All of my friends are dead
>>143750679
She could make new friends that aren't then.
>>143750938
>Having friends
>>143750679
The anime already needs Rose and it needs it badly. Only Rose can save this goddamn shit anime. I fucking hope they don't make the mistake of removing her from her co-protagonist role. Doing so would be absolutely disastrous.
>>143751151
Bait harder baba
>>143751151
>The anime already needs Rose
I wonder who could b* b*hind this post?
>>143751151
Baba pls
>>143751151
Rose a shit
A SHIT
>>143751282
>>143751242
>MAL
Don't they know this was an original episode prologue?
>>143751306
>>143751358
I actually wouldn't mind Rose as a character. She's a creepy fucking sociopath who murders people based on cold reason.
The issue is that the game goes out of its way to tell you she's 100% right and just and pure
Rose a shit
Roxy is best girl
>>143751151
>I fucking hope they don't make the mistake of removing her from her co-protagonist role.
I would honestly pick this animu up in a heart beat if that were true.
>>143750938
But would those be "true friends"?
>>143751636
Only by being alive they could become one, and if they don't it will hurt less when they also die.
And friends that die in the first episode aren't true friends anyway.
>>143751151
>co-protagonist role
Already filled, sorry Baba.
>>143750679
It's okay, Alisha, they never really liked you and planned to kill you during this mission anyway.
>>143752029
*slits the FAGGOTS throat*
*drinks his blood*
*takes his screentime*
Pssh... nothing personel, fujos
So is her mom, her dad and like half her siblings.
>>143751967
Shut up you shitty spirits.
>fans wanted more Alisha focus in the game
>Studio Ufotable dedicates an entire episode to shitting on her life
>>143750679
>Alisha was happy once
>director has nothing important in his resume
u fucking wot m8
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=11235
That was very boring.
Alisha a shit.
>>143752158
>says the yuribait
>>143753483
He has a voice acting role.
>>143753650
Sorry lads, we /ss/
>>143753483
what? all I see is some KA work and director for the unremarkable Symphonia OVAs.
>>143753514
Go away Baba.
>>143753714
In other words she's a degenerate who should slit her own throat.
>>143753908
Alisha is a shit though. Quit getting mad because you you chose a waifu based on art design and it bit you in the ass
>>143753483
So this is who was probably responsible for that assassin scene.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=3360
>>143753967
poor matsushima having to work with ufotable
>>143753965
Baba pls
>>143753965
Baba plz, everyone already knows what you did.
>>143751361
Probably not cause the average anime fan is immensely dumb and uninformed about tons of things despite information being more readily available than ever nowadays. Its astonishing how little attention people pay to things right in front of their face like the screen with Episode 00 in big block letters and the fact that it's clearly the shit that happened to Alisha before the start of the game from her perspective
>Yuri bait fujos baba baba yuri bair Fujobait baba baba baba fujos yuri bait baba bait
This shows doesn't need threads on /a/ I'd say though who knows maybe in future weeks somebody might actually discuss the actual anime instead of whatever the fuck these threads have been for the prologue
>>143753965
Alishafags follow their dicks.
Rosefags follow their hearts.
How good were the Symphonia OVAS? That will give me leeway on how well this will be.
>>143754158
Thing is, the threads have been 95% players of the game. Thus spoilers and /v/ everywhere.
/a/ is also pretty straight with its tastes and waifus rule the board for the most part- and thus fujos want to stomp all over it. If it's something openly homo like Osomatsu-san, they kind of settle their way in. But a lot of /a/nons haven't even been given the chance to see the series proper before they decided to be the very vocal minority and terrorize others. At least, that's how I see it.
>>143754474
>720p
Tell your onii-chan to upgrade your goddamn PC.
Is best girl already in ?
>>143754474
>sexualizing the purest of the pure
Filthy whore. I hope you get fucked by that fat business man/politician real hard.
>the random loli dies just to continue Zestiria's bizarre fetish for killing children
>>143751405
Don't forget that Dezel essentially fucked Rose in her sleep for years to get her that pure and literally no-one has a problem with this.
>>143754519
>>143754584
Why are you under the impression I took that screenshot?
>>143755034
Why are you under the impression that I was talking about you.
did you actually like the prologue guys? as someone without any knowledge of the game i thought it was pretty fucking great for a first episode.
>>143755263
It's giving me false hope that Rose won't be sidelined.
Why aren't they all wearing school uniforms yet?
>>143755309
Did I say Rose? I meant Alisha.
>>143755309
You mean Alisha
>>143755353
wait,she's not mc/side-protag?
thinking about it for a sec, of course the mc is whatever twat pulls excalibur, or whatever they call it in that universe, how could i be so silly.
is it even a likeable twat or is it one of the blank sheet guys that you're supposed to project into throughout the game?
>>143755085
>replies to post
>not talking about the poster
>>143751361
Not them, haven't touched this tales games at all, but this prologue was a cluster fuck and quite honestly terrible.
>>143755458
>wait,she's not mc/side-protag?
No she only appears in the first 1/4 of the game or so. We'll see what the anime does with her.
>>143753714
remove shotas
>>143755458
Sorey is perfect in every imaginable way you ignorant piece of shit.
>>143755458
>is it even a likeable twat or is it one of the blank sheet guys that you're supposed to project into throughout the game?
generic good guy
>>143754559
Soon anon.
>>143755675
I want to give her properly fitted footwear
>>143755525
>she only appears in the first 1/4 of the game or so
well shit. you'd think the princess of whateverland would've been an important character. we'll just have to wait and see how the anime handles her, as you said.
>>143755572
>generic good guy
i at least hope the rest of the main cast has some interest to them and are not just stereotypical archetypes, otherwise i suspect i'm in for a snoozefest.
why do people keep talking like they'll follow the plot 1:1 past the prologue?
>at ufotable meeting room
>I have a great idea on how to handle the anime guys, let's do the same exact fucking thing that caused a bigger meltdown than Fukushima
>>143755458
Alisha was a side character that's barely relevant at all.
Sorey is literally Jesus. He's unbelievably boring by himself until like that last 5 minutes.
The red head Rose, the co-protagonist, is also pretty boring but has a semblance of a personality unlike Sorey.
Half the seraphs are what's actually good in terms of characters. Loli is the bully. Blue fag is the straight man. Shirtless bro pervert. Red long haired girl brings order but is the silliest. Dark and edgy hat guy is boring as fuck though.
>>143755507
I was talking about Alisha, the getting fucked by the politician bit should've tipped you off.
>>143755458
Sorey is okay, it's Rose that's a minor annoyance. Aleshia is forced out of the party due to two things:1. Due to suspicion of using her relationship with Sorey to expand her political influence and framing by a very corrupt government she is temporarily put under house arrest and Sorey is sent off to war, splitting up the two.2. Due to her low aptitude for seeing the paranormal and interacting with it her becoming Sorey's squire ate away at his spiritual power and stunted his growth, as well as gradually robbed him of his senses and some motor abilities. Later on when Sorey has grown much stronger by getting the powers from the 4 trials she is capable of joining without there being any drawbacks to Sorey.She is ultimately forced to leave after rejoining because of her duty to her country and emotional turmoil following a certain event that shattered her resolve. Which is a shame because she had the best chemistry with Sorey and was a possible love interest. There's even one skit where Sorey sees her getting dressed.
Also the sword is irrelevant, it's an item that serves as proof of a contract and a catalyst for the Armatized form, there are 4 in total.
>>143755748
She made it properly fit. And its part of her appeal.
>>143755458
Oh yeah and another thing,Sorey has trust issues and believes that the shepherd's duty is a burden only he should have to bear and this is a theme throughout most of the game. At the very end when you believe he's gotten over all that, he abandons Rose and fights the final battle alone.
>>143755941
The actual reason Alisha was kicked out is that Baba wanted Rose in her place though. All that silly plot justifications is the writer trying to make it work.
>>143755767
Well Sorey has a personality so he isn't really a character that can be used to self insert. His main problem is that he has no character development or character arc.
>>143756076
It was Aizen who refitted them.
>>143755748
>wanting to take her brother's shoes away from her
No.
>>143756159
>>143755941
>>143756113
Sounds not-bad enough that ufotable visuals will carry it through even if it gets stale at some point
>>143756176
will onii-chan fug the edge out of velvet
>yfw velvets sole purpose in the anime is to mercy kill him
Will Velvet save Zestiria?
>>143756352
>they're taking that away from Zavied
What? No, fuck that. Velvet can be the lord of calamity. God knows she fits the role.
>>143755913
At most it'll be the story as it would have been originally without Baba plus Velvet.
In other words
>((Zestiria - Rose + Alisha) + Velvet)
>>143756159
Zestiria is in a weird position where the worldbuilding as it's set up means none of the characters can go through development without immediately transforming into monsters.
An interesting game to play is picturing how long any other Tales protag could last in Glenwood without turning into a hellion. Most of them don't survive the first few hours.
>>143756504
Luke would be okay. Yuri and Asbel wouldn't last a day though.
>>143756504
>>143756623
As long as they believe they did the right thing they'll be fine.
>>143756623
Long-haired Luke has way too many negative emotions and mental hang-ups not to turn into a hellion quickly, while short-hair Luke has the whole Akzeriuth thing.
>>143756646
Deluding oneself may also lead to corruption. Lailah said so in that skit about Seraphs not needing to eat, but going fat from over eating.
>>143756646
No other Tales character goes the entire game without questioning if they're doing the right thing.
Even Yuri expresses doubt as to whether or not his methods are correct.
>>143756504
The way how they made malevolence work in Zestiria makes for shitty world building overall as it means that only really a sociopath or the woefully ignorant could live in and not turn into a hellion.
I'm not even sure that they'll keep the mechanics of malevolence for Berseria.
>>143756749
But then you have people like Rose abs that priest who are pure because they believe that they did the right thing by killing people.
>>143756782
The fact Velvet can even exist as a character and remain sentient suggests the mechanics are different.
>>143756623
>>143756769
Yuri practically takes the hellion route in his own universe. I think Sorey is the most mentally sound protag through all Tales.
>>143756646
I think Velvet would survive in that case.
>>143753736
>what? all I see is some KA work and director for the unremarkable Symphonia OVAs.
You missed Ninja Nonsense
>>143756749
>>143756769
It's not an instant on/off switch. Some characters in Zestiria expressed hellion-inducing emotions but they didn't go through it since it wasn't sustained. In fact, there was only one character that goes into the hellion transformation quickly and it was mentioned that it's extremely rare for that to happen.
>>143756904
Yeah, it took Aizen over a thousand years to reach dragon status.
>>143756846
I still find luke a better MC then Sorey is. He's more intresting.
>>143756846
The thing is that Yuri believes that what he did is right. The only problem with him is that he regrets not having another option. And it's not until post-game that he even starts thinking about that in any sort of depth.
>>143756846
Sorey is sound only because he's never really challenged, he just does as he's told like a good boy.
>>143750679
Hey girlie wanna play twister?
>>143757035
I find almost all other MCs in Tales games better than Sorey. The game honestly would be shit with characters if it weren't for the female cast.
>>143756842
That's a wise thing to do because the mechanics of malevolence was just shitty to begin with.
>>143757072
The female cast of Zestiria weren't anything to write home to either.
>>143757072
The female cast is garbage. The only thing that makes Zestiria stand out is the blatant BL between Sorey and Mikleo.
>>143757180
Well at least lailah and edna were nice .
>>143757290
And even then they are weak. Honestly, I think liked Sergey better than the main cast. At least he tries to solve humans problems and the universe doesnt bend its way to fuck him up.
Rose will marry Sorey. Sergei will make sure of that.
The only Tales game I've played through to completion is Symphonia
I tried to get into Zestiria but couldn't get into the semi turn based combat system
I found the story interesting and wanted to enjoy it more but found playing it to be an actual chore.
If I watch the anime will I be filled in or will I have to go autistically watch a playthrough?
>>143757180
>>143757290
Lailah and Edna were great. And I actually like Rose.
To be honest, the only party that isn't mediocre in Tales games is Vesperia's so that may have something to do with it.
>>143757340
Lsilah suffered from the same problems as Sorey, and Edna was irrelevant.
>>143757072
>if it weren't for the female cast.
As if. Zaveid easily had the most stand out personality out of everyone, Edna was best for bullying and being an old lady in a loli body, and Lailah was the team mom, and that's it. No one else had anything particularly memorable as an individual. Which is a shame because as much as I hate Graces, every character had something about them that I'll remember and can compare to other characters. Sorey and Mikleo alone aren't fascinating, but together they make an interesting pair.
>>143757428
I'm ok with that. I always thought that Sergei ended up fucking Alisha anyway.
>>143757461
>Edna was irrelevant
I fight you.
>>143757428
Rose is dead
I want to play Xillia but I don't have a PS3. I do have a PS4,Vita and a gaming PC so any hope for a port ?
>>143757583GLOP
>>143757567
It's true and you know it, Edna was irrelevant.
>>143757672
Not in my book.
>>143757749
That's why I'm talking about the story not your heart.
>>143757487
Sergei has no interest in Alisha beyond their cooperation to improve relations with Ladylake.
>>143757475
Basically this, it's annoying because you realize that with a bit of development, the characters would become very memorable. But because of shitty world building that's impossible.
So if you doubt your actions you turn into a monster? Damn, every single tales of protag would be fucked. Cless doubted that he could beat Dhaos or that his actions that lead to his village getting slaughtered and leaving Chester behind to face Dhaos wrath alone was good
Senel,Kyle,Asbel, Reid, Vague, Emil,Lloyd, Mio,Mel, Kanonno, Ludger,Jude, Ruka, Cailus, Luke and Kanonno's grassvally and earlheart all had doubts in themselves at one point or another.
>>143758250
Basically almost every Tales character would become a hellion, that's why Zestiria is so shit in the character department, because the characters can't question themselves. They're stuck in a rut and are unable to grow.
>>143758250
It's not that easy, though. You can doubt your actions but you can't be consumed in those doubts. Tales MCs usually have the support to not end up in that situation.
>>143758394
Considering that the support that's needed is basically, someone telling them to stop thinking about their doubts at all, instead of actually working through them. They'd still turn into hellions.
>>143758344
>They're stuck in a rut and are unable to grow.
Unless I missed it, just how fast does someone turn into a hellion? The world makes it seem like if you're not good for Santa 24/7 then you're immediately marked as a monster. But with the other protags a lot of their conflicts revolve around it being ok to make mistakes or be angry as long as you don't let them consume you. For Zest it seems like as soon as you feel an ounce of negativity, you're just done.
>>143758250
>So if you doubt your actions you turn into a monster?
It's not doubt that turns people into hellions, it's more like escapism.
>i kill people
>deep down I know that's wrong
>but I'll just pretend I'm in the right
Rose has immunity because she isn't pretending she is in the right, she's abusing the grey morality of killing the few to save the many.
>>143759002
Rose's explanation is that she genuinely believes that she's right to kill people, that she has the right to play, judge, jury and excutioneer. In other words Rose isn't taking advantage of the grey morality, she's a straight up sociopath.
Then you've also got that priest as well, and also that little girl. It seems as though it's not just doubt that turns people into hellions but rather negative emotions in general.
Who /Best Girl/ here?
>>143759196
Baba pls
>>143758250
No, malevolence is all about knowing that you're doing something bad and trying to ignore it.
>>143759237
>be immortal
>don't want to age or get sick ever
>but no that's wrong
>turn into hellion for not wanting to live like an immortal being
>>143759237
Not really, in the game just feeling too much negative emotions was enough to turn people into hellions. Remember that girl who was bullied, and turned into a hellion? Hell the cardinal, also truly did believe that she was doing the right thing as well, yet she still became a hellion, or even Hedalf, who got that way out of just loneliness.
The entire concept was poorly defined, but it wasn't all about doubts.
>>143753967
I've seen others speculate it was Go Kimura's work though, since Matsushima isn't credited for key animation.
>>143759196
Rose a best.
>>143759415
The Cardinal was willfully turning people to stone and trying to rule in place of the royalty. Heldalf blamed everyone but himself for what happened to him.
>>143759415
It was never spelled out is all. It basically symbolized a person's state of mental health.
>>143755941
>Which is a shame because she had the best chemistry with Sorey and was a possible love interest
You wished.
>>143759836
And yet, the cardianl did truly believe that she was right, just like how Rose, believes that she should be the one to act as judge jury and executioner. If you say she became a hellion for acting above her station, then the same should have happened to Rose as well. Why right does a mere assassin have to act as judge, jury and executioner. Heldalf ultimately became a hellion out of lonliness, after everyone he knew died and he couldn't commit suicide, this was outright stated.
>>143759921
Again, not really, as you have characters like Symonne, and Rose, who aren't exactly pictures of mental health, yet never became hellions. What brings about malevolence in Zestiria is basically just negative emotions on a whole.
>>143755941
You mean the skit where Sorey was only interested in her amor, and not Alisha herself? Or are you talking about the fact that he's only interest in her lied solely in the fact that she was the first human that he'd ever met? Because Sorey himself, doesn't give a shit about Alisha outside of that.
>>143760204
Every thread
>>143760244
He also shit talks her behind her back, why anyone would think they have chemistry is beyond me.
>>143751127
I really don't understand what edge-Milla is doing in this show.
>>143760204
She also liked the history book.
Wait, Velvet is in the anime?
>>143754262
Baba kill yourself.
>>143760664
>>143760244
I don't get it.
>>143760669
But not to the extent of Sorey and Mikleo, even she finds their passion to be too much. She believes in it yes, but more as a bible, not as something as something to research, like Sorey and Mikleo do.
Also seriously one of the optional conversations is Sorey calling her a fuck up.
>>143750679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3YGdPMl-2w
>>143750679
How come the tornado sucked the loli but not her even though their distance was like 100 meters?
>>143760792
>Sorey calling her a fuck up
lolwat
Summarize/context pls
![[BudLightSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 00 [720p].mkv_snapshot_20.34_[2016.07.03_17.23.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EYOfqNq.jpg "[BudLightSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 00 [720p].mkv_snapshot_20.34_[2016.07.03_17.23.03].jpg")
>>143760813
She was holding on to something.
>>143753714
So this is just a rehash of Jude and Milla?
>>143760813
>>143760873
It's a spear stabbed in the ground.
Realistically it should probably have snapped given that it appears to have been a dragon causing the mess.
>>143760892
Jude wasn't a shota.
>>143760892
She's Jude and Milla's daughter
>>143760789
Basically It's implied Alisha wanted to spend more time with Sorey but he didn't notice and he didn't care. In a skit after this, everyone laughs at how 'the shepherd isn't very good with women' all smug.
>>143760768
That mniskirt is not nearly ripped enough. Not enough belts either.
>>143760792
Yeah, the game never elaborates on her ruin nerdiness beyond her knowing about the bible. It made her seem like a fake fan in comparison.
The anime also has her give the bible to that girl instead of keeping it while only silently believing that the Shepherd legend exists.
>>143760841
An optional side quest, you find out that some one bigwig in Ladylake is making secret deals with Rowlance, you come to the conclusion that they're exchanging information that they may just be a traitor. Alisha finds out too, and confronts them during their rendevaous, only to find out that it wasn't what you thought at all. And Alisha is reprimanded and then told to write a letter of apology to the noble.
One of Sorey's optional conversations with Rose after the event is him literally going "Wow, Alisha really messed up didn't she?"
![[BudLightSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 00 [720p].mkv_snapshot_07.05_[2016.07.05_19.21.55].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5nfeIqR.jpg "[BudLightSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 00 [720p].mkv_snapshot_07.05_[2016.07.05_19.21.55].jpg")
I thought Rose's guild did research before trying to mindlessly murder rich people.
>>143761096
>self-defense
>mindless murder
Pick one
>>143761212
>self-defense
>>143761212
Self defense they ambushed her with the intention of killing her, then again they pulled the same shit with Sorey as well. So the anime wasn't off with that depiction at all.
>>143761085
>It made her seem like a fake fan in comparison.
I just figured she was religious, as opposed to Sorey's obsession with anthropology.
>>143751485
My Prospitian compatriot
>>143761085
She doesn't have any ruin nerdiness, it's simply put religious belief, but to Sorey he's interest in the study of it and the history surrounding it.
It's like the difference between a devout christian and a archeologist studying the history of Christianity and the bible. Their similarities are merely superficial.
>ufotable anime
>not type shit
Picked up so hard it reached the ceiling.
>>143760972
50 hours in ms paint for you anon.
I want to fuck Rose's seiyuu
>>143761424
But in game, Alisha admits to having read the record herself like Sorey did and being intrigued by it. The fact that this is never developed made it seem like she wasn't a ruin nerd like I thought they were setting it up to be.
I do agree that's what Alisha is though.
>>143755263
It was good that they started the anime off with Alisha. It was bad since it was just more of her suffering. Will it ever end? But are they going for an anime original story?
So who is gonna replacing Miyu Matsuki in voicing Lailah?
>>143760669
fucking homo fagboi was a mistake
>>143761584
Noriko Shitaya
Is it "the cross" or "the ecks"
>>143761579
>Will it ever end?
It will end after a few episodes when she's put on a bus. They'll keep talking shit about her though.
>>143761614
I see, she's replacing her in Illya as well. I guess she has some sort of bonding with Miyu?
>>143760813
Even the tornado doesn't want Alisha.
>>143761664
The X is silent.
>>143761664
Cross. For the others the japanese always use EX instead.
>>143761611
Homo fagboi was the game's greatest achievement
>>143761664
It's cross. The producers confirmed it's a crossover afterall.
>>143761572
She thought that their interest in it was the same but it really wasn't. You immediately begin to see the difference the minute you come across a ruin, Alisha's reaction is to pray, Sorey's reaction is to study it.
She also becomes exasperated when she hears Sorey talk about ruins too. I think that they were always setting up the two of them not really having a lot in common despite their initial appearances. Which to be fair, Rose is even worse in this area.
But even if Alisha had stayed they probably still wouldn't have ended up together.
>>143761684
Don't lie, it never ends.
![[HorribleSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.42_[2016.07.06_09.46.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tSg1M7E.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.42_[2016.07.06_09.46.06].jpg")
Why does the furryfag want to fuck Alisha so bad?
>>143761856
Depends on where they're going with Alisha's suffering. If it's not to make her retain a better role than she did, then this suffering will be laughable in retrospect.
Of course Maltran still has to try to kill her eventually so there's that.
But I generally think they will do better by her /u/bait her and Rose the right way. The OP, the promo image and ED is setting them up as equals.
>>143761933
Not enough to do it while he had the chance apparently.
Rose is fine, the problem isn't Rose herself. The problem is how the game and the characters treat Rose. It would have been far more interesting to give her an actual character arc leading up to her eventually becoming the new JRPG Jesus instead of her being treated as righteous and perfect from beginning to end.
>>143761933
He wants to murder her so Rose senpai will pet him and tell him he's a good assassin.
His VA does a good job of making him annoying and hate-able.
>>143762117
>>143761684
Wasn't the plan not to write her out of the anime version?
>>143761933
What the fuck was up with that scene with Lunarre vs Symonne?
>>143761537
Mmm, still needs bandages. But a good effort
>>143761856
If she ever gets into a crossover game is there anybody in any other tales of she could get along with? Like how Emil and Luka got along well until their alter egos came out and started fighting, I still remember when Shing and Kohaku got their christening into the franchise by meeting Barabatos.
>>143762234
We don't know what the plan is in the anime version. The fact that Velvet is a major character changes everything.
>>143762117
Pretty much this, I think they plan to keep Alisha but ultimately it will be so that they can pair her off with Rose.
>>143762174
No that would make her even worse. What they needed to do was call her out for her actions and philosophy, or make her face the consequences of them.
>>143761933
Koyasu was on point this episode. Great performance.
>>143762182
He reminds me a lot of Caesar Clown. Made for you to hate, but I just can't.
>>143762174
By the time Dezel leaves the party I was done with her as a character. I wasn't too affected with the marketing switch, but I'd rather have Natalia 2.0 over "everything I say and do is right forever."
>>143762297
I'm thinking they just bring her up as a history lesson or flashback as they explain her significance in the scheme of things.
>>143762272
That's what the white on her arm was originally for.
I get the feeling that they're going to rewrite the Alisha/Rose elements of the story, mainly because they're already setting-up some kind of conflict/relationship between Rose and Alisha's ideologies... which never even came up in the game. It could be interesting, nobody ever called out Rose on being a killer because Sorey is autistic and the Seraphims totally detached from the world but Alisha would really get into a proper conflict with her.
>>143762413
I'm for it. Alisha vs Rose was already a thing. Let's make it official.
>>143762413
They tried that with the DLC episode but it really felt like Rose hated the shit out of Alisha for no reason. I was honestly surprised it didn't get as far as Rose putting a collar on her and demand complete and total servitude to Rose.
>>143762334
Alisha getting paired up with Rose may be good for Rose's character since Alisha would actually be in conflict with her.
>>143762413
That would be great, I also hope that they bring back their original idea for Sorey and Mikleo.
>>143762413
I await their cat fight on the inn floor when it all boils over.
>>143762117
>Maltran
Everything about Maltran was stupid. Like when she steals the sword that's supposed to be able to destroy the world that is never mentioned again. Or when she tells the party that they're terrible people for keeping the fact she's a hellion from Alisha and they don't even try to argue the point. Or that she has no reason to support Heldalf's plans.
>>143762627
What is it?
>>143750679
It's fine. Captain oblivious will come along and charm her vagina so hard she doesn't care about anything else in life.
>>143762698
Why did that happen anyway? I saw the webms but people say it was suppose to be a serious thing why they were fighting.
>>143762704
Maltran just wanted to watch the world burn, making Alisha break and suffer was just a bonus.
>>143762413
It'll start out a conflict but end out in lesbianism. I just hope it's better than the DLC.
>>143762614
She didn't hate her. Rose was being a dick to her in order to protect her feelings about what happened to Sorey. Which makes no sense given how mad Alisha got over Rose telling they weren't friends.
>>143762854
Alisha x Rose hatesex doujin when?
>>143762775
Rose wouldn't tell Alisha what happened to Sorey and just kept insulting her, Alisha just kinda snapped.
>>143762614
They tried it in the DLC but it falls apart because Rose exerts total control over Alisha by being both the source of her power and withholding information Alisha desperately wants out of spite. They're supposedly 'friends' by the end of it but it's basically one long string of Rose emotionally abusing Alisha until Alisha loses her patience and this apparently makes them best buds.
Rose changing the title Sorey gave Alisha just because she was jealous it sounded better than hers was also really bad.
>>143762807
Waste of a milf. She'd be better off pulling a Legretta and just wanted Heldalf's cat man penis the way Legretta wanted Van.
>>143762724
Some parts of it are still there. But Sorey and Mikleo originally were more proactive in their goal to create a bridge for humans and seraphs. In fact originally Sorey was supposed to call out Lailah on her only caring about Seraphim problems. It seems though Sorey and Mikleo originally did work towards achieving their dream. Which would explain some of the abrupt ends to a few of the sidequests, where the seraphim basically abandon their posts without any real care.
>>143750679
I really hope they go full anime original with the plot. The game's plot was so unbelievably boring.
>>143762912
>hatesex
Well doujins exist but it's of Alisha desperately making love to Rose while crying.
>>143762704
Just one of Zesty's many faults. Hopefully the anime shows her motivations beyond making Alisha suffer.
Why the fuck is this so God damn gorgeous?
>>143762980
Symonne is the one who wanted Heldalf's cat penis. For whatever reason.
>>143763031
Godtable finds a way
>>143763056
Remember when Symonne threw a dumb pity party for herself and the best reply Sorey could come up with was
>Uh... it's okay if you're evil?
>>143762854
That's from the ED?
>>143762854
>>143762936
Is Rose socially retarded? Because I fail to see the logic in insulting Alisha and saying they were never friends and acting like she hated her would make her feel better then knowing that Sorey would never see her. That'd be like Stahn completely and utterly forgetting Leon after what happened to him and acting like he never existed. God, Leon died one of the worst deaths a party member can get drowning.
>>143763031
Ufotable knows how to pretty picture.
>>143762912
http://exhentai.org/g/897898/84c9338a0d/
This is the only one you'll get. Enjoy your BL doujins instead
>>143763123
>Is Rose socially retarded
She's a sociopath, what do you think.
>>143763031
People keep saying that but I don't think it looks too incredible.
F/SN:UBW looks gorgeous but Zestiria... maybe it's just the art style, but it feels too bright and bland to me, especially the whole wasteland chase scene.
>>143763105
Wasn't that after her second boss or something? When she tries to grab onto Sorey for ruining her fun and he was like "yeah I don't care, bye."
>>143763123
>>143763191
>the only Tales protagonist who's allowed to kill people without being judged
>everyone finds her insufferable
What did Baba mean by this?
>>143763191
Is she at least the funny kind like in American Psycho?
>>143763056
Kitty beard gave her a reason to live, everyone else apparently thought she was a shitter or something.
>>143763206
I can get why people didn't like the wasteland chase, but I found it great how disorienting it seemed
>>143763238
No she's just a bitch who murders people and then tells other people that murder is wrong.
>>143763123
It's forced drama. The DLC had to have SOMETHING in it and Rose simply telling Alisha the truth without any conflict wasn't good enough for Scamco. Nevermind the dungeons were rehashed garbage and had a weird difficulty spike.
>>143763231
>What did Baba mean by this?
It means he's a retard.
>>143763267
>Did you guys see that priest, going around murdering people without a care in the world. What a sicko, that's messed up. Now excuse me while I go murder this merchant crime lord.
>Sasuga Rose-san!
>>143763344
>One of your party members becomes arggo towards another for flimsy reasons
>Shit dungeons with the same enemies but with an increase in difficulty to make them last longer.
>Other party members are more or less pushed into the background
Is this Bamco's "The Answer"?
>>143763252
>Kitty beard
So is Heldalf the least threatening Tales antagonist? I have no reason to take him seriously when everyone gives him pet nicknames and you never really see him that much. Yggdrasil wore a white onsee but his importance to the story and general presence had me worried when he did show up because I didn't know if an unwinnable fight was or wasn't going to happen.
>>143762360
>Fellow Caesar fan
You have glorious taste my friend.
>>143763544
>Alisha gains Rose's powers, which were Sorey's
>Shitty forced conflict
>Shitty difficulty curve
>Brain dead dungeons
Yes. It's exactly like that. But at the very least Yukari apologized. Rose didn't even have to.
Mikleo is Zesty's Aigis though. An Aigis who actually won because Sorey did not die.
>>143763659
How can you take Yggdrasil seriously once you realize he's just a brat who's dressing like a grown-up? Embarrassing, especially when he loses and sulks away.
>>143763544
>Is this Bamco's "The Answer"?
But "The Answer" was actually good you mongoloid faggot fuckfence go climb a turd and eat it.
Quit trying to justify being too much of a pussy to abuse all-out-attacks every fight.
>>143763772
Not only a brat, but a siscon as well who is throwing a fit
>>143763659The final fight was kinda underwhelming if you did the Turtlez sidequest since the dark Turtle you fight is twenty levels above Heldalf.
>>143763659
Zagi. Everybody was annoyed by that jackass every time he showed up and not once was he ever in a position to "win" or kill anybody. Even if he had managed to jump Flynn we know he's more then capable of kicking his ass. I love how Yuri just walked up to him while he was ranting about fighting Yuri some more and just knocked him off the tartarus completely with a cold look and the party just expresses relieve that he's finally gone and what an annoyance he was. There really hasn't been a good stalking boss since Barbatos and even then that's because that guy was not only a threat he rage quitted life when Kyle defeated him all alone.
>>143763772
And that's exactly why I chose to compare him to Heldalf. I was able to take a child throwing a 1000 year tantrum with some level of concern over him.
>>143763838
>return to first ruins
>Angel hellion
>everyone just dies
>mfw
>>143763952
You make a good point. I meant more of the final boss though. Like Lambda, Van, and to a certain extent Alexei even though he wasn't the final boss.
Give the players Indignation back you hacks.
>>143764404
Baba gave them plenty of indignation
So Velvet is in the anime? Huh. She's pretty much already "corrupted", isn't she?
>>143763952
I wish we fought Chronos more. Every fight I had with him was really tough.
>>143764629
I will corrupt her with my dick
>>143763659
Creed just wanted rock pussy and was too butt blasted to admit he fucked up.
>>143763659
And who is the most threatening Tales antagonist? Dhaos will always be my favorite one but he isn't the most threatening.
>>143764629
If Rose tries anything she's going to get BTFO
>>143764649
I still remember when the game was released and people were bitching about the first encounter with him. Those were fun times.
>>143763056
This girl was pretty great. Hoping to see more of her.
>>143764748
I suppose threatening is a bad word. Just someone that isn't the source of complete ridicule I guess? Van and Gaius come to mind though. Wasn't scared of them, but they were presented as serious and were respectable as characters. Their presence in the game itself made them memorable and interesting. Gaius wasn't even evil, but still a threat to the party.
>>143761701
Nah, shes next.
>>143765195
That would require some role expanding that all Heldalf's minions desperately need, and hopefully get.
>>143764519
I feel bad for laughing at that.
>>143765319
Gaius riding in with the Mana Cannon and Muzet to fuck up Maxwell was top tier serious business.
>>143760892
And Jude and Milla was already a rehash of Lightning and Hope
>>143761812
>I think that they were always setting up the two of them not really having a lot in common despite their initial appearances. Which to be fair, Rose is even worse in this area
Rose was Sorey's foil, she was supposed to be his opposite. This kind of characters tend to be males so Rose isn't love interest material
>>143765988
>strong, older female character and young boy
>rehash
Yeah because it's not like it's ever existed in a plot ever.
