Holy shit there's still more to this? How controversial was this ending?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-07-07/kumamiko-manga-creator-apologizes-for-anime-ending/.104063
>>143847026
sudoku watch
>The official Kumamiko anime website also made a post clarifying that the anime received approval from the original creator
lel and the author said he (she I think, actually) wasn't involved in it.
>>143847026
How did it end?
Kuma miko~
damage control~
>>143847123
They are in full damage control mode.
>>143847204
Badly.
>>143847204
Perfectly.
Does this mean there's less to blame on Sugiura now?
I'm tired of all the bullying he's getting.
Episode 8 was the best
Am I the only one who liked the bullying?
>>143847026
I'm glad i dropped this shit around episode 4
>director and head screenwriters were literally-whos who had only worked on one anime before this; Bottom Biting Bug
Nothing of value was lost. These jokers will be laughed out of the industry.
anime original ending, not even once
>>143847204
mind break.
>>143847598
Please no, Sugiura is going to work on a big project next season and he was really excited about it.
Fucking Kuma Miko.
>>143847663
I really really hope this encourages more studios to stop doing anime original ends
>>143847735
>big project
He's doing the spinoff to Touken Ranbu, AKA Kancolle for girls.
Nothing of value.
>>143847228
Bullshit. It is quite obvious the author knew about it, and the raging fans purposefully misinterpreted/outright lied about what she had said just to justify their hate-boner. This shit happened before during the whole Kokoro Connect incident involving Eri Kitamura. People outright lied then, so quite frankly, the fact that the only supposed 'proof' that people have now is a single tweet is outright laughable.
>>143847820
Anime original endings wouldn't be so bad if yhe weren't just so thematically different and nonsensical 99% of the time
>>143847204
Should I watch it for the sake of cringe, /a/?
>>143847944
Yes.
>>143847839
It's still a big project. Lots of hype and money behind it.
Actually I hope it ends up being good so this incident gets forgotten.
>>143847026
I can see the author getting pulled into the company office and gettting a typical speech
"Ah you said all stuff but yet the animation staff worked hard to create an anime based on your works. Isn't it unfair to place blame on people who were just adapting your story" etc
Why are people upset about the ending?
>>143847204
Natsu got the mindbreak bad end.
>>143847204
Just another Yoshio mindbreak, went a bit too far
>>143847204
The bear ruined everything
>>143847919
Bullshit, the author did make a post on his blog saying that he received the script mfor the final ep but decided not to review it because he trusted the writers not to fuck up, but he deleted it immediately when shit started to hit the fan. Unfortunately for him it was archived, so now him suddenly going "oh yeah I was totally involved in the writing for the last episode, please buy the BDs" just reeks of gunpoint damage control.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-23/kumamiko-creator-remarks-on-cruel-comment-in-final-episode-script/.103547
http://web.archive.org/web/20160621153234/http://masmeyoshimoto.tumblr.com/
>>143848142
It was shit and undermied the entire show
>>143848362
How can an ending undermine a show that's 100% episodic in structure?
>mfw I still didn't finish kuma miko because of Chyuu
RYUUK, HURRY YOUR SHIT UP
>>143848142
Because it's almost as bad as actual bullying
>>143848391
It fucks up the entire character arc that was presented through and goes against he message of the show.
>>143848430
Literally worse than Hiryuu
>>143848555
What exactly was the message of the show though?
>>143848555
>character arc that was presented through
You mean all of the rest of the show where we see her fear of the city become increasingly more intense culminating in the last episode where she just flips out? Seems pretty consistent to me.
>goes against he message of the show
What message?
>>143848596
Giving girls traumatic experiences is hilarious, according to the manga's author
>>143848683
They're right, you know.
>>143848683
I mean most young boys/girls have traumatic experiences, and a good amount of the time the situation could be funny to others watching.
>>143848756
I don't know what's funny about a girl being afraid of being stoned and then refusing to go anywhere near the city because of it
>>143848683
Bless him.
So it went from "I had no say it the matter because they're professionals and I trusted their judgement" to "It's all my fault"? Seems like a bit of a strange turn..
>>143848683
I want to bully Machi
I want to see her driven before me etc etc
>>143847942
Should've crossed out the "for a while" because that implies there's still hope
>>143848756
The problem is that they don't really frame it as funny, they just keep throwing Machi into increasingly traumatic experiences until she finally breaks and gives up her dream
>>143848926
Just like real life young idols
>>143848891
Hey, those BDs aren't gonna sell themselves
>>143848891
They did write the manga, but I don't think the staff really liked it
Strangely i don't enjoy NTR but I very much enjoy Kuma MIko mind broken girl ending very much
>>143849005
Don't see what NTR has anything to do with the Kuma Miko ending
>>143848926
That's why the show is great. If you don't enjoy Machi bullying you can't enjoy the show. If you do, you can't not enjoy it unless you get caught up in some silly shit like "the ending ruined the whole show because it didn't go like I thought it would".
>>143848891
I really doubt an author would risk not checking the sole anime original episode of their show just because "they're pros I'm not".
>>143848904
Please, if they ever felt like doing a second season they could easily have Machi waking up the next morning and going "You know what? I changed my mind, I still want to go to the city." and have another 12 episodes of Miko bullying.
>>143849005
I don't think you know what NTR means anon.
Stupid chink chongs don't deserve anime this good, they can't into dark humour
>>143848971
Of course, but the damage is already done. Going into damage control weeks later when nobody cares anymore is not going to change the opinion of the average otaku, especially when the reception was so negative towards the end. The mangaka at least had the ace in the hole of "Hey, wasn't my fault w" but now they're basically pinning the blame on themselves now too, essentially shitting on themselves.
>>143849101
>"the ending ruined the whole show because it didn't go like I thought it would".
More like "what did this girl do to deserve any of this"
>>143849005
Dumb /a/ poster
>>143849268
See, that would put you in the category of those who don't enjoy the Machi bullying so you wouldn't even qualify for the rest of the post.
Losers would have liked it if it went full madoka and reversed its edginess at the end only to add it back in a movie
what i don't understand is why didn't yoshio or natsu told her that no one was actually throwing anything at her and they just kept quiet about it
>>143849101
I did like the bullying at the beginning when it was indeed framed as comedic, the problem is that it just kept escalating and becoming more and more mean-spirited, and no the ending didn't ruin the show for me because I stopped giving a fuck about it after the supermarket ep, when it was clear the writers stopped giving a fuck
>>143848002
She aced the Shimamura one, at least.
>>143849376
She's just a kid. Kids cry about a lot of shit all of the time. They don't have to entertain her every little whining.
>>143849101
The bullying was funny when it was light teasing and more like poking fun at Machi's naivete but then you get things like Hibiki's introduction being pushing her face into a wall for no reason and then it just starts getting a little bit too crazy from there
>>143849432
It was comedic till the end, you just lost sight of it. Your silly shit was expecting some plot or development.
>>143849263
They are trying to get some goodwill back from the core audience by making it look like the mangaka gave them his seal of approval.
>>143849268
Life isn't far anon, life doesn't care if your a little girl.
>the author have to come out and apologize for the anime ending
Holy shit, didn't pick up this show, now im extremely interested.
It's like people have never heard of the word schadenfreude.
>>143849537
Is that some philosopher?
>>143849475
>but then you get things like Hibiki's introduction being pushing her face into a wall for no reason and then it just starts getting a little bit too crazy from there
The whole point of the show is pushing the bullying further and further. Establishing some arbitrary limit to what is okay and what's too much is fagottry beyond all boundaries. The only limit should be "we legally can't show this on TV". Anything lower would be the writers pussyig out.
>ITT
>>143849522
Don't be. It's just people overblowing shit on the internet as usual.
>>143847123
In the mangaka's blogpost she thanked the anime staff for their hard work but that she didn't like Yoshio's dialogue in the final episode and regreted not reading the episode script for it. Not that she hated the adaptation overall or wasn't involved at all. Just that she trusted the studio and approved it without reading it.
![[Z4ST1N] Kuma Miko OVA - 01v2 (DVD 480p) [F78558FD][00:07:56.725]_[07.07.2016][21:10:03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oYJWR22.jpg "[Z4ST1N] Kuma Miko OVA - 01v2 (DVD 480p) [F78558FD][00:07:56.725]_[07.07.2016][21:10:03].jpg")
Just look at that guilt on his face, he knows what he has done
They should have just put a trigger warning at the beginning of every episode.
Any numbers on the blue ray sales?
>>143849537
/a/ is full of chink ESLs, so it's not surprising.
>>143848683
It gives me a boner.
>>143849490
How was any of pic related comedic?
>>143848891
Not really.
>Also, regarding the final episode's script, I participated in the composition meeting, and when we asked what to do for the final episode, I proposed something like, "How about going to Sendai? Then Machi gets into an accident, Natsu hurries by car to save her, they get back together at the climax of the story, and it ends." If there are people who feel uncomfortable with corresponding sections, it's my responsibility. I am sorry.
Sure, it says "I was at the meetings, I'm sorry" but it doesn't contradict anything said previously.
There's no mention of the author approving of Yoshio's sacrifice speech or Machi's delusions and regression.
>Author makes a post about not liking certain aspects of the end and apologizes for not reading the script.
>Post quickly taken down. Most likely at the publisher's orders because you can't shit talk something your a part of like that in the business world.
>A couple weeks later a blog post goes up praising the series even over the manga and that she was totally involved.
>This goes up around the same time as the studio's statement.
Yes, this was totally sincere and not scripted at all.
>>143849867
Haha it's funny because she's getting her head bashed against the fence
>BDs come out, 1-9 are same as usual, 10-12 are brand new episodes as an apology. Script taken straight from the manga (or mangaka) with a happy ending for Machi.
Suddenly everyone would love the series again.
>>143849699
>but that she didn't like Yoshio's dialogue in the final episode
So, basically, the author wasn't against the ending itself, but simply didn't like Yoshio's dialogue? Oh wow, so it's basically people over-reacting and deliberately misinterpreting other people's words for their hateboner?
>notthisshitagain.png
>>143849867
Because she makes cute noises when she gets hurt
>>143849897
>>143849537
schadenfreude isn't >>143849867
It's more like laughing at tragic yet funny stuff, like a quadruple amputee with a 'get well soon' card on their desk.
>>143849867
That scene was one of my favorites, you can suck my balls.
>>143850040
>tragic yet funny stuff
So Kuma Miko.
>quadruple amputee with a 'get well soon' card
/a/ will cry about bullying all the same.
There's literally nothing wrong with the ending and bullying the miko.
Also, best anime of the season.
>>143849946
Machi didn't have a happy end in the manga. She has a nightmare about Sendai being terrible and temporarily gives up wanting to go and the series continues from there while exploring the village more before getting back to Machi's modern ignorance. She still gives up, but its just not do to believing her own hallucinations and didn't screw up the tone of the end scene by fucking up the end joke and making her seem retarded.
>>143848142
Machi's happiness differs from viewers' idea of happiness
>>143850048
Sorry had to go get my fedora so I could tip it to you
>>143849792
○くまみこ 【BOX全2巻】
巻数 初動 発売日
01巻 1,809 16.06.24 ※くまぼっくす
>>143849958
The usual ANN clickbait
>>143850193
It's on 2K as of this week.
>>143850157
Sorry if I'm not a faggot who gets offended by a drawing of a girl getting bullied.
>>143850098
>So Kuma Miko.
assuming you enjoy japanese'''''humour'''''
>>143850248
>offended
>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
>>143847026
The author is a girl who's easily bullied into submission, there was a stream where her editor told her to shut the fuck up.
>>143850240
Where's the data?
My wife Machi is so cute.
>>143847204
With a joke that probably sounded funnier in their heads than it actually ended up being
>>143850434
So Kumamiko is an autobiography? So does that all but confirm Machi ends up being a citygirl in the end?
These faggots. The ending was hilarious.
>>143848142
>>143847924
I don't understand why they just don't go with something from the manga just out of laziness in the first place
>>143850513
It confirms that this will be the author's only work. The last chapter will be painted red to symbolize Machi's suicide, as the author kills herself.
>>143850217
It wasn't even clickbait, people legitimately didn't like the ending and Yoshio's faux pas and the author just said how he agreed that Yoshio's comment was uncalled for.
>>143847204
It was one of those comedy animes that suddenly becomes fucking dark for no reason.
Soiya music when?
Natsu should have let be free.
Kuma Miko fucked up in a couple places. Mostly in that the manga makes the bullying scenes very brief, with the humor focused more on Machi's ignorance than the actual bullying. The anime fucked this up by focusing on the bullying itself and dragging the scenes out.
They also swapped the order of Hibiki's appearance for some reason. Originally Machi has her mall freakout over her clothes first, which prompts Yoshio to ask Hibiki to take her shopping for new clothes. This showed that Yoshio actually does care about how Machi feels. The anime swapped these events, removing this characterization for Yoshio. I guess they wanted to shill the clothing brand earlier or something.
>>143849475
>pushing her face into a wall for no reason
Given what happens later on with the delusions part of me is questioning whether or not this actually happened in the first place now
>>143850438
>86 30 **,270 *,**2,079 **2 くまみこ 壱 -くまぼっくす-【Blu-ray】
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4656856971?pid=93395198239&see_lz=1#93395198239
>>143850532
They were receiving funding from Sendai and had to shill it. So they wrote an original ending where they actually go to Sendai.
>>143849170
>sole anime original
The hot spring episode was also original, eh?
>>143850885
There were three anime original episodes overall.
Anime ending was fine. A little too truthy for sensitive people perhaps
Kuma miko vs Berserk (anime-2016)
Which one is better?
>>143848142
we're not assholes
>>143850123
I thought the manga was still ongoing?
>>143849800
>ESLs not having a better grasp on burgerspeak
lmao
>>143851052
It is.
>and the series continues from there while exploring the village more before getting back to Machi's modern ignorance.
>>143851038
Kuma Miko has been all around funnier just for the damage control by the studio.
>>143851086
hreo ;0 I rike sushi <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HICffpLBpHM
Even emergence didn't cause this much butthurt. Fuck off normies, end yourselves if your can't fap to a little girl getting abused.
>>143847026
I honestly don't see what the big deal was. As someone who actually had agoraphobia, you don't just come out of it by being shoved onto a stage, that makes it worse.
It was surprisingly down to Earth, if anything.
>>143851248
>normies
>>>/r9k/
>People being this butthurtthat other people thought the ending was bad.
>>143851614
It was bland. But this whole being upset is just everyone being sjw suddenly, after the whole season was about the happy sexualization and bullying of Machi. Even that fucking line about the sacrifice was mentioned in the first episode.
>sjw
>normie
>offended
I'm starting to notice a trend with people defending the anime ending
>>143847026
Kek
This mayn't be this funny
>>143851937
You're only just now noticing? It's been the same couple of people in almost every thread.
Man, I feel bad for the MC's VA. This was her first important role, so I hope the negativity doesn't affect her in the long run
>>143849505
>They are trying to get some goodwill back from the core audience by making it look like the mangaka gave them his seal of approval.
That doesn't work on the internet. Especially since the people they are trying to fool already read the deleted blog post. The only people who would be fooled by it are the normal people who have never watched the show and would never have bought the DVDs anyway.
>>143852098
Why would it? None of it was her fault, shes just a VA. She was great throughout.
>>143852220
>Why would it?
is this your first anime "controversy"
>>143847026
Studio went anime original for the last couple episodes yet still chose to actually end with the manga chapter where Machi gives up on going to the city (For now). They also dragged out and amped up the bullying and Machi's anxiety which killed the humor and ruins the tone of the ending making it come across as a darker/more depressing scene than it was in the manga. Also, fuck them for fucking up the Amazon joke.
Honestly in my opinion the Director was the real problem but honestly this whole thing would have blown over and been forgotten quickly but the writer fucked up and started deleting his social media accounts and an IP address that just so coincidentally happened to be from the writers area just happened to try to delete the series from his wiki page coincidentally at the same time as he was deleting social media accounts. This drew all the attention to him and escalated everything.
It was obviously terrible but it's not like the anime suddenly dropped in the last episode, the entire Idol thing was drawn out and awful.
>>143852238
She hasn't really been brought up much at all in this. She's probably safe. It's the writer and studio in general who may have trouble in the future as most of the attention is centered around them.
>>143847204
Unfortunate commentary about how a good amount of Japan still doesn't give a fuck about mental disorders.
B-But the ending was pretty decent
>>143852272
>an IP address that just so coincidentally happened to be from the writers area just happened to try to delete the series from his wiki page coincidentally at the same time as he was deleting social media accounts
(((Pure coincidence)))
>>143851248
>Even emergence didn't cause this much butthurt.
Because its ending didn't come out of left field.
>this much controversy and butthurt and career ruining because manchildren were offended by the ending of their cartoon
nips are so fucking weird sometimes
Machi doing Kyary Pamyu Pamyu routines when?
>>143852724
The entire butthurt over the same thing that was in the show for the whole time is more of a surprise. The retards just change their minds after the last episode. Only the retarded fanbase is at fault here.
>>143852909
>The retards
Who?
>>143852909
>Only the retarded fanbase is at fault here.
The same fanbase who was the main source of this show's income? The same fanbase who they are dependent on for success?
What were the Nico ratings for the last episode?
>>143853015
The same fanbase that celebrated the bullying and sexualization of Machi for three months, doing naked edits of screenshots, then suddenly going assblasted mode when the last episode aired. Hypocrisy.
>>143852732
>nips
nips weren't the ones that had sent pictures of their penises to a VA. nips are nowhere near as butthurt as 4chan gets when it comes to their anime
>>143853148
>The same fanbase that celebrated the bullying and sexualization of Machi for three months, doing naked edits of screenshots, then suddenly going assblasted mode when the last episode aired. Hypocrisy.
You can insult them all you want, that still wouldn't convince them to pay the studio money.
You remind me of Miyamoto complaining that Japanese audiences are not entertained by his games lately. That he blames the gamers for not buying his game titles.
That shit doesn't work, you are suppose to appeal to your customers, if the customers are not interested, it is not the customer's fault.
>>143853153
>nips weren't the ones that had sent pictures of their penises to a VA. nips are nowhere near as butthurt as 4chan gets when it comes to their anime
The Nico ratings showed that there was plenty of anger in Japan.
>>143847026
Welp, guess I'll watch this.
This season's shit anyway.
>>143853217
The problem is that they liked it at first, then changed their minds for a reason that they liked the show for earlier. Makes no fucking sense. It's like gundamfags wouldn't buy the latest show because robots fight in it.
>>143853395
It's almost as if the mood of the show changed through its run and people didn't like the direction it was taking
>>143853217
This is what we're dealing with, gentlemen. Assblasted otakus that not only want the industry to appeal more and more to them but legitimately justifies online rioting over some 30 minutes of their time and threats to the careers of people they refuse to give money to.
Anime is no longer a place for even the slightest of form of free creative expression. Everything must pander to the customer alone.
I don't give a shit if they're Japanese or not but this shit will ruin any artform anywhere. If that's what the "majority" of /a/ wants, then /a/ is more than brain-dead.
>>143853395
Nip interest in the series actually began to drop off around the department store shilling episode and then started plummeting with the commercial episode. The last episode was really just the last straw.
>>143853314
That's really bad. Did that beat out Valverave's final episode?
>>143853467
>You need support things you thought were awful in order to preserve creative freedom.
With the way the industry works that would just tell them to make more of what you didn't like. They already work to cater to their audiences tastes. They're a business interested in making money.
>>143853467
The anime industry is nothing but pandering.
>>143853395
Thing is, showing her encountering adversity and coming back is good.
Showing her being attacked over and over and whimpering back, not so good.
Showing her going to the city and losing, never to return... you may as well have hit her with a truck.
>>143853531
>That's really bad. Did that beat out Valverave's final episode?
61.% for Valverave ending, so VVV wins for being worse.
>>143853681
She actually won, but her autism caused her to freak out. Machi is to blame, everyone else didn't do anything wrong.
>>143850596
>>143852441
that's pretty great, what's so bad about that.
>>143853467
>Anime is no longer a place for even the slightest of form of free creative expression. Everything must pander to the customer alone.
Since when was it EVER about creative expression? You are talking out of your ass. Underground artists don't get to have 2.5million USD to make a 1 cour anime.
Was it really that bad?
How dark is it?
From what I gather I feel like she just decides to not go in to the city because shes autismo, but that seems like it could be played off fine.
>>143853774
She didn't win. She won a special award for her performance.
>>143848683
I thought that was the anime staff's fault.
>>143853806
>From what I gather I feel like she just decides to not go in to the city because shes autismo, but that seems like it could be played off fine.
She had actual hallucinations. She was suffering from medically defined delirium.
I really enjoyed this show up until the last episode. I didn't find the ending as offensive as others but I did feel like it took it too far. If there had been an OVA or a final episode where she decided not to give up on going to the city then I really don't think I would have had an issue with it, in fact I was waiting until the very last second for a scene of her changing her mind again. It almost felt like the show was missing an episode once I finished it. Still if you disregard the final episode and look at the show all together it was still a 7/10, very cute and funny.
>>143853806
It wasn't MEANT to be dark, but they really dropped the ball and fucked up the tone by extending the bullying scenes, Yoshio's comments, and other small alterations. They were trying to make it another gag but it really doesn't come across that way.
>>143853875
The bullying was fun.
>>143853827
I mean she didn't lose, people liked her.
>>143853806
>Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of her nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. She had won the victory over herself. She loved Kumade village.
>>143853610
>You need to threaten people's careers when things deviate slightly from how it works
From the way the fans are reacting, that's the message the studio will get, I'll place money on it. Even if you didn't like it, it still is not justification for online riots, is it?
>>143853805
All art forms, no matter how money-grubbing, have a degree of creative freedom. Even bloody Hollywood has it. Look at your own ass before you shit on others.
>>143853664
And you want more of the brain-dead adaptations it's been churning out? Something a little different shouldn't be too much, should it?
>>143853790
Did you miss Natsu's moral dilemma and how he chooses the selfish option and then just acts like everything's peachy for the rest of that epilogue?
>>143853939
>And you want more of the brain-dead adaptations it's been churning out?
I didn't say that. You're jumpier than the otaku you're criticizing.
>>143853972
Yeah, I probably am. What did you say then? Any points I should take?
>>143853806
>that seems like it could be played off fine.
Could, but didn't. Not due to oversight or anything, it seems like it was deliberately ended in a way which made it seem a terminal end.
Machi went to the city for a idol contest which she was already nervous about. Fear and panic and delirium set in and eventually, even though she managed to perform successfully, she thought people were literally throwing rocks at her.
She runs home and cries to the bear, vowing to never ever think about going outside the village ever again. She's later seen giddily happy about not having to know anything about anything, let alone Intaneto Saito who delivers packages.
Then there was that completely fucked up bit where Yoshio talks about how Machi is a sacrifice for the town, and later mentioning that he actually has had rocks thrown at him before.
The rest of the show went from "lol bullying" to "hey now", but the last ep was plain what the fuck.
>>143854098
Picked up. Sounds good to me.
>>143849522
I feel the same, because no matter were I look nobody actually says what was so bad about it. Other than 'minbreak hehe'.
the fuck is wrong with nips seriously
The ending was a deliberate fuck you to the author from the anime staff for bullying Machi in the manga. The manga makes fun of hicks and Tohoku bumpkins in the same way Hard Gay made fun of faggots.
The anime ending is delicious if you love suffering, but it was also hard love for Machi to tell the manga author to fuck off.
>>143853939
>All art forms, no matter how money-grubbing, have a degree of creative freedom. Even bloody Hollywood has it. Look at your own ass before you shit on others.
If you want creative freedom you should look for it in an Original anime. That is not what Adaptations are for. Adaptations are the antithesis of creative freedom.
>>143853872
No one was offended by it, if you read the thread you can see that pretty much agrees it was just a cause of over-the-line, the whole "lol offended" is just a narrative that contrarians and /v/-tier fedoras are trying to set up to deflect criticism of the show
>>143853872
>If there had been an OVA or a final episode where she decided not to give up on going to the city then I really don't think I would have had an issue with it, in fact I was waiting until the very last second for a scene of her changing her mind again.
Yep.
I half was expecting a surprise OVA announcement or something to go "Hey she's gonna try again!". Bully her all you want, but don't end her dream.
>>143848142
Normalfags wanted her to become a city slut.
>>143854216
Adapting something to a completely different medium often calls for creative liberties. You can't simply do a 1-to-1 adaptation.
>>143854411
There is taking creative liberties and then there completely changing the tone during the adaptation
>>143850365
Kuma Miko 2: Muslim Boogaloo
>>143848142
Western pampered kids couldn't handle some light bullying when you are supposed to laugh at her suffering.
>>143854551
>Western pampered kids
but it's otaku in nippon
>>143854283
Lots of people were offended by the ending, that is why it has had such a massive backlash. I'm not trying to say that that makes the ending okay just that I was not as upset about it as others. People felt offended by the behavior of characters and how they treated Miko. If people were not offended by the ending then the backlash would not have been as bad, however the ending would have seemed shitty.
>>143854608
Or maybe, just maybe people legitimately didn't like the ending because it was shit, and stared bitching about how it was shit and the studio went overzealous witht the damage control.
Stop this "lol the only people who didn't like then ending were easily offended tumblrnormiesjwcucks" nonsense already
Just finished it, I stopped at like episode 9 but decided to finally get around to finishing it because of the controversy (and because I don't like actually dropping anything that isn't harmeshit)
>Machi gets mindbroken by City Life and spends the rest of her life with Natsu
>Natsu continues to enable a mindbroken 14 y/o for his selfish gain
Yeah I can see why people aren't happy about it.
>>143848472
>nobody actually bullied her for the whole episode and all the bad shit was in her head
Yeah, terrible.
>>143853916
Pretty much this
>>143855077
The whole town really. Not just the bear.
Kumade is fucked up
>>143853314
>声優に罪はない
See? These guys get it.
>Emergence will never be canonically the sequel of Kumamiko where Machi goes to the city school and gets exploited and turned into a junkie slut
Actually I'm fucking butthurt over the ending that prevented this.
>>143853916
Is that a 1984 reference?
Nice.
>>143850596
Reminds me of Kotoura-san, only backwards.
First episode started out ultra grimderp, then the rest of it was fun SoL shenanigans with occasional dips into darkness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1qeD91m1Oo
Shitty ending aside, the bullying was one of the hallmarks of the show.
Is there a darker anime than Kumamiko?
>>143855449
I forgot how funny this was.
>>143855412
Kumamiko doesn't even go full grimdark, the humor just starts to rely more and more in the Machi suffering until it ultimately falls flat on its face at the ending
>>143855472
Texhnolyze
>>143851937
There has been exactly one reference to "normies", "sjw" and "offended" in this entire fucking thread prior to you bringing it up so I have no idea what the fuck your talking about.
>>143855492
Too bad the rest of the segment was just Machi being shit on for 10 minutes.
Natsu was not funny at all.
>>143855472
Tons. But there is just something really special about taking a cute little kitty cat and throwing it off a cliff into a lake watching it screach and squirm in agony. Then once it miraculously swims its way to shore, as it catches it's breathe you pet it gently and lovingly just throw it back in again, causing the cat to give up and just drown.
10/10
>>143854474
This is why girls belong in purdah.
>>143851937
It is, there's always that same guy mentioning the same shit every thread.
and while the bullying was pretty much the main focus I think we can safely agree it went over the line in that last episode.
>>143855800
What line? The one that we're all supposed to share because of our common upbringing? Grow up and accept that it's not offensive to some and that those who did find it offensive are being too overreactive over it. You fags brought it upon yourselves crying the exact same thing in over 30 threads now. It's hilarious that you cry foul when we've heard the same wailing over and over again.
>>143855021
Fuck did you even read my post? The ending was shit, of course that is true however a large portion of the negative backlash was a result of people taking offense from the final episode. The way that Miko was treated upset and OFFENDED lots of people, this can be seen in online reviews and complaints about the ending. This does not mean and in no fucking way did I even imply it meant that the ending was not shit or that the only issue was people being oversensitive. You seem like a stupid faggot who is trying to prove a point to someone when they are not even arguing against you, please improve your reading comprehension you stupid fuck.
>>143855623
I like this scenario.
>>143853153
Wait, what?
>>143856519
Your new is show, tripfag
>>143856644
Was that about the KyoAni VA who had sex with an entire band?
>>143856684
Nope, stop being such a fucking newfag and lurk more
>>143856684
>entire band
You tried.
>>143847026
She ended up retarded and fucked by a bear.
>>143856710
OH RIIIIGHT, the Kokoro Connect thingy. I almost forgot about that. Damn, how many years has it been.
>>143856728
I know, I know, except the bassist. You got the gist though.
>>143856728
>>143856796
based bassist did nothing wrong
>>143848683
>Giving girls traumatic experiences is hilarious
Isn't this part of Japanese culture? Like physically hurting someone is funny, yelling and hitting someone is funny and so on.
>>143856796
>OH RIIIIGHT
>thingy
Drop dead tripfag.
>>143856796
>>143856728
>bass always getting neglected
Fuck those plebs.
>Controversial
In a medium where everything is so safe and sterile, I appreciate a little of risk.
>>143857011
They're big fans of slapstick humor but they're not outright cruel. Even if the appeal was seeing Machi bullied, this was pretty damn cruel.
>>143857057
I want to fuck a bassist.
>>143847026
It's sad they're getting so much backlash for fucking up so bad at the very last minute.
>>143847026
Whats the problem? It was perfect ending : "you`ll stay with us forever!"
Just like 4chan
>>143848891
welcome to japanese entertainment industry
even if you fuck up if someone calls you out on it or vaguely complains he is the one that has sinned and has to go full seppuku
i can understand why they don't want to open markets and compete with the west too, they would get slaughtered and our media is ruthless towards sore losers like these
>>143857102
I don't know what those Japanese expected from a weird seinen adaptation that aired at an 11pm slot. It's not the studio's fault that they mistook the actual appeal of this series for something else nor is it reasonable for them to smear shit over it for weeks on end if they hated it.
>>143857090
This guy has the right idea. Nothing wrong with a little spice once in a while.
>b-but they went too far.
Suck it up and just don't bother with it like a civilised adult. You don't own the series so don't get your balls twisted over it for goodness' sake.
>>143857480
You gotta remember that besides the people in this thread acknowledging the reason for the outrage, none of us are actually getting our butts blown off. Its the nip otaku making this out to be some sort of controversy.
>>143849867
Well, there is an entire section of hentai that focuses on female characters getting beaten up brutally. No doubt there are some sociopaths out there finds this type of shit to be funny too.
>>143847204
Many people got triggered because Machi had a panic attack while reharsing for the idol contest and getting lost in Sendai. In the end she had a good perfomance.Being a person with a severe inferiority complex just saw the negative things in her adventure later looking comfort with the bear which has some issues with letting her go.
>>143857553
I'm not accusing you if you're not getting your glutes exploded. If you can be calm about it, I'm happy for you. The message is addressed to the other retards and I can assure you that they exist.
>>143848683
And he's right.
>>143847839
>Touken Ranbu, AKA Kancolle for girls.
Is there a self insert? this is important.
>>143854168
Basically
>entire series revolves around machi's desire to stop being a hick and go to high school in the city
>she knows comically little about the modern world
>also extremely socially anxious and has an intense bumpkin complex
>she gets traumatized repeatedly after attempts to do simple things like use a modern rice cooker or go shopping in a mall
>that's okay though because she's learning and not giving up
>all of a sudden she has to enter an idol contest in the city
>this means having to do kagura in front of a couple of hundred people she's never met before
>starts having vivid hallucinations about city people throwing rocks at her
>bails but comes back after a change in heart
>terrified, but manages to shut out the bad thoughts and get through her performance
>the second she's done the hallucinations of stoning come back in full force even though the crowd is cheering for her
>she's absolute wreck when she gets home, moreso than any other point in the show and outright gives up on her dream
>bear is like "thats okay you dont have to think about anything anymore"
>credits start playing and she's mentally regressed to the level of a 5-year-old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQoHhSzbt0
>>143857673
>Many people got triggered because Machi had a panic attack while reharsing for the idol contest and getting lost in Sendai
That part shouldn't be a big deal. Especially with all the stuff that happened before.
>>143849537
I've know of it, but I usually don't find anything enjoyable about an innocent little girl getting bullied.
>>143855623
Don't you compare cats to human women. Cats are nice and innocent and shouldn't be hurt.
this isn't big enough yet, something else must happen
>b-but the author said it was OK
>so the diarrhea covered shit we made is comestible
Holy shit.
>>143850668
So she just has social anxiety and imagines everyone bullying her when they really aren't? That is just sad, not funny at all.
If they played their cards right this could have been a decent black comedy, but it's portrayed too SoL and lighthearted that it's just jarring.
>waaaahhh stop being so mean to this completely imaginary cartoon character
>>143851301
People were more bothered by the enabling of her phobia by saying it's okay to stay home instead of saying that everyone there was cheering for her and that how she perceived it is not what actually happened.
