Is NoFap legit? Like would it actually improve my social skills and be a better person overall?
It would help your sex life/relationship with girls, but it won't turn a sperg into a normie
no it doesnt help anything, you'll just end up beating off someplace that you shouldn't
>>17061296
If you spend your time mindlessly browsing 4chan in place of fapping, you're a fucking dumbass and will fail.
NoFap's point is to be busy with productive shit. Get off of the internet if you want to succeed with this 'challenge.'
>thinks not masturbating will help his social skills
too late for you anon
>>17061296
I did it for 8 days and then stopped. Didn't really see much of a difference.
Only thing is that when I came it was almost a liters worth.
>>17061296
Not at all.
Being a FAP addicted is bad, but not fapping forever is even worse and can fice you cancer.
You can cum in a woman if you find one though
>>17061296
OK BUT WHERE IS THE POLITICS?
It's a placebo and people on here keep peddling it.
>>17061302
>in a woman
>not on
degenerate
>>17061296
Scientific evidence seems to point towards regular ejaculation lowering prostate cancer rates. NoFap is probably a bad idea, but then again so is fapping too much. I seem to suffer no ill physical effects or penis desensitization from one fap per day, but any more than that seems to tire me out and lead to penis desensitization. I think one ejaculation per day is probably OK.
>>17061299
This, I only come here once a day just to see what's happening in the world really. I started nofap and replaced all my bad habits(vidya/forums/anime)with good ones. Maybe nofap serves as a kind of reminder to keep doing good.
>>17061296
No matter how often you fap, you are still stuck being you.
>>17061306
I should add that I think the best time of day for a fap, by far, is right before bed. It seems to help one fall asleep rather well. South Park once made an entire episode about how a simple HJ before bed knocks a man right the fuck out.
NoFap is stupid. NoPorn is what you should actually do; if you get to the point where imagining girls is all it takes for you, you've "repaired" your brain. Nothing wrong with masturbating a couple times a week. It's as basic a biological necessity as taking a shit or eating.
There can be benefits of not wanking for periods of time, an example being increased pleasure and sensation when masturbating but the actual claims of NoFap is unscientific and it is essentially a new age cult.
>>17061296
The effects are subtle and they build up over time.
Girls will notice you more and start approaching you.
To see any effects I would say you need ~ 2 month of total no fap. No edging, no stimulation whatsoever.
>>17061296
It will have no effect whatsoever except you might feel more cranky and irritable.
No such thing as being addicted to fapping. It doesn't hurt your brain. That's all bullshit.
Here is the deep truth... The body represents the fact that we are physical objects, bound by determinism and subject to decay and death. We try to escape this fact by identifying with a symbolic self, a "mind" somehow distinct from the body. But sexuality pressures us back into identification with the body. And so sex makes us feel guilty, because sex represents the body and the body represents decay and death. We think that by controlling our sexual impulses we are somehow overcoming our body, and thereby overcoming our determinism and our mortality. But it is the illusion of control and will not save you.
>>17061303
/pol/ = r9k betas talking about politics
>>17061307
Sounds like you're doing it right, then.
I'd read posts on NoFap forums and shit that were like 'because I'm doing NoFap I'm not having sex as much with my gf because I'm dedicated to the challenge!!!'
Shit your sex life doesn't have to suffer because you want to hold it in.
Internet addiction is far more destructive imo.
I fap 3+ times every single day, and now I can't stay hard when having actual sex.
Do I go get viagara or just stop masturbating? I'm 22.
>>17061316
Just drop to once a day or less and you'll be fine.
>>17061296
don't quit masturbating, just quit looking at porn
masturbate only when you are horny enough for it without any porn
>>17061316
As I've stated >>17061306 once per day doesn't seem to desensitize me, but twice does. Don't go beyond once per day.
>>17061296
Yes
After like a month of bot fapping buy a prostate massager and you'll have the best orgasm, you won't be able to move.
>>17061299
this
>>17061320
>not just finding a femdomme to peg you until you cum all over the place
This is way more fun.
>>17061318
There's nothing wrong with porn in moderation.
Stop craving asceticism.
>>17061296
>Like would it actually improve my social skills and be a better person overall?
No, you going out and socializing would obviously fix that, idiot.
>>17061297
This.
still worth doing. But it won't give you superpowers unless fapping is the ONLY thing holding you back.
Definitely a good thing to fix ED and reduce social anxiety though.
>>17061320
you don't need to be a fag, just go 2 weeks and you can have an orgasm without using your hands or shoving anything in your ass
>>17061313
determinism is exclusively for plebs.
i get what you are saying about sexual impulse being an artifact of "being the body", but this is just for people who haven't developed yet. everyone who is on the level gets that you are your complete physical organism, which is seamless against the environment, as an organ in the great and ancient human machine.
but determinism is garbage-tier. pls.
>>17061325
>not fapping will reduce social anxiety
please stop spreading bullshit
>>17061326
>any and all forms of prostate stimulation are "gay"
Oh, you poor, poor soul. I pity you. You will never experience what is, by far, the most intense form of sexual pleasure available to a man.
>>17061324
This.
There is no shortcut to solving any kind of problem you have. You seriously just gotta face it head on.
>>17061328
It will though, a little bit.
It won't fix actual autism and lack of social skills, only practice can do that. but you'll feel more energetic.
>>17061327
your arguments
>this is pleb
>garbage
The world is governed by cause and effect. Self evident truth, just accept it and move on.
>>17061328
>>being conditioned to need things in your butt to have an orgasm
>>not gay
>>17061329
lmao fag
>>17061329
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG!!!!!!!
>>17061333
nice misquote :^)
>>17061303
it's POLITICALLY INCORRECT not "politics" you fucking autist retard
Only if you are able to have regular sex.
Otherwise it's just self-flagellation.
>>17061296
no you will just get really horny and end up hitting on some really ugly chicks and possibly fucking them or worse
>>17061326
I'm not a fag. I asked my ex if she could fuck me with a strap on.
I don't like dicks at all
>>17061296
Just fap my friend. The end is near anyway.
>>17061298
This, after a month of not fapping I started beating off in my car and some old women saw me.
>>17061296
no, 2d woman are supperior ,dont fall for this scam
>>17061340
Just saying, if you reach the point where you can't get off without something in your butt you've been white genocided because you won't be able to concieve
>>17061334
>>17061335
Your loss. There is literally nothing gay, by definition, about self prostate stimulation or allowing a woman to stimulate your prostate. A prostate orgasm is more intense than a penile orgasm by a factor of at least tenfold. Being pegged by a cute girl literally feels much better than vaginal intercourse as long as adequate lube is used and once you learn the simple trick of trying to "push it out," as if you were trying to force poop out, to accept it in smoothly.
Your ignorance and closed-mindedness will simply prevent you from ever experiencing the most intense form of orgasm biologically possible for you. Sucks to be you.
>>17061296
I doubt it actually changes things like social anxiety and whatnot( maybe plecebo?) and it definatley won't make you taller and your acne go away.
It is good if you spend all day looking at porn and if you're addicted to it. It will also help you get rid of those gross nasty porn induced fetishes.
>>17061344
My wide is called Emma we have 3 white kids.
I can get off to masturbating and having sex with my wife. Not that she's usually up for it Hahahaha.
I was just recommending the greatest orgasm. But whatever. You can go without it if you want.
>>17061296
Its a load of tosh. I only fap about once a week and I'm still a cynical loner.
>>17061344
>if you reach the point where you can't get off without something in your butt
I'm not sure this is even possible. It's not like prostate stimulation leads to penis desensitization.
>>17061345
you realize that 100 years ago before Jews invented psychoanalysis, anything other than P in V sex was considered sodomy.
>>17061347
Wife
>>17061296
>would it actually improve my social skills
No
>be a better person overall?
Fapping doesn't make you a worse person, just a weaker one.
>>17061348
Start smoking dope before you talk to the normies. It helps.
>>17061342
das hawt
>>17061346
>fetishes
>just going away by themselves
I'm not sure things work this way.
>>17061350
People thought the Earth was round once too. "Gay" = sexual activity with a member of your own gender.
>>17061353
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gene-react-marijuana_us_56c4a78ee4b0b40245c89a54
I think I probably have this gene, and cannabis use makes socialization much harder for me. I get super fucking quiet because I can't think fast enough to keep up with conversations.
I went 7 days and my skin improved, then I had a 2 hour edging session and basically had to cum because I had terrible blueballs, I immediately regretted it
>>17061346
It'll actually make your acne worse but that means you're gaining testosterone.
And it takes dietary changes (or in extreme cases, accutane) to fix it.
>>17061296
Iv'e been off the fapping by and large for quite a few months. Slip up every 3 to 4 weeks but whatever.
I feel better. Then again in the same timeframe iv'e quit smoking and energy drinks. Also not drinking alcohol during the week and not getting tanked on the weekends.
Its funny, i'm now saving money and i feel free. You should try it if you haven't already.
I don't know how it would go if i didn't have a girlfriend.
>>17061353
DUDE
>>17061296
>thinks jizzing away your semen regularly, which takes a lot of important shit for your body to produce and wasting the energy your body stores for sex doesnt have any effect on your mental well being
>>17061296
Only works for up to four days, and you just get hornier.
>>17061354
It really wasn't, they were fat with short hair. I was alreaday past the point of no return though so I couldn't really stop from cumming.
>>17061353
I'm not autistic or spaghetti-spilling. I just find it taxing to talk to people who I have nothing in common with. Which is most people.
>>17061355
Regular fetishes stick with you, porn induced ones don't. When you watch too much porn you'll start to need more and more hardcore stuff to get off. Those kind of fetishes you can get rid of.
>>17061296
It can benefit your sexual performance through making it easier to get and maintain an erection.
Porn and masturbation are one of the many ways today to provide the brain with supernormal stimulus that will mess up with your reward system. People who frequently watch porn will notice that they constantly keep looking for something more and more novel because the old stuff simply doesn't do it for them any more.
http://www.sparringmind.com/supernormal-stimuli/
>>17061345
ok but don't cry fag
>>17061365
I'm still not sure it works that way. I've had a foot fetish since I was like 4 and facesitting is a porn-acquired fetish for me. I'm pretty goddamn sure I could go years without watching porn and I'll still find facesitting hot as fuck.
>>17061296
yes, you should print the picture and hang it near your desk
>>17061347
>>17061351
Nice freudian slip. You married a cow, mate. Are those kids even yours?
I no fap to hot glue things
>>17061306
it also points to the fact that fapping at least every once every 3 days makes it harder for your body to use testosterone.
>>17061313
Completely wrong but it's a cool theory
>>17061304
>its placebo
which is bad why?
placebo effect is proven effective...
I have a health condition where I can't fap. I don't really have the urge to fap that much since I know I can't, but I can't really say it's improved my life at all.
>>17061372
Source? Also, I'm not sure that's entirely a bad thing. Testosterone makes dudes do stupid fucking shit sometimes.
>>17061365
100% true. I find traps disgusting after a 2 week nofap, and this is holding true even after I relapsed
>>17061356
Funny, its the opposite for me. I tend to stay away from politics and eventually accidentally showing my power level.
It also allows me to get over some of my natural self filtering, so i let my wit run wild.
It also takes my wit from personal daggers to general ha' ha's.
Weed just makes me less of a prick. I also lift when i'm ripped so it translates to fighting fairly well. Lowered brain-muscle barrier and all that jazz.
Only had to do that a couple of times in my life though.
Its not for everyone, but it works to help me stay hidden in plain sight.
>>17061296
>>17061378
I think small amounts of alcohol will probably make socialization easier for just about everyone, whereas cannabis seems to affect lots of different people in lots of different ways.
>>17061364
Same, hence the dope smoking to talk to them. It makes even mundane stupid bullshit tolerable.
>>17061329
Your fedora is showing faggot
>>17061296
Claims that It will improve your physical health are completely unsubstantiated (There's a great pasta about all the powers that NoFap gives, like superstrength and the ability to detect minor vibrations in the Earths crust)
But it will
a) Help your mental wellbeing
b) Help your dick
NoFap isn't really necessary, but stop doing it so much... maybe stop for 2 weeks then see how you feel, I fap maybe 3 times a week
NoPorn is far more important
>>17061345
Gay
>>17061313
I tried to not fap for a week and ended up being far more irritable and getting angrier than a menstruating woman.
I used to be a rugby player, can't do it now because I'm thin with money, maybe that has an influence; being on the field meant that I had a place to discharge my anger on others.
>>17061368
Man i'm talking about shit like shemale, hardcore abuse, cuck, rape, etc.
Facesitting was probably a fetish you would've had anyway but you simply found out about it due to porn. Porn induced fetishes are things you would have found disgusting , but since you can't get off to vanilla stuff anymore your body starts to need that fucked up shit.
>>17061296
I think toning fapping down to once every week or so is healthy. Anymore than that and you are just giving yourself blue balls. People who let all that shit build up and thinking its healthy is retarded and bound to end up in the newspaper eventually.
>>17061296
I got up to a year of no fap (not following tards I just decided for myself a few years back when i was doing it excesively).
I just got way more stressed and got a lot of "wet dreams". Overall it was SHIT. senpai
>>17061370
Even if they weren't mine. I'd at least be happy I'm not a kissless virgin like you
>>17061298
This is surprisingly true and funny. Last summer I tried NoFap and eventually lost control and beat off in the local library. True story. Didn't get caught and now beating off in public is a fetish of mine. I call it the peewee hermaning
>>17061386
That's why pornography and masturbation can be as bad as practicing faggotry. All our perverse lust filled abominable practices gets even nastier and more perverse due to the unnatural sexual appetite and the lust involved in it. Faggotry however is just a tad bit nastier and unclean.
It's kind of retarded dude. After like a week of not fapping cause I didn't have the time I had a crazy wet dream. Really stained my boxers with super thick and smelly cum.
>>17061386
>there are actually people boring enough to get off to vanilla stuff
>>17061376
testosterone is used in many essential functions including healing. Estrogen is actually the hormone that you should be most worried about, health wise and brain wise, its the one that makes guys get over emotional and "makes dudes do stupid fucking shit sometimes."
I cant find the source right now for the article. It was actually posted by an anti nofap anon here on /pol/ who used the study to point out that reducing masturbation has no long term affect on testosterone levels in the blood. But I was curious enough to actually read the study and it was true that the study said nofap had no significant changes to testosterone in blood levels. That seemed to be the main focus of the study and was in the headlines of the article. However it also talked about other things that it did affect regarding testosterone. To make the headline of the article centered around testosterone levels in the blood when the study also had all the other stuff i read in it seemed downright sinister, it was disingenuous at best.
If you masturbate every day of every week and you are chronically ill then i would try some nofap. at least try and get it down to once a week.
After fapping every day for a few years, I went five days in a row without fapping last week.
It was terrible, all I literally just wanted to fuck everything. I couldn't focus, didn't have energy, had to force myself to do even the smallest things.
Honestly I think fapping twice a day keeps you mind clear and helps you focus on your own self. I'm 26 and a virgin and have been able to achieve a lot thanks to fapping. But without fapping I'd probably be in a trailer somewhere fucking a 300 pound coalburner while her nigglet spawn listen to the new Jay Z album in the next room over.
If you can't control your animal instincts you'll never amount to anything. Sexual energy is what built empires and conquered kingdoms, it is the driving force of man. Know thyself.
>>17061393
Bruh, I miss the times I just jacked off in the shower.
>>17061391
You do need to masturbate tho( or get laid), at least once in a while, otherwise you'll get wet dreams, and trust me those fucking suck.
>>17061395
I think you have a problem if you consider fapping twice a day normal. How do you even find the time or privacy for that?
>>17061397
>vanilla sex after you've had a kinky partner
>>17061296
It's legit to a certain extent. If you cut back from jacking off everyday/multiple times a day to once every few days/week you will have more energy and a stronger dick.
>>17061296
saving it for jesus
>>17061398
You know I didn't jerk off for like two months and I told the girl in my dreams that I was waiting for marriage, then I had a lucid dream about a month later after i started jerking it like nonstop for two weeks. Lucid Dreaming is awesome.
HEY EVERYBODY, HAD A LUCID DREAM SOMETIME AGO:
I'm not going to give the answers here, but when Lucid dreaming what are you never to do?
And, what happened when you told folks in your lucid dream that this was all a dream. Don't say what happened just show images or links or anything that describes or ascribes to what happens without letting the others in on it.
>>17061296
The all NoFap thing is about stopping instant gratification. By fapping you don't have to pursue women. and it applies to a lot of things . Working /studying/lifting/actions in general for long term goal and not for instant pleasure. Did it a few times . But the results depends on what i do. If i start lifting , eating proprely , it's easier for me to improve . I feel more energy . but If i fap in the morning , i struggle more t do stuff in the day , lower "energy" of some sort. It all depends on your mindset and what you do with your time . A friend of mine is doing it but don't do anything else to improve his live so nothing changes for him and i don't see the point of doing it then. And it also serves to lower your needs of stronger and weidier stuff to fap to ( Fetishes asides)
>>17061462
You're spot on. Good job, you. Just you watch out for those Hijabs and you'll be okay. Niggers and the Hijabs. Keep clear of them and you'll be fine. Blacks and Muslims are okay, but only if they're bro-tier.
>>17061462
Your english is better than
>>17061403
This guy's english
Nofap doesn't do anything other than put you under constant sexual tension. Will power isn't infinite. If solve the root cause of whatever's troubling you, you automatically masturbate less.
It's legit in that many people fap way way too much and it makes it difficult for them to get hard when with actual sex partners.
If you aren't jerking off more than once every day, then it's bullshit.
>>17061613
Thank you man.
I couldn't fap because I was really anxious for a few days and couldn't get hard. it was tough because usually how I relieve tension. So now I have a huge load saved up and I don't want to waste it.
I want to give it to a woman, as a beautiful sticky gift. Someone who would appreciate it
where do I find such a woman?
I was doing nofap because of the [Benefits] and to stop my kinky fetishes.[2 mouths for a 18 boy]
Stuff i notice.
Pros.
>You get more horny, like seeing just a picture or a commercial makes your dick be a hammer
>You have more energy.
>You have more time
>Your skin gets better
>Its good because fap stop being a workaday
>Pleasure.
>Better skin [if you do with cold showers]
>More calm
Cons:
>I Was horny all the times but 1 week i get a flatline [You dick basically dies]
>My kinky fetish didnt disappear[I guess is because i was abused soo is a psychological stuff]
>Sometimes i really feel like a crackhead, Just teasing and wanting the [Drug]
>Cum fast [I dont know why happens the opposite].
Sorry for my bad english not a native speaker
BTW yesterday i broke nofap, i really broke like a champ, doing my kinky fetish on extreme, and watching 4k porn, was cool.
I suggest you try, i was masturbating 1 time a day, and this was a problem, i hate stuff being a routine so a manage to stop.
As a Christian who was addicted to fapping and pornography for YEARS, I gave it up for spiritual and religious purposes about a month ago.
Little did I know that it would be super difficult, but ultimately VERY rewarding.
> My ED disappeared. I get erections when I see an attractive girl now.
>I talk to more girls now and my confidence is through the roof.
>My guy friends even tell me I'm more fun to be around.
>I can focus more on school, for some reason.
>And, the reason I did it in the first place, I'm closer to God.
It's worth it, even from a non-religious standpoint. It can get hard (lol) some nights, but the reward is worth it. Plus, it's totally okay to fap once in a while. When you do, you'll be explosive, hah. But just limit it to one every couple weeks if you must do it.
Good luck
>>17061296
I've been doing nofap this month and I can't say I've noticed much difference. I'm slightly more motivated to talk to women but they're all whores anyway so that's a bit pointless.
resolve my brothers
Dead Thread?
I want to know why this subject have soo much conflict opnions, nofap is truth or false? i read a article saying about porn burns grey mass.
>>17062431
a males prime directive is to blow his load in a woman. How do you do this? by competing with other males.
problem is, if you have blown your load already there is no need to compete.
it's like a predator, a lion doesn't give chase when it has just fed, it lazes about and lounges in the sun. it goes on the hunt when it's hungry.
you need to stay hungry, you need to be sharp and focused.
>>17061307
>This, I only come here once a day just to see what's happening in the world really.
HOW!!!!!!
HOW DO YOU LEAVE
HOW CAN YOU ONLY COME HERE ONCE A DAY AND NOT WASTE HOURS ON END?????!!?
HOWW!!!!!!!!
>>17061298
I jerked it as the school restrooms
Pretty sure some nigger fag was looking (don't ask how I know this)
Never again
You just need to tell yourself to just not fucking fap anywhere especially not school or a public place
If you want to fap is any place that is not private just tell yourself NO
>>17061296
>Not fapping will help with social skills, being productive and more assertive
Meanwhile, the deployed troops of all nationalities are jacking off to porn, even trading external hard drives with the shit and I would go out on a limb and say they have done a little something with their lives.
Only way 'not fapping' helps is the same way as not doing anything else would help: If you're doing that as a replacement for what's best for you but you refuse to do.
It's a fucking crock.
past 7 weeks i've fapped once and looked at porn 3 times
seen some definite improvement in self-esteem and confidence, and I'm a bit more social.
Just overall for the fact that I'm not a degenerate anymore makes me really happy. porn is filth and you can't really look yourself in the mirror when you spend hours everyday looking at it.
people who talk about nofap being a sham are so far down the sex positivity bullshit that they are blind to how vile porn is.
here is what I would say to everyone, why not just do the nofap challenge (one month). If it's helpful that's awesome, if it's not all you lost was one month of jerking off. JUST DO IT
My tip is get friends with you, have parents in your house, people you like, because be alone by yourself is a trap.
>>17062465
I wish to know this too..........
Nofap is bullshit, but no porn is the true red pill. When you watch porn you are literally getting off to someone else fucking a girl. (Literal definition of a cuckold) I'm sure I'll get nailed by the Internet porn defense force, but everything I said is true. Jack off to your imagination it feels much natural, and it won't fuck with your head.
>>17062196
Noice.
>>17062586
Dum question, if you watch solo?
>>17062521
>Just overall for the fact that I'm not a degenerate anymore makes me really happy.
Dude, if your definition of being a degenerate is looking at porn, I have some bad news for you.
>>17062605
Still fucks with your head, but it's a lot less cucky. I wouldn't recommend it, but you can do whatever you feel like.
>>17062614
Soo any kind of porn fucks your head, even a picture. shit.
>>17062521
people like you are the reason this world is shit
>>17062607
what news would that be exactly? that the whole world is degenerate? I already knew that
>>17062633
no u
