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OP confirms this is the true secondary love triangle
>>144030423
It's even more unequal than the main one since Roid went full evil modo and he has literally no chance to win Heinzbowl.
My boy Gamlin cameo when?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv_snapshot_08.01_[2016.07.11_12.35.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4Ofz8t7.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv snapshot 08.01 [2016.07.11 12.35.10]")
Well this confirms it.
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>144030594
Confirms what?
>>144030635
Keith and Heinz are not blood related because the concubine cucked the king.
Not blood siblings = no obstacles to keith winning Heinzbowl
Oh yeah and Roid dies somewhere
>>144030635
It confirms that NUNS should no glass the whole Windermere because there are 10/10 cuties there just waiting to bear human's children. GAS Knights only.
>>144030735
They have the same father - Gramia, but different mothers (concubine and the actual queen). They are still blood related.
MUH WIND
MUH WINGS
>>144030735
But that was on the website
By far the most boring and shitty episode so far.
Oh well, we can only go upwards from here.
>>144030745
But knights are 10/10 cuties too
>>144030964
>Most boring episode
No that's ep 14 title
>>144031157
I've forgotten what happened in ep 14 actually. But wasn't there at least fights?
>>144031227
no battles, just best girl taking her clothes off.
>>144031292
Right. That episode wasn't so bad, at least not nearly as dull as this one.
>>144030964
What are you smoking? It was great. Coronation scene, Windermere declaring war on the rest of the galaxy, NUNS getting owned, we got to know quite a lot of new details. What did you want out of the episode?
>>144031324
>Coronation scene
We already knew this was coming, it was nothing special. Just blah blah now you're king and some cheering. We've seen it 100 times.
>Windermere declaring war on the rest of the galaxy
What a shocker.
>What did you want out of the episode?
Substance.
>>144031324
Not him, but
>new song
And no, OP doesn't count
>>144031403
>Just blah blah now you're king and some cheering.
Yeah, there was no hint at a conflict of interests between the Roid and the older windermerian pilots or anything.
>>144031418
>And no, OP doesn't count
Why doesn't OP count? New ED last week, new OP this week, new Freyja song next week. Constant stream of new songs
You'd think a smart guy like Roid would know when to cut a deal, rather than expand the war. It's like he assumes that there is no counter to the song. All he succeeded in doing is making his enemies expand from a group of idol mercenaries to several trillion aliens at least.
>>144031403
>Substance.
This episode was nothing but substance. If anything there was maybe a bit too much. I would call the episode boring because I wanted the fight to be longer but I wouldn't say there wasn't any substance to it because we haven't had a single episode truly focused on the Windies in the whole series
REMOVE WINDIMERIANS
>>144030558
I'd fucking kill for best girl to appear
Really I'd just be happy with more covers of Fire Bomber songs
Gas the Windkikes!
Windwar now!
>>144032042
Rely too much on covers and the show starts to lose it's musical identity
>>144032157
But Fire Bomber is the best Macross band yet. Japan thinks so too.
>>144032157
We're nowhere close to "too much" in Delta so far
>>144031570
He is blinded by his Protoculture boner. Fanboys should never be in charge of any decision.
>>144032569
As I see it, he's making haste because of his short lifespan. Sure, they might sustain their little empire for as long as he is around, perhaps even for as long as Heinz is around, but chances are it would get beaten by the earthlings and their superior lifespans after 1 (windermeran) generation. So he's moving in for the kill to eliminate the threat of earthlings permanently.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_12_[0F7D9584].mkv_snapshot_08.10_[2016.07.11_22.40.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w6gvHxE.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 12 [0F7D9584].mkv snapshot 08.10 [2016.07.11 22.40.56]")
I still don't understand lots of things about Roid. Like this for example. Was it just an act? Why would he act before Keith?
>>144032963
Maybe he has gotten more confident about their chances now
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_11_[18119710].mkv_snapshot_08.50_[2016.07.11_22.44.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1zVKPlq.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 11 [18119710].mkv snapshot 08.50 [2016.07.11 22.44.16]")
Or this. Roid told this to himself. What did he mean by this?
>>144033076
Winderniggers are going to kill their number one enemy: Time
>>144032963
That was back before the Sigur Valens became a thing that worked
>>144032963
He seems to have had a change occur to him since the end of episode 13, when he rune communicated with the dying King.
>>144032963
Roid is more Shimpi than Mikumo. It's impossible to tell if he's a keikaku doori, a crazy Nationalist, or if he's just being used by Ipsilon to advance their cause.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv_snapshot_08.15_[2016.07.11_16.51.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bLJm7vd.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv snapshot 08.15 [2016.07.11 16.51.31]")
>fighter pilot without depth perception
yeah okay
>>144033368
He has 6th sense instead.
>>144033368
Don't forgot the KAZE
>>144033417
it still has to be a handicap, or he could just fly with his eyes closed
>>144033465
He's already done that while fighting Messer.
>>144033465
>it still has to be a handicap, or he could just fly with his eyes closed
Isn't that essentially what he did?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_13_[B2027CA9].mkv_snapshot_20.28_[2016.07.11_12.59.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XwazK82.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 13 [B2027CA9].mkv snapshot 20.28 [2016.07.11 12.59.42]")
>>144033368
>takes damage on the right
>injures his left eye
okay
>>144033775
he also crashed his entire plane after that
why do these things not have ejection systems
>>144033821
They have. Have you forgotten NotBellry? It probably malfunctioned.
>>144033775
>Bogue crashes his plane
Onore, chikyuujin!
>Keith crashes hi plane
Put in a coma, loses an eye.
Why.
>>144033872
karma
>>144033076
It's a very popular speculation that the Windermerean lifespan restriction of 30 years might be resolved towards the end of the series.
>>144033872
>Bogue
Shot in the leg
>Keith
Shot in the everything
>>144033368
Everyone knows eyepatches make you stronger
>>144033925
Don't tell me Roid cares about Windermerians and he is conquering the whole galaxy only because it can somehow prolong their lives. That would be very shitty plot move.
Now that Keith is alive and kicking, do you think Mirage will be Bogue's opponent?
>>144034042
Not until she powers up
>>144034095
That might be basis for her to (finally) get some character development in.
>>144034095
will she ever?
>>144034167
What would be the point of her character otherwise? Right now she's just there
>>144034206
maybe there is no point, other than for oppai every now and again
This show has become quite boring to be quite honest family.
>>144034295
It's heating up now, I don't understand your point of view
>>144033775
>initial hit damages his helmet
>ricocheting debris in cockpit hits his left eye
Though it's probably for character design reasons and they just didn't pay attention to a small detail like that because they have more important things to worry about.
>>144034038
Not necessarily. It's been stated that Roid is a scientist and that he's delved deep into the study of protoculture. Do you not find it odd that all the other descendants of the protoculture also possess superior strength and yet don't suffer the same fate as Windermereans with a 30 year lifespan? So why were the winds (the last species that the protoculture made) born with such a restriction? Perhaps during his investigations he found something and is working to reverse that effect. Probably not for the sake of his people, but for the sake of the Windermerean pride. If anything could blue their downfall, it's their longevity. That's their #1 enemy. If they can get rid of that, Roid probably sees it next to impossible for them to be defeated.
By then they'd have superior physical strength, longevity and the power to control VAR and submit everyone to their will.
>>144034167
No she'll eventually give up flying because she's shit at it and relegate herself to the base cumdump.
>>144034095
>powers up
you mean getting buffed by one of the Walkure's song or something else?
>>144034525
Realizes her inherent potential or some such shit
Oh my god, this new OP song.
Any wings.io room up?
>>144034500
we can only hope. knife ears are only good for one thing
>>144034206
To have an easy in for Jenius' later?
Mirage stop being useless and call your grandpa for us!
>>144034688
Wouldn't need to make her part of the triangle if that was the only reason. No, I still see some big development involving her coming later.
Roid really wanted peace, but after getting Gramia's will he has changed completely.
>>144034778
...Did you know that Mirage wasn't even in the triangle? The only reason Kawamori added her was because the sponsors wanted a romantic triangle. Before that it was only about the pilot and his singer but Kawamori added her last minute just to appease his sponsors. If I were you I wouldn't get my hopes up.
>>144034839
It's the runes, they are sentient beings. Notice in the third episode where Freyja was looking at her rune and was surprised it was acting up.
The one that lived with Gramia transferred its powers and knowledge to Roid's before the old man's death.
>>144035097
It reminds of protodevlins.
>>144035054
You're making things up.
Original idea was indeed about pilot competitions, singers and teamwork. But original idea is something extremely far far away from the draft and even further away from the actual script. Also Kawamori indeed said he wanted to drop the love triangle, but was forced to add it by producers. And usually producers ask for things before work on actual script has started.
>>144034592
I couldn't recognize the deep female voice at the end of it. Was that Mirage's VA?
>>144035318
>Also Kawamori indeed said he wanted to drop the love triangle
Heresy
>>144035353
>He didn't recogize JUNNA's manly voice
Come on, anon.
>>144035411
Can you imagine Macross without a love triangle? WHAT WOULD WE FIGHT ABOUT hahaha
>>144035054
Shows change quite a bit from initial drafts so who knows at what draft they added in Mirage. I hate using staff interviews, but they said that some Mirage stuff will be coming up since they haven't done much with her so far.
>>144035411
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/05/28/shoji-kawamori-on-macross-delta-and-his-hopes-for-the-series/#4d7166e71210
He mentions it twice
>>144035353
All deep vocals should be Junna.
>>144035587
That just wouldn't be Macross
>>144035054
I still think they will do something with Mirage
I don't think that she'll win though
>>144035615
That's probably why the sponsors convinced him to keep it in. The love triangle aspect is too iconic.
Personally I'd love to see him just do a striaght romance story but he seems to just be known for love triangles
>>144035587
He lies. He puts those love triangles in his every single show. And his ambitious next project will have a love triangle too, you'll see.
>Freyja in a chinese dress
>>144035632
It'd be nice if they do something with her character. I don't see her taking on the role of the Ace (that's Hayate's part). I see her more as the support in operations. Sort of like what Konami does in Walkure. The true power of a team isnt just in the spotlight, it's also in the back where the less exciting and selfless jobs take place.
>>144035677
>Personally I'd love to see him just do a striaght romance story
Sure, I wouldn't mind either. As long as it's not part of a Macross story
>>144035687
>He lies.
Not necessarily. When you really think about his love triangles in the past, like 20 years, hasn't there always been a clear winner and everything's just kind of circling around waiting for it to finally happen?
>>144035847
*Kaname not Konami.
Sorry. Fuck autocorrect
>>144035894
That's true. From the beginning first few episodes you can tell who's going to win the bowl.
>>144035894
>hasn't there always been a clear winner and everything's just kind of circling around waiting for it to finally happen?
Yes, and? Kawamori is clearly sucker for those kind of stories.
>>144035995
What I'm saying is, that shows at least some indication that he would have more interest in just doing a straight romance story than having a love triangle because his love triangles are very lopsided
Windermere is cocky now but as soon as Heinz gets sick again they're gonna drop their spaghetti
>>144035995
I think what they're trying to say is that since Kawamori isn't invested in the triangle, from the get go he chooses who's going to win and focuses on giving that girl the momentum instead of evenly planning out and fleshing the triangle. As far as the other girl, we'll we all know how heavily shat on they get.
>>144036057
>>144036122
No, he is a sadist who needs one girl to suffer in order to get his romance boner.
Thankfully I dodged bullet this time by picking the best girl right from the start.
>>144036122
Or in Mylene's case, just nothing at all
>>144036285
Who'd you pick? :)
>>144035632
Mirage is the Mikono of Delta.
>>144036409
ur mom
>>144036466
Really? Well I can see why you would. A++ choice.
>>144036429
No, Mikono got nothing at all and was also the fucking worst. Mirage is very likable
>>144035474
>>144035593
I googled it. They really made a 15 year old sing all of those lewd lyrics.
>>144036818
It's fine. If she got into music industry, she is not a virgin already.
>>144036818
>I googled it. They really made a 15 year old sing all of those lewd lyrics.
Her vocal range is really limited. Kaname's range is highest in the group if im not mistaken. You can kinda tell from listening to Walkure songs.
>>144036885
>Her vocal range is really limited
I think that's a bit moot when she's 15 years old because that isn't the kind of powerful singing voice that a 15 year old Japanese girl should normally have
>>144036735
So was Mikono for like four episodes.
http://www.youpak.com/watch?v=DDJut50TzmQ
Thoughts on real life Walkure?
nyan nyannyan nyannihao nyangorgeousdeliciousdeculture
>>144037226
I try not to think about 3DPD when I'm enjoying my 2D.
>>144035632
Kill her
>an entire episode of windniggers saying KAZE KAZE KAZE SORA SORA SORA
I hope the whole planet is glassed
>tfw your dad is a war criminal and all the cool stuff he got you probably came from fresh corpses
>>144037582
That snowman he sent Hayate was freshly build by one of his victims
>>144037582
You just know they will give Hayate the same mission, but he won't go through with it.
I'm excited for the next episode's new song. Walkure can do no wrong in my eye. I love all of their songs so far.
>>144037510
More like Earth glassed soon.
You know Absolute zero θ Nova tick is a catchy song that just grows on you. Kinda like most Walkure songs desu. Who would have thought that Neo Stream was secretly gold
>>144037092
Yes but she wasn't after a while while Mirage is still fine
>>144038340
>Who would have thought that Neo Stream was secretly gold
I always thought it was great.
>>144037226
Cute, I just don't like OP2 as much as OP1, ED1 or ED2.
>>144038340
Yeah, it's that kind of song that after 5 times of listening to it it grows on you. I was rewatching the OP and I came to the conclusion that if I had just seen it without watching any episodes first (not knowing they reused animation) I'd have thought it was pretty dope.
>>144038340
Are you saying that I shouldNEVER BE SATISFIEDbecauseTHERE MAY BE COMPLICATED EMOTIONSand I shouldn't judge it on my first pass?
>>144036885
The rest of Walkure sings in anime voice so that range is fake.
>>144038340
The full version should be good but it just doesn't have that oomph for a really good OP.
>>144039372
Agreed, doesn't get me as excited as the first OP
Is this worth catching up on? Or should I watch the rest of macross first? I've watched the original series, DYRL, Plus, and 7.
>>144039691
If you've watched all that I don't see what's holding you back. I suppose you can watch Frontier, it's just a 2 cour show.
>>144038755
>not knowing they reused animation
On that note, it's cute how the stock footage of Bogue got used.
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 14 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_00.20_[2016.07.12_07.09.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DTiqRSK.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 14 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 00.20 [2016.07.12 07.09.51]")
So Mikumo confirmed for 500,000 cycles old protoculture hag?
>>144039774
Should I go ahead and watch Zero as well?
>>144039691
It seems you missed Frontier, but I can help you with it.
Fold waves = magic.
Now you know absolutely everything you need about Frontier before watching Delta.
>>144039866
Watch it if you feel like it. I don't dislike it as much as some seem to do, but then again I don't think it's very good either.
Why don't they just let Shirokishi solo all of NUNS?
>>144040145
But that's what they did
>>144040145
They gotta promote other Windies for their merch.
>>144039372
It isn't exciting like Lion was. I'm really confused why they didn't bother to spend more effort on the second op.
>>144036885
>Her vocal range is really limited. Kaname's range is highest in the group if im not mistaken.
Incorrect, you are mistaken. Kaname, Makina and Reina all sing around the same range. JUNNA also isn't limited in her ranges, in fact she has the most diverse and flexible. The girl can literally switch from deep and powerful ranges, to high typical ranges, to various other ranges. Just listen to Koi halation the war (without Freyja), Ichido Dake no Koi Nara, and Uncertain cosmic movement for valid examples. Kaname is really great at harmonizing her voice with everyone though, Makina has the hardest time. While JUNNA and Minori are superb together. The last verse of Ikenai Borderline (album version) with Mikumo and Freyja singing together transcends their voices individually. They should do songs like that more often, word for word at the same pitch.
Has mirage ever worn the outfit she had on this episode?
Something about elf girls in sandals and summer clothing intrigues me
>>144040464
They should've done a version of Ikenai Borderline where they're both singing all the way. The one in the first episode was really good.
Freyja is a wind singer too, right?
>>144040671
In episode 5 she did.
>>144040745
Freyja is the singer of my heart.
>>144040745
I think it's a possibility. Roid definitely seems to be a bit intrigued by her and Mikumo.
>>144038858
Yup. The problem was the disappointment from seeing re-used footage, along with a new song we aren't familiar with. That disappointment over came the song. If we had seen the MV first it would have been better
>>144040745
Obviously, probably has royal blood too. Everyone's gotta be related to someone like a goddamn Mary Sue in this show. Wouldn't surprise me if Messer was suddenly revealed to be the grandgrandgrandson of Roy Focker or whatever
>>144031638
REMOVE APPLE remove apple
you are worst windermere. you are the windermere idiot you are the windermere smell. return to windermere. to our meltran cousins you may come our planet. you may live in the zoo. ahahahaha ,zentran we will never forgeve you. xenos rascal FUck but fuck asshole windermere stink zentran sqhipere shqipare..windermere genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead windermere..ahahahahah ZENTRADI WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget earth .vajra we kill the queen , vajra return to your precious hive.hahahahaha idiot windermere and zentran smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE APPLE FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. human+idol+macross=kill windermere
>>144039691
Just watch both Frontier movies and you're good!
>>144040671
>>144040787
Anyone got fullbody shots of her wearing it?
124 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で＠無断転載は禁止 (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 97b0-Bfmi)[sage] 2016/07/11(月) 22:48:14.32 ID:2+Sc75zu0
新曲は新OPEDと真綾作詞の新挿入歌で打ち止めらしいよ
It's going to be disappointing if this is true.
>>144039859
Yeah, I guess that's a compelling shot. We have spooky image that shows the temple in undamaged state.
We also have windie alterations of same temple to make it their own.
That would lend the idea that they're from different periods of history.
I really hope Mikumo takes that temple back from those thieving windies.
i actually like the OP2 more than the OP1
>>144041254
What? Why? Who are these people?
>Bogue does that stupid fucking head thing in the OP too
>>144041418
OP1 is more intense but OP2 has a really nice beat. I enjoy them both.
>>144041397
Actually, those stones columns imediately around them aren't quite the same, so it could just be a similar temple. Or could be the same, but renovated.
I'd guess it's the same, and the temple has been repurposed by the windies.
>>144040745
>>144040847
>>144040862
>>144040797
I doubt it. It's the fact that she doesn't have the strongest runes (Heinz) or highest fold receptor factor (Mikumo), that makes Freyja special and amazing.
Freyja is a normal Winderemere girl who will save the galaxy by making her voice echo throughout the galaxy. It is her determination and resolve to connect the hearts of her people with the other races of the galaxy and end the unnecessary conflict by singing. It sounds silly, but Freyja loves singing, and through the power of song her runes will touch the hearts of many, just by the strength of the emotion of her resolve.
I remember in a recent interview, Kawamori stated he regretted making DYRL ending with a weapon. He would have wanted it to have ended by just purely Minmay's song reaching the zents. That's probable what he is aiming for with Freyja.
This route also explains the final holy triangle in the series. Mikumo with her incredible strong fold receptor value, is weakening for some strange reason. She doesn't know why she sings, and as such she isn't able to connect her songs with people or the runes naturally like Kaname and Freyja did (they have a strong resolve). Although she was able to force the ruins to obey her using her raw strength before getting knocked out.
Heinz, while he has the strongest runes, cannot connect the hearts of his people and the galaxy. Due to his lack of resolve, or misplaced reason for singing, her can only resort to mind control. However our average heroine Freyja, with her non average determination and resolve will shake the galaxy with her heart.
>>144037582
I wonder if it was hayate's dad who bombed Windermere
>>144041922
I'm picking he'll have gone against orders to do that. Or maybe there were complications and the wrong area was bombed. Something like that.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv_snapshot_01.12_[2016.07.11_18.03.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v0pmxfy.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv snapshot 01.12 [2016.07.11 18.03.29]")
what did she mean by this?
>It's a fujo-pandering episode
>>144042039
Basically she wants the dick
>>144041424
This guy is saying the song in the next episode will be the last new song.
>>144042039
That Hayate and Freyja will bang and then realize they love each other.
>>144042082
When?
>>144041794
I'm not sure Heinz is even that powerful. What makes him powerful is the use of the protoculture tech. But, at one point, Mikumo and Freyja were able to match him when they sang into the ruins.
But, as a plot device, Epsilon is always ramping up the tech. Next battle, that fortress will be running at 95% efficiency and practically nothing will be able to stop it. It's not Heinz. It's that protoculture battleship.
I have no doubt that they'll end up singing together though, to put to rest the big bad. But, I'm not of a view that Heinz is anything but a royal little singer. He gets attention because of that. Not because he's essentially special. Freyja seems more special than he does (with his techno booster).
Still holding out for Freyja singing Ai Oboete Imasu Ka. Maybe in ep 22 everything will go to shit and she'll sing that song as she sacrifices herself and transcends a la madoka style.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv_snapshot_06.05_[2016.07.11_18.10.01].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sDw9L89.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv snapshot 06.05 [2016.07.11 18.10.01]")
>it's a Windermere episode
>Arad, why are you with the son of that man?
Hayate's father confirmed terrorist
>>144042183
For about 80% of this episode, you fucking faggot.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv_snapshot_06.49_[2016.07.11_18.11.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QcphQib.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv snapshot 06.49 [2016.07.11 18.11.42]")
So, realistically, losing an eye would massively diminish your combat effectiveness wouldn't it?
>>144042298
Really? Aside from Heinz wanting his brother's D as usual I didn't see much pandering. Bishie windfaggots walking and talking isn't pandering.
>>144042039
pic related
>>144042298
What do you think they'll do about the eyepatch? Is that a permanent feature, or just a temporary patch?
What do your fujo sense tell you about that pretty boy?
>>144042298
>two or mole male characters interacting in any way
>they want to fuck!
>>>/y/
>>>/cm/
>>>/hm/
>>144042394
>Windfaggot clearly staying away from his wife so he can be with his fellow homos
It's pretty gay.
>>144042372
It'll stay. I think they're going for that thing like how blind people don't have sight but in exchange the rest of their senses are more developed than other people's.
>>144042259
Or just plain deserter/defector. Or Hayate's dad was actually some officer and he made a mistake which killed his squadron.
>>144042091
Maybe he just talks about new album? It has only 3 new songs too. It's hard to say without context.
>>144042424
At least homofantasize about the ones who don't have wives/girlfriends. Cassim isn't a slut.
>>144042424
No, he's just triggering death flags as a soldier
>>144042478
Nah, that's not sounding exciting enough.
Hayate's dad will be a fighter pilot. He'll be spec-ops. He'll be awesome.
>inb4 hayates father was the one who dropped the nuke on not-japan
>>144042609
Wow what an original theory
>>144042590
Either that, or he'll be someone that Hayate will have to come to terms with. Maybe that's why Arad has kept things from Hayate, knowing that the dad wasn't that great a person.
That could be how it is too.
I want to see what Nekki Basara is doing in the face of all this galactic mind control business.
>>144034747
>not calling granma
>>144042320
>muh kaze
They got the sixth sense dude. Didn't you see Keesu wipe that fleet with his eye closed?
>inb4 hayates father didn't drop the nuke on Windermere
I think I'm the first one who came up with this theory
>>144042590
Hayate dad dropped that bomb
>>144042736
You know what? I woke up thinking I'd love to see Basara take the (temporary) lead in the group. Him singing as the girls all do support. That would be awesome. Then he'd ignore the bitches and continue on other places.
>>144042736
eating a flower
>>144042872
Yeah, probably. But maybe he did something a little heroic too. After showing us him sending presents back home, it's hard to think of him as a bad guy. He won't be. Not in the end, anyway.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_08_[09866842].mkv_snapshot_20.16_[2016.07.12_02.24.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7KdDZYy.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 08 [09866842].mkv snapshot 20.16 [2016.07.12 02.24.45]")
>>144042714
I know it's slightly liberal translation, but at this point we can all agree that gg guessed right and Arad meant Hayate's father. It seems Arad doesn't think Hayate's father did anything wrong. So either
1) Hayate's father dropped the bomb but Arad thinks he was framed
2) Hayate's father was just a hippie and a deserter. Arad would support his decision, but that rescued soldier would obviously despise him.
>>144031570
But he's right, UN is just after the ruins rather than peace.
>>144042943
>someone who sends presents back home can't be a bad guy
toddler logic.
>>144042956
He could also be more than a deseter, a downright traitor who didn't agree with the goals of NUNS
>>144042956
And I forgot to add that my bet is on #2. If Hayate's father was framed Arad would probably try to find the truth.
>>144042989
You're the anti-NUNS/glass-Earthings guy, aren't you?
>>144043009
Would Arad say something like that (see pic >>144042956 ) about guy who betrayed everyone and nuked both NUNS and civilians? Again, in worst case scenario Arad would think he was framed or mind controlled.
>>144043070
>Would Arad say something like that (see pic >>144042956 ) about guy who betrayed everyone and nuked both NUNS and civilians
No, I'm saying he betrayed NUNS to prevent the reaction bomb. But failed
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv_snapshot_15.37_[2016.07.11_18.27.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MFWWKdD.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv snapshot 15.37 [2016.07.11 18.27.04]")
So is there still any reason at all to not be rooting for Windermere?
Fuck NUNS
>>144030423
So the next Macross will be full-on yuri triangle right?
>>144043115
technically it was a dimension bomb. one step worse than a reaction weapon
>>144042956
Most likely the NUNS pilot that dropped that nuke was under VAR influence
>>144043154
enjoy your mind control and eating apples for the rest of your life, because some group you have no association with did something bad once
>>144043115
Yep. I think, even if he did drop the bomb, there'll be extenuating circumstances that will allow Hayate to live with it. It'll be somewhat messy though, until Arad sits him down and tells what he knows. Something like that.
>>144043154
I don't agree with Roid's politics but as long as the NUNS body count keeps rising, I'll root for them. All I want is a good old fashioned NUNS genocide.
When is the Hayate and Freyja are siblings reveal? That's going to be sweet.
>>144043115
>the reaction bomb
It was DE, not a mere reaction bomb.
I can't even imagine a scenario in which he would try to prevent the explosion, but would drop it anyway. It would be some Shyamalan level ass pull.
Much simpler theory is that he was just affected by Var or mind control during the mission.
My theory is that Var Syndrome is actually caused by Heinz singing and they are deliberately using it to control people.
>>144043432
M-masaka
>>144043432
Your theory was proved wrong 4 months ago. Try another one.
>inb4 freyja dies a heroic death and mirage wins the gold
>>144043432
huh.. this would explain a lot actually
>>144043411
>NUNS spec-ops coming over to kill protowhale before it's activated
>Windies catch wind of it, infect pilot with VARS
>Pilot loses his mind and drops it on a city instead
Way to go, windies!
>>144041922
Highly doubt it
Arad is aware that his dad is treated like a war criminal, but throughout the series, Arad doesn't seem like he knows who committed the bombardment, so his dad's crime must be something else.
>>144043154
Windies are doing exactly what the NUNS did. Using WMDs indiscrimately.
>>144043432
Literally no evidence
>>144043581
VAR as mind control wasn't developed until after the bomb dropped.
>>144043712
Var as "going nuts and trying to kill everyone" existed for a long time. We saw Var'd (but ot mind controlled) zents still could use their destroids. And someone made a bomb in the prologue of episode 1. So it could be uncontrolled aggression.
>>144030423
Roid x Mikumo
King x Freyja
White x Hayate
>>144038340
it reminds me sort of persona 3's opening for some reason.
ED2 > ED1 > OP1 > OP2
Surely I'm not alone thinking OP2 is dogshit.
>>144042091
They wouldn't have release it all in the first cour if that's the case
and the next album doesn't have Silent Hacker
>>144043851
>Var as "going nuts and trying to kill everyone" existed for a long time.
Less than 5 years isn't a long time.
>>144043877
It's not dogshit but it doesn't get you excited like the first one
>>144043867
>White x Hayate
Yes. No homo tho.
This is my first Macross series, and I'm really enjoying the show. When is the love triangle going to start though? So far Freyja is winning and i'm happy and routing for her, but Mikumo needs to start doing something too
>>144043877
I'd go OP1 > ED 1 > ED 2 > OP 2.
>>144044008
>but Mikumo needs to start doing something too
Good one, I sincerely laughed.
Miragefaggots don't deserve anything but bullying.
>>144043877
Overall I'd say ED1>OP1>ED2>OP2
If we're just talking about the songs though I'd say ED2>ED1>OP2>OP1
>>144044162
>Mirage
Literally who
>>144044008
Hayate ending up with Mikumo after them having barely any interaction would be the ultimate troll.
>>144044609
Where are all these hot pics coming from?
>>144044495
There is a theory that Mikumo has been dating Hayate since episode 3. They are just being discreet. Biggest twist
>>144037226
You know I'm actually starting to like this song now
Freyja will somehow find a way to win the triangle against all the loser flags, amirite?
>>144040745
That's what I thought was going to happen but now, I think they're going for Mikumo being the Wind Singer
No idea why people like second ending.
Lion > Northern Cross > Ichido Dake > Diamond Crevasse > Rune Pika > Triangular > Delta's OP2 >> [huge gap] >>> Delta's ED2
>>144042091
>This guy is saying the song in the next episode will be the last new song.
Well that's not right because we just got an interview with Freyja and Reina's seiyuu saying that they had a bunch of new songs in the second half.
Remember, they said that the second half songs were the "stronger" ones and that Reina's favorites haven't been played yet
>>144044609
>That panty line
>>144043154
Neither side is supposed to be right
Also, mind-controlling the galaxy is not good
>>144044495
>barely any interaction
More like 0 interaction.
No I'm serious. I don't think they've talked to each other
>>144045150
Please no more songs from Reina. Silent Hacker was more than enough already.
>>144045034
>No idea why people like second ending.
It's super groovy and has a good rhythm
>>144045034
Why did you just ignore SDF and 7?
>>144045542
>SDF
What are the good songs in this exactly?
>>144045453
Mikumo say's "You've finally awoken" after Hayate and Freyja sync up. Everyone assumed she was talking about Freyja, but it could easily have been about Hayate.
>>144045542
>SDF
Put it beyond ED2. Since I watched SDF for the first time just few months ago (right before Delta) I have no nostalgia for it. It's just a typical boring OP of 80s.
>7
I couldn't force myself to even start watching it after everything you told me about it.
>>144043877
>>144038755
OP1 > ED 1 > OP2 > ED 2
They're all pretty nice though.
>>144045898
I want to commit a crime
>>144045898
Dude, ignore the 7 haters. 7 is a love it or hate it series. Give it a try, you may end up loving it.
>>144045884
I think it was talking about both of them
>>144045898
>It's just a typical boring OP of 80s.
First of all, screw you, SDF's OP is god tier. Second of all what about the ED? Third, everybody who wants to consider themselves a true Macross fan needs to give 7 a shot
We can all agree HayatexMikumo is the god tier pairing right?
>>144046427
If by god tier you mean invisible and doesn't exist.
>>144046087
WOW WOW FLASH IN THE DARK!
>>144045034
>no Fire Bomber
Opinion discarded
>>144046427
That would be0 G love
>>144046427
Let's ship it. Anchors away!
>>144045453
Years of anime makes me develop this notion that no interaction means one of them don't exist
>>144046427
No.
what did Mikumo mean by this?
I'd eat Mikumo's poop friends
So who else would like to see this faggot get her life completely destroyed? I feel like nothing else would make me happy.
>>144046087
I'd have to say I think I like Macross 7 Encore - 01 the most out of all the episodes. I always just play it from around 17 min mark. I'm not sure why, but it's preddy cool.
>>144030423
Belka did nothing wrong.
>>144044008
migumo is banging roid.
>>144046986
>>144047408
What?
>>144045884
You know what? It could be about both Hayate and Freyja because Mikumo says "You've finally awoken," after Kaname says that Hayate and Freyja were resonating.
>>144047682
Which word don't you know?
>>144047682
Ignore them. Probably just some butthurt Miragefag.
I find Hayate to be the most aesthetically appealing male MC of the whole Macross franchise. I know a lot of people swooned over Alto but I never particularly found him attractive. Hayate has that young innocence of a playful teenager. He's cute.
Hayate and Freyja is the obvious ending. Do you think Kawamori will really change it up?
>>144048336
That doesn't mean there won't be some purposeful misdirection along the way. And maybe it'll be a sky ending so there's no (triangle) losers.
GIRIGIRI MADE LOVE FOREVER
I hope that Hayate's Birthday opens up a Pandora's Box of character development.
It's nice that stuff wasn'tFrontiereddown our throats, but I think that, unless the crescendo starts happening soon, characterization will stay pretty bland until the end.
>>144047408
Me
t. Miragefag
>>144047408
Anon this isnt R.A.D
>>144043171
God, I hope not.
>>144048153
Hayate is 100% best husbando
I honestly don't really think it'll really take much for Hayate's feelings to turn romantic for Freyja. As far as we've seen he's already pretty loyal to her and puts her well being above everything else. Since episode 4 we've already got him jumping in to save Freyja and screaming "Protecting her is my duty". And again in episode 8 he jumped in front of Freyja when Keith raised his sword to kill her. Then you've got him repeatedly jumping into harms way to stop the windies from hurting her. Then we have episode 14 where he can't even see her sad for a second before cheering her up and then smiling fondly when he sees her talking animatedly again. He also launched right after her when she was being pulled by the zero g without even stopping to think that they'd both be in big shit. He called her to ask if she was OK and he sounded desperate. Afterward he was relieved to see she was OK.
Not to mention that out of all of us Hayate is the biggest Freyjafag. He's always paying close attention to everything she does or says and smiling the whole time. As soon as she joins the battlefield he's all MUH FREYJA and she's all MUH HAYATE.
It's more of a small push really what Hayate needs to start viewing Freyja differently and realize that maybe their relationship isn't so platonic after all.
>>144049782
I mean we've also already got everything that's basic for a relationship
Trust, loyalty, respect, teasing, inspiring one another, caring for when the other is feeling down, and always putting the other first.
Freyja is the obvious winner. Are there even such things as miragefag? She's barely even a character.
Only thing is Hayate doesn't think about romance at all and this is especially going to get even worse next episode when he will surely be mindbroken with whatever revelations are revealed
>>144039859
I find nothing wrong with her being 500,000 years old.
>>144050600
Yes, Hayate doesn't think about romance...YET. I really don't want to sound like an opportunist but let's say Hayate is feeling like shit next week. And suddenly you have Freyja coming to comfort him and sing him that new song that's supposed to come next episode. When people are at their most vulnerable, whoever picks them up tends to win a piece of their heart.
That's pretty much how Freyja developed her feelings for him. Her attraction came to be because he came to her rescue when she was at her lowest.
Idk, being emotionally bare in front of someone tends to open doors to things.
>>144045150
Could you post the images with those? I want to confirm it myself.
Hello darkness my old friend
>>144043877
OP 1 > ED 2 > ED 1 >>>>>>> OP 2
There's no hype in OP 2.
>>144044906
2016 is the year of the underdog
>Cavs win after being 3-1
>Leicester win the Premier league
>Portugal win the Euros
>>144051147
We can talk loserflags after Mirage gets actual development with Hayate.
>>144051286
So that means Mirage wins
>>144051396
She'd have to at least be in the competition to do that.
>>144051396
Shhh don't trigger the Freyjafags
Apparently this is the song that will premiere in the next ep. I really like it!
http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/-/SampleStreamMeta/VTCL-35236/-/-/3/A.html
I like Mirage. Why do you guys not like her?
>>144051834
I like her.
>>144051834
Me tooSome character development would be ace, though
>>144051834
I do like Mirage, but her getting some focus would be great.
>>144051834
>>144051949
>>144052014
>>144052068
Samefag. Mirage is totally irrelevant and shit.
>>144052107
This.
Remove Mirage.
>>144051396
Oh shit, I didn't even think about it like that.
>>144052233
Do you like Reina? I hope you don't believe she is the least developed Walkure, because imo that's Makina.
>Mirage
Literally who?
>>144052401
The black guy
>>144052439
Don't make fun of blacks, one of your best friends is black.
>>144052439
The sandnigger?
>>144042956
Hayate's dad was probably indeed the pilot that dropped the bomb, but it was out of necessity. The alternative was that whatever the rogue element within NUNS was doing on the ruins would have succeeded and doomed the galaxy. By dropping the bomb, he was able to stop them while forcing the non-corrupt element of NUNS to declare a cease-fire since 'HOLY SHIT, SOMEONE ON OUR SIDE JUST USED A BANNED DIMENSIONAL WEAPON! We have to stop the war now and make sure no one knows the truth.' Basically, Hayate's dad became a war criminal for the sake of saving the galaxy. Arad knows this but had to keep quiet due to the gag order from NUNS, which had probably caused him to quit in disgust and form CHAOS afterward.
>>144051834
This is literally the only Macross triangle where I liked both girls
>>144051010
My mistake. I thought it was an interview but it was from one of these threads talking about an earlier episode of the radio show
>>>143557052
>Two weeks ago in the radio show Reina's VA and Minoringo said we have yet to hear their favourite songs.
>>>143560255
>It's true! Apparently the decided to go with all the weakest songs for the first album. They are saving the best of the bunch for the second half of the show.
>>144052711
>some guy learns about very evil officers doing some very evil things
>instead of trying to report to someone he drops the most destructive type of bomb available in the whole galaxy on his comrades and millions of civilians
>it also makes you wonder how he got access to the bomb in the first place since it would be an unauthorized use
This would be absolutely the stupidest twist in anime history.
>>144052984
I'd like to get some definite confirmation on this later but thanks.
>those new OP lyrics
god damn man, that seriously lewd.
>>144034460
>Do you not find it odd that all the other descendants of the protoculture also possess superior strength
except they don't. windies are clearly stronger than most races.
they even say that windmeres die faster because of their physical capabilities or something
>>144053589
You know how these stories work, reporting to someone wouldn't do shit
>>144040745
well they need a deus ex machina to win
>>144053589
>Evil officers are part of the upper echelon of the military/government so there is no one he can turn to
>They are also just about to complete their nefarious plan
>Hayate's dad MGS his way into the evil officer's base and finds out there were going to use the dimensional weapon as a false flag operation to nuke the castle to distract everyone from their actual plan
>Realizing it is only a matter of time before the evil officers will complete their mission of galactic mind control, he has no choice but to steal the plane and drop the bomb on the ruins to stop them from mind-controlling the galaxy while hoping that by openly flying a NUNS plane and dropping the bomb, NUNS would have no choice but to declare a cease fire lest all of their other colonies go into rebellion.
>>144053778
Don't you think that killing millions of civilians and not even a single villain is an over-over-over-overkill?
>>144053839
Maybe Hayate is the actual wind-singer and all this time he's just channeling his fold magic into Freyja through the fold crystal?
>>144053958
If their plan is indeed to mind-control everyone in the galaxy, then millions of civilians is an acceptable collateral damage to cover their tracks. I mean, what's a few million compared to the rest of the galaxy?
What's so special about a wind singer though? Maybe they're entitled to rightfully control the protowhale. So Heinz can.
Maybe this leaves the option of Mikumo to take control too, once her full functionality is restored.
The other option is Freyja is another wind singer, and she'll be the one to end things, Mikumo sacrificing herself somehow beforehand.
Heinz will be the weak little shota that can't do shit when it counts.
>>144053899
You forgot that nuke didn't hit the ruins. So you would also need another explanation why Hayate's father dropped the bomb in a completely different location.
But seriously, do you really think any single fan would accept your explanation? It would be beyond shitty writing, it would be so over the top and stupid, that /a/ wouldn't be able to handle all the frodo.jpg images.
>>144042976
NUNS is playing the role of galactic hegemon. I'm sure they wouldn't give a damn about Windermere if they weren't invading neighboring systems. Windermere is basically space North Korea, thinking they can take on the entire galaxy.
>>144054380
The location is probably where the evil officers were conducting their experiments or something. But let's be honest here, it's pretty much a given that it's Hayate's dad that dropped that nuke, and since Arad is defending him despite what other people are saying about him, it only makes sense that Hayate's dad had nuke the planet for a noble cause but no one except Arad knows it. We may not know the reason yet, but it's inevitable that it wasn't Windermere that did it to themselves.
>>144054537
>But let's be honest here, it's pretty much a given that it's Hayate's dad that dropped that nuke
>>144054537
>it only makes sense that Hayate's dad had nuke the planet for a noble cause but no one except Arad knows it
There were better theories in this very thread. Mind control, VAR, being framed, etc.
>>144054696
You're talking to an anti-NUNS fag. He won't accept anything other than NUNS was behind it.
>>144054537
What if Arad and Hayate's dad actually just hate windniggers?
>>144054634
>Hayate's dad is a pilot
>He travelled all over the galaxy, collecting random shit along the way. However, despite being a pilot, he gets to travel to various worlds, as if he isn't assign to any particular squadron stationed at any particular base. Almost as if he's infiltrating the various worlds, doing black-ops stuff.
>Freyja received the mp3 player from a nice human despite Windermere relations with humanity being crap
>Arad believes in Hayate's dad while everyone seems to hate him outright
>There is a clip of a NUNS black-ops plane dropping the dimensional weapon
You have to be incredibly ignorant to believe Hayate's dad has nothing to do with the nuke
>mfw a fleet of ships gets bodied by one pilot
>>144054696
VARS syndrome outbreak happened after the nuke so it can't be mind-control. Framed is even less likely since that goes against everything that has been said about the Windermere knights/king so far.
>>144054781
Considering Arad and Ernest basically didn't say a bad thing about them since they had openly declared their war to free the cluster, I highly doubt that.
>>144055122
>Framed is even less likely since that goes against everything that has been said about the Windermere knights/king so far.
And against everything that was being about Roid. Oh wait.
By the way, he could be framed by NUNS too. They ordered him to drop the bomb for some bizarre reason even windfags can't explain and then called him a traitor.
>>144055226
Alright, so which means he did drop the nuke, and it was under orders from NUNS, which means Windermere didn't nuke themselves.
>>144054532
>I'm sure they wouldn't give a damn about Windermere
They wouldn't, and Windermere will be stuck at the same situation 7 years back when their freedom was taken, leading to them wanting to fight back. And this time they won't be able to because the NUNS have already studied the runes and remove their advantage.
>>144055281
You are making it look like facts and not just conclusions from just one of theories based on another theory.
>>144055281
The real question for me is, what did dropping the bomb like that prevent? It had to be for some reason. I doubt it was just a terrorist attack.
Until we see more, we just don't know the full circumstances. Could have been evil NUNS. Could have been NUNS preventing windies from doing something dumb. Who knows.
But given it was dropped on a NUNS base, maybe it was evil windies. Who knows.
>>144055406
I'm just saying, almost everything shown so far all but confirms Hayate's dad was on Windermere and had probably something to do with the dimensional weapon. I could be wrong, but the asspull required to prove that would so not be worth it.
>>144055578
Well, given in the last episode, the 'totally not evil' guy from NUNS had said if their plan had gone off without a hitch 7 years ago when the dimensional weapon was used, it's more likely it was the evil part of NUNS that did it.
>>144055693
It sounded to me as if those NUNS guys were only reacting to prevent the windies from accomplishing something. Not instigating something. So, maybe the blame will land at the windies feet. We'll see.
>>144055590
>I could be wrong, but the asspull required to prove that would so not be worth it.
What asspull?
"Hayate, your dad was on Windermere and he was a deserter that's why he is so disrepected by NUNS"
Bam! What a fucking asspull, isn't it?
But who dropped the bomb? - Any other unnamed NUNS pilot, Epsilon or even Roid himself.
>>144055373
Freedom to what? Invade other planets? There are other ruins on other planets that could be studied. All the ruins look identical. Why do they need an advantage, if not to invade other worlds? The Windies are even worse for using mind control to do it.
>>144054954
Oh shit I totally forgot about Freyja's player. Yeah, that must have been Hayate's dad.
>>144051834
I liked her but they made her completely irrelevant
>>144054954
There is a huge difference between being involved in some shady NUNS stuff on Windermere and actually dropping the bomb.
>>144032719
The fact is he is making the same mistake as Germany and Japan in WW2. Both of these countries, at some stage, was in a position to have peace talks and keep some of the nations they have already conquered. But both had gotten over their heads and think they could keep going. And by the time they started losing, it is already too late for peace talks.
>>144055843
So, they basically set up these seemingly well-connected events only to completely disregard it and have it be a huge coincidence in the end. I mean, as we've seen from Chaos and Mirage, there is nothing keeping them from just leaving the military. Why the need for desertion then?
And Roid was with Keith when the nuke happened, as seen in this episode.
>>144045542
>Why did you just ignore SDF and 7?
And why did you ignore Plus? After in the Dark is the best Macross ED, period. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw3aAXOt9L0
>>144056062
Germany and Japan were never in the position for peace talks. Ever. But not that it matters much since Windermere isn't remotely similar to those two nations other than fighting in a war.
WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
OK but what if
Hayate's dad was part of nuns, special ops. Travels around a lot, always on secret missions. He ends up finding out about the NUNS plans to nuke the winds and thinks about deserting/exposing them. But before that he confides in Arad in secrecy. Arad tells him not to do anything rash, that he could get himself killed. Somewhere along the line Hayate's dad gets discovered that he knew the NUNS secret. So they threaten him. Hayate's mom is a military nurse so they have easy access to her and Hayate is just a kid. Basically now Hayate's dad is put to the test. They force him to throw the bomb or they'll torture his family. So he does so. Throws the bomb against his wishes because he wants to protect his family. But he knows that the NUNS won't let him escape so easily now that he knows how evil they really are and what they're capable of. So to hide what he knows and to ensure that his family won't be in any danger, he crashes his plane and that's the fire that we see in Baby Freyja's flashback as she's holding the music player. If he's dead the secret dies with him and the NUNS see no reason to pursue his family. Arad puts two and two together and decides to leave the NUNS and goes to Chaos.
>>144056218
Are you into enya?
I didn't like any of the Plus music. I can't even recall it that well. It's just not my kind of music.
>>144056103
>So, they basically set up these seemingly well-connected events only to completely disregard it
Disregard what? He still was a pilot, he was on Windermere, he gave Freyja mp3 player, he was involved in some shady NUNS stuff, but he didn't drop the nuke. You're just making one additional connection that might not be there.
>there is nothing keeping them from just leaving the military
Except it's war and they can't leave. When the war started Kaname warned everyone that they should quit now because wouldn't be able to leave anymore. Exactly like Alto got stuck in SMS in Frontier.
not enough best girl ITT
>>144054776
>anti-NUNS
Anyone with half a brain is anti-NUNS. NUNS is the Galaxy of Delta.
>>144056278
Cont.
The NUNS tell all the others that were stationed one Windermere that Hayates dad nuked the winds. So they framed him.
Therefore
>The NUNS carried out their experiment
>Made Hayate's dad do the dirty work unwillingly
>Their secret is safe bc Hayate's dad is deas
>They framed Hayate's dad to make him be the bad guy
>Special ops blame Hayate's died for all their comrades who died
Bam!
>>144056431
They can go AWOL
>>144056567
Do they? When did any of Delta pilots or Walkure idols do that?
I wonder if there will be a windcuck rebellion some of the civvies didn't like the idea of extending the war.
>>144056431
CHAOS isn't part of the military, so I have no idea why you're bringing up what Kaname said.
And given that Windermere is in a war of independence against NUNS/humanity at the time, why would Hayate's dad be on Windermere unless it's to fight? I could be wrong in that it wasn't him that dropped the nuke, but due to how plot usually unfolds in anime, it's more than likely that Hayate's dad was indeed the one that dropped the nuke. I mean, the drama between Freyja and Hayate resulting from this is just too much to waive it off as a coincidence.
Lady M LITERALLY when?
>>144056462
Not enough tits.
>>144056666
When they go for the UNDERSTANDING ending
I want Mikumo to ___ on my face
with this ep the ending is so obvious its not even funny.
>Hayadad blew up windmere
>Hayadad gave freyja the cd player
>understanding ending is acheived through the bond of freyja and hayate, which was foreshadowed by mirage and mirroring max and millia
>>144056721
>CHAOS isn't part of the military, so I have no idea why you're bringing up what Kaname said.
Are you serious? Because Chaos is PMC and both Delta and Walkure are part of it. Kaname explicitly explained they wouldn't be able to leave after signing new contract. And it seems you have never seen Frontier because it was explained there too.
>>144056949
Sit
>>144056963
>Mirage gets shitfaced by her legacy
poetry
>>144056963
>its another Freyjafag headcanon episode
>>144056234
>Germany and Japan were never in the position for peace talks. Ever. But not that it matters much since Windermere isn't remotely similar to those two nations other than fighting in a war.
They are EXTREMELY similar. The use of Nationalisim and Manifest Destiny to justify the war, the perception of being looked down upon and wanted to form an Empire as revenge for being slighted in the past, and had misconceived vision of grandeur after early victories. Germany after taking Austrlia, and Japan after beating the Russians in two separate naval battles.
They were never going to win against overwhelming odds, the only reason they lasted this long was because they weren't taken seriously early on. But after that, the full might of the enemy would smash them.
>>144057132
>it's another miragefag getting desperate
>>144052363
Reina and Makina are Veffidas-tier in my opinion. Don't hate them, but they don't interest me except for the odd things that they do every now and then.
>>144030423
Why is this gei allowed?
>just realized that Hayate's voice actor was this little guy
>"windermere's not bad guys, we swear"
>plan to mind control everyone in the galaxy
>knights admit VAR is a bullshit strategy
get wrecked windfags
>>144057718
>Feel sorry for them guise, they only live for 30~ years
>But I will let 6 of these guys forcefully mindcontrol entire planets and kill millions of security forces
>It's okay because they are bishie bait amirite?
Kawamori is a cuck
>>144057263
You also described the US. as well as almost every other nation during the age of imperialism. Unless Germany had an actual super-weapon that lets them mind-control the entire earth built into their nation, Windermere seems to have actual legitimacy to their claims of manifest destiny, nevermind the fact that the talk between Roid and Keith in the car more than implies they have ulterior reasons for continuing the war. I mean, do they have to openly tell you that they're not actually trying to conquer the galaxy before you understand that this is just a small part of their plan?
It makes sense for Hayate and Freyja to be the Understanding couple tho. They'd be mirroring Max and Milia. Also, Kawamori did state that Hayate and Freyja were the key to the story.
>>144057868
>couple
>>144057868
At this point, due to all the bitching from both sides, I want it to be revealed that Mirage, Hayate and Freyja are brother and sisters or Hayate hooks up with someone else.
the DVD set coming out on the 22nd is supposed to have english subtitles, right?
>>144057943
MIKUMO END OR WE RIOT
>>144057943
Hayate x Kaname is endgame. First Hayate takes Messer's plane, then his girl.
>>144057995
>DVD
What is it? 2004?
Anyway, just check Amazon page: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01DLWEAWC
>>144058066
>implying that doom bitch deserves Hayate
>>144057943
You mean Freyja influences Heinz to stand down and becomes Queen of Windermere and gets a statue two decades later
>>144057803
Kawamori is the kind of guy who believes that as long as someone has some good inside them and are not 100% evil, they are redeemable, even if they committed the most heinous of crimes. That's why Windermere will get the understanding ending and NUNS will get the nuke.
>>144037226
Still hard to believe that JUNNA is 15.
Kaname's motto is LIFE
and then Messer is DEAD
Oh the irony :(
>>144058066
Well, it actually somewhat makes sense and rather symbolic if Kaname actually wins the Hayate-bowl.
>>144058282
Nice try windfag, Windermemes will get nuked and their populace will be spared
Enjoy the knights getting pruned every episode
>>144049782
He's a Freyja's songfag.
This fucking ED i cannot stop listening to it its so catchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4mLVeEz0g
>>144058282
Well, that and the Zentradi had basically glassed Earth and nearly wiped out humanity and they still ended up as the good guys. I mean, you really can't go lower than what they had did and not get redeemed somehow.
>>144058313
And now it's up to Hayate to inject LIFE into Kaname. It's pottery.
>>144058348
Watch some other Kawamori shows. Characters who aren't 100% evil get away Scott free or die performing a noble sacrifice.
>>144049782
He peeks at her practices too. This can't be excused as something he did for duty, he had no practical reason for looking at her train. Normal friends don't do that either.
>>144058438
There are lots of Zentradi. The ones who glassed Earth didn't get UNDERSTANDING ending. They were either killed or had to run away.
It's anime you dumbasses. Everyone and their mother gets an understanding ending no matter what shit they pulled. Unless they slapped a baby.
>>144052984
Okay, I was listening to the radio show which has Toyama as the guest.
I'm not hearing anything about them talking about using the weaker songs in the first album.
Toyama mentioned she really liked the new op song, and Minori was alluding to the new song in the next episode being her favorite.
>>144058571
This
Every SDF episode had Zentradis dying like flies
In Delta only Gramia was killed halfway and he was old and cranky
>episode 15
>new OP
>STILL NO LADY M
Why?
>>144058766
Not Bellri died.
>>144058523
>Watch some other Kawamori shows. Characters who aren't 100% evil get away Scott free or die performing a noble sacrifice.
The majority of Windermere leaders have 5 years left to live. Even if you give them life imprisonment they would have been in prison for a shorter sentence than some people who committed tax fraud. They couldn't be punished; the only ones who could be punished are their innocent civilian population who would be left rebuilding their shattered country.
>>144058619
Not in Gundam, Gundam has massacre endings.
animesukifags are huge frontier fags. I can see now why they act the way they do.
HayatexKaze is the real pairing
>>144058861
He doesn't count, he might as well be one of the unnamed Spacy pilots who got killed
>>144058282
>That's why Windermere will get the understanding ending and NUNS will get the nuke.
The difference here is that Windermere understands already. This is the most rational and human group of antagonists in Macross history. They will be treated like real life humans nations after getting their shits kicked in. I expect a humanitarian crisis and retribution attacks from the nations they conquered.
>>144058832
>STILL NO LADY M
Buy the BDs
>>144058991
No, their innocent population should be the ones to feel the consequences for their planet going to war with the rest of the galaxy. How else are they supposed to learn their place?
Just like the common Zentradi soldier, I'd very much like scores and scores of apple-eaters to learn the suffering of planet-wide bombardment. Is that too much to ask for?
How can Freyja even compete?
They even kept Mikumo out because she would smash her like a bug.
>>144059021
Is Gundam something I should be watching? What would I watch first?
>>144059217
Edgelord please.
>>144059240
>the real triangle
>>144059021
Gundam doesn't have massacre endings, it also ends with UNDERSTANDING but not as forced as Macross
The villains and antagonists are delivered justice instead of kumbaya campfire bullshit
>>144059240
Beach episode WHEN?
>>144059263
0079 > 0080 > Zeta > ZZ > CCA > Unicorn > F91 > Victory
>>144059426
Thanks. I'll look into it.
>>144055069
muh gundam
>>144059240
but Ranka compited just fine
>>144058427
giri giri made love for ever
VF 31 best girl
JUNNA best voice evah
>>144059240
By using Kawamori's main heroine favoritism.
>>144059217
Last episode will be all of NUNS and a bunch of other fleets bombing a section of Windermere plus their fleet and Freyja calling out to stop the fighting.
Bonus points if one of the fleets is a green space elf fleet because they too were eradicated from Al-Shahal so they're definitely wanting a space war.
>>144059371
Please, Gundam kills every single antagonist, even the ones who are good people fighting for the wrong side.
>>144059746
>Bonus points if one of the fleets is a green space elf fleet because they too were eradicated from Al-Shahal so they're definitely wanting a space war.
How many planets did Winderemere conquer? Was it three or four? Because that makes 4 planets of angry native aliens, right next door to Windermere relatively speaking, who would be VERY pissed off and want a say in how Windermere is going to be punished.
>>144042320
Yes. I was stood down from active combat duty due to irreparable damage to my left eye. I can still see out of it, but the vision is poor and cannot be corrected.
My wings have been clipped, and now I can't fly.
>>144059371
Oh, my sweet summer child.
>>144042872
>Immeldad
Or dad is Immelman and Hayate is Immelboy.
Immeldad and Immellad.
>>144059746
>>144059849
Man, they are going full delusional. Is Delta your first Kawamori show?
>>144059886
I thought this would be the case. Makes sense. What doesn't make sense is Keith using rune magic to compensate. Such is anime
>>144059998
>Man, they are going full delusional. Is Delta your first Kawamori show?
To have an "Understanding" ending, you need "Misunderstanding" first.
The Zentradi never had a reason to fight, they were just prograded to.
The Vajira were bugs who were first attracked by a fake mating song, followed by having their queen mind-controlled.
The Protodevilin was an alternate dimentional being and I am petty sure they were defeated and not befriended.
The Bird Human wanted humanity dead because it was afraid of humans causing new war, it wasn't defeated as much as being sent off.
None of these cases have anything to do with Winderermere, who have more in common with Gundam SEED's ZAFT than any strange alien. There is no misunderstanding, so there is no understanding to be had. They want war, they will get one. And the longer they keep winning, the worse it is going to get fo them when they finally lose.
>>144055069
>>144059533
Felt really stupid to me, but maybe he was three times faster than everyone else.
>>144060248
>The Protodevilin was an alternate dimentional being and I am petty sure they were defeated and not befriended.
Nah, in the end there was understanding. The only reason everyone survived is because the main antagonist arrived at understanding. It was glorious.
>>144059669
I'm sure she did anon.
>>144060561
>somewhere Rankafags were participants of the day of the rope
>>144059998
>Windfag scared because the entire universe will shit on Windermere
>>144060128
How does that not make sense? It's like blind people having better spatial awareness and hearing.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_15_[D455D019].mkv [00:00:55.347].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/r7roexN.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 15 [D455D019].mkv [00:00:55.347]")
What did they mean by this?
>>144060933
Breed with the elf
>>144060933
hayate x elysion confirmed
>>144061037
>ywn gattai with Elysion-kun
Life is suffering.
>>144060898
It takes years and years to develop other sense to compensate. We're expected to believe Keith is such a natural genius that he picked up his constant rune-based hyper awareness overnight?
But, even if we accept that, their rune magic as always just been seen to be something that alerts them to imminent danger. It's helpful like that. But that doesn't make it an eye. It can't be used like that, as I described before: it's only an early warning system.
But MAGIC, I DON'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT, I guess.
>>144060933
Is he looking at that macross's penis just then? Gay much?
>>144061119
It's pretty big though. Can you really blame him?
how bad is it at animesuki?
>>144060898
Uhh... Do me a favour and wear an eyepatch for like 2 days. Tell me if you find your other senses improved or if you just end up walking and driving into a lot of things.
>>144044818
How did that theory even start? Also, I think that would be the best twist.
>>144042231
>It's a Kero from Cardcaptors episode
>>144061165
>how bad is it at animesuki?
In what way?
I don't care about shipping, but there is a camp in Animesuki that is acting like /pol/ in the "Windermere did nothing wrong" style. Even trying to claim that poisoning civilian food doesn't count as terrorism.
>>144061391
It's the usual Mikumo should be the romantic interest faggot.
>>144061077
>It takes years and years to develop other sense to compensate.
Go outside and just focus on the sounds for a while. You'll realize your brain is filtering a ton of shit out. All it takes is paying attention.
>constant rune-based hyper awareness
It probably isn't constant, he had amplified Heinz boost going on at the time. Also it has been shown to be more than an early warning system. When Keith was fighting Messer he could "see the wind" which implies knowing what's going to occur ahead of time. It's probably like any other sense, you can actively focus it or it can passively detect stimuli above a certain level.
>>144058058
MIKUMO LIVES MATTER GO HOME
>>144059471
0079 > 0080 > 08th MS Team > Thunderbolt > 0083 > Zeta > ZZ > CCA > Unicorn > F91 > Victory > Origin
0080, 08th MS Team, and Thunderbolt can be watched in any old order because they have nothing to do with each other and take place roughly during the same time
>>144060933
Hayate is an insatiable sex machine.
>>144060248
You're missing the point of Delta so hard is not even funny. Hate breeds more hate, war and death. Windies started this war because they were abused, nuked and massacred by Earthlings. Victims became the aggressors and a new cycle of violence and death began. Rinse and repeat, an endless cycle of suffering.
Freyja, the main character, is all about forgiving. She doesn't hate anyone. The show will end with everyone learning to forgive and moving on. Windermere will be forgiven, Windies will forgive Earthlings, the end.
This isn't real life, this is show written by a nip hippie and you're gonna get an understanding ending wheter you like it not. For god's sake, this is the same guy who regretted using weapons in DYRL. Do you seriously believe Delta will end with a Windermere genocide?
>>144061527
clearly NUNsfag
>>144061527
lol misunderstanding Wind Sympathizers as always
>>144061992
>Do you seriously believe Delta will end with a Windermere genocide?
Well genocide isn't something exactly new to the Macross universe, I see your point though.
>>144061165
>>144061527
Please stay there and don't come back, we don't need Animesukicancerfags here.
>>144061992
NUNsfags don't think they were ever victims though. They believe Windermere should just suck it up.
>>144061992
Animesukifags never thought any of Windermeres plights as legitimate and constantly trivialize it. They would always say that NUNs don't oppress people especially Reddy who is the largest NUNs apologist.
>>144061334
My other senses probably would improve slightly, but not enough to offset the loss of an eye, but I'm just a human and we're pretty reliant on sight. Keith has a sixth sense that is superior to sight and now he's forced to rely on it.
>>144061992
War will end with a song, not with a genocide.
>>144062255
Most of the people that get NUNsfags in these threads are just people that think Windermere's war of aggression isn't morally justified, and from a modern perspective it isn't. Really until this last episode we had basically nothing to go on about the reason why Windermere was fighting, just the biased word of the Windermerans themselves. Even then, they're being D-bombed is not a legitimate cause to go out and start conquering their neighbors. They had their independence, which was very much their right to fight for and take, but going out and fighting wars of conquest basically instantly makes them the bad guys. Very few are saying that Windermere had no legitimate grievances, but the way they go about rectifying them is completely wrong.
>>144049429
You mean Basara Right?
>>144062611
Space War 1 ended with both, don't see why we couldn't get the same here.
>>144062684
I think he actually meant Gamlin.
>>144062187
If there's a genocide it will be portayed as something horrific and not a "take that, windniggers!".
>>144057528
Did you know Heinz's singing voice also did this?
>>144062553
No. We don't know what their runes give them, other than a certain degree of threat awareness. We've seen that demonstrated over and over. Beyond that, we don't know anything about their runes.
But, I guess Kawamori is free to just make it up as he goes along. So, now we're saying that runes are like radar, are we? That they have the ability to detect a range of things, probably from their brainwaves or something. That's great. What other superhuman abilities do you think they should have?
I know! What if they can use their eyes to hypnotise people. You think that'd fly somehow next episode?
>>144061992
>Do you seriously believe Delta will end with a Windermere genocide?
The original Macross ended with the death of the majority of Earthlings left on Earth. So yes?
>>144062843
Even better, one of my favorite parts about the (first) conclusion to SDF, was the gut wrenching massacre of mankind combined with the deserate and valiant actions of the Macross and Britai fleet. I love that kind of shit.
>>144062772
I'm pretty sure he thought Max first though.
>>144062657
>Very few are saying that Windermere had no legitimate grievances, but the way they go about rectifying them is completely wrong.
Yep. Just as I am entirely sympathetic about how Germany got screwed over after WW1. But that is no reason to go Nationalistic and try and conquer the entire Europe. Being sympathetic isn't a free ticket to do anything you like.
>>144062843
>If there's a genocide it will be portayed as something horrific and not a "take that, windniggers!".
I expect no less. But it has to be done.
>>144063080
Kawamori was pretty harsh to wipe out most of humanity like that. I think he should be harsh again, just to remind us what's possible.
Why do people insist upon clinging to their black-and-white morality and blind themselves to the fact that this story, Windermere and NUNS are a lot more complicated than they are willing to admit?
>>144062772
>>144063176
Gamlin is pretty great, but his pic was of the Main Males.
Max is Max, he's way above the minor squabbling of "best/worst"
I dunno I think being nuked is enough of a justification to retaliate especially if the town filled with innocent people were nuked.
How many nukes does NUNs have to drop until its justifiable for Windermere to retaliate?
>>144063322
>Kawamori was pretty harsh to wipe out most of humanity like that. I think he should be harsh again, just to remind us what's possible.
I always believed that Windermere is being retarded because they skipped WW1 straight into scifi. warfare. They never had a horrible war that lasted years and turned everyone's lives into living hell, because before humans arrived they were still a medieval society.
So yeah. Harsh is what Windermere needs as a lesson. They need to learn that war is bad.
The fact that they technically haven't lost a battle on screen yet, makes it even more likely that their first true defeat would be catastrophic.
>>144063248
Why?
>>144063371
>Why do people insist upon clinging to their black-and-white morality and blind themselves to the fact that this story, Windermere and NUNS are a lot more complicated than they are willing to admit?
It has nothing to do with black or white morality. It has everything to do with how you don't just conquer four planets and expect to not suffer consequences after being defeated. The NUNs might be prepared to let Winderemere off the hook, but the 4 planets they took over would not. They would want BLOOD.
>>144063549
>Why?
Because Windermere still thinks war is glorious, fun and profitable. Much like the various nations of Europe before WW1 started. Windermere need to learn a valuable lesson, before they make a 2nd mistake.
>>144063662
and NUNs are callous and calculating. Both are wrong, but Windermere are more "human" in their motivations
>>144063037
We've also seen runes resonate with pilots and protoculture ruins, cause Var, and transmit thoughts. My guess would be they serve as a biological fold wave receptor/transmitter.
>>144063520
>They need to learn that war is bad.
Jesus, are you even watching the show? They already do. Millions of people died 7 years ago, most Windy characters are deeply traumatized because of the war, Cassim and Bogue lost their families. The war changed them forever.
>>144063827
>and NUNs are callous and calculating. Both are wrong, but Windermere are more "human" in their motivations
NUNs are not going to be the ones who would extract their pound of flesh. The 4 planets the Windermere took over will. Yes, Windermere are humans, and they will suffer like humans who did what the did. And that price is decades of racial persecution.
>>144063933
>Jesus, are you even watching the show? They already do. Millions of people died 7 years ago, most Windy characters are deeply traumatized because of the war, Cassim and Bogue lost their families. The war changed them forever.
No, that's just a small war. They have no idea what it really meant to try to build an empire and failing.
>>144063596
You are the one who wants blood. Remember the cat planet, no one gave a shit about the occupation.
>>144064026
>small war
Not for them. Watch the show, pay attention. They are traumatized.
>>144063913
Like how Walkure have fold wave receptors? Only, why don't we see graphs showing any indication of that. My guess is they're not. Otherwise it would have been made a big deal in the anime by now.
From last episode we can say they reasonate with the wind singer's singing. It's also a source of lewd for them.
I'm not sure about the other stuff you mentioned. I don't think they can cause VAR. The apples and water cause VAR, and that's enhanced by the song shit. That's about it.
>>144064054
>You are the one who wants blood. Remember the cat planet, no one gave a shit about the occupation.
The cats do care. And once NUN leaves the cats would get their revenge.
>>144064180
>Not for them. Watch the show, pay attention. They are traumatized.
And they made the mistake of thinking war would fix it. All because NUN gave them their independence. They tried to enter the big leagues, they would be treated like he big leagues. And Big Leagues aren't nice.
>>144063933
Look, didn't someone already say that the whole planet only has 6 million, total? So, it's not millions died. It'd be a in the range of tens of thousands. It was only a small town, not a major city. Stop being to melodramatic.
>>144063662
>let's kill millions of innocent people to teach their politicians a lesson
You're a fucking psycho. Thanks God that Kawamori isn't an edgelord and your fanfic will never be canon.
Windfag boys and men need to be eliminated, and their women should be forced into becoming breeding factories.
>>144064456
the number doesn't matter or do you think quantity matters in determining the significance of a person's life?
>>144064054
Now you're just lying.
What that cat president guy said is... since I think you are capable of using WMDs on your friends and enemies alike, we really have no choice in this.
It's not like he was OK with being occupied. His hands were tied. You see the difference?
>>144064456
Source for the 6 millions?
>>144064608
Someone earlier in the thread or last thread said it.
>>144064495
>You're a fucking psycho. Thanks God that Kawamori isn't an edgelord and your fanfic will never be canon.
The politicians have 5 years left to live. It is impossible to punish them. This means their innocent descendent would have to take the blame in their stead. That's the rules.
>>144064600
I mean the civilians. Those related to the brainwashed soldiers were upset but everyone else didn't seem to mind
>>144064600
But Cat Elder was misinformed. Roid didn't even correct him.
>>144064456
You're forgetting about the Human Colony and NUNS base that was there. They landed a Megaroad there, and had trade routes set up.
If NUNs did some reparations after the Independence War than we wouldn't have to deal with this current state of affairs. America had the right idea after invading Japan
>>144064894
>no NUNS raping Windermeme women and increasing the hafu population
>>144064671
No source then.
>>144064748
Yeah, well, you generally don't provoke a bear, right?
It's stupid to cause riots when you know your occupiers have no hesitation of blanket mind-controlling everyone, or maybe even lining people up and shooting them. They're not silly.
>>144064503
Again, those women are much more stronger than humanshits, the ladies will be the ones doing the raping.
>>144064993
Well, just think about it. From what we've seen of their country, it doesn't look like they have giant cityscapes, right? Humble little towns and villages. So, use that to make a judgement.
>>144064503
>you will never lick their runes
>monarchy
>politicians
>>144065067
They were laughing and having fun, anon. Compare them to the people of Ragna after the occupation, Ragnas looked broken inside.
>>144065344
So, you're claiming that occupied people don't resent being occupied? They're OK with having their military forces defanged and potentially hostile to them, their own citizens?
Are they dumb? Or is it an effect of low-level VARs in their systems? So, what we're seeing is mass control via the apples and special water, and you think that's OK?
>>144065194
We have only seen one village, the castle and Keith's mansion, though. We know very little about Windermere, we just learned that they have roads and cars.
>>144064310
They mentioned detecting bio-fold waves all across the galaxy this episode when Heinz was singing.
>>144065726
Yeah, I have no issues with the wind singer being special enough to produce fold waves via his song. That's expected.
What I don't agree with is assigning that special ability to all the windies, just because of their runes. I think they're OK, but let's not make them too OP. I still want actual SINGERS to have some relevance in macross.
All Windermereans have fold receptors via their runes. That doesn't make every Windermerean a wind singer, in fact it's very rare for a wind singer to ever be born outside the royal family.
>>144066358
Why, did you get that info from that glossary page? Does anyone have that description about their runes? I'd like to check that.
>>144065510
>Are they dumb?
Yes. They have their planet occupied, the army on the street and they are acting as if nothing had happened. No fear, no anxiety, no displeasure. What can you expect from a race that was living in trees 40 years ago.
>>144065896
Most people in the Macrossverse are capable of producing fold waves of varying degrees. Windies just have an organ that assists them in doing so. An average Windermere civilian probably isn't going to match Ranka or Basara in terms of output even with their runes.
>>144066544
They can all at the very least detect fold waves with their runes. That's pretty much the same as a fold receptor, but it doesn't say anything if their song can generate fold waves like "people with fold receptors".
But the main point of it is, even they can, the wind singer is described as something rare, that's almost only found in the royal family, with some (even rarer) exceptions. The entire population =/ wind singers.
>>144066600
Also they didn't realize that the girl with a rune was a cosplayer and not a cat.
I want badly for Freyja to interact with her people more.
>>144067452
She's a filthy traitor
>>144067452
Bit difficult, no?
>>144067452
>I want badly for Freyja to interact with her people more.
I am not sure she wants to. She is officially fighting against her homeworld. But it would be interesting to hear what excuses the common windermere civs has to justify the world conquest scheme.
As one documentary pointed out, Hitler didn't cause WW2. The people of Germany allowed him to cause it.
My only regret is Freyja isn't much representation of Windermerian culture and values. Chuck is a good representation of a Ragnan. Freyja just acts like a human teenage girl.
>>144052806
This is literally a love triangle where all participants are likeable.
>>144054145
Probably same thing as with Nome's, right activation gene for use of protoculture stuff. Or maybe it's about fold receptors, considering how Mikumo was capable to overload whole network from terminal side, while Heinz was sitting at the main server.
>>144055069
'He's fast!'
>>144067567
Still blaming civilians fo Roid's actions? This is fucking retarded.
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