How do I stop being gay? I can't even remember the last time I fapped to heterosexual porn. Now even the ads I see on news websites are about "finding the perfect guy" and "meet gay singles in your city!"
I really don't want to be gay and find the gay lifestyle and community very unappealing. I hate dated women in the past but sometimes find it difficult to maintain sexual or emotional interest in them.
I find it difficult to reconcile my lack of attraction to women with my shame over my homosexual urges. I've tried to abstain from pornography but it doesn't stop the gay fantasies from happening or being attracted to men in real life.
I want to state it simply: living a gay life simply isn't something I want to do. How do I become straight?
You can't. You're gay.
I understand why you see the lifestyle and community that way. You're looking at the stereotypical, almost "assumed" way that gay people are and live.
That isn't the way that it has to be. That isn't the way that it always is, either. You've just got to find someone who suits you.
Don't like flamboyancy? Then don't hang around a flaming faggot. Pretty simple eh?
You can't stop being gay, but you don't have to be what you don't like about the gay lifestyle and community, whatever the fuck that means. You are who you are, nothing's going to change that.
>>16964531
>>16964564 is me
I forgot to add:
The reason why you're seeing adverts for gay dating is because your ISP/internet browser or SOMETHING is collecting data on what you browse every day. How the fuck do you think online advertisements are so accurate?
>>16964531
Ask Jesus to heal you, repent of your sins and turn to Jesus; don't listen to the deception and lies from the enemy who wants to entrap you in your sins. Read your Bible and pray, pray, and pray
>>16964580
you're my fav poster of all time
dog bless :DDDDD
>>16964564
>>16964566
>>16964576
it's not even that, I just think it's better for a man and a woman to be together. there is something unnatural about men having sex with other men, and I say this as someone who's had experience with both. i could never see myself becoming a flamboyant queer. i dislike that i'm attracted to masculinity.
i know the reason why it gives me those kinds of ads is because of my history of browsing gay porn sites.
i feel very ashamed of my attraction to men and would rather just live a heterosexual life and get married and have kids.
>>16964580
i'm not a christian
>>16964531
Hang around not gay people.
You are influenced by who you hang with
Gain some testosterone
Look for your type
Join Christianity, Live a strict life.
>>16964592
Surely all of the things you're saying though indicate that the problems all lie in your inability to accept who you are and that there's really no problem with gentlemen who are sexually attracted to other gentlemen
The only thing you can do is sort your head out, you're not going to wish the gay away.
>>16964604
>Surely all of the things you're saying though indicate that the problems all lie in your inability to accept who you are and that there's really no problem with gentlemen who are sexually attracted to other gentlemen
Disgusting.
I'm going to go embrace the fact I'm attracted to animals especially monkeys, I'm going to embrace that I like small children too
We are consenting right? IT'S TOTALLY NORMAL GUYS!!!
Your logic is flawed you disgusting queer.
>>16964592
>i'm not a christian
Then become one
And whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Acts 2:21)
>>16964531
OP, it's okay to be gay and not get involved in the stereotypical "gay" things.
I'm gay, and I'm not really any different to any straight guy other than who I sleep with. I don't dress, talk or act differently to anyone else, nor am I involved with any gay groups or activities.
Just live your life as YOU want to. There are a lot of stereotypes of gay people, but that doesn't mean you have to fall into them.
Easy. Just practice celibacy.
>>16964800
I guess I should have phrased the question "How do I become heterosexual?". I've been celibate for quite some time, the last person I had sex with was a woman. She called me back last week... didn't bother answering.
>>16964737
>>16964601
I don't think religion is the answer, but I appreciate your compassion.
>>16964604
>>16964709
>>16964759
I simply think I'd be a happier person if I could live my life heterosexually.
When I see heterosexual couples I feel so jealous of them. They look so normal and well adjusted. I hate how uncomfortable I am with women, and how uncomfortable I am with men.
>>16964837
>coalburner
Lol
You can't stop being gay. That isn't a thing.
There isn't some magical gay life, either. You can be a completely regular gay person -- God knows I know plenty of them. They just have regular people relationships and happen to be gay. Not everyone is a flamboyant retard.
>>16964859
Then what about if you legitimately dont want to be gay?
I am like OP in this regard, I dont want to be gay, I dont like anything about it. I hate being branded as an outcast if I am open about it and I hate not being able to find anyone to be with if I am closeted. I dont give a fuck I just want to be straight. So dont give me the "You Cant be Straight" bullshit. I need a solution.
>>16964949
>>16964837
Look up ancient roman sexuality. There's nothing wrong with having a wife and kids and also watching gay porn or banging dudes on the side, just do what makes you happy.
>>16964975
Actually that degeneracy is what contributed to the fall of the empire
>>16964975
What part of "I want to stop being gay" do you not understand? Saying there is nothing wrong with it isnt exactly getting to the root cause if the problem.
>>16964949
What if you legitimately want to be a blood type O+ instead of an A+? I mean, imagine you're really really disgusted with the fact that you're A, and you're so tired of how difficult it is to get transfusions or whatever, and you'd do anything to change to O+. Tell me, is there a way you can do that?
No. There's nothing you can do, it's just your sexual orientation, like your blood type. You can't change it. It's not just mental, it's not like a fetish, it's deeper than that.
>>16964990
"I don't want to be gay"
I don't want to be white, I'd so much rather be black
>>16964949
There really isn't some way to stop being gay.
Hell, I'm bi and honestly don't give a fuck about it. I still couldn't stop being bi even if I actually wanted to.
>>16964991
>muh bloodtype
I have never faced criticisim for my bloodtype so I dont care about it. It isnt even comparable.
>muh acceptance
Look I dont care, I AM changing it. I dont give a shit what happens, I will not give in to it. So how do I go about doing it.
>>16964999
Except being white isn't a desease.
Not expecting you to get it since wanting to belong to another race is probably a smilar disorder.
>>16964979
No it didn't, that's some bullshit the catholics came up with when they dug up the ruins and found shit like pic related.
>>16964990
>>16964991
It's much, much harder to get rid of sexual interests than it is to acquire them, but it's possible to make them less intense. Mainly by keeping it out of your head. Note that actively repressing it is liable to do the opposite: you have to find ways to clear it legitimately, ie not just telling yourself over and over again "i am not attracted to men".
Stay away from all such porn of course. Install a new browser if you have to.
>>16964991
It's not all that much deeper than a fetish. People can become interested in porn featuring men the same way they can acquire a taste for porn featuring "shemales", futanari (hermaphrodites), furries, other species, etc.
>>16965009
>Look I dont care, I AM changing it. I dont give a shit what happens, I will not give in to it. So how do I go about doing it.
A better example was one above involving race. Imagine a black guy who really, really doesn't want to be black, he wants to be a white European. How does he do that? Or imagine a trans woman who wants to change from XY chromosome to XX?
This shit is like saying "I'm going to change my natural eye colour no matter what! I don't care what happens!"
>>16965016
This guy doesn't seem to be into men due to porn though. You can become interested in men through porn and develop attraction to men like a fetish, but this guy seems to be legitimately oriented towards men as his basic, natural sexual preference
>>16965020
This is what you are doing.
>>16965020
yeah right
>>16965026
I don't know how this meme started
Apples and oranges are directly comparable
Both fruit, both have seeds
>>16965028
>>16965026
Can you explain how?
>>16964949
>So dont give me the "You Cant be Straight" bullshit. I need a solution.
Then just start having sex with women. God knows there have been plenty of gay people who just live a lie like that. Pop Viagra and pretend you're really into it. Shut your eyes, try to fall asleep, and wish for some disease or airborne poison to simply carry you off to death while you sleep.
For real though - There's no solution. Doctors, psychiatrists, and religions have been trying really hard since the dawn of time. They've all pretty much reached the same conclusion - You can certainly force yourself to repress your desires, but you can't make them go away, and for most people this causes them to act out in far stranger, more degenerate ways than if they'd just allowed themselves to find a boyfriend and make the best of it. You can't "cure" yourself. All you can do is make yourself even more miserable than you already are. Or just accept it and make the best of it. It's your life, man
>>16965036
Just like both of the things you listed both involve humans. Same shit different field.
I just want to stop being gay so can I get help on that or are we just going to argue.
>>16965046
Well, is there a cure. If this attraction is there and it is cause for it then how can I treat it.
>>16965060
You can't. That's exactly what I just said. You can control your ACTIONS (force yourself to be with women, deny yourself contact with men) but you can't control your desires. And based on all available human history, forced repression of natural desires will cause all sorts of other issues.
So that's it, really. Either be gay, or be fucking miserable. For some reason, "fucking miserable" still seems to be a commonly chosen option in many parts of the country/world.
>>16965082
If there is no way to treat it, how should I go about getting myself to accet myself. Because that would be an insurmountable challenge. Whether you look at it as indoctrination or simply a visceral response to conform I care not but how should I go about accepting my trainwreck of a sexuality for what it is if I cannot simply fight it off.
>ITT: Ironically butthurt gays
The only problem here is your own internalised prejudices. Accept and be proud of who you are. Maybe instead of trying to "wish the gay away" you could all just man the fuck up and eat a dick?
A lot of incredible people died so you could have the chance to be who you are today and you're throwing that away because you've internalised all the hatred and bullshit from your oppressors, crying and petulantly shouting "but I don't WANNA be gay!" like kids who don't want to grow up.
Seriously, man the fuck up you little bitches. Be who you are. Go eat a dick and take pride in doing it. You'll be more of a man than most straight guys.
>>16965113
It really isn't that bad. Where are you from? Are your family/friends extremely religious and/or conservative?
It does take time, I went through the same feelings in my teens/early twenties. I guess I really got over it when I found out one of my uncles was also gay, and it just hit me like "but he's just a normal guy, he acts normal and everyone treats him normal, I guess it's really not that bad." Like he was just the "always single" uncle and I never thought anything of it until my aunt just casually asked him about his new boyfriend at a family reunion
It's not all "queer and crazy" like you see on TV. I've never lived that way. I've been in a great relationship for 3 years now, we have jobs, we have pretty normal social lives. No crazy methamphetamine-fueled Crisco orgies in weird nightclubs for us.
>>16965016
>No it didn't, that's some bullshit the catholics came up with when they dug up the ruins and found shit like pic related.
Wow.......
A fucking walking meme......
Tbh I have the same type of problem. I'm bi and ok with it.
From time to time I just want to live out all my submissive fantasies , but I feel so fucking terrible by that
The fact that I get turned on by being hardly fucked by a man makes me feel disgusted by myself , I just want to get rid of that shit.
I was bullied when I was a kid and when I start to have these kink thoughts I just feel that if I were to live out these things it would be like accepting defeat by all those faggots who bullied me , accepting that I'M a loser. And I would feel worthless like a slave, without honor and humanity, liek a fucking toy. My life is a great struggle and if I were to be "myself " I would give up that struggle and just degrade myself into an animal. That is my nightmare, to be inferior. In the same times sometimes I just want to let go of everything and .. let it happen.
But of course that comes from time to time, when I'm not in that "cycle" I just feel fine as a hetero guy, and I would crave pussy , dominate women in bed and such stuff, but these dont turn me on like those fucked up kink I have.
I tried gay porn but I did not even got a boner by that , So I dont know if that is just a fetish or not.
>>16965131
I myself am more rationally conservative, my family is hardline conservative and fairly religious.
Aside from that my friends are very conservative and I am the most centrist of my group more often than not. I dont plan on coming out at all but if I had to it would be after I graduate HS.
I guess I should just try and pick up the pieces, I have fought it silently for years because I have only one person I can go to and that is a fairly liberal cousin I have. I may come out to her so I can get some support on this IRL. Anything else?
I'm gay. You can force yourself to be with a woman, but you won't want to be.
Either grow a pair and face the fact that you can't change it or be miserable, fuck if I care.
I'm a straight female with a pee fetish, that's disinterested in the kink community.
Not that this is the same, but I feel like it kinda parallels things.
I come from a straight edge background and my only kink is pee, but it overwhelms my sexuality.
I have had many relationships with people that don't share the fetish and the sex always becomes an issue, since I want/desire something different.
In addition I have met people online that share the fetish where as soon as they start opening up about other fantasies I get scared off. I haven't had sex with a kinky person.
I have also tried abstaining from watching porn for years on end, and then I'll only start mastutbating again when something fetish related peaks my interest. I remember being 13 years old, reflecting in services on my life and trying to make a deal with god that if I stopped watching porn the fetish would go away...(clearly this didn't work). I've also tried exclusively watching other porn, but I never get off and then lose interest.
>>16965150
I think there are two types of gay. First type is the normal gay guy who is genetically hardwired and cannot be changed to like women ever.
Second is the fetish type, these people are always bi. They still are attracted to women and can be with them. But some kind of shit happened (just like how every fetish is born) very probably in early childhood, so the gay fetish arises.
>>16965187
It's tough when you're still in high-school, it's a lot less scary when you're an adult and you have more choice in where you go, and who you socialize with.
It really does help to tell someone, though. So if you're close with your cousin, and you trust her to keep your secret, it'll feel like a HUGE weight lifted off your chest just to say it out loud to someone who knows you.
But you don't really have to make a big thing of "coming out" publicly, like some people do. I don't tell everyone. If it comes up naturally, I don't hide it. If I feel like talking about my boyfriend or something, I do. But I've never really felt the need to go up to people and say "hey just so you know, I'm gay." When I was single, I barely talked about it at all. I have some co-workers where I'm not even sure if they know I'm gay, and I don't really care about it one way or another, it's just never come up in conversation. Maybe they heard it about me, maybe they didn't. You know?
But I don't really tell people "I'm gay" any more often than my straight friends/acquaintances have told me "I'm straight." It just feels weird and forced and I never really feel the need to say it
Fun Fact: You can be gay and/or have a kink and not have to participate in the "scene" or adopt the perceived "lifestyle".
Years ago I was in a polyamorous relationship but I didn't hang out in the local scene (or really advertise the fact in any way) because those people were a big bucket of fucked up. I'm monogamous now and it's fine.
OP, you're gay, accept it. You don't have to be any kind of flaming, you don't have to go to pride, you don't even necessarily have to be out if you don't feel like it. Meet a nice guy, get laid, have a relationship. Or just get laid. But you're gay, deal with it.
If you're gay, so what?! Embrace who you are. Live your life!! Why try to make yourself someone you're not? :(
>>16965244
prolly , when I was 5 my best friend gave me a bj without warning
but that doesn't made the submissive part of me . I mean why?
And how to get rid of it?
I just feel guilty for wanting it
Don't live a lie brother. Who cares what other people think?
>>16965244
Oh and I forgot to add that I believe if the fetish type of gay guy started to cope with whatever the fuck happened to them that started the kink, they'll be able to get rid of that fetish. The same goes for every other fetish too, by the way.
>>16965218
Start thinking about what happened when you were very young that could have started that fetish. What was weird in your childhood?
>>16965246
I will keep this in mind. I just dont want to tell anyone until I am in college that way if my parents do find out and do react badly I will be off in college and have a few months at least to get my shit together.
But yeah I want to keep it as lowkey as possible for now I suppose. I just hope this approach is better than the repression, because honestly being at war with yourself is no fun.
>>16965286
There's a reason Freud's theories are entirely discredited in the west today. It's not always due to some traumatic event in childhood.
>>16965299
It's your life, man. You don't have to tell anyone if you don't want them to know. But it helps a lot to just accept it yourself, in your own head. Just be OK with who you are, and what you want. You're not obligated to announce it everywhere you go. But that shit can be a mind-fuck when you're trying to fight it, I struggled with depression and social anxiety up through the age of 22 or so when I really felt like I accepted it.
It's been pretty great since then. Especially now that I'm actually with someone. Like you, I kept it pretty "low-key" until it was clear that the relationship was getting serious, and I just felt weird about keeping it hidden. But before that, I never really felt much need to make my sexuality a big part of my social life, or personality, or whatever. If people asked me directly or tried to set me up with a girl or something, I'd tell the truth. But that didn't happen all that often, and it just didn't really come up much.
>>16965270
>And how to get rid of it?
Jepp you're the fetish type and this incident fucked a lot harder with your mind than you think.
How to get rid of it? Well think about the day that happened. Think what exactly happened after, before and how did you cope as a kid. Be aware you're not that helpless innocent little kid anymore. Think about the incident, learn how the human psyche works and make yourself aware why you had those feelings/state of mind. Break the incident down to facts and analyse. That helped me to overcome my own sexual abuse and the rape/forced sex fantasies I had.
>>16965326
Just asking but am I the fetish type of gay or am I the "natural" type gay.
And same here I keep my sexual life out of most other aspects of my life. I just need some help straightening out my life (no pun intended). I think what I need is time and just thinking about how I will go about doing this since my mind has utterly fucked itself for months on end.
Thank you for your perspective on this by the way.
>>16965300
It's not Freud's theory it's my own. And if people disregard they do so because they're stupid.
Either way I don't give a fuck if you think I'm right or wrong. I just gave my advice. Everyone is free to either listen to me or not.
>>16965286
>>16965300
Nothing "wrong", I was just confused how people had sex.
>>16965367
At what age? And what did you think happened when people had sex back then?
Keep in mind that if something severe happened it's probable that your mind blocks the memories.
My memories of being abused came back to light when I was in my earlier twenties.
>>16965352
There's no rush. You're young. It takes most people some time to figure it all out and be cool with it.
Just try to take a deep breath and RELAX. This doesn't all have to be sorted out tomorrow. Just wait until you meet someone you're actually attracted to, and give it a try. Maybe try being with a woman, too, if you want. I had girlfriends in high school, and that was part of how I figured it out - I liked their personalities, I developed "crushes," I asked them out, but the feelings just never turned sexual. Whereas I had pretty strong feelings about some of my male friends, so... it all started making sense.
For now, just focus on school and your friends and your immediate future, college or career-wise. Don't let yourself get consumed by endless self-reflection. When the right guy (or even girl) comes into your life, that's what will help clear up all this doubt and worry. It's doubly confusing right now because none of it is "real," it's all in your head, and you're not sure what to think.
>ITT 23 posters 58 Replies LGBT going out on full force huh?
Queers and going to get massacred when Islam comes.
>>16965393
Is that abnormal? Are you used to seeing threads where each person makes 1 post and only 1 post and then fucks off? People are having conversations here
>>16965401
>Is that abnormal
Yes
Queers don't give up on their shrilling and they samefagg some times.
>>16965393
>Queers are going to get massacred when Islam comes
>Unless they're only fucking their underaged boy-slaves. It's not gay if it's your slave.
you know perfectly well that your own culture is just as degenerate as any other, if not more so. But you're violent, too, so you think it's all good, I guess?
>>16965387
Alright I'll just sit tight and take it one day at a time then. Thanks again anon.
>>16965409
I don't think it's "samefagging" when you're carrying on a dialogue over several posts and not pretending to be several different people
>>16965417
No problem, man. You're gonna be all right.
>>16965332
But I can't, I just don't find other causes, that incident just happened and I've gone through my life like if nothing happened, nothing traumatic like that happened afterwards..
I just cant solve it by thinking
>>16965426
Thanks, bye anon.
>>16965393
Muslims are the biggest queers going. They are ten times more hypocritical than Catholics.
>>16965455
>>16965410
>>16965428
Start reading about psychology. How the human mind reacts when put in stressing situations etc. Read read read. Don't think it'll be easy. It took me full six years to fix myself. Be patient. Until you figure it out don't hate yourself and relax.
Also don't forget here's nothing wrong with real gay people, they can't choose who they are and their lives are as valuable as any other humans.
>>16965468
I don't know what point you're trying to make. The radicals are 100% pro-slavery, and 100% supportive of the opinion that you can do anything sexually with a slave, and it doesn't reflect on you at all, because it's a piece of property and not a person.
ISIS is full of faggots just like the rest of the world. It's just that they're so terrified of it that they need to enslave someone, destroy their life, and usually eventually murder them just to deal with the "shame" of their natural impulses.
Sounds fucking great, right? They've got it all figured out. Can't wait for the Caliphate to arrive.
>>16965470
Also don't feel bad about your fetish and don't try to fight it. You're not doing anything with and not hurting anyone. If you get off to gay fantasies do it and don't feel bad about it. Relax and accept yourself. Don't hate.
>>16965487
>>16965468
Once people find out the emperor has no clothes that's it for a religion. Same shit will happen to Islam.
>>16965505
can't happen soon enough, senpai
>>16965386
At age 5, I understood 2 sets of genitals came together to have sex.
I only knew one thing that came out of them: pee, which meant pee must be involved in sex.
I had many fantasies.
My sister (2 years younger) asked me a year or two ago if I remembered the all of the pee stories I'd tell her as "good night stories". I laughed an said "no, haha" and left it at that.
I think I started mastutbating rather young, definitely before I could use the internet.
The issues with the vanilla-ness began as soon as I was acquainted with sex, able to consider wanting anything other than just to explore the basics.
You are what you are...
But as for the community and the "lifestyle"... what you think it is may not be the reality. It´s normal life for most of the people... the flamboyant party animal lifestyle is just a minority of them :)
"gay life" can be just as normal life, but with partner you actually find appealing ;)
Dude you're gay, find yourself the right gay guy and suck his dick! The gay community is a small percentile of the community, don't be a cuck matre d.
How do gays have sex with women anyway?
Dose thinking about women give you an erection?
Wouldn't that make you bi at the very least?
Honestly curious.
>>16966276
op here
the sad part is I've almost never had an orgasm having sex with a woman. usually my penis becomes soft and falls out of her vagina, not joking. i feel like i've let many girls down in the bedroom because of this. a woman i had sex with last month called me back the other week and i didn't even feel like calling her again. what would be the point?
the fact is i hate it but i'm attracted to guys. i'd feel deeply ashamed of being seen dating a man in public, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't dream about it.
Have you been "in love" with any of your partners, or has it all been casual?
>>16965962
There's something wrong with kids who start masturbation that early. There has to be something more to it than your pee story. Try to remember the time before age five.
>>16967149
If you really are op then it seems you are rather gay then you only have a gay fetish. If that's the case accept yourself and stop trying to change yourself. Gayness is not something evil. Only people who judge gay people are evil.
