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>MC about to sex his girlfriend
>Dad suddenly shows up
>Wants to congratulate him on getting laid

Nobody told me Baki was a comedy.
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>>142792423
It took you this long to notice? It only gets more ridiculous from there on too.
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>>142792423
What seeing Yujio force George Bush to drive him around didn't clue you in
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I guess not everyone can notice that it's just some guy's bara comedy fetish.
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>>142792715
Oliva is a damn gold mine. Like the time he implied if his muscle strength was unleashed, it would literally become an Akira flesh-monster and consume the entire world.
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Literally
>Dad walks in
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>>142792423
http://jburogu-godzillaradio.blogspot.com/2012/02/video-subbing-ametalk-20100617-baki.html

Have you watched this, OP? Some jap comedians cosplaying as Baki characters explain the series to a female audience. Way funnier than you'd expect. If you're at the point in your pic it has some minor spoilers, though.
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>>142793056
At first I was like...
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>>142794069
...Then I was like...
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>>142792423
>Nobody told me Baki was a comedy.

You are still in the more "serious" part of the manga, it gets even more comedic later.
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>>142794142
I wouldn't call the Pickle arc or the final arc of SoO comedic in any way. Nor really half of Dou.
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>>142794408
I disagree with OP, since I wouldn't really call Baki a comedy as I never feel I'm being told a joke. The tone is serious. But the straight facedness of it only makes every ridiculous event funnier. If you don't see the hilarity in the premise of martial artists fighting an unfrozen caveman I don't know what to tell you.
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Baki is super serious fighting manga.
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>>142794692
>>142794817
did you miss the whole "I guess I was wrong" part
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>>142794942

It still worked however.
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>>142795019
>he's just sleeping
uh-huh
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>>142795117
He proved the strength of Shinshinkai Karate
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>>142795425
aaand it's gone
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>>142795566
Its memory will live on.
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>>142792423
I'm just here for the gay porn.
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The fuck... Is the anime for Baki any good or only the manga? I'm new to it
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>>142795988
First season is ok. Gay club music is nice. Lately it gets referenced a lot.
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>>142795988
You need to watch the anime to get the entirety of the first series as-of-now. Everything else is TL'd.

The anime isn't great, but it has its moments. See: Shibukawa vs Doppo
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>>142796043
https://youtu.be/mTArWeDNpOE
https://youtu.be/BzAEa2PG3EI
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>>142795988
The part of the manga covered by the first season was just finished scanlating, you only need to watched the second season (subtitled Maximum Tournament).
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>>142796124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYztwpF2AAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y46I5-7b2-c
My favorite are these two, especially the latter.
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>>142795988
Only the first series is animated. It goes Original Manga (OVAs->anime)->New Grappler Baki->Baki Son of Ogre->Baki-Dou
Shit gets really goofy in Son of Ogre, but the entire series is a rollercoaster. Fuck I need to get back to this. I'm still stuck on Pickle.
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>>142794069
Oliva's ball form is what made me pick up this manga in the first place. Son of Ogre really is the pinnacle of Baki, when it fully embraced the ridiculous sci-fi powerlevel nonsense.
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what the fuck is this art
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So why does the Ogre apparently like Oliva? They seem remarkably chummy.
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>>142796489
Because he's strong as fuck
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>>142796489
>>142796536

I hate how they gave off the impression that oliva was a potential rival but he got surpassed mid way and is a complete joke.
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>>142796489
They're both psychopathic, and both merciless. Not so much "friendliness" as it is "respect", and even that disintegrates at a certain point. The only people Yuujiro actually acknowledges as relative equals are Kaku, Baki and Musashi.
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>>142796586
The idea is that both Baki and Yujiro are constantly improving mid fight. Originally Orochi Doppo was able to fight toe to toe with Yujiro.
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What's Baki's endgame going to be? Ancient Egyptian aliens? The Norse gods being real? Jesus coming back to life to challenge Baki to a street fight?
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>>142796478
It's a world where natty limit doesn't exist and loosely based on traditional Japanese woodcuts.
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>>142796680
Yujirou physically overpowering Oliva, whose entire gimmick was being the physically strongest person in the universe, was pretty damn stupid.
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>>142796776
He was tired that day from pounding his BBW waifu.
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>>142796718
nah we seemed to be moving up in timelines not backwards

caveman -> mushashi -> Mike Tyson -> A Cyborg -> Saitama
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>>142796776
Did you forget the entire third part started with Yujiro killing a Super Elephant with his hands?
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>>142796586
It happened to Gaia, too. The point was made very early on: Yuujiro continuously gets stronger. The Yuujiro at the beginning of the manga squared off decently against Doppo before going all-out, whereas end-game Yuujiro could literally just throw him away without much of a thought.
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>>142796687
Is that hand drawn or digital?
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>>142796776
I don't get the feeling that there's no technique involved in this page >>142796680
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>>142796873
Hand.
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>>142796478
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>>142796830
>>142796872
Man when is Hanayama going to come back to the main series?
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>>142796999

Itagaki tracing women makes sense.
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>Retsu died
>Katsumi is somehow still alive
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>>142796489
He's strong as fuck and he's not a "fake" in the sense many martial artists are. His fights are straightforward contests of strength, at least on his part.

In general it seems Yuujiro is more fond of straightforward brawlers like Oliva, Pickle or Hanayama (see their recent little fight) than martial artists. The former know their place in the pecking order - either they can overpower someone or not. The latter are putting on airs through tricks Yuujiro isn't really impressed with since he could do them better. To win Yuujiro's respect as a skill-focused martial artist you need to be Kaku tier. On that note I wonder what Ogre thinks of Shibukawa and thought of Retsu since they didn't interact much

>>142796680
They were quite chummy in that little spar too though.
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>>142797022
He took a punch in the face from Hanma Yujiro.

He's not coming back until at least chapter 150.
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>>142796866
Could current Baki beat beginning-of-manga Yuujiro?

(in fighting, not imaginary dining room antics)
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>>142797131
not for long if I have anything to say about it
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You think Katsumi can still do his regular sonic punches from the tournament with his remaining arm, or would he have PTSD about going fast?
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>>142794942
he still accomplished the most powerful single punch in the series.
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>>142797478
I'd say beginning Yuujiro is probably on par with present Doppo, so yeah.
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>>142796830
>>142796872
I love how Hanayama is so fucking strong he doesn't even train and just fucks shit up. He has a perfect body.
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So why do people seem to have a problem with armored Memetobe tanking the hits of a toothless, limp Jack?
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>>142797829
I'm enjoying Baki Gaiden: Scarface so far.

Will we see this guy fight again?
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>>142797591
Is there really any reason to believe Doppo became stronger at all?

In my mind he was at his peak in his fight with Yuujiro and since his death in that he's (at best) fully recovered.
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>>142798222
Hopefully not, he's too valuable to risk life and limb in fight.
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>>142798271
We could make the same argument about Pickle and Musashi.
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>>142798225
It's repeatedly stated that he's training to get stronger throughout the manga, and that he's at the peak of his strength. He explicitly said he was going to train to become stronger after he loses in Maximum Tournament, and Katsumi says that he's training hardcore yet again at the beginning of Dou - there might be times in between those when he's said to have improved, I just don't remember everything. Regardless, everybody improves after surviving their fights in Korakuen. That goes for Shibukawa, Jack, Retsu, Motobe, etc. It's merely that Baki outpaces their progress because he's Baki.
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>>142798657
He could save them from getting a bullet in the brain but not the other way around.
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>>142798657
Payne doesn't believe that anybody's strong enough to beat Pickle except for Musashi (or Yuujiro), and Musashi's existence can't be made known to the public or Tokugawa & friends go to prison.
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>>>/sci/8138965
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How is this muscle thing style called? Like Baki, Shigurui, some of JoJo for some extent. I believe I saw it on /toy/, but it was two their dead archives ago.
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>>142799530
Ukiyo-e? It's just traditional Nip art.
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>>142799626
Well, whatever. Thank you.
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>>142799969
Oh wait, I think you might have been thinking about this guy? He's the closest Western reference.
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>>142800131
I mean, he does draw hands the same way.
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>>142799530
>>142799969
I know what you mean, and I'm pretty sure I remember reading it was called "flesh bomb" but googling the term now gives me nothing related.
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>>142800191
Most obvious reference point.
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>>142794692

WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING!?
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>>142800131
anon pie?
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>>142800404
He's using his imagination to help himself conquer the limitations placed on the body by the mind. To bypass all unconscious limits. By doing so, he gains the ability to strike harder, but also completely destroys and loses his arm, as seen here: >>142794942 and >>142795566
He realizes (too late) that his arm cannot become what it is in his imagination, and almost dies.
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>>142800548

man even I can tell that's a bad Idea and I never got past white belt
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>>142800404
Baki - Son of Ogre, chapter 120.

The Pickle Arc is when you start to look for the brakes on this train.
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>>142792423
The art looks hilarious. That should have been your first clue.
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>>142800612
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>>142800591
It's cyclical. Once you reach a certain point, you realize that everything you know is wrong. See: perfect seiken
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Baki himself looks really moe somehow, even if everyone else looks like their faces were beaten in with a shovel
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>>142800947
>everyone else looks like their faces were beaten in with a shovel
Half of them have had far worse than that, so
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I only barely knew Baki by reading fragments of the manga and told a friend it's "realistic" meaning the realistic as in, no throwing fireballs around or magic. He then read the part when Yujiro stopped an earthquake with his fist and never let me live it down.
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>>142801131
>Yujiro stopped an earthquake with his fist
he didn't; it's ambiguous on purpose
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what's the probability of the author of this not being gay?
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>>142802722
What's wrong?

Does the sight of a strong man make you uncomfortable?
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>>142802870
No, but the amount of pissing and erections in this manga does.
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>>142802919
What erections?
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>>142802919
There's not much, so you might be unconsciously gay.
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>>142803009
>What erections?
Off the top of my head, Oliva when fighting the shotgun dude.
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I can never decide if I want to read this or not.
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>>142803058
>1/1
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>>142803091
Do it.

In the amount of time spent coming to a decision, you could be up to the Raitai Arc.
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>>142803091
Make up your fucking mind.
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>>142803136
Why did Memtobe moving cause Jack's teeth to explode?
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>>142803171
Read the manga.
http://spinybackmanga.com/?manga=Baki+Dou&chapter=Chapter+095+Tooth+and+nail
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>>142803171
They were embedded in the aramid cloth.

Motobe pulled away so hard that they were ripped out of Jack's mouth.
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>>142803091
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>>142803288
Trump is going to MBGA
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>>142803317
do you think trump will make an appearance in baki if he wins? this hasn't even crossed my mind
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>>142803288
Always irritated me that Spiny changed this. Shoulda just left a TN.
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Recently finished the anime series since the first part isn't fully scanlated.

Goddamn, what a fun anime. I'm surprised I don't see it recommended more.

Has anyone written a pasta about Baki being secretly super deep because of its allusions to oedipal urges? Because if not, someone should; it'd be hilarious.
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>>142803371
Yes
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>>142803400
The Oedipus stuff is only in the first series, in that saga. Baki doesn't even like his mom later on. I really like that Itagaki didn't go the typical maturity route.
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>>142803466
This isn't very funny because he has actually been in WWE and he came in with two women on his arms

>>142803400
Yes someone has while not joking about it
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>>142803508
do you have the pasta? I don't remember that
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>>142803547

Grappler Baki is about establishing Baki as a character, exploring his past and motives, and revealing all of the major characters.

New Grappler Baki is about the major characters' stories and their fights, Baki maturing into his late teens through romance and sexual congress, introducing Baki's father as a multi-faceted character (but not to Baki himself) and establishing the differences between the world the Baki fighters live in and the world ordinary humans live in (hence the Ali Jr arc).

Baki: Son of Ogre is about Baki maturing into true adulthood and conquering his own fears, anxieties, regrets; coming to understand Baki's father with absolute clarity, and completing their "father-child" relationship. The series' tone matures with him - the most mature stuff in all of Baki is in here. It's centered around the approach and eventual confrontation between Baki and his father.

Baki Dou is post-confrontation: Every one of the major characters is bored, due to the unbelievable spectacle that was the father-son fight. There's a plateau that they've all reached, and there is really very little way of getting stronger beyond that point, nor is there any reason to do so - they already lack any real opposition. The benefactor of the strong realizes this and makes plans to create a new, absurdly strong threat to the characters.


Not actually a pasta per se but I think of it immediately when thinking about baki shitposts
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>>142803508
I can't find that webm or gif in my Trump folder.
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>>142803628
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These muscle bodies look disgusting
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>>142803601
that was me you bitch
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>>142803485

This is about the point I'm at in the manga.

Feels nice to have something I look forward to reading again.
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>>142803677
Correct
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>>142803688
>
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>>142803659
Thanks

>>142803671
Then you clearly don't spend enough time on /fit/ or at the gym, because these muscle bodies look glorious.
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>>142796718
Humanoid cockroaches. You heard it here first
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>>142803773
Yuuichiro > Yuujiro in terms of aesthetics

it's Yuuichiro now btw not Yuichiro
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>>142803671
>>142803773

The art looks absurd at first glance, but that's what makes it so great; it's so detailed and ridiculous that everything looks interesting and exciting. Even things like Speck pissing looking menacing and hilarious.
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>>142803851
Anyone can lose body fat when they're dead.
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Just started reading again, holy shit motobe is apparantly amazing out of nowhere now?
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>>142803925
He's trained since Grappler Baki.

He's also allowed to use weapons, so he can do better against Yanagi than Shibukawa.
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>>142803925
It's not entirely out-of-nowhere. Did you read New Grappler?
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>>142803983
Im not complaining, this is amazing. Just, dayum.

>>142803988
I did, but it's been a while i must admit, I should probably go back for a re-read.
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>>142803851
Yujiro and Yuichiro btw
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Guys what music should I listen to while I read New Grappler Baki?
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>>142804033
Yuujirou*
Yuuichirou*
I refuse to add the 'u' at the end.

>>142804091
Convict arc and Raitai? Early Swans.
Ali Jr arc? This on loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge48LitXsUw
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So does Jack Hammer also potentially have access to the Hanma bloodline powerup, or is that Baki-only? Are we gonna see it in the future?
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>>142804342

>early Swans

Seems like a fitting suggestion anon, and thankfully, I already have a bunch of Swans albums on my computer.
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In which chapter does yujiro fight against pickle?
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>>142804351
Jack's body is extremely fucked up because of some biological defect iirc, which is why all of his strength is a result of hard work, instead of just nature, like Baki. Fairly certain he would refuse to use it even if he had it: every ounce of strength he has is because of hard work. He'd be too proud to use it.
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>>142804351
>roid guzzling lanklet who is soon to be on his fourth set of teeth getting the demon's back
NEVER EVER
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>>142804504
He doesn't. That's the whole joke. Every other main fighter goes out of their way to fight Pickle, yet Yuujiro's only interaction with Pickle is saying "huh, I kinda wondered how I'd fare against you" before Baki knocks Pickle out of the way
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>>142804527
>all of his strength is a result of hard work

Did you see the part where Retsu and Baki track him by the trail of syringes and bottles he left behind him?
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Holy shit I completely forgot about this panel. It's hilarious.
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>>142804687
Have Doppo and Oliva even met?
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>>142804610
Uh, so that's why i had so much doubt on my mind when i started searching for it
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>>142804687
What chapter's that from?

>>142804803
Pretty much all the main characters know each other personally; I'd find it hard to believe that Doppo didn't at least know who Oliva was.
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>Baki defeats Musashi by tapping into his demon blood and his hair permanently stands up on end like Yujiro for an arc as he is consumed by bloodlust while all the boys try to find out more about the Hanma bloodline
Find a fault with this booking
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>>142804342

I decided to listen to Melvins instead, anon. Also fitting.
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Am I the only one who wants to see more of Baki's regular life.

I want to see how people at his school react to his insane Hanma ways.
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>>142805911
You're lucky I'm here.
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>>142806371
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>>142792423
I told you about this scene from one of the last baki threads and you didnt even describe the scene accurately
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>>142805637
not enough Yuuichiro
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>>142806520
And that's the end of our look into Baki's regular life.
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>>142792423
I specifically told you about this scene from one of the last baki threads and you couldnt even describe it accurately
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>>142806431
Literally nothing bad to say about bloodlusted Baki
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>>142806570
It'd be pointless/unfounded. Every other arc in the series has had a point.
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This shit is great, boys. I can't believe I waited so long to check it out.
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>>142806675
Baki has defeated his idol and reached the summit of strong so he goes crazy with power after his Hanma blood gets stirring
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>>142806719
This isn't Tekken.
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>>142806768
It basically is though when Baki gets the demon back while fighting Yujiro and his hair stands up the way Yujiro's does when he thinks about Oliva vs Che but they keep fucking around instead of fighting in the prison cell

Shit is anime as hell
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>>142806768

Actually, the closest analog of Baki outside of manga is probably Tekken. First thing I thought of when I started it.
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>>142806710
Just wait till you get to the part where a crooked ex-cop, acknowledges the futility of harming Oliva with a shotgun, and thus decides to go for a superior weapon.

He then pulls out a... Y'know what, just keep reading, you'll see.
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I kinda dropped Baki with the introduction of Pickle, did Yujro fought against Pickle in the end?
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;_;
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>>142807918
yujiro and baki eventually fight, pickle tries to butt into that at one point and both of them end up scaring the ever living shit out of pickle then.
also, at least read to the end of baki son of ogre, seriously that fight is the absolute pinnacle of the series in my opinion, its the culmination of all the ridiculousness and sheer insanity that is baki, holy hell that was an amazing ride.
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>>142792423
Best dad.
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>>142806768
>This isn't Tekken.
>implying Tekken didn't rip off Baki since forever.

Get on with the times oniichan.
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>>142800548
so he is pretty much cripple?
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Kasumi story in Baki is depressing.

He starts out as smug, but actually si good intentioned to his detriment.
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>>142809106
More misguided than "good". Letting Doyle get away was probably one of the worst things he could have done.

>>142808705
Yeah, but the only people who would point it out are people who he will never really encounter again (Baki, Yuujiro).
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I just fucking noticed that it goes full circle. This is why I love this series.
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>>142811723
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>>142811777
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>>142811807
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The Baki author has a military background and was also a martial artist. People who go "haha the author must be retarded if he thinks that's how fighting works irl" and don't realize it's meant to be silly fun action are condescending jerks.
>>142799530
I have no idea if there's a name for it but a lot of people are dumb and mistake it for Liefeldian misunderstanding of anatomy.

To be fair I think Araki is far less technically skilled than Takayuki Yamaguchi or the guy who draws Baki whose name I forgot but his lack of anatomical expertise is expressed in subtler ways. It's obvious the characters in parts 1 and 2 are meant to have crazy proportions.

Well Shigurui is an exception since it's for some reason accepted as a "deep serious art manga" even though it's not even that much more ridiculous than something like Apocalypse Zero. You can tell he was aiming for more mainstream "serious manga" appeal but it's still silly as fuck and full of ridiculous bara guro fanservice.
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>>142811841

>>142811840
>Shigurui is an exception since it's for some reason accepted as a "deep serious art manga" even though it's not even that much more ridiculous than something like Apocalypse Zero
>it's still silly as fuck and full of ridiculous bara guro fanservice
thank you, now I'm not the only one saying it
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>Asks Baki's girlfriend out on a date
>Challenges two people to fights with consent and wins
>Suddenly everyone starts ganging up on him and kicking the shit out of him in turn while he's injured

Please do not bully the Jr.
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>>142811870
The way people completely ignore the ridiculousness and flamboyance of the Shigurui manga is hilarious but I think I know why that's the case. The anime significantly downplayed that aspect and was presented more as a traditional "hardcore manly anime". People got introduced to it through the anime so when they checked out the manga and the overall story was the same, the ridiculous gayness sort of just became an elephant in the room that everyone was too afraid to point out.

For the record I don't even think the flamboyance is bad, I just find it funny how online reviews of it are completely straight-faced and NEVER acknowledge that aspect.
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>>142811980
>while he's injured
pls
Shibukawa took him on the second time while he was essentially at full strength and trashed him; Jr only had a broken finger when they fought, which doesn't even count as a handicap when you realize that's not why he lost the second time. And Doppo didn't really have many options - it was either fight Jr while he was still fucked up, or wait x months for him to recover. They weren't screwing around when they said matches were different from fights, and that's what we're seeing again with Motobe vs Jack.
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>>142812039
I didn't honestly know there even was an anime until well after I dropped the manga. More than the gayness, I hated the ~4-layered flashbacks and other contrivances. I always say that the full story of Shigurui can be told in 3 pages. One in the first volume, and two in the fifteenth.
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>>142812240
I don't think it's bad but it's really transparent about being Yamaguchi's one attempt to be mainstream and serious among a sea of immature gross out ridiculousness that general audiences would never go anywhere near.
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Right, I'm just posting this so it's in the archive for later and so I don't forget about it. And so that people remember to take WFP with a grain of salt.

I checked the raws and, in the Ali Jr arc, they don't uniformly describe their fights as 'matches' and 'real fights' ("shoubu" and "jissen").

Shibukawa describes the first fight as a 'game' and 'playing around', and that their second fight is a 'duel'. It's not a term that implies extreme brutality like 'real fight' does; he's just saying that he's actually paying attention this time.

Jr tries to refer to his first fight with Doppo as a 'fight to the death', and Doppo dismissively refers to it as a 'match' (does actually use "shoubu" in this case); says that unfair fights are simply how the world works re: himself choosing to fight a wounded Jr.
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New raw is out.
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>>142814360
Nice timing.
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God fucking damn it, it's happening again.
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>>142792715
This guy gave me PTSD and I haven't even touched Baki.
I was the OP of that Chihayafuru thread.
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It seems like Baki isn't at all concerned about Pickle, so I guess he thinks Pickle can beat Musashi. Hmm. Will Pickle die please?
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WHEN is Motobe gonna fight Musashi?
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What the hell
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>>142814653
Right after Motobe fights Baki. I know it's unlikely but I really, really want it to happen. It'd be the perfect appetizer to the godly feast that I pray Motobe vs Musashi will be.

Motobe is the only one who realizes how serious Musashi really is underneath his jokey exterior and hence will force Musashi to fight him seriously; it may immediately become a really brutal, gory battle with constant high-impact violence. I'm hoping for it to be the bloodiest, most wince-inducing fight in the series yet.
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>>142814857
Remove all your teeth and try to close your mouth. That's what happens.
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tru luv
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>yfw your bro comes to cheer you up
PICKLE A CUTE

CUTE
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>>142815732
It's kinda bizarre that they're friends when they tried to murder each other.
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>>142815910
Nonsense, it was a friendly competition between young bois.

Baki&Pickle are buds4lyfe now.
Though I wonder what Baki said to Pickle, he looks pretty smug.
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I fucking love this dumb gay manga.
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>>142815985
It's not gay when it's a caveman, and Pickle is a pure, innocent flower, don't you dare insinuate otherwise.
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>>142814360
>http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1701554
So what was that even about?
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>>142816295
>So what was that even about?
Baki probably did something to Pickle, maybe only seeing Baki was enough for Pickle to get a confidence boost, who knows.
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>>142816295
Don't know Korean, but it seems to me they're talking about Pickle and Musashi fighting again.
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>>142816295
Pickle was holding back I guess because Gorokou is sweating while Baki is smug
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>>142816622
>>142816619

Makes sense for Pickle to hold back, didn't even show the scar mode.

Please pickle, put Musashi back in the ground, even though I know it won't happen.
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>>142799530
Bara
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>>142815985

this manga is straighter than an arrow
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>>142816822
Musashi should kill Pickle, not the other way around.
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>>142817650
But we need both of them to fight ancient egyptian aliens in the next arc.
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>>142817650
I dunno, I hate Musashi more than I hate Pickle.
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>>142818101
That's because of the author/plot, not the character himself. Try reconsidering your perspective on him based on that. I hate him doing the same thing to different characters every chapter too, but that's on Itagaki, not Musashi.
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>>142818254
Musashi doesn't exist
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>>142818382
He's just a photograph in a history book.
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>>142818449
The Musashi and all the characters that exist in Baki are fictional characters who do not exist in reality and have their actions guided entirely by the whims of Keisuke Itagaki
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>>142818254
right but I mean Musashi as a character. How he exists is how the author portrays him. The author portrays him in a story warping, boring way, so I'd like him removed.
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>>142818254
>That's because of the author/plot, not the character himself.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. The fictional character doesn't exist outside of the author/plot, so what else are you supposed to judge him on?
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>>142818101

I like his personality, but he's just getting too hyped up at the expense on other character.
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>>142818743
Right, the fucker needs to go through Ali Jr. treatment, and finally get his ass kicked by ghost retsu.
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>>142818575
>>142818586
>>142818625
None of you seem to quite understand what a "character" is, so I'm just going to use a relatable example instead of explaining it theoretically. If Miura made 40 new chapters of Berserk that were nothing more than flashbacks to Guts tilling soil for food money in his spare time, would Guts suddenly become a shitty character? Or would those chapters have little-to-no impact on the audience's perception of Guts?
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So why does Tokugawa's sister who can not only prove the existence of the afterlife but also contact specific dead people at will have more of an impact in the world? You'd think she'd be doing something bigger than fortune telling on the street.
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>>142819138
>why doesn't
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>>142819138
She doesn't want to, in the same way that the fighters don't want to perform in the Olympics.
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>>142819135
That's Guts who is already established. This is Musashi and all Musashi has been doing is the things everyone is complaining about
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>>142819135
or in a 90 chapter manga where a character is introduced and spends all of it being borning and making other characters boring? that would influence the audience's perception, yes.
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>>142819513
>>142819557
So you understand that it has nothing to do with Musashi's character. That it's purely about the audience.

Il n'y a pas de hors-texte.
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>>142819700
>introduce a character
>people don't like him
>it's your fault for not liking him
You're not making any sense.
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>>142819760
It's not that they don't like him, it's that they say they don't like him when they mean they don't like the author's fixation on him.

Let's say I've written a book. There's 99 pages about Character A and 1 page about Character B. Character A is in no way made "better" or "worse" as a character because of his prominence, just as Character B is not "better" or "worse" due to his insignificance.

Note: 'better-written' is not the same thing as 'better'.

If you want to actually have this conversation, we'll do it on /lit/. If you don't, then you essentially concede.
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>>142819989
You realize that even without counting the tripfag, there's more than one person replying to you?

>If you don't, then you essentially concede.
kek. Ok, go celebrate.
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>>142820129
You do realize that 'you' can be used as a general reference? As in: "The people I worked with at CostCo helped me grow. I'll always remember you for that."
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Alright bois, place your bets.

How fast will Pickle job to hype Musashi?

Will Pickle be the first one to start the Ali Jr. retribution ceremony?

Will the Meme Master grace us with his pearls of ninja wisdom?

Why is Baki so smug anyway?
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>>142820593
Baki's smug because he's finished his training and believes he's strong enough to kill Musashi now. Doppo warns him against it, but that's how it is.
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>>142820593
I really don't see where they would take the arc if Pickle beats Musashi, but I don't understand the point of Pickle jobbing twice either. If they were gonna do it like Retsu and have a greeting first and then the official fight, the first one should have been way shorter.
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>>142819989
Literature isn't the only medium with "characters"

It's not about Musashi's prominence that makes him an uninteresting character. I didn't say that. I said he is boring.

The way he is written is so stale, his gimmick was played out since his first fight with Baki, and the characters around him become worse written by just being near him.
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>>142815985
Did Itagaki ever continue that oneshot about some sort of faggot obsessed with makeup or nail polish or something?
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>>142820808
That's a valid opinion which I respect. All I was trying to say is that people shouldn't associate the value of the text as a whole with the value of the text as components.
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Sorry, we were late on release because Dear Leader's sleep schedule is off or something, idk.

Ladies and gentlemen: Mambo #5.

http://spinybackmanga.com/?manga=Baki+Dou&chapter=Chapter+096+A+rare+breed

Same deal as last time, I'll post like 4 pages and then it's up to you. Have to give the site traffic somehow or I'll get in trouble.
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Pretty sure the cleaner upscaled this page for some reason, so I'm just posting the original volume version of it.
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Is this the end for Batman? Tune in next time to see the thrilling conclusion! No, not really.
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I hope Memetobe's final contingency plan is a fucking Nuke on his stomach
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>>142822279
Doyle already tried that, it doesn't really work.
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>>142822319
Wasn't that just the reactor that kept him moving?
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And that's all you get from me. Go click on the link or something.
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>>142822391
he did it more than once, so I don't think so
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>>142822173
pretty good chapter, glad it at least gives Jack some respect.
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>>142804534
Holy shit, being Jack the Jobber is suffering.
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>>142822279
>"SONO TOKI, for the first time in his life, the Memesashi felt Fear."

>Musashi

>That's your name...

>Don't underestimate Grapplers

>Our potential for evolution is infinite

>If there's a hell, I'll see you there.
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Did anyone else hate how most of the early Baki fighters were pro wrestlers? I couldn't take the shit seriously at all, with the author treating essentially actors as equivalent to real accomplished martial artists.
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>>142823163
>author treating essentially actors as equivalent to real accomplished martial artists
He wasn't. The premise was that these men put on shows *because* they were strong enough to do so without taking any real injury. They always kept their true strength dormant. That's not really any different from anyone else or anything else in the series.
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>>142822362
Speaking of that, this one looks really cute in the first panel. Not so much in the other one.
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>>142823272
Bless you for posting this page, I was looking for this and I didn't remember the volume.
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