>>17005582

Tell her to plead the fifth, assuming she willingly had sex and has an honest soul.

If she wants to get him in trouble, then fuck her.

>>17005582
Is 15 legally in your state?

>>17005590
Fuck the teacher for not realizing that having sex with someone with such a low maturity level was a bad idea, double for the fact she was his student.

OP, just make sure she tells the truth, and dress her up like an Amish school girl, the teacher has no chance.

>>17005599
A teacher having sex with a student isn't legal in any of the states.

>>17005599
No, anyone under 19 cannot legally have sex with a teacher. There were 4 felony charges of sexual Intercourse and other charges for enticing a child.

>>17005590
She was willing, she thought they were in love, but at the time he got arrested she told the cops -everything-

>>17005599
Dumbass, since the police were there Im assuming no. Even if that was the case, its still actually illegal for a teacher/student to fuck, which means jailtime, even if the student is 18.

The only issue is whether or not she liked them and did it of her own free will, regardless of laws.

Tell her this is time for her to grow up, by taking responsibility for the act and not saying a word to police. They'll still convict anyway, but she doesn't have to give anything to them.

>>17005590

You really have to question the judgment and integrity of a 30-year-old teacher who not only has an affair with a 15-year-old, but one of his own students. I'm not saying this particular girl was raped or manipulated, but this is not a good guy, and certainly shouldn't be holding the job of a teacher anymore

>>17005604
Nah.
>>17005609
>She was willing, she thought they were in love, but at the time he got arrested she told the cops

This happens between two 14-15 year olds all the time and what do you say then, faggot? Do you tell guys "oh, you're such shits for fucking a girl with a low maturity level"?

Neither male nor female are passive, helpless blobs. They can make choices. Even stupid ones. That's how they learn.

>>17005609
>She was willing, she thought they were in love, but at the time he got arrested she told the cops -everything-
If she contradicts what she said to the police, then they're just going to drag her original statement in court. Tell her to keep that in mind

>>17005615
>You really have to question the judgment and integrity of a 30-year-old teacher who not only has an affair with a 15-year-old, but one of his own students. I'm not saying this particular girl was raped or manipulated, but this is not a good guy, and certainly shouldn't be holding the job of a teacher anymore

begging the question. How do you know he's not good?

>>17005607
>>17005610
But if it's legal maybe he can offer a fine to advoid jailtime.

>>17005627
The only time you can plea is when the courts are bluffing you.

>>17005590
She does not have the right to plead the fifth. Is your only knowledge of the legal system from television and 4chan?

>>17005639
She doesn't have to tell them anything, because supposed victims do not have to tell anything.

>>17005624

It's unprofessional, unethical, and it raises uncomfortable questions about why he chose the job of teacher in the first place. I don't know the guy, he deserves a fair trial like anyone else, but he definitely should be on trial. I wouldn't want him teaching my kids

>>17005619
>Neither male nor female are passive, helpless blobs. They can make choices. Even stupid ones. That's how they learn.
I guess it's time for the teacher to be taught a life lesson.

>>17005648
>It's unprofessional, unethical, and it raises uncomfortable questions about why he chose the job of teacher in the first place.

So because it raises uncomfortable questions, it should be federal prison time for him?

What about a 30 year old hot blonde with DD tits servicing a 15 year old guy?

OP here. She says that she'd been informed that the teacher is going to try to say that she's a crazy pot smoking girl-in-love who was mad that he didnt like her. They did smoke together a few times during the affair. Do you think they'll drug test her? I'm sure she'll be clean but can they do that?

>>17005648
No, you prefer your kids to ride cock carousel with a bunch of other 15 year olds because that's what's "right".

Lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/books/renegade-view-on-child-sex-causes-a-storm.html

When the University of Minnesota Press agreed more than a year ago to publish a book called ''Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex,'' it was clear that it would be controversial. Other publishers had rejected the manuscript, including one who said it was ''radioactive'' because of its argument for providing children with more sexual education and responsibility.

But neither the press nor the author, Judith Levine, a journalist, could have guessed that the book would be released in the midst of a global scandal over sexual abuse of children by Roman Catholic priests.

Although it will not arrive in bookstores until May, it has already been branded an apologia for pedophiles by talk radio hosts and conservative critics across the country, and Tim Pawlenty, the Republican majority leader of the Minnesota House of Representatives, has called for the university to cancel the book.

In response, the University of Minnesota Press has agreed to set up an extraordinary two-month review of the way its press acquires and reviews books, to be conducted by people from other academic presses. ''We thought it was important to make sure our processes are in line with those in the rest of the country,'' said Christine Maziar, the vice president for research and dean of the graduate school.

A number of civil libertarian groups signed a letter written by the National Coalition Against Censorship saying that the move undermines academic freedom and ''invites future attempts at intellectual blackmail.''

Mr. Pawlenty, who plans to run for governor, said he had read the book and believed it endorsed sex between adults and children, adding, ''This kind of disgusting victimization of children is intolerable, and the state should have no part in it.''

>>17005661
The book does not, in fact, endorse pedophilia. What Ms. Levine does argue is that the fear of pedophilia is overblown and that the age of consent should be lowered in certain circumstances. Ms. Levine tries to separate what she sees as real risks -- H.I.V. infection, unwanted pregnancies and sexual violence -- from risks she calls exaggerated or even invented. She argues forcefully against abstinence-only education and what she sees as a pervasive tendency to view all manifestations of childhood sexuality as dangerous or disturbing.

''The reaction to the book is an example of the kind of hysteria I'm writing about,'' Ms. Levine said. Conservative groups started attacking the book after she gave an interview to Newhouse News Service.

Ms. Levine, a New York writer who specializes in questions of sex and and gender, also makes a carefully argued -- if untimely -- case that the danger presented by child molesters has been vastly exaggerated, and that prosecutors put ever greater resources into tracking pedophilia and child pornography that would be better spent elsewhere. For instance, while prosecutors sometimes claim that child molesters have an extremely high rate of recidivism -- one of the justifications for sex-offender registration laws -- Ms. Levine has statistics suggesting that it is in fact relatively low. She cites a 1996 study by the National Center for Institutions and Alternatives that concluded that only 13 percent of former sex offenders were rearrested for sex crimes, compared with a 74 percent rearrest rate for criminal offenders overall.

But by far the most explosive part of the book, one that is directly related to the current scandal, has to do with the age of consent.

Ms. Levine argues that sex between teenagers and adults is not always wrong, and that many people are too quick to deny children and teenagers the right to make their own sexual decisions, often by labeling all such contact ''abuse.''

>>17005666
Needless to say, many disagree. Dr. David Spiegel, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University, said that minors were too young to consent to a sexual relationship with an adult, even if they say they want it.

''Most people agree it's wrong for someone to be in a sexual relationship with their boss because of the unequal power balance,'' Dr. Spiegel said. ''If that's true with adults, it's certainly true between any adult and a child.''

Ms. Levine counters that power imbalances are inevitable in sexual relationships. ''A balance needs to be struck between respecting kids as sexual beings and protecting them from exploitation,'' she said.

A model for that balance can be found in the Netherlands, she argues. In 1990 the Dutch parliament made sexual intercourse for people between the ages of 12 and 16 legal as long as there was mutual consent; the law excludes adult family members and authority figures like teachers and members of the clergy. Parents can overrule a child's wishes only if they persuade the Council for the Protection of Children that they are acting in the child's best interest. Children can also bring charges if they feel they are being exploited or coerced.

>>17005656
They may push it, look online for cleansing methods as weed can stay in your system for up to three weeks. Make sure she looks innocent.

This isn't a question of morality. This is a question of best representation for your friend. Truth is. She wants minimal damage. No one's going to hurt a fifteen year old for having sex with an adult man, everyone will blame him. It's not her fault anyway.

He broke the law, and the trust of families that allow their children around him day in day out.

This is a man that abused the good nature of everyone he came in contact with.

Your friend should do as her lawyer and parents believe are best for her, I'm sure everything will be fine from there on.

Love doesn't matter any more, only the justice system.

>>17005670
Earlier this month, legislators in Missouri voted to cut $100,000 from the University of Missouri's budget because of a 1999 journal article by a university political scientist, Harris Mirkin, that questioned whether all sexual contacts between adults and children constituted abuse. Dr. Mirkin, a father and grandfather who says he has no sympathy for child abusers, says he has received threats as well.

http://www.salon.com/2002/04/19/levine_talks/
http://www.alternet.org/story/12960/what_judith_levine_is_really_saying

In the explosive realm of adult-youth sex, many teens say that such relationships can be consensual and positive. And more than a few of us remember having such positive sexual relationships with adults when we ourselves were teens.

"Teens often seek out sex with older people, and they do so for understandable reasons: an older person makes them feel sexy and grown up, protected and special," writes Levine. "Often the sex is better than it would be with a peer who has as little skill as they do. For some teens, a romance with an older person can feel more like salvation than victimization."

Romantic heartbreak -- and plain old bad sex - are just as likely with same-age peers as with older partners.

"Legally designating a class of people categorically unable to consent to sexual relations is not the best way to protect children, particularly when 'children' include everyone from birth to eighteen," she writes.

>>17005656

That's a bad idea for him anyway. It only adds charges, and doesn't change the fact that she's a minor.

Also, a few times won't do anything, weed leaves the body in three days, tops if she doesn't smoke weed every day.

He's going to try and claw at anything to get out of this, but, he's fucked.

Metaphorically, and in the future, probably, literally.

>>17005674

And you know, you're right.

if someone is abusing or coercing someone into a sexual relationship, fine, deal with it. Throw them in prison.

But not when both parties willingly agree to it, and not when it just might be that a dumb cunt that is lying.

>>17005682
So you think if a girl is lying, and there's no proof sex took place, he still should go to prison huh?

>>17005689
>Tells them everything, gives all evidence she has (which is a lot)

There's evidence. Saying he smoked weed with her won't do him much good will it? If anything, the judge might see it as a way for him to coerce her into bed, much like alcohol.

Again. In the eyes of the law, this is a person that not only failed to do his duties as a teacher, which is not only maintain the safety of the students, but, also, not have sex with them. Anything else just indicts him more.

>>17005689
>gives all evidence she's has (which is a lot)
From the OP.

>>17005653

The prison time wouldn't be because of "uncomfortable questions," it'd be because he broke the law.

My point was that it isn't just about the age difference, in this situation. It's also about the fact that he's her teacher. It's an abuse of power, it could easily be considered predatory. That's what I mean by "unethical," it's not the same word as "immoral." This type of behavior gets people fired even if everyone is of legal age, and consenting.

As for whether he gets prison time, that's not my call, that's up to a judge and jury.

>>17005658

I don't even know what to say to this. Why is the 30-year-old predator better? He's obviously got something wrong with him. Again, it's not JUST the age difference, it's the flagrant unprofessionalism and such poor judgment, it suggests the guy isn't fully "connected" to reality. He's got some Peter Pan shit going on, he probably thought they were really in love. To me it's more pitiable than "disgusting," but he certainly shouldn't be teaching anymore, and I don't see why he shouldn't face legal consequences for knowingly breaking the law.

http://thepolicenews.net/default.aspx?act=newsletter.aspx&category=News%201-2&newsletterid=42791

While only the accused knows if he in fact did improperly touch or assault the young girl, it is a fact that children sometimes make up allegations of sexual abuse because they are looking for attention.

Especially when children do not receive much attention from their parents or guardians, they may be inclined to make up stories of sexual abuse because they believe the “attention will be on them.”

Children may even get very specific with details as they expand on their stories.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/19/jackie-the-uva-rape-hoaxster-refuses-to-turn-over-emails-and-phone-records/

http://www.mindingthecampus.org/2015/06/did-mattress-girl-tell-the-truth-not-very-likely/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/20/fakerape-campaign-ridicules-mattress-girl-hoaxer/

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/05/girl-13-lied-about-park-sex-attack-say-greater-manchester-police

A 13-year-old girl told a “terrible” lie when she falsely claimed she had been sexually assaulted in a park, police said.

The girl said she was walking with her friend in a park in Leigh, Greater Manchester, when a man approached her from behind before hitting her and throwing her to the floor.

The girl’s 12-year-old friend took a picture of the man, which was then released by police as they attempted to trace the alleged attacker.

However, Greater Manchester police said on Tuesday that the girls had admitted lying about the attack.

The man, who attended a police station in an attempt to clear his name, has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

Because girls would NEVER lie about sex or rape... right guys?

Too white knight in here.

For the other side of the argument.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/31284684/vic-woman-avoids-jail-over-child-sex/

>>17005610
>The only issue is whether or not she liked them and did it of her own free will, regardless of laws.
nope, the only issue is that he was her teacher.

>>17005703
>It's an abuse of power, it could easily be considered predatory.

So if you're 20 and date a 40 year old, the 40 year old is abusing their power?

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/books/renegade-view-on-child-sex-causes-a-storm.html

''Most people agree it's wrong for someone to be in a sexual relationship with their boss because of the unequal power balance,'' Dr. Spiegel said. ''If that's true with adults, it's certainly true between any adult and a child.''

Ms. Levine counters that power imbalances are inevitable in sexual relationships. ''A balance needs to be struck between respecting kids as sexual beings and protecting them from exploitation,'' she said.

>I don't even know what to say to this. Why is the 30-year-old predator better? He's obviously got something wrong with him. Again, it's not JUST the age difference, it's the flagrant unprofessionalism and such poor judgment, it suggests the guy isn't fully "connected" to reality. He's got some Peter Pan shit going on, he probably thought they were really in love.

So the entire history of human civilization in which teen girls often married to older men was all Peter Pan syndrome to you?

Maybe, just maybe, humans are hardwired. Do you deny this?

>>17005716
>>The only issue is whether or not she liked them and did it of her own free will, regardless of laws.
>nope, the only issue is that he was her teacher.

Then you've got the wrong prerogatives in life.

>>17005723
>So if you're 20 and date a 40 year old, the 40 year old is abusing their power?
If a teacher and a student date, or a boss and an employee date, the "power" in the relationship is unequal, so yes, it is an abuse of power.

>>17005735
So then poor people shouldn't date rich people, as the richer person has all the power in the relationship by having more people interested in dating them.

Younger people shouldn't date older people, because older people have more "power" because they're older, or something.

Power imbalance as an excuse for your reasoning is laughable. if someone fires you or gives you bad grades for not putting out, that's blackmail. It doesn't need to be anything other than that.

I just hope he fucked her right in her pussy and it felt amazing, and he cummed on her sexy perky tits.This man deserves a salute for getting laid by a horny much more attractive teen girl.

/respect.

>>17005723

You completely missed my point. The abuse of power isn't just about the age difference. There's nothing wrong with a 40-year-old dating a 20-year-old, per se. But if the 40-year-old is her boss, or her teacher, then it's a different story. It's like a conflict of interest. It makes it impossible to believe that this person is really focused on their work, or treating their subordinates fairly, when he's also looking for sexual partners among the people that answer to him.

In most situations like that, if they were caught, the 40-year-old would lose his job even if there was nothing illegal about the sex itself. It's bad judgment.

When this failure of judgment ALSO involves an underage girl, it makes you wonder what the fuck this guy is thinking. I'm not even talking about the "legal age of consent" thing. This guy is a SCHOOLTEACHER. He should've been much, much more responsible than this.

>>17005753
I agree with you on the blackmail thing, it results from an actual power imbalance situation, because the person in power has the ability to control aspects of the others life in relation to their occupation (school, work.)

>>17005753
No, this is more about mixing personal and professional relationships. Sort of like being told not to date a coworker. A coworker should have the same amount of "power" as you do, but it's still considered a problem.

>>17005753

>if someone fires you or gives you bad grades for not putting out, that's blackmail. It doesn't need to be anything other than that.

What about someone giving preferential treatment for an employee/student who DOES put out? These types of things can take subtle forms, and there's a reason CLEAR RULES are established in pretty much every school/workplace to avoid these grey areas.

>So then poor people shouldn't date rich people, as the richer person has all the power in the relationship by having more people interested in dating them.

They're not paid to work in the same place. One of them isn't paid to teach history to the other one. If they choose to break up, there's no practical reason they'd be forced to see each other again. There might be a power imbalance, but there's no conflict of interest.

Man, don't act like this is the first time you're hearing about this. These rules are established pretty much throughout the world, for good reason

>>17005615
>being sexually attracted to a sexually mature girl makez you not a good guy

He's a retard sure, but the fact that he boned a 15 year old doesn't make him evil. 15 is legal in almost every country that's not a theocracy except for the united states.

>>17005582

Id tell Susan to retract it and say she made it all up because she loves the teacher and he shunned her.

Don't destroy a mans life, and career.

Its just Sex FFS.

>>17005957
>He's a retard sure, but the fact that he boned a 15 year old doesn't make him evil. 15 is legal in almost every country that's not a theocracy except for the united states.

>>17006008
>Id tell Susan to retract it and say she made it all up because she loves the teacher and he shunned her.
>Don't destroy a mans life, and career.
>Its just Sex FFS


Thank you for your service.

/tear

ironically, its "just sex" when people in this thread are trying to get laid by other girls, but its some huge evil shitstorm of life draining torture if an older guy does it with a young girl.

Can one get Whiteknight AIDs from a thread? I'm feeling a little ill.

>>17005760
>There's nothing wrong with a 40-year-old dating a 20-year-old, per se.

>there's nothing wrong with a 15 year old dating a 15 year old per se. But if one of them is a teacher's aid, is a conflict of interest. If they bone, send the TA to prison.

#Whiteknightlogic.

>>17005647
That is not the fifth amendment, you ignoramus

>>17006165
the fifth amendment is the only thing stopping me from being able to demand a duel from you right now, faggot. And I would so enjoy it.

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>>17005582
kek just tell them her version of the truth

>tfw no matter now matter how much some angry dude cries ITT at this "injustice", the guy is still fucked by the law.

>>17006194
>>tfw no matter now matter how much some angry dude cries ITT at this "injustice", the guy is still fucked by the law.

So you think its okay that a man is sent to prison on the word of someone alone? Loses his job? Gets raped?

You're okay that if he did have consenting sex with her because she wanted to screw, he get raped in prison?

I considered myself a grown ass man at the age of 15 and was able to work and make my own money. I literally could have lived by myself at that age.

I know that's not how everyone is but a 15 year old is far from a child. They know what they are doing at that age. There are some girls at that age that look like they can be easily 20+.

one of my friends is a famous chan girl that fucking loved the attention of men she got from posting her pictures online. Which is incredibly stupid in so many ways because now she has stalkers for life and her images are still getting shared to this day. She posted those like...2007-2008 or so when she was 15.

they are all SFW and not pornographic in any way (some are very suggestive though) but I doubt any of you here would say "I would never have sex with a 15 year old) if you saw em. I bet most of you even have them saved on your HDD right now even.

>>17006272
Make a bet? Post them

I agree that an adult should be able to have romantic affairs with teenagers (from 14 on).
BUT, in this case I do agree that a teacher should not have sex with his students because of the power imbalance thing.

Still, that girl's a fucking bitch, why would she tell everything to the police... If she supposedly loved him kek.

By the way, some people in this thread should read Lolita.

>>17006212
>>>17006194
>>>tfw no matter now matter how much some angry dude cries ITT at this "injustice", the guy is still fucked by the law.
>
>So you think its okay that a man is sent to prison on the word of someone alone? Loses his job? Gets raped?

>You're okay that if he did have consenting sex with her because she wanted to screw, he get raped in prison?

I'm not that guy but he did indeed fuck up. He doesn't deserve prison, though, as he hasn't hurt anyone.

>>17006272
Pls share.

>>17006282
im not going to post suggestive pictures of a 15 year old girl.

Adult pictures of her appear every now and then on /s/. Usually in the "you love you lose" threads.

>>17005582
This actually makes me really, really sad. For everyone involved.

That teacher is FUCKED. And not the good kind. He's going to federal prison as a "child rapist" for doing what human beings have been doing since the dawn of mankind - old men fucking young women. Women used to have babies by 15 in times past... and now this teacher is going to get locked up for it.

Do you guys even know what federal prison is like? This guy could get gang raped with knives held to his throat by gang members while the prison "wardens" (what an ironic term) look the other way and go "yay the child rapist is getting raped woo hooo!" I mean come up people - how fucked up is that? A guy has sex with a girl who - if she were born in literally ANY OTHER ERA or COUNTRY in Europe - would be "of age".... but instead he's going to get gang raped in our shittastic and dysfunctional prison system. I do not think that is "right."

Take his teaching license away, fire him, and everyone move on. The girl had consensual sex. There was no forced entry or rape. The punishment does not fit the crime.

And now the girl has to feel like what she did was just fine. She's sending a man to prison to get gang raped and shanked.... for doing something she wanted him to do. And now she's got the whole world trying to turn her into a victim... for doing what she wanted to do....

None of this makes sense to my logical faculties. I do not think any of this is right.

>>17006272
>>17006312
yeah right

>58 / 2 / 18
kek dont be so mad
what did you do you pedo ?

men go their entire lives holding back their natural instinct to fuck anything that moves. Not only that, but women aren't exactly all that willingly to have as much sex as most men would like. Their entire lives are just a massive fucking tease of wanting to fuck things that don't want anything to do with them.

So when a pretty young girl just openly wants that shit it's no wonder so many guys fuck up. For a lot of men that kind of shit just doesn't happen and when it does their repressed sexual frustration is just fucking bursting out. Why else would we see on the news fucking constantly all of the affairs from celebrities and politicians that happen? You have men with power and money that women actually want to fuck.

Again, that girl while still young (17) loved to fuck older men(still does). She just loves that shit for some reason. Mostly because these older men are very attractive with money and extremely good at their craft. I would get messages saying she fell in love with another married older man and she was sleeping with him and he had a wife and children and she felt bad. Then half a year later same story again. Talented older man with a wife and kids that shes fucking. She asks me "I don't understand, they say they love their family after awhile and stop talking to me why won't he leave them for me". She just has no idea what it's like to be an average man. Just carrying on your daily life when a stunningly beautiful young girl comes up to them and wants their dick. That just doesn't ever fucking happen to the grand majority of guys. They know it's wrong but that sexual frustration building their entire fucking loves and this is whats presented to them. It's not about love. It's just repressed primal desire.

Girls do not understand that. They are use to men coming up to them every day wanting to fuck.

I'm not saying it's right to cheat or fuck an underage girl but it's going against every fiber of your body and instinct.

>>17006378
Has anyone else seen that video of women catcalling men? To see how men would like to be treated like women are?

The guys fucking loved it. It absolutely fucking made their day. The girl would yell to the guy while walking past him "I want your cock" or something like that and the guy would just get the biggest fucking smile on his face right after. Never has he probably ever gotten a compliment from stranger in his entire fucking llife about how hot he is. Literally every guy in the video was like "BEST FUCKING DAY EVER".

>>17006329
and I bet the girl will go on to do it all over again. The next guy will be just as fucked.

>>17006272
>they are all SFW and not pornographic in any way (some are very suggestive though) but I doubt any of you here would say "I would never have sex with a 15 year old) if you saw em. I bet most of you even have them saved on your HDD right now even.

Thats me.

>>17006306
She might get hurt later when they break up, if they'd never involved cops. In fact, thats a sure thing. However, is that hurt going to be any different than falling in love with a lustful 15 year old boy who then decides "we're too different" and goes his own way leaving her heart broken?

For all the teen relationships that happen, how many times have they gone 100% of the way such as marriage and long lasting committment?

I doubt very many. At my old high school, people swapped around a lot after breaking up.

15 year olds can be incredibly lusty. They do use the social convention of calling it 'love' because they're rationalizing their sexual desire. They may even form attachment which will cause them emotional distress when they break up.

This is hardly any different than a 15 year old and 30 year old dating and fucking, and then breaking up later when things don't "pan out".

People who've measured this have studies on this and come to the same conclusion.

>>17006429
with these like this a lot of people have the boyscout mentality. Where, if something is illegal that clearly means that it's bad. Their morals and ethics are determined by the law which is incredibly retarded in so many ways.

There are a lot of laws that fuck over some very good people. More than the public should be comfortable with but we have all be taught that laws=morality.

>>17005582
His professional life (and big chunks of his private life) is over, whatever she does.

The question is how she is going to live with that.

>>17005582
Teachers an idiot for thinking this wouldn't blow up in his face. Hope it was worth it, labeled a sex offender forever and jail time. Hard to feel sympathy for doing something that foolish and short sighted.

Nothing will happen to the girl more likely than not. She'll probably grow up and can make up some sob story about how she was raped by a teacher, write an article about it maybe a bad book. Or she'll just have something to brag about for the rest of her life unaware of the pain she's caused, get married to some poor shmuck at around 30 and divorce a few years later.

Honestly they both sound stupid and terrible.

Oh my word, so much advice. Good and bad.
My little advice: he might like/love him, but it is wrong. She will see that when she is older.
Tell her to be honest. It IS wrong, but nothing she did was wrong.
I mean, who at 15 didn't want to fuck one of their hot/great teachers? I know I would have had a blast... but it isn't right.
So be strong. Hold onto family. It won't be easy, but it is right
Either way, stand by her. She will need that.

>>17006429
>Hormonal 15 year old girl in the middle of puberty, no real life experience. Disturbingly immature and selfish.
> 30 year old man in a clear position of power, can easily manipulate and coerce a child.

This is why there are laws in place...to prevent this sort of thing. No matter how much your 'instincts' or 'hard-wiring' tell you to, there's a good reason people don't usually fuck children.

>>17006910
>This is why there are laws in place...to prevent this sort of thing. No matter how much your 'instincts' or 'hard-wiring' tell you to, there's a good reason people don't usually fuck children.

Bro, childhood was extended past 12-13 only in the 19th-20th centuries.

Teenage was a word that wasn't invented until 1910.

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Williams, Andre. "Jailbait." On Movin On: Greasy and Explicit Soul Movers 1956-70. Vampi Soul, 2006. Annotated by Stephen Robertson.
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I'm running
Yes before it's too late
Trying to get away
From that jail bait

It's a rough temptation
But a common invitation
And a good association
But a quick elimination
That will take you out of circulation
Yes I'm talking about that younger generation

So take my advice fellas
For goodness sake
15, 16, 17 that's jail bait

Now they swear that they're in love
That you and her good stars above
And she's lookin mighty good
Just like a young girl should

Well we try to tell ya no
And let that young girl go
But you you know it all
You have yourself a ball

And now it is too late
As you look from cell number 8
I tried to tell you old mate
17 and 1/2 is still jail bait

So tomorrow's the date
For the trial of jail bait
And this you watch and see
The young girl will go free
And you'll get one to three

So out the door she walks
To another man she talks
Before you can count
From one to eight
Another man in for
Jail bait

Please mister judge
If you just let me go this time
I won't mess with them young girls no more
I swear I'm not gunna bother them Mister Judge

I ain't gunna bother nothin fifteen
I ain't gunna bother nothin sixteen
I ain't gunna bother nothin seventeen
I ain't gunna mess with none at eighteen

I'm gunna leave the twenty year old ones alone too
Gunna get me a girl about forty-two
If you just believe what I say Mister Judge Please Mister Judge I ain't gunna bother them young girls no more

Gimme a break Mister Judge

>>17006938
And feminism created a moral outcry to raise the age of consent because unmarried males and females were fornicating each others' brains out, since younger females weren't married and older males weren't able to find a wife.

Feminists explicitly have stated in historical literature that they want to control male sexuality, and one of the avenues was age of consent laws.

That's why you use loaded language like "fuck children".

You've been brainwashed by the feminists pushing the predator/pedophile hysteria and you're using their words.

A 15 year old is not a 5 year old. Not a child.

>>17006941
>Implying you're not a child when 15y/o

Maybe not a child physically, but the vast majority of teens of this age are literally retarded on their ways. Think about yourself when you where 15, you were stupid and immature. Less than the douchebags you were comparing yourself to, but then still immature.

>>17006970
You know, its this infantilizing process of the new century thats leading to man-childs and woman-childs, people who are 29-33 range and say "being a grown up sucks" literally every week on facebook or twitter.

People can be mature at 15, if they're given the proper messages.

Y'all are completely stupid. Having sex with a subordinate is a flight risk. At the very least don't have him teaching the same class as her. You might just want to transfer him to a different school. Or fire him. Idk, but she has an unfair advantage over other students, if she's dating her teacher, don't she?

>>17005661
>>17005666
Nice devil trips
>>17005670
>>17005674
>>17005679
This is all nice but irrelevant as the problem has more to do with him being a teacher than simply an adult. When it's just a random adult things are much nicer as he can claim thst she calimed she was older, etc.but for a teacher to date a student, there's no excuse.

>>17005582
Tell her to tell the truth and support her. The guy knew the risks and lost, he's not a victim here. It's not like this was some elaborate trap. He knew what was on the line and still went for it.

>>17008096
>Tell her to tell the truth and support her. The guy knew the risks and lost, he's not a victim here. It's not like this was some elaborate trap. He knew what was on the line and still went for it.

He is a victim. A victim of draconian laws and rampant hysteria.

>>17008489
Lol yeah. It's pretty funny t b h

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>>17005582

This thread, again? Keeps coming up, bait thread is go.

>>17006175
You are so stupid it would hurt your brain to think, but it doesn't because you are too stupid to process pain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law

Hocquenghem considered the construction of this new type of criminal – an individual perverse enough "to do a thing that hitherto had always been done without anybody thinking it right to stick his nose into it" – as "an extremely grave step from a political point of view":

"In the case of "attentat sans violence" [attack without violence], the offence in which the police have been unable to find anything, nothing at all, in that case, the criminal is simply a criminal because he is a criminal, because he has those tastes. It is what used to be called a crime of opinion. (...) The crime vanishes, nobody is concerned any longer to know whether in fact a crime was committed or not, whether someone has been hurt or not. No one is even concerned any more whether there actually was a victim."

Hocquenghem concludes that the crime feeds upon itself in a man-hunt, by the identification and isolation of the category of individuals regarded as pedophiles, and the call for a lynching sent out by the "gutter press".

Jean Danet adds that this crime without violence can be used by the state for political reasons, against "inconvenient" individuals: "Incitement of a minor to commit an immoral act, for example, can be used against social workers and teachers. (...) In 1976 in Nantes, a teacher was tried for inciting minors to immoral acts, when in fact what he had done was to supply contraceptives to the boys and girls in his charge".

in France, an open letter signed by psychologists, sexologists and psychiatrists, asking for the decriminalization of immoral acts with minors between the ages of 15 and 18, and in Germany where a whole movement (made up of homosexuals and members of the medical community) protested against a law that criminalized homosexual acts.

bump for justice. Free the man

>>17005658
DESU yes. WTF people. Like having sex with a peer, who gives. Fucking normal shit. BUT YOUR 30 year old teacher, shit is fucked up.

I taught at a school, im 24 MALE, one of my students was 17, now 18 and she wants it badly. Still stalks my ass on FB and everything else, but fuck its still wrong.

Sometimes you guys are insane. AND YES, if it was a 30 year old woman serving a dude shit is still fucked up. Should go to prison. Its abuse of authority, clear and simple. Peers have equal status/power so its completely diff.

>>17005689
Even if both parties agreed.

One party is deemed moral and responsible enough to fucking see the mistake. Like jesus. Imagine you had a daughter, and she was getting it up with her teacher at 15. And ofc the 15 year old is gonna say true love bla bla. she don't know shit cuz she is 15 goddamn.

I personally as a father would go to his house with a baseball bat.

>>17010453
>One party is deemed moral and responsible enough to fucking see the mistake. Like jesus

So you imagine its okay for two people to commit immoral acts as long as neither knows any better aka two teens fucking?

>>17005758
Your a sad piece of shit, 4 real.

What happened to the world? Like i get Mgtow and all that jazz, but really? Imagine it was your daughter.

>>17010461
>What happened to the world? Like i get Mgtow and all that jazz, but really? Imagine it was your daughter.

Am I going to tell my daughter not to fuck people she wants to fuck? If she's going to do it, she's going to do it. What difference if the cock in her is 30 or 15?

Please tell me what reason you think a 30 year old cock will affect her differently.

>>17006008
what about potential other victims? future victims? Would you want the man teaching your daughter?

>>17010466
>what about potential other victims? future victims? Would you want the man teaching your daughter?

>Boy tells your daughter he's in love. He's 15. They fuck. He retracts it. She's hurt.

>"hey, its all legal so wutevs".

That's you.

>>17006329
But he knew the risk though. I mean what IDIOT OF A MAN, puts his life, at risk of a 15 year old fucking teenager not blabbing. Sorry, thats just dumb, incredibly dumb, its not like he couldn't have imagined this happening rite?

Desperate lil fucktard.

>>17010458
Yes, because they are both teens ignorant to the world. The dude is a 30 year old who knows what he's doing is wrong, and still proceeds.

I mean sorry, but then don't complain if you do get burned m8.

>>17010458
are you calling two teens fucking immoral? lol? what are you, a basement dwellling virgin ?
Yeah if my daughter brings home a 15 year old boyfriend, or 17 or w/e what gives.

If she brings home her math teacher, i would be like WTF....

>>17010458
and m8, like i said i taught at a school.

This fucking HOT piece is thirsting for me, 5 year age difference, and i would LOVE to screw her brains out. But i don't cuz its wrong.

She too young to understand, but its fucked up. So instead, i get myself another girl out of the billions out there. Like how desperate can you be. If she still wants to get down in 4 years time, when she a bit older, dope and i would gladly accept, but for know its literally the power dynamic i held over her at a classroom that makes her find me the shit. its just sad, and petty and not worthy of a man to abuse that. If you meet a hot girl - outside of class, in my case 6 year diff i wouldnt care, but i can't do that now.

Be a man, not some prick. that desperate for pussy and that beta to find another option? jesus....

>>17010488
>are you calling two teens fucking immoral? lol? what are you, a basement dwellling virgin ?
>Yeah if my daughter brings home a 15 year old boyfriend, or 17 or w/e what gives.

if fucking isn't immoral, then it doesnt matter what age the participants are if they're both doing it because they want to.

>She too young to understand, but its fucked up

>But its okay to fuck the brains out of someone her own age while she 'is too young to understand'

Do you not hear how stupid your argument is?

>>17010464
its not the 30 year old cock. Its that he is supposed to be her TEACHER, someone who guides her through life, not abuses his power to get his fucking dick sucked.

If he wants his dick sucked, he can find a 15 year old outside of class, jesus too many beta bitches over here 4 real.

>>17010508
>If he wants his dick sucked, he can find a 15 year old outside of class, jesus too many beta bitches over here 4 real.

If that's your only argument than fine.

>>17010500
its because i was her teacher. M8 you don't get it, did you teach?

Let me ask you, how old are you, how many females you slept with?

i'm 24, and slept with 21 girls. Had 2 LTR of 3 years and 2 years, and this dynamic is different, than when you get put infront of a class. That gives you power and status by default.

But you probably never left your room, only read mgtow and are still a kissless virgin, and as hell never taught. Maybe i'm wrong but very curious...

>>17010511
its also the only argument of the justice system... DUHHHH

>>17010474
we all get heartbroken, sooner or later, part of life, i fail to see your argument... If they had a relationship, and they broke up, fine.

>>17010525
>we all get heartbroken, sooner or later, part of life, i fail to see your argument... If they had a relationship, and they broke up, fine.


Then it doesnt matter if its 15 and 15 or 15 and 30

>>17010533
go troll some porn u nutwank.

>>17005619
>This happens between two 14-15 year olds all the time and what do you say then, faggot? Do you tell guys "oh, you're such shits for fucking a girl with a low maturity level"?

I don't understand how people can think this is alright.

It seems obvious to me that there's power dynamics in a relationship and that if one is significantly older than the other, one has far more power and this can lead to exploitation.

Legally, a 19 year old can fuck whoever, but socially people accept that if a 30 year old was banging a 19 year there's an imbalance in that power dynamic. Enough to lead to the 30 year old pushing to get everything their way all the time.

>>17010625
>>17010625

Okay retard, be a 30 year old male and try to ask out every 19 year old and then see if you can get her to do what you want.

Only guys that have social power can use power to manipulate women. If he could manipulate at 19, he can manipulate at 30.

I've said it a million times. Hitler wasn't powerful because he had power. Power was given to him because people were willing to subvert themselvse to him.

if no one had believed in hitler, he would've been an alcoholic art school drop out dead in a ditch.

People don't just magically pull power out of their ass. It is given to them by people who choose to make them powerful.

If a 19 or a 30 year old guy has power over a girl, its because she's giving him power. There's a fine line between being able to get into a relationship and control and abuse a girl, and being seen as a total creep who can't get a girl and get laid.

What is that line? is it looks? is it the way he carries himself? Whatever it is, that's causing him to GET power.

tl;dr, people that bring up superfluous power dynamics are retards. Some guys, for all their trying at 30, cannot get a single hot 21 year old at a bar, or anywhere else.

>>Susan has to testify

She said victim of the alleged crime. Susan doesn't have to do a dam thing.

Personally I would advise her not to just that.

>>17005615

yes, but it happens a lot. Congressman Dennis Hastert was one. lots of closeted pedo fags in high places in gummint.

>>17005621

i have no doubt he was in love. hahahahah

>>17005582
Did susan enjoy it?
Teacher is a dick!

>>17011054
pedophilia is 8 year olds not 15 year olds. A 15 yr old can be pedo too by wanting to fuck 8 yr olds. Age of consent isnt related to pedophilia, and being 18 or older and wanting to fuck 15 yr olds isn't pedophilia.

tl;dr retard.