to my bf
got me excited/10

but honestly, you have a great body. there's nothing i don't like about it.

>>17348904
So basically have confidence brah?
>>17348911
OP was vague, I was under the impression anything 20+ would cause women to flee in disgust.
Though spending time in the pit of despair and self-loathing that is r9k might have influenced me.

>>17347353
BTW, you should bring up your distaste for your SO's style. It's good to be sincere.

>>17346996
It's extremely simple. Making the first move is stressful and difficult. Women don't want to deal with it so they force it all onto you.

You know how they say you shouldn't trust a leader who expects to you "Do as I say not as I do"? Well all women are that leader. They're perfectly comfortable with forcing you to suffer the stress so she doesn't have to. They're perfectly comfortable forcing you to pay for every date so she doesn't have to. They're perfectly comfortable letting you drown on the sinking ship so she doesn't have to.

It should really show people just how women really view men. They just see them as tools to be used for their own benefit. And as long as there's a huge pool of stupid desperate men who have been raised and brainwashed their whole lives to put up with this unfair standard, it's never going to change because women sure as hell don't want it to.

I have this friend, lets call her Alice, Im a guy. Me and Alice get along so well, almost to the point where people are surprised we're not together. We've never dated, never even tried, have never liked her that way or anything, and I'm pretty sure she doesnt either(but i could be wrong). She is attractive but for some reason "that" never happened and I'm okay with that.

We have incredibly chemistry, we seem to understand each other so well, whenever we hangout(its a group of us 5 people) we always have the most fun and bounce jokes and ideas and conversations off each other.

On my birthday we went out to get dinner(the 5 of us), and she said something to me almost privately that I have not gotten over. I forget what we were talking about but it eventually led to her touching my hand, moving closer and saying "you're my soulmate", as she said this her eyes watered and she looked away as if she was drying her eyes.

My reaction was to laugh and agree, but then I noticed the tears and it fucked me up.
We've known each other since highschool, so 10+ years, shes in a committed long term relationship, yet she still said something so serious to me. Im confused, did/does she like me? What the fuck, have I been this oblivious? Its strange because I dont really feel that way to her until she said those words, I had never considered her. Now I feel regret, regret at the what if, maybe we are perfect for each other, maybe she is/was the one. You just dont go around saying someones your soulmate

>>17349127
I don't know if she like-likes you, but there's definitely something else going on there (unless she was drunk when she said it). However, it may just be that she feels that the two of you really mesh well together, rather than an indication that she wants to date you. What do you think of her?

>>17349213
Shes really cool, interesting, fun loving, compassionate, pretty as well - however I've never felt that romantically inclined towards her, she's been in a lot of relationships since we've met so I guess I placed her in the "just friends" box. I never really considered being with her, but after she said that it spooked me, maybe I was blind? I remember she once called me "her favorite" (favorite what? idk) at the time I thought it was just a joke. When she said it she had one beer so I doubt she was piss drunk

Ladies, how long in a relationship would you start feel weird that I hadn't already told you that you're my first relationship? I'm in my early twenties.

>>17349389

That is, how long does it take before it gets odd that I have not informed you of this. Or alternately how soon would you prefer to know this?

>>17349391
That would require you to find one first, buddy. And from the way you talk certainly doesn't sound like that's gonna happen any time soon.

Girls: Is ice skating a good first date?

>>17349389
Not sure if I can answer this properly because I would ask for previous experiences very soon and would not be amused if I was lied to. But I'd wager, not having told this either before getting together or within a month of getting together is odd. To me that is. It would make me feel like the guy didn't trust me.

>>17349585
Absolutely. It's a fun environment, you can laugh at yourself and/or others, you have ability to talk while also having something active to focus on, and there's lots of natural options to break the touch barrier.

>>17349127
Yeah, it sounds to me like she's into you. And probably sensed that you never felt that way towards her, if you're quite close and socially sensitive it's not hard to feel when that kind of interest isn't there.

Ladies: I'm a pretty quiet guy, not spaghetti spilling though. Girl where I work has been talking to me a lot recently, gives nice smiles too. Stopped me on my way out tonight and asked me what days I work. We don't work for the same company so all I can think is she wanted me to ask her out. I was exhausted so I didn't think about it.

Am I overthinking shit again or have I fucked up?

>>17349613
Nah, seems promising, give it a shot. The worst that can happen is that she turns you down and realizes later that she gave the wrong impression.

>>17349613
Stop overthinking and next time you see her, just ask her out on a date. If that was the case then I'm sure she'll be positive about it, and even if not I doubt she'll assault you or something about it.

Just get over your hesitance and do it.

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>>17346925

How does being fucked in the vagina feel like?
Do you have a g spot inside?
Where is it?
How much of your vaginal wall feels pleasure or are they mostly sensation-less?
Have you ever felt curious about having the opposite gender's bits?

>>17349647
>Have you ever felt curious about having the opposite gender's bits?
I wish to be the little girl

I'm not sure if my feelings in this situation are validated.

My girlfriend is very irresponsible and forgetful. She'll forget to call or text me back often, which is fine. People have lives. She went out the night before we were supposed to do something early the next morning and she overslept and we missed the event. Whatever, I got over it. We were supposed to meet today, but she lets me know this morning she forgot she had plans with a friend today and then cancels our plans. I got a little upset and said I felt she doesn't care about our plans when she forgets things. It admittedly hurts because I honestly feel that way sometimes. Am I overreacting like a little bitch or am I justified in being a little upset?

>>17349689
Women will say you are wrong, men will say you are right.
That's what happens 95% of the time here

>>17349689
You are overreacting a bit. Whoever you date, they will always have flaws and you'll have to deal with them. Don't take it personally.
However you have every reason to try and improve this situation.

My boyfriend has the attention span of a retarded goldfish. If I text him and he doesn't reply/call me back, I text him after 20/30 mintues "You're not replying". We review his plans for the week every monday morning and then every evening I ask him what he's going to do tomorrow. He started bullet journaling and we do it together.
It's a bit stressful for me, but at least I don't get mad anymore.

Girls:
I texted a girl on tinder and we talked about our college courses and dancing and i asked her about a coffee date quite fast, she declined and said she doesnt meet up so fast with people. What to do going onwards? What do you general mean when you decline a date that way?

>>17349689
She doesn't care enough about you. When I'm with a guy, he becomes one of my top priorities. I focus in on building a bond with him. I can see my friends whenever during the week, and texting my boyfriend back takes like 3 seconds because texts are extremely minimal effort things to send.

Of course I've got work/school/stress at home, and I'm very forgetful (ie: like I forget people's names or an entire project I'm supposed to be working on) but I still push myself to stay in contact with my guy because I'm really into him.

>>17349771
That sounds less like 'the attention span of a retarded goldfish' and more like your bf has some kind of mental retardation/learning disabilities.

>>17348967
Girls aren't going to automatically know you are a virgin, bruh. Also yeah, stop going to /r9k/.

>>17349078
"I've never been loved" the post.

>>17349803
We stay in contact fairly often. She claims she forgot she made plans with her friend until the morning we were supposed to hang out. My mindset is that if she cared enough, she would remember things about us, or make a conscious effort to do things.

>>17349820
You say you stay in contact fairly often; but in your original post you said she'll just forget to text you, that's confusing. If she texts you every day, then that shouldn't be a problem..

How often does she forget your plans, or is this just happening now?

Do women just have no perception of time or does my girlfriend just have no respect for me?

>we arrange to meet up at 4
>it's hot as hell out
>her mother is in the bathroom when she goes to get ready
>change time to 4:30
>I tell her I'm gonna go head out to do something and I'll be at her apartment around 4:30
>I do that, she isn't responding to my messages and I'm practically right outside her apartment
>around 5 she responds that she was doing something else (not urgent) but will start getting ready now
>she says she'll need 15 minutes to get ready
>I say "Jesus" because I've already been waiting in the heat for a half an hour
>she gets angry about that and tells me I can just go home, also got angry when I asked her to be quick with getting ready

>>17349831
We talk every day, but she'll say "I'll call/text you in a bit", and I won't hear from her for hours. It's happened twice in the past few weeks. And just other minor things too that I've forgiven. I don't want to keep forgiving things because she'll think it's okay to keep doing it. We've only been dating a few months so far.

>>17349833
For a bit of background she's almost always late for everything and anything. Nearly every time I go to pick her up (by foot) I have to wait outside her apartment for at least 5 minutes

>>17349843
When I say it happened twice, I mean forgetting plans or the oversleeping thing. She's just so fucking irresponsible and it hurts me when she does these things.

>>17349833
>>17349844
Sounds normal. She can be a little more considerate, though.

Thanks all for the advice about shaving my legs. Last night we had a discussion about it, where he brought up the sacrifices he's made for our relationship, and asked that I please do the same on this matter. With that in mind, I agreed to shave, even though it goes against my principles, for him. I'm sad I won't be able to live how I like, but glad to be moving past this matter. Maybe in another couple years, when our pheromones have died down and he has less sex on the brain, I can stop shaving again.

>>17349068
I have brought it up, but he likes it so I'm not going to demand he change it. We are adults, he can make his own decisions on things like this even if I don't agree with them

>>17348227
I agree with the point you're making, it's unfair to demand something from your SO that you're unwilling to do yourself.

>>17349843
Do you know what she's doing during those hours? Is she working, told you she's with friends, etc? And you can't keep anything inside - when something bothers you in a relationship you HAVE to say it. Otherwise she will think everything is okay and not understand why you're upset.

>>17349885
When she's working or with friends or doing something, I understand the silence. But a lot of these times, she's just at home. She doesnt really check her phone a lot. Im not as upset at her not texting back quickly as I am about her forgetting or oversleeping for our plans.

>>17349833
Yeah that's normal. Instead of leaving after she became 'angry' you should have stayed and talked things out. She probably became truly upset when you just gave up and left. Like shit, you're a guy; all you got to do is roll out of bed, put on some semi clean clothes, and make sure you have a few dollars in your pocket to buy your girl an ice cream so she's happy.

She probably takes a lot of pride in looking good for you if she takes that much fucking time. And she's got a bitch mom who takes over the bathroom when she knows her daughter wants to go out.

Would you rather her be the kind of girl who goes out looking like a heroin addict because she don't give a shit how she looks like in front of you - you, specifically.

>>17349904
Dunno, id prefer a girl that doesnt need to spend so much time getting ready, plans ahead so she idnt late or is able to skip it when the situation demands it.

>>17349900
Then you need to tell her that you're upset about it, so she can change the behavior.

Has anyone taken back a cheating ex?

Found out 5 months ago ex had cheated on me 4 times with a guy who used to be a best friend.

I left her and have been with 4 people since. Nothing serious obviously

Now she's back in the picture again. She claims she's sorry and that she was confused/emotionally lost. Realized what she lost, is in pain w/o me and that i'm the love of her life etc...

Just curious? Anyone with experience?

>>17349928
Then tell her that. Jesus, what is with everyone today and just not communicating with the person they're into?

>>17349968
Don't. If she did it once, she can do it again.

>Girl outta no where starts liking all of my shit.
>Even old shit
>tryingnottotakethisasasign.jpg
>Hit her up, get number
>Remember I'm a shitty texter

what do

>>17349968
>Has anyone taken back a cheating ex?
Only the stupidest and most desperate people

>>17346925
23 male here I'm considering asking out a girl I know shes 18 shy and very conservative. Whenever I talk to her she seems to spill her spaghetti. Now as far as I know shes never been In a relationship before and neither have I. Does this sound like a bad idea/how much potential is there for things to go bad?

>>17348155
>tfw I do/have done everything you mentioned and haven't had a gf in 5 years, going on 6.

I want off this wild ride.

>>17346925
When is the best time to message a girl and expect an answer

>>17347781
I'm almost in the exact same situation as you and I've found out that the best thing to do is just text her whenever you feel like you have something to say. She won't get annoyed unless she already doesn't like you.

24 F, asking both guys and gals but (shy?)guys opinions are ideal!

Been on a couple dates with a dude - both times dates ended with hugs. He texts me constantly and tells me I'm cute, so I don't doubt he's interested... how do I make it clear I'm open to more than just a hug? Or that I want more? What signs do you look for when deciding to go for the kiss or for a hug? (Those are all kind of one question, just phrasing it differently for clarification)

Second question: if it's a case of him being too shy or lacking the confidence, would me making the first move go over well? I'm never really the type that initiates but I will if I have to! We're supposed to hang and watch a movie together but if the hugging is any indication I have an idea of how it might go if I don't do something myself

>>17350054
I'm a shy guy but I'm so shy that I can't really help you with the first one as I have zero dating experience

But I can tell you I'd probably appreciate it if the girl made the first move, if I were him. Especially if he has an okay amount of experience with women IRL but still happens to be shy (I do think there's a chance I would be put off by a girl being assertive as I am a kissless virgin but I'm not sure)

>>17350054
Well, you know the guy better than we do. It could simply be that he is shy, but it could also be that he's conservative and likes to take things slowly. Again, you know him better than we do.

Depending on the type of guy, you can employ different strategies. The next time your date ends in a hug, maintain your arms on him, keep eye contact for a couple of seconds silently, then move your hands to the back of his head. He should get the message; if he doesn't, pull his head a little. If he has a good sense of humor, you can just say "so, are you going to kiss me, or what?"

If he's conservative and slow, you might just need to be patient.

>>17349974
What is it with people assuming everybody replying is the same person?

>>17350087
>>17350088

Thank you both for the replies! I have a tendency to over-think things so even just typing it out helped me a bit. I'll absolutely keep the hug-into-kiss thing in mind!

Any tips on how to nudge it in the right direction if we're watching a show or something together? I know it sounds stupid, but I don't think I've ever dated a guy who is afraid of initiating, and I've kind of taken it for granted, heh.

For guys: I want to know what was going on in his brain. Preface: I'm neither upset nor offended, just perplexed.

>go hiking with platonic guy friend from a hostel I stayed at, known him about a month
>we just like having a buddy to explore with, can be more fun than solo
>he hits on me a lot and checks me out, I don't mind, I've clearly said I'm not interested and not attracted to him and he understands that
>out late, we crash at my place at his request
>I can't sleep, just laying on my side
>he starts touching my body and undressing me
>starts rubbing his dick on my ass, touching my asshole and tits
>he thinks I am asleep, I keep pretending to be because I'm curious
>eventually ask him what he's doing
>he rolls over and stops, but then starts jacking off like 15 mins later
>I'm still not asleep
>he finishes
>I ask if he just masturbated, he is surprised and admits yes
>I ask if he cleaned up properly and says he did
>I know there is nothing like a tissue around and he didn't get up to grab anything
>major concern is where he put the cum

Could he have used his dirty clothes as a cum rag? Where did he cum? I didn't find any on my person nor on my bedding. Also why do guys think they're slick? I don't mind that he relieved himself but like bro did you think I wouldn't notice?

>>17350054
If he's shy give him a little peck on the cheek after the end of your next date. I know it sounds kind of lame, but it lets him know your'e open to something more, and its not too heavy handed.

My boyfriend is a lying, cheating, manipulative asshole and won't fucking admit to anything no matter what I do or say, no matter how many inconsistencies I find in his lies or how hard I press. Every time I threaten to leave, he always says, "Believe what you want." It works surprisingly well.

Recently, I found out that he'd hit on his "friend" pretty hardcore ("anyone ever told you that you have the softest ass and the most kissable lips?"), he'd kissed her on the cheek apparently multiple times and cuddled (or tried to) her. I was furious, so I confronted him about it, and there was this HUGE silence, like he was trying to come up with a passable answer (This happens a lot whenever I confront him about things like this). I got sick of waiting for him to give me an answer, so I packed up my shit and almost left. He stopped me, telling me that his friend was super drunk had had a breakdown about an STD that she had. The whole kissing and cuddling were apparently attempts to "comfort" her, he had told her that he had HIV, which he does.

What he sent her didn't sound anything like he was trying to comfort her. She had asked "So what happened last night?"

His response: "I kissed you on the cheek quite a few times and tried to warm myself next to you (something about cuddling, I can't remember the exact words). lol"

Alongside this, apparently he's been hanging out with this chick and has lied to me by omission about it. This is especially concerning considering that they have history before me. I've found other things that I've confronted him about which he's denied, but this happens to be the incident that hurts the worst of all.

I reaaaally want to leave him, because I'm so sick of this shit, but I can't. Every time I try to he always says all the right things and makes me feel so loved. This hurts so fucking much though, I'm not sure what to do. He never confesses even under ultimatums.

The worst part is, I love him so much. I love him more than anything,

>>17350156
It's funny how easy it is to manipulate broken bitches

>>17346996

Why is it a big deal to message the girl? Why do you find sending a "hey" to be so difficult? I mean, I could ask why guys expect women to cook more often, or you expect blowjobs, etc. Gender roles are a two way street. Just send the fucking message and stop being a pussy. Also, that's your answer, it's a pussy filter.

>>17347353
>I'm tempted to bring up the fact there are things I don't prefer about him

I think that's valid to bring up. Strike a bargain. You shave your legs, he dresses better and takes your fashion advice. My ex dressed like shit and it really annoyed me, so I understand where you are coming from. Protip men: stop wearing basketball shorts oh my fucking god and turn your hat the right way. But no anon you're right, it is common courtesy, give and get.

>>17347781

Texting a guy you've never met for a long period of time is simply annoying. At some point, maybe a day or two in depending on text frequency, you should ask to meet up.

>>17347895

Stop watching porn. Read women's romance books if you want to know what girls like in a man.

>>17350142
He sounds like a huge freak, I doubt most guys would act this way. I literally cannot comprehend what was going on in his brain.

Seriously what the fuck

>>17350156
You're loving something that clearly doesnt love you enough back. Relationships are a two player game, when one player breaks the rules, you should quit, or they'll get the best of you. No matter how much you love the game, you'll never win when the other person cheats.

This might not be cheating per se, but its high risk behavior and he knows you don't like it and doesn't seem to knock the shit. He's controlling you and you let him.

Take charge and play a new game, or lose every time.

>>17350156
Read what you just wrote back to yourself and ask yourself what you would tell a female friend to do if she was in that situation.

The answer should be "I'd tell her to pack her shit and leave." This is what you should do. If you're scared you'll get sweet talked back into it, do it when he's gone. Take time off work if it clashes with his schedule. You know you're weak. You admit you're weak. Instead of letting his manipulative shit take advantage of that, be smart. Don't be dumb and weak - be smart and weak.

>>17348112

Just tell her you aren't interested and leave it at that. Her private thoughts should not bother you, so why do you care?

>>17348495

Would fuck. Nice otter mode.

>>17348514
>smoke weed with

Kill yourself, degenerate.

>>17350175
>caring that a random stranger on the internet likes to smoke weed

honestly you're the one who needs to kill yourself

>>17348902
see>>17348904

I don't care if a guy is a virgin, but she won't know unless you tell her, why even point it out? If you don't want it to be a big deal don't make it a big deal.

>>17349127

Yes she liked you. Stop being an autist, message her, and ask her out. Communication.

>>17349389

I wouldn't need to know. If you want to tell me alright, but you can keep it to yourself if you'd rather. Date in the present, the person's past doesn't matter if you enjoy each other's company.

>>17349585

Maybe, but some girls hate ice skating. It is dangerous you know. Ask her.

>>17349613

She may be interested, but it may be wondering for convenience/work purposes as well, so don't jump the gun. You have to interpret, I can't see every interaction you've ever had.

>>17349647

Mind blowingly incredible, where your brain shuts down and all you can think about is how incredibly good it feels. Unless the guy is bad, then you're just annoyed and disappointed, like blueballs.

>>17349689

That's justified. I'm incredibly forgetful but believe if you make plans, you keep them. It's polite. She's in the wrong and doesn't prioritize you.

>>17349782

She's a weirdo. If you have options take other options. She's gonna waste your time and has a bunch of mental issues, probably thinks all men are rapists or some shit.

>>17349833

She's a bitch and doesn't respect you. Dump her.

>>17350162

I am honestly fine with it as long as he didn't actually put the dick in me. I'm pretty laid back about stuff. But it would have been more normal to get up and jack it in the bathroom, right? I mean, I would notice waking up with my pants down revealing my ass and my shirt up exposing my tits. I don't understand why he thought I wouldn't have noticed. And I am freaked out about where the cum went. I'm a cleanliness autist.

Girls: Is it weird to ask a girl from work to come play some ultimate Frisbee with me over facebook? Not really looking for a relationship or anything. Just trying to make more friends and become more normal.

>>17350246
I don't think it's weird, no - not unless you think you've been perceived as trying to hit on her in the past and she was against it. That's the only time she might think it's "weird."

Try to ask in a way that it's clear it's a group thing and ask if she has any friends she'd wanna bring too!

>small college course, everyone knows each other, finals week comes around
>girl in course looks exhausted, slumped shoulders, quieter than usual, she's usually overly upbeat and involved in things
>"Hey *blank*, you doing alright? You're looking tuckered."
>Immediately get set upon by her friends

Literally what? Normally I'm not a social retard, but did I cross some normal social boundary I'm unaware of?

Fellow guys, do excessive masturbation affects negatively your sex drive? last weekend I've met a girl that for some reason made me exceptionally horny, so between that night and yesterday I fapped like a dozen times, and today I felt sttangely socially awkward and shy. its normal?

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Either gender:

Long story short I had some problems in life and im 25 finishing my degree may 2017. I have to live at home with parents to pay out of pocket for school while working part time during the year and full time during the summer.

Ive been saving money to move out right after i finish school so I can start my life.

When I was younger I was unattractive and poor, once I was about 18 I guess the gym and puberty made me good looking. I've never been on a date though, because well live at home and poor. My family isn't poor they, very well off...just they think i'm really stupid so they don't help me financially. Im honestly surprised i haven't been kicked out yet.

So basically Ive been waiting to date when i have a decent job and have my own place, but im mid 20's. I have no experience dating and was wondering what to do and how bad of a position im in as far as my dating life. I think i might want to be married, but no kids. I still feel very disadvantaged though due to my lack of experience.

I know girls are attracted to me and I can tell since im friendly and talk to them. I feel so bad because i can see they want me to make a move, but i have nothing to offer due to my situation.

Advice, lol?
sorry for grammar/spelling.

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How do i tell my bf to not buy me flowers? I know, it's very cute. I like the thought behind it. But he buys fucking expensive bouquets frequently (about 70$ every 2 weeks) and i'd rather have him spend that on doing something together or just not use so much money for flowers that will go into the trash 5 days later. How do i tell him that without him feeling rejected? I know i'm an ungrateful bitch. I do like flowers. But he doesn't earn THAT much and it seems excessive

>>17350308
Wait until he fucks up. He'll either get you flowers or a stuffed animal, so it's 50/50.

>>17350312
What? I already told him to never get me stuffed animals

>>17350314
Flowers it is!

>>17350320
I don't get what your point is...

>>17350308
>>17350312
>>17350314
>>17350320
Actually, ignore me. I just woke up, and I'm still illiterate; I misread your post. I'll shut up now.

>>17350308
maybe hes stealing them
i used to steal flowers for my gfs when i was young and broke

>>17350328
Kek
>>17350334
Nope. I know where he gets them and it's a friend of him that runs the flower shop (no, he doesn't get a discount)

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>>17350288
Why would your parents want to kick you out if you're due to graduate college next year and you've been working, etc.? Is there more to that?

Anyone who has brains doesn't mind a college student living with their parents, and if they do, they are short-term people and don't deserve the rewards you can offer long-term.

I know that's not what you asked, but .. I feel giving you advice now is pointless in regards to dating. Finish up your studies and worry about that shit then.

>>17348011
Ask her. Nobody here knows what she's thinking.

>>17348423
Anti perspirant inbetween your ass cheeks. Works wonders.

>>17348584
Fucking manlet.

>>17350344
Kick me out because im fucking 25 and in college lol. I can feel they are not very pleased with me. I made deans list last semester and Im proud of myself since my courses were all programming and math so its not exactly easy to me. My father didnt believe me and I showed him the letter, I think he still questions it. He's an engineer and he has an idea of the courses im taking.

What im asking is it might be too late to start dating by then because people are getting engaged and married around that age. Im like really late to the party.

It's pretty embarrassing living at home at 25 and I pretty much stopped going out and talking to friends due to this.

I don't want to be such a piece of shit, but, even when I really have strong feelings for a girl - after "chasing" her and finally making things official, it's like I notice all the other beautiful girls in the world 100x more.

Like, the girl I could have been chasing could be a 10/10 in my eyes but I lose all interest after I get her.

Is there any explanation for this besides me being autistic? I'm not a fuckboy

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I got a date tonight with a girl, met her on dating app. Pretty much we're both what you'd call low-income young adults, we're both of a minority race that make up less than 1% of Americans, she's a nursing student, I'm an engineering student, we're both fairly laid back, seems like it could be a good match.

Maybe this sounds weird but through talking to her it seems we live really, really close to each other. Any good tips to not make a date "weird", because even though I think she's pretty hot (and she must clearly think the same of me), I'd hate to have to run into her if things turn out awkward. On the plus side if it works out good, she lives really close to my apartment.

Basically looking for any generic first date tips, it's been a while since I had one.

pic isn't her btw

>>17350380
Nah bro, you haven't even reached your prime yet. I don't think it's embarrassing at all. I wish I could live with my parents right now while I am finished up law school, lol.

I think you're being too hard on yourself. It's a damn good thing you haven't wasted your money on rent and all that other shit.

>>17350003
Not a bad idea but just keep the fact that neither of you have been in a relationship before in mind.

>>17350022
When she isn't busy. Or whenever you want. She'll respond when she gets a chance just don't dwell on her not responding right away.

>>17350054
I'll let you know as a shy guy: Men aren't good at reading the little hints girls give off. We don't want to misinterpret something as being more than it is or we'll look like a creep. You need to be very direct so there's no possible way he can't understand.

To both I suppose:

What are your opinions on paying for dates? Who should, who shouldn't, when etc?

>>17350142
What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

>>17350054
Some guys have a hard time going in for the kiss. It's like, most guys know there's a certain point where you're supposed to kiss the girl, some of the shyer less experienced dudes don't.

My suggestion would be try to make it really obvious for him. Something like take his hand, look straight into his eyes, maybe pout your lips a little bit, be seductive for him. If he still can't take the hint, I'd say you should try to kiss him (yes I know it seems weird for a girl to do that). But you do like this guy, right? My suggestion is if you want to eventually be doing more with him, you might need to take the initiative.

Too many guys are brainwashed by this "rape culture" stuff and are scared of making a move, when that move could literally be the difference between them getting laid or not. The sad truth.

Is it bad to fuck on the first date?

>>17350420
>What are your opinions on paying for dates? Who should, who shouldn't, when etc?
At the beginning, whoever asks the other out.
After a few dates, I prefer splitting the bill or taking turns.

>>17350429
can confirm about rape culture comment.

White male, so i have to be careful what i say and do. I also dont publicly voice my opinion at all.

I remember when i was 16 I was in class doing group work leaning against a table a girl i knew leaned in grabs my dick. All i could think about was stop doing that if the teacher sees im the one who gets in trouble and i got my hands to my fucking self.

The girl looked at me really funny when she realized i did not enjoy that and want her to stop.

>>17350435
My personal preference is that the person who invited the other one pays for the first date, then you alternate.

It's more festive than making a hassle out of splitting the bill, less stingy because you're not keeping track of whether one person (the idea!) paid a few bucks more, and it doesn't imply that one person does the other one a favor like one person consistently paying does (to me).

As a girl, while I can understand that some (especially rich) guys would enjoy feeling like they can take a girl out and treat her to stuff like men traditionally did, it also puts more pressure on me to not "lead him on" if he's paying. It is one thing to tell someone after a number of dates that you don't see real potential, it's another thing to do so if he has been paying for everything you put into your mouth while determining that you were not interested in him.

>>17350455
Shit. This reply was meant for >>17350420

Fucking on the first date, I don't think it's necessarily bad. I do think that if you are aiming for a serious relationship, it's good to wait until sparks are really flying. Besides, the stage where you still have to guess at what the other person's body looks like is in its own way very exciting.

If you have an amazing first days where you spend hours together, feel like long lost friends, are all over each other etc... I think it's silly to put off sex just because you don't like the idea of doing it on the first date.
But if this is not the case (as it won't be in 99/100 cases) I think it's worthwhile to wait until you really want to sleep with them for who they are. Wanting to sleep with someone just because they are hot feels more fit for casual flings.

>>17350418
>>17350429
Thanks again for the replies! I'll definitely keep both of these things in mind.

I'm more used to getting a goodnight smooch on the first date so this has my confidence shaken a bit even though it shouldn't be... he makes it clear he's interested pretty regularly over text, but getting hugs instead of a kiss just has me feeling baffled.

Question, going off of this: whenever we have our stay-in movie date, if he doesn't make a move by the end of the night, do you think it would warrant a "hey are we just hanging out or are you interested in me too?" comment? Or should I just say f it and try to go for it myself? I'm fine with things going at a slower pace, I just want to be sure that it's going somewhere at all, I guess.

>>17350390
It's pretty obvious, for you trying to get girls is more about the thrill of chasing, the egostroke of getting someone to like you and the prospect of sex than it is about intimacy and wanting stability.

You're not ready for a relationship. Stick to causal sex and fuckbuddies until you tire of it and have fucked enough women to realize that they are not that different from one another physically and it's all about someone who intrigues you and stands by your side.

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>>17350472
I'd say try to initiate things with him next time you're alone together at one of your places. If he's still not responsive or reactive, yeah you should probably ask him if he's interested in you.

If you're dating a girl and you're watching a movie, and she starts putting the moves on you and you don't respond, you're either really, really, really scared of being branded a rapist, or you're gay. I can't really see what else it is, worst case scenario he's a beta male nice guy who probably can't fuck either. Just being real.

>>17350270

Her friends sound like cunts.

>>17350288

It's a date, not prostitution. They don't care if you're broke as long as you're fun to be with.

>>17350308

Just talk to him. Communication.

>>17350390
>I'm not a fuckboy

u sure m8

>>17350394

That's convenient and you should appreciate it. I once dated a guy who lived down the street from me and it was so convenient.

>>17350420

I have no problem going dutch, but often the guy offers to pay.

>>17350435

Nah.

>>17350448

>white male
>rape culture

Bull fucking shit, I have this feminism rubbish. I've been sexually harassed and assaulted plenty, and it was NEVER a white guy despite hanging out with white guys 95% of the time. Yes, rape is bad, but they want to pin it all on innocent white guys to protect their liberal narrative of din du nuffins being perfect angels. It's not only counterproductive but is ridiculous and ostracizes actual victims because god forbid they mention it was a colored or it's literally hitler. You can't even have a discussion on how to prevent rape anymore because the perpetrators are like a protected class from all criticism. desu if you want to not be raped, don't hang around nigs, spics, and sandcoons. White men have never been anything but gentlemanly to me.

I feel so sorry for men sometimes. I'm sorry so many women are insane cuntasauruses.

Give tips for a bj that is so good that'll make the guy clinch his asscheeks together like >>17348423

Going to ask crush out tomorrow,
We're in the same classes but I don't talk to her often, it's actually kind of awkward. I feel like I've given the wrong impression by being too nervous to talk to her.
is just biting the bullet and asking her out - out of no, a good move? or should I get to know her first? I wont see her for 6 weeks after Friday so I don't wanna miss my chance. Ty babies

>>17350484
Alright, thanks very much! I appreciate it. Time to start working on my confidence even more now I guess.

>>17346970
Good : u will know more about the person and her/his preferences (not so deep)

Bad : Paranoia

A question for the women

I'm a guy who just recently started talking to a co-worker that I have a crush on. Before it was just saying hi, every time we past by, but now we talk about mutual interest.
I do want to ask her out or at least try to find out if she is single but I don't know how or if I should even bother

>>17350506
The most important thing is that you seem into it. No porn moaning like you're getting railed, but muffled sounds while you're taking him in your mouth (the vibrations feel good as well), be eager about it, make lots of eye contact, make a sexy little show out of undoing his pants. It also helps to look sexy, like wearing your best lingerie (with heels or a collar or make up, whatever his preferences are).

Make him feel like he doesn't have to do anything and is in for a treat. Make sure he's comfortable, put a pillow behind his head, take off his pants and underwear. Show by the way you are kissing and undressing him that this is going to be good.

Basic: keep your teeth out of the way by imagining you try to pick up an ice cube with your lips without it hitting your teeth.
The frenulum (on the front of his dick, right underneath his head, a little skin fold) is really sensitive and this is a great hotspot to lick, gently suck on and kiss. The corona (ridge around the head), his peehole and his taint are also sensitive. Balls are more personal, some guys adore having them sucked on and gently tugged on and for others it does little.
Make sure to mix up a lot of sensations, even the best feeling thing in the world gets stale. You have a whole lot to offer: sloppy loose wet mouth, suction with a twirling tongue, teasing limber fingers. Go crazy and drape long hair on his dick, press your boobs up against his crotch. Everything that feels good goes, so try things out and take a mental note of what he responds to. Sensitivity towards your partner's individual preferences is a huge part of pleasing someone well.

The other part is getting a good, confident rhythm going. The best is if you are relaxed and experienced enough to alternate between a sensual, slow pace and frantic and fast, especially with some edging in between where you pull away and make him beg for it and admire your body and flushed face.

>>17350532
Just keep being interested in her and her life. You will find out.

> dating a lesbian
> a lot of female friends
> don't know if they make out
> not comfortable with the idea

How I ask without sounding creepy/insecure?

Or just fuck off and enjoy her?

>>17350532
If she never mentioned in any conversation, I guess its pretty clear. Most part of women make this very clearly

>>17350539
> dating a lesbian
> a lot of female friends
> don't know if they make out

Are you are a guy? If you are why are you dating a lesbian?

>>17350536
Play into his personal psychological preferences. For example, if he's a dom, surprise him by revealing his dick, marveling at the sight a bit, then looking up shyly and going "please sir, can I touch it?" (or whatever terminology you use)
If he's submissive, abruptly stop and tell him you got bored of it, you don't feel like he's enjoying it. Put on the bitchy demeanor of the prissy prom queen. Make him tell you how great it feels, promise he will be more vocal, and ultimately beg for you to suck him off before conceding and telling him you want to hear him whimper like a good boy. Obviously adjust if you feel this doensn't align with what he likes, it's just examples, you get the idea.

As for deepthroating, there are guides to learn it online, you can train your gag reflex away by practicing with a tooth brush (basically just breathing steadily and calmly while you insert it a bit further than is comfortable, again and again until the discomfort is gone). Obviously there's the clenching your left thumb into a fist trick, but personally it has never done me much favors, I don't feel like it helps that much.
If you feel no desire for this (which is completely valid), a good alternative is learning how to pump with your hands in addition to taking as much as you can of him in your mouth, so he still gets a full dick experience.

A bonus tip that I find difficult to describe but will try is that if he is super hard (we're talking throbbing and leaking precum), take him into your mouth from the very top (as in, your mouth as close as possible to his stomach) and basically force him to enter your mouth from an angle that is unnatural because his dick wants to get more room. From my experience, the sensation of his dick wanting to escape but being trapped in your mouth makes a guy go insane.

>>17350550
Yes a guy, I well I mean... she was a lesbian, I guess she's "turning" straight because of me

>>17350566
Also, it is common for men to love it when you keep their balls away from their dick a bit when they're hard, eg by making a ring from your fingers and keeping it at the base so they are forced away from his shaft.

I think these are the most important things, I tried to present them in a logical order but not sure if I succeeded there. A lot of it is practice and willingness to not worry about how you look and throw yourself into the experience. There are also lots of good guides out there if you want to read more still. Good luck!

>>17350570
So... bisexual then? Why would she be kissing girls if she's 'straight' now. Why would she be kissing anyone period if she's dating someone

>>17350503
I don't make the rules, I just have to play the game.

I don't even like to hug girls i semi know. I went to shake some girls hand and she was like no and gave me a hug. I dont know what to do anymore ive resorted to shaking hands with girls lol. Im also semi paranoid now because im finishing college soon and hoping to finally realize some of my goals in life and dont want to fuck it up.

>>17350536
How do I initiate it? I'm very very shy, even around people I'm close to (for example I can't always look at people in the eyes when I talk) and I'm rather unexperienced so it's hard to act confident while I feel ridiculous, and to initiate it when I know I'm going to feel clumsy. But I'm trying to get better at it, so any tips on how to do that?

And a more general question, how to initiate sex, or how to let the other person know you're down for it?

>>17350538
That has to be the only way

>>17350545
We haven't talked about each other

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Ladies.

How do you feel when your man is a huge Trump supporter?

To people sexually attracted to women, especially US citizens:

Do you find the brand image of Victoria's Secret sexy? Im from the EU and I find the aesthetic of their shows and shops too "sweet" and infantile but people seem to consider it peek sexiness... Or is it just attractive on the attractive models, but would look stupid on average women

>>17350662

All the fans of the fashion shows I know of are women. The guys I know either don't really care about the business, or are more into fetish lingerie. Then again, they're mostly nerds, so what do I know.

I think it's more the older cheeky guys who get hot and bothered for it; you know, the ones who buy novelty pens with undressing ladies on them.

I was going down on my boyfriend the other day and noticed he was producing a lot of precum. Not a bad thing, I loved it, he was rock hard. However, I've never noticed this before.

Could there be a reason for the change or could it have been that he was particularly turned on that morning?

>>17350662
https://www.victoriassecret.com/
>too "sweet" and infantile
>too infantile
>lingerie
What, show some examples.

>>17350595
Hope you still see this as I was walking my dog.

It doesn't really matter how you do it. A wilder way is to jump on his lap and start breathing down his neck telling him you want him. But deep kissing, then looking deep into his eyes and then giving a shy smile and nudging towards the bedroom can work as well. The main thing is to start with things that you feel comfortable with and gain confidence along the way.

Don't expect to give a stellar blowjob if this is your starting point, allow yourself time to grow more confident. The main key (but this isn't something you can rationally accept, it takes some more - life - experience) is to realize that he likes YOU so he is turned on by you acting aroused and enthusiastic and sexy. Whether you compare to the looks of some porn star or celebrity, whether your moves are flawless, whether you manage not to stumble or laugh at yourself - that's all just noise. It's you showing him that you want sex and you want him that turns him on, not that you look visually perfect or put on a show that would suit a stripclub. Try to imagine the equivalent for you - do you care that he's no Johnny Depp when he's wooing you and being romantic, or seducing you? No, because you like him better than some better looking random.

>>17350628

MAGA with him.

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>>17350719
Not her but I agree. They seem to be after some sort of "angelic" look that just isn't that erotic to me - lots of white, champagne, pink, cutesy lace. Looks more like a romantic fancy bed cover than something meant to make you look like a sex queen to me.

Pic related is my favorite brand, and we have others that are still more no nonsense (less romantic, bold, not sure what else to call it) or subtle BDSM in appearance.

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>>17350767
Other example from a different brand.

>went to college orientation yesterday
>met a girl while scheduling classes
>started talking
>asked for her Facebook when she was finishing up

Now I don't know what to do because I am stupid and have never had a girlfriend. I feel like we would get on really well. Do I message her today? Later on? Move-in day is in a little over a month.

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>>17350771
Third example of different brand.

>>17350628
Single.

>>17350628
Disgusted

>>17350745
Thanks. I know all that, so I was looking for specific ways to do it, especially for oral sex. I know many guys would be happy to know their girl wants to give them head, and it feels stupid not to do it just because I don't know how to say it haha. Your ideas were good, will try next time we meet. Thanks!

>>17346925
Guys or girls. Anyone have any tips on how I can have fun being dominant? My girlfriend wants me to take control more, and I do it. It's not that big a deal to me, and I apparently do it really well. But I'm kind of on "autopilot" during it? I don't know. I get that the sub is supposed to be receiving sensations and stuff like that, but I kind of get a little bored honestly.

>>17350517
Another possibility is he REALLY likes you. I know that I took it really slow with my current gf because of that.

>>17350772
Have some light conversations from now til then, but I'd try and build relationships like that in person. Make sure she doesn't forget you, but don't be too clingy.

>>17350855
I wouldn't really know a magical way, of course you can sexily whisper in his ear that you want to taste him, or just push him down on the bed and start unbuttoning his pants, but I reckon that if you feel self conscious about initiating it might be better to just start doing it without making a big deal out of it. Good luck!

>>17350514
Do it. I almost wasted my chance with my crush all throughout highschool by not making a move because I was so nervous even though she was giving me obvious signals. It's better to nut up and do it instead of getting inside you're own head. A lot of men nowadays overthink this kind of shit.

>>17350718
Maybe you were doing a really good job.

>>17350860
Ok, thanks. I'll look at it as making a friend right now. Say I message today and maybe in a week or two (if the conversation isn't continuous). Should I stop after two initiations or more?

Basically, I am asking how many times starting a conversation is too much or annoying. When do I back off? When do I expect for her to message?

>>17350880

Perhaps. It was an exceedingly good blowjob, even I was quite impressed.

I liked it. Maybe I'll tell him I want to taste more of it next time. Would that be a bit weird?

>>17350903
>I'll look at it as making a friend right now
Perfect. That's almost always the right step. Everyone can be a friend first/if things don't work out. The difference is, after you gauge for some attraction, you become more forward and flirty. It takes practice, and college is PERFECT for that.

As for how many times this and how many times that, play it by ear? It's not an exact science. Think a little bit, but don't think too much. Be conversational, but casual.

>>17350718
Precum is a sign that the dick is pleased. When I'm hanging out with my girlfriend and get even a bit aroused, I know I can count on a bit of leakage. It's pretty similar to you getting wet.

>>17350907
My girlfriend once said "When I taste salt, I know I'm doing a good job. I love keeping you leaking." I thought it was REALLY hot. I'm into fluids though. Talk to him. People act like dicks are gross, so it's nice to give them some appreciation.

>>17350566
>tfw both of those demeanors are hot as fuck.

Wish my gf were more switchy. Gotta bring it up.

>>17350907
Don't tell him because then he'd be too focused on trying to please you to get aroused to the point he starts producing precum.

>>17350205
>But it would have been more normal
Nothing about it is normal, what kind of people do you hang out with? That's some serious mental problem shit.

desu you are cool

>>17350928
Thanks a lot

Do good looking girls with low self esteem exist?

Need guidance
>girl at work super into me, get number
>go on date, is disaster
>try again
>sorry anon, having breakfast with Chad
>figure that's it
>find out she and chad are going to Seattle for the fourth
>that's it then
>One day after work anon lets smoke weed
>okay
>drives out into countryside, starts talking about kids and shit
>Virgin, so thinking holy shit this is it
>make move
>anon I'm not a ho
>kicks me out
Wtf. I'm so confused.
>

Guys why are you all nu-males who worship women so much?

>>17350662
>To people sexually attracted to women,

I think the vast majority of us guys don't really give too much of a fuck.

Like yeah, lingerie can be sexy, but honestly, a girl wearing just a t-shirt can be equally/more sexy.

In actuality, yeah there may be the rare guy here or there who might REALLY pay attention, but lingerie is more for women, just like the rest of anything related to fashion.

Case in point, my girlfriend has some designer lipstick called unicorn blood or something. Apparently it sold out within 5 minutes of going on sale. She asked me what I thought, and I just said it looks pretty. But I've seen three different women (strangers no less) walk up to her and say "oh my gosh! is that the new <lipstick brand>! It looks beautiful!? How did you get it! So jealous!"

>>17350718
>could it have been that he was particularly turned on that morning?

Yup. Probably this.

>>17350539
>Or just fuck off and enjoy her?
This.

AFAIK Lesbianism has no real impact on comfort with PDA and the like. That shit all just comes down to each individuals comfort and upraising regarding it.

>>17350308
>How do i tell my bf to not buy me flowers?

>Just talk to him. Communication.

"Hey babe, I've been meaning to tell you... you realize you don't need to keep buying me flowers right? I actually think it's sweet and I really do love them, but being with you is more than enough. If you REALLY feel like you have to do something for me, I'd rather that money went towards us both doing something fun and amazing, together :)"

.>>17350156
>I reaaaally want to leave him, because I'm so sick of this shit, but I can't. Every time I try to he always says all the right things

Pretty simple. You already know if you talk to him, he's going to try and bullshit his way out of it and pull your strings:

So don't give him that option.

Just pack your shit now. Block his number. Leave.

No note. No goodbyes. Just get out.

If you need to, have a friend tell it's over.

>>17351008
what the fuck were you expecting

It just seems that you are dumb and fucked up

>meet girl on dating website
>talk for hours
>ask to go out
>says yes
>figure out when schedules meet up
>she deactivates her account
>couple days later messages me on a different site
>apologizes and says she was going though a rough time
>talk back and forth for a little longer, and I asked her about her holiday
>no response
>a few days later reactivates account on original site

I've concluded that she doesn't want to date or talk so I haven't/won't say anything unless she messages me first. It's a little disappointing because she was attractive, interesting, and the first time I've messaged someone and has a fun conversation with in a long time.

Are people just afraid to go out? I'm quite sure its not what I said (unless discussing Tuesday evening is a particularly distressing topic)

>>17350579
Because "Life sucks"? Jk

Idk, lately "dating someone" is more like "still free" u know? Well... she said she's turning straight now... but I don't believe 100%.

Just want to talk about this with her without sounding creepy or something

Or maybe i'm just insecure af and my mind is trolling me...

>>17351008
I'm a literal autist. I have few social connections and no idea how any of this works. I thought we would at least make out a little. Was it to soon for that?

>>17351123
You thought the topic of children was an opening for physical intimacy?

>>17351092
>Are people just afraid to go out? I'm quite sure its not what I said (unless discussing Tuesday evening is a particularly distressing topic)

Pretty much.

There's a decent population of people on dating sites that are still on the fence sketched out by the whole thing and consequently, flaky as hell.

I did online dating for two years (actually met my girlfriend there), and the number of girls I met that were nervous/shy/uncertain vastly outnumbered those that were confident, comfortable, and certain of the whole thing.

I think it's literally like three girls out of two or three dozen that were the latter case, all the rest were nervous in some way.

>First date goes well
>Ask for another
>I'm sorry, I'm just not ready to date again yet

definitely happened a few times (one girl even said she couldn't see me again because she could tell she would fall in love with me too fast and--having just gone through a massive breakup--wasn't in a place to do that yet.)


Online dating is just a numbers game where eventually you either get lucky, or you give up.
But that's also how dating is in general.

Towards the end I kind of realized that and just stopped having longer conversations online, and started cutting to the point and asking girls on dates after a few messages (because really, all the text in the world is never as good as having an in person conversation. Too much of how we communicate is non-verbal and nuanced for text to ever translate properly).

>>17351007
Do highly praised and well paid CEOs feel low self esteem?

>>17351139
They don't feel, they also feed on the blood of children.