I'm 24 years old and I feel like every girl I meet is really shitty in some way or another. They all either end up being dumb/trashy/slutty or too shy/boring personality.
Where the fuck is the middle ground? I just want a cute girl that doesn't fuck on the first date, has a brain and a conscience, and has interests/goals in life
>>16937451
We're taken by nice, normal guys.
>>16937451
>I'm 24 years old and I feel like every girl I meet is really shitty in some way or another
>24 years old
Anon the ones worth having as gfs all settled before that.
so yeah this
>>16937455
>>16937467
to expand on that, don't go for girls your own age. Just fwb/ons them but other than that they're mostly a waste of time and energy.
>>16937455
What do you mean "normal"
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>>16937469
Are you saying they're all settled but I should wait until I'm older? Doesn't that kinda just dig me a deeper hole?
>>16937476
Nah I just quoted poorly. Just get with younger ones, at whatever age either now or later. It doesn't really dig you into any holes until you're maybe over 30, and arguably later.
The girls you want as gfs are basically the ones that settle young, so ideally you need to get them before they are 20-22 because after that they'll have settled with some guy. But think hard because most LTRs are kinda overrated, even with nice girls. Just too much time for me but yeah if it's your thing at least make it good.
>>16937476
>What do you mean "normal"
Normal. Not guys who are still in the 'fuck everything that moves' mode, and not guys who are too shy to make a move/too boring to date. Basically the male counterparts to
>They all either end up being dumb/trashy/slutty or too shy/boring personality.
I would have thought that much was obvious
>>16937492
>Not guys who are still in the 'fuck everything that moves' mode, and not guys who are too shy to make a move
so guys who make a move once in their lifetime, and are also immediately very good at it?
>>16937523
No, normal guys who got experience being rejected when they were younger, and then learnt and grew from it.
>>16937492
>too boring to date
How do avoid being too boring?
>>16937545
Have things going on in your life. Have hobbies and interests. Have friends. Talk, don't just sit and stare. Take an interest in other people's lives. Have a personality. Don't internalise extreme attitudes. Talk about a variety of things.
>>16937451
You want this, you want that OP,
but what can you offer to them?
>>16937553
>internalize extreme attitudes
Elaborate
>>16937569
What don't you understand?
You might be the problem, re-evaluate yourself.
>do you contribute intelligence input to the convo
>are you not trashy (trashy can be a variety of things, what does this mean?)
>do you sleep with girls on the first date, or ASAP
>are you outgoing?
>do you keep the conversation going as well as you can?
>>16937553
So basically, be good at talking? That seems hard.
>>16937604
That's not my problem. I was asked how to not be boring, and I answered. I don't want to date a guy who can't hold a conversation with me
There is no middle ground that's just how females are.
That's why married men still have male friends. Because women aren't fun to be around, they're painfully mundane and mostly dumb.
This is why people say "lower your standards"
>>16937538
>normal guys who got experience being rejected when they were younger, and then learnt and grew from it.
top kek
literally
>betas I rejected when fucking chad, who should come begging to be my provider when chad doesn't want me anymore
>>16937649
How does that even make sense?
>>16937649
haha fucking this
I know I rejected you before brian, but now you make good money and i'm hitting the wall, you still want me r-r-r-ight?
>>16937606
Hey now, I appreciate your answers. Just asking for more details so I know where I'm going wrong.
What did you mean by personality? Liking obscure things? Being friendly/outgoing?
>>16937675
I really don't know how to explain what having a personality means, but if you're questioning it, it probably means you don't have one. Sorry.
And don't ask me how to get one, either, because I don't know.
>>16937684
>you should have a personality
>I don't, though
women lel
>>16937691
hahaha I know right women are funny
>>16937691
I'm not going to apologise if men are happy with a flutter of eyelashes and a giggle from girls. That's not my problem.
>>16937649
>>16937659
>>16937691
>>16937699
Why do I get the impression that some of these criticisms are hitting a little close to home? Are you afraid that some other guy might take this stuff on board and actually use it as a means to improve himself, and become even more competition for you? It also smells of samefag
>>16937700
I'm not going to get a personality if women are happy with some lies I told when drunk and a "wanna come watch a movie?" text
>>16937719
Then don't complain that you can't get girls who aren't trashy or boring.
>>16937710
pffft i've seen girls without makeup, they look like boys with long hair
it's just bullshit that a man has to own a home, speak 2 languages, and have porn star dicking abilities to land a decent girl, when women just paint their face and wait for dudes to line up for them
>>16937725
I'm not op btw. I get those girls alright but not through any of your betabucks requirements. That's another thing about girls above 24 by the way, they have an ever-increasing list of minimum requirements, whereas an 18 year old just thinks its cool I have my own apartment.
If you don't want a girl who will fuck on the first date, dont' try to fuck her on the first date.
Oh, and when girls fuck on the first date it means they don't give a fuck about you.
Femanon is killing you guys itt. But her point is those are just litmus tests. You either have those traits already, or she can't get attracted, nothing personal. Get your shit together.
Well you're not gonna find them anytime sooner since you're complaining about it to 4chan. A place full of trolls or miserable, depressed folks.
>>16937451
Well there's two things going on here Anon... first:
> “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Stop judging other people when it's simply to judge. If you're judging when deciding how to take action in your own life, then I would say OK, then that's fine. But don't judge simply to put the other person down or pull yourself up. That's abusive to both yourself and the other person.
Second, yeah, most people have flaws. This includes you. If you don't like their flaws, again, first assess your own flaws. Are you trying to improve yourself so that you're worthy of the people who you're trying to attract? But if you feel like you're really trying and it's not working out, then keep trying. There's really not much else you can do.
I used to agree with you. I used to be so angry at the world, and sometimes I still am. Then I realized that it didn't really matter how hard I had worked to become who I am. It didn't really matter that I tried my hardest to treat others how I wanted to be treated - people are still flawed. They're still going to hurt you, be selfish, attempt to use you, try to force you to do what they think you should do for their own personal gain, etc.
The only thing we can do is adhere to the Golden Rule for *ourselves.* Do it so that YOU know that you tried everything you could to be a better person because that's all you can control and LIMIT the effect other people, who aren't trying as hard, have on your life.
It's OK to accept other people's flaws... but that doesn't mean you have to settle for their flaws in your own life.
I understand this is hard. It's hard for me every day too.
>>16937774
Then go for the girls you want. I was talking to OP and perhaps another anon who wants what OP wants. If you're happy with the girls you're getting - good for you. You're not relevant to this thread.
>>16937736
It's got nothing to do with women if men are happy with that. Speak to your fellow men if you feel wronged by this.
>>16937774
>wanting a normal guy who can hold a conversation and has normal things going on in their lives
>betabux requirements
I'm not even sorry that girls don't want some 4chan autist. Get over yourself if you think that girls should like you the way you are when you're not likeable.
