Is hayate the strongest Nanoha?
She's a walking nuke, but slow and unskilled, therefore useless for direct combat.
She only has huge mana and OP spells, nothing else.
Yes.
Source: my penis
>>143716186
This basically. She's meant to fight alongside her knights because they can take the heat off her while she nukes shit. She can't get much done on her own.
>>143715124
Lesbian Jesus is
>>143718209
In fairness, once she starts lobbing those nukes, it's really hard to stop her effectively.
I want to impregnate wheelchair Hayate.
>>143715124
Nanoha or Signum are probably the strongest in actual combat. While their nuking capability isn't quite as good as Hayate, it's still damn impressive and all the rest of their combat abilities are light years ahead.
>>143720997
That depends on what you actual define as "actual combat", all the strong mages in the series are more or less specialized in something, and are more suited for different kinds of battle scenarios, overall Hayate has the higher power leveled, followed by Nanoha and Fate, and then Signum. In straight 1v1 duels or sparring Signum seems to have the advantage since she is very strong at close range combat and can tank and get close to her opponents with ease, I can only see Fate being more suited for this kind of battle but I don't think we will never see her seriously sparring with anyone anymore, or having a real 1v1 fight against a strong opponent for that matter.
In terms of firepower alone, yes.
She's very powerful, but relegated to rear support roles because she's a nuclear bomber that cannot do normal combat at all and her spells take forever to go off.
She's powerful if she has fighters on the front keeping the enemy busy and buying her time for her spells to be ready.
The reason why the Yagamis are stated to be unstoppable in a team battle in Vivid is simply due to how well they are as a team. The roles they have would probably go like this
>Front attacker: Vita/Signum
>Guard wing: Zafira
>Center guard: Shamal
>Rear support: Hayate/Rein
Their strategy would simply be "Buy time for Hayate to nuke the field", and this is made even better by the fact that Signum and Vita are tanky as fuck and decently fast so its not easy to get past them to attack Shamal, much less Hayate.
Nanoha and Fate is more well-rounded, with Nanoha leaning towards shooting and being more tanky and Fate leaning towards melee and being fast with minimal protection for more fast.
Posting royalty in a tanuki thread.
Given that this is a Nanoha thread, I'll ask this: Triangle Heart 3 translation when?
>>143726713
Given that we only just barely got Vivid subs, probably never ever.
>>143726758
Wait, the Vivid anime isn't fully subbed?
>>143728449
Nah. A kind anon subbed it as it aired.
He was a great man.
>>143715124
And cutest.
>>143731298
Sorry, but Vita is cutest
>>143728915
And what did you mean by "barely" then?
>>143731387
Not that anon.
The person who subbed Vivid nearly gave up on it several times, but kept at it when it was clear no one else was going to do it
>>143715124
Yuri Eberwein > Reinforce Eins > Lord Dearche > Hayate
>>143724093
Anon you need to play GoD.
>>143719271
Yeah, it's not just nuking, she provides the full ICBM delivery package. And that was without unison.
>>143718209
or she could approach with a spaceship and start nuking things from orbit. first mover advantage and the ultimate high ground: a gravity well.
>>143715124
I like Hayate very much, but her rank is composite and not air.
You cannot directly relate the two of them.
Air is supposed to be a direct indicator of combat ability with a usual +- room for error.
Composite ranks are based on thing like unnatural high amounts of mana and other stuff that do not necessarily translate into direct combat ability and can mean that a SSS composite can lose to an A air rank.
>>143720997
See this guy >>143721640
He has a good point.
They are all suited to different kinds of battle.
For example Fate lacks defense so much a single hit can kill her, but for that her base speed is in Force already at lightspeed (they have a short extra page after she protected Nanoha from the Axe guy that teleports, who at first thinks she is actually a teleporter, but then corrects himself to her being just as fast as light, this was in her base form without augmentations).
Hayate has a round ____
>>143718209
But the knights are a part of her power. So she has 3 tanks and a healer protecting her while she's throwing those nukes.
So yes, overall she's by far the most powerful.
>>143732667
And whatever Reinforce is
Fate is the best
>>143732667
>But the knights are a part of her power.
Were. The guardian knight system is fading and they're simply sticking with her because she's part of the family and because they're made of 110% loyalty.
Besides being defense programs and weapons of mass destruction they're also people.
>>143732595
fetish.
>>143731871
I did.
GoD Hayate was trained by Eins on how to manage her massive mana pool and all.
Normal Hayate never got the training.
The real strongest is really extreme characters like Yuri(Who has an indestructible WMD in her) and Eins herself(Who is a WMD).
>>143715124
no, because fate could *teleports behind*
*stabs her in the back* pssss nothing personel kid.
>>143734761
Case and point.
Yuri Eberwein > Reinforce Eins > Lord Dearche > Hayate(sync with Zwei)
>>143738536
>Lord Dearche > Hayate(sync with Zwei)
Which timeline's Hayate are you talking about?
Because While the Materials are probably stronger than their counterparts in BoA, by the time of GoD, I'd but them on the same level.
In other words:
Lord Dearche = GoD Hayate > Main timeline Hayate
>>143733429
Since people are talking about GoD in this thread I was wondering, are the Knights fading in that timeline too like they are in the main one?
I mean, the original Book of the Night Sky is still around, so they could just have Eins reattach them too it after the battle with the Defense Program, right?
>>143741119
The Knights themselves aren't fading. Just the connection to Hayate from the book is.
>>143715124
If you ignore the fanfiction-tier stuff in the PSP games, then yeah.
But as it happens the narration might still throw win more powerful adversaries as needed. Eclipse users, ad-hoc boosts for story puproses, you know how it works.
>>143728915
Yeah, and he did a pretty good job, so in the end, it was probably way more worth than if FFF or such group continued. To think we here told him that he doesn't have to do it anymore when first FFF episode got released.
Hahaha we made such fools of ourselves.
i think a jeremiah could beat Yuri in a duel
>>143741119
They aren't fading.
They are just becoming less connected to Hayate, if anything disastrous happens to them, Hayate cannot reboot the Guardian Knight program(Like she did when she renamed the Book) to bring them back.
The connection to Hayate fading also meant that they are recovering from their injuries slower(Presumably due to the drop in extra magic coming from Hayate), also when the connection goes out completely, Hayate most probably won't even be able to instinctively tell that one of the her knights is severely wounded like she did for Shamal and Zafira when they went down in StrikerS.
One interesting to note about Hayate is that her mana pool is so big, she was presumably giving extra power to the 4 knights(who had their own linker core and everything) via the link to them, and her mana pool is apparently not at all affected by that.
>>143742168
>power levels bait
>>143741101
Signum makes me feel things
>>143742004
So does every character who gets thrown away work for the library?
>>143741119
The only person that is arguably fading in GoD was most probably Eins.
Eins herself, who previously was a powerhouse, was so weak that Vita was beating the shit out of her by the end of BoA.
Do you love Vita?
>>143741604
>>143742282
Okay, then can that be fixed by Eins and the original book still being around?
>>143715124
Nah Dearche has her outclassed.
Though Hayate is the most dangerous molester.
>>143743159
They're on roughly the same level by the end of GoD
Fate is my waifu.
>>143743747
Nanoha please, this is a Hayate thread.
>>143743747
Fate a cutie
>>143744676
i want to commit a crime
>>143742004
Subbing an entire show alone is most definitely no small task. I wouldn't recommend anyone try it themselves so no one who doubted me was a fool. They just didn't realize how insane I am. I think FFF figured it out when I released that silly Star Wars parody trailer alongside ep4's subs.
>>143728915
Very flattering.
>>143745876
i really want to make a recut of Strikers but i know it'd be a ridiculous amount of work
not like i haven't gone to such lengths for nanoha before
>>143742677
I love patting her.
>>143744255
Nanoha is not my waifu.
>>143745692
Same here
>>143746284
Well, I guess that means you aren't Fate.
I want to pat her head
>>143747094
why is she eating yogurt with her finger
that seems messy
>>143747137
>Yogurt
Sure lets go with that
>>143747258
What are you trying to say here
>>143746558
Considering Fate is my waifu, I can hardly be her.
>>143747385
>Considering Fate is my waifu
And that's why I called you Nanoha.
>>143747322
he's implying that it's actually light frosting which isnt as healthy as yoghurt
>>143747530
Why would you do that?
>>143747580
dang
you gotta keep your f8o healthy
>>143747732
Because the show at times heavily implies a romantic relationship between Fate and Nanoha. Thus, it is humorous to claim that people who call Fate their waifu are in fact Nanoha, or vice versa.
>>143747884
>Because the show at times heavily implies a romantic relationship between Fate and Nanoha.
There is none.
I want to do things to this cat
>>143748519
I want to fill her with sticky white stuff.
>>143748519
We know you do Nanoha.
>>143745876
Praise our lord and saviour aRon
>>143748740
She already deals magic damage.
>>143748801
i said fill not cover
Does anyone have any webms of Hayate's spells?
It's been a full year since Vivid aired and still no Blu-rays.
>nanoha will never ask you to impregnate her wife
>>143745876
Thanks for the subs. Even de-hardsubbing the TSed episodes as we whined about it.
Vivio is best girl
>>143746696
Lots and lots of times over.
>>143745876
Bless you.
>>143747777
Fate is so honor-bound to her work it is bad for her. Having a kid would really help her.
Nanoha needs to do something about that.
Maybe ask Mariel, I bet there is some crazy magic for that if SLB aimed roughly at uterus isn't enough.
Pick 2
My waifu > your waifu
>>143749564
But that is my waifu
>>143749529
Be Einhart, have Vivio.
Secretly watchS1 and S2videos of NanoFate from when they were little, while being adult-transformed and go "squeeee those little schoolgirls are so cute OMO".
>>143749529
i choosefate's right buttcheekandfate's left buttcheek
>>143747884
>Because the show at times heavily implies a romantic relationship between Fate and Nanoha
Their marriage becomes canon afterwards. They also moved together and started a family.
>>143749564
>Loli Fate
>Adult Fate
>Alicia
>Levi
How do I get all the Fates?
>>143750016
Vivio is my waifu
>>143750021
>How do I get all the Fates?
Be all the Nanohas.
>>143750129
>Oh no I said it
>>143746009
Vita is a good girl
>>143750366
Cutie
>TFW when you'll probably never become more than friends because the manga drags on and no timeskip into teen lesbians.
>>143715124
Yuri is the strongest. The Materials were stronger than their counterparts.
>>143750021
>tfw your favorite series is a corpse, being paraded around on strings like a marrionette despite being long dead
>>143733110
Is that official art?
>>143751334
Yes
>>143750769
I think they will never go full lesbian just ''you are my best special friend in the whole world I can't live without you let's adopt a daughter I'll never look this way at anyone else''
>>143751454
But Fate's nipples are shopped right? I mean they are erect as fuck that's not normal
>>143751547
You do realize Fate's body is what sells the Nanoha franchise?
>>143751624
My issue was not with the body but with the nipples but yeah Fate has the best body
>>143751547
> I mean they are erect as fuck that's not normal
And they both are so wet they're actually forming a second pool outside the regular pool. Maybe they were having telepathic sex as they got their picture taken.
>>143751547
It is an artisitc intent that is supposed to convey the feelings so important in Nanoha series instalments.
>Nanoha.
>Nanoha.
>Nanoha...
The desire toreproducemake love is strong. Clock ticking after all.
>>143751738
Its real, there are more official nudes of Fate out there too
>>143751841
I am only aware of stuff from the StrikerS artbooks (with the naughty bits covered though).
>>143751624
>body made for breeding
>Nanoha is going to carry the baby
What a waste.
>>143752048
It will be surprise knockup, of course. You want to see her embarassed and thrown off-balance, don't you.
>>143752042
Loli Fate had a whole bunch of daikis come out right before the 2 movies came out
>>143752330
Well those are bona fide perv stuff, I guess I just completely try to look the other way wrt to those.
>>143750571
I want to commit another crime.
>>143752470
That was before her parents and friends corrupted her.
>>143752470
Vivio shut the fuck up you have 2 mamas
>>143752589
VIBRATING
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>>143752386
They are official, look it would be better that you just embrace the lewd loli Fate. You will save yourself some trouble
>>143752932
I can't quite stomach how these goods are intended for various otaku failures (no offense) to slime onto. One of the things that kinda shit on the characters (to borrow certain someone's terms), of course if we put aside outright rape/nasty/cyclone doujins and other such heavy calibre.
Nah, Feitoh is just for Nanyuha. I prefer to keep it fluffy, happy and purest kind of lewd
>>143753131
But all magical girl anime are like that. Besides the Nanoha franchise itself started out as a erogame
>>143753283
>There will never be a new nanoha game where you play as nanoha and go around forcibly befriending everyone
>>143752932
>Nanoha-print pantsu
Cute!
>>143753360
Here you go
God damn
>>143753283
Cutie. Erogame girls are so often too good for their genre, alas.
>>143753393
Whew, I missed that. Hah!
>>143753638
Just like Illiya, which also came from an erogame. I'm starting to see a pattern here
>>143753689
>Not immediately focusing on one of the most important things in the series: Feito's butt
I am confused
>>143753734
Could be focusing straight on the butt, bypassing and filtering out accursed underwear.
I like her face and voice more though.
Best part of StrikerS except for Fate and Vivio
>>143753734
>>143753896
There was an experiment where people were asked to count how many times a basketball was passed on a court. Most participants got the number right or within 1 or 2 passes. But when they were asked if they noticed the gorilla run across the court they unanimously said no.
The lesson here is that Fate's ass is just so information dense it requires the entire human attention span to process, and extraneous information such as the gorilla, or in this case the nanoha print pantsu is tossed aside.
When you see it
>>143754028
Or you just likened Fate's butt to a gorilla. Anon, shame on you.
>>143754098
No, fate's butt is the basketball court filled with people passing balls.
She is the Megumin of Nanoha.
>>143753932
She deserves hot cybrog dickings
>>143754098
>>143754132
I swear Vivio is the luckiest girl in the world to be able to grab on to Fate's caboose like this not to mention bathing with her and doing all sorts of other sexy time stuff
>>143754132
>bottom-size joke
Anon, you are not making it any better.
Hayate the sexiest Nanoha with Signum a close second.
Speaking of Nanoha, weren't someone doing the BDs of the entire series or was that dropped in favour of the movies? I've been meaning to watch it again then remembered I had Triad's.
>>143754364
BDs are a bit awful. Ugly filter instead of using some neutral upscaler like on saner digital re-releases, sadly.
The lineart doesn't look that bad if you focus on the detail-less big face shots, but when there is tinier stuff on screen, it gets fucked up and looks disfigured. Also I think they managed to fuck up the color balance a bit.
I will personally stick to R2J rips. The DVDs could take a hardcore encode with yatta and everything, but it is a bit too much work.
>>143754364
Subaru was supposed to finish it, but alas she is a baka
Why are these two so cute together?
>>143754087
Nanoha's panties?
Blaster Bits really make Nanoha the best all rounder in the group.
>>143732375
>Fate lacks defense so much a single hit can kill her
I was wondering about this. Why do actual battles contradict this notion? Force has her getting hit by Cypha's amped sword strikes and only suffering shallow cuts. Or is it only little Fate with the weak barrier jacket? I remember Signum, although not trying to kill her, whacking her pretty good during their first fight. Cutting Bardiche in half proves it was a very strong attack regardless. Jail had a spell potent enough to break her Zanber and block Plasma Lancers, but an energy blast to the face only knocked Fate down without injury. Fate also reflexively uses defenser in concentrated areas during A's to block melee attacks that she manages to not avoid, but it's also the auto-guard spell.
>base speed is in Force already at lightspeed
This is definitely untrue. It would be cool, though.
>>143738536
>>143734761
Apparently Yuri could destroy multiple planets at once in the blink of an eye if she wanted to at full power. Don't think any Nanoha character can compare to that.
>>143754878
>Do as I say, not as I do
They probably forgot she was supposed to be the speed demon and Nanoha be the power house. I notice the inconsistencies in their powers from time to time
>>143754878
I'm sure Hayate knows some world-crackers.
>>143754975
Well, after the original series, Fate is pretty much on par with Nanoha in power. She even has an equivalent spell to SLB and Exelion Buster afterwards. What really puts Nanoha over is the blaster bits and blaster system. Nanoha is always tankier, though.
I know Fate can get fucked up easily during Sonic Form, but I think it's possible her low defense otherwise is blown out of proportion.
>>143755128
Highly unlikely. Not even the defense system of the BoD could utterly annihilate a planet at a moment's notice.
>>143754364
I want Signum's signums
>>143755201
>is blown out of proportion
Of course, that "one hit and you die" is for the purpose of narrative drama in As. An even tehn I bet it would just be bent as needed if it happened.
>>143755248
Somebody in the right direction could see Rein's Rein there, too.
>>143754878
Nanohaverse power levels really lack consistency.
Would be great to actually know what constitutes each of the rankings.We know overall rankings involve skill but spell rankings should be based on at least a standardized system.
Even so, I enjoy Nanohaverse's magic system since it one of the few fleshed out ones at least that I know of. The only one I can think of that wins in terms of details in Nasuverse.
>>143755401
The rankings are simply a test, and as we saw, the test tests speed, decision-making, precision, and power.
Presumably the higher-tier tests are similar.
>>143755477
Yeah but on what scaling?
None of us know what is S rank speed vs. A rank speed. Is it Mach 5 vs Mach 1? It's mostly arbitrary.
>>143755401
>spell rankings should be based on at least a standardized system.
We at least know what the more powerful spells are with the Power rankings. Those are never really contradicted and you can extrapolate based on events.
>>143755520
That's casting speed, not the speed of the attacks.
So why did they cut out Yuno's domination of the first A's battle from the movie?
>>143755595
>Yuno
Who?
>>143755595
>>143755595
Wrong question, battle 1 was completely tossed out and replaced with bland "let's just get Fate and Nanoha beaten ASAP" stub. It was one of the worst parts of the movie, complete with them just being laid somewhere sadly after being drained out, which was completely anticlimactic compared to the S1.
The fight in the first two eps and the aftermath in ep3 were one of the best parts of As, too. Movie is really a joke with its screenplay. Still pissed about that.
>>143755784
I meant to say: laid somewhere safely.
In any case, it was a pretty bad idea to basically show "hey they were extra careful to not do any harm" when you try to make it dramatic and look like something is at stake in these fights.
Something is playing tricks on me it seems.
>>143755595
Yuno even had stronger defenses than Nanoha at the time before RH's upgrade. Luckily for him, Vita was skimping on the cartridges.
>>143755784
>one of the best parts of A
Webm related will never stop being awesome.
>>143755778
So if you guys could do the magic and were decent, would you join?
>>143755947
>Shamal fisting Nanoha
>>143755947
>>143755987
Why is everybody always trying to impale Nanoha?
>>143755248
How would one win Signum and her heart?
>>143755965
Nigga, magical combat ability is literally the only thing I'm willing to dedicate myself to perfecting.
>>143756107
Treat her like a lady. She's had to be Hayate's knight for so long, she has forgotten what it's like to have a knight fighting for her.
>>143756107
Best her in sword play or make her laugh
>You will never fluster Signum
>>143756194
>Gave her a ponytail
>Pink is her color
Thank god they didn't make the decision to make her into a buzz cut butch dyke
>>143756107
Be Hayate.
>>143756295
That won't stop me from trying
>>143756357
That sounds possibly interesting though. Such hair would take many years to grow back, though.
>>143756683
Could have been better if it was Agito and Rein theremaking out passionately
>>143756107
Fight her.
>>143756684
Or instantly because magic.
>>143755965
my ideal dream is to be Mai and to be in the nanohaverse where i can learn to fly
>Are you my master?
>>143756684
It is stereotypical, so I will pass
>>143753393
>>143753689
Holy fuck
>>143756899
Obligatory: Can Nanoha kill servants?
>>143756966
Probably not, because Nanoha doesn't have silly powerlevels (GoD excepted)
>>143749189
That outfit is really top tier. I normally hate that color but it works here
Golden showers for all!
>>143757134
lewd>you will never receive a golden shower from them
>>143757045
Why is flustered Signum so adorable?
>>143757134
Fate looks like she was left out
>>143755947
>tfw she still fired the SLB
>>143747884
Take off the yuri goggles please. This is why the series went downhill.
Fate is always the one who gets lewded
Was there ever an SSS mage?
>>143749944
>muh head cannon
>>143757499
>>143747884
Actually ChronoXNanoha is the only real canon love story in the franchise. And yesthey do the nasty
>>143757584
Is Triangle Hearts really considered part of the franchise?
>>143757134
gosh fate's titties are big
>>143757530
More than likely, they are probably out their doing big things or more than likely they are so powerful that they want to have nothing to do with the military
>>143757543
Why so butthurt? Most people that don't like lesbians in their anime didn't bother to watch Nanoha or any other similar series.
>>143757630
Dunno, there was a part in the first season about Nanoha's dad and how he almost got killed due to his work. I am going to side with a scrapping of the TH canon itself because of the fact that Nanoha becomes a magical girl in a totally different manner from MSLN. Also the characters have some issues too, as for everything else MSLN still feels a lot like TH.
>>143757530
I guess you can class Yuri as one or Reinforce.
>>143715124
She has the biggest breasts.
>>143757584
The first season falls apart completely if you don't look at it as a lesbian love story with some mahou shoujo trappings. As an action/adventure story it doesn't work because it lacks a proper climax (the Big Bad just falls over dead on her own) and has multiple episodes with no action at all, and what else is there? School drama? Pfft, it's not drama when everybody is best friends with everybody.
Basically, it's all about Nanoha trying to hit on Fate, and finally succeeding when she was at her most aggressive (proving once again that rape is love).
Actually, Nanoha succeeded by finally getting Precia to go all uber-bitch and denounce Fate's existence as a worthless hunk of tube-grown flesh and then gave her the metaphorical hug of a life time.
>>143757852
>this pasta again
>Another Nanoha thread goes by that I miss
WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS?
CARO IS BEST
Vivio makes me feel things
>That feel when this franchise is dead
>That feel when Dog Days is also dead
>>143757852
The hero's journey, remember those monsters Nanoha used to fight? Nanoha was just a normal magical girl for a few early episodes. We also had a lot of high-jinks going on too wit ha little slice of life
Nanoha with Stern make me feel things.
>>143758167
>TH1-3
>Nothing
>MSLN, As, StrikerS
>Nothing
>The Manga
>Nothing
>Vivid/Force
>Nothing
Well the franchise comes in waves, we get a whole bunch of content then silence, then whole bunch of content then silence.
>>143758360
Damn it's been so long since I've seen that gif.
>>143755965
I would become an SSS rank cock mage. My true power is conquering the hearts and pussies of the girls and making them fight for me.
>>143758495
Good for you anon!
Lucky bastard
>>143758075
http://gelbooru.com//images/b2/2a/b22ad1054e325c074c779717a33002be.jpeg
>>143758495
A regular magical girl would be more effective at that by default.
>>143758670
You are a good person
>>143758495
So Nanoha?
Where did she go wrong?
>>143758641
The Nanos were still kids. Miyuki, Suzuka's oneesan and her maids, though! Also did he see Arf naked? I forgot.
>>143758908
He has seen the whole group naked, Arisa and Nanoha didn't give him a choice
>>143758902
By sitting like that, honestly everyone can see her panties
>>143759038what panties?
>>143759038
Even Nanoha has to be sexy sometimes
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure this anime was responsible for turning me into a lolicon.
>Your bride
>>143759387
When she's lets say 16+.
I just want the series to move onto something else.
This entire storyline they tried to do with the Belkan royalty was a stupid idea from the start.
ViviD was a mistake
Force was a mistake.
>>143759571
I almost skipped the whole series because I thought it would be like that. Then I watched it and it became one of my favorites.
>>143749062
I can't blame them.
Would you want to make blu-rays of ViviD?
Dog Days S3 had more action, stakes, and adventure than ViviD.
She has the best looking Barrier Jacket.
>>143759387
Nanoha is the least sexy loli I have ever seen.
>>143759871
What are they going to do?
They got put into a box when they joined the military and time skipped. What they should have done was some questing or at least solving some problems back in Uminari
>>143760102
Maybe we can learn about Subaru and Tea's time at the military academy
>>143759592
Not yours, unless you're Nanoha.
>>143760131
What ever happened to that story when Nanoha nearly got killed before StrikerS?
>>143760102
>What are they going to do?
They could try to put those series behind them and try something new.
There are other adventures in the nanohaverse they could go on that aren't related to Belka or really bad Final Fantasy characters.
I would hope they would have at least several storylines in mind that they could go on or have fun with.
>>143760102
ITT: Storylines that they could still go on that wouldn't conflict with ViviD or Force.
How about a storyline focusing on the Knights? How are they holding up? Are there any others like them?
>>143760628
Would Nanoha join in her family business and assassinate people?