Which Major is best Major?
>>144343214
I dunno man I like all of them.
>>144343214
The ones that showed tits
>>144345248
Correct answer.
GITS:SAC!Major. Especially in the dub. Hnnnnngh.
manga major
>>144345838
> Especially in the dub
What? Atsuko Tanaka is godtier
>>144345949
Manga Major is best major, Manga GITS is best GITS
>>144343214
manga major, no fucking contest
>>144343214
SAC
GITS:SAC
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn's voice makes me melt.
How do you go from this...to literally anything else?No, seriously, why would anyone, including Shirow himself, even consider making the Major different from how she originally was? Every time someone tried that it was a letdown, you'd think they would have learned by now.
>>144345838
>>144346891
>watching GITS dubbed
I think you can buy bleach on Amazon for a good prize right now.
>>144346878
>>144345838
>>144346891
>muh voice
That's literally all she has going for her and it's not much.
Not much at all.
>>144346913
Both movie and SAC Major is better than the manga version, more attractive aswell.
>>144346946
War is Peace
Love is Hate
Freedom is Slavery
Both movie and SAC Major is better than the manga version, more attractive aswell.
>>144346942
SAC and 2nd GIG are the best GitS.
>>144346946
Shit taste detected!
>>144346985
If you're blind maybe.
>>144345949
>>144346628
>>144347005
All these images just proves that manga version is worse compared to the movie and anime, she's too fucking human, which is not very interesting.
>>144347005
>Appleseed 6 delayed, bookstores panic!
That's not funny, Shirow!
>>144347014
The stories are simply better. I'm not talking about Shirow's fucking art.
>>144347039
>a sockpuppet devoid of personality and aspirations is more interesting than an actual character
>>144347053
>I'm not talking about Shirow's fucking art
well you should be, because the closest GitS ever got to an interesting story was the first movie.
Which means that the only way to properly compare each entry is to pay attention to the visuals above all else.
>>144346942
I prefer girls that aren't all genki all the time. Motoko in movie GITS, SAC, and 2nd gig is just right.
>>144347120
Hah. No.
>>144347083
>a sockpuppet devoid of personality and aspirations
I never watched the movie the post. How is a drinking slut with attitude problems that don't respect authority any interesting as a character? Atleast Motoko in the movie and SAC struggle with her humanity.
>>144347120
> because the closest GitS ever got to an interesting story was the first movie.
Wrong, both the movie and SAC have great stories, the manga on the other hand have nice art and an interesting world and themes, the stories and the characters in the manga is not very interesting. The manga set up the universe and the themes, other artists have then been able to create interesting stories and better characters in that universe.
>>144347174
>both the movie and SAC have great stories.
maybe some interesting premises but that's all.
>the stories and the characters in the manga is not very interesting
At least they're characters. They're underdeveloped but they have a thing that the movies and TV series sorely lack: a personality.
SAC's Batou is as close to a character as the animated versions get. And that's not saying much.
All of GitS shares a common issue: the characters RARELY have a reason to personally give a shit about what they're doing. Once in a while there's a vague revenge plot going on, or one of the main cast happens to vaguely know one of the villains but there's very little to be involved in, and when something that might be consequential happens, it's quickly dealt with and forgotten.
>How is a drinking slut with attitude problems that don't respect authority any interesting as a character?
>Atleast Motoko in the movie and SAC struggle with her humanity.
Bullshit.
animated Motoko never has a struggle with her humanity, the closest they get to a character arc is to realize that she's not a real person (because she really isn't).
Manga Motoko at least has human attributes.
An attitude problem. Drinking habits. A disrespect for authority. A mixture of tryhard cynicism and desire for justice. Friends she actually has fun with (and I'm not just talking about sex).
She's a character.
>>144347367
Just because they aren't over the top chariactures doesn't mean they have "no personality". It's the opposite.
>animated Motoko never has a struggle with her humanity
So I take it you never watched the movie or 2nd GiG?
>Manga Motoko at least has human attributes.
SAC Motoko aswell, just not to the same extent as manga Motoko, which is a good thing because manga Motoko is as human as it gets, which is extremely boring and uninteresting.
>She's a character.
As is SAC and movie Motoko, she's just a different type of character, which fits in better with the world and the themes of the movie/show.
>>144347494
>It's the opposite.
Hell no.
Can you even describe the personalities of the animated versions in such a way that makes them seem even half as interesting as manga Motoko?
You know what? I'll try.
Movie Motoko is introspective, serious and curious.
SAC Motoko is introspective, serious and tough. Also she's the best.
They're also both very careless and distant since they have nothing to care about.
Manga Motoko is short-tempered, energetic, fun-loving yet exaggeratedly cynical but mostly in order to cope with how bad things always turn, occasionally silly, somewhat unprofessional but still competent, and too curious for her own good. There's enough here to create a legitimate struggle between humanity and modern technology. It doesn't happen in the manga, but if Oshii could somehow have made Motoko start out like she was in the manga, then there would have been something like a good story.
>>144347801
>describing the most shallow parts of the anime and movie versions.
Movie and anime Motoko are both questioning their humanity and tries to come to terms with their cyberization while still desperately trying to hold on to the little humanity they have left(the clock Motoko has in SAC for example). Her personality and character matches the overall themes of the world and what it means not just for society in general but to people aswell when we are becoming more machine than human.
manga Motoko is an alcoholic slut who doesn't respect authority and likes to insult people around her, she's so human that you wouldn't even notice her being a cyborg unless it was mentioned.
>See? I can do it to.
>>144348126
>questioning their humanity
what humanity, though?
All you can wring from such non-characters is a little cheap pathos (which you seem to love) but at the end of the day, it's ridiculous of them to even consider themselves human, and there's no drama that could come from it.
They didn't give up on their human personality because as far as we can tell, they never had one, they've always been shown as robots who vaguely believe themselves to be human.
SAC major personality with the original god tier hair2nd GiG was so boring holy fuck
>>144348618
>personality
what?
>>144345949
Correct answer anon
>>144348618Yeah 2nd Gig was wasted potential. So was the movie.Although I actually like Arise, so don't trust my opinions
I like the Major with the lesbian harem
>>144348951
I haven't seen Arise, why do people not like it?
>>144349132Too hung up on S.A.C to try something new.Arise has its flaws but it's defiantly worth checking out
>>144348126
All the animated versions of the Major strike me as characters who should have been secondary characters or maybe antagonists, because fundamentally, they're victims. Their character arcs consist in realizing that they were fucked from the beginning and that there's no hope for them to ever be human again, which is something that works best for antagonists who have been pushed to the edge and choose to become monsters as a last ditch effort to escape their issues, or for pathetic side-characters who are just collateral victims of progress.
Protagonists are people who fix their problems, or who at least have a reason to hope that they can fix them. Which isn't Motoko's case.
Manga Motoko mostly acts on a whim with little consideration for her own interests, but there was potential for dramatic situations and tough choices in her characterization.
>>144349132
Motoko is ugly as creepy as fuck, which is a very legitimate reason to not like it.
>>144349279
You have a very limited definition of what a protagonist can be
Arise Motoko is best because she looked realistic.
Other designs are just fapping material.
>>144349418
She did look realistic.
Cyborgs would be atrocious to look at in real life.
>>144349389
I think it's pretty vague. I guess you could go even vaguer by saying "the protagonist is the guy whose perspective we follow."
Maybe I should have said "heroes" instead. But then you would have said that it's too vague since heroes typically uphold values instead of merely trying to confront their problems.
Movie major
>>144349418
Yeah she did have a more down to earth feel
>>144349466
>Atrocious
She looks fine. There's some quality in Arise, but overall the design looks good. This is the most human like major we've had so far, so it fits she has the most human like design.
>>144349568
>she looks fine
>most human-like design
I'm pretty sure she was designed specifically to look LESS human than the previous versions.
>>144349537
Movie Major is best if you have a doll fetish.
She looks like she was made to wear pretty dresses full of frills and be engaged in a passionate romance with a tin soldier.
Which kind of happens but in a very unfulfilling and scary way.
>>144343214
Movie major.
Manga major has maximum headpat potential
>>144347367
>All of GitS shares a common issue: the characters RARELY have a reason to personally give a shit about what they're doing. Once in a while there's a vague revenge plot going on, or one of the main cast happens to vaguely know one of the villains but there's very little to be involved in, and when something that might be consequential happens, it's quickly dealt with and forgotten.
With the exception of Togusa they're all basically professional soldiers. As such their motivations are generally centered around the challenge and adventure of doing what they do as well as maintaining and protecting loyalties. The money is also a motivating factor, with everyone but Togusa basically having no choice but to work as they don't even own the bodies they inhabit.
Manga Motoko is literally the same character as all the women in Shirows mangas. I know he has a type he likes but jesus christ.
>>144350615
Yeah and that's fine as a premise for them to get involved in stuff they actually care about as persons.
There's a reason why almost every cop drama involves the protagonist going rogue or quitting his job: because professional obligation isn't a very compelling or interesting character motivation.
>>144343214
Oshii movies Major. No contest.
>>144348618
>2nd GiG was so boring holy fuck
Wow, that is a shit opinion you got there buddy
>>144348951
>Although I actually like Arise
Yeah, that explains everything, your opinion is fucking shit.
>>144350733
but jesus christ what?
It's a really great character archetype that deserves to appear even more often in fiction.
And no, it's not "literally" the same character; all his female protagonists (let along all his women) have different personalities even if they're very similar.
For example, Deunan, who's as close to Motoko as it gets, isn't a huge slut, isn't automatically hostile to strangers, and isn't as interested in intellectual shit as Motoko. And obviously she's not a cyborg and has no particular feelings one way or another about them.
>>144349418
>Arise Motoko is best
>>144349568
>She looks fine
Yes, of course
>>144350765
Eh, I like that aspect a lot. I can see why it lacks mainstream appeal, but I think it is great how it avoids cliched drama. There's not a lot of media out there with professional soldiers discussing hacking and philosophy and the human condition, so I'll totally give the lack of a conventional character arc a pass.
![jim-parsons-big-bang-theory-main[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eRFMyYn.jpg "jim-parsons-big-bang-theory-main[1].jpg")
>>144350930
Looks like a fish
>>144350930
Goddamn even when she's making faces manga Motoko is less scary.
>>144350930
>>144351014
W-WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY WAIFU?!?!?
>>144349418
>I can get ANY body
>So, of course I'll get a normal realistic one over a sex goddess
Yeah, logic.
>>144350963
>it's great how it avoids cliched drama
it tends to avoid drama altogether, really. Which makes their discussions about philosophy and the human condition kind of weightless.
So if there's not even a satisfying (or even conventional) character arc to hang onto, it boils down to slice of life with characters who aren't as interesting as the premise suggests.
Which is very close to what I would call "bad writing".
>>144351048
Oh but there's more to come.
And once it comes out, the question will no longer be "which Major is best Major?" but "which Major is WORST Major?"
>>144350925
It's really lazy, and possibly a bit creepy that he can't write a female protagonist without giving her bangs and making her a petulant child to some degree or another.
>>144351176
Duna Typhon isn't a petulant child at all, she's very mature and serious.
Same with Sybil.
And if you find this level of childishness creepy, I can only guess that you've only been watching SAC on repeat and maybe one or two horror anime ever since you got into weebshit.
>>144351102
She wanted to lay low.
She is a cop after all.
arise was great
GREAT!
>>144351106
Well, there is generally the arc of the case itself, but I can see the slice of life analogy. I think that works very well for the intended audience though. The series is really niche, and I think the cyberpunk or military geeks that really get into it welcome just immersing one self in that world for a bit.
I have no interest in slice of life as a genre generally mostly because I don't care about the mundane struggles or experiences of fictional girls in high school, but following the daily life if some spec-ops cyborgs in a semi-realistic cyberpunk setting is great.
>>144351106
>it tends to avoid drama altogether, really.
There's plenty of fucking drama in both the movie and SAC. I would call the second episode of the SAC with the guy who have put his brain into a tank very emotional and with lots of drama. There's the entire arc with Hideo and Motoko in 2nd GiG. Most of the episodes have good drama and compelling stories.
>>144351282
Up until Arise it's always been made clear that Motoko's body is fairly frequent. There's usually at least one character who has the same body as Motoko and it's treated like no big deal, precisely because almost everyone who goes for full-body conversion wants to be a sex object.
>>144343214
shanghai major tbqh
>>144350930
Deformed panels doesn't mean she looked ugly always. That's animators fault for being off model.
>>144351261
>I can only guess that you've only been watching SAC on repeat and maybe one or two horror anime ever since you got into weebshit.
With the addition of a couple of space opera series this is absolutely true.
>>144351331
That tank episode did have drama but it was really super fucking cheap, and the main cast had no reason to care other than to do their job. And it's like that for most of the series.
As for the movie, it had no drama, because it had no stakes.
>>144351327
I also get the appeal, it's what drew me in, I was just very disappointed so it wasn't enough to keep me engaged.
>>144351465
Well here you go then. You can see more childish people in real life on a daily basis, and by anime standards this is nothing.
Shirow's protags are simply designed to be able to fit in some light-hearted comedy every once in a while.
>>144351335
She was inexperienced and confused at that time. It makes sense she would prefer a normal body before being confident enough to choose a superior one.
>>144351649
That's some damn good live-action.
You can almost hear the Uniqlo background music and smell the Starbucks coffee just from looking at it.
>>144343214
I thought movie Major was the best.
She looked the most robotic.
>>144351807
Too bad there was no malfunction ahegao scene.
>>144351547
I mean sure, standards were never great and have fallen even further since Shirow did his thing, but that does not change the fact that his writing is pretty shit in that regard. Other people have managed to produce varied characters in their works while his are all variations on a theme, both in look and writing. Hell, even the porn he draws looks the same.
The fact that Shirows subject matter is usually pretty serious makes the dissonance between his driven and seemingly professional protagonists and their sudden lapses into genki-genki jokes, slapstick or petulance even more jarring. It's not an enjoyable change of pace to just disregard tone like that, which is why the less input he has in the adoptions of his work the better they turn out.
>all these people who think shallow philosophy is better than actual philosophy discussed vaguely
>all these people that didn't understand SAC
>all these people that think Shirow isn't just a wank artist
That said in terms of the Major's attractiveness
SAC = Manga > movie > anything else
In terms of personality
SAC > Manga = Movie > anything else
>>144351924
Was there even anyone ITT saying SAC was bad?
>>144351889
I'd say the problem lies with Shirow trying to tackle shit that's way too serious for his style, rather than the other way around.
Because even if you find all the shit he says interesting, it's obvious that he struggles to convey his ideas in an intelligible and elegant manner. However, his storytelling and comedy are excellent when they aren't bogged down by clumsy attempts to Really Make You Think.
new major has some nipples in the first ova, so she wins by default
>>144351965
"no impact because characters don't have personal motivations for doing their job"
>>144352148
I'm still hesitating to call it bad, though.
I mean it's still competently done and it holds up even if it's mostly just tacticool masturbation.
But it's boring outside of that.
>>144352148
>discussion on character motivations
>add odds with the shows philosophy
>>144351889
Compared to SAC Shirow is a master of blending seriousness and comedy.
At least in his case, the comedy is spread roughly evenly among the character cast, while in SAC, all the silly childlike slapstick shit has been concentrated in the Tachikoma, which results in an even more jarring tone since when the Tachikoma are doing their antics, they're the ONLY characters doing silly shit while everyone else around them is being mostly serious.
And on top of that I find the Tachikoma really obnoxious with their chirpy voice and smartass kid humor.
>>144352205
>it's boring
I don't understand this. What were you even expecting? It's closer to the manga than any other GITS has ever been, stories are cases handled just like in the manga (but with less of a focus on showing Motoko naked or acting like a kid), and overall the "main story" for each season + SSS were expertly done and had a lot of political + philosophical discussions.
You keep saying scenes had no impact but the manga and the movie have zero stakes and no suspense save for certain "arcs" of the manga. Hell, the movie is mainly cool scenery with occasional vague philosophy that has been done to death. Something that SAC rarely does precisely because it's already been done way too much.
The classic Playstation major
>>144352354
Oh but the manga's storytelling sucks as well, it's Shirow's worst manga in my opinion.
It's just that at the very least, it's drawn beautifully, the characters occasionally crack a joke and have FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.
>>144352434
They also crack jokes in SAC, but as adults and not goofy out of place characters. Same with expressions, they're realistic and not exaggerated like constant shark teeth or Batou acting like a monkey on cocaine over half the time.
Those REALLY detract from enjoying whatever story each chapter was telling and it's hard to take any of them seriously when they can't keep themselves from making an unrelated stupid joke in every two pages.
>>144352354
>and overall the "main story" for each season + SSS were expertly done and had a lot of political + philosophical discussions.
this never prevented anything from being boring, quite the opposite.
>>144352032
I can see that. I don't think I'd be as bothered by his protags if he was just your run of the mill 80s shlock mangaka. I just don't see why anyone would want to mix their cyberpunk with something out of Ranma.
I'd place GITS:SAC on the far right of the Shirow sillyness spectrum, and obviously that's my favorite. The Tank Police anime would be pretty far towards the left. If it was a tad more silly and I could judge it without seeing it as yet another example of Shirows lazy writing it could be a fun 80s satire. I can't though, so he remains a lazy author with no sense of tone.
>>144352620
>being boring
That says more about you.
>>144352592
Batou has facial exppressions.
Sometimes Togusa.
That's about it.
And their "adult jokes" are so unnoticeable I can't remember any of them. But ok, let's say you found the humor more tasteful.
Once again you seem overly focused on the story when it has never been a strong point of any GitS entry. Not of the manga, not of the anime, not of the movies.
The main draw of GitS has always been the visuals and SAC is rather lackluster in that department.
>>144352620
So to sum it up, you're not interested in the meat of GITS and can't understand basic concepts broken down for the audience, therefore the talking segments are boring and so are the action ones because they're well done.
I'm at a loss. What did you want? Cyberpunk battle shonen? Slice of life with adults acting like little kids? Revenge show? What is it? If you were disappointed you were expecting something, what was it? Can you tell me? Do you even know?
>>144352339
His "blending" corrupts the characters. We're never expected to take the Tachikomas seriously, so them being shit, while unfortunate, is ignorable.
>>144352592
>They also crack jokes in SAC, but as adults and not goofy out of place characters.
This. I like SAC Major's dry, smug smirk.
>>144352628
I don't think Shirow was involved in writing either SAC or the Tank police anime, though.
>>144352751
The characters are only interesting thanks to the humor and their attractiveness
not because they're serious or smart
>>144352752
this is literally nothing
>>144352719
>GITS has always been about visuals
That's why all of them tackle the issues of cyborgs and humans, what it means to be human, technology and the dangers of a government with too much power behind its system.
So just like I said in my original post, you just didn't understand GITS and doesn't like the one adaptation that the author approved of the most because you know better than him and the director what GITS is about.
>>144352720
the meat of GITS doesn't deserve anyone to be interested in it, though.
Yeah, everything you mentioned sounds legitimately more interesting.
>>144352719
>Once again you seem overly focused on the story when it has never been a strong point of any GitS entry. Not of the manga, not of the anime, not of the movies.
>The main draw of GitS has always been the visuals and SAC is rather lackluster in that department.
The Movie and SAC are in fact lauded for their themes and stories. Your opinion seems so incredibly off base to me.
>>144352811
>I can't care about what a character has to say only how much I can jack off to them
Ah, it was just Shirow posting. Go back to your manga about niggers fucking oily girls in swimsuits.
>>144352811
>>144352860
So to strawman a bit. your argument seems to boil the question down to "GitS is shit. Which Major is best fapbait".
>>144343214
SACThose beautiful pink lips just got me good>she'll never give me a peck on the cheek, smile and then pat my head
>>144346913
original is too cartoony, it's ok in the manga but won't work in anime..
>>144352882
>The Movie and SAC are in fact lauded for their themes and stories.
Wrongfully.
>>144352620
>>144352696
>>144352720
It's legitimate criticism. GITS:SAC is for the same kind of people who went out and read the books given offhand references in the Matrix. It's niche as shit, and most people will find it pretty boring, which is what makes it such a wonder that it got made in the first place.
There's no point in trying to defend GITS against a subjective statement like that, and no real point in saying that the poster has bad taste either. Clearly GITS is not your thing so go watch something else.
>>144353011
Sure bud.
>>144353011
>everyone is wrong and I'm right, I don't care about the story I just want to jack off and they don't give me enough fap material so it's not interesting
Fuck I forgot it was summer again.
Last (You).
>>144350930
>Yes, of course
Picking out an off model shot isn't really a great argument against Arise when Standalone Complex couldn't keep the Major on-model for even two consecutive episodes.
>>144352940
Generally, the least boring.
Being fapbait certainly factors in that, but if I were only taking that into account, I'd probably put SAC Major above her since she wears less clothing.
But since she doesn't express emotions, has no personal interests, acts the same way around everyone, and doesn't seem to care about anything, I have to admit that she's less interesting.
>>144353084
I wish I could care about the story, if it wasn't so unengaging for the multiple reasons I mentioned and that you're suddenly ignoring.
>>144353047
>a philosophy series is about philosophy
Wow it's for people who are into it, and also nice action scenes? Clearly not, and everyone including the author and studio are wrong.
Though it makes sense considering you never actually read the manga, only jacked off to the naked girls and called it a day.
>>144353161
It's a poor philosophy series, the manga is a poor philosophy manga.
>>144353194
Dear god what
>>144353161
Replying to wrong person and also did not read my post. I like GITS, I'm just saying that there's no point in telling the guy who says that he finds GITS boring "you are wrong".
>I think we're looking at another Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex™
I hated how they name dropped the show a few times
>>144352832
I understood it, it's just that what it tried to make me understand was either completely irrelevant and uninteresting, or so obvious I didn't need to have it shown to me.
So all I'm left with is: does it look good, and are the characters endearing?
>>144353258
There is if his reasons are wrong.
"I don't like strawberries" is one thing, "I don't like strawberries because they're made of wood" is something else, and also wrong.
Also
>defending GITS
>"GITS is not for you look for something else"
>>144353515
Your going to fucking love thew new movie
>>144353515
Fuck my sides anon. The fact that they kept saying STAND ARON COMPREX at the final episode was killing me when I watched it.
>>144353822
Your analogy would work if I had said anything inaccurate about GitS, such as "it's really enlightening" or "the story is very engaging because the characters have satisfying arcs". But I said the opposite.
You may find these problems trivial but they prevent me from caring about what you claim is the meat of that franchise.
>>144353971
Neither of those are what the franchise is about. The only concept they don't assume the viewer already knows is "stand alone complex", and even then it doesn't pretend to be enlightening, unlike the Matrix's "what if we're all brains in pods think about it lol".
You're saying you don't like an iteration of a franchise that is the closest to its idea because it doesn't deliver things it never said were important.
And even those things aren't true (only the latter), don't apply to the one iteration you like and have nothing to do with "visuals" unlike what you said.
I'll ask again. What were you expecting?
>>144354274
I'm talking about the entire franchise here, not just SAC. The manga clearly has some pretty big pretentions even if it doesn't take them too seriously, and the movies exploit them a lot.
>What were you expecting
I was expecting something on par with the PS1 cutscenes or at least a cheaper version of the movie. Something nice to look at, maybe with a spooky noir atmosphere, or at least with cool action (which is in fact rather low-key and not very spectacular in the series since you seem to be focusing on them) .
And maybe a more competently done characterization than in the movie.
To be fair, I dived straight into the series after having watched the movie, back when I had just gotten the internet, so I didn't exactly do a lot of research to set up my expectations to a more reasonable level. Even then, dull characters in dull stories, delivering their insight in short bursts without it having any impact, and doing so rather humorlessly and without melodrama, is still a boring experience no matter your expectations.
At any rate, the only enjoyment I found in consuming that franchise came from visuals and endearing characters in the manga's case.
>>144346922
GiTS dub is great
Batou is best boy
>>144354731
Just watch something from Makoto Shinkai if all you want is visuals and don't care about the story.
>>144354998
Once again, I told you why the story failed to make me care about it.
I shouldn't have to force myself to care. I tried, though.
so did they ever tell us if the major was actually a guy in a prosthetic body?
>>144355100
Did you watch 2nd GIG?
>>144355100
in every non-SAC storyline she's explicitly female so it's safe to assume she's one in SAC too
>>144355100
That was never even implied.
>>144348882
>>144352771
Indeed which is why I think they're good example of either end of the spectrum. Whoever was in charge had the good taste to keep the tone more or less to one side or another, something which Shirow lacks.
>>144355709
>>144355142
>>144355127
>>144355100
It's pretty explicitly SAC canon that she was trans as a young girl and then got a body that fit her gender after the accident.
>>144357277
TUMBLR GO AWAY FUCK
>explicitly trans
>literally has her as a girl in all flashbacks
Amazing. Fucking idiot.
>>144356959
Shirow has done a purely comedic story: Dominion: Phantom of the Audience, and from what I gathered, his two CD-rom mangas (Gun Dancing and the other one) are very serious crime stories.
And as much as I like Shirow's humor I think that Dominion Conflict was way more tasteful than Phantom, precisely because there was enough serious elements to it to make the comedy more appreciable. The comedy was also evenly spread out throughout the entire thing, which prevented it from being tonally inconsistent.
As for the GitS manga, the slapstick elements are mostly contained to parts of the story where nothing is happening (such as the end of each chapter), the only elements that are really comedic no matter the tone of the scene are the Fuchikomas.
Which is also the case for Tachikomas. As I pointed out, the tone inconsistencies are a lot more jarring in SAC.
Ghost in the Shell was always a clusterfuck, the closest it ever got to an efficient, consistent and impactful work was the first movie because it tried to only keep the serious elements of the manga and remove everything that made it confusing or light-hearted. But since it was at the expense of relatable, human characterization, what's supposed to be the main stake of the story (Motoko's identity) is negated since she's barely developed in the movie.
Maido Motoko a best
>>144357366
You always this easy?
>>144358759
if only she didn't have Gollum's facial morphology.
>>144358759
Is this Code Lyoko?
>>144346913
Because hair styles change.
Looking at the Major today with 80's big hair would be absurd.
>>144359567
Better is never absurd.
Anyone else really like Ghost in the Shell and also really fucking hate almost all threads about it?
>>144360898
nah
I don't really like it.
>>144347005
This is gay
>>144362321
Kurutan pls don't be jealous.
>>144350733
But i like those kinda women.
>>144362896
Please!
They can hardly hold their liquor!
Seska, on the other hand, gulps it down like it's mountain dew!
>>144360898
I'm only here for the images, m8
>>144348882
From left to right
2>6>4>1>3=5>>>7
Striclty speaking about desing, not personality.
>>144364939
back to /k/ with you, tacticool babby.
>>144364838
fair nuff breh
I wish SAC was also in manga form. Arise's prequel series is similar in tone though
Posting best Major
>>144366018
Back to your containment thread
