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This show is so fucking by-the-numbers
it's fucking garbage
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I was fucking pissed off at the incorrect usage of the BEST song of the soundtrack (1st half of noname), honestly what the fuck were they thinking when they did this?
Sure, it's kinda emotional but it doesn't FUCKING fit!
With Takumi dying pointlessly and Ikoma getting his hand blown off and being stabbed by Mumei, it's like they read the textbook "how to make basic suffering".
>>142968566
What are the chances for the mc to royally screw ayame sama
>Guilty Crown director
Yep, full of shit. Shame they couldn't find a better director.
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT OKUCHI YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS
Who's ready to see Ikoma and Kurusu storming Kongokaku with righteous fury?
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>start off as a cute, sexy, strong female character
>end up being worthless and completely dependent on and subservient to the villain
Why exactly did they decide to write her this way? I can't figure out what they were going for
>>142969054
Araki is fine. He just needs a good script to go with.
I can't wait for the by-the-book comeback of Punished Ikoma and his rescuer the Loyal Samurai, who both will together catch up to the train as it arrives in The Big Capital. Together, they will thwart the Big Bad Evil's plans to destroy the city as they cut through the elite mooks like they are butter with their blowgun and katana folded 1000 times. The Samurai has served his role so now the Big Bad Evil will take him out in a couple hits but not kill him as it is written in the basic book on how to make the Big Bad Evil look super strong and leave the Punished MC alone to fight. However, as the manual indicates, the Brainwashed Heroine will, as expected, join the fight against Punished MC and together they will leave him extremely debilitated, on the ground, grasping for his weapon as the Big Bad Evil slowly approaches him all the while he delivers his death speech to give him his final blow that will never come. However, this is the moment when our Brainwashed Heroine will wake up because of the power of love, after hearing a particularly standard shout by Punished MC. Then, as the Big Bad Evil raises his arm to complete his role, our Heroine will strike him down, thus redeeming herself of all her previous wrongs.
At this point, the manual indicates that a very dramatic scene should occur where either of Punished MC or the Heroine will begin to turn. However, after a few seconds of poorly delivered cries and words, the Potion to Cure all Ailments will be provided as it was conveniently found by the Filler Princess, or delivered to her by the Loyal Samurai. Either way, with this, a shot of the elixir will be given to the sufferer, they will be saved, add some ending music and emotional reunion plus a brief moment to expose all the small role characters, and Only Now does the True Battle Begin(TM) as they still need to rid the world of the menace! This shall be delivered in a small timeskip epilogue.
The episode was better than the last couple, for what little that's worth. Keeping things on the train has that effect for whatever reason.
>>142969454
Slightly autistic.
>>142968943
Now that Takumi is gone and Mumei is a junkie? More than ever.
Mumei is literally responsible for everything bad that happens in this series. She's downright terrible.
>>142969406
You must be blind for missing the direction of the show completely crashing down after episode 2.
>>142969964
You mean Biba
to the point where it's cartoonish how responsible he is for everything bad even
>>142969964
Armpits and feet though
>>142969964
How is that applicable for this episode?also why does every character get punked by the baton guy?
>>142968566
What do expect from a sole that sole purpose for existing is to be an Attack on Titan clone.
>>142968736
Using Sawano soundtracks is hard. They tend to be very small and most of the tracks vocal stuff cause they're composed more like a standard album than showtunes. I do not envy a staff that gets stuck with him and has to try to make use of his tracks in a way that fits
Anyone else thinks Mumei is pretending? I mean Ikoma is alive from the previews so she didn't pierce the heart cage even if she was using a kabane steel blade
>>142970150
My best guess is that he's one of those rare male kabaneris or something.
Either that or Ikoma is conveniently weak when the plot needs him to be
At the beginning Mumei looked like girl of the season material. Now she is just another useless bitch.
>>142970280
>>142968736
I'd say the best way to enjoy this show is with linkin park playing in the background, instead of listening to the actual soundtrack they're using.
Great art, great characters (except biba), good voice acting, generic as fuck plot.
If this exact same shit happened in endride, both of the people who watch it would have hated it.
>>142969169
He seems to have really gone to shit when he started working on Aniplex projects and given what's happened with their other originals lately I doubt it's much of a coincidence. Last time he worked outside of their framework was Code Geass which had its problems too mind you, just not to quite the same degree. I still can't believe this guy could have been the primary writer on Turn A Gundam with how laid back that show is
>>142970387
>Tell me how you feel about your friend being shot
>I CAN'T FEEL THE WAY I DID BEFORE
>>142970458
>great characters (except biba)
you forgot fucking mumei, the worst character in the entire show
>>142970509
She was fine until this episode. Good at the start, her transition from "I'm a badass" to "Hey people might be nice" to "I regret not being a badass now that my weird stepdad came back", and now to "lol I got brainwashed with drugs lel"
>>142970374
I just hope she gets at least one cute vanilla doujin with Ikoma to redeem her
>>142970387
Got you covered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTMSvo66icQ
>>142970546
Oh I forgot "Actually I don't regret not being a badass, biba is just a dick"
>>142970387
What's the difference lately? It's amazing though go listen to Gundam Unicorn or even Attack on Titans OST and go listen to anything since and including Kill LA Kill and you'll wonder how it can possibly be the same composer outside of one particular instance of sound. Everything since he started the NzK era had been garbage but that's also when he started to become the hypest composer around and went from like a soundtrack every few years to a soundtrack a season or even more. He just seems to get used for monetary and popularity reasons now cause at least with animes low standards you can keep pumping out the same crap and people will still love you as long as you have that one hit.
>>142970086
>it's cartoonish
Exactly my thoughts at
>how does it feel to lose somebody so close?
Im just kind of irritated of the super villain move where they kick the MC off the ride instead of just killing him right there and then despite everybody knowing that falling from a 1km high cliff is not going to kill MCs.
Dropped ot at ep 8
I will give it 2/10 to be generous
>>142969964
No, that's Biba.
>>142969197
>Why exactly did they decide to write her this way? I can't figure out what they were going for
She's always been the same thing. A tool to destroy Kabane. But she's realized her owner is insane.
How it took her so long to realize this, I don't know. Because he's clearly crazy.
Maybe repeat mind breaks every time she starts wising up?
Yukina is the best thing that came out of this.
Started off as my AOTS, now it's downright terrible.
>>142970086
>>142970961
>Mumei apologists
She was screwing up things long before Biba was even introduced. She's an idiot. Being 12 is not an excuse.
>>142970150
>oh boy brother you sure did betray me hard last episode and that should have been eye opening
>but I'm going to act like everything is cool for a while and trust you when you say you aren't going to kill more people until you need to capture me
FUCK OFF MOOMAY
>>142970564
>zombie series
Don't hold your breath for even a vanilla Mumei/Generic Faceless Male doujin.
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What the fuck what kind of asspull is coming next week?
>>142968943
She belongs to a random noble that will ensure her people's safety.
Samurai moe gets cucked, Ikoma continues being a poorfag
Already mates follow my trought my thoughs
I'm going to try to explain why this series is fucking shits, i'm not going to talk about animation or shit like that i'm just going to touch the core of the shitness
This is series is part of the genere I hate the most, zombie series, and when I mean zombie series I don't mean REALLY zombies, I mean any series with a villain/main threat that shows not emotion, so I also considere Gunbuster and Eva a zombie series, BUT i'm going to go back to it later so hold on tight
The problems with zombie series is that you already lost one of the most entertainign pieces of story writting that exists, a villain, a charismatic villain can carry a shit series alone, in a zombie series you don't have that, you can change the main threat for logs and you wouldn't miss a thing,
Does it mean I hate all zombie series? no, not at all, I love Gunbuster and EVA but what is the main difference between these series and Kabaneri? Those two are character driven stories, Gunbuster isn't about the space monsters, it is about Noriko dealing with his father's death and surpassing it, Eva is not about the angels, it is about Shinji's depression and shit you know that everyone and their mums already talked about eva, Kabaneri is just about fightin boring zombies.
The main characters in Kabaneri doesn't express emotions that are not angry or sadness beyond the first episode (which is actually a good episode), they are logs, just fucking logs like the enemies they fight, Everyone rememebers Shinji being depressed but if you really remembers the series there are several instances of Shinji laughing, blushing and even being a cocky asshole.
This is the reason why this show is fucking shit
>>142970658
>one particular instance of sound
He has several favourite sounds he keeps on reusing (in the background). I'm ESL so I can't really describe them...
He's a hype guy, but he's good at calmer tracks as well
>進撃 gt20130218 巨人, 進撃 pf-adlib-c20130218 巨人, 進撃 pf-medley20130629 巨人
>KLK'S second OST (I don't have the names of the tracks, so I'll be going by numbers): Track 7, Track 8, Track 17
>noname, araganeekiNo@8女 (that second half is god damned amazing)
I don't know if he also worked on the ending of Kabaneri, but it's one of the things I look forward to each week.
sorry for blogposting
Is there ANY Okouchi-written show where the protagonist doesn't get betrayed?
It's still aots though
>mumei retained some of her former self
>didnt strike Ikoma's heart, just very close to it
>ikoma unexpectedly returns last episode
>defeats biba
it's coming and it's gonna be fucking retarded
>>142970251
Fuck off
>>142971900
PUNISHED IKOMA
>>142972128
hahha no
>>142971900
An old hermit is going to find him and give him the secret formula into becoming a Super Habanero
>>142972156
BUT HE DROWNED
>>142970251
Attack on Titan is shit
Kill yourself and your shit taste
>>142971900
The rogue kabaneri that Oniisama abandoned (think: that Ear guy and his former comrades) are gonna teach Ikoma new tricks, and he's gonna join their ranks.
I don't really see this ending in 2 episodes though, how will they pull it off?
>>142970280
They did a very good job with the sound direction in SnK. Not sure why they would make such a blunder this time.
>>142971900
samurai bro to the rescue!
>>142972128
Good point. Man, this season is really shitty when Kabaneri is aots. Everything else this season is more shitty than Kabaneri. Anime is dead
>>142971900
>That clean cut arm with no blood on it
Where did the budget go?
>>142972267
>Luluco
>>142971900
Ikoma WILL turn into a hive colony.
It's the only way for him to catch up to the train.
He will power up and he will fire his zombie laser beam and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>142972324
Hell yeah motherfucker.
I really loved the steampunk asthetic - trains, steamguns, etc. combined with the feudal japan. It was a marvel, really enjoyed the show just for the setting.
Then Biba showed up and brought fucking Final Fantasy technology, complete with bikes, miniguns and tubes that auto-collect blood like it's no big deal.
Not only did he ruin the story, he fucked up the show's setting.
What I'm trying to say is fuck Biba.
>>142972156
Why are we still here....just to suffer?
The body i've lost...the comrades i've lost, won't stop hurting.
>>142969454
SPOILER THIS
>>142968566
It feels electrifying
This show went downhill the moment Biba appeared.
>>142968566
well habanero of the iron curtain is probably just shit but i like to imagine that writers have a little more integrity than to just write a cheap SnK clone and that this is just some passage to build up for some later twist
överall it the same problem that kill la kill had. To the purpose to attract viewers the go all out the first episodes at the expanse of pacing. klk did a better job thou.
>>142972128
AOTS is Kiznaiver or Luluco. Kabaneri is still entertaining though, definitely not as bad as people are treating it
>>142972324
> desperately wants to turn Mumei into a normal human again
> now he has to give up his own humanity to save his friends and stop the evil pink guy
Is there any way this will not turn out horribly clichéd? I enjoyed the dynamic of the first episodes but ever since Biba appeared, everything feels so forced
I really like how she instantly recovered from a knife to the heart.
>>142972150
Were you actually expecting a good plot? I'm just here for the cool action scenes and cheesy buttrock.
Biba ruined this show.
>>142969454
> I expected nothing but still I am dissapointed.png
>>142972679
>Biba ruined this show.
Unanimous truth
Good lord, I haven't this big of a fucked up mistake since Five in Terror of Resonance
>>142972617
it was a takoyaki
>>142972679
>Biba ruined this show.
Anyone knows what the nips feel about him?
>>142972679
He saved the show. It was just a directionless mess before, now it has a great villain for the climax.
>>142972833
Do survival shows need a "big bad"?
>>142972833
Does...does everything need to have a villain? I would've liked if it had gone to the Mushishi/Medicine guy route - exploring and helping villagers with their newfound powers
>>142972872
>Do survival shows need a "big bad"?
A recurring villain? maybe.
A final boss? NYET.
This episode reminded me a lot of Snow Piercer, only a lot worse. If you're a fan of armed revolutions inside moving trains that's a move i'd highly recommend.
RIP Takumi, best bro
I somehow hope he gets asspulled back to life
>>142972833
I mean, this is bait/shitposting/devil's advocate or whatever. There's no way anyone thinks Biba is a great villain.
>>142972285
>Luluco
Yes, exactly.
>Luluco
Yeah, I loved the start but the show really went downhill the second that giant kabane hive thing showed up. Nothing is being explained, the hamfisted badguy was obvious a mile away, and everything except the bro love is retarded.
>>142973205
I think he will. The bullet didn't pierce his heart. He grabbed the stone. He's coming back. Believe it.
Why don't they just shoot Biba?
He's not faster than a bullet.
>>142972679
Sadly.
Punished Venom Ikoma when.
Why's Ikoma cutting his hair?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uvu5nC-IMw
THEY FUCKING KILLED TAKUMI THE BASTARDS! WHY EVEN HAVE A SHOW AT THIS POINT.
Also this story got hamfisted really fucking fast. They should have stuck with zombie killing and screaming like they were good with instead of having Obvius Bad Guy-Sama come in with his stupid gay ass.
>>142972679
Ain't that the truth.
>>142973653
>Why's Ikoma cutting his hair?
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
>>142968736
Grenzlinie is yet to play anon
Who voiced Ikoma? I normally don't take a big notice of voice acting, but I felt like the guy who played him did an excellent job at it.
I hate characters like Biba because their entire thing of ONLY THE STRONG SHOULD SURVIVE LOL philosophy is fucking retarded.
Oh someone sniped your head from million miles away? I guess you werent strong enough to resist the bullet. Fuck its so fucking dumb.
>>142969502
It was because best boy gaijin-kun showed up
>>142973853
Some nobody.
>>142969964
Literally deserves to be raped.
Only good for inducing boners
>>142973653
>more people dead
>moomie turning into a hive
>ikoma gets pissed and starts cutting his hair
If Gaijin-kun doesn't SURVIVE then I will be kind of pissed.
>>142972150
>last episode
He's right there in the preview.
>>142973853
>it's another "ikoma and his VA save the episode" episode
>>142973868
It is retarded, hence why the show largely shows how stupid and destructive it is. If Biba was so strong, why'd he need a legion of goons to carry out his bidding?
Though just because it makes sense that the show shows how bad it is doesn't mean it makes for a good story.
>>142973937
Well he should get more work because he's pretty great.
>>142971249
>She was screwing up things long before Biba was even introduced
She helped about as often as she fucked up though
up until Biba showed up and became ingrained into her entire character from then onwards
>Mumei apologist
Not even, Biba is just extraordinarily shit
>>142973853
A new guy I think. I hope he gets more roles after this
>>142974030
I also hate him for other reasons, but the so blatantly evil and retarded philosophy is the one that shines the brightest.
>>142974018
It actually was too. I was feeling really unimpressed with the episode until Ikoma started talking at the end. The dude knows his shit.
>>142968566
That's actually a fair criticism. It's too predictable now.
What does Japan think of Biba?
Justin Biba?
>>142970351
At least she was able to hit him in a spot that wouldn't kill the guy, so she might well be in partial control.
>>142968566
>two episode left
>>142974382
Probably wwwwww
>>142968566
its OTP
the guy on the LEFT is in love with BIBA
>>142972679
Wrong, Mumei ruined the show on episode 2 and continued to make it terrible until the conclusion of her arc with the hive colony shit. I was actually thinking of picking this up again but now that I won't now that I know it gets even worse.
>>142974568
indeed...
>"tell me how you feel?"
>>142973853
Yeah, I really like the peculiar tone of his voice and how natural/unrehearsed it sounds.
>>142973853
Ikoma spends the entire show yelling. How is that good voice acting? Please elaborate.
>>142971900
Please always buy ticket, or you'll be kicked out.
>>142974647
What answer would have persuaded him to let Kisama-sama join him?
>>142974965
A) No he doesn't you memer.
B) see >>142974859
Why didn't Mumei stab him in his Kabane heart? Why is Biba so edgy? I'm going to call it now. Biba is going to become some Resident Evil villain and inject some of that Kabaneri T-virus into himself when he is inevitably driven to a corner by Punished Ikoma.
>>142975004
>"I love you BIBA" or "BIBA.... Daiii...suukii"
>Anyone blaming on Biba at all
I'll take my time to write something then.
This is a post apocalyptic world where the rules of the old world are long gone and the law of survival rules with an iron fist mainly to the EXCEPTION of the Stations where people safely live their life but even then there's rules on who's in charge and what they do.
Throughout history it is recorded that plenty of Lords/Presidents/Kings/Kaiser/Sultan/Fuhrer/Shogun have sent many of their familiars to their death if they were in a position to replace them in the future JUST so that they could keep their seat for a little longer
Biba being 12 year old boy gets sent as the commander for troops to fight off the war against kabaneri, this is common practice in order to keep up a good appearance for the people but in reality usually they would be held in Garrison/HQ away to keep the boy occupied while doing his job
BUT like he said the supplies stopped coming in and was probably left 4 dead on purpose on orders of his father in order to get rid of him eventually unless the anime proves otherwise
Why else would this faggot have such a vendetta towards his father? No one in the world is determined unless they taste despair in the most personal way eg:Ikoma, Mumei, etc.
>>142975139
I love you Bieber!
>>142969169
All the originals he's in charge of composition for are shit. Code Geass is just as bad as VVV or Guilty Crown but since anons watched it back when they ate shit it lives fondly in their memories.
>>142970010
Explain then
>>142969169
He barely works on anime recently
>>142975169
Bieber is a filler for comedies...
>>142975162
Autist-kun, nobody blames Biba for wanting to take revenge on the shogun/government. That part is justified. The retarded version of social darwinism as well as the slaughter of innocents is what makes him a bad character.
He's so popular that even if he murdered a lord and a few of his men, the general populace wouldn't mind if he told them about the shogunate's betrayal in Kyushu, which would increase the number of his followers and increase his legitimacy. Instead he elects to get as many people as he can killed, just to prove a point that doesn't make any sense.
anyone else think fat bro is gonna survive?
>>142975385
its a train-wreck so he might.
>>142975360
>He's so popular that even if he murdered a lord and a few of his men, the general populace wouldn't mind
You're smart to realize the dumb shitposters apart but can't even tell the difference between Loyalty and Fear
You lucky I can't get my hands on you to show otherwise
>>142974598
You don't make any sense
>>142975385
No way, fat bro is kabane chow now.
He alone could feed dozens of kabanes.
>>142975360
He's clearly insane
>>142975416
i dun think the series is that bad. i mean they could have made mumei be a mary sue all series long, but instead she's basically become #1 damsel in distress after ayame. and her motivations are pretty understandable (i.e. being a dumb impressionable kid). at least she finally got around to telling biba off. the only thing bad with the story so far is how much of a self-centered edge lord biba is. but i guess that's to be expected since he's the shogun's son
>>142969169
>Negima
Huh, didn't expect that.
>>142975416
Only way they could would be if the rock is special, which has been only vaguely hinted before.
>>142975171
>Code Geass is just as bad as VVV or Guilty Crown
Found the retard.
>>142975270
He wrote a couple of episodes of Heavy Object, though I forget which ones.
>>142975527
I guess people just wanted her to be Mikasa and do cool stuff while being protective of the MC and that'd be all.
I told myself this wouldn't end like Guilty Crown;-;
>>142974965
He puts the right amount of emotion. Also, he didn't scream all episode long this week.
>>142975870
It hasn't yet. Guilty Crown ended with the MC being blinded and cucked forever.
>>142975917
If anything the MC cucked her sister with her clone.
>>142975747
Code Geass is clearly worse than the two listed. What a fucking moron.
It's better than Guilty Crown.
I'll give it that.
>>142976107
Only a moron would believe that Code Geass is worse than either of those, so that word describes you perfectly.
>>142976165
So far.
We have two episodes to see what'll happen next.
Makes you realize how this show was carried by muh Mumei. Then she lost her death god gun shooting Mary Sue status and the rest of the show went with it.
>克JOU気MACHINE甲.mp3
the soundtrack is goat
>>142976373
Next of Kin sounds like japanese Maroon 5.I still like it.
>>142972235
>how will they pull it off?
Bad End.
![[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.08_[2016.06.17_12.57.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V6GjyXY.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv snapshot 21.08 [2016.06.17 12.57.23]")
Will the rock end up having magic asspull powers?
This show lost so many supporters here, it's crazy.
Was Ani-sama a mistake?
>>142969169
>Planetes
That explains a lot
>>142972064
quality post
>>142969197
>start off as a cute, sexy, strong female character
More like a cute, sexy, murderous child.
>>142972617
she's a big girl
![[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_11.55_[2016.06.17_23.06.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vdHjIZL.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv snapshot 11.55 [2016.06.17 23.06.26]")
>Ikoma walks out of the cage
>gets called Kisama instantly
>>142976921
FALLING
>>142977083
They're aware of it, aren't they?
>>142973508
he will predict it, just like he predicted Ikoma's revolt. god what a load of crap.
>>142977083
Somebody needs to make a video with all the kisama that has been said through the anime.
>>142975171
Thank God I'm not the only one who believes this. All the anons who watched CG while it was airing (especially with /a/) are still so absorbed by the hype that they can't evaluate the show objectively. Having watched it just a couple of years ago I was baffled by how overrated it is. It's not trash, but just very average.
>>142973508
Ikoma wasn't close enough to shoot him with his steam thing.
>>142976921
A mistake isn't even close. It's a colossal fuckup.
>>142977241
No, but you're still in the minority. Plenty of anons have rewatched CG and still enjoy it, both with and without /a/. There's no such thing as "objectivity" when all you're doing is stating your own subjective opinion.
>>142977093
Trump-san will make the show big again.
>>142977345
Villain shows up and does evil things. Oh my, I can't stand it!
I still wonder what was the turning point.
Was it Biba introduction?
Was it that stop for funeral episode?
Or something completely different?
How did they maange to fuck up so much?
>>142977410
All the show did was become more generic in a way that's unpopular yet not uncommon. There's nothing more complicated to that. Then bandwagons and shitposters take over as they always do.
>>142977375
What I mean is that it doesn't have any element that can qualify it as a masterpiece, which is the status a lot of people judge it with.
The story isn't particularly great, nor the animation, the design, the direction, the soundtrack or the majority of the character cast.
Having what is considered a great character like Leoluch doesn't make a show a masterpiece, nor does having an unexpected finale.
>>142977093
Growth stopped, but they could stabilize with a half-decent finale.
>>142977410
They stopped the fan service and fetish fuel.
>>142977410
The truth is there was no turning point, it was always a dumb blockbuster-style anime. People just realized it more and more as the hype wore off over time
>>142972491
For me it went downhill when the balck kabaneri appeared.
>>142977570
Considering how past works of this creator have turned out, the finale will be the worst part.
>>142977410
The giant zombie titan.
>>142977410
First 6 episodes were about fighting zombies on trains, it was dumb but it was hella good fun. Then there was a slow episode to develop the characters which was fine. At that point they should have got back on the train to the capital and fought more zombies on trains, not introduce Biba.
>>142977566
Nobody is talking about masterpieces right now, yet obviously a lot of people like it for various reasons. Story had its ups and downs but the scale was attractive. The animation had its moments (some of the 2D mecha sakuga was nice), plus the soundtrack was pretty great and the direction was usually solid. Lelouch was an essential part of it, but not the only factor. Of course there's hype behind all popular anime, but that is an universal process.
>>142973853
Yeah i liked how he reacted to Takumi's death. The VA is the guy who did Yuma the MC in Yugioh Zexal
>>142977410
It was Biba as far as I'm concerned.
>>142977710
That remains to be seen. You can't automatically generalize based on one or two examples.
Biba was at the end of the OP
He is going to the capital.
The crew is also going to the capital.
They met. Stuff happened.
>>142977723
That's just more Attack on Titan DNA.
>>142972382
>Final Fantasy technology, complete with bikes, miniguns and tubes that auto-collect blood like it's no big deal.
I mean, they do have trains, anon.
>>142977745
And then they'd still meet up with Biba in the capital. Just with even less time for him to act.
Link to next weeks preview?
>>142976754
the show is a mess and I can't take it seriously at all but YOU DON'T KILL TAKUMI LIKE THIS
NOT LIKE THIS
IKOMA YOU FUCKING IDIOT WHY DIDN'T YOU SHOOT BIEBER IN THE FACE RIGHT THEN AND THERE???
>>142972382
I never expected the show to be all that superior to Final Fantasy, so that doesn't bother me.
>>142977880
I'm saying Biba should not have been in the script at any point.
>>142977908
He couldn't. It's like you didn't notice the distance between them.
>>142974598
>hates Mumei
>posts a picture of Kirino
I mean, it's not like it means you actually like Kirino but, assuming that you do, you've got some pretty awful tastes.
>>142977410
No Anime is great from beginning to end. Thats almost impossible to accomplish. Only Anime for now i can think of is Medabots.
>>142977936
Too late. He existed from day one of the anime and a couple of anons were already mentioning him
>>142970150
>why does every character get punked by the baton guy?
Holy shit, I know. Like jesus nobody ever fights back against him.
Literally everyone he's beaten just takes it. It's getting annoying.
>>142977746
I have no problem with CG as been evaluated as a good anime, which is why I agree with almost all the points you make.
What I can't wrap my mind around is seeing it in 3x3 lists ecc. If you take a look at any site you'll see CG with scores close to perfection, a level that the series doesn't reach in any category. Those sites may have shit taste or whatever, but it's pretty undeniable that CG is highly scored everywhere.
Since as you said, there's hype behind every popular title, and that contributes to how it's judged, the only thing I can justify this with is that CG has a really disproportionate hype in relation to the quality of its single elements, and that affects how it's judge a lot more than most titles.
Yet another example of people treating something mediocre as if it's some sort of personal offense.
>>142972679
Agreed. Instead of it being about how the passengers rally together, get stronger and fight off the Kabane horde, the plot now revolves around Super McBadass and his retarded motivations for being a piece of shit.AND HE KILLED TAKUMI. FUCK YOU, BIBA.
>>142977996
3x3 lists are full of personal favorites. That's suppose to be the point. Or Are you going to say we should only put Miyazaki or Oshii and Anno works in those? Scores of 8 or 9 over ten aren't that unusual among very popular anime, so you shouldn't be surprised about that happening. People give high marks to what they enjoy and low scores to what they don't. It's not a science. If you have a problem with this, you should realize it's a systemic issue, not with this one series.
>Takumi dies
I thought this show couldn't get any worse, but it still does.
>>142972617
I hope in the end Yukina drives Sukari homegently.
>>142977952
spray and pray
![[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_20.03_[2016.06.17_16.25.08].png](https://i.imgur.com/jwdetdt.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv snapshot 20.03 [2016.06.17 16.25.08]")
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCK ITS THE SAME FUCKING ARM
>>142978166
Takumi had too many death flags. Can't get upset over that, IMHO.
>Gets called the next SNK
>starts good, has good setting but turns to shit
Hey they were right!
>>142978190
He can regenerate, so its OK.
>>142975917
assuming he isn't getting sweet sweet hand jobs from that sexy cripple every day
>>142978232
Just like SNK.
>>142978234
all humans can, Ikoma just has it faster. this arm is a goner.
>>142978180
anyone get hard with that scene where yukina was giving the bottle of blood to ikoma in his cell? they had to set the camera to be on the ground with yukina looking down at it like it was an insect
>>142977410
when they spent 2 episodes trying to pull trash out of a bridge
>Hey I just killed your best friend how do you feel about that
>>142972150
He's gonna be the first thing next episode, floating in a river, picked up by a girl, wakes up in a tent with his wounds patched up, he listens to her village's story, then goes back to fight with one more reason to defeat the bad guy.
>>142978232
it is like pottery uh really makes you wonder
>>142978390
>with his wounds patched up
Yeah gotta get that arm reattached.
Biba just gets more ridiculous every episode.
There's no coming back from all this bullshit, at this point I just want ikoma to become a living colony and fuck shit up
>>142978097
The 3x3 is just an example, maybe not a fitting one. However the sample size of anime sites is enough to indicate if there's a general consensus or not. Looking at top lists, CG is the only one that to me looks out of place especially because I can't recognize any element which makes it a masterpiece, not even the sum of its parts, which is a thing I can see in basically every other title rated so highly (at least one element with excellent execution).
The hype for CG has basically never decreased here on /a/, you can't call it bad without being called a retarded, which is not a thing that happened to other highly rated titles (S;G for example).
>nobody even wants to fap to Mumei anymore
We need to turn this negativity around
What the fuck is his problem?
>>142978450
Kill yourself.
I'm still wondering when the fuck these Kabane scenes from the pv are going to appear
>>142972400
>Kurusu...I'm already a Kabane
>>142978605
that's really rude from your part
How are they going to air episode 13? The episode 2 delay fucked with the scheduling, are they going to delay the next show in the timeslot as well or will they air the last Kabaneri episode on Niconico or something?
>>142978560
Like father, like son
>>142978608
Fuck, why did you have to remind me? This show was better when it was PvE, going PvP just made it go to shit.
>>142978190
He needed to lose an arm to attach his jackhammer weapon. He's literally a Guts ripoff, right down to the white patch of hair.
>>142978664
It's on amazon first anon
>gone for a while
>everyone hates this show now
I was planning on starting it when it ends but should I just skip it now? What happened?
>>142978608
I can't imagine anything like this showing up any more.
VIVA LA BIBA hijacked the entire fucking show
Everyone dies at the end of episode 12.
Screencap this.
>>142978537
I do. Rock on, shoujo!
>>142978705
Watch until episode 7. Biba happened.
>>142978705
>should I just skip it now?
Yes, god yes. Avoid this turd.
>What happened?
It introduced a shitty generic villain who overthrew the original premise of humans vs. zombies and now the plot is boring and shitty as fuck.
>>142978560
10
YEARS
AGO
>>142978705
Yeah do this
>>142978747
>>142978799
>It introduced a shitty generic villain who overthrew the original premise of humans vs. zombies and now the plot is boring and shitty as fuck.
Good basic explanation.
>>142978664
There is no episode 13 anon
>>142978847
Sorry, I meant episode 12. In the original schedule episode 12 is supposed to air next week but the delays messed with that.
>>142970546
She was shit as early as episode 3-4 and became worse with every episode.
>>142978705
It started out fine, but then the writer got a sudden case of "recycling every cliche plot twist, and plot device you've ever seen in every action anime before" for whatever dumb reason. Also, Mumei went from "badass vampire ninja" to "fumbling naive airhead who needs rescuing" in a couple of episodes, which everyone hated.
>>142979046
This, I know people loved her because muh action loli and fanservice, but god her personality was grating and arrogant as fuck.
>spend inital weeks in awe of that foreboding figure at the end of the OP, wondering who it could be
>the episodes built up the coming threat of Mumei's brother
>oh shit that's gotta be him, shit this dude looks like trouble
>mfw he turns out to be the worst character in the series
>>142978510
I think a lot of them are out of place. Take Gintama. It's a very good show, but not THE BEST as MAL would make you think.
>>142972172
>Super Habanero
God fucking dammit anon
>>142972172
>>142971900
>power levels will be introduced into the series
>Gaijin-kun's visor is revealed to be a scanner that quantifies a habanero's Scoville units
>>142979120
well that's a bummer
>>142978537
Silly goose. Mumei is only good for fapbait now.
>>142979168
I totally agree on Gintama, but with a long running franchise like that, which is split in different series the explanation is easy, and it's in the fact that only people who really liked previous installments are going to watch them (and basically no one else), and since they are fans they are likely to rate it very highly.
>>142972400
>lost arm
>has one eye covered
>lost everything
>already a kabane
>girl he protected betrayed him
is this truly the metal gear anime we've been waiting for?
![[HorribleSubs]-Kabaneri-of-the-Iron-Fortress---10-[720p].mkv_snapshot_18.34_[2016.06.17_16.22.gif](https://i.imgur.com/YgM1VmV.gif "[HorribleSubs]-Kabaneri-of-the-Iron-Fortress -10-[720p].mkv snapshot 18.34 [2016.06.17 16.22")
>Based bro might be ded
>>142979435
Just needs a horn
>>142979518
>might
>>142979518
why did it work in the preview
fuck I dont feel like fixing it
>>142978537
Though I dislike Mumei I really hope it doesn't slow down the production of her lewds.
baton guy: 3
kabaneris: 0
This show is retarded
At least the artwork is pretty nice.
>>142979558
There is a reason why Takumi grabbed the magic rock. Plus he wasn't completely dead when he got shot. The magic rock will save him screencap this
>>142978537
She's 12!
12!
>no blue flash when Ikoma is stabbed
How fucking obvious can they get with this kind of storytelling?
>>142979783
She's blatantly lying about her age.
Why did they have to turn Mumei into MUH ANI-SAMA fucking christ
>>142972617http://i.imgur.com/qDCLzd8.jpg
>>142979825
She was a retard from the start
>muh habanero
>muh gimme blood
>muh good thing your dog died
>>142979825
She was always muh anii sama from the start though.
>>142979888
I know right. Why would you stab someone before throwing them out of a train?
>>142979791
>THE WEAK DESERVE TO DUE
>Show kills two random kids within like 5 minutes
Subtlety isn't this show's strong suit
![[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_16.20_[2016.06.17_10.17.55].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VGv4zL3.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv snapshot 16.20 [2016.06.17 10.17.55]")
>>142979870
>>142979825
Because she was already like that starting from episode one if you payed attention. She kept mentioning her ani-sama any chance she could.
>>142979870
It's a good job that little heart is positioned there, or I might have been offended.
>>142979825
Did you not watch episode 1?
>>142978537
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56613283
>>142979661
>random stone from river is going to save the day, just because it still holds some "loli power" from Ikoma's little sister
Even after all the disappointment, I still wanted the plot to have some sort of self-respect and not fall so low. My expectations were too high.
>>142978560
Too hot to live.
>>142978608
I don't know why, but while watching the PV I thought there would be some giant zombies.
>>142978537
best armpits of the season
>>142978560
BIBA DINDU NOTHIN
>>142979825
People complaining about Mumei were too busy fapping. Maybe you should turn your brain off again.
>>142970490
glorious fucking post
Well I'm going through pixiv and fapping to Mumei tonight
>>142979661
Takumi was carrying a bottle of blood which stopped the bullet. Ikoma's imouto's soul gem saves Takumi. Mumei missed deliberately and overcomes her brainwashing through the power of friendship.Ikoma catches up with the train with some radical surfing.
>>142973853
The same guy who voices Ushio. His screams are top fucking notch.
>>142980316
>>142973853
No shit? Not the anon you replied to but I just got into Ushio and Tora and yeah, that guy's a fantastic fucking seiyuu
>>142969454
Yeah but where's the trains
>>142980308
Ikoma will see Kurusu on the tracks using one of those pump hand carts and join him as they catch up to the train in a hilarious way similar to Shoe's segway
>>142979145
I was so fucking disappointed, man.
His silhouette looked ominous as fuck in the OP, his chara design is 11/10 and THIS is what they do with him?
What a waste.
>>142977410
>Was it that stop for funeral episode?
The downtime episodes were some of the best. Too bad Araki probably won't ever realise that since he literally has ADHD.
>>142980316
He has a powerful voice. But I thought his screamy crying in this episode was too clichéd. Though that's not really his fault.
>>142978807
JEW NEN MY
Biba has autism. Hope nothing bad happens to Yukina for being double traitor
>>142980766
>Yukina
You mean Sukari?
Biba did nothing wrong. I would do the same thing if I were left for dead.
Say what you want about Biba but his faces are 10/10 for posting.
>>142980468
I think you mean he will ride up on horseback and offer a hand to pull Ikoma onto the horse, but they will be positioned so that Ikoma instinctively raises his severed arm. A moment of silence will pass between the two as the shot reverses between their bloodied visages, then they both laugh and steel themselves for pursuit.
>>142980810
Or right, Sukari
>>142980832
I would keep the women around instead of killing them off.
>>142978537
I want to wipe down her sweaty tits and cunny after a hard day of fighting not-zombies.
>>142980832
He probably got left for dead because his father realized he was a comic book supervillain but couldn't get away with just having him killed.
If his beef was just with his father, that'd be one thing, but he seems to delight in getting innocents involved in his bullshit.
Cant avoind comparing the last episode with the ending of berserk's golden age
> Ikoma's friend is killed by Biba
> While not raped, Mumeis is forced to obey Biba
> Ikoma loses an arm in the process
Is Biba the new Griffith?
Why do people say this is bad writing?
>>142981047
Because most of this show's audience comprises of people who disliked AoT for its still shots, and decided to hate the plot as well to further their agenda. They see the show as being an extension of AoT (rightfully so, same story, same director, same animation team) and have only come to bash.
The show is honestly way better than most of what /a/ watches nowadays. Ofc, its not legendary, and Araki's direction cant properly work with music, as usual, but overall it's at least a 5.5/8
>>142980904
He looks good absolutely everywhere.
How's that even possible?
>>142981199
He has handsome even as a kid.
>>142981047
Because it is.
Doesn't mean it's not enjoyable. I'm having a blast with this shit.
>>142981043
Fuck off berserkfag
>>142968736
welcome to the world of sawano the hack
now try playing xenoblade chronicles x
Hard mode:
-Actually understand what everyone is saying without subtitles even though the music drown out everything
-stay immersed even though almost none of the music is fitting(or good)
though at the end of the day he only pissed on what was already going to fail
>>142980904
This is true
>>142969169
He's done a lot of good and a lot of bad, huh...
>>142979870
Best thing to come out of the show tbqh
>>142973653
>Ikoma cuts his hair
>Character Development (IE, becomes edgy for a while and later has a peaceful resolution fueled by friendship)
>Bluemei becomes a hive, Ikoma has to kill her
>Instead, he pulls her out and takes over the hive
>Bluekoma kills Biba with the weight of 1000 Kabane
>>142971900
An old Artisan Blacksmith was fishing near. He found Ikoma and takes him to his house. After healing his wounds and with the help of the blacksmith, Ikoma build his own mech arm with an steam crossbow on it. Then, the blacksmith give him a big ass sword.
Oh and Ikoma finds a crazy badass black magical armor while going back.
Ikoma's gun can't fire at range, can it? It can only act like a rivet gun in that it needs a surface before it can puncture, right?
>>142981772
Too bad the blacksmith made a mech arm FOR the wrong arm anon.
>>142981834
TOP KEK
There are only 2 episodes left?
No rumors about a possible split-cour or anything?
>>142981794
Yup, that's why he has to come in close range to Kabane in order to use it
I hope they just skip past the big dumb final confrontation and go ahead to Ikoma and gang eating rice in a paddy field somewhere
it's dumb anyway so who cares even
>>142979888
Before she was a retard who atleast managed to pull through/undo her fuck ups by the end
now she's just a retard
>>142981772
>read pic's name
my sides
>>142981918
The block is already booked until next spring
>>142981169
>The show is honestly way better than most of what /a/ watches nowadays
Bullshit. This show is trash. I'm not sure there was a single on-screen action taken in any of the skirmishes through the episode. So many fucking still pans and hard cuts. The writing is the most cliched shit imaginable. As soon as Ikoma and his bro had their scene together, it was clear he was going to die. The reason such scenes are deathflags is that shitty writing makes them stick out as being unusual to the types of things that the viewer has been shown. It was the same way with muscle-chan's husbando's deception.
The only thing good about the show was the concept of feudal Japanese steampunk with train based society against zombies and the visual design that was created to match that. The concept died as soon as they decided to have Kabaneri be a thing, let alone making the MC into one. It should have just stayed a story of survival against dire odds as Ikoma struggled to have his rational views and improved inventions recognized by their hierarchical society. Everything beyond that has been either a straight rip from SnK or plot writing 101 with no editorial oversight.
I'd hope for them to lose money on this so they realize they can't keep making SnK over and over, but with the way they cut corners, that seems a vain hope.
>>142981627
>>142980904
>>142980504
>>142978560
Does Biba have any QUALITY shots?
It's like he's perfect everywhere
>>142982039
It's still way better than most of what /a/ watches nowadays.
>>142981772
How the fuck is he going to catch up with the train using that big ass sword and heavy armor anon?
>>142982258
Stop this meme. I'm watching a dozen shows this season and Kabaneri is still the worst. Only Haifuri comes close to being as bad.
>>142982258
Not >>142982039, but hes fucking right. This show is a fucking mess with a nice concept but ruined because we had to become SnK #2.
>>142982351
>but hes fucking right
I know he's right and I agree with what he said. But it doesn't change the fact that this show is much better than the usual harem/reincarnation/chuuni garbage.
>>142982170
He's literally the only character for which the word QUALITY can and should be used unironically at all times.
>>142982339
I bet you like Flying Shit
>>142982339
I should remind you there are people who legitimately want a second season of Umaru, or watch Non Non Biyori.
>>142982440
It's like he's trying to seduce us
>>142982431
If I was told this was adapted from some garbage light novel I wouldn't even blink an eye, it's on the exact same level as all that trash
>>142982431
Netoge, Re Zero, and Delta are much better than piece of shit.
>>142982440
How can a single character be so horribly written yet simultaneously so consistently beautifully drawn?
>>142982575
>Netoge
>>142982258
>It's still way better than most of what /a/ watches nowadays.
Okay anon, what shows is it that "most of what /a/ watches nowadays" that Kabaneri is better than?
Just to be clear, I'm pretty sure at this point Guilty Crown is miles above Kabaneri and I really dislike that show
>>142982351
Meh, SnK never "became" a mess the way Kabaneri did. You knew what you were getting into from episode 2 onwards.
Kabaneri literally jumped the shark and I can say without a doubt that it's really, really worse than SnK atm.
>>142982170
I laughed when this showed up. What the fuck is this expression? Biba apparently dips into the mind rape drugs. That would explain why his plan is so pathetically inept.
>>142982258
Well I guess it is better than Mayoiga. Is Endride considered something that is watched? Actually it might be even with Endride in terms of writing.
I watch Hundred for fanservice and still enjoy any non-idol episode of that more than any episode of Kabaneri after the first. Emilia's fight against the brown loli was better than anything shown in Kabaneri.
>>142982476
Flying Witch is objectively a better show than Kabaneri. I'm pretty sure there is more animation in FW too. The comfy country living and slice of life format make it pretty light on writing, but what is there is far cleaner than the mess of blandness propelling Kabaneri.
>>142982480
>or watch Non Non Biyori.
How is that worse than liking the mainstream predictable shitfest that is Kabaneri?
Does this count as a harem end?
>>142982575
>Re Zero
>>142982621
>Guilty Crown is miles above Kabaneri
It is.
Gai > Biba
Inori > Mumei
Hitler > Ikoma
>>142982431
>But it doesn't change the fact that this show is much better than the usual harem/reincarnation/chuuni garbage.
No it's not. It had the potential to be good but it ended up just as cliche and stupid as the chuuni garbage you're arguing against. It's literally on the same level. I don't understand how you can pretend this is at some kind of higher ground than what you probably consider the usual schlok considering the direction the show has gone in the past 3 episodes. Don't even try to bring up the animation
>>142982575
The two people Netoge is centered around the most are the worst characters.
>>142982654
>Well I guess it is better than Mayoiga
Nobody is actually watching Mayoiga. They're memeing at it but nobody actually likes that show anymore. I doubt anybody truly did after episode 3 or so
>>142982575
>Re Zero
>>142982708
Ako is more competently written than any character in Kabaneri. Rusian is also a better MC.
>>142982741
>better animation
>better plot
>better characters
>suddenly a bunch of fags trying to justify that their shit is better then this shit
>>142982753
Yeah, she's consistently shit. And no, MC turns into a complete faggot around her. The show would be better if it was roleplaying hi-jinks with the other club members.
>>142982753
I somehow misread "Ako" as "Akio", and was suddenly reminded of the great villain Biba could've been.
>>142982802
I liked this thread better when it was just a bunch of fags that enjoy this show getting upset about it jumping the shark.
This shit was so cliche that I paused my screen and just stared at it.
>>142972101
He lover this one particular industrial grinding sound is the only way I can describe it in particular
>>142982258
Concrete Revolutio is better.
Anne Happy is better.
JoJo is better.
Macross is better.
Sakamoto is better.
Luluco is better.
Flying Witch is better.
There's probably a lot more anime from this season I didn't pick up that are better, but you get the idea.
Kabaneri is shit, first it was about fighting zombies in cool ways and then it decided to stop being that then it became irredeemably shit. It's actually similar to Haifuri in that way, that show couldn't decide what the fuck it wanted to do with its premise and died out from the lack of focus.
>>142982861
>I liked this thread better when it was just a bunch of fags that enjoy this show getting upset about it jumping the shark.
Well the small group of remaining fans of this shitpile got in here trying to default to some other show
>>142982859
Mumei's actions would be more logical if they showed that Biba was fucking her daily and she was totally in love with his massive cock.
>>142968566
How is it that, with only 13 episodes, so many anime manage to go to shit despite promising starts? Other shows take literal years.
>>142982696
The setting alone already places it above any kind of reincarnation / harem / cute girls doing cute things rehash.
And it's a one cour series so it's not possible to have whatever unrealistic expectations people were having about a "story of survival against dire odds as Ikoma struggled to have his rational views and improved inventions recognized by their hierarchical society"
>>142982871
>paused my screen
Fuck
clicked pause
>>142972118
I'd say Turn A Gundam but even then it happens. Its actually well handled and foreshadowed though and the guy the does the betrayal almost immediately regrets it albeit for selfish reasons
>>142972251
Sony is in charge of music and sound direction for this show I believe. For Titan it was Pony Canyon
>>142982922
>The setting alone
I'm going to stop you right there
A setting is a fantastic foundation but if you fuck up the execution of what happens around the setting it doesn't matter because it's going to be wasted with the show's terrible writing. It's the same problem with what happened to AoT
>And it's a one cour series so it's not possible to have whatever unrealistic expectations people were having about a "story of survival against dire odds
Except it was doing this just fine for the first six episodes with no Biba or revolution subplot needed. I'm not going to say everybody was enjoying the show but it felt like it had a far better, simpler grasp of it's itself in the first half
>>142982922
The setting doesn't matter, it's what you do with the setting that matters. And Kabaneri does jack shit with the setting, midway trough the show it threw it all out in favor of motorcycles.
>>142982914
>mfw that's actually true
>>142982922
>The setting alone already places it above any kind of reincarnation / harem / cute girls doing cute things rehash.
That's a point against it. The setting only reminds you of how good it could have been if it wasn't written by hacks.
>And it's a one cour series so it's not possible to have whatever unrealistic expectations people were having about a "story of survival against dire odds as Ikoma struggled to have his rational views and improved inventions recognized by their hierarchical society"
That's not exactly a complicated plot that needs 2 cours. Movies have done similar things in half the running time that Kabaneri got.
>>142982654
Endride isn't that bad though. I'd consider it better than Cereberus. It's a generic but pretty cozy fantasy story.
>>142982939
>I'd say Turn A Gundam
That's a Tomino show. Okuchi just helped on it
>>142982921
The head people involved worked on Guilty Crown and Valvrave, you tell me
![[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.05_[2016.06.17_18.48.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xvmpjFF.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 10 [720p].mkv snapshot 10.05 [2016.06.17 18.48.26]")
BIBA-SAMA
PREDICTOR OF REVOLTS
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>>142983020
>mfw literal NTR would make perfect sense to justifying a character's actions instead of the shit this show is giving us
>>142982431
I guess so. The only series I am watching are:
> Kabaneri
I really had high expectations from this series and Joker Game (i just want to know how the fuck are they going to end it by now)
> Phoenix Wright
cause of nostalgia from the games.
>JoJo
cause its fun as hell.
>Luluco
JUSTICE!!! and its only 5 minutes.
The rest can go suck a dick.
>>142982258
This point is only made by people who watch the most popular shows of the season, or don't watch seasonally at all.
>>142972267
Its just the show that got the most attention cause people are stupid and just follow big names around that haven't actually put out a good show in years. Its like they cling to the hope that they'll magically put out a great show again despite the conditions in the industry and mind set of the people actually calling the shots on things (ie. The production committee) being entirely different from even a few years ago. Anime doesn't get good again until either it breaks away from production committee Strangleholds on content and creation or people stop buying this shit and force a change and I see the latter happening before the former. As long as anime can easily get by and be profitable on character designs its whaling business model and pimping the same hack staff over and over again it's going to be shit and Guilty Crowns, Aldnoahs and Kabaneris will keep happening
>>142982621
>I'm pretty sure at this point Guilty Crown is miles above Kabaneri
Nah, not really. That's BS.
>the best anime at the start of the season became the worst
>the worst anime at the start of the season became the best
why does this always happen
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>>142983117
Figures that the people who praise this show in any way are mainstream normalshits who don't really watch anime.
>>142973853
This is one of the most criticized aspects of the show in Japan. This guy was so unpopular in one of the Yugioh shows he got cast as the main in they ended up having to fire him and change seiyuu because the ratings were apparently dropping.
>>142983283
Japan once again showing their shit taste
>>142983185
>Nah, not really. That's BS.
No I'm 100% serious. I don't like GC like at all, but at least that stupid shit went all in with it's stupidity. At least the ridiculous Shurer arc was actually amazing to watch instead of this dumb cliche fest. At least Inori stayed best or at least, top girl all the way to the end instead of whatever the fuck they're doing with Mumei right now.
Remember this scene? Pretty dumb right? But at least it was in line with her character. I don't even think they remember what Mumei's appeal was anymore, she doesn't even kick zombie ass compared to being a dumbass all about MUH ANI-SAMA
>>142981772
>that pic and filename
>this entire post
Heh. God-tier stuff dude.
>>142983283
Except that never happened. Tasuku Hatanaka voiced Yuma for the whole series and Zexal, the show you're talking about, had better average ratings than the previous, 5DS
>>142983211
What do you mean, Luluco has been the best since episode one, though it briefly lost that status during the reference planet episodes.
>>142983211
>the best anime at the start of the season became the worst
Kabaneri was not the best of the season.
>the worst anime at the start of the season became the best
Haifuri is still shit
>>142983317
See, you're being counter-intuitive about this. No, going all out with stupidity would be worse, not better. Inori sucked all the way through. I didn't care for the scene you posted.
>>142983317
Come to think about it, wasn't the part last episode where whatsherface goes super kabaneri basically just a rehash of that
>>142983410
>luluco
>trigger memefest
>good
Go back to /v/
>>142968566
I was thinking how similar to Guilty Crown this has gotten. Then I finally realised who the director was.
If it had 20+ episodes, I wonder if we'd see concentration camps again.
>>142982871
You think that was cliche? Pic related was more cliche than that
>>142983502
It's like pottery. It rhymes.
>>142983483
>See, you're being counter-intuitive about this.
No I'm not
>No, going all out with stupidity would be worse
I never said it was good. I'm saying it at least gave us something fun to watch.
Also I don't care whether you liked Inori or not, my point was they didn't suddenly drop her appeal to the people who liked her in the last stretch of the show unlike Mumei
>>142982800
Hahahahaha. Re Zero is literally baby first novel. The animation is lame. No fights. Harem. Moeshit. Generic character designs. Edgy try hard MC. Literally the worst of this season
>>142983185
Guilty Crown was way more entertaining. But that's mainly because GC had more time to warm up.
>>142972128
>implying Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou isn't AOTS
>>142982575
Re:Zero is way more by-the-book than Kabaneri. It's a typical "trapped in a fantasy world" LN. Even its title is overused.
>>142983700
You sound like the cancer plaguing /a/ recently
>>142983700
>buzzwords: the post
The animation is way better than Kabaneri's at least. The scene with the knight in episode 3 is better than any scene in Kabaneri, and Re Zero isn't low enough to use stills.
>>142983823
This the part where we use words without knowing what they mean?
>By the book
Other than guy gets transported to a fantasy world foundation, please feel free to point out how
Biba killed this show.
>>142983700
I've never seen Re:Zero but this is literally "buzzwords:the post" and you need to sudoku immediately
>>142983505
It's a more interesting animation than anything else, and that's what counts. We need more experimental shit like Luluco rather than recycled garbage like Kabaneri.
>>142983525
It got pretty close with the forced blood extractions and such.
>>142983629
I'd say that is one of the better lines in the episode though. The one sort of consistent streak with him has been the stuff with Horobi and Mumei fearing him and that getting talked about. This is sort of an extension of that where he is reaching out to Ikoma to see if they are equals. Mumei's scene with him was the only good scene in the episode, though it was ruined by the baton assassin. Mind raping her is just complete melodrama because it's already clear she'll get saved. They tossed Kurusu and the macguffin off the train, and now Ikoma went to join them.
>>142983875
Bakemonogatari had better animation when it aired than Kabaneri does at this point.
>>142971249
Without Mumei the entire cast would be dead and that train would have never made it out.
You can point at her and say she made mistakes but she's the only reason any of them are alive.
She's also a child with a tragic backstory who has been lead to believe for years that Biba is a hero who has people's best interest at heart.
>>142982975
Oh, that would make sense, then.
>>142983629
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>>142982802
Biba is literally the King of Autism.
>>142984255
Whoa saving all their asses once, which she needed to to save her own, clearly makes the rest of her retardation okay.
Mumei apologists are nuts.
>>142983875
I'm so fucking tired of Araki's stills with speedlines spam in every show he works on.
>>142984636
>>142984528
why
>>142984255
Without Ayame's master key the entire cast would be dead and that train would have never made it out.
You can point at her and say she made mistakes but she's the only reason any of them are alive.
>>142984683
You mean like the plethora in this very episode? Did anyone count how many there were or how much screentime they take up?
>>142982636
Kabaneri simply had a generic evil doer show up. Which is lame, but the fact you think this is really the worst thing ever is pure exaggeration.
>>142977375
>minority
Who cares? If we go by what the majority thinks Naruto is good. How much of a fucking tool do you have to be to care about the majority when its all retards following the atmosphere.
>>142983317
People complain about Inori being bland, but she got developed over the course of the show, from a girl that just got released from a laboratory and had problems understanding her own emotions, to a loyal and supportive girl making her own decisions (ignoring Gai's orders, letting Shu into Gai's room, acting as a decoy, sacrifice). Mumei started cute and likeable, but then everything started going downhill for her, with her acting stupid and stubborn all the time. She may have an excuse of being 12 years old, but it doesn't mean we have to ignore her pretty awful personality.
Inori was cute and thanks to her music is still popular 4 years later. Mumei will be forgotten within a month after everyone gets their mandatory fap. Hopefully.
>>142983073
Actually it wouldn't. But you're all pervs, so you believe NTR would have any relevance here.
>>142983525
No, because there's very little similarity to Guilty Crown unless you're an idiot who makes mountains out of molehills. Which you really seem to be.
>>142984784
Except Mumei was more than capable of hunting down her corpse and retrieving the key.
Meanwhile without Mumei they would have had no way to kill the Kabane and would have taken severe casualties getting to the train assuming they made it there at all.
Ikoma would have just let himself be killed due to his depression.
![[OZC]Planetes E24 'Love'.mkv_snapshot_24.23_[2016.04.07_07.51.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/s8ApI92.jpg "[OZC]Planetes E24 'Love'.mkv snapshot 24.23 [2016.04.07 07.51.15]")
>>142976975
>>142970488
>Code Geass which had its problems too mind you, just not to quite the same degree
I wish Code Geass was airing today since /a/ would rip it to shreds as much as they're doing to Kabaneri.
>>142984852
I never said it became the worst thing ever, anon: just that the show significantly dropped in quality with Biba's introduction.
I'm not really enjoying myself that much, but I wouldn't call the show terribad either.
Just a mess, and a pretty damn mediocre one at that.
>>142984875
Hopefully not, because that would mean the world is full of retards like yourself.
>>142970387
Theme for everyone who's hated this show since episode one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=strUIdYbuMk
>>142984958
They'd complain about some things, sure, which happened even back then, but Code Geass wasn't trying to be so grimdark and also had better main characters. So trying to just blindly substitute one show for another really makes you look silly.
>>142985037
It didn't have tons of speedlines over stills for half of every robot fight scene either.
>>142971577
HoTD had a fuckton of vanilla doujins.
>>142972679
>Biba ruined this show.
Nah he's just a scapegoat because it took this long for people to realize they were watching shit
>>142978537
I literally fapped three times last night to her thanks to that fapfic anon posted in the prior threads
>>142985009
Hating on the show was dumb, but hopping on bandwagons is even worse so at least they look consistent.
>>142985037
>but Code Geass wasn't trying to be so grimdark
Coul of fooled me.
>>142985084
Biba is the only thing everyone or at least most people can agree to identify as the problem. Before him, most folks were cool with it and still would be.
>>142985077
Instead it had lots of QUALITY and noodle people
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>>142983969
Do you seriously believe this Moeshit is better than anything from this season? FUCK Kabaneri is shit but Re Zero is even worse than Kiznaiver
>>142985135
Then maybe you weren't paying attention, considering the rest of the episode preceding that scene was much lighter in tone. So yes. It's not as grimdark as zombie apocalypse and Biba going nihilistic.
They showed some Britannians murdering Elevens about two or three times in total, but that was it. The majority of Code Geass wasn't focusing on that sort of content.
>>142985145
>Before him, most folks were cool with it and still would be.
No? Most people complained about the shitty characters, the inconsistent animation and how dumb the plot was. Or are you just going to magically ignore those Frodos? Seriously why are you faggots such tools? Most people were shitting on this show before Biba came about it just so happens that his introduction came about when the show got really dumb when it was already dumb before. Looking back the previous episodes weren't any better.
>>142985258
If it has cute girls that is enough to make it AOT for /a/. You know where you are right?
>>142985177
Noodle people yes, but that's the CLAMP art style. That's not QUALITY since their proportions are not realistic even on the key art. There was some regular QUALITY too, but also more highlights with decent animation, including the robot fights. Wit can't even do that consistently.
>>142985272
>considering the rest of the episode preceding that scene was much lighter in tone.
Yeah terrorist bombings, public sweepings, more violence. All very light in tone. I'm not even sure why I'm quoting you since you're the same obsessive Geassfag who defends every aspect of it.
>>142985286
>Most people complained
Anon, it's like you want to re-write history from barely a couple of weeks ago. They were NOT the majority. For every person who complained, there were two or three who were alright with the show, even outside of 4chan.
Ep 11 will have a closed screening to a limited audience. Don't expect spoilers any time soon, if at all. I'll keep a watch on the thread.
>>142969169
>Golden Age movies
I understand why this show is shit now.
>>142985258
>moeshit
You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
>>142985379
Don't play dumb. The terrorist bombing was only in the news and no details were shown. The public sweepings are all part of the same sequence of Britannian violence. There was some violence and death, yes, but not to the same degree as in a zombie apocalypse scenario. Again, if you really want to ignore that the tone was a lot lighter in OTHER scenes and most other episodes, then be that way. It makes you look foolish as hell though.
>>142984958
This. It seems like we're only "required" to not be hard on it because it was a board anime where everyone who was too young at the time praised it to high heavens and have nostalgia for it. Looking back Code Geass was as tonally confused as Akame ga Kill, had even more stupid ass moments than VVV, and Guilty Crown combined and Lelouch was as edgy as Biba but we can't see anything about it because MUH BOARD CULTURE yet its okay to shit on TTGL despite how crazy we were for it back then.
>>142985286
Before Biba's introduction the threads were gigantic circlejerks and most complaints (including your odd Frodo here and there) would be shut down very quickly.
Dissident voices were a very small and not so vocal minority.
>>142985500
>nobody ever says anything bad about Code Geass
You must lurk for at least two years before you are allowed to post on /a/.
>>142985385
>re-write history
Let's see..this web, was made on 5/11/2016 so people were well aware of the stills and speedlines this show had.
>They were NOT the majority. For every person who complained, there were two or three who were alright with the show, even outside of 4chan.
Now who's rewriting history.
>>142985379
>I'm not even sure why I'm quoting you since you're the same obsessive Geassfag who defends every aspect of it.
Because you're either a hater or a troll who can't even admit something as simple as a show about literal zombie apocalypse giving the proceedings a darker tone than one where the setting wasn't quite as submerged in desperation and murder.
>>142985258
You're right, Kiznaiver, Kabaneri and ReZ are all trash at the bottom of this season's heap along with Mayoiga. Complete wastes of effort, for as little of that as was put in.
Funnily enough, it is a great season for the actual "moeshit." Flying Witch, Sansha Sanyou, and Anne Happy are all stellar.
>>142985572
And thanks for proving my point you fucking jackass,
>>142985457
The movies were decent recaps. The problem was the shit 3DCG and the fact they were even made in the first place meant not enough time to avoid cutting stuff out. Berserk needs to be adapted in a TV serial format, or else it's not worthwhile.
>>142985350
You're talking out your ass.
>>142985605
>Bakuon, Kuma Miko, and Anne Happy are all stellar
Fixed.
>>142969197
She's 12
>>142974400
It even kinda suits him.
>>142985500
Code Geass was retardedly fun. I couldn't watch it alone, but watching it with people it was great. Plus the greatest OP of all time JIBUN WOOO
>>142985479
>>142985591
>the same obsessive Geassfag who defends every aspect of it.
>>142985500
You're not "required" to do anything. Akame ga Kill was a lot more extreme than Code Geass ever tried to be.
Lelouch had more reasons to be angry than Biba and he didn't go out and murder everyone just to have his revenge without giving a damn about human life, so that complain is nonsense.
>>142985656
You haven't checked out the mecha scenes on sakuga wiki then.
>>142985685
>Code Geass was retardedly fun.
Of course it was fun. More fun then it had any fucking right to be but it got really fucking bad in R2. Not many shows nowadays can go as far as Code Geass did and its obvious that /a/ wants another show just like it which is why shitty shows like Mayogai get pushed to high heavens when it doesn't have the same appeal.
>>142985685
Code Geass was a great rollercoaster. It combined retarded fun with cool stuff that regular crazy shows lack. JIBUN WOOO was nice too.
>>142985718
>the same obsessive Geassfag who defends every aspect of it.
>>142985622
You disproved yourself when you said that Geass was highly praised at the time. It was a phenomenon because it was a perfect storm of entertaining characters, mecha action, asspull superpowers, outlandish plot points, overly dramatic confrontations or outburts, and over the top developments. The very picture you posted with was something that instantly spawned jokes and memes rather than cries of masterpiece. Season 2 was even more of a spectacle, until the last episodes somehow pulled together a surprisingly meaningful ending. Hell, it's almost as if entertaining us instead of being a tryhard, brooding affront made it an endearing show.
>>142985662
Those are great too, I had to drop Bakuon just because bikes bore me to tears though. Just not my kinda thing.
>tfw wasn't here for Geass threads
I feel like I've missed so much of /a/'s history.
>>142985787
R2 was the weaker half, yeah, but people still liked it well enough when the show delivered. Still, all the clones of Code Geass have been progressively worse thanks to Aniplex and company. They're crazier and yet more hollow experiences. Like Kabaneri.
>>142982871
>I predicted you would revolt, so I switched the keys rather than just preventing a revolt
For what reason?
![[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 07 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.02_[2016.05.27_09.29.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XKgIr6U.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 07 [720p].mkv snapshot 17.02 [2016.05.27 09.29.29]")
>>142968566
I really enjoyed probably the first half of this show. But everything since The Big Bad showed up has just been so terribly cliche.
Don't get me wrong, this was always the sort of show that rode the line of cliche, but it was creative enough in its utilization of tropes to not feel cliche. But the final scene of this ep was really the nail in the coffin. The second that they had the "two bros laughing together about old times" scene, you knew he was gonna die. And the second dude lifted his gun you knew dude was gonna take the bullet, despite how retarded that is because ikoma is a fucking super hero and he's just standing there like a dunce of course. I just could not be invested in what was happening at all because it was so transparent. Reinforcing the broship between the two then having him sacrifice himself in the same episode is just the worst. Really, really bad.
The main plot is just pretty shit. I love everything outside of it. The setting, the character development, the art, the design... My other big complaint is still Ikoma's VA, though. He's just too yell-y, just that one note, there's no nuance in his performance.
Anyway, this show could have been like 8/10 but since the halfway point it's meandered down to something like 6/10.
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>>142985805
So the show with all the regular daily life scenes and peaceful moments between occasional battles is exactly the same as a survival story against zombies leading to an insane villain who wants the world to burn, and a popular main character who does not share the same methods is exactly as bad as this madman who is hated around the web.
Man, you're really a piece of work.
>>142985883
fuck
>Gets kicked off the train missing an arm
>creates arm mounted pilebunker
>starts killing Kabaneri and telling people "hail to the king"
>>142983317
>At least Inori stayed best or at least, top girl all the way to the end instead of whatever the fuck they're doing with Mumei right now.
And this is not true. She's just in the opposite spectrum of shit, being loyal to a faggot character to the point of stupidity.
>>142977982
What is your point? The first post asks where the anime went wrong, not how long ago the script was finalized.
>>142985527
>Before Biba's introduction the threads were gigantic circlejerks and most complaints (including your odd Frodo here and there) would be shut down very quickly.
People sure do like change history
>>142983631
ONE OF THESE MCS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER, ONE IS A LITTLE BITCH~
>>142985998
>She's just in the opposite spectrum of shit, being loyal to a faggot character to the point of stupidity.
But they didn't ruin what made her appealing. Her position in the show sucked, but you're not going to see anybody complaining that the reason the people who liked her at the start don't like her anymore because of whatever plot reasons
>>142985824
That's the difference. Show got lots of love and lots of hate at the same time. The ending was only meaningful because, underneath all the memes and fun times, people did have a reason to care about Code Geass and were invested in Lelouch's fate. How many people would even care if Ikoma comes out of this show alive or not? Not too many, even if he has a sacrifice end where he saves everyone else or saves Mumei.
>>142985824
And you continue to prove my point by spouting a whole bunch of bullshit on top of it.
>>142985883
>he'll never get three wives
end this show already
It can't be that Kabaneri's bad, it's that other shows have to be worse than it
We've completely gone past the point where people would even defend the show itself anymore
>>142985964
>the same obsessive Geassfag who defends every aspect of it.
>>142986016
Then it's a moot point.
>>142986033
People still enjoyed the show regardless of the Frodos.
If the vibe had been this negative, you wouldn't have the critics saying I TOLD YOU SO this past week.
>>142985918
>My other big complaint is still Ikoma's VA, though. He's just too yell-y, just that one note, there's no nuance in his performance.
How much can he be blamed for that though? If he is getting lines that are just [Ikoma yells in anguish], what is he supposed to do? He is probably being directed to produce this exact result, and the problem is the composition of the series rather than his performance. In that way, it might even be enough to say it is a good performance.
>>142986068
What you mean to say is that you can't formulate a counter-argument.
Biba is pretty alpha. Comes swooping in, fucking shit up
>>142985527
The only "circlejerks" were the pedobait and muscle fetish threads outside that the show was pretty much shittied on at every turn for its inconsistencies.
>would be shut down very quickly.
This never happened. If anything the fanbase would continue fapping to Mumei and just ignore it.
>>142985500
Code Geass had more stupid ass moments as well as more reasonable ones. It was a balancing act that you can't easily pull off.
>>142985787
we had vavlrave and more recently mayoiga, although the latter didn't go as far as we hoped it would
>>142986198
MAL score was much higher and only dropped when Biba played his cards.
>>142986107
I'm sorry then. Lelouch is as bad as Biba. Clearly they're both hated characters who ruined their respective shows. You're a genius.
>>142986167
No I just mean exactly what I say. You're a jackass spouting shit and you will continue to be one until you admit it.
>>142986194
Biba is so alpha that anons hate him because they wish he wasn't there so they could latch onto Mumei. That's the secret of the hate.
Ikoma x Ayame OTP
>>142986194
Who can hope to stand against him?
>>142986152
>If the vibe had been this negative, you wouldn't have the critics saying I TOLD YOU SO this past week.
They've been saying that since the 5th episode. People didn't turn around until recently hence the recent spur of "ITS BIBA'S FAULT THIS SHOW IS BAD NOW"
>>142986167
I'd say the yelling actually works most of the time. Ikoma's personality is quite impulsive and shit's been going down lately. Unless you rewrote those situations, having him scream isn't all that unwarranted. I do think it's a good performance because it sells scenes even when the script isn't good enough.
>>142986325
delete this
>>142986366
Precisely, which is where Mr. "Sephiroth meets a Tales antagonist character" came in.
>>142986325
They haven't had a lot of chemistry.
I can see a friendship scene between them. No more.
>>142986238
>MAL score was much higher and only dropped when Biba played his cards.
Actually the score on MAL kept dropping every week. It used to be in the top 3 of the season but kept dropping until Biba showed up where it had a sharper dropironically enough Re: Zero kept increasing despite starting the season with a 7.65 and now its higher than Jojo. People pretend that the detractors were quiet for this show but they were always there from the get go.
>>142986104
Big Order makes Kabaneri look swell.
>>142986395
He came in at episode 7
>>142986455
Re;Zero is otaku wish fulfillment to the max, so that's not a surprise. Its SAO premium.
Anons, the ending will be:
a) Ikoma lives, Mumei dies
b) Ikoma dies, Mumei lives
c) Ikoma lives, Mumei lives
d) Ikoma dies, Mumei dies.
>>142985258
Trying way to hard to fit in and you just come off as a huge retard who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>142986167
You're right that the problem can be either the actor or the director, but it definitely is not the composition. All dramatic screenplays have lines like "ikoma yells in anguish" but translating that on screen is the job of the actor and the director. It could very well be that the director is directing this guy to give a lame one-note performance, but regardless it's a bad performance. Maybe it's not exclusively the actor's fault, but what ends up on screen is a bad performance.
I-I just want her to be happyI also give her the biggest fucking backhand I've ever given but that's neither here nor there
>tfw cant find one piece of habaneri art of ikoma that looks like old nip style art
>>142986593
>Mumei dies
She won't. Ikoma promised she'll make her human again so what's going to happen is that he'll sacrifice himself to save her and she'll live with teh guilt for the rest of her life. This is par the course with all of Okouchi shows.
>>142986593
it's either a or d
the whole "I'm gonna eat rice for the rest of my life" that Mumei has been spouting sounds like a deathflag
>>142986744
I don't think it's wise to assume that. Okouchi has done that exactly once, with VVV.
>>142986775
>Okouchi has done that exactly once, with VVV.
He did it with Code Geass
>Lelouch sacrifices his life; Nunally lives with the guilt
Guilty Crown
>Inori sacrifices her life; Shu lives with the guilt
And VVV
>Haruto sacrifices his life; Shoko likes with the guilt
His writing is just that predictable.
>>142986292
Doubling down on being an idiot instead of trying to make a coherent point, impressive.
>>142986368
Oh definitely, I think that shows part of the problem though. Almost all of his scenes call for him to be yelling like that. Part of what made his scene with his bro stand out was hearing his normal voice. It was like, oh shit, I forgot what he sounded like when he isn't yelling or muttering about Mumei.
Ikoma spent all of last episode running around that station muttering about finding Mumei, then yelling when he found her before running to chase her some more. Then he yelled about the defensive line, yelled about Biba, and got his shit slapped three times. In this episode he sat in a cage (at least that forced him to chat with a few people) and then ran straight into two situations where his bro had so save him before still getting wrecked and dumped. He's such a fucking lame MC now compared to the determined, intelligent, brash inventor that showed up in the first episode.
>>142986593
Mumei gets turned into a hybrid colony and starts blowing up the capital. Ikoma shows up after transplanting an arm from the dying Kurusu who he then devours to recover before taking the white blood. Ikoma injects the white blood and then climbs up to Mumei to fuse himself with her and give her the white blood. They fail to stop Biba from stabbing his father, who does in fact turn out to be a greedy bastard, but they kill him and suppress his soldiers. Baton guy gets beaten by team normie consisting of muscle-chan, her husbando, and that one peasant girl. Ayame becomes the new shogun while the Ikumai colony sets off into the wilderness to hunt down every last Kabane.
>>142986889
>U STOOPID
Only making it worse for yourself Jackass
>>142986853
>He did it with Code Geass
Ambiguity says otherwise. Nunnally got over it and even C.C. has no guilt either.
>Guilty Crown
Only half his doing, but it's really the opposite scenario.
>VVV
Well yeah. That's obvious.
Tell you what: let's wait two weeks and see.
Other than predictability I don't think the show is that bad.
Also I don't come visit threads for every episode, but I could have sworn the last two weeks people liked the show a lot more, it feels like a total 180 today.Still better than AoT
All this week's episode did was make me angry because it's fucking dumb how weak Ikoma and Mumei are all of the sudden and that they're going to make me wait another fucking week or two for such a fucking predictable payoff.
>>142987047
Last week everyone hated, well every episode since Biba was introduced really.
>>142986593
Mumei dies:
https://youtu.be/0_vHiABxIuM?t=52KISAMAAAAAA
>>142987077
I mean they explained Mumei being weak cause they lowered how much blood they were feeding her, so I imagine they were doing the same thing with Ikoma.
Still kinda sucks, I hate when protags are weakened to promote the plot, instead of just having the villain be a bigger challenge.
>>142987087
I've been missing it somehow. Maybe cause I missed release threads.
I thought last week's episode was good. Now though I feel like we know exactly how the next two episodes will play out, not fun.
>>142987047
I want to fuck those eyes.
>>142986619
Anon i saw the first 5 episodes and it was utter shit like Sao. Just Stop
>>142978560
Daddy issues + Narcissistic Wunderkinditis
This show is fucking trash
>>142987309
Give me more looks, Mumei-chan.I can be your oniisama for tonight.
>>142985258
Okay Digi here's your (You)
>>142987155
>I've been missing it somehow. Maybe cause I missed release threads.
The threads during the week were hating it too
There is no majority liking this show like in the first episodes ever since Biba Boogaloo
>>142985258
>>142985605
Kiz/Mayoegg/Luluco are my top three series for the series though. When did my opinion start to clash so hard with /a/'s?
>>142987504
>When did my opinion start to clash so hard with /a/'s?
But everyone on /a/ hates Kiznaiver
>>142987504
Luluco is just random shit. Still more enjoyable than 70% of the new shows this season
>>142987615
I don't mean that specifically, I mean as a whole from season to season. There was a point where my favorite shows were the favorite shows of the m/a/jority, but now my favorites seem to be the most...controversial. Also I think Kiznaiver's hate is completely bias and unwarrented, especially since it got shit on so much before even starting due to the people working on it.
At least there's some valid reasons to dislike Iron Fortress, maybe on how predicable it can be.
>>142987679
Kiznaiver is just a drama kind of like Steven Universe. Autistic characters and a boring story
>>142987770
Aside from Nico (who turns out to be a lot better than you'd think) and the MC (which is a plot point) there's no real autism among the characters, they're fairly grounded.
>>142987816
The MC lost his autism in the last episode i think. But everyone else feel very unrealistic. I don't like anyone and thats a first for me. Oh well maybe only the virgin
>>142987504
>liking Mayoiga
Mind explaining why? I literally cannot even fathom what someone sees in that horrible mess.
>>142987504
What would happen if you were fucking and you pulled away her ribbon?
>>142987932
He might have, he definitely displayed emotion, but we don't know if it's a permanent reversal to the condition he got.
>>142987983
Interesting premises, aside from that one point where everyone was dog piling on Masaki (That was genuinely fucking silly and over dramatic, the drama was pretty well done and characters are likable with pretty different/interesting backstories as to why they're scarred. Also I thought the twists were well done and didn't feel completely out of left field.
Also a lot of people kind of fail to realize, Mayoiga is supposed to be a comedy. It's an intentional "unintentional comedy"
>>142988057
Her cunt would squash your dick into a fine paste.
Is the AIMER single album (the three new songs) the only good thing to come out of KnK? The ED is really great.
>>142988126
>Her cunt would squash your dick into a fine paste.
L-Lets hope it doesn't get pulled then. Even by accident. In the heat of the moment.
>>142987504
Luluco is AOTS if shorts are allowed to count.
