Why the fuck is Mai with Trunks in Super? Isn't she just some fucking shitty slapstick character that was with Pilaf all the time?
And why are her eyes not blue anymore? AND WHY DOES SHE CARRY A FUCKING GUN WHEN THE ENEMY IS ABOVE SUPER SAIYAN LEVEL?
What is all this shit?
>>142793921
>Why the fuck is Mai with Trunks in Super?
Probably following up the Mai x Trunks stuff from the movies. Yeah, different timelines, but I guess it's meant to show how they're still the same people even if their lives take different courses.
Super had cut the whole Mai x Trunks thing, but they're shown interacting next week, so they might be bringing it back.
>And why are her eyes not blue anymore?
She always had fully black eyes in the manga. The anime color was clearly wrong.
>>142794038
And why did they give Future Trunks in Super blue hair when he always had grey hair?
I mean,e ven his kid version still has grey hair.
Are they smoking bad weed?
>>142794038
And why does Mai make out with baby Trunks in the movies when she is 40?
And why are they going with more Saiyan shit instead of actually writing a creative character, maybe a new race again or something like Cell for this current arc?
>>142794114
>And why did they give Future Trunks in Super blue hair when he always had grey hair?
Toriyama has always insisted on giving Bulma and Trunks the same hair color, while Toei rejected it.
It used to be purple for both, aside from one exception or another, but now, ever since he started working on the anime stuff directly, he goes with blue for both. Toei always changed his designs though, giving Trunks his old purple hair or keeping Bulma with blue or green hair in the old days. This time they didn't, and we haven''t gotten an official reason regarding that.
Maybe to differentiate both Trunks, since his VA was implying that we soon might see a more mature version of present Trunks too? Still, that's just speculation and it could be just character development with no physical aging.
>>142794222
>And why does Mai make out with baby Trunks in the movies when she is 40?
Because for fictional characters physical age is what really matters the most. People often actually complain about young looking characters being involved with older men even if they're actually older than their partners, basically putting in the same loli category that actual little girls would get, doesn't matter the story excuse.
>And why are they going with more Saiyan shit instead of actually writing a creative character, maybe a new race again or something like Cell for this current arc?
We do have that mysterious new Kaioshin for the new arc, and Black might not actually be a Saiyan. We also just finished an arc with some random new alien races.
>>142793921
Why does the top image look so cheap compared to the bottom one?
I don't know what impairs you guys judgement enough to not realize the obvious, but, Black Goku is CLEARLY just Adult Goten.
I guarantee it. It is extremely obvious. Maybe he is possessed I don't know. But that is Goten. Just look at the long sleeve shirt he wears with his much scrawnier arms than Goku.
And he is EXACTLY the age Goten would be. Need I say more? It is obvious and I guarantee it.
We all know Goten has a thing for long sleeve shirts.
>>142794222
Did you not even read or watch Dragonball?
>>142794766
Goku died before Goten was conceived in the future timeline.
Probably gonna retcon it though...
>>142794766
>Goku and Chichi dead
>Goten conceived before Cell games
>>142794491
What an ugly ass image you posted. Here's the original (English) tankÅbon cover.
So can future trunks go super saiyan? I've forgotten
>>142795549
He goes super saiyan literally the first time he appears
>>142795388
ARE YOU PEOPLE IDIOTS?
That's exactly how Goten was born in the main timeline too.
AFTER Goku DIED.
Goku impregnated her, then it took 9 months for Goten to be born.
Goku in the main timeline died during the Cell games.
Goku in Trunks' timeline died about 2 weeks before the Cell games of the heart virus.
It's fucking OBVIOUS Chichi was pregnant already in both timelines.
>>142795549
Yes?
So are there other previews during the week, or just the end of the episode one?
>>142793921
because Trunks cant use his Ki at all, or else he will be detected by Black, so Mai has a gun for any NON Ki user threats or maybe to hunt animals as apparently food is scarce
>>142795729
didnt Goku impregnate chichi during the week Cell gave them to prepare for the games?
>>142795931
Goten would have had to been conceived sometime March Age 767. Cell Games started in May of the same year.
>future Bulma and teen Mai already dead
I was mad. Pretty good so far though, finally Super is getting good besides Whiss/Bills
>black goku is U6 goten theory
Look.
In U6, Cabba mentioned that there was no galactic tyrant who rule the universe. In that outcome, saiyans are good people to serve and protect the citizens and never have sent saiyans out for planet exterminations at all.
Goku/Kakarotto did not sent to Earth(dead confirmed by Vados), therefore Goten/Gohan did not exist because Chichi is dead.
That should put that U6 Goten theory to rest for good.
>>142796374
>dead confirmed by Vados
It was wished back literally a few eps ago.
I agree on the saiyan point, but considering Black doesn't think of himself as a saiyan, I'd wonder just how persistent destiny/personalities are in the mirrored universes. Maybe U6 had a human Goku.
>>142796374
NOT ONLY THAT, but in the u7 on the orginal planet the sayians were from, there was a civil war between the good and bad sayains, the bad sayians won, it also destroyed their planet. u7 in the universe inwhich the good sayains won the war.
Apologize.
>>142796374
There are 10 other universes we haven't seen, and apparently even more ones that were destroyed. And THEN when we get into alternate timelines...
I mean at this point there's a Time Patrol Goten that Trunks is best pals with even though they're from different timelines. How is it hard to imagine there being another one?
>>142796995
None of the other universes are like U7, though
>>142797051
We have no idea what that actually means though.
>>142793921
She and the pilaf gang wished to be young again and got turned into toddlers during the android saga.
She is using Red Ribbon army energy rifles, they built androids that could shoot ki, they built cell, they could build a goddamn ki shotgun.
>>142796374
Why would Future Trunks be in U6 anyway? The Earth was destroyed until recently in U6.
>>142797051
When that was said, they also said that there were only 12 universes, rather than 18. They were obviously not counting the destroyed ones.
>>142797169
>thinking that means theres 6 triplets and not 9 pairs
C'mon, guy
>>142794038
fuck you, she clearly looks way cuter with blue eyes and lipstick.
>>142795931
That was literally a hentai doujinshi, the whole cell saga lasts about a month and chichi was probably already pregnant before it.
The episode was strangely not-completely awful like the majority of the other 46.
>It's a "people who have never read dragon ball yet complain about things in a sequel they don't understand" thread
In DBZ i was so scared, watching Gohan get trashed by the androids and everything just seemed to go sour for the Z warriors. This future was just bad, I don't feel dread from this new guy
>>142797151
The whole point of the super dragon balls was that they granted wishes way beyond the namek one's capabilities. It is very plausible the planet along with all its history and inhabitants got wished back as if it had never been destroyed and everything had continued naturally.
Can't wait for the retarded Black Gotenfags to BTFO
>>142797461
Yeah, I remember that moment when getting the VHS on my 11th birthday.
>Goku dies !!
>oh fuck, already?
>Z warriors is kill in 1 day except Gohan barely escaped from the onslaught
>mfw
Wasn't ready for that.
>Black no yaro
lol racism
>dbz
holy shit people still watch this
wew lad
maybe black is just a shapeshifter that for some reason decided to transform into goku and we haven't seen his real form yet
>>142794581
The magic of traditional cel animation
>>142797945
This surprises you, how?
Does anyone have the one pic that show Goku's growth in the manga?
>>142797461
It dosen't help that they kept killing the mood by switching back to the present and showing comedy scenes.
>>142796122
>Bills
>>142797110
Speaking of Androids, future Mai is an android, the real Mai is already dead. Black uses her to keep tabs on future Trunks who's actually an android, too.
>>142798736
>android
>cat food
>>142793921
Modern anime looks like fucking SHIT
>he doesn't have an anti saiyan gun
>>142798938
No, Toei's modern anime looks like fucking shit. It's not the modern techniques, it's just a tool.
>>142799066
No, modern anime looks like fucking shit.
Toei also animates like shit, but they all look like shit
>>142799051
For the thousand time, Whis explained that Goku was too relaxed sometimes. Which suits him. And when someone's not expecting an attack and blocking it/strengthening his muscles/using ki or whatever, it just go through the body like any normal weapon would.
Look at shaolin monks, they can take a bat to the head but if you do that while they're not looking, you'll just kill the guy.
>>142797110
What is annoying is that in Super they never said anything about the past of Pilaf gang, so people can say that they are only children if they don't remeber the first dragon ball.
>>142799097
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you even watching anime? Just to pick 2 recent examples, are you telling me Kekkai sensen or Hero academia look like shit?
No, it's just Toei being lazy as fuck. Because they can, they have big names that would sell whatever the shape.
>>142799170
Then why did Black dodge?
>>142799170
Ignore the retard
I never realized how cute Mai was until now.
>>142797461
>In DBZ i was so scared
What the hell kind of pussy gets scared from a cartoon lmao
>>142798736
You mean fembot and Mai and Black are in cahoots with Dr. Evil.
>>142799466
People that accepts that art is made to provoke feelings, otherwise why are you even watching stuff?
In after
>art
>>142793921
Why are her eye's so black you can't see her pupils?
>>142793921
>Why the fuck is Mai with Trunks in Super? Isn't she just some fucking shitty slapstick character that was with Pilaf all the time?
Toriyama wanted it. Toei for some reason cut their interactions from the already shitty retellings and now is pushing it even harder. I for one, I welcome the new OTP.
>And why are her eyes not blue anymore?
Toriyama never drew her with blue eyes. That was a Toei thing.
And for the faggots that keep asking why the fuck is she the same age as Trunks:
Have you EVER considered that Mai and the other two still made their fucking wish in that timeline?
People are stupidly assuming that they used the balls like a year or so before the events of BoG. No, it seems more likely made their wish way before that. They didn't even knew that Shen Long could grant more than one wish when they were forced to help Sorbet and the other to Frieza's faggots, and then they went with money and Ice Cream.
And who made those Dragonball wish modifications? Dende. Which means, that the last time Pilaf Gang used the balls were at a time that Kami was still unfused.
The same shit can be applied to the Pilaf Gang of Future Trunks, sometime before Piccolo and Kami's deaths.
Taking in account both timelines, we can assume the Pilaf Gang of the current timeline made their wish during the start of the Android/Cell arc. However, that must mean that Shen Long fucked them hard and made them toddlers, since Kid Trunks was about a year old during that time.
>>142794038
Well it was either that, grey or white.
>>142793921
>Pic
>Anime then, anime now.What happened.jpg
>>142799514
Sure thing you mexican
>>142795229
>>142795388
Yeah but evil goku didn't exist in that timeline either and toryama has stated the timeline was going to get screwy so I wouldn't count it out. Mai being with trunks in this timeline should be an indicator something is off.
>>142799851
It is just the power of love finding a way. Someone needs to repopulate Future Earth.
Mai would be over 40 years old as she stated in BoG. She hasn't even held hands with a boy, let alone become one's romantic partner. She's so pure and innocent as far as love goes, so she's kind of like a loli anyway. A loli with access to weaponry, but a loli.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10462144
gonna keep running this until we find out for sure
feel free to reply with theories or whatever
>>142796374
Trunks' story doesn't happen in U6.
>>142799911
He have clearly two trinkets.
>>142799911
Make sense being controlled by demigra.
I really think there is foreshadowing going on somewhere about it.
>>142800290
I think the kaioshin is the one telling what is happening similar with Buu saga.
>>142794581
>Why does the top image look so cheap compared to the bottom one?
because she's dead
>>142794766
>And he is EXACTLY the age Goten would be.
Ok how old is he?
>>142793921
because of bullshit reasons everybody knows panxtrunks is canon
>>142800526
Fuck off.
>>142800489
About Trunks age?
>>142793921
how bad trunks beat that pussy up?
>>142800601
Not bad enough, as he didn't even impregnate her.
>>142800526
This is gonna be like those NaruSaku shippers, ain't it
>>142800526
Here's your (You).
You could have at least tried to be more clever with your bait.
>>142800576
A year younger than Trunks.
I think the real problem with the "It's Goten" theory, is that there was no implications about his existence anywhere, Gohan never mentions it in the Trunks side story.
>>142800601
Future Trunks is an useless stud who only managed to make Mai sacrifice herself for him. Now he will do the Gohan and ask for Goku's help while trying to recover from the asskicking he got from Black.
>>142800671
Well, the TruPan faggots are the NaruSaku.
>>142800720
>>142800671
What is NaruSaku?
>>142800671
Now that I think about it, Mai just sacrificed her life in pretty much the same useless way Hinata did.And even their hairdo is pretty similar.
>>142800762
The eternally assblasted rivals of the superior NaruHina.
>>142799782
You forgot the full stop at the end of your post Pedro.
>>142800762
The delusional ones.
>>142800871
I'll pretend you put one there for me, thanks!
>>142800995
>Kid Trunks gets cucked by his older self.
>>142800995
Would Trunks really cuck himself? If Future Mai is really gone, would loli Mai go to the future with Future Trunks?
>loli mai goes to the future
>time machine is cramped
>she has to sit on Trunks' lap
>since Mai is as pure as snow and since it is still Mai they both blush
What happens next anons?Will there be doujins?
>>142801045
Nobody in their right mind would choose Kid Trunks over Future Trunks anyway
>>142801045
>Total Recuck.
>>142796374
>Future Goten
I never even put this thought in my head.
Toei had all these potential plots, but never acted on any of them.
>dragonball time lines and canon
well hes called goku black in all promo material that means hes not Goten, just like how Monaka was hailed as being all powerful in all promo material and turned out to be the most powerful person in the universe.
>>142796374
no one ever spoke about u6 goten, they are talking about a goten from trunks timeline.
Chichi would've had him after Goku died as the eandroids are killing off everyone, he would likely end up a orphan living in the woods until someone meets him as a savage boy and goes like "you remind me of Goku, hes dead now, so im gonna call you Goku."
>>142798365
That made me like the episode less than I would've otherwise.
is this otp canon?
Pics for this pairing exploded on twitter
Trunks has had a very hard life. He sure could use some support in this time of need.
Do you think this is the day Vegeta will finally hug his son?
>>142801531
>Look, Trunks-chan. This is my dick.
>>142801531
He might give him a paternal fistbump
Maybe
>>142799604
That makes perfectly good sense, but still if they were toddlers would they have somehow survived on their own or would someone have taken care of them?
The whole Goten is Black thing makes no sense either. Goten is a year younger than Trunks, he was most likely conceived right before the cell games, trunks is like a year old at that time. In the Future timeline Goku dies from the heart disease before the androids even showed up. Trunks goes back in time and warns everyone warns them of what would happen 3 years before the androids show up. This leaves a good 2 to almost 3 years between the time Goku dies and Goten is supposed to be conceived (this 3 year timeframe would also make sense for the pilaf gang to make their wish).
>>142801689
yer wrong. Goku dies at the start of the android invasion in trunks timeline, the duration of that saga was like 2 weeks, with cell tournament having a 1 week for training pause. Chichi was likely already pregnant when the android saga started.
>>142801141
>>142801742
Goku in Trunks timeline dies before the androids appear. Go rewatch it again. It's said that arrival of cell changed the timeline a lot.
>>142801486
How do you look for ToraMai fanart on twitter?
>>142801795
Just use the same tag you use for pixiv art of it.
>>142801486
The real question is when will be get the doujins. I think this pairing might actually be the one that makes the most sense out of all the Dragon Ball pairings so far as well as the cutest.
I used to think Videl and Gohan was the best until Videl got stripped of her personality and Gohan became shit tier as a fighter, leaving the couple to be a very vanilla and boring ass family with not much dynamic.
Trunks and Mai are made for each other, both growing up in harsh environments and constantly suffering together. Mai is also better than most of the female characters since she had longer to gain an actual personality from Dragon Ball.
>>142801486
I know. Just checking it oit.
This is bliss.
>>142801820I am hoping for doujins.Will there be doujins with future trunks and loli mai too? What about shota trunks and loli mai?Is PBX still around?
>>142801820
I personally just enjoy the idea of a bad girl turned good kind of thing. I didn't expect it to be with Trunks until BoG, but it's a welcome surprise.
I remember being so upset at how GT treated Mai and friends. This is redemption in more than one way.
>two women fridged in one episode
>>142801989
What is happening in that picture? Is Trunks asking something lewd?
>>142802109
He wished for girl's panties, just like what Oolong did long ago. He did it to interpret Pilaf's wish to supposedly take over the world, if I'm reading it correctly.
>>142801989
>I remember being so upset at how GT treated Mai and friends
I read somewhere Toriyama felt really bad with the Pilaf gang as old people
>>142802109
>>142802169
Oh yeah, I should mention, Mai is thinking something like "I'll no longer be able to meet with Trunks...!" as a result of Pilaf's wish, so she's probably secretly relieved that Trunks interrupted it like he did.
>>142802266
I want to read this, whereever it may be.
Why is Future Trunks so fucking cool?
Does anyone have that quote were Toriyama said the Gods will be involved with this arc?
So much are they gonna make Future Trunks suffer even more?
>>142802432
He left her mom and waifu get killed by some sayan nigger. How is that cool?
>>142801045
>>142801089
>>142801095
>>142801141
This might not be such a bad strategy though.
>Go back in time
>Seduce the loli version of of your waifu using your adult charms.
>Return to own timeline,
>Loli waifu sticks to the younger version of you like glue, wating for the day you become the adult version she met before.
>Insure your younger self a constant supply of pussy from adolescence and beyond.
>You also have the added benefit of being able to go back in time one day when you get older to ravage your wife's loli pussy with your adult dick to continue the cycle.
>>142800696
Everyone not named Goku or Vegeta become useless in Super is now confirmed. All I can hope is character development for Kid Trunks, then he is going to be long forgotten, just like Gohan.
>>142802432
He's the exact opposite
He's always been
>>142801089
>What happens next anons?
They share a spoon to eat cat food, they blush even more.
I hope some time Goku and co will have to travel to future Trunks to ask for help.
>>142794491
For reference, here's a recent picture Toriyama did with both having blue hair
>the future is so goddamn terrible Cat food is seen as a treat by the poor saps who live in it
>while elsewhere a god, and his stooges are eating some tasty fucking ramen
Why does the universe hate Future Trunks so much
>>142802619
>Ox King's eating etiquette
>Marron being playful
>Yamcha suspicious of Pilaf Gang
>Bulma's mom having heir eyes closed again
>Videl still having her tomboy streak
I love everything about this pic.
Wish Toriyama drew more stuff, Dragon Ball or not.
>>142802679
Because he commited the sin of time travel.
>>142802538
>Trunks did not protect that smile.
Damn you Toriyama.
>>142802619
Videl's arms are so skinny as fuck. Trunks' too.
>>142802764
Stop lying to Trunks already, Supreme Kai of Time
>>142802796
It wasn't meant to be. How sad.
>>142793921
because toriyama remembered mai and she's in it now
one day he'll remember launch and she'll go on adventure with chiaotzu
>>142802819
Stopping to think, Supreme Kai of Time bullying Trunks about his supposed crimes sounds a lot harsher now.
>>142802679
The gods dont generally give a shit about anyone, especially the god of destruction. And whenever the shitty gods (kais) give a shit, they're too weak or incapable of doing jack shit.
>>142802865
One thing Toriyama got right is that gods are assholes
>>142802908
The kais give a shit in general, not to specific races and not fucking way specific individuals. They moved with Buu because he was a menace to all existence
>>142802985
Buu was specified to be the 2nd strongest being after beerus, thats what it took to make them give a shit. I was just driving home the point that people in the DB universe are so fucked.
>>142798365
You can blame Slice of Life shitters for ruining anime
Also the lack of blood really kills any seriousness they were going for
Where do they even go from Beerus now though?
Unless they just start bringing in people from other universes that just shit all over Beerus, and they need goku to once again save the day.
>>142802538
>tfw smile not protected
>>142797461
>>142797895
The fact you were a lot younger probably plays a part in that. You can't have that kind of experience a second time, even more so in a familiar setting like this.
>>142803064
They could always just not up the powerlevels anymore, you know?
>>142803032
Nothing personel kid.
LUZ FUEGO DESTRUCCION>CHALA ESCALA
>>142801531
DBS Vegeta isn't the same as he was in Z, so there are more chances
>Current Trunks now has to deal with having his way cooler version around
Dude is fucked, he simply can't compete, and the worst part is that his waifu to be is near and can the see man he'll never be
>>142803064
>Unless they just start bringing in people from other universes that just shit all over Beerus
They literally just introduced the king of all, who wiped 6 universes from existence for shits and giggles.
>>142793921
I think it is because Toriyama went to give awesome directions for the new arc and the team in charge dropped the ball HARD. When I saw the shotgun, the first thing that came to my mind was "zombies of some type" or maybe "swarms of the bad guy's minions" but nope! no reason. Just shotgun. Also, why is this "black" character avoiding the shotgun shells? I mean, if Trunks, a motherfucking Super Sayan is running away from him, gunshots woud do him absolutely no damage whatsoever. Why is a shotgun all of a sudden a viable weapon against Black? Also, why Trunks didn't transform into SS when fighting him? At first I thought he was hiding his energy but once spotted, why bother? He left Mai die because he wasn't fast enough to rescue the bitch who also considered herself a viable "bait" when any guy stronger than teenager Goku can rip her to pieces with an air blow.
So... yeap, this sucks but if I have to be honest, I didn't expect much from DBS..
>>142803145
>>142803180
>it's a neo-/a/ acts like sandy vaginas and gets triggered episode
>>142803169
To be fair they did say that the nigga doesn't fight, shit just gets eradicated if he doesn't like the cut of your jib
>>142803190
Go back to reading MuvLuv and playing Mortal Kombat
>>142803064
There could always have some bullshit excuse so the gods don't interefere. Like Beerus did during the Golden Freeza incident, for example.
Now with the King of All in the picture, it's even easier to enforce some non interference rule on him.
After all, I doubt Gods of Destruction are allowed to go around protecting stuff.
>>142803032
Careful anon, wouldn't want to cut yourself on that edge.
>>142803145
>>142803180
>>142803217
>>142803234
If you watched any of the previous Dragon Ball series you'd know there was blood. How old are you? Found out about /a/ from JoJo bandwagoning? Or are you here for FOTM SoL discussion?
Damn you Toei, it was all a marketing scheme
>>142803205
Of course he doesnt fight. Its like calling an elephant stepping on an ant a fight, not applicable. That and there's plenty of warriors from other universes to be revealed.
>>142803247
*teleports behind u*
>>142802864
>because toriyama remembered mai and she's dead now
>one day he'll remember launch and she'll go on adventure with chiaotzu and both die
ffy
>>142802679
>that fucking transition to goku and vegeta eating delicious bowl of ramen with the god of destruction
That was awkward
>>142803247
You sound like a really edgy character biut you are kind of right. I don't give a shit about blood, specially when DBS is more of a soft shonen for kids compared to the all ages demo of DBZ but again... We are not in the 90s anymore.
But yeah, slice of life fucked up anime. I feel like they can't decide if they want to make it serious as in the Android/Cell saga or childish over the top as in DB...
>>142803023
On the old myths, gods don't intervene in favor of human. They rather help the heroes or guide them.
>>142803176
I don't think he needs a reason to avoid bullets. Even i it doesn't injure him it still hurts or is just plain annoying.
You also avoid shit that doesn't actually injure you based on that.
I assume Trunks didn't transform because he's just running and avoiding direct combat. But it's still dumb.
I agree about the rest but it doesn't bother me too much. As you said, it's to be expected.
>>142803318
I bet he'll start crying again once he tastes what he's been missing all this time
>>142803339
Let's just hope that in the next episode he fights Black for a minute in Ssj form and then travel back to the past
>>142803254
Super characters like ramen so much (see >>142803318) because there's a ramen company producing Dragon Ball themed ramen
>>142803145
>>142803180
>>142803217
>>142803234
>>142803308
>hehe if I spout these hot memes then that will surely prove him wrong!
Literally neo-/a/, too underage to have even watched DBZ when it first hit American shores
>Mai tries to stall a saiyan(?) with a shotgun
Girl has balls, though her head is likely softer than putty
>>142803247
Nigger I've been watching dragon ball since I was a kid in the 90s, it was more fun and adventure over all rather than MUH blood and violence. Sure it had it's action bits with blood and brutality, but it wasn't just solely that what made dragon ball what it is. If anything you sound like one of those edgy nothing personel kid edge fags that want Dangon Ball to be nothing but blood and rock the dragon.
>>142803247
How old are you? Because you sound like a teenager blown away by animated blood.
If your enjoyment of anime comes from how much red paint is being used you are just a retard.
I agree Super has a problem with lack of tension, but you don't necessarily need blood to do that. It's more incompetence from the storyboarders and directors than anything.
>>142803396
neo-/a/ is a meme in itself, DBZfag
>>142803254
Does it taste like his tears?
>>142803247
>>142803396
Nigger I've been watching dragon ball since I was a kid in the 90s, it was more the adventures goku and his friends went through and the shit they encountered over all rather than MUH blood and violence. Sure it had it's action bits with blood and brutality, but it wasn't just solely that what made dragon ball what it is. If anything you sound like one of those edgy nothing personel kid edge fags that want Dangon Ball to be nothing but blood and rock the dragon.
>>142803328
>>142803408
>>142803415
>>142803430
>>142803470
Even the original Dragon Ball had blood in it and I bet I'm older than most people ITT, I was watching the original Harmony Gold dub of Dragon Ball, first airing of the show ever on American TV in the mid 90's, so don't even try your shit on me, bandwagoners.
>>142803404
Maybe it wasn't a normal shot gun. It looked like it was shootings beams, but still that doesn't detract from her having guts.
>>142803470
You sound an awful lot like a teenager to be a 30 something dude, imo
>>142803415
Why are you so triggered by blood? Humans bleed when they get hurt, how stupid are you? You can't have people getting hit by ki blasts that can destroy a city block and not have blood just to save the feelings of some easily triggered whiners, it doesn't work like that.
>>142803501
Nigger I've been watching it since the 90s too. I never stated it didn't, in fact I said it did. What I said was that the blood wasn't solely what made it what it was.
>>142803408
>>142803470
>>142803583
>using nigger every time you post
Now this is what edge actually looks like
>>142803318
Fuck I guess I am a monster because this >>142803318 made me laugh.
>>142800049
>40 yrs old
>kissless virgin
>goes for the most bishie looking guy in the series
So she's a fujo?
I haven't been into dragonball anything for over a decade, but I find the directions that this will be taking interesting.
I may actually give it a watch.
>>142803636
Clearly
>>142803501
>Bragging about watching dub
>Edgy poster
>Hurr durr I am older than you
I had no idead it was posible to be old and act like a edgy teen at the same time.
>>142803501
You do know that makes the way you're acting even sadder, right?
>>142803318
It looks delicious at least.
>>142803674
Well, I guess maturity has a wide spectrum of meanings here in 4chan
>>142803573
>Triggered
>>>/v/
>>142803501
>Even the original Dragon Ball had blood in it and I bet I'm older than most people ITT
I'm challenging that.I'm 35
>>142803715
Anon the way you post is anything but mature.
>>142803573
>triggered
Fuck off with your tumblr lingo.
And don't assume just because you feel so upset for the lack of blood everyone who disagrees feels upset by blood. I don't care if there is blood or not. As yourself said, blood is a natural thing. I don't feel overly exited when I see it like your faggots do.
And then there's the fact I have enough common sense to know there won't be more than a few drops of blood in a Sunday morning anime released today.
>>142803609
That faggot is /v/ incarnate.
>>142803645
Watch Battle of Gods and Ressurection of F before going into Super.
Or in place of the arcs that retell them, if you don't feel like watching the same events with some differences and worse animation.
well i like it xd could use some evil goku instead of goten or maybe evil gotenks welll ....
Mai will be brought back to life, right? ;_;
kinda off-topic but,
is this the best version of DBZ to own?
how many times has Funi re-released the series on physical media?
>>142802470
At least he still have his cat.
>implying the cat wasn't Black's spy all along
>>142804039
No, future trunks will die and he will go to the afterlife and see his dead parents,friends and waifu and he gets eternal happiness.
The u6 goten and future trunks timeline Goten theories are so stupid. They make no sense.
The only way it could be Goten is if the universes used to be triplets, and 6 of them were destroyed for whatever reason.
>>142804235
more like blackarot can shape shift
>>142802538
Why must Trunks suffer so? That's the second time his world has been destroyed, and this time there's no-one left. His mother is dead, his waifu is dead, the world is fucked. Even if Goku and Vegeta kill Black, there's still nothing left to rebuild from.
>>142804296
>implying he won't die in the current world keeping him from ever seeing his dead family and friends ever again since he's in the wrong afterlife
>>142802619
jesus christ i thought this was fanart
>>142802619
I really want an episode with 18, Buu and Piccolo forming a rag-tag team to combat some great evil while everyone else is busy doing something else.
Piccolo would just look after Krillin's daughter while the other 2 fight.
>>142803375
>Implying Mai's love nectar doesn't taste twice as good.
>>142804458
I want a translation, but this sums up perfectly what poor Trunks is going to find.
It's going to be horrible. He loses his Mother and Waifu, returns to the past to find Gohan has let himself go, and some crazy shit has happened in the intern.
>>142804388
to be fair, I think he hadn't drawn most of those characters for 15 years.
>>142804458
It's not like Trunks hasn't lost all his gains as well. He didn't even go super sayian to hold off Black Goten.
is the new arc actually going to redeem super? episode 47 was actually kind of nice
>>142804235
When Black pushed the flames away and revealed himself I thought the cat was on his shoulder for a second.
>>142804598
Only if they get really grimdark and show lots of suffering, blood and pain.
>>142804621
Look at how much Trunks has suffered in the very first episode.
>>142804594
>He didn't even go super sayian to hold off Black Goten.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Trunks didn't have the energy the go Super Saiyan since he has been living on dog and cat food.
>>142804057
I've wondered this as well
I've been told that the blu rays fucked up a bunch though
>>142804648
I feel like you're gonna have to repost this page in every thread from now on.
>>142804641
future trunks deserves a win, he should be the one who kills black byusing goku's spirit bomb
>>142804621
What was your first experience with Dragon Ball anon?
>>142804682
And?
>>142804594
>>142804648
I think he just wasn't even trying to fight back, just escape. Going Super Saiyan would be wasting energy for nothing, as it won't make him closer to winning.
He probably fought and lost several times before.
>>142804458
The second and third should at least feel kinda nice, even if it is mildly freaky
>>142804701
And yeah.
Will Vegito/Gogeta make a return?
>>142804593
And his artstyle went through a gradual change over that time.
If you put Toriyama's works in other mangas, Dragon Quest and the occasional DB illustration you'll see a very natural progression from his end of DBZ style to the current one.
Just like if you pick an image from early Doctor Slump and Cell Saga you won't understand what happened there.
>>142804754
it seems like it or the earring will factor in at some point
>go in expecting Trunks and Mais fallout adventures
>she dies
>>142804802
why does future trunks have to endure so much suffering? it's not fair
>>142804802
At least it wasn't like she secretly turned to be an utrom with Gilbert Gottfried's voice.
>>142804802
i HATE IT
>>142804057
>>142804660
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/home-video/na/dbz-tv/
that's a lot of re-released stuff.
the blu-ray remastered season sets looks like the best deal.
When in the future timeline did the pilaf gang wish themselves young?
>>142804840
Being Future Trunks is suffering.
>>142804116
>>142802470
After Trunks leaves his own timeline, Black will find the lone unprotected cat and kill it.
>>142799170
No matter how many ways this is explained it is still contextually stupid in DB universe and continues to show Toriyama's budding dementia and/or Alzheimers
>>142804906
Only after he finds Trunks, so that he can kill the cat in front of him
>>142804850
Supposedly the android saga. I have no proof, myself.
>>142804928
Nah, he'll toss it's corpse at his feet when he returns
>>142804850
Only time in which it makes sense is before the androids show up.
>>142804928
And then he will go back in time and kill Vegeta and Gohan and other Bulma in front of Trunks as well, to complete the emotional devastation.
>>142804850
They probably did it right before the androids show up in both timelines.
>>142804906
It's a black cat and he won't kill it, reasons unknown.
>>142793921
>Souless black eyes
I want the regular eyes back.
>>142804850
The wish they made in the present timeline transfered over to trunk's timeline.
>>142804697
First episode of DBZ.
>>142804975
There's a seven year gap between the androids and super. If they made the wish then, Mai would already be much older than Kid Trunks.
>>142805002
The black eyes are the regular eyes.
>>142805104
It's never stated how young they were turned.
Trunks was already born at the time so yeah. It is possible, even if it is a ridiculous idea.
Funnily enough it happening in Android Saga fixes a supposed plot hole with Pilaf not knowing the Dragon Balls make more than one wish during Golden Freeza saga. The last time the Dragon Balls granted only one wish was in the first half of Android saga.
Hope will prevail!
>>142803674
>>142803694
That was the only way to watch it in 1996, not everyone was born into the internet era where everything can be found on Google like you were. And if you consider mid 20's to be "old" then I don't want to know how young you are.
>>142803760
>>142803853
Look I'm not saying it has to be extreme like Mnemosyne or something, just a realistic bit of blood, and ">muh sunday morning cartoon" means nothing when every other Dragon Ball series had blood in it, you're just defending this shit because you missed the original hype train and want to feel a part of something special, well it's not, it's fan fiction tier trash worse than GT. Anyway I'm leaving this thread now, no use wasting my time replying to underage bandwagoners, don't bother replying.
>>142805002
That's the point. Her bleak soulless eyes reflect the world she lives in. And you'll never get the old eyes back, just like she'll never get her old world back.
>>142804848
What about the Kai seasons? That link doesn't cover them and honestly the dragon boxes sound like the best bet if only for the proper aspect ratio.
>>142805104
>There's a seven year gap between the androids and super. If they made the wish then, Mai would already be much older than Kid Trunks.
That makes no sense. Trunks had already been born when the androids appeared. If the Pilag gang became toddlers then, there wouldn't be a big age gap between them and Trunks. Probably just two or three years at most.
>god king emperor can destroy any universe at will
>future trunks universe is shit
will trunks die with his universe or will he be allowed to live in the main one
>>142805076
It shows
>>142805223
They got wished back to five year olds, so after the gap Mai would be 12 and trunks would be 7.
>>142805224
He'll probably go on to become a time patroler. I don't see anything else they could do with his character at this point.
>>142805271
>fucking older woman pussi
the only way to live
>>142805290
Fucking corpses is wrong
>>142805271
>They got wished back to five year olds
Stop pulling bullshit out of your ass. We don't know how young they were turned into when they made their wish.
>>142805271
Sounds right. So she is like 37 while trunks is 32.
>>142805200
yeah,
it was weird it wasn't mentioned.
I just assume it's overlooked since it's not the original untouched material?
>>142805361
She looks a lot younger, like her mid twenties though.
>that obviously futile trunks vs black fight
honestly the most hyped I've been with dragon ball shit in decades
>>142805393
She obviously is younger. >>142805271 is bullshitting.
>>142805376
Is that top right the orange brick or the blurays? Do the blurays look fine despite the crop? I know one release was really fucked.
>>142805427
Stop being such a fag. There would be a noticeable age difference.
Just how old is Future Trunks even supposed to be at this point anyway?
>>142805493
>There would be a noticeable age difference.
But there isn't. What's your point?
>>142805514
late twenties maybe
>>142805514
28+ or so I'd guess. He was 18-19 during the Cell Saga.
>>142805556
but cell saga to super didn't happen too long, i mean both trunks and goten didnt grow much
>>142805723
Still 10 years between Cell and Buu, so even if there's only a year or so between Buu and Super, it still means Trunks is in his late 20s.
>>142805172
>no mom
>no waifu
Hope can fuck itself.
>>142805774
oh shit, i had a brainfart, you're right cell to buu was like 10 years so trunk is close to 30 at this point
>>142805774
>Still 10 years between Cell and Buu
In the main timeline. That has nothing to do with the time in the Future Trunks time line.
Future Trunks is probably 23 or so.
>>142805821
>bring her corpse along to the past
>contacted a dragon thing
>???
>profit
It ain't hard, really. It's not like she was disintegrated like his mum.
>>142805774
Time in Future Trunks world and time in main DBZ world don't necessarily have to be moving at the same pace with eachother
>>142805838
Was it mentioned how many years Trunnks would go to the past in the new episode?
>>142805824
>oh shit, i had a brainfart, you're right cell to buu was like 10 years so trunk is close to 30 at this point
You're still brainfarting. Those 10 years you're talking about is the main timeline. We don't know how much time passed in Future Trunks timeline since he defeated the Cell from his timeline. Probably just a 3 or 4 years. Maybe less.
>>142805838
so you're saying future trunk's timeline is occuring at half the pace of the main one
>>142805894
17 years
>>142805864
>Bring corpse along
>Ask to revive her
>404 soul not found
>>142805182
Super airing in Sunday mornings does mean something unless you are too retarded to understand how television works, which seems to be the case.
And stop assuming everyone who disagrees with you is a jealous underage kid who didn't get to experience the DBZ phenomenon first hitting.
DB aired in my country in the mid-90s, DBZ in late 90s, I was there to watch it.
I also was there years before to watch Saint Seiya which was far bloodier than DB ever was. Maybe that's why I don't really care about blood in the current series, Dragon Ball wasn't my first time seeing it and it wasn't as impressing.
Actually, answer me, was DBZ the first bloodier fighting anime to get aired in the US with some of it's edge left? That would explain a lot about the kind of comments I see americans make about how important that aspect is to them.
i haven't really been keeping up with super, how does it hold up to GT?
>>142805556
But he kills cell 3 years after the androids.
Question is, how long does he have to wait to travel in time? Is it 3 years? Is it anytime?
We know he returns to earth 3 years after killing frieza. Did he just go back home for a bit before going back in time or did he have to wait 3 years to use the time machine again?
Depending on that answer, he could be 28 or 30 something in this black arc.
>>142805966
Some good, some bad. Vegeta got to win some fights instead of being benched by a carrot. Goku is still a battle idiot.
>>142804348
He will live.
But due to his constant time travelling he will eventually encounter a friendly midget Kaio woman who states that he 'violated' the laws of tie and space due to his repeated time travels and as 'penance' has to be her assistant for an upcoming corp she is creating.
>>142805838
You're right, for all we know this took place 2 years after the Cell Saga.
Also, being that Black has a Patora earring, maybe he is a Kaioshin? Perhaps Goku or Turles being in the afterlife escaped to the world of the Kaioshin and in some long convoluted round-a-bout way became the god of destruction? Or, maybe it's like >>142802819 said.
>>142805918
Ok and how old is kid trunks now? Add 17 to that and that will give us Future Trunk's age won't it? That is if we don't factor in the time he spent in the time chamber during the android/cell arc.
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY KILL OFF MAI!?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>142806053
future trunks was born only to suffer
>>142806020
It can't take 2 years after cell. He travels 17 years back and arrives at current super.
So basically he is 17 + however old kid trunks is.
>>142806053
Toriyama wanted that pairing to happen. Toei can't have any of that bullshit.
he's 24-27
>>142805914
You're missing the point. He has a time machine, remember? So he can go to different points in times.
Let's put that way. Let's say he was born in 2000. In 2017 he's 17 years old. He then travels back to 2000. He stays there for a few years, let's say 3, so now he's 20. Then he goes back to his time in 2017. So now he's 20 in 2017. Then in 2020 he would be 23, and then he decides to go back in time gain, only this time he goes back to 2010 instead of 2000 (he has a time machine, so he can choose the destination). So now he's 23 in 2010.
So my point is, he has a fucking time machine, so the time that passes in the main timeline is irrelevant, as he can choose any point in time as target to travel to.
>>142806053
Because Future trunks isn't allowed to be happy. The Androids killed his father and later his mentor, and Black killed his mother and Waifu.
>Young Trunks have that face that goes "I have an older brother? I'm not the only son!?"What would happened if both Trunks made contact? Would they explode?
>>142806053
Yeah, they should have killed Bulma or Gohan instead. Now Trunks is going to have to find another girl to breed with.
>>142806016
Well at least he will be future BFFs with the Xeno hero right? Right?
>>142806110
shiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeemakes sense
>>142806148
Bulma DID get killed off, genius.
>>142806071
>>142806031
He said 17 years back, but his flashback was of the time they defeated Cell, which suggests 17 years back is when they fought Cell. I think that the time machine will suffer some problem and he will end up travelling to a different point in time, which will end up being the present time of the Super timeline.
>>142806190
That's the joke, Einstein.
>>142806110
>So he can go to different points in times
He doesn't have enough fuel to travel too far or that much, though.
>>142806145
This isn't Jojo, anon.
>>142806222
>jojo invented temporal paradox
Seriously anon? Don't you dojyan me.
>>142806222
>He doesn't have enough fuel to travel too far or that much, though.
Sure, but we don't know how far is too far. He said he wanted to travel back 17 years, and the Cell flashback suggests 17 years in the past is the time they fought Cell. Maybe the fuel he has isn't enough to travel that far back, and he ends up only travelling 7 years into the past, which would be the current point in time in the Super timeline.
>>142806213
No, the flashback was just to show the friends he made in the past as that is the only memory he has of them. 17 had nothing to do with that. He is going 17 years back (current super).
>>142806286I was talking about the exploding part.
>>142806213
Ok if we go by what you're saying, how many years passed between cell and current super? subtract that from 17 and that's how many years in the future trunks is coming from. Even though he spent some time in the past during the cell arc would both Trunks' ages more or less match with that margin factored in? If not, I think you may be wrong anon.
So if it's not Future Goten who is it?
>>142806357
Turles after absorbing multiple planets' lifeforce.
>>142806357
Who knows. What with the new kai shown in the OP it'll probably be some magic/godlike entity since Trunks couldn't sense it's ki.
>>142806357
It can still be goten if the universes used to be triplets before 6 of them were destroyed.
It can't be u6 or future trunks timeline goten as goten doesn't exist there.
>>142806314
>He is going 17 years back (current super).
Maybe, but I'm not convinced yet. He looks too young to be 17 years in the future from the current Super time. Mai looks too young too, and even Bulma looks too young, as she would be like 60 by then if this was truly 17 years after Super instead of 17 years after Cell.
>>142806145
It is theorised that nothing would happen if you met yourself in the past, as what's happening is the present for both you and your younger self. You wouldn't disappear if you killed your past self, you'd just create a new timeline where you wouldn't exist in the future. You wouldn't see that future unless you used your time machine to go back to it.
>>142806315
Jojo hardly invented that either.
>>142806357
>since he called trunks "saiyan", that means he is another race
>probably a race that has been driven to extinction by saiyan
>somehow took control of the dead Goku
Hire me, Toei.
My dad works at Toei and I can tell you that Black Goku is Baby from GT who existed in future Trunks timeline who came to earth to wipe out the Saiyan's and then infected Goku's dead body
>>142806487
So a Tsufur?
>>142806352
>Ok if we go by what you're saying, how many years passed between cell and current super?
10 or 12 years, if I'm not mistaken.
>ubtract that from 17 and that's how many years in the future trunks is coming from.
That would be like 7 years in the future from Super then.
>Even though he spent some time in the past during the cell arc would both Trunks' ages more or less match with that margin factored in?
I think he does. He looks around his early 20s. Mai too. Bulma also looks like 50 (for Dragonball standards), not 60.
>>142803318
It was suppose to be. They kept switching between the past and the future timelines because they wanted to emphises how everythings gone right with Goku and friends, but everything is ultra shitty for Trunks.
I mean, the guy basically saved TWO worlds. You can't get more hero then that, but for some reason Karma says that he can never be happy because he fucked with time.
>Trunks vs Trunks sparring scenes
Are you ready?
>>142799911
Demigra is Chi Chi.
>Future Trunks slowly making kid Trunks life better and better through various sufferings
>>142806439
Everyone looks extra young in Super.
Like half the age they should look. That goes not only for the people who should be looking old, but also for the kids who should be growing up like Goten, Trunks and Marron.
>>142806439
Dude, they flat out say they're going 17 years into the past. It's just that they show the flashbacks so you got confused.
If 17 years in the past was cell saga, why would he travel to current super which is 11-12 years after Cell saga?
He looks younger due to the art style.
So, have we all come to terms with the fact that, at the end of this ark, the future timeline is going to get wished back into everything being sunshine and rainbows?
All it'll take is one trip for Goku to the future, teleport to Namek, whip up a new set of dragonballs and presto, future Earth is restored in all its glory with a fail safe for future catastrophes. All the drama and loss completely removed.
Speaking of lost drama, why'd we even bother with this blue goop plot device? The very premise of this series is that there's a magical wish dragon, just wish for the damn thing to have energy (Or, better yet, wish for the ability to jump back and forth yourself at will!)
>>142806586
That'd be cool. Will he teach his younger self how to get with mai or give him advice as if he were an older bro or will he cuck himself?
I can't wait for more Mai, even if loli form. Mai has been my DB waifu since the first series.
>>142806649
>Dude, they flat out say they're going 17 years into the past.
Yeah, so? They never said if 17 years into the past is the current point in time in Super. I know he'll get here somehow, but we still don't know if that was the point he had in mind or if it's due to some problem with the time machine (like lack of fuel, for example)
Don't bother me with this stupid shit I'm still mad the drawing is horrible.
>>142806656
Unless they whip out new dragon balls with newer rules or use the super dragon balls the people who have been dead for a while won't come back.
>>142806677
Loli Mai is too incompetent, though. It's sad that they have to kill the future her.
>>142806677
Bullshit. No way you kept her for over 20 years, especially when she wasn't present in the series for all of DBZ.
>>142806736
People don't stay loli or shota forever, you know. Quit looking a gift horse in the mouth.
>>142806728
The wish goes back up to one year, which by crazy random happenstance is just about how long they've been collecting fuel.
Plus, the time restriction sorta went out the window with reviving Frieza, didn't it?
>>142806741
That, or he is a recent "convert" and just steamrolled through Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball Super.
>>142806686
The fuel is enough for a one way trip through time. I think the amount of time he would travel is not directly linked to the amount of fuel just how many times one would travel.
>>142806741
Why? Because of seasonal or some kind of "need to keep myself updated like Windows 10" nonsense? Get over yourself, you're the one who makes temporal relationships left and right depending on what's readily available. You're the kind of jackass who'd give up so easily on things given surface analysis of circumstances and thus you're the kind of person I respect so little. Go live in France, you forfeiture of a human.
when will there be any new info?
Do i have to wait until the episode?
>>142798365
I think the harvesting part was made to imply how much time has passed since the tournament.
The scene where they're eating was to explain xeno and how he destroyed some universes.
I agree that the transitions were a bit strange, but I feel like it was necessary.
>>142806686
Lack of fuel explains a one way trip as said by bulma. It doesn't mean they can only travel to a certain time period.
>>142806728
Namek Dragon Balls don't have the one year rule.
>>142806756
> the time restriction sorta went out the window with reviving Frieza, didn't it?
More or less. Shenlong can bring back people who have been dead for longer, but he can't restore their bodies. If a human is brought back in the same state Freeza was they'll just die instantly.
Just imagine all those people blown up to pieces, beheaded and crushed by the androids coming back like that.
>>142806741
It's not like there's been a lot of important female characters in DB. And Pilaf Gang was in every major arc of the original series. Out of all the female characters, she's probably second or third in terms of total screentime (Bulma being first of course and Pan possibly second).
>>142804458
>No reaction to 18 and Krillin
>>142806860
Nevermind what I said about shenlong bringing back people killed by the androids. Somehow I if any Dragon Balls are used in future trunks timeline, it's the Namek ones.
Still, that's the gist of how Shenlong bringing back people dead for that long would go.
>>142806873
Pan?! Fuck Pan! What about fucking Chi-Chi!
So, a couple thoughts:
>Is the time capsule Trunks is using in Super the same as he used in Z? If not, then it is most likely yet another alternate timeline, because a planet that ravaged most likely would not have the resources to make another one.
>Future Trunks' last trip to the past (that I can remember) was the Cell saga. That being said, he only knows for sure that the Z-fighters were at their highest power at that time. He doesn't know about SS3, god, blue etc., so logically, and he is supposed to be intelligent and logical, he would go to a point in time where he knows the strongest Z-fighters are still alive and would be the strongest he's ever known them to be, which is the Cell saga. Also, the canister of fuel is less than half full, so if the goal was to fill it up all the way to go back once then to return, chances are it's not enough to get him all the way. That, or Black hitches a ride with him through the temporal distortion.
>Also, Kid Trunks > Future Trunks, he wooed Mai without it needing to be the end of the world with no other dick around for miles.
>>142806656
>why'd we even mother with this blue goop plot device?
Because they added it in for comedic effect before Grape Veggie-Drank mini-arc. Also, this leads Trunks to think life is hopeless and he's sacrificing himself (because for some reason he likes the future and wants to come back), when after the arc is done Bulma will pull a canister of blue goop out of her well saiyan-ized vagoo and he'll get to go home again having learned some important lesson or getting a magical fix for their problems.
>>142806804
Damn It Smith!
>>142806817
>Why?
No one cared about Mai before she came back for Super. Anyone who did care sure as hell wasn't showing it as much as the people who cared for Launch.
>>142804648
I live on dog and cat food and I've gone super saiyan at least twice
>>142806921
Yamph, whaff abouff Gee Gee?
>>142806921
She really wasn't in DB that much and she only had a few appearances in Z, all of which were nothing but her being hysterical and yelling at someone. Pan gets a fuckload of screentime because she's featured prominently in most GT episodes.
i just caught up with everything since the RoF retelling, honestly this show is really fun now. I love the new characters, Monaka is gold in every scene he is in.
The animation is still ass at times, but I enjoyed myself the whole way through.
>>142805193
because she's dead
>>142806941
I cared, I just didn't have HOPE! or see it coming. It was so out of left field I got major hype.
Black is Goku fused with green kai. In the afterlife goku saw trunks kill the androids and cell and was jealous he couldn't get in on the action.
Now he will seek out the dragonball in the main timeline that way the battle can last forever!
>>142793921
>>142794038
Getting wished young again removes your Aryan genes.
>>142806971
But GT isn't relevant because it's non-canon. Chi-Chi is FAR more important, because she is the mother of Gohan and Goku's lover. She was also an important secondary character in Dragon Ball.
>>142806921
She's worst girl ever since she got rid of her fringe. She needs to bring it back to be a contender.
>>142806985
Good anon.
>>142806941
Mai was unpopular, so no shit that you rarely if at all saw any love for her back then. Now go write something about bell curves because you probably need to learn a thing about gaussian distribution.
>>142807036
>lover
Wife. Don't use that tumblr bullshit.
>>142807036
It's not about whether GT is canon or not. It's about the fact that it exists and Pan is one of the main characters. Chi-Chi was never important in Dragon Ball until she married Goku. She barely appeared at all. At least Mai was the henchwoman of the main villain in the first arc and a recurring villain for the rest of DB. She was in DB way more than Chi-Chi was in DB and Z combined.
>>142799170
>these dummies don't realize a futuristic laser gun is much more deadly than a primitive ballistic weapon
Also Goku was pre-Super Sayian when he got shot by the laser.
Current enemies are > Super Sayian 3
>>142806828
Eating scene also made a nice contrast to Future Trunks eating scene.
>>142800995
>getting cuc-
>>142801045
this nigger beat me to the punch.
I'd have preferred a version of Buu from Future Trunks' timeline to this shit.
>>142800906
>anything naruto
>not delusional
Anyone who watches that shit has something wrong, the Cory in the house fags are more tolerable
Also in Trunks' future wouldn't she be like fucking 60? I just think it's weird that she just keeps that bit of information to herself.
>>142807163
Next arc will be somehow Buu related. That seems to be the trend they're following with super, vague remakes of the DBZ arcs.
>>142807028
Are you sure? Because she seems to have gotten infinitely more cute after being "youngified" and then growing up again.
>>142807076
But they DO love each other. Also, I don't use that pisshole, so I don't know the "lingo".
>>142807048
Yeah, she got a serious case of "Grandma" after she lopped off her fringe, despite having an identical face. It's amazing how hair can give or take 20-30 years on a woman.
>>142807177
Everyone is fucking dead, literally who cares if this one chick made a wish to make herself younger a decade or so ago
Also Bulma certainly knew, and may or may not have told Trunks about their misadventures
>>142807177
she's not 60. she's dead. learn the difference.
>>142807072
How can you call her your waifu for years if you never showed it? Would you call a woman your wife if you never proposed to her?
>>142807218
I care. She tried to terrorize Goku as an 8 year old and no one really knows or cares. It's also mainly just funny.
>>142807177
god fucking dammit please stop asking this shit
they made the wish to become young again during a peaceful time before kami and piccolo died
someone post the timreline pic that explains this
and also who care there are a shi ton of young looking anime characters that are a 1000 years old and no one ever complains
but for some reason everyone goes apeshit when dragon ball tries to do it
>>142807218
Bulma didn't recognize her at all in BoG. It's possible that she doesn't know. But this whole "Mai is 95.3 years old gais!" deal is just shitposting anyway. This is /a/. I refuse to believe that anyone here has never before seen a character with the body of a loli or teenager but who is actually mature, or even ancient.
>>142807260
Are you literally around 24/7 or something on the internet to know that I "never showed it"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W7w932z0rc
Apparently future goten is evil and he wants to force trunks into fusing with him into gotenks so they can take over the universe or some shit. That doesn't make sense though because they become gotenks through fusion dance, not earrings
>>142807282
Mai isn't mature though. Her mental age was always far less than her physical age back in Dragonball. It seems here she's finally matured along with her age in the dystopian wasteland of Trunks Timeline.
>>142807310
SHE IS NOT YOUR 20 YEAR LONG WAIFU. YOU PICKED HER UP 2 YEARS AGO AT MOST.
>>142806971
A shame, because Chi Chi was best girl at the end of Piccolo arc.
>>142807351
Not sorry that you're angry about what you suppose is the case. Enjoy fighting the battle of who could care less.
>>142807355
>goku and bulma never became a thing
>the episode where bulma wondered if yamcha was right as she thinks about goku
>>142807210
>But they DO love each other. Also, I don't use that pisshole, so I don't know the "lingo".
they are legally married in the eyes of the state
>>142806941
>>142807072
>No one cared about Mai
spotted the millennials. Mai is one of the GO db waifus
I saw a theory someone posted about gero living in the future timeline as an android, similar to the past timeline. He gets goku's corpse and adds some shit to it. In the first part of the new episode, we see a POV from black and everything is in green.
Not supporting the theory, but I thought it was pretty interesting.
>>142805277
Its pretty much clear they cut his ties with his world (Bulma and Mai) so he could eventually become a time patroler
>>142807351
>Sir, she is a cartoon, not your waifu!
*Shh-psh* Shut up, Veers! *Shh-psh*
>>142807388
>Enjoy fighting the battle of who could care less
I think you're projecting there.
>>142794766
10/10 plot twist, using the forest to hide the tree.
>>142807434
If your linguistic skills were any less stellar, I'd say you were a toddler on drugs. I clearly only said that she was unpopular, which was true of the time especially compared to someone like Bulma or Launch. I never actually said that "noone" cared for Mai.
>>142807403
Then Trunks would have been Goku's son and he would have been the most powerful saiyan in existence, basically Gohan without Chi Chi pushing him in becoming a family man and having a work. Hell, he could have been rich since the beginning, so he could train all day without any other worries.
>>142807471
You'll have to learn to live with what you arr.
>>142807556
I think I've changed you.
>>142807403
>Goku and Bulma never became a thing
>>142807586
Nah, I will just consider you gone.
Why does future trunk's hair come out from the middle while kid Trunks seems to have a different origin?
>>142807434
DELETE THIS
This was supposed to be for Trunk's eyes only.
>>142806741
Uh, what kind of logic is this? I have a waifu from Rayearth and she is still my waifu to this day even without a new Rayearth series needed to keep it alive. It's called loyalty, try it sometime.
Ok. Forgive me if Im forgetting something, but timetravel didnt change the future for Trunks, he is still trapped into a bad future timeline.
Assuming he wants to make contact with the Z fighters he must go to before androids to a common past between both timelines. But then if goes forward in time he will never reach the Z fighters of Dragon Ball Super, he would just travel to his shitty future.
How the fuck will he travel between different timelines? Pic related to explain my point
>>142807762
Overthinking it, the next episode preview clearly shows where he landed in time.
>>142807762
There's actually like 4 different timelines and shiet.
But I would say the same way he came back to help fight Cell and came back to tell everyone about how he killed the androids in his time.
>>142807605
Dragon Ball was made on a more innocent time, before shipping wars. Toriyama's editor fucking loved Goku/Bulma for some reason, he even supported Toriyama when he wanted to allow Goku to grow up (Shueisha wanted Goku to stay as a kid forever because they were afraid of Goku not longer being relatable to kids). And then Toriyama trolled him with Chichi
>>142807762
The time machine he has, it has a flaw. When it goes back in time, it jumps to the other time line, ALWAYS.
What Trunks wanted to do, was travel to where you said though. He wants to go 17 years into the past, to a few years after the Cell games. But it seems he didn't have even enough fuel to make it that far and instead lands 10 years in the past.
>>142807873
So he conveniently lands at the exact time where DBS is airing on tv...on a different timeline.
>>142807762
>he must go to before androids to a common past between both timelines
Dragon Ball don't work that way. Time travel in DB is basically traveling to a mirror dimension but just years before your original start point.
If he wants to travel again to the years of the android saga, he will travel to a third mirror dimension with diferent people in it. Any of the changes he does in all of his travels couldn't make any impact in the other timelines, nor in the future, nor in the past.
>>142807436
Sounds like total bull, but it's more believable than the whole Goten is black thing.
I DONT OVER ANALYZE ANY OF THIS SHIT!
BUT LET ME JUST SAY I AM ENJOYING THE FUCK OUT OF DRAGONBALL!
AND THIS WEEK MADE ME HYPE AS FUCK!
LIKE IM 12 AND WATCHING THIS ON TOONAMI HYPE!
I CANT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't watched this since Ep. 3
But this time for SURE I will stick around, just for Trunks.
>>142807953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxkM_cnjFfw
>>142807897
>So he conveniently lands at the exact time where DBS is airing on tv
YOUR RIGHT HE SHOULD HAVE LANDED ON ON ANOTHER TIMELINE THAT'S NOT ON A SHOW WE CANT WATCH.....
YOU FUCKING RETARD...
>>142807825
The thing people mess up on with Trunks is how many times he time traveled. First jump was to three years before the Androids show up.
The second jump is from that point. He says he's going back to the future, but that's a lie. He goes from that point to three years later to see if things have changed in his interfering.
It's not until after the events of the Cell saga that he finally returns to the future and then makes his final jump to the past some years after killing the androids.
What's really confusing though is Trunk's very first jump caused a bunch of new timelines to spring into existence. Not just the current one, but also the one that Cell came from in the first place.
Multiverse theory's a bitch.
>>142807873
this>>142807930
he is going to land in super because now the mechine is locked to travel to that specific dimension so it doesn't create more dimensions
>>142807873
I think the fuel is tied to how many times one can travel rather than how far back one can go. If you add up how old trunks is plus 17 that would match future Trunk's age.
>>142807897
>>142807986
>tfw there is a timeline where Trunks landed in GT universe
Now that's a thing I would watch, to be honest.
>>142802802
Everyone looks skinnier.
IN THE NEW OP THEY SHOWED A KAI AND THEN THEY SHOWED BLACK WEARING A KAI EARRING.
AND ALL YOU FUCKS ARE SAYING HE IS GOTEN?
please stop...
>>142807762
Trunks got stronk as he learned from training with Goku. He wrek'd the android's shit when he went back to the future.
>>142808021
>If you add up how old trunks is plus 17 that would match future Trunk's age.
I don't think so. Then Trunks and Mai would be around 30, and while that's plausible for a Sayan, Mai's just a human and she definitely doesn't look that old.
Calling it now. Black Goku is an android.
>>142807403
Screw Bulma, she was a bitch to Yamcha.
>>142808086
Yamcha cheated on her first, though.
>>142808079
I think it might be due to the art style. Future Bulma looked younger than she did in Z.
>>142808086
>DEFENDING YAMCHA
>Goten
>Android, Goku Cyborg
>Potara Goku with something evil
>SOmething crazier and more retarded
Which one?
>>142807974
Same. I dropped it like episode 7, but damn if future trunks wont make me watch a shitty anime.
Fucking shit hack toriyama
>>142808136
You forgot an option
>something shitty and boring
>>142808136
Since Trunks couldn't sense it's ki so it may have some type of god ki. Not saying it's a god, but it could be some sort of magic or god-like entity.
It's not Goten that's for sure.
>>142807716
That's like having a wife and never taking her out to dinner or going out with her. You aren't really her husband if you're not making it obvious. I've seen people post Vegeta in husbando threads and because of this I will accept it when people say they've husbandoed him since the beggining, but I didn't see Mai posting come up until after BoG.
>>142808110
She got mad at him and dumped him for cheating on her long before he actually cheated on her, though. The first time she dumped him out of jealousy early in DB, Puar and Wulong tried to convince him that he could find a nicer girl and he insisted that Bulma was the one he wanted. So I guess it's also his fault. But Bulma was still definitely a bitch to him.
>>142807762
>>142808062
Here is my graphical illustration which took like 5 hours in ms paint
>>142808136
I hope it's something crazier and more retarded.
>>142808192
I don't have to keep posting about her on 4chan out of insecurity or ddoubt. Maybe you just have issues. Whatever, I'm sure you'll work them out when you grow up.
>>142807762
>>142808062
Here is my actual graphical illustration which took like 5 hours in ms paint
>>142808188
Goten would make for the best drama
>Future Trunks sad that his friendGoten killed his mother
>Present Trunks resentful to present Goten once he finds out
>Goku sad he has to fight and probably kill his son, but also happy because one of his sons managed to be powerful instead of a book cuck
>Chi chi knowing she fucked up
>>142808157
>I dropped it like episode 7
and yet here i am in a dragonball thread acting like i dont care!
LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!
>>142808086
Yamcha had babes for days after Bulma. He became a sports super star and got pussy every night.
I bet some of the babes even thought he was a sayian because of his outfit. They'd be like "Show us your super sayian form, Yamcha!" and he'd be like, "Heh, maybe later girls".
>>142808252
you are retarded...
seek a bridge.
>>142808262
>>142808157
I'm waiting for dubs faam.
>>142808278
That's just like Yamcha too, even though he was completely afraid of women before Bulma
>>142808136
Post your face when the resemblance to Goku is completely coincidental.
>>142808278
stop...
>>142808262
Im a monster alright. What do you want for me~
>>142808157
I know that feel, bro.
I'd bring back the all the original artists for the Cell saga over those VA's any time. Any. Time.
>>142808304
>faam.
you should be waiting for a mass shooting you faggot...
>>142808021
Kind of strange though. 767 is the year that the Cell games took place, 17 years later is 784. That's when Trunk's originally first left, but it's been many years for him since then.
I guess if he were making a generic statement about THAT time, then using 17 years makes sense, as that's basically what he remembers it as.
But it would be far more then 17 years, more like 30 years. That's assuming that the same amount of time has passed for Trunks as everyone else, though I doubt that's the case.
788 is when Trunks was going to go back to the past and Cell showed up.
DBS has to take place in 779-780 as Bra isn't born yet and Pan was just born and hasn't had her first birthday yet.
So it would have to be 797 or so if Trunk's target of 17 years is correct. But then the question becomes, why 17 years? He has no guarantee that nothing happened in the alt timeline and that there is anything there at all.
>>142808278
Yamcha is worst guy.
>>142808332
>When Gohan was a fucking badass
>>142808354
Gohan sounds like a girl that's why I'm waiting for the dubs to arrive.
>>142808314
stop that
>>142808346
please stop fucking typing trunk's
jesus christ did you not pass grade school grammar?
Trunks is his fucking name
saying something belongs to Trunks would be Trunks'
like Trunks' sword or Trunks' disappointment in your fucking grammar
>>142807403
>tfw no future bulma and goku interaction
https://youtu.be/pkPfJ1RFiuQ#t=45s
>>142808389
>dat forehead
>>142804971
Dragon Balls exist in the past.
>>142808243
You do if you want to convince me. I never even knew Mai existed from browsing DBZ threads. You never brought her up at all.
>>142808354
when was that?
he went into a tantrum and hit shit.
how is that vegeta level of badass?
Didn't Mai's VA say on twitter she's in every episode this arc? Mai ain't dead, and if she is it's only temporary.
>>142808136
Demigra using his Earring to control Goku's corpse.
Demigra just disguised as Goku
Alt universe Kai controlling a God of Destruction Goku.
The only thing we really know for sure is that this arcs villain will have white hair because of what Toriyama said in regards to SSB and how he originally wanted it to be white.
>>142808354
>mfw I thought Gohan not getting to take out Buu was the worst thing that happened to him
I wish you Future Trunks fans the best. In this Era of GOKU AND VEGETA circlejerk,
I really hope Future Trunks doesn't show up with the plot and end up being useless the rest of the series.
>>142808354
>when the artists didn't draw moeshit for a living
>>142808413
>You do if you want to convince me
>>142808412
The soul didn't exist in the past you dummy. Her younger soul existed except it was already in the living body.
Young soul != future soul, as you can see young Trunks and old Trunks existed at the same time therefore they are different instances of the soul.
wait i dont get it, isnt trunks basically fucked now because his future wont change at all (like in the original), the only reason he went back to the past was to save another timeline, which is the 'canon' timeline we watch, and now he's just going back to save his ass basically?
>>142808408
which one
Why would anyone even think Black was Goten when the little nigga was never even born in that timeline?
>>142808408
Most women are like that. They cover it up with long hair.
>>142808418
flash backs...
>>142808418
That could still be loli Mai. No, the problem comes from the comment that the producer said. Which was that Adult Mai would have a surprising role.
Getting killed to add fuel to Trunks' angst isn't surprising. So something is up with that.
>>142808332
>>142808262
>>142807974
that's cool and all but please at least watch the 2 movies and then start watching from the begining of the tournament arc
i don't want to see your stupid questions when Zeno sama, champa, vados or even kibito shows up again and you have no idea of why they are here or who they are
>>142808458
He's going back to get help so that he can save whatever is left of humanity.
i literally love dragon ball
>>142808464
Because they seriously need to do SOMETHING with Goten.
>>142808493
ah, so future trunks training arc v2?
>>142808509
Yes.
>>142808501
Me too.
>>142808464
this is /a/ dragonball fanbase
they are really really retarded.
watch them point out some alt universe theory to Justify the small bus they are on...
>>142808482
I watched the 2 movies, nerd. Fuck the anime rehash though. That shit can kiss my ass.
I'm here for Future Trunks. That's it, that's all.
>>142808478
Last week you couldn't say that you thought Mai was going to die in this episode without 20 manchildren jumping in to inform you how much of a retard you are. I bet they were really surprised.
>>142808458
No, probably what the plan was, was for him to go to the past, train up enough to be able to beat Black and then return.
Training with strong people is a million times more effective then just training himself and he wouldn't have a homicide maniac trying to kill him.
Either that, or convincing someone from the past to travel to the future to kill Black.
Either way, it looks like Goku and Vegeta will do just that. Though how they will fit in the time machine together when it seats only one person is beyond me. Maybe current Bulma will make her own time machine, she already was making time machine fuel.
>>142808482
>>142808262
are you retarded?
>>142808530
would have left 18 alive and bred with/10
>>142808530
You're gonna be so disappointed anon :(
>>142808493
>implying there's anything left
>>142808555
what did i say?
i just want him to know the new characters from the previous arc because im sure at least hit and cabba are going to be important later
IT'S CLEARLY GOTEN
>>142808536
More like disappointing. It's probably the most contrived thing they could do. Everyone was expecting a death to add a sense of despair to everything and we got that in Bulma, tossing Mai onto the pile is just excess.
Mai's VA was also talking about how her role was 'major' in the upcoming arc. Just getting flashbacks every episode, or Loli Mai being center stage doesn't feel like major to me.
can someone answer why they are freaking out over not being able to return to the future?
his mom literraly exits in the past too.
but anon she dont know teh time travel formula.
DRAGON BALLS!!!!!
>>142807762
You're an idiot.
>>142808605
then why did he say "today you die sayajin" at the end of the episode
>>142808604
g
o read that post and then feel bad about your reading comprehension...
>>142808607
>Mai's VA was also talking about how her role was 'major' in the upcoming arc
No she didn't say that. She just said she would appear in more episodes.
>>142808581
That fight gave me my ryona fetish.
>>142808579
Bred some revenge, you mean.
>>142808581
Yea. Yea ... I already was with the new DBSuper design for Trunks. Was him being a skinny twink supposed to mean he stopped training since they were at peace?
maybe...
>>142808636
why are there self hating jews?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxnjoTkr3CE
will future trunks be a bad ass like where he kills future 17 / 18 + cell? this was always so satisfying to watch
>>142808605
he is a cute!
A CUTE!!!!!!!!
>>142808660
Revenge babies.
>>142808654
God there are so many quotes floating around it's hard to keep track of what's real or not, or bad translations and shit.
Last I saw, the quote was that she was in EVERY episode for the next arc.
>>142808581
sure wish blakarot pummeled mai like this on the first episode instead of just blasting her
>>142808660
implying you would bang 18 every night till she loved it and begged for more...
>>142808702
Maybe one day in the future they'll decide to remake DBS with decent fucking artists and we WILL get a scene with Mai getting blacked like that?
>>142808644
oh i see now you used green text and i didn't notice
ow well the rest of the comment looked retarded so it blended with the other ones , sorry
>>142808636
Gotens body possessed by someone else
>>142808680
fucking hot!
she has too raise them and eventually comes to love them and him.
makes my dick get feels!
>>142808464
Actually he was. CHichi was fucked before the androids
>>142808764
check out this moron!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
>>142808764
Lmao
And how did trunks not know there was a goten? Why didn't gohan tell trunks about goten? It makes no sense.
>>142808919
movies are not canon
>>142808919
Because after his father died Goten escaped to live in the mountains. Where he went crazy.
>future trunks is back
>everythings once again gone to shit
>and its some goku looking motherfuckers fault
picked right the fuck up, i can suffer through the retardation of the tournament arc for this.
>>142808979
no it's Trunks' fault for being a weak cunt
>>142808957
There is no redepmtion for this faggots
>>142808945
Nigga, why didn't trunks mention goten? Why would goten turn evil as a kid or why wasn't goten helping trunks fight the androids?
Why would goten be orphaned when clearly it was possible for a kid like trunks to stay alive all this time?
Trunks looks better with blue hair, I have to say
>>142808992
doesn't matter really, just by following the random reasons shit happens could still make this a very good arc, also theres the fact that theres all kinds of potential to what the fuck actually happens when future trunks inevitably runs like hell back to main timeline DBverse, and just the responses there.
>>142809047
future trunks movie/special wasn't canon, you dont know what a goten was until the buu saga
>>142799170
Goku didn't find a way.
Is Future Trunks the only Z fighter who never plays around and fights to win as fast as possible?
>>142809356
Gohan (except in the first part of his fight against Cell) is like that. Maybe that's why Trunks is the way he is, because Gohan trained him to be like that.
>>142807050
I don't know why but that ost and animation during his introduction was great.
>>142809426
They spent more than 2 cents on the budget for that scene
>>142799911
Reading http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34227&p=1100140#p1099778 It kinda makes sense.
Edgy Goku arc could be actually interesting if pulled out correctly.
>>142809356
Yeah. When he knows he has the power and advantage. He goes for the kill immediately.
>>142797270
Have you actually seen them all?
>>142809603
>>142809661
Requesting the one where Trunks appears behind 18 and punches her through a building
>>142809746
I'm mostly just going off /a/'s opinion on them. I'm waiting for the dub before I watch DBS.
>>142809762
It never gets old.
>>142809762
>not backtothekitchen.gif
>>142809796
Abridged made that joke.
>>142809257
I know that dummy. I'm saying that Goten was not mentioned by Trunks. Why did Trunks only mention Gohan as the remaining two fighters fighting the androids.
>>142809893
Wasn't Goten only announced after the Cell saga? If that's the case then it's probably just Toriyama not thinking ahead and then deciding to put him.
Either that or Goku died before fucking Chichi.
>>142809943
I'm pretty sure goku died before fucking chichi. I got no proof, but that's what my gut tells me.
>>142793921
>AND WHY DOES SHE CARRY A FUCKING GUN WHEN THE ENEMY IS ABOVE SUPER SAIYAN LEVEL?
1. A gun is all that is needed against Goku, and the bastard looks like Goku
2. A gun can be used against beasts, robbers etc. when Trunks is not around.
Her 'decoy' strats failed miserably, though, as Trunks showed no interest in going with it (nor in stopping her).
>>142799304
For the fun of it.
>>142807464
That's Motti, dude.
Veers is Vader's pal.
>>142809943
Yeah, but we know the character was referred to it as goku black and not goten black. Why would toriyama or any staff member that said it not say goten?
>>142804346
Do you think maybe whiss would be able to repair his timeline? He'd definitely have to transcend time and space blah blah, so it's not like there'd be a second whiss in that timeline
>>142793921
I've seen Mai's eyes be black in original canon stuff too. They can't get here eye color right, nor Trunks' hair.
POTTERY
>>142810898
nah m8 her eyes were always black in the manga and illustrations. toei just fucked up the color in the anime and made them blue
So much smile unprotected in just one episode.
>>142810898
>>142810934
Who cares about her eyes, she's dead.