Why did Ymir sacrifice herself and for whom? Why did that one Titan bow to Ilse, thinking she was Ymir and then begin to tear its face off?Will cutest pair ever reunite?
I want Bert to be redeemed.
>>142803566
first for circlejerk
I want Bert to die.
>>142803585
>I want something physically and morally impossible
Soon.
>>142803596
>can't even get it right
>>142805554
Who's that Petra? Let her be happy with Oluo in heaven.
>>142803737
I feel Reiner is going to get eaten instead of Bert.
>>142805989
Both of them might die.
Where the hell is the chapter.
>>142806532
I think it's on crunchyroll now
>>142806061
I know but I feel Reiner is going to get eaten and Bert... I do not know.
>>142806576
Ah alright, I'll just read it there then.
>>142803585
A Bert for you.I want both of them to escape but I guess Reiner getting eaten first is likely.
Do you think Reiner will sacrifice himself for Bertolt or what?
>>142807273
I don't think they'll be in a position which they can sacrifice themselves for each other.
>>142806800
I would protect that Bertuga with my life.
I want Reiner to find happiness. ;_;
>>142808044
Happiness in DEATH
>>142807406
The serum. Someone is going to eat one of them.
>>142808044
Here's another Reiner.
>>142803566
>Will cutest pair ever reunite?
Hopefully. I miss them.
>>142808123
Not that anon, but he meant BR are not in a position right now to make any requests.
>>142808249
Yeah thank you.
>>142808103
That's too good for them.
So what will they do with Reiner and Bert? They can't just tie them together, they could transform back at anytime.
Will they kill them?
>>142808498
One of them will get eaten, the other one will get questioned and killed later on.
i have not read this in ages, can someone spoonfeed me as to where best lesbian is? last i read, she was captured by bert
>>142808569
kys landwhal
New volume cover when?
>>142808777
Here you go, sempai.
Blessed be
>>142808777
I do have the first page.
>>142809145
>>142809223
KEK. Perfect.
>>142803585
I'm glad there's now art out showing Bert hurt. Hopefully we get just as much art of his corpse after he dies.
Lel, apparently there's a new videogame that uses grappling hooks to jump around the map. Guess what it's called...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ISYN1AshZY
>>142808777
4 months passed already? Damn.
I always forget it, do we got the cover next chapter or during the last chapter release?
>>142803585
Bert a pile of shit
>>142810655
Ragetard has to deliver.
>>142810773
I agree.
Eotena Onslaught S2 when
>>142803566
>Why did Ymir sacrifice herself and for whom?
Muh guilt
>Why did that one Titan bow to Ilse, thinking she was Ymir and then begin to tear its face off?
Queen beyond the walls, etc
>Will cutest pair ever reunite?
Warrior village soon, so yes
>>142810939
Next year.
>>142810983
>Muh guilt
I think anon meant why she turned herself into a mindless titan.
>>142811018
>she turned herself
I don't think she did that willingly. My theory is that she was an offering to the gods or something
Judging by how Bert regards humans as devil spawns it wouldn't surprise me if the warriors view themselves as deities.
>general now with delusional shippingfaggotry cancer on the OP
Why is this allowed?
>>142811149
>now
>>142811123
I still think she killed herself, because people hated her existence since the day she was born and back then she also wished she had never been born. People hating her had probably something to do with the fate she was born into she talked about in the snowy mountain flashback. She also said she was helpless all on her own, wich is probably why she thought that was her only way out, but after she got a second chance she wanted to live and prove to them her fate wasn't decided the day she was born.
Obviously Hange is a guy right, so why did they make him into a girl for the anime?
>>142811244
The joke pages with her wearing a skirt imply the opposite.
>>142811238
>killing yourself because people hated you in a manga like this one
She said I was killed, not I killed myself.
>>142811266
No, it was more vague and she just said she died.
>>142811283
My bad, but still saying that she killed herself for no reason and became a titan when dead doesn't match up.
>>142811238
I don't think she suicided because she couldn't take it anymore though. Sure, she may have jumped to her death, but not without pressure from those expecting her to die for the sake of the happiness of a great many people.
That's why I'm all for the "sacrifice to the gods" theory. The gods (the warriors) were angry and would have unleashed their wrath upon her people if not for her sacrifice. Otherwise, why would her death have made so many people happy?
I don't know the exact reason people would have hated her, but it could have involved a conflict between her family and another important family. I don't think she was a bastard like Historia.
>>142811328
It wasn't for no reason. It was actually a similar reason why Historia tried to kill herself as well. Actually I think she even said "so I died", which makes it even more sound like it was her own decision.
>>142811371
Yes, it sounds like it was her decision, but I don't think she dies because of "peer pressure".I still think the Ackerman theory is possible.
>>142811351
Sounds too far fetched for my opinion. To me everything points at her killing herself, because people hated her existence and she was born into some kind of fate, which she couldn't change, hence why she said she was helpless on her own. So she thought her only way out was death.
>>142811404
That would imply that Ymir's people = Ackerman family and that shit just doesn't add up. And why would anyone bow to someone who's "just" the head of a family.
>>142811441
>That would imply that Ymir's people = Ackerman family and that shit just doesn't add up
Why not though?
>>142811404
It's possible, especially since she said her and Historia are alike and that she also once wished she had never been born.
>>142811426
That doesn't answer the question as to why she said she died for the happiness of a great many people.
>>142811426
She didn't die though. More like she sacrificed herself.
>>142811472
They hated her existence. She died. They were happy.
>>142811494
Everything she said points at her killing herself.
>>142811496
Why would her surname be hidden though?
>>142811518
If she killed herself she wouldn't be able to turn into a titan.
>>142811540
Turning into a mindless titan is the same as dying.
>>142811459
When talking of X's "people" the thought that "people" only refers to one important family doesn't pop up. "people" makes me think of a nation, a tribe, a kingdom, anything. Not just a family.
>>142811123
He views humans inside the Walls as devil spawns because of fucked-up history with the FK, not humans as a species.
>>142811578
>a tribe
Ackermans were a tribe, Asians too.
>>142811496
But we have evidence that not everyone hated her. In fact, from the encounter with the titan and Ilse, we can draw the conclusion that she was respected and the people really loved her.
>>142811404
Doesn't add up time-wise. Ymir turned titan too recently to the the one Grandpackerman was talking aboutl
>>142811556
This implies that she had titan serum possessions if she did it by herself, which is unlikely.
>>142811523
Maybe she doesn't have one. Isayama seems to put more emphasis on her first name. She probably enlisted with a fake surname, which isn't worth mentioning.
>>142811617
30 years are more than enough for that to have happened.
>>142811631
>Maybe she doesn't have one
Yeah, same with Levi.
>>142811586
I just thought it was interesting that religious references would be brought up in his word use to describe his views on the walled humans.
As well as the recent interview that the Colossal Titan is the God. And Bert's last thoughts towards Armin that he would be "good" to him and and put him out of his misery already.
All the signs point towards the warriors- and Bert in particular- having a God complex. It's possible that the shifters think of themselves as Gods, and with good reason too.
>>142811591
Asians were. But were the Ackermans regarded as being a separate race? All I know is that they've been an important family ever since the creation of the walls and that they're immune to the mind wipe from the Reiss family.
>>142811649
Levi has a last name. Ymir probably not, since Isayama already made a her first name a mystery.
>>142811459
Not that anon but Ackergrandpa's story deemed to suggest that the Ackerman family was a bloodline of Warriors specifically sworn to protect the Royal family inside the walls.
I'm not sure a family of servile hounds really fit the whole "queen beyond the walls" "origin of everything" vibes Ymir's own name and background give off.
>>142811636
Grandpackerman said it was his father's generation and he was already a geezer when he talked with Kenny more than 30 years ago.
>>142811624
It's not, since she clearly is from outside the walls.
>>142811624
More liek it implies that she was injected with the serum and her "dying" meant turning into a titan and wandering around mindlessly until she was "reborn" after having eaten Marcel.
>>142811687
>deemed to suggest that the Ackerman family was a bloodline of Warriors
No, they were feared because of their power, they aren't warriors.
>>142811631
Ymir's revenge is to keep living as "Ymir." Faking even part of her name is at odds with that.
>>142811595
There is actually still a possibility he hated her.
>>142811691
>it was his father's generation
That knew about the history of the walls, not the one who offered himself.
>>142811687
Or maybe the reason the Ackermans are so special is because they do have a special power runing through their veins that is connected to the origins of the titans. It's even possible that they were the first humans that were experimented on, and while they did get the strength and some of the regenration powers that the titans have, they don't actually turn into giants.
Maybe it is true that Ymir is from this family, the first test subjects.
>>142811717
Hence why Isayama doesn't mention the made up last name she used to enlist. Or maybe they didn't really care, because they took every new recruit they can get.
>>142811691
>Grandpackerman said it was his father's generation
He said it was the ancestors of his father, not actually his father. It's still possible that Ymir is the sacrifice.
>>142811713
I meant to write "knights", my bad.
>>142811747
They didn't seem to care about Levi not having a last name.
How big would the shitstorm be if Ymir turns out to be Levi and Mikasa's great grandmother?
>>142811659
Colossal titan is God in the figurative sense because of the hold they have over the lives of people in MRS. Titans more like a force of nature, or a god, than enemies because of this. They shape the people's world though fear. The warriors themselves do not think they're gods, they think they're warriors and killing the enemy is part of the job. You're being far too literal, it's a bunch of basic shit.
>>142811766
A lot of things Ymir said so far don't add up with the Ackermann story. You should pay more attention to what she said to Historia during the snowy mountain flashback.
>>142811800
Grandaunt is more likely, but she obviously isn't an Ackermann.
>>142811742
Yeah, I do have my doubts but I'm not writing off that possibility completely.
And now that I think about it, it would make sense for Ymir to hide her last name when she enrolled if at the time she died being an Ackerman was still extremely dangerous (it doesn't really explain why she would never try and establish contact with Mikasa, though)
>>142811833
>it would make sense for Ymir to hide her last name when she enrolled
Read the snowy mountain flashback again.
>>142811800
We would need to update this.
>>142811808
Yeah, that's why I'm still holding on to the theory that there might've been different sacrifices from different clans
>>142811740
He didn't indicate a change in subject though. It was all part of the same effort to protect the clan.
>>142811766
No he said it was his father's generation.
>>142811863
/r/ing more Ackermemes.
>>142811808
She could have been hated because her existence put many in danger. So she sacrificed herself for them, it adds up actually.
>>142811872
Or Ymir just killed herself, since pretty much everything she said so far implies this. Historia was about to do the same thing and Ymir wanted to save her from the same mistake she made.
>>142811896
>>142811932
>>142811951
>>142811972
Fuck, laughed too hard at this.
>>142811972
>>142812002
>>142811972
I fucking died.
>>142811804
You already explained the reason why the warriors would think of themselves as Gods.
>>142812023
Surprisingly I have a lot of manlet memes.
>>142812047
>>142811908
I think you're taking this too far though. Yes, Ymir killed herself, but not out of an act of "release" from the burdens of her life. But more because killing herself is what was being expected from her from the moment she was born- and this being the fate she speaks of.
When will Mangastream release the latest chapter?
>>142812075
Q&A?
>>142812096
I just realized that I love the Ackermans.
>>142812119
Only one retarded question. Petra and Oluo come from the same district and manlet's nickname is pig lover.
>>142812080
I don't think it's taking it too far, because she pretty much said she wished she never had been born and when she said 'so I died' it also makes it sound like it was her own decision.
>>142803585
Bert is worst shingeki.
>>142812189
Really? I thought it was fake. Thanks anon.
>>142811908
We know she was hated died for the sake of many, but I don't think there's much of anything in the manga that favors the suicide theory over the sacrifice one.
>>142812200
Bert is best shingeki.
>>142812189
They probably get tons of fujo questions and these are the only ones left.
>>142812229
He's not even in the top 20 of best.
>>142812242
>not even top 20
That's because he's God tier and need not be place in mere foolish rankings.
>>142812242
Bert is the best shingeki. Top 20 starts after him.
>>142812190
She could have wished she had never been born because she hated the fate she was born into you dumbass. Nothing of this implies that she killed herself "because" she was hated. She was hated "because" of the role she was born into.
>>142812258
>>142812259
Bert is shit tier. Even Rico is better at this point.
>>142812229
How can anyone unironically think this.
>>142812303
Only retards on /snk/.
>>142812323
Because you have shit taste and like edgelords.
>>142812222
There is her wishing she had never been born, her saying Historia and her were alike and her wanting to prove to them her fate wasn't decided the day she was born, which would be weird if that was to be sacrificed, since that pretty much already happened.
>>142812273
She was hated for that fate as well, so it pretty much goes hand in hand anyway.
>>142812047
Where's the one with the Kenny edit too?
>>142812045
But they don't think of themselves as Gods. That's all you wanking. Putting an enemy out of his misery is something every other guy does if he's not enjoying torture.
>>142811833
Ymir resolved to continue living under her name even if it's cursed remember.
>>142812420
This.
>>142812075
>tfw Jean will never be Mikasa's prince
What if Ymir is a fake name and her real name is Zeke Ackerman Jaegar?
>>142808158
Thank you Reinerbro. I hope he and Bertolt stay alive next chapter. ;_;
>>142812488
If this is true, you'll come so hard you'll die. Nothing else will happen.
>>142812488
She pretty much said Ymir is her real name.
>>142812131
I like their husbando autism but it makes them do the most retarded shit in battle.
>>142812494
I hope too anon.
>>142812494
Reiner is far past his used by date
>>142812531
Can't make them too OP. They need a weakness.
>>142812536
I hope Hange uses the same trick she used on the two MPs to get them to talk
>>142812230
>tfw question anon is gone
>tfw we only got one answer from Isayama
There were a few good ones they never got to submit, and some more I wanted to ask. ;_;
>>142812447
Welp, no last name, then.
>>142812542
I laugh at your assumption Reiner is going to die anytime soon.
>>142812488
Ymir is too intelligent to be an Ackershit.
>>142812189
No, we got Reiner's nickname as well, so not a total loss.
>>142812549
At least it's a funny weakness. Could be worse.
>>142812494
If anyone's getting eaten it's definitely the Plot Armoured Titan.
>>142812559
I wonder what anons think. http://www.strawpoll.me/10473129
>>142812625
Don't fucking remind me.
>>142812625
He needs to shift to be able to do this trick.
>>142812694
He just needs to fart his consciousness out and regrow from that.
>>142812536
If BR die I want their death to be poetic at least. ;_;
>>142812723
Bert can transfer his consciousness into his sweat.
ITT: Spoilers. EVERYWHERE.
I hope a mod reads through this thread and boots everyone spoiling the story.
>>142812694
You have to wonder why Isayama made this convoluted asspull to keep Reiner alive if he was going to be eaten next chapter.He's staying alive for now.
BR are my least favorites and I can't wait for their deaths, even if it takes until the last chapter
>>142812784
The chapter's been out for 4 days, get over it.
>>142812779
Bert confirmed immortal.
>>142812841
>Eren will torture him for all eternity
Feels good man.
>>142812807
Actually I would expect such a thing from Isayama, he wouldn't mind killing him soon but I hope he won't do it.
>>142812860
How can you torture pure sweat? What would happen if Bert transfer his everything to pure sweat and get away just like that?
>>142812840
Want me to spoil Game of Thrones for you?
I mean, it aired yesterday. Not like you haven't had a chance to watch it yet, right?
Shut up and stop posting spoilers
>>142812895
>implying there's no manual on torturing pure swear in the basement
>>142812925
Sweat is an untorturable life form.
>>142812949
Not if Eren's dong can help it. Remember, he's got the power of dead bff on his side.
>>142812840
There shouldn't even have a thread. It has been discussed over exaustion and now there's cancerous OPs like this one for the last two threads.
>>142813025
Well his dead bff's power is a mixture of ocean and burnt which makes impure sweat. Pure sweat vs. impure sweat is end game.
I just realized that Armin knew he was going to die but didn't want to discourage Eren from the plan ;_;
>>142813122
He even said it in the previous chapter.
>>142813122
It was very clear anon...
MP should rape Annie in front of Bort.
>>142813229
They can only rape her by taking the crystal up the ass anon, are you sure you want to see that?
Did the shifters even know Eren could harden before now? There's no way Bert could have predicted Eren could do that.
>>142813229
And how do you suggest they do this, exactly? By furiously humping her crystal?
>>142813122
Even someone as dense as Eren felt something was off, anon.
>>142813267
>Did the shifters even know Eren could harden before now?
They didn't know.
>There's no way Bert could have predicted Eren could do that.
That's point.
>>142813263
>>142813285
>he doesn't want to see a crystal being raped
You gay or what?
>>142803566
>>142811018
>>142811123
>>142812494
>>142812625
>>142813122
If you think about it, shifters being able to store their consciousness in their CNS makes sense: The titan form is basically a gigantic body directed by nerves attached to the human inside, all a shifter does is apply the same logic to their own body.
>>142813356
I'm not into anal prolapsus sorry or furious humping sorry.
>>142813267
They didn't. The only reason Reiner realized Eren could harden is because he was fighting against him and saw him up close. Bert on the other hand, had no idea.
But count on the naysayers to call "bullshit" and "plot induced stupidity" regardless.
>>142812638
It would explain her loyalty to a member of the Reiss family.
>>142812913
This isn't a GOT thread now is it? If I wanted to avoid spoilers, I wouldn't be actively looking for them to complain.
>>142813683
It would explain everything actually.
>>142813683
Her wanting that pussy explains that too.
If Zeke is ancient enough to know baseball, does that mean he was a titan who ate a shifter too?
>>142813702
Nope.
>>142813732
It means BRAZ village might be more modern. Their clothing also look different from the wall people
>>142811875
>his father's generation
This flashback was some 30 years ago and Ackergrandpa was already a smelly old man. His father's generation would be around 80-100 years old at that time.
Ymir titanized 30 years before that flashback.
It's still possible that it's Ymir he was talking about. And while Ymir was still too young to be considered the head of the family, it's also possible that her parents died young and she was left as the last remaining successor.
>>142813810
This theory doesn't add up with pretty much everything else she said. Not to mention she is clearly from outside the walls and her knowledge as well.
Ymir most powerful titan confirmed.
>>142813861
She's the most powerful depending on the environment though. If it's a place with high buildings or giants trees then she's pretty much undefeatable.
>>142813861
I wish Isayama would have made her titan look more like in the north mythology.
>>142813861
>Being willfully retarded
He meant she might defeat them before they had the chance to transform into titans. Her titan is too worthless to beat any shifter in an actual fight.
>>142813858
The fate she was born into might as well have been being the Reiss family's dogs. Might also be the reason why she approached Historia and sticked close to her in the beginning.
>>142813888
After reading about Ymir's part in norse mythology, I think Ymir is the first titan or Ymir's clan made the walls. Maybe she's related to the first king too.
>>142813922
Not really.
Bert could've blown his cover right here.
>>142813964
One day you'll learn to be original.
>>142813930
I don't think so, but her family might have had the ability to create titans.
>>142813973
I think that about the Ackermans and I also don't think that Ymir is Ackerman.
>>142813988
Well I assumed what I say due to the myth.
>>142814008
>I think that about the Ackermans and I also don't think that Ymir is Ackerman
But it all adds up.Don't be upset when it is revealed she's an Ackerman and we get flashbacks on her thoughts on Mikasa.
>>142813858
>don't add up with anything she has said
>I wished to die so everyone would be happy
>I wished I was never born
>I though the word would hate me for my existence
>I died for the greater good
>I'll not deny I was born as Ymir "something".
It really adds up.
>>142814017
Not really.
>>142814017
Meh why would I be upset over it? I just don't feel that's the case.
>>142813930
What fate? Memory fails me.
>>142814032
It really doesn't and she only said her first name, because that's what's important and not her last name.
>>142814068
Just like Historia's first name isn't really symbolic.
She was living under the name Christa, but she threew that away and took back her real name. It's a similar case to Ymir. Ymir Ackerman is as much as confirmed.
>>142814119
Nah, it's still a far fetched theory.
>>142814068
If it wasn't important Isayama would've just let us know already. But then again you seem to don't understand the concept of leaving something unknown just to elevate the hype.
>>142814065
Ymir speaks of a role she had since she was born but she never specifies what it was.
>>142814159
Page?
>>142814158
I do, since he already did that with her first name, which he puts a lot of emphasis on. She most likely doesn't have a last name.
So are the Ackermans like proto-titans?
>>142814151
Ymir being titan queen / princess of the outside world is even worse. At least her being an Ackerman makes more sense.
>>142814242
It makes more sense than the Ackermann thing.
>>142814065
According to the myth:
*ymir is the first living creature on earth
*it is an ice-titan and hermaphrodite
*humans born from his sweat
*some disaster happens (like noah's story) and it dies (killed actually)
*a little part of it's family survives (named Bergelmir)
*it's body parts become different parts of the world
*it's eyebrows becomes walls to protect humans (some titans build it, odin and the two other brothers)
*inside of the walls named midgard
I don't think, it's so related to the snk plot though.
>>142814198
They might have some titanic abilities on them but they're mostly guard dogs.
>>142814288
Ymir and Bert confirmed for family?
>>142814288
I really know the Ymir myth, I've read it and norse stuff multiple times. I'm reffering to the Ymir of the manga.
>>142814318
In the official translation she is actually saying 'born as Ymir'
>>142814343
Can you post it?
>>142814288
>>142814323
Extra info, Bertgelmir and his wife are the two survivor titans (from Ymir's blood flood). They are the ancestor of the devil-ice titans.
I'm pretty sure YB's stories are related to each other at some point at the history.
>>142814327
Sorry I don't know about the manga.
>>142813922
She approached Historia for curiosity.
>>142814318
That's almost a word for word quote of what Eren said in the first few chapters, I wouldn't put too much thought into it.
>>142814318
Ymir's being killed in the myth so she's living her life in with that name can be interpret as revenge.
>>142814270
How? It would even explain the blonde titan talking about Ymir's people if she was once the head of them. It doesn't add up how BRA isn't bottered by her in the slightest and only started paying attention to her after she shifted the first time. And she's the sppiting image of Levi and his grandpa. Elaborate how it would make more sense.
Do you think can Zeke be Odin?
>>142814119
Ymir's whole point was that she didn't throw away her own name. Historia was the only one who did that.
>>142814453
Yes. Ymir and Historia are supposed to relate yet be subversions of each other.
>>142814242
It makes a lot of sense. BRA have their own village, Ymir's people did too.
>>142814421
Because BRA were clearly born in a different generation from her.
>she's the sppiting image of Levi and his grandpa. Elaborate how it would make more sense
Eren and Historia also look like twins. Everyone though young Frieda was a cross dressing Eren. Yet they are not related.
>>142814450
>Odin and his brothers betrayed and slayed Ymir
It's possible.
>>142814534
Zeke looks younger than 60 though.
>>142814366
What do you mean? Of course there's significance in Ymir keeping her name because it's a plot point. The rest is just her philosophy and defiance, but the fact is her name is important.
>>142814318
>And I'll prove that my destiny wasn't made up when I was born.
What it seems it's like she received this name because her parents/upbringing wanted hard for her to be exactly like someone in the past. And/Or that she was to be assigned to a Reiss kid even before conception. Then the segregation started and everyone started hating the Ackermans because they were Ackermans.
>>142814558
Might have been his father then.
>>142814571
"My fate wasn't sealed the moment I was born" is something Eren brings up a lot when contemplating how humanity is like cattle.
>>142814017
Isayama would've handled his foreshadowing better than that if she was truly an Ackerman.
>>142814318
Since she sacrificed herself for her own people, she tried hard to be an egoistic person but since this wasn't her qctual nature, she ended up sacrificing herself again.
>>142814630
People hated her, because of the fate she was born into. It didn't happen later on.
>>142814680
Ymir wasn't mentioned until midwy through the manga and she was never ever foreshadowed to be a shifter before that time.
There's a reason Ackergrandpa brought up that story and it's because it's going to become relevant later on, after all, the Ackermans still remain a mystery.
What is the finality of the serum if no one will use it?
Maybe that's why Isayama didn't kill Reiner. He is going to get eaten.
