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Shows that used CG to good effect.
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>>143568993
Were waiting OP post one show.
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Sidonia gave me motion sickness

Best CG I've seen in an anime has to be Akito the Exiled, although I've seen people here disagree with me
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>>143569014
Arpeggio of Blue Steel
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>>143568993
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>>143569116
Dunno if the CG was good because the plot was shit and I bailed.
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Gankutsuou
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Eto-tama
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Ajin
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Garo the animation. Dem armors and fights
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>>143569121
Did Garou get better? I dropped it at S2
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>>143569262
I can't recall better cg in anime than this.
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>>143569262
The best
>>143569338
This too,they actually did a god job with the armor in combat
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>>143569338
Only HnK and the upcoming movie though
GnT was a disappointment
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GitS:SAC had good use of CGI
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>>143568993
None. I haven't seen a single anime that used CG well and I've watched every single anime in this thread.
>>143569210
No, that was a 10/10 anime with really stupid CG giant robots thrown in, which is the worst part of the series.
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>>143569362
Watch all of Divine Flame. Forget Crimson Moon exists.
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Bubuki Buranki had some good cg
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>>143569362
GnT sucked
But the movie Divine Flame receive overall positive feedback in Japan
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Jojo openings
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>>143568993
Tokyo Ravens
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MJP.
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>>143569481
no fucking torrents in english tho nobody wants to translate it i guess
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>>143569475
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHA

No it didn't.
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GIRL UND FUCKING PANZER
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RWBY
I can't see the top half of my screen where my r/anime folder is; fedora is in the way, so you'll have to believe me.
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>>143569532
BD and DVD aren't even out yet
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Did you guys like the Harlock movie? I didn't care for the faces but Harlock had sexy hair
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>>143569362
>I dropped it at S2
Just like everyone else.
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>>143569116
Only the ships look good desu.
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Etotama
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Ping Pong if you know where to look
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>>143569607
I thought it was pretty well done.
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>>143569606
impatience and ignorance make a bad combination i guess. thanks for the info
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>>143569689
I don't desu
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>>143569573
Yes, this is the only correct answer.
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>>143568993
Last Exile S1.
Not that CG was "good". It just fit in better than you'd expect.
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>>143569607
Why isn't this the standard for cgi anime?
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>>143569116
manga was better
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>>143569837
>>143569573

I would agree with you except for the shots when they stick their heads out of the tanks and It looses realism because they kinda look pasted there like flat paper dolls.
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>>143569537
looked ok in my opinion. the show wasn't interesting. but the CG looked acceptable.
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>>143569607
technical execution: 9/10
aesthetics: 3/10
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>>143570092
>A single frame with closed mouths and all characters looking at camera.
>CG looked acceptable.

Yeah sure tell yourself whatever you want.
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>>143570358
It was good.
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>>143569961
Why isn't Pixar animation the standard for daytime television? Because it's time-consuming and expensive as fuck. That's why it's reserved for full-length movies.

>>143569537
It was really solid, except when the characters were walking. Amazing sound design too.

I hope they can make the show make sense in cour 2.
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>>143570014
>anime faithfully adapting the manga never
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>>143570424
I was gonna fire back with a webm to prove my point but I have to download it first and nobody is seeding this show so I really think my point is proven already.
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This killed Sailor moon

>>143568993

Sidonia CGI is terrible, more with the talking worm
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>>143570587
There are plenty of seeds though.
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>>143570137
>aesthetics: 3/10
?
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Berserk this season. Not the movies though.
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>CGI anime

-15 frames per second
-choppy moves
-characters have weird faces with giant foreheads
-bad shading

Every time
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>>143570587
>24 seeds
you lie
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MJP had pretty good CG i dont have any webms of it though
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In Haifuri mermaid sailors are out-of-place with the CGI boats
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Does Show by Rock count? The CG/drawn depending on the world reminded me of Code Lyoko in a good way.

Disclaimer: I've only watched the first episode.
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>>143570505
They call it animation because the things in the image move. Terrible walking, and in my opinion terrible movement in general are points against CG in this specific case.

I agree that still shots are pretty good but once everything starts moving It starts getting uncanny.

I just got the first episode downloaded and remembered what I fucking hated about this show FRAMERATES the 3DCG has a noticeably stuttering framerate and I am fairly certain that the backgrounds have a different framerate than the CG.
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>>143570954
>tracker seeds represent actual seeds
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>>143571106

Show by Rock CGI is better that pixar
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>>143570822
Nope, don't like her design either.
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>>143571212
i downloaded it a few days ago and it finished swiftly.
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>>143569680
>Eto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0K7XTTNuc8
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>>143570926
>-15 frames per second
2D anime does that too
>-choppy moves
2D anime does that too
>-characters have weird faces with giant foreheads
2D anime does that too
>-bad shading
that's a big issue
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>>143571327
>ice is made of H2O, so if you can't drink it the problem is with you
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>>143571327
yeah but were used to all of that in anime. CG gives character models a lot more physical depth which means its a lot more jarring if its done poorly
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>>143571277
Ill retract my complaints it spent an overly extended time in the 0kb/s waiting for seeds but it is now hitting my cap so you win.
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>>143571476
CG action can look pretty amazing, I'm really hype to see more of Berserk because of this.
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>>143571404
well, ideally CGI anime would look roughly similar to traditionally animated anime. different process, same product.
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>>143569859
One of the few series that did CGI to effect, Sidonia would of been up there if they didn't go janky 30fps.
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>>143568993
>pic unrelated
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>>143571476
This scene falls under the why didn't they just shoot him trope. CG is fine tho.
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do the jojo ops count
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Any dance animation.

A) have several animators spend years slavishly studying how the body of a dancer moves and study individual motions
B) just do mocap
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>>143571327
>2D and 3D are the same.
Then why can I clearly tell the difference and why is 3D the one I find inferior.
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>>143571622

Agreed. The poor performance of those supposedly trained operators really annoyed me since they had to be that way for the sake of the plot.
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>>143571729
I've seen plenty of arguments over whether some mecha was done in 2D or 3D in a particular scene to know that it's nearly indistinguishable to some people.

We're obviously not yet at the point where it's a drop-in replacement for character animation. But at least some still images can also deceive you at first glance.
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>>143571431
in the meantime, have this. i made it earlier to harvest some berserk tears
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>>143570926
SmoothProject makes your anime have more frames by interpolating them. Soon, anime will only be 5 frames per second and the AI will do the rest.
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>>143572312
>interpolation artifacts
no
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>>143571982
>Still images used as arguent in a discussion about animation.


>deceive

I don't want to be deceived into thinking 3D is actually 2D. What I want is for 3D to be better than it currently is.

This for me has always been a discussion of quality. I like good 2D I like good 3D I don't like bad 3D or 2D. It just so happens that the 3D is worse or more noticeable or I have higher standards for it than 2D.
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>>143572312
>interpolation bullshit
Enjoy your eye cancer.
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>>143572312
Great now I can watch anime with a soap opera filter on it.
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I don't care. Angela is perfection.
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>>143569262
Mein negger.
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Honestly this was the best thing I've seen so far. Actual non-choppy subtle movement. All the flashy high movement shit can fuck off.
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Some people didn't like the clay-like texture they decided to go with, but the CG was solid and smooth. I think it suited their myumon forms pretty well.

Of course, Etotama also was amazing.
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>>143568993
majestic prince
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>>143571982
>I've seen plenty of arguments over whether some mecha was done in 2D or 3D in a particular scene
I can guarantee every one of those was 2D drawings rotoscoped from a 3D model.
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>>143572659
Studio Orange doesn't fuck around.

Also >>143572682 is great.
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>>143572355
>This for me has always been a discussion of quality.
pretty sure anime studios see it as a cost-saving measure. just maintaining the current quality at lower cost would seem more realistic. of course some improvements may eventually all out of this thing, but for now it's more downsides (less flexibility) than upsides.

Consider the switch from cels to digital. Colors sucked. Resolution sucked.
But we got more layers, easier fixes on the DVD (now BD) releases and over the years coloring improved where get nice gradients and colors that would have been unthinkable on cels. And we get some compositing effects (lighting, color filters) which may be of debatable benefit but they certainly were difficult or impossible before.
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>>143572659
mhm, yes, subtle movements
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Unlimited Blade Works used CG really well

>inb4 fatefags and antifatefags

Putting aside the plot, the fate franchise, and waifus, the show mixed CG and traditional animation very well. I especially enjoyed the second Lancer v Archer fight. The series uses traditional animation as the base, and CG for dazzle. This makes it so that the CG still looks like it belongs with the rest of the show, as there is regular animation being used as the base.

That being said, Caster's golems looked like shit. But the rest looked great.
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>>143571106
Show By Rock's CG was cute once you got used to it, but the 2D and 3D are so different from each other, the switch is always jarring, especially in the first episode.
https://youtu.be/XG9-cXbQ27Q
ED visuals of the year though.
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>>143568993
pic unrelated, right?
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>>143573008
DId she just clench her ass?
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>>143573088
She's disabled so the recoil freely wobbles her asscheeks.
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>>143572900
Doubling the number of interpolated frames between key-frames isn't expensive, stutter is just irredeemable.
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>>143571622
>why didn't they just shoot him trope
>trope
He gets shot in the leg about five seconds in. There's no point in trying to kill him.
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>>143573182
you're assuming CG anime uses interpolated movements. they don't.

for example to avoid pantyshots during a spin kicks they deliberately place the keyframes in a way that either the skirt or one of the legs obscures the panties and don't interpolate between those keyframes. similar skipping is also necessary if they switch between different meshes for the face or want to control the shading manually.
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>>143573182
This. Drawing inbetweens is literally work. Making it so that frames aren't outright skipped 'for aesthetic reasons' is the equivalent of a box that needs to be ticked in the export settings dialogue. No excuse.

>>143573262
Didn't they need him alive for interrogation?
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>>143573367
>Drawing
>3D rendering

Not the same
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>>143573367
>Didn't they need him alive for interrogation?
Go look up the general plot of the show.
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>>143573432
That's the point.
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>>143573262
>Legs are what you use to shoot yourself.
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>>143573367
>Didn't they need him alive for interrogation?
Did you not catch him shooting the guy behind him by aiming through his own neck?
He's immortal and killing him gives him a full heal. They were trying to tranq him but got fucked by his immortal backup killing him and letting him shake off the tranquilizers.
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>>143573479
Sorry most people who reply to me disagree with me and I have a problem with reading comprehension apparently.
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>>143573502
Best answer.
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>>143573509
Minor detail, but in that particular scene they were trying to kill him over and over so that he had no chance to properly recover.
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>>143573439
>>143573509
I know nothing of this series. I just assumed they'd need that dude alive because otherwise, they'd have killed him immediately. Is it worth picking up?
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>>143573641
Read the manga. Anime is short and goes with an original ending.
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>>143573606
I know. I read the manga.
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>>143572659
>>143572840
Orange is the best in the game right now and that's because they got a headstart years ago with fafner HaE.
Their CG is some of the best I've seen, and it helps that they deform models to get them to look like traditional anime.

Sunrise has been really good as well when it came to the Code Heads OVAs but Gundam the origin's has been a bit lackluster
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Ghost in the Shell 2.0's CG was really really good. It perfectly nailed the fact that the Major is a digital simulacrum trying and failing miserably to be human.
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>>143573553
This is good pure 3D
Quality 2D>Pure 3D>3D tracing>3D with fake 2d shader>3D and 2D in the same shot

>>143573641
He is functionally immortal

Shoot him in the arms and legs or dog-pile him with your shields. KO him with beanbag rounds or hey get a fucking net.
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>>143569262
Just came here for this.
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>>143573745
Did they also do Argevollen or taht was some diff studio?
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>>143573745
>and it helps that they deform models to get them to look like traditional anime.
so does toei. and i think i've seen some anime expo pieces doing that too
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>>143573815
metadata
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Someone post some Active Raid webms.
Someone post some Arpeggio webms from the last episode or the movies.
Someone post the Rebuild webms.
Someone post that 60FPS Sidonia.
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>>143573815
wait for it
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>>143573819
That was Xebec. The people on that did some good simulated momentum, that I don't have a webm of.
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>>143573815
>source
>>143571621
Filename
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>>143570646
Someone please tell animation studios that less is more.
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>>143573970
why don't you wait for it?
or just search the fucking studio
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>>143573970
Since I just noticed it doesn't have metadata like it's supposed to, Fafner Exodus. Yes you have to watch the 2004 show and the 2010 movie to know what's going on.
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>>143574128
>spoonfeeding when we have wait
there's practically zero reason for that now
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>>143574021
I don't think my suspension of disbelief can ever be strong enough to watch 2 little girls in cosplay flying around getting shot at by lasers from a giant alien dreadnaught, while actual realistic fighter jets and pilots buzz them in a formation.

How does someone plot out this scene and think to themselves, "This looks good, put it in air", but then again the people that buy this shit are subhuman enough to not even care as long as it some sort of merchandise vehicle to expend their autism on, I guess.
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>>143574151
I don't give a shit. It still has nothing besides the absolute most popular shit from before 2004 and lots of shit is missing from 2004-2007 range. I did it because the webm itself has no metadata which is my only standard.
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>>143574298
it finds your webm. adjust your standards to the new reality.
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>>143574355
>thinks wait won't be dead within the next 8 months
Yeah, no
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Forgive my newfagging but what is wait? Google isn't being particularly helpful despite my myriad of search attempts for it. I can tell by context that it's a webm identifier of sorts for anime but I"m having trouble finding the exact website.
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>>143574453
what anime is this
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>>143574453
whatanime.ga
No idea what logic the person running it has for calling it wait. "lol just wait bro" fucking stupid. Also it only works on pictures so you'll have to snapshot the webm.
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>>143574559
works just fine on the webm thumbnail, which is what 4chanX doe
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>>143574595
It's failed on 4chan thumbanils for me multiple times so I don't use them at all now.
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>>143574559
>"lol just wait bro" fucking stupid.
It entertains me greatly.
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Seizon senyaku the mechs while they were unfolding
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>>143573896
>Someone post some Arpeggio webms from the last episode or the movies.
meh. the movie felt like a parody. more a laser light show than a battle. not many webm-worthy scenes in my opinion.

the "look, we're computing" rings around the MMs also distract from what improvements they have made to the face animations.
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>>143574453
Extensionfags are cancer, that's all.
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>>143574822
I never saw the films. How much Hyuga do we get?
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>>143574271
>2 little girls in cosplay
That's the problem right there. Magical girl armor provides full body protection of the highest available armor class. Just like plate bikinis.

Once you have internalized that fundamental truth it will be far more plausible.
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>>143575005
first one is mostly a recap with a bit new material, second one has a lot new characters, not much screentime for hyuuga. she gets to troll takao though.
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>>143568993
Rokka no Yuusha

Their CG was ugly to look at, so they just made the monsters CG. It worked pretty well. The demons looked like hideous creatures from an alien realm
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>nobody posts Aikatsu
>nobody posts pretty rhythm
Every fucking time
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>>143575839
>Aikatsu
looks cheap
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>>143573074
Nah. Sidonia is preddy good, especially S2. S2 plots are shit though
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>>143568993
i want to fuck izana.
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>>143576070
>the sidonia had antialiasing turned off for many scenes
inexcusable for pre-rendered CGI

>horrendous bear shading
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>>143569262
>>143573816
what wizardry is this, and why has no one else done it
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>>143575892
>cheap
https://youtu.be/dYRBAFG9Wx0
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>>143576147
Ain't Ajin do pretty much the same thing?
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>>143568993
Ronja was good
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>>143576070
Jesus christ, it looks like a school project
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>>143576191
chibis. simpler body, less risk of uncanny valley.

>>143576251
yeah. their shading isn't great either
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>>143570025
Watch the movie, if you haven't already.
They used 2D animated characters for exterior shots, instead of the 3D models from the show. It looks much better.
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>>143576339
(You)
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>>143569430
The CGI pedestrians looked fucking terrible.
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Girls und Panzer and Initial D used CGI alright if not pretty well. Ace Attorney and Berserk however, no.
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>>143576205
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NONE
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I don't have any webms, but Bodacious Space Pirates.
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>>143573665
Nah, it's getting a second season this fall. Guess they'll have to retcon Nagai being able to control his IBM though.
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>>143572682
Pretty much.
The fight choreography in the show was so damn good.
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>>143576070
Sidonia had nice fights. They can fuck right off with that plot. nigga married the talking work in the manga
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>>143569095
>I've seen people here disagree with me

Gee, it's like that's out of the ordinary or something
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>>143577304
and https://files.catbox.moe/r2isez.mkv

because existing youtube uploads suck donkey balls
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The show was a disaster but I remember Comet lucifer to have some good CG here and there.
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>>143579789
CG done by Orange
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZxFKCkNFoU

Easily the best use of CGI I've seen in a while
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>>143580079
Oh boy, someone remembers TCC.
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>>143580079
>dance against robots
>make joke robot-dissing choreography
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QukmzzHK878
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>>143573896
Got some AR
Mythos did nothing wrong
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>>143580450
>S2 soon
Can't wait, active raid was great.
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>>143569262
wish this got a S2 atleast
S1 wasn't great (outside of it's CG) but it spent all season just setting up the cast
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>>143580079
Damn, that must've been a bitch to make. Good shit.
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>>143571476
>>143571621
>S2 in fall season

Aw yeah
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>>143576129
Over Yuhata's dead body.
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>>143568993
Etotama's one of the few shows with actually good CGI and was able to transition between 3DCG and 2D very well. The few times where a 3DCG character was brought to 2D was played off as a gag with Nya-tan basically not wanting to touch it because it was a 3DPD Cock.
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>>143570954
Son do you know what DHT and Peer exchange are?
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I cant believe no one mention Nihon Animator Mihonichi
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>>143582572
Goat had best episode.
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>>143582887
Fresh Precure movie had a very nice transition between CG and 2D too.
Though i can't find the webm
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>>143569262
Fucking this I don't understand why Japan isn't copying the Eto-tama CG it looked fine and didn't visually look bad at all.
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>>143583000
Precure's EDs in general have above average animation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYVsf82K5c
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>>143582968
But I wanted to learn about sesame oil
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>>143572659
What is this? I tried searching a still, and googling the acronym on the shoulder of the mech, but no results.
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>>143583074
Fafner Exodus.
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Tiger& Bunny was getting better and better. Too bad Sunrise didn't want to print more money.
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>>143574453
>>143574559
>>143574856
What
Anime
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>>143583255
I was about to post this. I'm actually glad it's over before it became full fujobait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNsywu4fhXs
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>>143571562
I think it was even less than 30fps. I don't usually notice anything wrong with 30fps but Sidonia was a fucking slideshow in action scenes. More like 15fps.
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>>143572660
The most important thing they did right is that they did NOT lower the frames per second to the same amount as that of 2D animation.

The band concerts having quick and vibrant movements is what makes the 3D animation really awesome.
Ryo Sasaki did a good job with that.
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>>143582899
that means that there might be more than indicated by the tracker, not fewer.
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