Has any harem ever had a protagonist that wasn't as described here? Perhaps Keima from TWGOK, but that only worked since he was forced into the situation. And he actually aggressively pursued the girls, instead of ignoring them.
>>143706768
Araragi though he is still a piece of shit anyway.
>>143706768
Layfon in Chrome Shelled Regios.
Tenchi in Tenchi Muyo.
Negi in Negima.
Rance.
>>143706882
I don't see how you're gonna say Negi and Tenchi don't fit what's described in the picture. Rance is a hentai protagonist, not a harem manga protagonist. I haven't read Chrome Shelled Regios, but I just pulled it up and it's only 16 chapters. The harem protagonist generally becomes more annoying and shitty the longer the manga goes on. Raku would've been a good protagonist, if Nisekoi had only lasted 20 chapters.
>>143707047
But Rance is perfect. He's charming and aggressive. He takes what he wants. Hentai protag or not he's the kind of man you would want to emulate.
>>143707668
>Rance
>>143707668
Rance isn't a harem protagonist and therefore isn't a piece of shit. We can agree. Rance would not ignore hot ass surrounding him and throwing hints his way every few minutes.
>>143707668
>>143706768
Seitokai no Ichizon. Yeah it's a parody show, but Ken Sugisaki is still a legend.
I'd say this thread simply confirms that harems are garbage, and the only time they have a good MC is when you're in a setting where the protagonist actually takes action and nails the girls.
>>143709255
Don't bring that show up. MC was best boy but all of the girls tied for worst girl.
Umi no Misaki
Goto Nagi grows a relationship with all of the girls.
Kisses them all at different times throughout the series.
Doesn't end after first sex scene with "main girl"
continues after orgy with all girls
>>143711784
>Japanese
>having a huge dick
pffft, yeah; okay, Japan.
Any Tenchi MC.
They tend to marry all the girls, and the family pet.
>>143707668
Honestly, if Rance could just tone down his rapey impulses a LITTLE, he'd be genuinely charming and likeable character. I mean, he's charming and likeable enough even WITH them that it's hard not to like him, even if you really aren't a fan of rape.
That's Rance for you, I guess. A real asshole, but not a piece of shit.
>>143706768
Ken from Student Counil
>>143706882
>Negi
>Tenshi
>>143714937
He's not an asshole. He's a dick and dicks fucks assholes and pussies. Pussies may not like dicks because they get fucked by dicks but remember that pussies are only an inch and a half away from assholes. Assholes don't like dicks either because of the same reason. But dicks keep assholes in check because without dicks assholes would shit all over everything. Then your pussy, your asshole, and your dick will be covered in shit. That's why Rance is the best, most charming, and most take charge of protagonists.
There is that one harem manga called Adam something.
He gets to fuck all the girls, and even gets to fuck and get fucked by, a trap.
>>143707668
Rance is a literally retarded rapist who is aided by plot magic to make girls magically like him. It's "okay" for a hentai protagonist, but he's not an actually good character and certainly not the type of character that would be believable in a serious setting.
>>143715726
I believe in him.
>>143707047
Chrome Shelled Regios is a Light Novel Series. It went on a long time and the protagonist wasn't as described in OP.
>>143715726
>who is aided by plot magic to make girls magically like him
Save for Lia and Satella and maybe Sill who does this apply to?
It certainly doesn't apply to the other over 100 girls in the series.
And Satella first appears using her stone golem to rape a girl in order to interrogate the girl's boyfriend.
And Lia of course used to kidnap girls for her sex dungeon.
And both Satella and Lia have masochist tendencies when it comes to sex with Rance.
So the only two characters in the series who fall for Rance as a result of getting raped are the two masochists who had no problems with rape/were rapists themselves before hand.
Actually just realised Emi Alphon is a third but she is a masochist and it was the whole getting demeaned that she got off to.
>>143716091
I've only played Sengoku Rance and literally every girl becomes fine with being raped or even falls in love with him at some point.
>>143716156
Most the girls in Sengoku Rance either didn't get raped by him or don't fall in love with him because of it.
There are multiple important girls in the series where the whole rape thing was a massive barrier in the relationship for years
>>143716226
Again: literally everyone is fine with him raping people left and right.
I can't believe you subhuman retard are literally trying to argue that this is well-written and Rance a believable protagonist and not merely a tool to present h-scenes to the audience.
>>143716297
Look at history. How do you think knights and warlords actually behaved?
Why do you think something like 9% of the worlds population is descended from Genghis Khan?
Rance is a hero in the old greek mythology sense like - Jason, Achilles, Hercules etc.
He gets away with shit because one he's strong and two most people tend to let the guy who fought off a demon invasion off your country get away with stuff.
He's not a nice person.
Are we seriously discussing the writing merits of a comedy hentai protagonist?
>>143706768
Anon, anon, anon. You act like the page you posted is news at all. That's what everyone on /a/ has always been saying. Those types of harem protagonists are SHIIIIIT.
>>143716383
>Look at history. How do you think knights and warlords actually behaved?
You think knights randomly raped people? Utter nonsense.
>Rance is a hero in the old greek mythology sense
No, Rance is a hentai game protagonist who rapes people on screen so that the audience has something to fap to.
>He gets away with shit because one he's strong and two most people tend to let the guy who fought off a demon invasion off your country get away with stuff.
He doesn't just 'get away' with it in a sense of him being able to beat people into submission. He gets away with it in the sense of the game treating his raping in a tongue-in-cheek fashion and hardly anyone taking it seriously. And even those who initially aren't too happy about it more often than not only end up tsundere about it.
>>143706768
Araragi, Ken Sugisaki, Leyfon
>>143706768
Everyone is a piece of shit to a douchebag. End of story.
>>143716576
Except the games don't treat him as a good guy.
In Kichikuou Rance Leazas falls into civil war because he becomes king.
The good end for a majority of the girls is along the lines of 'never met Rance again'.
Maris thinks he is a bit of a monster.
The game blatantly draws parallels between him and the villain.
>>143716929
>Except the games don't treat him as a good guy.
Sengoku Rance treats Rance as a quite okay guy. He does mean things by real world standards but the universe he's in doesn't really consider them that mean at all, and most people let him get away with what he's doing without holding grudges. Plenty of people like or even love him, despite all that raping and murdering.
>>143717016
Fighting off demon invasions tends to do that.
I'm not the guy earlier who was talking about how great he was.
He is a cunt. He is self centred with occassional moments of good.
But the claim that girls constantly fall in love with him from getting raped is false. The vast majority don't and those that did have no problems with rape and are also masochistic.
And yes in the real world soldiers and warlords and well connected people did get away with stuff.
>>143717264
I don't know what you're trying to argue there. The point remains that Rance is poorly written drivel that is not believable in the slightest.
>And yes in the real world soldiers and warlords and well connected people did get away with stuff.
The point is that it was not commonplace for knights to go around and rape people and they most certainly would not brag about it.
>>143706768
Minato from Sekirei. Not even a great character, he just wasn't THAT.
>>143711784
So he's a womanizer. Doesn't that still qualify as a piece of shit? Don't you think that about people who openly have multiple girlfriends in real life?
>>143706768
Viewers don't want harem MCs to remind them of the kind of guys who kicked their asses in high school...
れてー
What mean
>>143717624
In your highly sanitised disney history sure
>>143719104
Actual knights almost certainly didn't rape, at least not in large numbers.
Barbarians and other warriors sure but European knights had strict moral codes and all that shit.
>>143713950
No one was talking about huge dicks before you.
>>143719104
I think you should look up some actual sources on how great the life of a knight was, e.g. Ulrich von Hutten. There really wasn't a whole lot of rape and a lot more administrative tasks.
>>143706768
The protagonist of Tsumomo. Not so much that he's dense, but he's a complete prude. There was an event when he's thrown into a dream world and becomes a girl, and that suit him better. Including the little bitch attitude.
>>143708311
Still best Persona girl
>>143706768
Grisaia MC fucks his harem. He even gets the retarded one pregnant
>>143706768
Kazuma's a piece of shit but I like him
>>143719182
>European knights had strict moral codes and all that shit.
Probably had more to do with being a permanent ruling class, and raping peasants is a good way to get an uprising on your hands.
