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You're the Game Master and this group of adventures want to play a Game. How do You proceed?
goblin rape
>>144012025
>Game Master
The term is Dungeon Master.
>>144012025
>Warrior that charges in and doesn't care about collateral damage with his sword swings
>Monk that tries to be helpful but cannot aim her kicks
>Mage that has only single attack spells
>Priestess that has minor healing and flash bombs
>against a mob that can ruin a village
Seriously, what could go wrong?
>>144012112
If you're playing DnD sure, but plenty of other systems exist.
>>144012167
DM=D&D
ST=WoD
GM=??
>>144012167
I can't name any off the top of my head, but it's pretty much the generic term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster
>>144012025
Tell them to bring some lube.
>>144012025
>swordsman catches their blade in the environment
>doesn't fucking use their sword as a thrusting weapon
what's the point of a sword if all you do is swing it like a retard
>doesn't bring a shield
two layers of stupid
>Roll Perception
>>144012406
>fail on all checks
>>144012419
You were unable to perceive the horde of goblins rushing to ambush you.
>roll fortitude
>Roll for anal circumference
>>144012131
>>Warrior that charges in and doesn't care about collateral damage with his sword swings
>>Monk that tries to be helpful but cannot aim her kicks
>>Mage that has only single attack spells
>>Priestess that has minor healing and flash bombs
>>against a mob that can ruin a village
Standard Shounen Protagonist.
>>144012666
Not even a power of daijoubu could help them.
>>144012666
Too bad they weren't protagonists.
>>144012246
DM refers to dungeons of course, which are more game like by nature. DnD is this, with emphasis on tactical monster battles.
WoD has a storyteller because of course it does it's WoD. Most of WoD settings allow you to never throw a single attack. It's narrative driven, so fighting is the faster way of solving problems, but rarely the safest or wisest.
Something like D20 modern or GURPS would probably have a GM as opposed to a DM because of how the game could lean more on a narrative focus than something like DnD would. That said, GM's are still running a more game like system than that of a storyteller.
Having said that, you could just chalk it down to the fact that a GM is basically a DM, but that there aren't any dungeons in the setting, so DM would be incorrect.
>>144012791
One of them was.
>>144012025
Would actually make the game more texted based magic mystery instead of grinding. With a lot of "revelations".
>>144012962
>Would actually make the game more texted based magic mystery instead of grinding. With a lot of "revelations".
Probably text. Just for the imagination.
>>144012025
>Tunnel that can't be seen
>Enemies spawning everywhere
>Mage instantly incapacitated
THAT GM just wanted his magical realm
>>144012817
Right, a healer that wet herself in front of danger instead of keeping her head cool and heal? Zero knowledge about body condition? She is a failure.
>>144012666
Well, that's something allways triggered me, in fact is the thing that triggers me the most in anime and manga, MC takes the worst possible path of action but gets the best possible result just because "he was right" and everything goes conveniently.
It annoys me to no end when the plot includes time bullshit or parallel work
>You cant save X without sacrifice Y, it has been proved in infinite parallel universes through infinite timeloops of despair.
>Fuck you, I belive in nakama
>Both X and Y were saved that day with a single punch.
So, watching this manga made me chuckle because of that, because you think "yeah, that's the idea". Problem was that at the same time it was unsatisfiying as hell since it was all so fast and actually devoid of meaning, was just a "reference/twist" to set the premise, I wished it had more meaning like you know, party working like that during part of the story and they suffering smaller consequences but warrior bullshit continues (like happens in standard shounen) until it goes to far and they end the way they did.
>>144014073
>So, watching this manga made me chuckle because of that, because you think "yeah, that's the idea". Problem was that at the same time it was unsatisfiying as hell since it was all so fast and actually devoid of meaning, was just a "reference/twist" to set the premise, I wished it had more meaning like you know, party working like that during part of the story and they suffering smaller consequences but warrior bullshit continues (like happens in standard shounen) until it goes to far and they end the way they did.
Given that they fought goblins, I don't think they would reach a certain point like that. Especially since they had children. I would have loved that outcome though. The creeping realization that they fucked up badly but they keep going on because the leader thinks he's right, until its just too late.
>>144012804
FATAL = Maim Master/Aedile
Draci Drupe Plus = Mister Cavern
>>144012762
No, but the power of enemies suddenly becoming less competent would. Seems like the goblins reverted to standard charge at the enemy one at at time tactics instead of working together as a group after the newbie squad was taken out. This would have resulted in every other player punching the DM/GM for favoring his SI-PC.
>>144014224
>MC warrior lost an eye: We can't kill them, they are only newborns, they are INNOCENT! I am sure that if we try we will understand each other
>Wounded Monk: It can't be helped, I knew you would say that
>Mage (can't have children any more): Umu! Yashashiiii, Warrior-kun.
Next week goblins pillage MC village and rapes and kill MC's imouto.
Shit would be glorious .
>>144012131You will see a party of prepared Steel-level adventurers meeting a similar if not worse fate later.
>>144014456
You need to take into account that their leader (shaman) was incapitated so they just followed the biggest dude and charged out.
>>144014477
>>MC warrior lost an eye: We can't kill them, they are only newborns, they are INNOCENT! I am sure that if we try we will understand each other
>>Wounded Monk: It can't be helped, I knew you would say that
>>Mage (can't have children any more): Umu! Yashashiiii, Warrior-kun.
>Next week goblins pillage MC village and rapes and kill MC's imouto.
>Shit would be glorious .
This is what happen to the Goblin Slayer
>>144014477
Something similar happened in a h-rpgmaker. MC let the little goblin go, only to find out he was the head honcho and brought in larger muscles in a later date to kill everyone he cared.
>>144014456
I thought I was the only one who saw that.
When they fought the scrubs they monitorized them, attacked in packs coordinating their moves ,used the terrain in their favor, but when they see helmet they start to run one by one into the corridor after him, not to mention with the exception of one scout no one seemed to care for the missing goblins or the missing adventurer girls and were just fucking girls without being aware of the envoirement while knowing there were still adventurers roaming their caves.
>>144014653
You have to remember that there wasn't any warning. They just thought it was the priesstess and the wounded mage. Both of which were no longer threats. Goblin Slayer appearing out of fucking nowhere did blindsided them.
>>144014645
Goblin Lord in this story is basically that. Except he immediately maimed the woman who let him go.
Choose 4 adventures
>>144014645
What game was that?
>>144015149
The one with the female mage.
>>144014653
>When they fought the scrubs they monitorized them, attacked in packs
This is true
>coordinating their moves ,used the terrain in their favor
I think you are seeing more than what was there.
It was a pre-planned strategy that the goblins where probably always using. There is a difference in brain power required between using a standard pre-planned strategy that they probably always used as well as having their leader/tactician lead them and countering someone who had killed their leader and wasn't acting like a stupid newbie adventurer.
>>144012762
What about nakama
>>144015948
Worked for Goblin Slayer.
>>144015149
Can I fug them or just see how goblins rape them?
>>144012025
I would add a trashtalk roll for all players and creatures.
>>144014477
>Next week goblins pillage MC village and rapes and kill MC's imouto
Not funny Anon. That shit happened to Goblin Slayer.
>>144015149
This is my party.
>>144015149
Ore to Osananajimi to Hinnyuu no Akuma
It's a pretty shitty rpgmaker game so I won't really recommend it.
>>144016667
Why your party looks like the ones you have to slay instead the ones you have to join?
>>144014488
Tell me about the rape.
>>144014707
But why would the goblins suddenly decided to let down their guard then, especially after an attack? They would be in high alert since there could be more of them around. I mean, if they were this careless, they wouldn't be considered that much of a threat to necessitate a specialist like the Goblin Slayer.
>>144019214
Because there's fresh meat infront of them and they sent out 3 scouts to finish off the Priestress and Mage.
Goblin Slayer isn't a specialist, he just has a genocide boner because of what they did to his village.
>>144019593
Except that's my point. Against the newbie party, the goblin acted in an organized manner utilizing the terrain and other things that weren't used against the Goblin Slayer. They hyped the goblins up as dangerous only for them to act like incompetent idiots against the SI. If this was an actual tabletop gaming campaign, the DM would have been punched long ago.
>>144019851
GS explicitly counters and explains the Goblin's tactics to use against them. The ambusher becomes the ambushed when lured into a counter trap. They were dangerous to arrogant noobs who charge in head first without a plan but they crumple against a veteran who knows their pre-planned tactics and strategy, that's the whole point of this chapter.
Plus you can't expect them to think well when all their blood is in their boners.
>>144019851
Because they had mostly won? I believe people would let their guard down when they thought victory was assured. If GS didn't arrive then, their judgment would be correct.
>>144019851
>utilizing the terrain and other things that weren't used against the Goblin Slayer.
Because they already walked past all the alternative route already and the only thing that left is a straight cave?
Reminder that GS follows d&d 5e, so the mass war tactics is why the goblins are a huge threat with their numbers.
>>144012025
Anyone have the mango name? Reverse search is giving me cartoons...
>>144021721
Goblin slayer
>Reverse search is giving me cartoons...
Have you try look at the bottom of the search or the second page? That works for me sometime.
>>144017134
>Why does your party look like the ones you have to slay instead of the ones you have to join?
Don't know Anon. Guess evil is attractive.
>>144021770
Thanks, and I'll make sure to try that next time!
>>144016406
>MC is a hero fueled by vengeance
Quite a letdown with this cliche.
>>144012025
Rocks fall, everyone dies.
The end.
>randomly lashes out her leg without looking at the target first
This is some bad excuse of a martial artist.
>>144022567
>buzzwords
I know is an inpopular opinion but to me it resembled more a DS youtube video than a D&D campaign.
"If you go YOLO you'll aggro everything and die, if you go careful things go well".
Or at least that's how I felt
>>144012025
Well, I have a bad habit of making encounters astoundingly fatal for player characters when I run campaigns in real life. So I imagine that this would go in a very similar way to my last session.
>PCs enter enemy territory
>Fail perception checks
>3 of them die, the last barely escapes from the danger
This literally happened in the last session I ran a few weeks ago. I'm kinda new to GMing so I haven't quite gotten the hang of balancing my campaigns yet.
Luckily my players aren't to unhappy about rolling new characters.
>>144023032
Probably because you haven't played much D&D. First chapter reeks of a blood thirsty DM running a new party through the first ambush in Lost Mine of Phandelver.
>>144023291
It's always handy to have pre-written modules on standby, most of the 1-5 lvl encounters are balanced enough to the point where death is a reasonable consequence but still isn't too hard to avoid.
>>144022567
>cliche
This is literally a 5e Paladin with Goblins as sworn enemies.
>>144022712
Think the shading is supposed to imply that the rest of the hob goblin was in the shadows and she instinctively lashed out at it. If it was a normal goblo, she might have KO'd it and retreat but eh, Author needs a still breathing victim.
>>144023680
>It's always handy to have pre-written modules on standby
I usually recommend that people just starting out running games use pre-written scenarios. That ways they can just focus on the rules and the group and not balancing their own quests. I started running some GURPS scenarios and it helped immensely with getting my head to wrap around campaign structure.
>>144024498
And that isn't enough. A martial artist should have made sure his moves connected without endangering himself. Here she made the fatal mistake in assuming everything is gob-size.
>>144022567
You would be hunting goblins too if they fucked up your whole life.
>>144020447
>>144020569
>>144021108
Again, that's the point I was making. Against the newbie party, the goblins had basically used tactics and organization against them, but didn't against the GS. If the situation was turned around and it was the GS that had first faced the organized goblins that were using tactics, he would have died outright, whereas the newbie group following afterward to fight the goblins that had let their guard down would have succeeded as well. The GS had an easier time as compared to the newbie party. Not that I'm saying GS is crap or anythjng, but it felt like it wasn't GS being better but the encounter difficulty being set easier for him.
>>144025269
>goblins that were using tactics
I think the point is that he would have seen the ambush when he first entered (he spotted the side cave and knew the habits of Shaman led Goblins)
We also know he traps areas ahead of time and that goblins send out single scouts and not groups of scouts. So he would have killed the scout in the side cave, trapped the area behind him, and gone to work once they tried to pincer him.
>>144025269
He's a Silver-ranked adventurer hunting Goblins way below his rank and he demonstrated that he was aware of every mistake the noob party made that caused a party wipe. Is the encounter easier? Yes, because the goblins thought they already won and were too busy enjoying the spoils. Will he job? He won't be the frickin Goblin Slayer if he can't slay a slightly atypical pack of goblins.
>>144025419
But we wouldn't have known that since he pulled off those traps and luring against an entire group of enemy that had let their guards down. If they were alert, they would have called for backup and gang rushed him like they did with the newbie party, and the GS would have died. We would have not known how effective his tactic was because the encounter was obviously set to a much lower difficulty than that of the newbie parry.
>>144025575
>If they were alert, they would have called for backup and gang rushed him
The thing is him taking out a scout is the exact reason why they wouldn't have been alerted to him. These goblins rely on a single scout to tell them when people enter. GS knows this and we see him take out a scout and then immediately take out some goblins in a cave, but the ones in the rape cave which means they are on alert for new people entering.
I think you're assuming that the Goblins were all relaxed and not just the ones in the rape cave. They still were using their tactics which were definitely countered by GS.
>>144023032
If this doesn't feel like D&D to you, you've only played narrative focused D&D where the PCs are Big Damned Heroes encased in plot armor. Which is fine, if that's what you enjoy. But there's a different school of play, an older school, that Japan especially loves. Here's the classic copypasta description.
"When you're in an old-school dungeon YOU'RE IN FUCKING VIETNAM. Check EVERYTHING. Clear out EVERYTHING. Don't take ONE STEP MORE than you have to until you're COMPLETELY SURE it's clear. Check EVERYTHING for traps. Search EVERYTHING. Keep the overall tactical layout in mind because THE GM WILL USE IT TO FUCK YOU OVER. Be PROACTIVE: set traps and ambushes for the monsters before they do it to you. Find a position of tactical advantage and DUMP FIREBALLS, FLAMING OIL, AND BARRAGES OF ARROWS on your enemies."
Notice how it's almost a checklist for Goblin Slayer's tactics? That's no accident. Those are the time honored tricks of the dungeon crawler, who knows how to use every single item on the mundane equipment list in useful ways the book doesn't explicitly present.
>>144025876
>Rely on a single scout
That's just utterly pathetic. This doesn't show the goblins as some grave threat, it just shows newbie party are new and goblins can be very easily taken care of if they're that much of an idiot, which is a complete 180 was what was shown in their fight against the newbies.
>>144012025
I tell the Monk girl to fuck off and git gud so she's spared the rape and carnage
The rest get what they ask for
>>144025907
I dunno. I mean, it's one thing when it's a tough encounter, it's another thing when the DM rules that the fighter can't use power attack because the tunnel is too small.
>>144026290
What, 90% of the fight with the noobs was all their mistake. Fighter bringing a sword too big for caves, Mage standing so close that she got stomach-shanked and monk kicking the Hobgoblin and letting it grab her.
>>144012025
They didn't bring a Rogue into a dark ass cave against mobs with night sight.
>chuckle's evilly, failed perception checks everywhere
Their fighter has a one handed sword and no shield who the fuck does he think he is, Conan?
>lol way to gimp AC and dmg noob
piercing weapons and constitution checks for you son.
Healer and Mage are both potatoe tier
>Guess I'll see if they know they're supposed to CC. Nope. Ok. Have fun with that.
Martial Artist arguably best DD in the party doing what it's supposed to do.
>Oh, it's a pure dex build guess you'd better throw a 20 on that str check.
It's like they tried to fail.
>>144025907
This. Anyone who played Icewind Dale 2 would know this shit.
Reposting because I like this.
>>144026515
So, what you're telling me is that goblins aren't dangerous and that as long as you can take out their one guy standing watch, they will just simply charge at you one at a time, then? Goblins seems to be shit-tier in this verse then.
>>144026290
There is a reason that goblins have such an incredible low bounty. They're not really a huge threat but there's still a big enough problem that somebody needs to go out and take care of them.
>>144026680
From what I've gathered, they are supposed to be shit tier. But apparentlythe gods fucked with the settings and now the goblin population has exploded or something. Because they use mob tactics, this is a very bad thing.
Note that I might be wrong about the spoiler
>>144026764
So, the GS isn't some great warrior but just a single adventurer picking on shit-tier mobs then? That sound about right for a SI work.
>>144025907
I'd really like to play some tabletop games like that, but I don't have friends to play with.
>>144026680
Are you intentionally being stupid. Taking out the single Scout stop them from mobilizing all of their forces at one time and you can pick off each cluster as you encounter them. Did you also forget that as soon as Goblin Slayer finds the shop and he takes him out first which means you're breaking the chain of command and leaving the low-level grunts to fend for themselves.
>>144026680
Yes, because they are a an iron-level threat or akin to smaller more numerous bandits which is just above killing rats in the sewers. The problem is for some reason their population is exploding and more advance version like the Oni are popping up.
Why do you think a guy can reach the third highest rank just by killing a fuckton of goblins? Because there are a fuck ton of goblins multiplying (likely using human women) and he's barely keeping them in check.
>>144026452
Circumstance penalty to his attack roll due to terrain. Totally standard for hostile dungeon environments. That's why you listen to every damned word of the DM's description, then ask questions about specifics before proceeding.
Tight tunnels? That's probably a penalty to slashing weapons. Pile of bones? Don't assume it's just atmospheric, check the "empty cave" for Piercers and Ropers. Fighting creatures with a Scent ability? Make sure you're doing something to counter it.
>>144026856
Actually yes one of the quotes that came from the light novel is a goblin Slayer acknowledging that he's not some great hero and that all he can really do is kill goblins.
>>144026773
I dunno, I mean from what people are saying, just taking out their sole watch-goblin means they won't resort to mob tactics anymore.
>>144026680
>So, what you're telling me is that goblins aren't dangerous and that as long as you can take out their one guy standing watch
Yes? Taking about the scout is pretty much a standard in warfare.
>>144026886
>Swords can only be used for slashing and power attacks can't be applied to stabbing
You must have one hell of a killer DM for him to pull that bullshit on you.
>>144026910
Oh, then I was actually correct in my statement about this entire encounter? That's kinda disappointing then.
>>144026538
A friend asked me to play with him one time. Made a Rogue character, all dexterity, intelligence, and perception. Had rope, knives, and a wood staff I pulled off a guy.
Friend DM: You see 2 sleeping goblins guarding a cave what do you do?
Me: Perception check, see if anything else around. Nope? Dexterity check, lay staff across goblin necks, sleeping perception check to wake them, they fail. Acrobatics to jump on staff, succeed. Two dead goblins and nobody knows a thing, friend convinced I am a serial killer. I did this shit the entire encounter.
Friend was laughing so hard he couldn't talk by the end of it.
Never go dungeoning without a good Rogue.
>>144014073
No, fuck, no.
We already got a full season / novels worth in Grimgar of a bunch of noobs trying to fight some shitty goblins. No more of that please.
Kill off the noobs and carry on.
>>144026927
Yes, because there's only 16 odd goblins. 3-4 of them were wiped out in a back attack when he saved priestress, half were busy raping the women and the other half was standing guard behind the scouts.
They are not some organized army, they are short bandits hiding in caves. This is the frickin first chapter and a routine extermination, did you expect them to be fucking commandos or something?
>>144027173
What he said. The point was that this is what happens when scrubs go on raids, you get a team wipe. Only in this case the team wipe is actually a gank session followed by rape party.
Dumb asses don't live long in DiD game modes.
>>144027204
I expected something more from a group of goblins that knew how to attack as a group, use sneak attacks, readies an action to disturb the caster when using spells, used DR against someone who uses martial arts, lure the sword-woman into a place where she can't use her weapon effectively and used range weaponry against the squishy healer. Basically, I had thought they were Tucker's kobolds only to find out someone had just failed a DC 5 check for goblin lore. It's somewhat disappointing.
>>144027417
They wouldn't be a trash mob anymore if those were implemented.
>>144027447
I'm just saying, the goblins were acting incredibly smart against the newbie party, only to find out they were actually dumber than a bag of bricks. It's rather disappointing.
>>144026990
Depends on the sword. Some are dual type piercing/slashing, some aren't.
>>144027417
>>144027551
Half the shit you describe are basic goblin instincts and the other half is the noob party being dumb enough to go bumbling right into them.
It's sheer dumbness that the party backline was separated from the front so the mage get stabbed, the fighter being dumb enough to swing a sword when she's been walking through narrow caves all day and bullshit they have a hobgoblin on top of being way over-leveled for the noob party.
They get smart enough later on when the Goblin King and the Oni is introduced, enough that they almost killed GS but by then the author toned down on the death and rapes.
>>144014456
Punches would have been deserved long before that.
Everything required to survive the whole encounter without the DMPC is out of reach as they have absolutely no money, the amount of times everyone clearing out the cave should get poisons or hurt clearly outstrips the amount of healing the cleric can do if her magic worked against it in the first place, the one melee not hampered completely by the environment and shitty gear is blatantly below that bullshit hobgoblin that must have been intended to be a final boss but would have just walked around one shotting everyone.
>>144027763
Eh, like I already admitted, the first fight had been over-hyped for the goblins since they were seemingly acting like player controlled mobs. Having been told that they're not and that no one had simply bother to tell the newbie group something as simple as 'take out the lone sentry' would have completely changed the outcome of their fight. It's disheartening that we will never get an actually intelligent group of enemy as the antagonists.
>>144027589
But still, if it was a weapon with reach, I can understand how it can't be used in such tight quarters but saying a sword can't just reeks of selective rule 0 lawyering from the DM.
>>144012246
Used the term GM while playing DSA (The Dark Eye in english)
DM was kinda unfitting since you are only rare in dungeons and more in the exteriors.
Wait, the swordsman was a swordswoman?
>>144028473
I guess, look at them eyelashes.
>>144028473
Yep. A party of all female adventurers lost and gotten raped by goblins. You can tell this is based on a SI ln/wn just from that already
saucheplease
>>144029093
I thought he just looked girly, like shounen protagonists tend to.
>>144029105
But she got eaten, not raped
>>144029252
Alright. An all female party lost, and either gotten eaten or raped by the goblins. You can tell it's based on an SI ln/wn already.
>>144029252
The goblins weren't prioritizing rape over killing threats. Sure they're quick to change to raping but stabbing the mage was clearly to kill her and anyone that was considered a threat was properly attacked.
The goblins didn't proceed to raping mage and the monk until after they were incapacitated.
The fighter was still a threat until killed and so she got killed.
>>144026515
Why would that ever be a problem outside Dark Souls? Sword sixe usually isn't a consideration.
>>144029630
You're saying a disarmed fighter with a wounded leg being held down by a mob of goblins was more of a threat than a disarmed monk being held down by a hobgoblin?
>>144026680
They're supposed to be shit in every verse. That's why this manga makes no sense.
Gobbos are solo tier, this level of strength is bizarre.
>>144029252
>i thought he just looked girly
Her gender is ambiguous. S/he can be whatever you want her to be. I think a party of 4 girls schlicking together is more likely than 1 guy managing to assemble his own harem as a porcelain ranked adventurer
>>144026680
4goblins for 4 copper coins is a standard lvl1 tutorial adventure
>>144029940
My memory must be a bit fuzzy concerning that scene because I remembered it as fighter fucks up from the sword hitting then is immediately ganked/killed.
The monk on the other hand got wrecked and held down by the strongest guy there.
>>144030133
>1 guy managing to assemble his own harem as a porcelain ranked adventurer
that's how it usually ends up in isekai fiction or jrpgs
>>144030359
Basically. The Newbie party was your standard Japanese RPG based fantasy crew and they all got wrecked because they didn't realize they were playing D&D / Dark Souls.
>>144026620
It should end at the "only good goblin" page for more impact
>>144030625
No, more like they got rekt because no one told them about the goblin's hilariously shit-tier weakness of over-reliance on one sentry. Apparently, take that one sentry out and they could have succeeded. Or at least, that's what I'm getting from the novel readers here.
>>144026680
Normally they aren't that dangerous. A shaman shows up and they suddenly learn tactics which makes em much more dangerous but it's easy to figure out that one is there because they start posting skulls on pikes to distract you from ambush spots.
The bigger issue is that massive fatality rate that the guild knows about yet doesn't bother to actually warn the people they send to their deaths about (which would increase caution and actually make more of them live) or at least increase the danger official danger rating of when dealing with them in caves.
That being said there are some logic holes so far like the kill the babies because they will learn and become smarter idea when the shaman was supposed to be the only intelligent type. I can't tell if that's due to the babies being half human or not since anons could have been joking when they said there are no female goblins.
>>144032188
From what I read a few threads back the party was fucked from the get go according to GS since there was a hobgoblin. Remove hobgoblin and the monk would have soloed the entire cave.
>>144032296
Killing any potential shamans seems reasonable.
>>144026773
I think it was a mix of both incompetence and setting favoring the MC. I mean, in the end this wasn't a game but a manga.
They present us the adventurers like a bunch of overconfident idiots so when they fail at something you get the feeling that "its their fault" "they deserve it" and was certainly true with some things like leaving mage and prietress behind but not with others that were pure plain bullshit, sword too long for using on a cave? Can't he thrust? They stand next to a tunnel and don't see it because they saw the totem? Not to mention huge hobgob appearing from nowhere. One scout spoted them and half horde gone affter them.
Then on the other hand the MC is presented as us like a careful guy that uses tactics and we have to think "things goes well for him because he is careful" what then again is true sometimes but then again convinient things happens like no other goblins going to catch the fresh meat or solo scout gob in a dark cave and instead of running to call the others is killed. Hobgob that has dex enough to perform stealth attack on monk falls to a trap (when they are suposed to have vision in the dark).
The way they were presented was soposed to make us think they gone unprepared but honestly they didn't do that bad, Monk and Warrior were pretty skilled they were fucked mostly by the story.
>>144032514
It is. It's just that it sounded more like he meant as a whole rather than eliminating the shaman threat. So they go from smarter than people think/admit to sudden int gains if they survive an attack. The threat levels and reasoning behind em are inconsistent all over the place.
>>144032522
The cleric using that flare was supposed to temporality blind it and weaken it's sight so that it doesn't notice the trap. Why the hobgoblin chose to chase her at full speed when even the stupidest creature waits till it can see or stumbles around is something I don't get but at least the logic makes sense.
>>144032522
>sword too long for using on a cave? Can't he thrust?
It was dark and he was swinging. His demise was met when his sword hit the the wall. Thrusting would help but not against a mob where slashing multiple foes would hold a better advantage.
I just feel like it's trying to present that those who are not prepared get fucked. The mage thought herself a prodigy, the warrior thought that sheer determination of will would prevail. It didn't, they both died and the line fell.
seriously what manga
>>144033627
Dark Souls.
>>144032188
I think people are saying that if you remove the sentry you remove the flanking maneuver that the Goblins use. They still do congregate in groups but that lone Scout is kind of the trigger for your group getting surrounded. Otherwise you encounter 4-6 at a time and can get the drop on them instead of the other way around. This however is not taking into account the shaman who's the Magic caster and the Hobgoblin.
>>144034126
Offensive magic users obviously need a buff on this setting.
>>144034126
In short, the newbie party was screwed no matter what they did then.
>>144014488
Did they fuck up or was it just an unlucky situation?
>>144034616
If they had waited for the DMPC they would have survived but it's standard policy for the guild to send off people that have little chance of survival to fight goblins rather than force them to at least know wtf they're doing.
He's literally just that one dude in the entire organization so him or an equivalent showing up is highly abnormal.
I don't know if the people in charge have noticed the goblin population explosion or not but the current policy is to basically send the goblins breeding factories until a set of newbies strong enough to wipe out all the trouble that's been caused actually shows up and wins.
>>144034616
Basically; they lacked the equipment experience or common sense necessary to complete this task without any casualties which is a common story in this world. and like >>144034983 pointed out the guild either hasn't realized the goblin population has exploded or don't care because they continually list Goblin slaying Quests with low Rewards so nobody outside of goblin Slayer is really tackling them en mass.
If they wanted to ensure that people died less to these types of quests they should stop porcelains from taking them and make them go fucking kill rats in the basement. And increased the reward, that way higher caliber adventurers would be more inclined to take them
>>144012395
>flimsy leather armor
Three layers
>longsword in a cave
Four layers
>>144015149
>none of them wears proper armor
-5/10 would not adventure with
>>144022712
Her father would be rolling in his grave
>>144012025
>proceed?
Just like in mango
Well, maybe would give monk chance to die quickly, she was last stupid from this bunchmage get extra care though
>>144012025
just to get things out of the way early, have them roll for anal circumference
glad someone already said it once
>>144015149
>Goblin Slayer
>Goblin Slayer
>Goblin Slayer
>Goblin Slayer
What do I win?
>>144036470
>What do I win?Goblin Slayer
>>144015149
They arr rook useless. Mage and rabbit are cute at least. I'll "use" them
COUNTERACTION RISING!
Choose your class
>Gotta rape human women to make goblin babies
>Goblins proceed to stab and flail around the human women well within killing a hair of killing them rather than just incapacitating them
Goblins are fucking stupid
>>144036954
They are. It's the point.
>>144035559
>>144033370
why people is so mad at the long sword? He could have used it to thrust enemies if the plot didn't prevent him from doing so. There is nothing wrong with a long sword there.
He was swinging it because there were several enemies you say? That makes no sense, either the cave is huge enough to hold a group of enemies then the long sword could be swinged without problems or the cave was small and only one or two enemies could be in front of you and then using thrusting weapon would be efficient.
There was lot of enemies in front of them but the sword was long enough to collide with the wall? That just does not compute. If was long to hit the wall there couldn't be so many enemies in the cave and if there were as much enemies as we saw then the sword could be that long.
>>144036869
Swashbuckler would be the class I would pick, but only because I am never patient (and skilled) enough to use assassin classes.
Really like assassins with the stealh, burst oportinity and such but my brain and poorly gamer skills only allow me to either go to the melee and smash buttons or stay away and shoot arrows while others do the work
>>144036869
Class: Sorcerer
Race: Race of Ritual
Subclass: Scholar
1 Hit AOE faggots.
>goblin slayer
>goblins are the weakest creatures in the world
>basically the mudcrab slyer of morrowind
>>144038110
>Goblins are the weakest creatures in the world.
No they are not. Rank 10 Adventurers straight out kill Rats who are the weakest creatures.
>>144036869
>Guardian
>Human
>Alchemist
>Hunter
Gotta smite ALL the goblins, kid.
>>144038110
Nah, one of the gods decided to fuck with one of the goddesses who liked humanity and buffed the gobbos to ridiculous levels as well as give them a population boom.
>>144038961
Is it fair to say that god who did that is the God of Goblins?
End game boss found.
>You're the Game Master and this group of adventures want to play a Game. How do You proceed?
I would do my best to keep the players invested in my game and have fun, at least until they all stop coming to the weekly meets....again....
>>144038961
Be an evil dick god, wants to annoy goddess of mercy, decides to buff goblins and increase their numbers.
What a shitty evil god, why not to buff slimes or kittens?
>>144037508
Sneak attack works with ranged weapons for assassins and allow for what you just described due to all of the skill trees so there's really no reason you can't.
>>144036869
Cleric (heals everyone)
Summoner (summons tons of meatshields)
Bard (buffs everyone)
Guardian (tanks until Summoner gets the army up)
Win by outnumbering everyone with stronger monsters than them.
>>144012025
The guys I used to play with were horribly resourceful, I remember at one point they were begging me to have an epic big boss battle with no added minions (i.e. just make him REALLY tough) so I had them fight this goat demon
>Party relies a ton on the Wizard, was the tactician and always came up with successful plans
>Decide to take him out first, he isn't allowed to talk when he's KO'd so he can't cook up a strategy for them
>Design a goat-demon boss with an obscene charge ability
>They reach him
>Surprise attack charge destroys the Wizard and sends the group into a panic
>Cleric busy keeping the Wizard alive
>Barbarian goes berserk and keeps the demon busy
>Wizard is up again, casts Haste (doubles movement on next turn) on Druid, Druid casts it on Barbarian
>Druid casts Caltrops (2d4 for every square walked on) in a straight runway
>Transforms into a bear and grapples the demon by the horn, raging Barb does the same on the other one
>Hasted Bear+Barb drag demon across the Caltrop runway and back dealing massive damage
>mfw my presumed OP boss dies in less than 5 turns
>>144040633
Killkittens are dangerous enough on their own and buffing them removes their main advantage of being too cute for anyone to notice that they have paralytic claws.
>>144025907
Don't forget that every edition included a 10 foot pole in its short equipment table. Also, these kinds of adventures are often called "Gygaxian."
>>144040828
Your mistake was forgetting about action economy. Removing minions drastically weakens the boss by not tying up players a little as well.
>>144012025
So who trainee Goblin Slayer? With no one to look out for him he could easily have ended up like these guys. Also if he's gotten to Silver just killing these guys why hasn't the church or government rewarded him for making the lands safer? A short sword he can light on fire to use as a torch or clean the blood and fat off would be perfect for him.
>>144036869
Half-Alv Cleric-cum-Brewer-cum-Prostitute. Clerics are OP and outside of combat, I bring happiness to the party with my superior alcohol-brewing and slut skills. Also, since I am a cleric, I can cure disease any STDs I get and make sure I don't get knocked up. Half-Alv racial bonus means I encounter all the monsters I can fuck instead of fighting and add them to my reverse harem of fanboys.
I'll probably end up as a demon lord after catching all my pokeymans so I can take my time fucking them in peace.
>>144041107
He just got gud.
>>144040828
>an epic big boss battle with no added minion
Hahahahaha. You done fucked up now. Unless said epic boss is a spellcaster, he was doomed the moment everyone rolled imitative. Solo bosses that doesn't have caster level aren't bosses, but just a roadblock.
>>144041107
They apparently have theoretically bigger problems to worry about like demon invasion.
The goblins are imo a larger long term threat due to how massive swaths of adventurers that would eventually become strong enough to defend against the real threats are getting culled.
>fighter
death by stupidity
>mage
death by stupidity
>cleric
should have been raped instead
>monk
only decent member, fucked over by inept team members
>>144040828
Our last GM just made every enemy obscenely tough, like you almost always have to 2v1 a fucking mob.
>in dungeon
>fishhuman in front of us, not noticing us
>knight tries to strangle him from behind
>fishhuman is too bulky
>gladiator and cleric also jump on him
>too bulky
>mage, cleric2 and archer jump on him
>fishhuman is on the ground
>we try to torture him to give us information
>he dies of shock because we stuck our hands up his gills repeatedly
>>144040998
>forgetting about action economy
I didn't, for the players level this guy was probably the most obscenely powerful single-mob I've ever made. Spells, immunities, abilities you name it, I've made dragons weaker than this guy
Caltrops lays down a LOT of squares, it's meant to cover up a square/circle, not a strip, but can be layed down anyhow as long as it's within range. Now assume a mob steps on every Caltrop square in a single turn
THAT'S what I didn't see coming, I honestly don't think there's a single spell in 5e that does even close to that damage (I believe 2d4*12 if my memory is correct) until maybe 7th level spells
>>144041342
I'm just saying. At least a ring of low light vision as a token of gratitude or something.
>>144041107
Goblin Slayer originally studied up on the biology of Goblins.
He killed the ones who would move in small packs of 1-2 and travel about. He would watch how they poison their arrows with piss and shit, when they get the smell of females Goblins are known to become sexually active. Goblin will not kill females immediately unless hungry/they really need to as the woman kept resisting or show signs of being extremely dangerous. Most of the time they are used as sex slaves for the packs in a den or the wandering Goblins which found a traveling woman.
He kept doing this for awhile; monitoring and recording the Goblins actions. Learned to split them up. When he followed some Goblins to caves, he explored the entrance noticed they like to small tunnels and entrances to use for surprise attacks.
Etc, etc.
[] Marry
[] Breed w/ for the Sole Purpose of Procreation
[] Both.
>>144041430
They're all stupid and should all be dead for going there in the first place and also not noticing the side caves.
>>144041430
Are monk and mage already dead? They could have made at least OK characters given the tragedy they just had, adding to their personas.
>>144041342
Gee, it almost sounds like a big job for a person that specializes in taking out certain low level trash mobs and would end up rewarding said person with untold riches and fame if he succeeds.
The DM would have been bludgeoned to death with the PHB at this point.
>>144041797
is she a rape victim too?
>>144041594
OK. I do like that. As far as weapon skills though, is that just experience from practical use?
>>144041841
goblin slayer killed mage
monk is mind broken and got sent to a church
>>144041921
She is a pure.
>>144041841
>>144041430
Fighter
-Death by Mutilation
Mage
-Death by Poisoning/Slit Throat
-Raped
Cleric
-Alive
-Wet herself
-Arrow to the shoulder
Monk
-Alive
-Raped
-Retired from Adventuring.
Goblin Slayer
-Alive
-PTSD from Goblin Attack on Village and Bad End to Sister.
>>144041981
>mind broken by like an hour of goblin dick at most
That must have been some fine dick.
This is your Dungeon master for Tonight's game
>>144041921
Almost. Dwarfbro saved her
>>144041882
I'm the guy who asked why doesn't he get rewarded. I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, but what I was trying to say is that his genocidal actions have probably helped keep stability in his area so that they can focus on those bigger threats without as much worry. Some recognition would not be unwarranted.
>>144041437
Why didn't you just use a spell on it? Or just outright attack with non-lethal damage?
>>144041938
Everything he knows about killing Goblins he got from experience hunting them slowly.
>>144042023
Is Goblin Slayer's imouto dead or in therapy with the other girls at the temple?
>>144041469
Are you dumb? Caltrops only do 1 point Of Damage.
>>144042086
>>144042023
Thank fuck. I always knew dwarves are the best nonhumans.
>>144042176
>Is Goblin Slayer's imouto dead or in therapy with the other girls at the temple?
Dead
>>144042023
>Retired from Adventuring.
That was a fast call.
>>144042108
It was DSA, we wanted to save up as much mana as possible since it takes like 4 nights to fully recover it.
>>144041107
My theroy :
>GS was one of those fools
>his comerade got killed by the gobs
>vengeance
>GS git gut slowly
>now he's the ultimate GS, helping other fools
>>144042139
He should write a book.
>>144042092
I'm saying this entire premise of goblins suddenly getting massive population boost reeks of specifically creating a huge problem that only the DMPC can solve.
>>144041521
>>144042092
That would be nice and all but the guilds are blatantly incompetent thanks to wasting so many adventurers.
A problem with noticing how useful he is is that most situations that would make it obvious result in noone being alive to report.
In order to really hammer in the threat level you need a top ranked adventurer group to happen to waltz into a cave despite those being relegated to starter jobs, run into oni, either escape or defeat the various oni, and make it back after dealing with whatever the fuck made them want to go in that cave in the first place to make a report.
Otherwise it's just the usual noob teams they send to their deaths dying which doesn't give a real gauge of how strong the things are or the actual threat they present.
It would be a like giving a person an award for exterminating roaches from an outside perspective.
>>144041882
You say that like I don't agree that a DM making that campaign would have deserved to be beaten to death by now.
>>144042040
Not that kind of mindbroken. More like Geiger Counter style of mindbroken.
>>144042246
>>Retired from Adventuring.
>That was a fast call.
Watching your friends getting killed and then being raped By the BGC does that
So how does the game darkest dungeon compare to goblin slayer?
>>144042297
seems to me it was more like the situation made the man instead of the other way around
>>144042346
it would be very easy to play as the party that got raped by gobs
>>144042202
5e buddy, maybe I got the name wrong but it was a Druid/Ranger spell that sprouted invisible spikes on the floor
though it's rare to see it picked up as most adventurers I see go for burning oil as go-to area denial
Why didnt they invent guns?
>>144042294
The Guild got recorded books/archives on certain Monsters in certain areas.
He doesn't need to write a book when more exist.
>>144042246
>That was a fast call.
Not really. Rank 10's drop out rate is high if they pull shit like Monk girl and friends in taking on something they were not ready for.
None of them thought to even wear chainmail under their clothing; something the Priestess does after Goblin Slayer tells her to, along with a small dagger for emergencies.
>>144039535
ACTUAL tabletop DM found
>Killing the filthy Goblin children
>Not dragging them tied to the surface to be used as training for Newbies because they keep dying
You gotta train up more Gobbie Bashers Goblin Slayer. You could make a good business.
Plus, you could always profit on letting towns people take their aggression out on them.
BEAT TO DEATH A FILTHY GOBLIN SPAWN
Figure out a price people are willing to pay.
The Goblin Slayer has reached his ideal, and became a Hero of Justice.
>>144042139
would save from ptsd and marry/10
>>144042686
Younger meat is fine too, Anon.
Any LNfag here? Does the tone gets down as we go through the story
Why are /atg/ threads so comfy?
>>144042992
>Any LNfag here? Does the tone gets down as we go through the story
its still gritty. the Author had to tone down the death and rape because readers didn't like it
>>144042992
Steel Ranked Adventurers (These are the Mid-Tier Ranking) (Rank 6 if I fucking remember their numbers correctly) get destroyed by Goblins and their Boss later.
There is no getting off this fun ride, Anon.
>>144042608
Is that him an Guild Girl?
anyway
>hair didn't turn white
weak
>>144043055
>the Author had to tone down the death and rape because readers didn't like it
Fucking Isekaifags ruining the only fun stories out there
>BAAAAAAAAW WHY ISN'T THIS A COLORFUL ADVENTURE I CAN SELF INSERT INTO
>>144043085
No that's the Cow Girl; a good friend of his who farm he helps protect.
Also she has some big tits.
>>144043176
>sweet armor
>airhead childhood friend with big udders
>kills goblins every day
This guy is living the dream
>>144043055
>>144043080
Cool, some anon said later it becomes more humor and shit so I'm worried it's gonna turn out to be another casual another world story with harem and shit.
>>144012025
I think the only way a group like that could actually die like that is if they had a retarded DM that insisted that they roll stats along with a bit of bad luck causing them to be worse than peasants.
>>144043176
Why is she topless?
>>144043176
Did they fug?
Also is she a rape victim?
>>144043124
>Fucking Isekaifags ruining the only fun stories out there
They all self-inserted as the swordsman or quite possibly as the monk. swordsman dies by mutilation monk gets the BGC and PTSD. Holy shit I would have love to see their reaction
>>144043394
If I self inserted as the monk I would be turned on as fuck desu.
>>144043314
Because titties that amazing need to be free range.
>>144043263
Anon he gets a party and makes actual friends if that counts. He can/will still solo the shit out of Goblins, but when it comes to bigger Goblins like the Oni (Which he confused for a Goblin) he gets assists.
>>144043261
He is living the dream.
>>144043314
Because its her fucking property.
>>144043342
>Did they fug?
No.
>Is she a rape victim?
Stop asking this question. No, she's good to go.
>>144043124
>>144043394
>Not liking Isekai
Dungeon Seeker is better than this piece of shit.
>>144043521
there it is, you're a little later than usual
>>144043516
Dump-anon you based but I can't help but picture you with some angry dad's voice
>>144043521
Every Single Thread
>>144043639
In the last thread a faggot accused me samefagging as batfags. Fuck that shit, I'm so mad I haven't reply early today.
>>144043521
Fucking found it. Thank you anon
>>144036869
Why do so few games have a good sword-mage class?
>>144043521
>WN this copied off of didn't even get a LN/Manga
Fucking, Nips I swear. Sakamoto 666 is great.
>>144043261
>armor
yes please
>childhood friend with beeg teetees
Dammit how am I supposed to self-insert now?
>>144043818
>Sakamoto 666 is great.
Have you seen his next work?
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/hp1-kara-hajimeru-isekai-musou/
>that fucking review
>>144043780
Hard to balance, though FFXI Blue Mages were fucking strong as hell.
>>144043516
>That lizardman
Did Goblin Slayer fuck that Lizardman?
Cause it'd be hot.
>>144043897
Being a LN artist must be suffering sometimes.
>>144032296
>The bigger issue is that massive fatality rate that the guild knows about yet doesn't bother to actually warn the people they send to their deaths about (which would increase caution and actually make more of them live) or at least increase the danger official danger rating of when dealing with them in caves.
I'd wager the guild has it in it's policy that you are responsible for yourself. She did try to offer a suggestion to the party. But they refused. At which point she was under no obligation to warn them any further and couldn't stop them since they are free to make their own choices however stupid they may be. And it's not like it wouldn't be impossible for them to complete the quest despite their rank. It's just their lack of experience, which the fighter said he had when it came to killing goblins.
>>144044012
Is he even an artist?
>>144036869
Summoner cum Enchanter
Race of ritual
Alchemist/Pharmacist
Animal trainer
I'd solo a party by myself.
>>144043963
>Did Goblin Slayer fuck that Lizardman?
Guys can't love guys Anon. Lizardbro is okay.
>>144044048
I was referring to the artist for Sakamoto's LN Mtu.
Considering LN artist get money from the LN being sold and whatever the people payed them for the drawing. There's also the fact that their name gets out there as artist thanks to the LN as well.
>>144044088
But it's not gay if it's a Lizardman.
>>144012131
The lesson here was inexperience, all four members of that party had the best start possible and had the cleric not been dawdling they might very well have cleared that dungeon.
>>144044150
Oh well, in that case you are very right.
>>144043780
>sword-mage
Ever played The Witcher, anon?
Although I have to agree the mage part is pretty weak
>>144043963
>Did Goblin Slayer fuck that Lizardman?
Actual LizardMAN, my dude.
>>144040828
How big was this demon? A level 20 barb with 24 str should only be able to drag up to 720 lb. unless they were a goliath and assuming it was a brown bear they would be able to drag up to 1140 lb. Either way if it was less than that next time you should definitely just make it really big.
>>144044037
It's a known problem to the guild that they don't have enough people for goblins while they shove off even more of them to die to make the problem of not enough newbie adventurers to take em out even worse. That's just plain bad management crippling itself in the long term.
>>144044225
Nah. Hobgoblin was blatantly above their level nor apparently warned about in the guild pamphlets. The cleric didn't even have the appropriate spells to counteract the sepsis and wasn't even told about it so that she could heal properly. The team was completely fucked from the get go. Having no money for basic meds or better gear is also not best start possible.
>>144044334
Yeah pretty happy about the combat in the third one but there are so few that actually get it right.
>>144044694
> Having no money for basic meds or better gear is also not best start possible.
They had money to get basic shit; they ignored it because they assumed the Goblins in the den would be 5-7 and would be like how the Fighter described them.
>>144044496
Large size (4 squares, so 20ft^2, don't remember the weight though)
> A level 20
lol, what level do they get their 3rd level spells again?
Obviously I couldn't let them pull that shit again, the next boss was an almost completely airborne fight
>>144044924
No. The fighter said what would be the point of going to get items with money they don't have. If they had money for potions they would have already bought them and ran into the cave before the cleric showed.
They outright did not have the funds.
>>144044694
They were all extremely talented for beginners and had the gear they needed. see witches staff.
They just got fucked because of inexperience, sword man had never fought in a cave or as part of a team before, they let their party line get split, etc
>>144045114
The Cleric had money.
>>144044990
You get 3rd level spells at level 5. I just used a level 20 barb as an example for the maximum drag a medium sized PC could manage without the enlarge spell.
>>144044907
I'm just wondering how all this shit could have been avoided if only they had someone with a knowledge of monsters like a witcher's
>>144043780
Do people call them sword mages?
I thought it was always spellsword
>>144045242
After collecting on the goburin sureiying job.
>>144045141
That didn't help, but the hobgoblin fucked them.
Without that in the way the monk would have soloed that entire cave.
>>144045242
She didn't use it or bother to ask them if she could buy herself a potion despite apparently having enough sense to think of it. That's her own fault. She's also not obligated to pay for poorfags even if she does need to carry her own stuff. Plus she's a cleric. She theoretically had no use for potions/antidotes because noone told her that lv 1 spells don't remove goblin poisons.
>>144044037
It's still a massive waste of life when they know there's a problem with newbies dying to Quests like this but you still allow them to take them. Porcelain ranks shouldn't even be allowed to look at the job board until they've done some grunt work for the guild to prove they're not completely incompetent. And since a goblin Slayer has more than proven that he's willing to Mentor someone maybe that should be a policy to.
>>144045447
If they encountered Goblin Slayer the Fighter most likely would still end up dead or hurt in some form.
Because he was a dumb ass.
>>144045528
I used to call them either gish or spellswords until the DnD 4e class called sword-mage was released. After that I just started saying sword-mage since it is the official terminology of DnD.
>>144045587
Does that mean she collected all the reward for herself? She was the only one who made it out, technically
>>144045528
Spellsword is the cool and ever so slightly archaic way to say it. Swordmage is the more slangy version of it following the X-Mage description format.
>>144045633
Their mage could have killed the hobgoblin with her single target spells.
Once again, inexperience not lack of ability.
>>144045747
>that Toussaint intro sequence
I see your point
>>144043516
>Goblins are bad
>Lizardmen are okay
Goblin Slayer is fucking it up
>>144045727
Why would anyone give a shit about some no name kids dying in some cave? They are supposed to know the risks when they sign up for it. If their parents didn't beat the fear of death into their hotheaded teenage heads hard enough it's not the job of the guild clerks to parent them. No one forced them to go there and take the extermination tasks. Besides why would higher ranks mentor lower ranks when that would create competition in the field of work? Any pragmatic adventurer would tell you that after a certain point it becomes very inconvenient to have too many people running around, competing for requests. And no one wants to share the rewards either.
>>144046010
gobshites = monsters
dwarves, elves, lizardmen = nonhumans
nonhumans != monsters
>>144046010
well apparently the lizardmen aren't making a big deal about raping killing and eating all the humans they come across
>>144046010
>lizardbros
>anything but the greatest of friends and underdog heroes, ever
>>144046117
>Dwarves
>Not monsters
>Elves
>Not monsters
>Lizardmen
>Not monsters
>Lizardman needs to stop eating that cheese and our food supplies.
>Why is there a old man at this table.
>The Priestess who pissed herself is still talking.
>This Elven slut keeps eyeing me.
>My feet hurt.
>My butt hurts.
>I just want to talk about Goblins and my notes
>I just want to talk about this quest.
>I just want to kill Goblins
>Should've raided that den I saw this morning.
Being, Goblin Slayer is suffering.
>>144045727
You can argue that, but at the end of the day, chances are, this guild's policy is more laissez-faire. The receptionist did her job the best way she could, but the final choice is up to the adventurer and despite her suggestions she isn't allowed to stop them unless they don't meet some standard calculable requirement, which they most likely did. Chances are, Porcelain ranks could very well do the job they signed up for. Hell, they probably had the raw stats to complete this job as well. They were just over-confident and lacked experience.
>>144046260
>my notes are being used as tablemats
>how did we afford this wine
>>144046059
No one is considering the gobs outnumbering the humans, really? Or is this a tabletop thing where players and DM care jack about long-term effects of adventurer deaths?
>>144042404
Oh, Spike Growth.
http://www.5esrd.com/spellcasting/all-spells/s/spike-growth
The area is ok, but it's a Concentration spell, so The player can't cast any more spells, and taking Damage will probally break The spell.
Well, if your boss is just a dumb brute without means to do ranged attacks, you need to re-think about what makes a creature dangerous.
>>144045727
Because newbies die all the time and nobody gives a damn if you don't listen and just rush in. Everybody knows it was the fighter's fault for being too overconfident and a shitty leader. Besides, it might have worked out if the goblins were total noobs as well.
>>144046696
Seeing how the local army has not been dispatched or armed militia wasn't formed yet those conflicts are mostly local in nature. If you had goblin armies rampaging around the countryside, looting and pillaging, they'd be very quickly dealt with. Some women and kids getting kidnapped once in a while is not a threat to humanity. That's exactly what the guild is for. If one adventurer party can't get the job done, then some other will.
>>144041594
No female goblins sofar?
Seems like the feminist female goblins really got killed of and the male decided to fuck it and use human and demihuman cute girls for procreation.
Whenever a female goblin is born they eat it instantly.
>>144046696
If goblins were really that big of a problem, wouldn't it be the concern of the kingdom itself instead of some guild in a town?
So how do you guys think our boy Slayer sounds like?
After seeing his supposed face I can't help but hearYuki Kaji
For some reason, the idea of gods playing dice seems utterly stupid. Leave that to NGNL, please.
>>144046906
Maybe they do have female goblins, but they decided to maximize production by having other females too.
>>144042409
Reloading early guns takes like a minute and you gonna end up bashed by goblins.
A more sensible choice would be sending a formation of heavy cavalry into the caves.
>>144045810
That's possible and I've argued for it before but the mage had almost no spells per day so it's not a reliable thing to bet on whether or not she wastes all her fireballs at the first group. Surviving the hobgoblin usually would require either knowledge of it in advance or the goblins to be thinned out quicker.
Experience would have most definitely helped but I honestly have no freakin clue how high a lv it was compared to them other than too high.
>>144046059
Too many monsters running around and a lack of adventurers able to take them on because you let most of them die at lv 1 is far less ideal nor is what you propose remotely pragmatic.
You're also just really invested in noone caring when if noone cared there wouldn't be attempts to rescue women kidnapped by goblins or the after care for everyone in the first place.
Your whole argument seems to hinge upon a complete lack of human empathy.
>>144046437
That's what we thought during chapter one. Then chapter two came out and it's apparently common and daily. Then LN readers said that the guild usually just sends em out like an assembly line and the guild doesn't want to spend the money on them actually being assessed at a proper threat level because the people strong enough for them cost more money.
It's not just the porcelain being dumbasses. It's the goblins being stronger than they are presented and waiting until some prodigy group manages to live and complete the task.
>>144046696
The population explosion was (relatively?) recent(probably within the last few decades) due to gods fucking around. Goblins basically have the reputation they had when they didn't pop out 40 more in a few days and everyone that's noticed isn't bothering to do a thing about it.
Author also didn't think of the long term implications.
>>144046907
It's called priorities. Demons creating armageddon vs theoretically but not at all contained threat of goblins that can be dealt with before mankind's immediate annihilation.
>>144046915
I'd think he'd have a voice that doesn't match his face, like one that's deep even without his helmet muffling it
>>144042608
I might be wrong, but the art style reminds me of the guy that drew Kampfer and that Vampire vs. Frankenstein story.
>>144046915
Ono Daisuke or broke.
>>144046878
Countrysides are where farms are located, as do the usual merchant routes to towns. I'm pretty sure that they put those in their priorities.
>>144047124
>heavy cavalry into the caves.
>Cavarly
>Caves
I'm sorry, wut?
>>144046906
Goblins are a male dominant species.
Best guess if female Goblins do exist they like female sex slaves are shared by the pack of male Goblins, but due to them being Female Goblins they get more privileges/better standing within the group and get to shit on the sex slaves.
>>144042769
Who is the sex goddess with the blindfold?
>>144043176
And she not afraind to show em.
>>144047159
>It's called priorities. Demons creating armageddon vs theoretically but not at all contained threat of goblins that can be dealt with before mankind's immediate annihilation.
It takes one guy to take a cave full of goblins, why would u waste time killing these things when you can just crush them with one silver rank adventurer? In any case, it is like killing cockroaches, they'll just pop out whenever you think you have killed them all. People are far too sensitive, 7 girls got raped, and now people want to send heavy cavalry to wipe out goblins. It is not a matter of priority, people are just white knights.
>>144047159
So you're telling me that my argument hinges completely on the lack of empathy and then in that same post confirm that it's exactly the case, with the abundance of adventurers being sent into the meatgrinder, until someone finally gets the job done. And there isn't a lack of adventurers to take them on. There is a lack of proper funding for those adventurers. The show is ran by money. Promise a lucrative reward and you'll get a silver right on it, cleaning things up nicely. But a poor village can't afford that, so they have to rely on children that want to play heroes for little to no reward. The outcome of that is very predictable.
>>144047267
Head of the Temple the Priestess from. She's also pretty damn strong.
>>144043176
>Badass knight who slays goblin scum for a living
>Has also cute friend with delicious tits
Bless this man.
>>144012246
HackMaster
>>144047240
>dat pout
protect
>>144047240
That witch is nice, and th girl with the panty line aswell.
Still it bothers me that she seems to have the panty line of a modern style panty in a medievil setting.
When will Priestess receive the Big Goblin Dick?
>>144047594
Priestess will receive the BIG LIZARDMAN DICK
>>144047592
that hardly looks medieval anon, and it shouldn't be since it's fantasy, magic would be a huge contributor to technological advances
>>144045771
She probably split it with monk-chan for her hymen/vagina reconstructive surgery.
>>144047434
Damn she should have teached the prietess more about being a babe than about being a shitty priestess with only 3 times minor healing and one time small light.
Well for a lvl one char that might already a lot of prepared grade 0 spells.
>>144047399
It takes one specialized guy that's the only one that bothers to take such a low paying job. The heavy cavalry idea is stupid and silver ranks are generally overkill. The only thing that was needed was a bit more mandatory training or experience (eg not shoving off first day on the job adventurers into something they're too weak for) to drastically reduce the threat.
>>144047723
Basicaly any fantasy setting is stuck for 10k+ years in the middle ages until some drifter or dwarf invents rifles.
Technological advancement is stagnating in near any fantasy setting with magic.
>>144047917
Technology basically advances when it has to, when developed magic does better than primitive guns, nobody will bother to advance them except as a novelty.
>>144047592
>Modern style panty in a medievil setting.
The world that Goblin Slayer takes place is in is strange. It's quasi-medievil.
If you head to the East you will get to a variant of Asia (Japan/China influenced) where only few people from where GS is has gone and dealt with the monsters over there.
Example: is the Oni who took control of some Goblins who he confused for a Goblin.
Also, Guild Girl has the hots for Goblin Slayer.
>>144048378
When it has to, now I really have to think about the dark ages.
They have problems curing fecal poisoning, they sure as hell would need some shit like antibiotics.
Where is the suspense gonna come from? Are there super super goblins who will give him a challenge? He pretty much solod all the goblins in the cave without a sweat
>>144048601
Well, nobody gave a shit about the peasants and even nobles only got slightly better care.
>>144048601
No one discovered bacteria even existed until the late 1800s though and in world where gods are proactive with healing and presumably anti-poison no would do the research necessary to create anti-biotics
>>144048601
>>144048932
I'll be surprised if it's shown that they regularly shower.
>>144048932
IIRC the antiseptic technology of the time was to burn herbs and pray to God to lift his curse from the afflicted.
It was hardly reliable but they had no other way of visualizing germ theory.
>>144030133
i like how GS picks up (basically loots) the dead guys sword and comments that using a long sword in such cramped confined quarters is stupid
>>144049136
Bathing was a luxury. Nobles didn't even bathe that often, just slathered on more perfume to hide the smell. And their best outfits were kept in the privy closets to keep the moths from eating them.
>>144049299
He actually does use it against the hob in a bigger chamber, but only when the hob is face down after tripping. And he basically impales the hob instead of swinging it.
>>144047159
>Experience would have most definitely helped but I honestly have no freakin clue how high a lv it was compared to them other than too high.
There was no goblin in there that they couldn't have killed 1v1, other thank monk not being able to deal with a hobgoblin that caught her from behind.
The party weren't just some random mooks, they were prodigies who got gibbed at level one because of inexperience The idea is to set the scene for the world being unfair by referencing the typical shounen MCs party.
>>144049347
iirc only the Jews bathe regularly in Europe.
>>144041107
He had a teacher who took care of him after his village was raided by goblins.
>>144049136
Vikings regularly bathed. Even had little combs for their beards. Not sure if they actually took a bath but they at least wiped themselves down on a regular basis.
>>144049136
>>144049347
maybe unlike medieval europe they arent retards and bath regularly like the nordics or greco-romans did
If I went to an isekai world the first thing I'd do is invent the flush toilet.
The average modern peon lives better than most medieval kings.
>>144046059
>If their parents didn't beat the fear of death into their hotheaded teenage heads hard enough it's not the job of the guild clerks to parent them.
The return of the "it's babying if you tell them off" argument. Right now the guild is inefficient because they are wasting (based off these two chapter) 75% of their new recruits. Out of the whole party only the fighter was worthless and even he could kill goblins. The guild loses a capable monk, and an untested prodigy mage which is bad math if you think the equation is fine as is.
>No one forced them to go there and take the extermination tasks
True, but all I'm saying is why the guild would allow any entry level member to take on a quest where it's clear porcelain is not enough?
>Besides why would higher ranks mentor lower ranks when that would create competition in the field of work? Any pragmatic adventurer would tell you that after a certain point it becomes very inconvenient to have too many people running around, competing for requests. And no one wants to share the rewards either.
[Citation needed]
Where are you getting the idea that competition is a problem for this world? In the story so far we have nothing to support that. Goblin Slayer willingly helps the Priest and even mentors her during, and after the mission. Provided she's paying for her own shit, but he's not too opposed to taking someone under his wing. And the pictures coming out of the LN show that parties are frequent with varying ranks in members.
>>144049347
Actually it wasn't. Communal baths even existed throughout Europe for a long time until retarded greek worship of the "good old days" wanking started to take over. Then it was spontaneously decided that according to the 4 elements too much water makes you sick and everyone got told to stop having them.
>>144049922
>The guild is inefficient.The guild is actually doing fine.
I got to tell you that now so you know.
>>144049742
these aren't vikings though they're "medieval" possibly renaissance people now, Though we don't know much about the infrastructure or the world like if they even have a sewage system or under feudalism.
>>144049460
Warrior was a guy that claimed to have done shit, when all he had going for him were the stories of others.
Monk actually was trained, but only learned to fight humans, this might work against smaller enemies, but if the opponent is like several heads larger than you good bye training.
Mage got praised to much and was high of herself.
Priest instead of learning some more went out of the monastry to play adventure, despite only three minor heals and one light spell per day.
You over estimate them.
If they were as weak as warrior boy claimed 7 girls working on the fields or dong other peasant chores would physicaly more than capable enough to overthrow even armed gobs.
>>144049922
>appyling modern day values to a medieval fantasy world
adventurers are mercenaries with a different name and the guild is non-other than a third party gathering quests and mercs in one place.
>>144049908
Hell even with basic school knowledge you should be able to bring them a shit ton of basic inventions that would make you the richest fucking guy ever.
>>144049136
>>144050125
Anons these people do have bathes/springs (Not modern of course) they use. Temples got the tricked out bathes for their followers.
>>144050076
> readily obvious and documented loss of new recruits
>No actions taken to curb it
>Efficient
You can't honestly be this dumb
>>144050303
Ask the common person, how does a toilet work, and you would likely be faced with silence. The only thing you'll have is concept, and the moment you tell medieval peasants about the future and the grand things that they have, you'll just be mocked.
>>144050219
>You over estimate them.
No I don't, I just understood what the author was going for.
>>144049977
Was it the greeks who liked to bathe or was it the romans?
>>144050125
Wasn't saying they were vikings. Was just saying it doesn't take a lot of water to clean your feet, your crotch and ass, your hands, your armpits, and for some the underboob. As I hear it boobs sweat a lot. Hell. They probably have an easy time getting water by either praying to gods, having a mage do it, or possibly relying on a shaman.
>>144050458
both, since the romans basically idolzed the greeks
>>144050379
but do they bathe because they smell nice and remove dirt and grime or do they bathe because they know about bacteria and viruses?
>>144050441
This is why I have researched how everything around me works.
>>144050441
This, niggas always talking about how they'd invent tanks and shit but can barely count.
If anything the average person would be at a huge disadvantage because of their ridiculous accent and terrible hand writing.
>>144050548
Alright anon, how does a toilet work.
>>144050076
They're in a crisis of not enough adventurers to take on these low level quests as almost noone willingly goes back to dealing with goblins when there are higher paying jobs with the same or less danger of death/rape.
What's this shit you're talking about concerning them doing fine?
>>144050458
Both as a prime source of bad things happening was it turning out the person you were peeking in on bathing was a goddess.
>>144050289
Common sense and the values we saw so far inherent to their general morality is applying modern day value?
>>144050548
>>144050579
keep in mind you also need to make the materials to and then build it.
>>144050440
They aren't an army.
>>144035775
LEEEEEEE ROYYYY JEEENKINS
>>144050440
Anon I'm telling you the guild is efficient and is doing fine in the LN.
Losing Rank 10/9 isn't a big deal; when the Guild loses Steel Rank Adventurers (Mid-Tier) they go this shit can't be put up with.
Also most Rank 10's fucking listen to the Desk Receptionists advice and start bottom up. Its not uncommon to get dumb fucks like the Fighter and his party though who wanted to try and move up fast as possible and get guild.
>>144050540
>Do they bathe because they smell nice and remove dirt/grime
They bathe mostly for that, and they know if a wound isn't cleaned/healed it will become infected you'll die.
>>144050656
again the guild is non-other than information brokers and nothing more
>>144050798
*guild ranks.
>>144050445
Really?
Because we weren't shown that the warrior actually accomplished anything, his flash back was admiring some adventurers. Aside from that he was only arrogantly claiming to have taken out dozens of goblins.
Monk had a flashback to her father who trained her, no actual achievments.
Mage had a flashback of the teachers praising her, despite that magic training takes decades, and she was adventuring when not even 20.
Looks more like they wanted to get rid of her than to let her research some more.
Do I need to repeat myself about priest girl again? She has two skill one can be used thrice and the other only once. Once that is done the best she can do is bait, otherwise she is balast.
>>144050798
so they no about bacteria and viruses but haven't invented penicillin.
Choose your healer.
>>144050579
A fully automated system would require water mains which presumably don't exist in a preindustrial society. Assuming it does (lel Create Water), you can build a porcelain bulb to float on the water's surface to automatically cut off water flow into the tank once it's full enough. This part can be substituted with peons with buckets.
The actual flushing mechanism also requires a dedicated sewage line, but assuming that exists, it revolves around dumping the tank's contents into the pool of shitwater below and triggering the siphon effect which sucks all the water and shit into the sewage line. The effect stops when the bowl is empty of shit and water and the bowl fills up again through water inflow to the tank.
>>144050917
They don't know about bactria/viruses per se. They just know you can let a wound sit out like that without pouring some water/healing water over it.
>>144050927
Assassin. Perflat is justice.
Alternatively, CoDzilla is strong.
>>144050917
>but haven't invented penicillin.
Do you count moldy bread as penicillin?
>>144051210
Moldy bread is penicillin + mold toxins.
>>144051269
Then they invented penicillin.
>>144050798
You can be doing fine and still have problems anon. The second chapter makes it very clear that the guild is aware that they're losing newbies to these bottom tier quests and yet no effort has been made to curb this by just not letting these idiots go off and get themselves killed.
>>144051330
natural selection
>>144047481
>Badass
Why do people keep confusing "Preset Stoic LN character A" for badass?
>>144051314
Penicillin is much more than moldy bread though
>>144012025
Tomb of Horrors, bitches.
>>144051395
>Why do people keep confusing "Preset Stoic LN character A" for badass?
Because we realize we almost had this dumbass as a protaganist
>>144051314
Nope. They didn't isolate and culture it.
It's like saying people invented vaccination because they noted that people with cowpox didn't get smallpox.
>>144034745
Oh god that's horrifying.
>>144050905
Where was it stated that magic training took decades in this series? That would be severely weighted against humans ever bothering to learn magic or set up infrastructure thanks to the sheer time investment.
But let's say it does take decades and humankind invests in magic since high level wizards are tactical nukes. The fact that she apparently graduated before she was in her 20's means she legitimately IS a prodigy so I'm not sure what your argument against it is by bringing that up?
We saw the monk in action. She was clearly skilled.
We saw nothing concerning how good the cleric was compared to others so no point in using her in this argument. Using the fact that she had a standard amount of spells for her level by D&D standards is also a bit silly.
>>144050927
Anything but cleric is objectively wrong
I hope there's a subplot with other silver ranks hating Goblin Slayer due to accusations of him setting up the beliefs that Goblins are pushovers when his genocide has only made them stronger due to survival of the fittest.
However, it's a LN so this is just gonna turn into moeblob shit with your waifu/husbando of the month getting killed/raped by the goblins for DRAMATIC EFFECT with the exception of the priestess
>>144051940
How does survival of the fittest work when he kills every single one of the goblins? It would make sense, if he was only allowing the strongest ones to live, but he isn't.
>>144012025
>thread everyday
>only two chapters out
Why
>>144051940
Is Goblin Slayer LN being translated?
>>144012025
I'd go the maximum asshole way.
>>144051940
To me, that would only worsen the readers' outlook of GS. Remember, Kirito also had haters in the form of other Beta Testers and they are usually depicted as the vocal minority that exists to be taken down by the MC or a bigger threat that the MC will eventually defeat.
>>144052077
>Why
Why not.
What were their Stats?
>>144051727
DnD system, it is basically part of DnD that mages always train for times much longer than other classes as magical studies take really long.
The advantage is that they might not stay youthfull, but they gain a certainly longer lifespans and then you got demihumans like elves that care little about a few decades.
>>144052054
There's always that one goblin that escaped him.
>>144052054
He couldn't possibly kill every single Goblin and that reason is why he tries and goes out of his way to kill every single Goblin.
I'm not saying what I wrote is true to the story, it's just a story element I would like to see explored because there has to be a repercussion when your name is bloody 'prefix' slayer
>>144051727
Well, she can take arrows like a champ.
Somebody post the page of rough taking it out.
>>144052110
Good luck getting players to take your bait.
>>144052205
How does it work in a typical game? Mage fucks off and returns more powerful at the expense of his fellow adventurers?
>>144051940
On one hand GS prevented goblins from killing mankind. On the other he's probably been doing such a good job cleaning up that noone has been noticing that an already bad problem has been escalating for years so taking real action has been put on hold.
Everyone believed goblins were pushovers before GS. Then their reproductive rate exploded which meant more evolved into stronger forms that could also teach the weaker ones tactics.
>>144052205
Fair enough. Powerleveling/adventuring is faster once you hit lv 1 which she seems to have reached.
>>144052332
uhhh yeah, makes my dick tingle
>>144012025
Tomb of Horrors. Assuming I can't be arsed to make a CR appropriate campaign.
>>144052332
I'm surprised the arrow wasn't poisoned either.
>>144052580
You think goblins can afford poison? They live in a cave.
>>144052124
True. But it falls to the author of the story to write good characters with believable motives to oppose or assist the protagonist.
There could be a great story of an anti-hero too focused on his personal genocide to fail to see he's only making it worse or it could turn into what my original post implied. There's no way to tell until it happens
>>144052399
Essentially, yes. Mage is weaker at the start of the game but later on he carries the party by himself.
>>144052554
>uhhh yeah, makes my dick tingle
Sadist.
Lets be friends.
>>144052580
>I'm surprised the arrow wasn't poisoned either.
Maybe they were afraid to hint one of their own?
>>144052580
well she has plot shields unlike her shounen buddies anon
>>144052273
Generally, when you commit genocide on a species, they become weaker. I have no idea where this idea of "grr, my goblin family was slain, I'll get revenge and become stronger", came from.
>>144041437
That made me have a fit of giggles. Praise fishhuman.
>>144052399
Mages just are shit until they get to a higher level and get the "good" spells. Their defenses are bad and they literally die from one hit. It's super dangerous to play them.
>>144052620
In the next couple of pages, GS says the dagger mage-chan was stabbed with was poisoned with shit and herbs.
>>144052667
>genocide humans
>MC is mad and will get revenge
>is super strong
Gee, I wonder.
>>144052667
It only applies to MCs.
>>144052684
Mage's problem is lack of stamina, something which the five minute
workday solves.
>>144012025
So, is there a Dragon Slayer? I want to see him fight this guy.
>>144052077
>Why
/atg/
>>144012025
They're my PCs in my game?
Roll Initiative motherfuckers.
>there are those who blamed the guild for poor management that sent those newbie to their death
But it's totally their fault for biting more than they could chew. They knew that those goblins can rout a village. Just what did they expect 4 of them could do?
>>144052169
Somebody make a character sheet for these niggas
>>144052634
Are there people willing to wait a couple decades just to have a better offensive? Especially in a typical tabletop game?
>>144052898
They're like barely lvl 3s. The goblins were like lvl 5. GS is like lvl 7.
>>144052926
People gain levels much faster than that. D&D is designed so you need 13.33 on-level encounters to gain a level, and at level 5 wizards make the fighter pretty much irrelevant. That's about 3 months of play or so, at most, and mages can rek face even at level 1, just not through direct damage.
>>144052926
Yes. Tabletop games span years in game depending on the setting. There's more to do than just fighting too. It's quite fun.
Healers are the biggest sluts
>>144052866
The front desk girl did told them to wait for someone actually competent.
>>144053144
Reminds me of grimgar.
>Shit, we can't beat a single goblin
>there's rabbits and shit under that tier
>>144036869
>summoner
>has to track down monsters and do quests to get his summons
That sounds fun as hell, sign me up for a dwarf summoner scribe and I'll explore the shit out of everything.
>>144053064
You need a good group and GM for that, though.
>>144053191
How dare you underestimate rabbits, sire!
>>144052985
that's their nature
>>144053224
You have my ritual healslut.
>>144052866
In this instance the guild's front office lady did try to tell them not to, however there are instances of similar stories where adventure guilds are negligent as fuck and I think folks just jumped to conclusions.
>>144053098
>>144053266
don't bring that /v/ shit here
>>144053318
She warned them, they didn't listen. They would have done something else stupid.
>>144053318
People are always cocky nowadays and don't listen to authority. Serves them right.
So I just read chapter 1, guys. Does that mean warrior-kungot owned by little kids, both in brawn and brain? Is there any worse humiliation than that?
>>144053339
that's tg, m8
>>144053486
He got ganked. He's like that salty guy where he goes they need X people to bring me down.
>>144042448
>None of them thought to even wear chainmail under their clothing
OH GOD MY NIPPLES
>>144053486
getting gang banged after trying to do that sweet spinning heel kick you always wanted to try seems pretty more humiliating.
>>144053516
>tank
>dps
>/tg/
But seriously, who rips from yanpress so I can read this?
>>144053191
The rabbits kicked their ass offscreen
>>144053545
Yeah, but he still underestimated them, stating that they are as strong as children and think just like them.
>>144053559
Should have prioritized on escaping the ambush instead of continuing with the quest.
>>144012025
I'm okay with the fact that the party was wiped. But if this was an actual tabletop game with actual people playing these characters, I would probably have left out the rapes. Shit's awkward.
Like, I don't think I would see the Monk's player again if I said, "...and then hobgoblin and half of the other goblins gang rape you to death. That's tough luck, but you were doing kinda good there for a bit! Hope you had fun, see you next week!"
I don't think the Monk player would come back.
>>144053766
Magical Realm bro.
>>144053766
Just a typical game of fatal
>>144053806
I thought a typical game of FATAL was just rolling up a character.
>>144050798
What were the ranks again?
>>144053318
I think both parties are to blame on this. It was clear that a group of porcelain scrubs weren't ready for this yet the guild's policy doesn't seem to to restrict quests by rank. Then we find out chapter 2 that this is common which baffles me why they keep letting the cycle repeat itself instead of just making the rewards for goblin slaying better so higher ranked adventurers will take the job.
Fighter dragged all of his group along with him just because he probably 1v1'd some goblins in a forest and wanted to rank up faster for glory. They weren't experienced for that kind of job and it led to them getting surrounded and picked off way too easily. Combat-wise fighter and monk could have held their own against normal goblins. But their formation and the presence of a shaman and hobgoblin sealed their fates. It was going to be a TPK until Goblin Slayer showed up.
>>144053971
Survival of the fittest. Send in parties until a strong one finally finishes it.
>>144053806
>>144053920
Don't forget anal circumference.
>>144054085
How could I ever forget the most important part of character creation? I mean, it will determine if I get, essentially, a free pouch.
>>144053947
Rank 1: Platinum
Rank 2: Gold
Rank 3: Silver
Rank 4: Bronze
Rank 5: Ruby
Rank 6: Emerald
Rank 7: Sapphire
Rank 8: Steel
Rank 9: Obsidian
Rank 10: Porcelain
>>144054051
That's retarded. Why waste potentially valuable members just because you don't want to enforce some standards in your job request system?
>>144054176
It's cheaper.
>>144037322
the sword got caught in a small indentation in the cave wall, the guy was swinging wildly because he was panicking and not thinking straight
he got murdered the moment he got caught because he was in shock and surrounded by goblins
>>144053971
The clerk still recommended them to try easier quests first before taking the goblin quest. It's just the warrior somehow thought he could take out a bunch of children that could raid and pillage villages. Did he expect 3-4 goblins could do that or what?
Hell, that seemed like an impromptu party, so they didn't even care about formation and strategy by leaving their supports behind to be ambushed.
>>144054176
>That's retarded
It's more cost effective and if it the system was fucked or not working it wouldn't be common place.
Stop getting upset that a fantasy world doesn't follow your own set of morals and ethics
>>144054176
Have Rank 1s been seen yet?
>>144054176
Emeralds are more rare than platinum.
I swear... Just what kind of mineral content do their mountains contain?
Do you guys think the front desk lady sent in the gob slayer or the guy just happened to be slaying in the area?
>>144054356
GS just really really really fucking hates Goblins.
He was probably there on his own the moment he heard ANYTHING about Gobos in the area.
>>144054218
what cost is there to just saying "Only [insert rank] and above can take a quest?
>>144054294
>Stop getting upset that a fantasy world doesn't follow your own set of morals and ethics
Is common sense and a desire not to waste lives exclusive to just me?
>>144054298
Not yet, and the LN crew we've seen so far seem to float between steel and silver.
>>144054414
So what do they fight after the Goblins?
>>144054426
Enforcing different rules always takes more money
>>144054426
>desire not to waste lives exclusive to just me?
you're the only one bitching
>>144054176
>retarded
They have already given their advice/warning, so the adventure guild is not held responsible for anything.
Something similar happened in a game I played, and it's just like what happened when you went in overconfident with yourself.
>>144054437
Orcs. And you'd best believe there's ecen more rape.
>>144054426
>Is common sense and a desire not to waste lives exclusive to just me?
This is a semi medieval setting. You don't get babied. If you sign up for a job, most people expect you to do it. It's not the Guild Ladies job to keep the rookies alive. That was their teachers fault or their own. Their teachers clearly failed in their education and they went in without a plan.
They wanted the "easy" way to the top. It's just the easy way to the top is also the easy way to the bottom if you aren't smart or an Isekaki Protagonist.
>>144054426
Quests works on bounty systems, so long as you can produce proof that you complete it they will reward you. It doesn't matter if you are a porcelain if you can bring back a Dragon's head. Higher tier adventurers get access to support from other members (GS brought the whole guild down when he realize he needs an army). It's not the guilds fault if Porcelins like to run off and get their ass killed without support.
>>144054051
That's stupid and you know it.
Through proper training and manpower management, one good adventurer and twenty porcelains can become one silver and a handful of rubies and emeralds.
A shirty guild can turn the same people into a silver and twenty corpses.
>>144054663
Is GS a fucking platinum or something?
>>144054755
silver, which for hick town is serious shit
There's not going to be anymore monster rape. This was it.
>>144054746
>Through proper training and manpower management, one good adventurer and twenty porcelains can become one silver and a handful of rubies and emeralds.
Its not an army idiot
>>144054755
Silver
>>144054746
It wasn't the Guild's job to train them. We were shown who trained them. They were freelancers who were taking jobs offered. It'd have been different if they were Guild trained. Their mentors wouldn't have let them be so fucking stupid.
Instead they all had mentors that only trained them in doing their one class job and not how to not fucking die
>>144054746
The hell can you make rubies and emeralds out of porcelains that don't bother to go through your beginner quests? Even if you force them, they will just ignore the teachings until their grave.
>>144054755
Platinum is for legends only and do their own shit.
Gold is for people who solve national level crisis and are always busy.
Silver are people who do stuff for the Guild and basically sit at the top of the Guild because of few Platinum's existing and Gold's are always busy.
Goblin Slayer is Silver Rank.
>>144054830
>monsters can't even enjoy their spoils
Such is the power of whiny SJW readers.
>>144054919
in theory if they had a bit more common sense they could have easily take out the infestation none of them sans the swordsman were shown to bad.
Platinum Paladin when?
>>144054631
>You don't get babied
How are job standards the same as being babied? If anything these people should be apprenticed to someone since this is a medieval setting and that's how guilds worked back in the day. This guild already doesn't function like historical guilds and is a product of tabletop and video game logic.
>>144054663
>It doesn't matter if you are a porcelain if you can bring back a Dragon's head
Except porcelain means scrub in this world. And there's no reason to believe that someone is going to be a hidden Shonen action protagonist since it's common knowledge that newbies get TPK'd all the time.
>>144054176
God Tier: Platinum
Goat Tier: Gold
High Tier: Silver > Bronze > Ruby
Mid Tier: Emerald > Sapphire > Steel
Low Tier: Obsidian
Noob Tier: Porcelain
>>144055008
>common sense
But all of them are lacking in that.
>bringing a long sword to fight in a cave
>kicking everything that moves
>not sticking close to the front row
>can't read condition and seal wounds along with the poison inside
>>144054336
Platinum is the highest form of currency, also muh platinum god dragon.
>>144012025
Change to nWoD
I like storytelling more than dice rolling desu
Except if it's vampire
Fuck vampire
>>144055040
>If anything these people should be apprenticed
they was they were all-well not the swordsman shown or said to been taught to someone did you even read it?
>>144052645
maybe the arrow was poisoned but that was fine because she got a healing potion fast enough
>>144055262
I'm saying they should be apprenticed to someone in the guild since that's how guilds operated in the past. Clearly their previous training didn't help them that much since they don't know how to be adventurers and would need training by other adventurers to improve and gain experience.
>>144054858
Dat fucking lack of systems.
They were lucky that the gobs were only as strong as they are. Or else the guild will eventually regret doing things so simplistically. The town is lucky that zerging isn't within the plans of the gobs yet.
I've always expected guilds to replace the militia in small settlements because they handle manpower better than the town chief.
>>144054830
Fucking dropped
>>144055222
that's why i said a bit more
>they didn't study their enemy
>they allowed themselves to be separated
>they had no escape plan
>they didn't bring any potions
>none had at least chainmail and swordsman didn't at least bring a knife with him
>>144055371
what don't you understand exactly? its not the guild job to train anybody they are nothing but middleman designed to bring quests for help and mercenaries in one place
they are NOT military
>>144054991
More like nips purityfagging as usual in this case
>>144055371
The receptionist lady told them to wait for an experienced adventuerer to show them the ropes. They refused and rushed off.
I'd say the guild lady could have been more insistent on telling them to wait, but they were arrogant enough to charge into a dark cave with literally no planning or preparation. I'd say that the guild has already done their part.
>>144055613
She probably sees idiots like this all the time. For her sake, it's best not to get attached or care.
>side story of guild receptionist breaking down when she realises she sent bright-eyed young hopefuls off to be murderfucked by monsters when
>>144052580
It probably was. She's just got a higher save than the wizard.
>>144052620
The poison is literally their shit. They can afford it by the crapload.
>>144055486
>what don't you understand exactly?
I was responding to another anon who claimed that this was a medieval setting. Guilds actually made all new members apprentice under someone in order to educate them. So clearly this type of guild is more a video game style guild than a representation of medieval society.
> its not the guild job to train anybody
Agreed, but isn't Goblin Slayer training the priest now? If the guild can offer jobs to kill goblins, why can't they also offer jobs for training newbies? It keeps their responsibilities minimal and improves the quality of the whole organization.
>>144055613
>I'd say the guild lady could have been more insistent on telling them to wait,
This is all I would really ask. Once someone sees a quest on the board there's nothing really stopping them from running off and trying it regardless of whether or not the guild signs off on it. It's not like anyone is going to stop them at the door.
>>144055613
She could have said that they were ten years too young to be adventurers in the first place. Also tell the guards to keep them cooped out in town until they are older and less dumb.
>>144055772
>Agreed, but isn't Goblin Slayer training the priest now? If the guild can offer jobs to kill goblins, why can't they also offer jobs for training newbies? It keeps their responsibilities minimal and improves the quality of the whole organization.
Goblin Slayer taking the priest as his student was more his initiative.
The Receptionist was secretly paid off by the goblins to send them more women for breeding.
The sad part is that clearing the cave was in fact super easy and at very little risk to the adventurers
Literally just smoke the goblins out by rolling bales of soaked flaming plant matter into the cave and stab anything that tries to not suffocate by running out of the cave. All it costs is some rope and flint
>>144055871
what about the women?
>>144055769
An anon mentioned that it wasn't so bad because it got pulled out quickly. Kind of makes sense since the poison wouldn't have time to spread.
>>144055804
>telling adventurers to stop adventuring
>abusing LEOs to keep armed mercenaries from going anywhere
>>144055804
Fighter is clearly too retarded to care, though
>>144055772
>why can't they also offer jobs for training newbies? It keeps their responsibilities minimal and improves the quality of the whole organization.
why would they? because against they're not military they are middlemen all they have to do is gather quest and mercs and nothing more
>>144055906
Non virgins can die too
>>144055804
>the clerk forbid them from doing the quest
>those kids, being stupid kids, decided to challenge it anyway to prove their "worth"
>similar consequences
You cannot cure glory seekers in the first place, especially stupid ones. Whoever thinking preparations are a waste of time should die a horrible death anywya.
>>144055906
They paid the price for race-mixing
>>144055906
Impure. Fire will cleanse them
>>144055751
who knows, maybe she's new, maybe she's somewhat meek, or maybe receptionists mostly deal with the regulars, or maybe a full party of suicidal newbies doesn't happen too often in one area
>>144055804
If anything that would only embolden them, these are young, hotheaded, and fairly combat-competent people. If they had done their research, prepared, made a formation, checked carefully, they'd be fine. But they fucked up be not doing any of that.
>>144055959
This argument has been used against that anon multiple times, he doesn't understand cause he's retarded and thinks the guild has infinite resources and cares about whether people die or not.
>>144055959
Why not? They keep losing new members and it seems like one higher ranked adventurer could guide a larger group of newbies through missions and keep everyone alive and teach them. Jobs get done. You lose less porcelain recruits, and you can get veterans to pay attention to lower ranked quests which seems to be a problem in this setting. Everyone wins and the guild can line it's pockets.
>>144055906
Should be doing that before they get kidnapped imo but it honestly sounds really fucking dangerous to smoke out an entire cave in a fantasy setting.
The next thing you know there's a pissed off dragon that started it's nap 500 years ago and is mad about not having enough sleep.
>>144043080
How does High Elf Archer fit into the group of GS and Priestess?
She is too cute.
>>144054663
So the entire system actively incentivises these newbies to act retarded? I wish I was surprised at how bad a system that is.
>>144056220
The whole world acts on that system. It's like you're blind to the real world, anon.
>>144055871
These guys didn't even buy proper armor, or make any plans before rushing in. Do you think they have the tactical capacity to do something like that?
>>144056105
He just straight up ignores that it's not an army.
>>144056122
>sleeping dragon gets the smoke
>suffocates in its sleep
The smoke is the be all to end all of cave murdering for everything that needs to breathe
>>144056121
>They keep losing new members
and? again all they have to is gather everything in one place and either get paid in commission or state taxes and by the tavern they also run they don't need to do anything more.
>>144056286
>thinking that a dragon would sleep in a small cave with poor ventilation
If a person can wake up in the middle of a night because of a lack of oxygen, a dragon can too
>>144056121
You forget that high ranked adventurers actually focus on high ranked quests. If they have to bring noobs with them to those quests, all they have are more dead weight to protect. You can't expect high ranked adventurers to do low level quests all day just to train noobs when there are ogres and shit out there waiting for them to slay.
>>144056254
No it doesn't . Stop being retarded anon.
We have certificates, diplomas, and licenses and anyone caught doing what they're not supposed to be qualified to do is generally supposed to face a form of punishment for that according to the law.
>>144056121
It looks like the guild cannot into investment. They probably only see the trickle on money down their pockets and not the long-term possibility that they will lose adventurers and will be forced to leave the town (and risk being ganked by bandits) or watch the town and themselves go up in flames due to inadvertently helping the gobs expand by killing off the competition.
>>144056256
Armor is legitimately expensive anon, they are adventurers, not nobles.
>>144056220
No such thing as labor laws, you get paid for the work you do, and if you lose an arm that means you can't work and you die.
>last thread - Goblin sympathizer
>this thread - Newbie (Idiot) sympathizer
What next?
>>144056395
the healer was able to buy chainmail
>>144056286
Which class can make smoke?
I could imagine an adventurer that solves everything with smoke.
>>144056395
>Armor is legitimately expensive anon, they are adventurers, not nobles.
Padded leather, regular leather, shit even clothes that were padded, could have help them.
Instead they wore armor that all the other shounen Protagonist wear, and paid the ultimate price
>>144056105
You do realize that more than 3 people post in this thread right?
>>144056267
Are armies the only people allowed to let their members train each other? I thought this was a guild. Isn't training members what guild also do?
>>144056356
I meant have people like Goblin Slayer accompany newbies on lower ranked missions. No reason to send newbies into even more danger by having them try and take down a balrog? Just place an incentive on training positions and let the guys with the time to do it handle it.
>>144056388
There wouldn't be a need for a police if people acted justly. There wouldn't be a need for a janitor is people could clean up themselves. There wouldn't be a need for lawyers if you could defend yourself. It's all based on people acting stupid on their own behalf. It's how the world runs.
>>144056507
>I thought this was a guild. Isn't training members what guild also do?
you're intentionally ignoring arguments now aren't you
>>144056318
>>144055959
>>144056507
>to let their members train each other?
that should be up to the adventueres and nothing more and you're forgetting that they're were able to do lower quest but decided against that
>>144056505
The mighty villager with his torch and bales of hay
>>144056507
>he thinks danger isn't dangerous
It doesn't work like that. You can't just send someone who's experienced and expect newbies to do well with them. Newbies have to learn for themselves by racking up lower experience first.
>>144056507
>I meant have people like Goblin Slayer accompany newbies on lower ranked missions.
Goblin Slayer is obviously different from other high rankers because he only has an agenda against goblins and doesn't care about other monsters. Do you actually think there would be other silver ranks going against only sewer rats because the rat bit his mom when he was a kid? You can't expect other actual silver ranks to do porcelain level quests.
>>144056464
Jewery sympathizers.
>Yes, that chain mail armor is worth the price of 200 potatoes. Cough up the money, goyim, I have more swords to brea-er, repair.
>>144056728
>got to silver killing just goblins
How?
Although, Rat Slayer would be cool to see.
>>144056505
Le Weedman, he solves peasant uprisings by turning them into stoners.
>>144056507
How many times you see a lvl100 run with a bunch of lvl 1 noobs?
>>144056734
Haven't seen any examples of jewry yet, though
>>144056395
Not what I was pointing out at all.
>>144056469
That was after taking her entire party's reward money. Still really damn cheap imo.
>>144056528
Are you trying to chewbacca defense me?
>>144056763
He killed so many goblins that a God bestowed the title of Goblin Slayer upon him. How do you think he managed to rank up? The guild system probably is point based in some way that roughly calibrated to xp per mob.
>>144056763
rats won't slaughter your home village and sister anon
>>144056813
b-but anon i obviously know better than an institution as big and popular as the guild with none of the adventurers raising stink about their way of life
>>144056921
You tell that to 1347 Europe, anon.
>>144056921
Bubonic Plague, anon.
>>144056921
The Bubonic plague begs to differ.
>>144056921
they are the masters of Biological warfare though
>>144056507
>thought this was a guild. Isn't training members what guild also do?
They are middlemen for freelance jobs. There's no training.
>>144056568
They are ignoring that it's a problem in this universe with the goblin population exploding and their lower ranks getting killed en masse, along with a high dropout rate within higher level adventurers. It may not be an army but this is still a business that needs new bodies to keep it running. Unless you expect the clerk to pick up a sword and go out there fighting?
>>144056612
They decide against it because of pride or money.
>>144056654
>What is a teacher
>>144056813
Lord of the Rings and most western fantasy have clearly OP guys travel with people not on their level.
>>144056728
>You can't expect other actual silver ranks to do porcelain level quests.
Which is a problem in the story and why I'm not confused why the guild doesn't add more incentives. Just looking at goblins, if they don't get dealt with fast entire villages are destroyed, seems like a reason to make sure you aren't giving them more breeding stock or weapons by sending in porcelain rankers.
>>144056887
>Still really damn cheap imo.
Goblin slaying is not a low level quest at all, definitely not Porcelain tier. It may be for Steel or Obsidian. And all the bounty that is suppose to be split into 4 only worth 1 chainmail. It is actually quite expensive
>>144056763
>>144056921
Some might argue they're worse.
>>144057145
that's also probably why it only takes two goblin den exterminations to be promoted, it's difficult work
>>144057060
>lower ranks getting killed en masse
Are they really? While this is probably common, it only happens to the idiots that don't listen to proper advice. And those idiots would have gotten themselves killed regardless. No one has the time, money and patience to train dumbasses. And it's not even their job to do it. They just handle the paper work and money.
>>144057060
You're looking at 2 extremes here; Porcelain are complete noobs and Silver is around dragon/demon-slaying. In between there's everything from Emerald and Steel and those guys are the ones that's dealing with the goblins.
Porcelains are supposed to go kill rats and shit in sewers and only face goblins when they party up with the Steel forces. They are the ones that are supposed to train and do the extermination. Only GS is crazy enough to one-man army them which is why he's silver.
>>144057241
>it's not HR's fault
>they just do the choosing
please anon
>>144057060
>Lord of the Rings
I don't know about LoTR. The only notable thing I saw an supposedly OP char like Gandalf do is cast Shining Light into a pike formation
>why the guild doesn't add more incentives
because there are already incentives. Steel rank will be motivated to go. Silver won't. Add more is just bad investment
>>144057241
What the nubs should do is outnumber the gobs and trial and error them to death. The survivors will be blooded, hardened veterans.
>>144057145
>Goblin slaying
Probably not too hard. the problem is they went straight into their hometurf with no preparation.
If these guys just hunted down groups of 1-6 outside. they probably wouldn't have a problem.
>>144056955
>>144056991
>>144057001
>>144057020
bubonic plague was caused by people being filthy fucks and fleas, the rats just transported the fleas
>>144057292
>rats and shit
What else could be in sewers I wonder
What do porcelains even do
>>144057310
They don't assign quests. They offer them and the adventurers accept.
>>144057060
The people in the Lord of the Rings weren't mercenaries. They weren't even getting trained in combat, they were just wandering around thinking about what to do and trying to get to Tiras Mithril. At any rate, there is no financial incentive to train newbies, and the guild isn't some sort of rich organization. Likely just a small service that is being paid by the crown or by towns people. Goblins aren't actually a big threat, only a few girls get taken, once a goblin den gets bigger, they get wiped out.
>>144057420
>Goblins aren't actually a big threat
I'll believe it when they can't kill me.
>>144057363
probably stuff like clear goblin encampments or kill dire bunnies or something
you know, most things easier than attacking a goblin stronghold
>>144057310
>Put up a bounty poster with clearly stated opponent and danger level
>Am responsible for any idiots that attempts it
Technically they are not even hired, they just slap on a dog tag and said don't be stupid so we won't need to use it to identify you.
>>144057363
Porcelains shouldn't be assigned kill quests tbqh
Why not give them fetch quests instead?
>>144057478
they don't exist anon, don't get spooked by something that doesn't exist. In that world, anything can kill you. Bandits are likely a bigger threat.
>>144057329
>The only notable thing I saw an supposedly OP char like Gandalf do is cast Shining Light into a pike formation
Gandalf is the closest thing to an angel in the Lord of the Rings lore. He's one of 5 beings tasked with managing and monitoring Middle Earth (all color coded). He also fights a Balrog to the death, dies himself, and then ascends to a higher position
>>144057420
>The people in the Lord of the Rings weren't mercenaries.
That's not the question. It's how often do you see OP people traveling with non OP people. It's pretty common in fantasy fiction.
>there is no financial incentive to train newbies
Except having more bodies to throw at a problem that aren't going to immediately die. Even if you assume that not every person is going to get higher than Steel-Emerald you still have a pretty good pool of contracts to utilize.
>>144052399
Mages usualy are older than the rest of the party members when they start the game.
As the player designs their character and the back story it is often something along the line of having studied for years or decades at a prestigous school.
>>144057608
>There used to be so many Balrog that you can make an army out of them
>muh fight Balrog to the death
He is literally a red shirt
>>144057145
Difficulty for goblins doesn't match up to rating in this universe. They pay less than the effort and danger for an equivalent.
Goblin quests have awful pay in universe which is why so in order for a job with awful pay to result in chainmail you'd need for chainmail to be cheap.
>>144057363
Sneks son, the immediate predator of rats.
>>144057769
The quest is probably for group of Steel rank. They can reliably clear the quest a couple times and buy better gear. Armor is probably still expensive as fuck
>>144057608
The answer still applies anon, Gandalf and his companions were not mercenaries, they weren't getting paid by a guild or anything. They had nobler goals. So tell me, why would a mercenary ever helped weaker mercenaries if not for a financial incentive? The only reason why goblin slayer took on that girl was likely because she had her uses.
>t-the guild should limit quests to the adventurer's rank
One should be given the rights to take jobs they are well aware they are capable of.
If a porcelain slayed a dragon, he was a prodigy.
If a porcelain took the same quest and died, he was an idiot.
>>144058041
>The only reason why goblin slayer took on that girl was likely because she had her uses.
Actually Anon.
Goblin Slayer knows the head of the Temple the Priestess is from. He would be a dick to let the Priestess die
>>144057241
Copied from the archive.
>It's explained in Chapter 3 that veterans don't take on goblin jobs due to bad pay, so the guild can only send in newbies. It doesn't matter if the first batch of adventurers get wiped out, the ones after them will get the job done eventually. The people running the country don't care since the jobs get finished and they have more pressing issues like demons and chaotic forces to deal with.
>According to Guild Girl, the worst thing that could happen sending newbies to hunt goblins is not them dying, but an entire village getting wiped out. She feels sick in the stomach thinking about every time someone comes requesting for goblin hunts, since it's either sending a group of newbies to their deaths or a village being destroyed. She always tries to inform them of the dangers and recommend other jobs like hunting mice in the sewers (it's in the manual too), but a lot of newbies aren't satisfied with that kind of "adventure". Experienced adventurers prefer hunting monsters in the mountains. The ones who go on hunting goblins are practically all starry-eyed newbies and a handful of experienced adventurers. Very few of them return from those quests. The guild's biggest concern is that they can't really raise any mid-class adventurer.
>It's also stated that adventurers are entirely responsible for themselves.
>>144058041
>The answer still applies anon
You're answering a question nobody asked. It was about when you see clearly OP people with non OP people. That is all.
>The only reason why goblin slayer took on that girl was likely because she had her uses.
Gee guess that Monk didn't have uses either. Or that Mage. Everyone in that party had uses.
>>144058217
>but a lot of newbies aren't satisfied with that kind of "adventure"
Fuck these faggots. You're hunting rats in the sewers until I'm sure you're not retarded.
>>144058444
>Gee guess that Monk didn't have uses either. Or that Mage. Everyone in that party had uses.
monk was raped and mindbroken.
Mage was on death door.
Swordsman was mutilated
>>144058444
>party literally died because of an overconfident retard
That's why you send specialists for jobs like these
>>144058530
Point is all those newbies had uses. Cleric was honestly the second to last most useful of the lot (fighter is too retarded to help anyone).
>>144058444
>>144058530
>>144058536
the party would have been fine if they had done at least one of the following:
1. waited for an experienced guy to escort them and teach them
2. done research into goblin nests and how they're structured, what they tend to do
3. stuck together in a tight formation so they don't get separated and annihilated individually
4. checked carefully as they walked through the cave at a steady pace so they don't get ambushed
5. trained together or at least went on a trial run on an easier quest so the group can familiarize themselves their teammates
6. not attempted what is a fairly difficult quest with a group of five starry-eyed greenhorns
These guys made so many mistakes it's hard to blame the guild. These guys would have gotten themselves killed in one way or the other even if they weren't going for a guild reward
>>144058444
Anon why would anybody ask "when you clearly OP people with non OP people"? Comon, let's not be silly here. Don't you think that only a retarded person would ask something like that? People have to be sure of the context, before they comment. Obviously that anon was asking, surely the guild would have someone like Gandalf, who would take care of lesser adventurers and teach them the rope. Of course, there would be no person like Gandalf, because gandalf is a wizard, not a common mercenary.
>>144058715
>not attempted what is a fairly difficult quest with a group of five starry-eyed greenhorns
You forgot to mention to heed the warning of both the clerk and the priestess
>>144058774
>Anon why would anybody ask "when you clearly OP people with non OP people"?
>>144056813
>How many times you see a lvl100 run with a bunch of lvl 1 noobs?
Stopped reading after that.
>>144058864
>I meant have people like Goblin Slayer accompany newbies on lower ranked missions. No reason to send newbies into even more danger by having them try and take down a balrog? Just place an incentive on training positions and let the guys with the time to do it handle it.
>How many times you see a lvl100 run with a bunch of lvl 1 noobs?
>Lord of the Rings and most western fantasy have clearly OP guys travel with people not on their level.
>>144057420
Here's the context
>>144059133
thing is, that literally would have happened if the newbie party waited like literally 15 minutes, the goblin slayer went in right after they did
>>144059321
I think you are replying to the wrong comment bud.
