I think it's pretty faithful for the most part.
>>143884613
Well, sure its painful to read, like the manga, but in a complete different meaning
Too bad everyone's gonna be complaining about the rape horse next week
>>143884950
I thought for sure it was going to be this episode but maybe we can get the sacrificial orgy scene.never
I think it was much better done this week. I'm sure people still hate it but, I enjoyed this episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3kpzmylhg
its dangalang time
>>143884613
Berserk is pretty fun, but nothing can save how awful that animation looks
WHERE IS MOTH GIRL!
>>143884613
This episode wasn't nearly as bad as the first, but that ep 3 preview fucking terrifies me
>>143886033
They scrapped the entire Lost Children arc.
Too much loli T and V I guess
Feels like someone slapped a sketchy filter over a cutscene from a late 90's PC game.
>>143886203
It's like why isn't this show just motion captured and 60fps at this point?
How do you like your breasts senpai?
Why was Guts so tired? He needs to step it up.
>>143885712
Is this what berserkposters consider a quality memeing?
>>143886313
Im making a better one now.
>>143886276
Gravity doesn't work on boobs in Gut's world
>>143884950
>rape horse next week
>>143886192
shame really I would have no problem with them skipping the eclipse but fuck, lets see guts rekt some shit
>>143885096
>all those CGI bodies writhing en masse
the horror. the horror.
Really looking dignified there
>>143886400
>implying her tits aren't firm from all the training
>>143884950
But episode 3 is an original episode.
>>143886104
What did the preview show again?
>>143885712
What the fuck, I don't remember her screaming being that loud, did you edit that?
Since it's CGI, does that mean they can just uncheck the "invisible nipples" button in the settings for the BDs?
This is Sailor Moon tier
>>143887477
Stuff that never happened in the manga for starters
https://youtu.be/ot-xPjuXYwo?t=1445
She can't see elves what does that mean?
>>143887930
She doesn't believe in Santa.
And also Puck is one fairy-ass Elf.
>>143886671
Meant to say lack of
The music was actually pretty good this episode. It actually fit the Berserk style a little.
Also it's by the guy who did fucking NGE's OST.
http://myanimelist.net/people/5147/Sagisu_Shiro
>>143887696
So the first episode was rushed and they're skipping shit so they can shove in their own fan fiction?
>>143886192
>>143884950
so, if they cut out the part with all the loli death, and theyre gonna cut the part with the demon bestiality, i think its safe to say theyre gonna cut the legendary troll rape cave, too?
i want off this not so crazy ride, right now
>>143888249
I predict that they're going to avoid showing the rape horse and just traumatize Farnese through other means, hence ep3 is going to have anime original scenes. The episode title is still "Night of Miracles", after all.
>>143885712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUMLwN5z0mI
It's done.
anyone else think grif VA was shit?
Can you help me to remember Puck's face?
>>143888249
Nah, they just want to give fans different stories. Why just rehash the manga when you can do something else? If you want the manga just read the manga.
>>143888683
I'm used to English Griffith but yeah, he didn't sound right at all.
>faithful
>next episode they're already removing content because the hack author regrets his manga's edgy past
uh huh
>>143888948
If I wanted new stories I'd go watch a new show.
>>143889134
how did he come up with a rapist horse
>>143889240
Tales of women having sex with horses and horse like animals goes back 1000s of years.
>>143889150
But that is like watching DB and only wanting to rehash the freza saga
>>143889399
You saying people didn't like Dragonball Z because it rehashed the freza saga from the manga?
>>143886507
>amazon
>not amazan
You were so close too, anon.
>>143889334
Mortalcombat!
>>143888135
He did the movies too, didn't he?
Nothing more hype than HAAAAI YOO
>>143886276
As an artist I'd say they would be normal looking with nips but it's all rounded
Honestly, I am excited for the next episode, mostly because it's going to be written by Miura, and I want to see how he handles a less lighthearted segment nowadays.
I mean, if the script is good, it will heighten my hopes for the manga's future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3kpzmylhg
>>143889535
https://youtu.be/LhEzb-FCFnk?t=16
Ohhh yeaahhhh......
>>143889707
>that smug fucking look
The 2d close-ups look great imo, I wish they'd do all the talking scenes like that, how hard would that be?
>>143889828
Superior version
https://youtu.be/BUMLwN5z0mI
>>143888335
You really think they are going to show this on TV?
Don't be dumb now, anon. If anything hope for a BD scene but that depends on how much additional budget they are willing to spend on them.
>>143889880HBO Adaptation?
>>143884950
Too bad it'll be cut
>>143888249
Apparently next episode is an original story written by Muira, so hopefully it'll be good
>>143890122
Oh! She actually did hit him with her sword. The animation led me to think he coincidentally ran out of energy and fell down before she actually hit him.
>>143884613
Pretty much agreed. The dialogue for the most part reassured me that they want to stick to the character drama of berserk with how Guts was picking apart Farnese and Azan, which is obviously good.
Looks like they're going to make the next episode take place in some abandoned castle or something rather than outside. A change of scenery won't affect much, just hopefully it's nothing more than that.
Also it'd be nice if they have nipples in blu ray, because it just looks ridiculous.
>>143889399
He's not talking about skipping the golden age. He's (I assume) talking about Lost Children and parts of Black Swordsman, neither of which have been animated before.
>>143887696
Logs confirmed OP, this explains Naruto's obsession with the subject.
>>143890238
This one isn't fair. One is a panel and the other is literally 1 frame. You can barely see anything during this punch, it happens in a split second.
n
>>143890198
they made Guts look too old
>>143890315
They should've ctrl+c, ctrl+v'd some more soldiers.
>>143890356
>>143890284
>>143890401
>>143890238
>>143890198
>>143890082
>>143890037
These are all fine.
>>143890122
>>143890315
These are unfortunate.
>>143890401
God damn it these scenes should atleast be 2D sakuga.
I'm glad Farnese's VA was good, she really sold the crazy.
>>143887696
Is that the apostle that tracks down Guts and Casca after Guts wakes up?
Can this show do fucking anything right?
>>143890265
Wait is it going to be that thing with the twins from the ps2 game?
>>143890490
It could be in a flashback? If they're skipping the actual scenes, they need to remind anime only fags what an apostle is so it makes sense to bring one in from the manga rather than making an OC one. If they're doing that, I hope they don't randomly drop Rosine in later though, might fuck our chances of a decent Lost Children OVA at some point.
>>143890450
wow that guts guy must be a complete fucking wimp to be tired already
>>143890435
>these are all fine
Good to see you again, brother rabbit.
>>143890385
too much rendering for the potato pcs these nippons use
Better than the first episode? Yes or no?
>>143890871
Follows the manga more closely
Still full retard CGSHIT faces everywhere
And preview for episode 3 seems to have things going completely off the rails
Expect absolutely no rape horse or sword riding
>>143890871
Yeah, I wished they'd found some way to explain Guts being injured though.
>>143890778
Comparing frames of animation to manga panels is retarded.
>>143890871
Yes, pretty much picking up with the manga instead of mishmashing stuff together, so it's just better by default.
No idea what they're going to do with the 3rd episode though.
>>143890950
Virtually every single non cgi anime out there that is an adaptation of a manga lives and breathes by hitting the key panels from the original work.
If it can't do even that right, it isn't even a slideshow adaptation, it's a fucking abomination.
>>143890937
He fought that huge tree thing in the previous episode. He didn't act like he was too injured by it, but that's the only possible explanation.
>>143885712
hahahahaha, the CLANG
might wait on the BD version for this one boys. tho the threads are just too fun
>>143888739
Okay I'm new on the OC market, give me tips on how to improve please
>>143891492
hmmm looks fine to me anon?
>>143886203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgGxCZvHTpc you mean something like this?
>>143891583
Thanks anon
>>143890315
>>143890238
That's some damn good anime
>>143888739
No one tried the rabbit?
>>143890435
>anything about that
>fine
>>143892401
>that outtake
Ohhhhh shiiiiiiiiiiiit
>>143885712
10/10
>Fucking wait years for a proper Berserk anime adaptation
>Get this shity low budget CGI fuckfest instead
Why is life so hard?
Did i ask for too much?
>>143891492
Step 1: use actual templates instead of shitty cropped images
Step 2: use actual programs (gimp is enough) instead of microsoft paint
That would be pretty much it.
>>143892401
>black animes matter
Does anyone have that MSpaint comic of the two guys eating shit and one guy walks by and asks why they're eating shit, and the two guys get mad and defend why they're eating shit?
>>143885712
The last one made me lose my shit
>>143892667
>>143892380
gotchu senpai
>>143892573
Life is nothing but pain
>>143892777
checked
its beautiful
>>143892777
I'm laughing but the tears won't stop
>>143892946
That's some good delet this material, saved.
Anyone else wish they'd done better with the opening? This is pretty much a paint by numbers anime opening in both music and visuals. Pen pals was weird, but it was wholly unique.
>>143893196
I think the opening is nice. The stills looks pretty good to me, the music is decent. Nothing special, but considering how shit is the show, it stands out as good.
>>143893196
The OP and ED for the 97 series were both just ridiculously laughable, to the point where seeing that OP during the eclipse episodes was just so jarringly out of context it was cringe inducing.
At least the OP in this one has a pretty good tune with some cool riffs. The ED I don't understand as much, and I'd agree is pretty typical for modern anime. The moon and the cross animations remind me vaguely of eva's ED, for what that's worth.
>>143886507
would you be mind blown if this came out in 2006?
The cg was horrible but the ep still ended before I knew it.
>>143893524
>put your grasses on, nothing will be wong
they forgot the nipples
>>143894171
>gravity defying boobs
>>143894171
Look they're right here, under the Blu-rays.
>>143894171
>>143894226
Bad cg aside, they really did a pretty good job making Farnese pretty qt.
will they really put the nipples back in the BD or is that just a meme?
>>143893839
baka desu
>>143892982
my favorite. :D
>>143884613
Don't you guys get it? We must also suffer.
Just like guts. That's why we will never get a properly animated black swordsman arc.
>>143894171
>Implying you won't buy the blue rays
>>143894290
No idea, would be cool if they did though.
>>143894226
>Implying there is a problem with perky
>>143884613
except for the visual quality, which is not quite unimportant to a visual medium
>>143885712
holy fuck I can't breathe
The 97 anime had nipples, so what's the deal, they can't do that on television anymore?
>>143884613
At least the they got this scene right
>>143885712
CLANG
>>143885712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyifU8Dp0ik
>>143894473
SJWs exist and you think anything got better with time?
>>143894473
people got to sensitive and are much more outspoken now, specifically on the internet.
>>143888135
Tried to rip some of the new soundtracks and made a compilation here
>https://soundcloud.com/nm-16/berserk-2016-selection-of-new-songs-ep12
>>143894473
'97 Berserk was also relegated to airing at 1:30 in the morning because it was so violent.
Around 2000, Jap censors did start cracking down on nipples on TV, but it was mostly animators keeping them off by choice since new digital mastering techniques meant they could amend the show later and only show nipples to encourage DVD(now BD) sales.
>>143890927
>ep 2 - the ep where guts gets taken about by a bunch of wimp ass soldiers for no reason
>Follows the manga more closely
fuck right off retard
>>143892573
>tfw you realize the reason why they use awful cgi shit is because they wasted all their budget on stills
Should I read the manga or is it being good just a meme?
>>143895657
It's one of the best manga ever written you faggot
What the fuck is up with the sound and music in this? It's worse than the fucking 3D.
>>143895657
You're in a Berserk thread you fucking idiot retard. The fuck do you think we're gonna say.
>>143895657
You shouldn't even need to ask--did you like the anime? Did you want to see what else happens? Are you interested in the story? Would you like the authentic version with hand-drawn art?
If you haven't seen the anime, then why not? It's only 25 episodes.
If you literally know nothing then just read the first volumes, at least 3, because there's a big difference between "Black Swordsman" Berserk and early Berserk--the best part is the leadup.
>>143895657
Not a meme, it's actually good, even if the main haracter is a little edgy.
People are mostly angry because in the years upon years Berserk has been around and popular, it hasn't gotten a single good adaptation
>>143884613
Loved this episode, nice to see Serpico around too.
I fucking hate Farnese though, same with Schierke. Muh Guts harem is garbage.
This is the best part of the episode
>>143895960
Just a yes or no would suffice, autistic weeb.
>>143896197
Indeed, fabulous.
>>143892777
glorious trips for a wondrous puck
Going from this nice looking scene to the 3dcg really is a slap in the testicles.
>show liberally uses Blood and Guts
God just kill me now.
>>143895657
Motherfucker dont even bait about shit like that
>>143895974
Guts has every reason in the world to be edgy.
Actually, it would be weird if he wasn't considering all the shit he's been through.
>>143896470
The song? I liked that one though.
>>143896670
Yeah, I think it's justified, but I think it can be off-putting to new members of the series.
Berserk is never going to get a decent adaptation that does the manga art justice.
The hell happened /a/?
>>143896444
>all the scenes before the Eclipse are 2D
Did Griffith sacrifice it alongside the Band of the Hawk?
>>143896940
She got censored.
Can't show nipples, can't show dicks, can't show brown skin. Too erotic.
>>143896950
DEEPEST LORE
>>143896069
>Loved this episode
kill yourself
>>143896950
>more reasons to hate Griffith
I'll take this as canon now.
>>143896950
Griffith sacrificed them not only to ascend to demonhood, he ascended the fucking dimension
>>143896069
Farnese is one of the most interesting characters. Fuck Schierke though.
>>143896950
GRRIIIFFFIIIIITH.
>>143896470
>>143896677
Nevermind, I assumed you had misspelled 'literally' somehow I forgot the definition of 'liberally' I get what you mean, and I'm disappointed now too, I had the volume low enough that I didn't hear it before.
>>143896950
You see, the terrible cg is intended.
It's all a metaphor for everything going to shit.
WHAT
THE
FUCK
IS
THIS
HORSESHIT
QUALITY?
WHY WOULD THEY USE THIS FUCKING DISGUSTING 3D SHIT IF THEY WON'T EVEN MAKE IT ON PAR WITH THE OVAS?
I HAVE SEEN PS2 GAMES WITH BETTER ANIMATION AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS
>>143897197
the berserk ps2 game DOES have better animation
I forgot Griffith cucked this guy too
>>143896940
BLEACHED
>>143897275
judeau was always my nigga. his death was the saddest out of all the other hawks. he was too good for the shitty future that was to come anyway
>>143897197
I MEANT TO POST THIS
>>143897197
Imagine being Arnold in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Jamie Curtis, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck another 16 year old in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Arnold and not only sit in that chair while Jamie Lee Curtis flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, JAMIE LEE CURTIS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and supermodels and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Austria. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Arnold. You're not going to lose your future political career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
>>143896940
Maybe brown CG Casca would look so ugly, so they change her skin color
>>143897197
Why do you write like that? Why are you posting 3DPD?
You don't belong here
>>143896950
LOOK AT THIS
>>143897630
So this is where all the budget went. The studio is just full of filthy Griffithfags
>being a Berserk fan for decades
> not even caring to complain anymore
>>143897714
>he studio is just full of filthy Griffithfags
He so pretty, you can't help it.
>>143897630
shit, he really did make a mountain of corpses, like in his vision during the eclipse
guts looked prettygood in that scene too, but not as good as griffith
>>143884613
>Hirasawa playing when Guts escapes
Not a godawful abortion like the last episode but it still looks like ass
>>143896940
Pre-Eclipse Casca is my dream woman. To see her turned into a white instead of a Delicious brown is one of the things that pisses me off the worse
Am I the only one that love this crazy bitch?
>>143897948
no, her brother is into her too
Next episode:Rape horse scene is censored so you don't see his dick and it looks like he's going to bite Farnese's head instead.
>>143897948
She's not so crazy anymore.Maybe.
>>143897937
10/10
>>143897948
Not at all. I want her to burn me to death
>>143897984
I hope there won't be any rape horse. It's such a small part of the manga and yet you morons talk about it in every Berserk thread.
>>143897520
http://vocaroo.com/i/s15VJ0fshMiI
I saved this
literally years ago
>>143897948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZm1im2erU
>>143897978
well all brothers should love their sister, no matter how crazy their sister is
>>143898066
Gotta admit the whole "LOL OMG RAEP HORSE XD" garbage in every thread makes me embarrassed to be a Berserk fan.
>>143888739
I don't know what I was even trying to do.
>>143889880
im fine with them not showing that particular scene, but i really hope they dont skip that part entirely or change it a lot.
a bunch of shit happens - skull knight shows up, guts fights slan in qlipoth, farnese protects casca and finds new purpose, isidro does stuff for the first time, shierke summons some shit, and then this
>>143898066
>>143898133
to be fair it is a pretty important part of her character development. The culmination of the madness she's descending into, something incredibly creepy, nasty and off-putting. If they skip it they still need a some kind of a climax for her experience
Why they didnt include that? This scene is cute
>>143896444
>those horrid contrast levels
>those muddy colors
And that one lying faggot kept trying to say the '97 anime had bad color.
What a schmuck.
>>143897630
The whole fucking show should be animated like this. Jesus.
>>143897630
Imagine if this was done by ufotable.
>>143897806
the worst thing about the new show is that it splices horrible CG characters in with actually cool looking scenes like this. it reminds you what you could have had
>>143898269
>gutting 70% of the manga and reconning characters and enemies entirely
>why did they cut rare and important interactions that build Guts and Puck as individuals?
>>143896940
Japs can't handle the brown.
>>143898305
The contrast is so high because they are literally white washing casca for insanely retarded reason. Even the OVAs had her distinctively cocoa skinned.
>>143898259
I don't think the rape horse is necessary, demon dogs and Farnese getting possessed by the spirit should be enough for her character development.
They will probably change it a bit though.
>>143898259
oh i agree, i mean, a horse being possessed by a demon and trying to rape you is seriously horrifying. but i... just don't really see what's funny about it i guess? i suppose it's absurd, but it's not really more absurd than anything else in the manga. i get the feeling like the whole meme was started by the edgy 18 year olds who read it and are like "lol rape" which is gross and just alienates people from wanting to read it.
>>143886203
is this a vaporwave gif?
put some purple ligth and a old TV aesthetic
>>143885712
Clang.
>>143898389
Prep the third nuke
>>143898391
I'm not just talking Casca's face that's whiter than Guts' sword. Look at Guts' arms. The parts that are in the light are full on glowing, but the parts that are in shadow are near full black.
They both just look like muddled messes with neon highlights.
>>143898347
Get out
>>143888739
BUY GEIMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43WgTJGjU98
Just a reminder that Berserk will never get this level of attention and budget, ever.Why Gantz anyway
>>143896940
remember the king of pop?
>>143898639
>live action Berserk
Cannot be done.
>>143898663
So Casca's going to lead Isidro to her private ranch to engage in some /ss/?
>>143898687
That's not live action
>>143898626
MY FUCKING SIDES
>>143897948
She's best girl
>>143898358
If they cut an entire arc doesnt mean they have to tighten the one they follow. I'd rather to see this scene instead of Guts sneaking in shitty animations.
>>143898269
Probably because this is episode 2 and it makes no sense story wise(in this confusing mess they made) that they should interact like that.
Reminder that FF7: Advent Children came out 11 years ago.
CGI in anime isn't getting any better with technology, they're just using technology to find cheaper ways to replace drawings with shitty no-effort CGI.
>>143898444
I honestly don't think it's necessary, but in the manga the rape horse looming over farnese also set guts into a berserker rage
It reminded him of what Griffith did to casca, a beast about to rape a helpless woman
>>143892777
>checked
could this be more perfect?
Meanwhile in other thread:
>>143875223
>>143881309
>>143888033
>Now Urobuchi's puppets are healing our poor souls.
>>143898639
Is that Kato? Are they changing how he died from getting hit with a train with Kei?
Or is this the backstory of Edgy McEdgerton who put on the black face and shot up Shinjuku?
>>143896940
That is the worst thing about the new anime.
Getting ready to start this episode. I'm seriously gonna drink a shot of vodka every time I hear a CLANK.
How fucked am I?
>>143899863
You're shoenice tier anon
Back out while you still can.
>>143899863
At least you won't have to endure the second half.
>>143899904
>>143899940
I just hit about a minute and a half and there was already a clank before the starting credits.
What have I done.
Sorry casual-fag here. Wtf, is this all CG?
>>143884613
Remember Gatson? He was a bro.
>>143897948
Farnese is, no kidding, probably my favorite character in any anime ever. It's been so long since I started reading berserk that I can't even remember if I liked her at first or not, but after knowing her story arc up to this point I just love her, I feel warm just seeing her, even in shitty cg.
>>143899459
>Butchershits get a new show and it looks amazing
>Berserk gets this dogshit
Why are all the flashback scenes in good 2D animation and everything else is in 3D CGI rape horseshit? Why the FUCK couldn't they just have done the show in 2D. Even if the animation was sub par it would still be lightyears ahead of this utter FUCKING MONSTROSITY.
>>143900566
Because God exists and he wants us to suffer
>>143900566
To reminds us of what a good Berserk anime would look like. Instead we get a half-assed CG shit fest. Dropping this show after this ep. Fuck it all.
>>143900781See you next week.
>>143895974
Is there any particular reason why adaptations have been so few and shit? Especially since Berserk is still running, it seems odd
>>143897948
>tfw this scene took me by surprise
I GOT SCARED BY FUCKING CGI
>Griffith's rebirth and their meeting on the Hill of Swords is entirely in 2D
>Griffith is the only chance we have for quality 2D
NOT LIKE THIS.
>>143891102
This I'm not even into anime and manga but reading berserk was fantastic I then watched the 90's anime and saw these new episodes and goddammit its almost a completely different
Wheres muh gore!
Don't cop out i want horrible rape, nudity, detailed monsters, fluent fight animation and GORE!
RAGE AND GORE!
That's the whole fucking point the manga.
>>143897948
Shit character, hated every panel she was in.
>>143898977
your picture is not relevant. not anime.
>>143902630
>animated movie made by Japs isn't anime
OK.
>>143902709
Are you retarded or just pretending?
By "anime" I obviously mean the particular 2D style, not the general umbrella term "animation". It's like comparing pixar movies with the lion king.
>>143898269
At least they had "sorry, horse"
>>143902808
Are you retarded?
You didn't qualify any of that. Just shatpost "not animu!" like a typical 12 year old trying to defend the horrid state of CGI in this abomination of a show.
>>143902808
>By "anime" I obviously mean the particular 2D style, not the general umbrella term "animation". It's like comparing pixar movies with the lion king.
Then we should ban 3DCG shows too. Because they're just 3DCG models (read: virtual puppets) being moved across the screen.
>>143902850
Then you're comparing semi-realistic CGI to CGI aiming for 2D style. Which is a stupid thing to do.
Again, your pic is not relevant.
>>143902887
Not my pic and CGI aiming to be 2D should be a fuck ton easier to do than aiming for near-photo realism.
Even on a TV series budget 11 after Japan proved its capable of executing CGI at a greater than Toy Story level.
So go ahead and pretend like it's not "relevant," when you're the one who has to show up an hour and a half later and try to defend this shitpile of a show from it.
>>143900381
It's all secondary to the manga anyways.
>>143902808
So Berserk isn't anime then? It's pretty obviously 3D models with a shitty filter over it.
>>143902886
Did you miss the style part? You know, toon shaders for example.
>>143902983
>Not my pic
then why are you defending retards that make irrelevant arguments?
>2D should be a fuck ton easier to do than aiming for near-photo realism.
ignorance much? photorealism has years of development and physics simulation baked into the pipeline. Before it was used for TV/movies it was already in use in the industry to get realistic mockups. The whole shit has always targeted realism.
Tacking on the things needed for toon style is a relatively new and niche field, thus the tools are inferior (which generally means more difficult to use) and the know-how is limited. Anime is violating physics, thus anything geared towards physically realistic rendering will experience some friction when you try to use it.
>>143903103
Depending on which definition you want to use the answers are
>No
>It tries to be
>Yes
>>143898977
Loved this movie. Hyped as fuck for Final Fantasy XV: Kingsglaive as well. Good taste senpatchi.
>>143890385
soldiers are fine the problem is the godawful floor, even minecraft looks better
>>143890347
nigga look like he walked in on moms sucking dick
>>143885712Is there a YouTube playlist of these yet?
>>143903139
>then why are you defending retards that make irrelevant arguments?
You're the only one making a retarded argument.
>Tacking on the things needed for toon style is a relatively new and niche field, thus the tools are inferior (which generally means more difficult to use) and the know-how is limited. Anime is violating physics, thus anything geared towards physically realistic rendering will experience some friction when you try to use it.
Cel-shaded 3D-models is literally nothing new and takes even less time since there's less to render.
Christ you're really pathetic. Reaching this far to defend this shit show.
You know literally nothing about animation. Just stop.
>>143903291
>Reaching this far to defend this shit show.
What? Where's your reading comprehension? I never claimed berserk was well-animated. All i'm saying is that comparing it to FF is stupid due to the technical differences.
>>143886033
Why did the 90s have such great contrast and great colors?
Digital shading and coloring looks like absolute shit in comparison.
>>143903139
>shitty toon filters make it anime
Look guys I made an anime.
Me in the middle
>>143903378
>toon shaders FOR EXAMPLE
>>143903340
You were saying "not anime," now you're moving the goalposts when everyone is pointing out what a retard you are.
Is it fair to compare a movie, even one over a decade old, to a TV show? No. But that was never part of your initial premise.
And there is no point trying to bring up the technicalities.
This Berserk takes far less work and obviously far less effort to achieve its hideous results.
>>143903380
Me on the right. Prepare to get socked in the nose.
>>143903409
>moving the goalposts
>>143903409
>toonshaders count as an example
>no no, they're an EXAMPLE
I don't understand you.
>>143903380
Why you so tense bruh?
>>143903449
not at all.
>>143903139
>toon shaders for example.
>>143903378
>shitty toon filters make it anime
If you're claiming that those have the same meaning then you're beyond saving.
>>143903485
He doesn't understand himself and is too autistic to admit he doesn't know he's wrong.
Best to just ignore the idiot now.
>>143903485
Having an example means that there is a larger set of things to choose the example from.
>>143903494
Then give us your exact definition of an anime, so that we can tell you how full of shit it is.
>>143902630
http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/02/25/nycc-07-american-anime-award-winners-revealed
Guess which film won the award?
But deranged shitposter on the internet says something so it must be true.
What could have been. Too bad it's just stills and pans with moving mouths.
>>143903586
So like the 90s anime?
>>143903586
At least the old anime's stills and pans looked good.
>>143903564
UTTERLY BTFO
Nice one anon.
Guts looks way older than he should be.
I think they're probably going to get to the berserker armor since he looks the way he'd look in that part. It wouldn't surprise me if they were too lazy to make another model even for his face/hair
>>143898687
>live action Berserk
>live action
>live
>action
are you retarded?
>>143903540
I don't have one. Why do you expect me to have one? You should know that words have multiple meanings and definitions and there are things that don't neatly fit into categories. Is who framed roger rabbit a live action film or a cartoon? Is the butcher's new puppet show anime? Is manga produced by foreigners still manga?
Would you still call it anime if something is just 100% photorealistic? How would it be different from live-action?
If Guts was a bear it'd be called Bearserk.
>>143903626
Were they channeling Dezaki? I get severe Berubara vibes from this
>>143903726
>words have multiple meanings and definitions and there are things that don't neatly fit into categories.
But you're the one trying to say what is and isn't anime you fucking bellend.
>>143903731
But... the Ber in Berserk already means Bear.
>>143903735
Hey, if you're forced to make a show on the cheap using lots of stills, you may as well channel one of the best.
>>143903803
If that were true, then why isn't he a bear?
>>143903842
Ya got me.
>>143884613
I thought /a/ was anime and manga, but you guys want to destroy anime.
What the fuck is this >>143885712
Seriously, you guys are shit.
>>143903726
Just stop... it's a cringeworthy trainwreck at this point. You've revealed yourself to be the delusional autist you are.
>>143903773
No, i was using "anime" as shorthand for something i don't have a precise term for. Let's call it "that japanese animation style with mostly flat shading, outlines, simplified hair features and a bunch of other shit". Got a better name for it? If a japanese artist created a sequence of oil paintings and turned them into a moving picture then I would also have said "not anime" in the context of this discussion.
Maybe the brevity of my statement should have been a hint that i wasn't using the most precise wording?
>>143903887
>I thought /a/ was anime and manga
No, /a/ is an image board dedicated to the discussion of anime and manga.
>>143903921
Anime is Japanese animation, regardless of what is used to create the animation. Anime is not a style. RWBY is not an anime.
>>143903972
>all that animation spent on Griffith's hair
>not a single hair on Guts' head moves in the wind
>>143903921
You really want to know what we think? That you've got severe mental issues.
>>143895657
the cgi was so bad, any manga you read would be pretty much 100% better
>>143904012
That's a useless category. A photorealistic model of a car by toyota used as design study is anime, while the same fucking animation done by ford is not.
>>143904070
>A photorealistic model of a car by toyota used as design study is anime, while the same fucking animation done by ford is not.
Yes, exactly. Because the one by Ford was not made in Japan by Japanese people.
>>143904070
Christ what an autist.
>>143897948
replacing the old best girl with new best girl,
blond white > black casca
>>143904070
>>143904121
Also a car model is not an animated TV show and/or movie.
>>143903972
Griffith didn't get that armor until after the timeskip.
>>143903921
>If a japanese artist created a sequence of oil paintings and turned them into a moving picture then I would also have said "not anime" in the context of this discussion
Halo: Legends confirmed for not anime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgkFjAxmWbM
>>143903933
>dedicated to the discussion
>discussion
Not in this thread
>>143904175
>>143903972
>1997
>2016
>quality faces never change
>>143904121
So you're saying the origin is all that matters? We're only here because we care about the origin of the animation and none of the qualities that are usually associated with it?
To me animation made in japan is just correlated with certain qualities that im become accustomed to. I acknowledge that in practice the origin has a huge impact on the end product, but in the end we appreciate the final product, not its origin.
In the end it's just an arbitrary designation considering that studios often outsource entire episodes to the philippines for example. Does it stop being anime then? Or do you retreat to the point that it does not have to be made by japanese people, just commissioned by them?
>>143904227
'97 had the excuse that they were drawing on little animation cels. Can't really zoom in on physical media.
Digital animators could zoom in their program as much as they want and add detail like this shot and then zoom away for the larger shot.
Not near as much excuse other than laziness.
>>143904387
Just fuck off already you autistic little twat.
No one gives a fuck what you think.
>>143904433
>resorting to ad hominems
Out of arguments, huh?
>>143904512
ANIME JANAI
>>143904387
>studios often outsource entire episodes to the philippines
I guess you have a point there.
>>143904512
>I'm not going to tell you
That's not what I said. I'm just saying that I don't have a single definition that would encompass all possible uses.
For the purpose of this discussion I gave a rough one in >>143903921
>>143904481
Just letting you know that >>143904433 isn't me (>>143904121 >>143904012)
>>143904561
American-produced cartoons of the 80s and 90s were outsourced to Japan all the time. Does that make Thundercats and Animaniacs anime?
>>143904592
No worries. I'm just firing back at arguments, doesn't really matter who they are from.
Farnese a cute.
>>143903356
And now you know when anime started to become absolute shit.
>>143904620
Yes.
>>143904571
i'm just reading this thread now, and i have to say, you are insufferable
>>143904680
They made her look cute, she has man jaw in the manga.
Actually I think her and Caska designs were changed either because director is a moebuta, or to show anime-only crowd that "we have cute girls".
>>143904620
No.
>>143904571
>"that japanese animation style with mostly flat shading, outlines, simplified hair features and a bunch of other shit"
Despite your dislike of defining by country of origin, other than the word "Japanese" this definition also completely applies to 90% of American cartoons.
>>143904620
Maybe
>>143904620
I don't know.
>>143904620
> Does that make Thundercats and Animaniacs anime?
Hell yeah they do, nigga. Same as the animated Hobbit.
My mom and dad are in their 50s. If I asked them what this is they would say "anime."
>>143904773
Exactly. Have you seen Johnny Test's hair? He fits right in with our favorite anime characters with gravity-defying hair.
>tfw your wanna be anime but your hair isn't simple enough
>>143888335
>troll rape cave
The one with the goatguy?
You're aware that japs themselves call western animation "anime", right
Anime being only japanese produced is a western concept to separate the two
>>143904884
Harlock knows that feel.
>>143904915
Nope, sorry. Doesn't matter that it's based on a highly successful anime series, based on a manga by a legendary mangaka, produced by a team comprised largely of anime industry veterans. Not anime. I mean, look at that hair.
>>143904901
Considering almost all of us are Westerners, I don't really see where you're going with that.
>>143904995
This dispute is pointless
>>143904900
no, its a cave filled with trolls who rape women who explode into more trolls ala "birth"
>>143904773
You are correct there. The issue is that if an american company made somethinig that's close enough to what I generally consider animie I would be willing to call it anime. Or to make concessions I could call it "almost anime", "american-made anime" or whatever would settle the argument.
The problem is that the whole hodgepodge of things we associate with anime also involves some cultural aspects, storytelling conventions and so on. So it is much easier to say "made in japan", because it generally has the qualities I want.
But then taking that simplification and distorting it into the rule that everything animated in japan is anime basically perverts the intent of identifying entertainment with desirable properties.
It gets even more complicated if we take dubs into account. Most of /a/ also considers japanese voice acting as part of the product and that is one aspect that does indeed directly tie into the origin. And yet it does not cease to be anime once it's dubbed.
>>143905038
Not really. That they don't have a specific word to differentiate the two styles does not mean that there isn't a difference. The argument would have been the same even if he said "Japanimation."
>>143905050
My mind is completely blank, is it during the conviction arc?
>>143904898
Doesn't exist.
>>143905061
See this is partially the problem with your argument, is that you chose Advent Children, a film with writing and attitude that's painfully, terrifyingly, stereotypically anime.
Also take a look at that movie and tell me that shit's in any way photorealistic. It is definitively trying to replicate anime techniques and designs in its CG animation. It's just a CG anime that puts more detail than normal.
>>143896940
Japans answer to Hollywood "white washing"?
>>143905336
"Really, motherfuckers? Scarlett Johansson? Well we got a white Casca, fuck you."
>>143905085
if we accept that anime means any form of animation made in japan and also encompasses puppets, photorealistic CGI and zeotropes then "cartoon anime" would be a more specific choice.
>>143905256
You're not wrong there. Saying "not anime" was a too broad. What was obvious in my mind was that berserk is aiming for a general manga/cartoon style and fails horribly at that and FF is not that type of anime and thus a bad comparison point. If we had an accepted term for it I would have used it.
>>143905431
Japs actually didn't care.
A lot of them actually liked that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhoBuU1Dtc
>>143905578
Granted, if you went out onto an American street in LA and were like "this character was Japanese but now she's played by an American" most people would basically not give a fuck either. Or they'd rob you. Such is life in America.
The ED is really nice
>>143905578
Who gives a fuck about what some random normalfags on the street have to say?
What does 2ch have to say about this?
>>143905708
2ch Responses:
>“Japanese people don’t really care, and that’s really depressing.”
>“I hate Scarlett Johansson because she appeared in that movie that made fun of Japan. She’s ugly, but she might have a face that white people like.”
>“This stinks of a B movie.”
>“Taylor Swift would’ve been better.”
>>143905787
>>>“Taylor Swift would’ve been better.”
>2ch in charge if casting
>>143905787
>that movie that made fun of Japan.
Lost in Translation? What movie are they referring to?
>>143905901
Lost in Translation.
so what does japan think of this adaptation?
>>143905984
They think it's shit, like the rest of all sane humans.
>>143906068
>They think it's shit, like the rest of all sane humans.
>shit
thats a weird way to refer to DAMN GOOD ANIME
>>143898195
SUGOI
>>143896197
My only issue with it is they made Guts look young but Griffith looks post return. Seriously you assholes didn't have a young Griffith model for this scene?
Also why is it the flashbacks all look decent, yet the 'present' cgi looks like ass?
>>143897110
New wallpaper, thanks
>>143905140
I think it's Millennium Falcon arc. Shortly after they save the village from trolls, an ogre and a kelpie and shortly before Zodd drops by Flora's magical treehouse for tea and fire.
>>143898687
That aint live action son, that is CGI actually trying
>>143890122
why is guts so god damn horsefaced in this anime?
finally some susumu action not as a preview
>>143906765
>spending all that time simulating and using the computer to figure out such a minor aspect of the scene
>could have made the dust move just the same with a good eye and a pencil for a lot less time and money
CGI is cancer.
>>143906803
Was there really need to tweak her face like that so it would look like "anime angle".
>>143906848
CGI is cheaper and takes less time than traditional animation. Why the fuck do you think Berserk uses so much CG?
>>143890927
> Guts loses to some wimp ass soldiers after fighting some shit skeletons and a tree
> Follows the manga closely
>some fags now trying to convince /a/ this shitshow is ok
poor taste motherfuckers, just stop posting
>>143906915
When they want it to look like complete dogshit like it does, it's cheaper.
>>143906848
>write software once
>pencil every single frame
>>143906934
It's cheaper in general. You don't need as big of a team to do 3D animation than you do for 2D
>>143906969
You do if you want a product worth selling.
>>143907020
If you say so
>>143907043
Looking at how shit Berserk looks, it's pretty evident you need a bigger team than two interns masturbating into Maya to make worthwhile animation.
>>143906910
It's not strictly necessary, but you have to avoid certain angles or accept that some things will look quite uncanny. There's a reason why traditional animation usually jumps from frontal view to three-quarter profile without in-between frames. The flat, bug-eye heads really do not fit into 3D geometry.
Side-mouth is another thing that needs model adjustments.
Schierke is a more popular character than Fartnese, right? At least to the Japs?
>>143890754
Well they did cut out 2 arcs between
>>143901366
None of the major studios want to animate it.
No idea why. I mean there's a shit ton of chapters w/ plenty of material.
I'm liking this style of Berserk though. It's grown on me all ready. I just wish we could have higher quality stuff from bigger studios.
>>143907074
nobody disputes that. the argument is that given the same budget you would only get face closeups and endless loops of swords clashing for the fight scenes if it were done in 2D. It might look aesthetically more pleasing that way, but it would barely be any animation at all.
The animators basically chose motion over aesthetics. Because CG gives you movement almost for free while every single frame costs you money when they're handdrawn.
You basically have to compare bottom of the barrel 2D and 3D. It'll just be shit in different ways.
>>143907312
I'd take 2D that looks cheap over this 3D that looks like it doesn't care.
And sounds it, too with the fucking pan clangs.
At this point I've just thoroughly convinced myself that they went for immersion with all this bad CG instead of opting for pretty visuals. It really helps me empathize with Guts' suffering.
>>143907199
>>143907199
Because they'd either have to heavily censor Berserk and piss off fans or animate it raw and piss off the censors. I'm thoroughly convinced Berserk cannot be properly be made into an Anime because of this fact
>>143907369
Then we would be ridiculing it for all the QUALITY and lament how the 90s anime at least had nicer colors than paint-bucket characters.
Reminder that the latest series of Jojo
And that Araki delivers new chapters monthly
Come join and drown you sorrows!
>>143894171
>no nipples
>no bush
Why even bother watching this?
>>143905140
When they flood the village after the troll/ogre battle and Caska/Farnese are swept into it. They go in, Guts meets a organified Slan and all that shit, Skele Knight comes to the rescue.
>no lost children arc
>exposition on how he's so injured and can't fight pathetic brat knights, lost
>half the reason the knights are meant to be so amped up, just having come across fields of dead children and mutilated corpses, lost.
Fucking pathetic. I almost would rather no adaption, but i've been waiting 15 years for this shit, so whatever.
>>143899348
This, and what is berserk without rape?
Just kill me now.
>>143890134
>written by Muira
>And then they got on a boat come back in six months for the next episode.
>>143896709
If that's enough to put them off I'm glad they aren't here to be fucking annoying cancer. Much like you.
>>143896940
Griffith infected her with his vitiligo, it was super effective.
>>143888739
i don't know why
You all are delusional if you think we will get rapehorse or sword riding. It will be shit.
can we start pretending this series doesnt exist?
>>143886239
it's expensive. They didnt make it 3D to spend money.
I actually like this adaptation
The new Dragon Quest game looks really cool!
>>143909862
And miss out on the memes? No.
I NEED HAI YO AND I NEED IT FUCKING NOW
N - O - O - O - W
>>143897035
>H-how dare you are not part of the hivemind
Idk, grow up?
where the fuck is the nipple.
I just want my rape animu
>>143910661
I'm not sure how that is even censoring. In the worst case children think boobs should not have nipples so they cut their nipples off and bleed to death. Thanks anime. Thanks bunches.
So farnese is a Senran now? They don't have nipples either.
>>143899478
It's not following the manga. You can see Reika during Masaru first mission and it seems like Kei will be cut so that Masaru will be the MC.
>reading through the artbook of the 97' anime
Fuck I miss traditional paper animation.
That made Casca white, fucking racists
>a literal Singaporean puppet show looks better than Berserk
>>143911360
Name of the puppet show?
Urgh why did Hai yo play this episode.
It was like almost painful sitting through that scene while it played. I wanted it to play in a cool moment not this.
>>143911984
Thunderbolt Fantasy
>>143911360
You mean AOTS
>>143912089
I would totally fuck.
>>143912089
>Any 3D animator in the west with this on their reel would get laughed out of any office space
>>143892583
paint.net master race
>>143892734
I miss Casca
>>143898347
ufotable's choreography wouldn't work for berserk imo.
if what you meant is "imagine if the people working of these were as talented as ufotable's people are" i'd agree.
You know what, I hate Puck in the manga but he works beautifully here.
>>143912908
>ufo
>talented
Yes, i've seen their "talent" in UBW-TV. What a masterpiece, right?
>>143898639
that's a fucking shame, this is one of the few animes(get memed fags) that was just so retarded I had to stop watching it
I mean there are a lot of amazingly retarded shows but this one was killing me inside
Like a non-stop bombardment of that shit from kabanaeri where the guy stops the blood-borne infection from spreading to his brain by cutting off all circulation to his own head level retarded
>>143913152
Better than most anime that comes out nowadays, yeah.
>>143898639
It's actually gorgeous. But I don't like the fact they don't follow the manga.
>>143911360
Berserk wishes it could look this good.
>>143913563
What the fuck?
PICKED UP
>>143913563
we wuz puppets n shieeet
>>143909529
my sides are gone
>>143913563
I feel there's a story of some sort behind this.
The 2nd episode was pretty good.
That KISAMA and ONORE
>>143890198
I hate what they've done to Guts' face more than anything else honestly. Why the fuck is his chin so pointed? His jaw needs to be more broad.
It takes me out of every fucking scene. It only looks decent in the 2D drawn parts (like pretty much everything else).
>>143890435
as sasuga'd
>>143914607
It wasn't anime enough
>>143914737
>I am perfectly okay with the events that are currently unfolding.
>>143888739
is Puckface now a meme?
>>143915178
can someone edit this with her original skin color pls
>>143915118
>>143915153
>>143915234
I quite like the OP. The only problem is that whacky, over the top, Kanada/Imaishi style of animation doesn't fit Berserk at all.
>tfw Berserk Volume 5 is £20+ for new on amazon and pretty much out of print everywhere else
Fucking goddamn it.
>>143915701
Anyone know where I can buy Volume 5 and receive it within a couple of days? everywhere I've looked either has ridiculous prices or long ass waits.
>>143916157
I know that you can get those in germany, they have 2 volumes each and cost 10€ a piece.
>>143915701
>he can't read moon
>>143916220
Whops, forgot my image.
>>143916233
I was able to grab the other volumes for £10 or under but 5 is being a bitch to get, I can get it for £15 used but'll it will take ages to be delivered.
>>143916360
blah blah not getting the moon release instead which is readily available
>>143916404
why would I get moon version if I cannot read it?
>>143890754
In the manga he's just been almost killed like 3 times in a row and hasn't even had a chance to sleep since then.
In the anime a little girl poked his rib with a sword.
They really should've just left it the fuck alone, shouldn't they?
>>143916438
You're the one telling me your sob story in the first place.
>he still can't read moon
Berserk is so good that even if it looks like shit you still want to watch it
>>143916275
The red block at the bottom makes it look like a Scholastic book.
Has anyone apologized for the quality of this series yet?
No "seeing the shitty CGI next to my animation is like putting my face next to an anus and breathing deeply" comments?
>>143895505
Nah, the reason they do so is because it wouldn't be Berserk withouth some kind of suffering.
>>143915118
>wake up this morning hoping to have a nice hot cup of dark brown Casca
>find out some asshole poured creamer into my Casca ruining it's rich dark color and flavor
I just wanted a nice hot cup of black Casca is that so much to ask?
new thread
>>143916937
>>143916937
>>143916937
>>143916908
Great analogy
>>143907312
Do like JoJo, Phantom Blood looked like a Powerpoint presentation but slowly became good by selling and effort on their part.
Seriously people forgot how shit Part 1 and most of Part 2 looked.
>>143892777
>Bunny face
>trips
Can this be anymore perfect?
>>143913563
My only problem with this is that they look like they are hovering all the time instead of walking but that's normal for puppets I guess.
How dark is the manga later on? I read upto point when Guts gets branded(or flashback revel?) and tells the little girl whose father(fat bald king) becomes a demon(due to the hell gate thing) to commit suicide, that's last I remember.
I stopped because it was getting too dark with no hope,just like my real life.
Is it all pain and suffering?
Are there any moments of happiness?
>>143918178
later it becomes like final fantasy, guts has a team and they go around having adventures, they meet the elves from lord of the rings too
>>143918178
You have a ways to go before you get to happy-ish times. But its worth the ride.
>>143918226
>>143918325
ok then, I think I will catch up with this series now, thx.
I feel like watching this would be doing a disservice to the manga, which I did read once.