Hypothetically, suppose that someone had bullied you to the point where you actually wound up seeing a psychologist because you had been bullied to being suicidal. Suppose that you discovered an opportunity and seized it, namely the opportunity to dox and post nudes of the girl who bullied you in this fashion.
On a scale of 1-10, how wrong is this to have done?
Probably matters more what her actions looked like from her perspective than how they affected you. Granted, being suicidal is awful, but you don't want to fuck someone else over if you're just a really sensitive person.
nice tiger btw
>>17106657
Suppose that authorities, after one incident, questioned both sides. After talking to her, they came back and said
>some people are just bad people
with regard to that person.
Don't do it.
Karma.
It'll come right back to you to bite you in the ass.
>>17106653
dont stoop to her level
>>17106665
>>17106670
these guys have a point, but considering
>>17106665
you probably aren't going to hell either way
>>17106653
What did she do to you?
Were you feeling depressed or suicidal beforehand?
Does she have a boyfriend you could trick into thinking she's cheating with the nudes?
>>17106665
Is my retaliating not karma biting her in the ass?
>>17106670
I don't get why taking revenge on someone is "stooping to her level". Doing something bad to someone without real provocation is different than retaliating against someone who has done something nasty to you for no legitimate reason.
>>17106684
An extended campaign of five or so years of deliberate fuckery. There are too many instances to even know where to begin.
>>17106691
Explain a few instances and answer my other questions.
>>17106653
Need more info to decide if the punishment fits the crime or if you're just another over-sensitive anon who's unhappy the world doesn't owe them the respect they think they're entitled to.
>>17106688
>Is my retaliating not karma biting her in the ass?
No, you're revenge.
Karma isn't done by you but by a third party.
Look, I'm really sorry this has happened to you. I was bullied too, and I looked up my bully recently and she is doing extremely great, eats at the finest restaurants, the best foods, skis at the finest resorts in the alps, has a great body, is a model and is engaged to a rather old sugardaddy. Her life is made while I wallow in sadness in one after another failed relations and no friends to speak of.
I close her tab and try to do as best I can in my own life.
>>17106724
>instances
Started up rumors about my sexuality. Had their friends say nasty things to me in classes that I had with them every day. Had someone who I thought was neutral ask to borrow my phone and use it to call them with it, which resulted in numerous prank calls in the middle of the night since they had my number. Threw things of mine in the trash. Arranged for things of mine to be stolen.
This was all within a month within said five year period.
>depressed or suicidal beforehand
No more than usual teenaged angst.
>boyfriend
No.
Just fucking do it OP.
>>17106665
Karma isn't real, stop buying into that hookus pookus bullshit.
>>17106752
Post it ITT then.
There's nothing more annoying than a bunch of cunts like this.
>>17106752
Destroy her.
Post her information on Craigslist under the casual encounters section. Put her phone number in there as a combination of numbers and words. Write that she's looking for gentlemen who will give her 100 roses on their first date. Include the nude photos.
Post the ad from a computer that isn't associated with yours or on public WIFI in case she and Craigslist attempt to prosecute you.
Go forth in the spirit of justice.
>>17106752
>Started up rumors about my sexuality
Are you an androgynous looking, gender confused faggot? If so maybe you need to be reminded how the real world looks upon people like that and snap out of it.
>>17106776
Craigslist is too risky.
Just post the same ad on /b/
>>17106789
>Craigslist is too risky.
Not if you post in other states or different cities, places where you don't live. She'll receive lude texts and phone calls from random guys. Ask for pictures in the first text. That will lead to positive results.
Post the information on /b/ as well.
>>17106805
Seconding for a /b/ thread. Link it here.
/soc/ too for bonus points.
I would say just post their nudes and name. Doxing could be dangerous.
>>17106830
Doxing here is against the rules, OP will get banned.
>>17106832
Like banned for a couple days like posting boobs outside a NSFW board or permabanned?
Anyway yeah I said full doxing is bad.
>>17106837
Morality isn't objective.. If OP feels justified in it, I don't know why they'd see it as bad.
>>17106837
Rule 4
It'll get him permabanned
>>17106840
Uh huh, but OP asked us for our opinions, so I gave my opinion.
Nudes+name could cause major embarrassment/inconvenience for the person, especially if OP anonymous sends it to the person's friends/family/work. Sharing the full dox on the internet might be actually dangerous for the person, it doesn't seem like she endangered OP's life.
Think about it in utilitarian terms.
Doxing her will only increase the amount of unhappiness in the world. Take the high road m8. Bullies suck and they can fuck you up, but they're catalysts for growth.
Ignore that last part. Don't be a bully.
>>17106858
>Take the high road m8.
>Get high before doxing the bitch.
Good idea.
>>17106858
>the girl reduce OP's happiness and increased her own happiness
>if OP posts nudes, his own happiness will increase and hers will decrease
Sounds fair to me.
>>17106866
Can't remember who said and I'm paraphrasing but:
Imagine a dog eating another animal while it's still alive. The pain of the animal being eaten far outweighs the pleasure of the animal doing the eating.
>bullied to being suicidal
what? I've almost been offed multiple times and had the shit bullied out of me relentlessly in the past, being a victim doesn't justify revenge.
>>17106653
doxxing is never acceptable, doesn't matter if they're hitler incarnate or someone who mildly irritated you.
>>17106874
This
>>17106913
>saying that when US politicians are doxxed in the darknet
>>17106653
Based on the nature of the bully girl your discussing, posting her nudes would be justified, bullies need to understand their are repercussion for their actions. I knew a bully girl in my old hometown, eventually someone got tired of her and beat her up. They need be exiled from neighborhoods and hung high.
Pic not exactly related, but just pretend the guys on the crosses are bullies,thieves,sociopaths,etc.
Do it anon the bitch deserves it time fuck her over get your revenge don't listen to what these idiots say
>>17106743
Karma isn't real stop being such a fanatic. This is his opportunity to ruin her life like she ruined his. Don't be such a faggot.
>>17106653
I would say do it carefully, post the nudes, but also protect your identity and remain anonymous posting her nudes if possible, but keep in mind and becareful of revenge porn laws in your area.
Also watchout for retalian attempts by her friends, YOU do not want to end up like James Hodges from El Centro CA aka Nomadowns(hes on google search), who posted nudes of his ex and now has it done to him(played by his own game) He was stupid and goable enough to post his own nudes on camera.
I suggest try to remain incognito or find a scapecoat or diversion, maybe you can use torr to post her nudes to hide your IP Address, or use a proxy.
>>17106841
He could just dox her from another IP address.
>>17106736
this desu
>>17106752
how old are you?
>>17107282
how old is he? what you expected she was trying to kill him
>>17107291
What? No i mean when did the bullying happen and how old are they know
>>17107292
got you.
>>17107293
im confused but it may be me because i am physically sick and emotionally destroyed
>>17107294
I thought you were trying to make fun of him. That's totally normal, most of the people here are suffering from some sort of mental illness, good luck.
>>17107300
no i just wanted to know how old he is
like does this bullying happen in highschool or what
since this site is 18+ and all, well i havent been in school long but this sounds more like bullying that happens at age 14
i was simply asking
>>17106752
Sorry it sounds kinda crazy, I had stuff stolen from people a long time ago i saw the do it, and the whole classroom was protecting the bully(a football player) and were even lying saying he didnt take it, and they threaten to jump me because i told police, and one cop yelled and threatened the student to give it back. Its kinda unfair because the "witnesses" would even lie to protect their friend or teammate at all costs. They would lie say he didnt take it, or probably even lie and say i hit first if he came down to it. They tried to say that no one took my stuff and I was just 'tripping' they gave me that gangster talk.
Schools are pretty unfair with their so called 'Education Code' or Zero tolerance policies now a days that dont respect self defense.
>>17106653
I will keep it short and sweet. The best revenge is success. Sure you can post nudes, and even get away with it. But it is a hollow victory. It won't undo what was done. Make your own friends, do what you enjoy doing, forge ahead, succeed and have a good life. Regardless of what was done.
I'm curious, how did you get the nudes of some girl who apparently hates you enough to organize other people to bully you?
>>17106653
Do it, from the looks of it she deserves that and more and in all honestly it's likely she'll never even realize she did something so horrible otherwise.
>>17106653
To be honest OP, it sounds as though you've been profoundly and deeply wounded by this person and I'm sorry to hear that. However, this revenge is cheap, and petty. I'm not saying the bully doesn't deserve it, but in comparison to the actions taken against you, what you're doing against her may seem trivial and weak - and therefore make your attempt at revenge look kind of lame, which could hurt you even more. I don't know this girl or how it could effect her, I'm just saying it may not have the desired effect. Safe bet is to just leave it. In the long run, years later, you won't have regretted not doing it.
>>17106661
You sound like a little bitch.
i say go for it. the entire reason people pull shit like this in the first place is because they can get away with it. ive had many instances of people trying to start shit with me only to end getting fucking rocked shortly after. guess what happened after that? fucking nothing. because thats how society works
a few other things
karma isnt real. theres literally no way to quantify its existence. or make any direct correlations to 'negative energies' sent to to 'negative energies' received and the same for 'positive energies' or what the fuck ever. not to mention the people that claim this shit are almost NEVER actual bhuddists or hindus (whatever you call them)
also, youre not stooping to someones level you take a quick detour from your usual and put some little shit in their place as long as you actually go back to your normal business after the situation is over. interestingly enough the people who say this are also always the ones who are pulling petty shit like this to begin with.
do it op
>>17106653
Don't. Never the right thing to do.
Turn the other cheek, as they say.
Don't continue the cycle.
>>17107697
>if it is not right do not do it
>right
thats subjective, nice try though
>if it is not true do not say it
okay ill take that because you can verify a lot of stuff with evidence and such
also
>listening to parent who raised one of the worst emperors ever
>>17106752
>>17107689
OP, I feel so sorry for what happened to you <3 no one should go through such shit.
And btw, karma doesnt exist at all, but every single actions of you have an effect on the future. Who knows, maybe she gets sad and crazy, grabs a gun and kills everyone in the school. In that case, it would be such thing as karma.
Who knows, I would be REALLY careful with such things.
I do not belive in mystery things but ugghhhh sometimes alot of stuff happens that could have been prevented.
>>17107719
dude get fucking real. you people have no fucking concept of proportionality holy shit
>>17107327
I like this way the best. Keep out of people's business and you'll feel a trillion times better.
>>17107729
oh, you know better then? :)
>>17107747
yes i do you silly pants. when have you ever heard of a girl going on a mass murder spree cause she got doxt and had her nudes get out?
>>17106653
Doing this kind of stuff just harbors up under a loser-mentality, OP. Your life won't be better in the long run for it. Move on with your life and find ways to handle your ill feelings without turning to retaliation-schemes.
>>17106653
You have two options:
Forgive - which is understanding that her actions were more about her issues, and you were just the innocent bystander caught in her pain.
Avenge - Actions have consequences. Talk shit, get hit.
If you did it, it doesn't really matter at this point what a bunch of anons think, does it?
How do you feel about it?
you should just let it go dood.
bitches exist.
if it's really eatin' you though, see a psych, or record her talkin' smack the next time round.
if it gets to the point where you are seriously gettin' downed by this ho,
well, bitches get stitches
I was severely bullied all throughout the years I was in school. Now I'm a teacher aide and it's my responsibility to emotionally invest in over 50 children, some of which are bullies, some are not. As bad as bullying was when I was a child and as out to get me as the world felt, I've seen a different side of bullying now. And the reality is it's not as black and white as it seems. The "bullies" are still good kids at the end of the day, ones who make mistakes or are dealing with their own shit and don't know how to react, or react inappropriately to a real or imagined transgression, and those who are bullied also sometimes spark it by being too pushy or bossy or insulting the "bully" themselves who then reacts in a far more extreme way.
Bullying is shitty and it can fuck up your life if it isn't nipped in the bud by someone early on, I won't dispute that. But consciously and vindictively seeking out to destroy someone else's life at an age where you should know better makes you much worse. Move on with your life, let go of your anger and resentment to them and don't stoop to doing such a horrible thing. It's going to take a lot of time to let this stop affecting you and maybe it never fully will, but it's a worthy endeavor.
>>17106762
If you knew anything about Buddhist thought you would know that it is merely a reference to moral conduct and conscience.
>You better be able to live with what you are going to do or it will haunt you to your death.
>>17106743
The point of karma is not to be a bitch and not retaliating.
I think if I met you in the future and heard your story, but then you told me you did that I would think a lot less of you as a person. As someone who has been bullied, the best revenge for me has always been to better myself. But to take a blow and put something out there about her that may not go away with time? Pretty low.
maybe add her on linkedin and ask her to connect/recommend you w/ a professional contact for a job? Have her ask her sugar daddy to give you a connection?
If you wanna overcome socioeconomic barrier she might do it 'cause she feels guilty, and you might as well turn her connections into something positive for yourself if you want literal compensation anyway.
>>17106653
Or if your still mad at her, be her friend first, then go to her house and steal some of her stuff(not too much stuff) and walk about the door and leave. It's not illegal as long as no one sees you steal it and you dont get caught.
I have experience with police officers, in order to report a theft crime the cop will ask these:
"Did you see him steal it?"
"Do you have it on Camera?"
or "Do you even have the bar code or serial number of the item he stole?"
Theres also a borrow theft, which can be kind of complicated.
>>17110400
Also make damn sure you dont have stolen stuff on your person and if cops come talk to you, know how to handle police encounter, and dont consent to searches on your person(try telling the cop you dont consent to searches if he asks you or if he searches anyway,verbally refuse but never physically resist , and dont answer incriminating questions to cops.
I suggest look up 'Flex Your Rights(take some of their advice but also use common sense) on youtube and look up shouse law website videos for advice(its also on youtube) etc.
>>17106653
Fuck that shit unless you can cover your tracks I would not do it.
>>17106653
probally would have stabbed them the fuck up by now.
>rule 1: dont let nobody fuck with you
>rule 2: never forget rule 1.
Dont listen to all these Sklavenmoral morons here OP. Get Tor and a VPN and post them on /b/ and other sites. Spread them and you will give that bitch a lesson. Karma does not exist. There is no such thing as a just world. Just do it!
>>17107719
>Who knows, maybe she gets sad and crazy, grabs a gun and kills everyone in the school. In that case, it would be such thing as karma.
That's not karma, because it's affecting innocent people that had nothing to do with this.
Hey, OP. Fuck all of the other retards in this thread and listen to me.
The answer is 0. Ask yourself, when did your bully take a break and thought to herself "Am I doing something wrong here?". Exactly, she never did that.
I wasn't even bullied in school but even I would say don't hesitate to get back at people who've done you horribly wrong when you did nothing to deserve that.
You should be proud actually. You actually took a second to evaluate if what you want to do is bad enough to not do it. You have a conscience and it's telling you to not do it. I would almost say we need more people like that, but fact is it is a weakness when there is at least one person on this planet who doesn't have a conscience and takes advantage of the weak who can not defend themselves or refuse to hit as hard back as the bully NEEDS it. It's exactly the reason why bullies will keep bullying.
Get back at her and do the world a favor.
Keep in mind, the people in this thread who tell you otherwise are just superficially minded people who enable bullies. They are idiots.
Just like this guy >>17106665. Absolute idiocy. Where was the karma that stopped the bully from bullying?
Or this moron >>17106670. We aren't in a overly idealistic movie. The world doesn't work that way.
Do it, OP.
But make sure to not get caught.
>>17113411
Spoken like a true teenager.
