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>she wont win

kill...me....
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>>142708783
>mirageshit
>winning

kek
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>>142708783
>only 30 yrs life expectancy
>winning the bowl

Not gonna happen, anon.
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Kawamori revealed in an interview that Mirage will win. Rip Freyjafags
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They probably only live 30 years because their whole planet is a radioactive waste dump
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>Hayate marries Freyja
>They live happily for 16 years
>Freyja croaks
>Hayate marries Mirage
>They live happily for the rest of their natural lifes

And that's how Kawamori solved the "love triangle" equation. Praise him.
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>>142709464
Oh, yeah? Well, my dad works at Kawamori and he told me Freyja wins so hard Mirage kills herself. What now, motherfucker?
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>>142709487

the protoculture designed them as a joke
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Is this worth picking up for her? She's cute.
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>>142711283
Yes she is waifu of the season.
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>>142711283
It's literally the only reason I'm watching. Worth it all and more anon.
The ED hooked me and now I can't escape
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>>142711820
>second place male goes to over hyped trash
>Both fifth places taken by uninteresting jokes
Wew Japan
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>>142708783
We tried to warn you.
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>>142711220

Their only food is apples, and their apples give you space cancer.

But only if you have them with water; that situation must have just never come up before.
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>>142711820
Reina a cute.
CUTE!
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>>142714021
Only if you have them with temple water.
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>>142709464

>Bridge bunnies ship AradxKaname
>Messer dies

>Bridge bunnies ship HayatexMirage

I'm scared for Freyja
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Why is she grilling apples?

Some sort of Jenius secret family receipe? Or does the fire kill the VARS ?
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>>142714979
>Some sort of Jenius secret family receipe?
Well she certainly didn't learn it from grandma.
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>>142711820
>no more Kira in top 5

;_; He was much more amusing than seeing Kirito or STEERU IS MY BODY up there.
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>>142708783
>being a shipper

Will gladly put you out of your misery.
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>>142708783
Time to face the reality anon.

This might help you

U.S.A suicide hotline 1-800-273-TALK (8255). Remember, it's just shipping faggotry.
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>>142714979
It runs in the family.
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>>142715359
Kira not being there isn't a new thing though
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>>142715518
This is not okay. Prepare to eat your words
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>>142708783
What did you expect? it's obvious that anyone with taste will pick a Elf as best girl without thinking twice.
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>>142715711
Who is she? A minor character?
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>>142709464
Source?
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>>142715684
Rankafags said the same thing when frontier was airing and they're still bitter now.
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>>142714979
>does the fire kill the VARS ?

Truly a Jenius
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>>142708783
I fucking called it, this is Macross, no way a smaller girl would win.
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>>142715540

I wonder if Kawamori is trying to make up for Max winning best girl in Macross and Gamlin eating death flags for dinner in Macros 7, by torturing their side character successors in Frontier and Delta.
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>>142708783
>you will never get to stroke her rune and make her cum
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>>142715924
>dat BasaraxGamlin win slot


Mirage can easily just let Freya win even if she's fucking winning because of that fucking 30 year lifespan, then she can easily win by default.
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>>142714979
stop blocking Mirage with your stupid head, Kaname.
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>>142708832
mirage is great
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>>142716616
Goddamn Max was fucking based.
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>>142708783
Win what? Her future husband waiting for her on Windermere
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>>142715924
>doubting best girl
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>>142714021
>space cancer

It's more like space meningitis.
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>>142714979
Mirage is delicious
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>>142711283
It's my favorite of the season, /a/non. It's pretty good
Freya being cute also helps
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Why the fuck do people EVER think that the energetic one will win a Macrossb Owl? Are you seriously that unaware?
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>>142718969
Freyjafags are delusional, more news at 7!
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>>142718969
The time was come. Also this time the genki is also best girl.
>thinking minmei ever deserved to win
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>>142718969
>Kawamori anime
>main heroine not winning
Choose one. Unless the main girl doesn't want the boy (Minmay) they always win.
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>>142715359
Kira was banned from NT ranks
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>>142719330
>doesn't want the boy
>implying she wasn't desperate for him after she got dumped
Top Jejels Minmei fag
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>>142716616
Kawamori didn't write Max or Milia, he reduced them to whos in DYRL (a movie he was involved) and he didn't even watch Macross 7 by his own admission.
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>>142719386
She didn't according to Kawamori, anon. Minmay is his waifu and he wasn't given her up to a piece of shit like Hikaru. Poor Misa though. Should have stayed as Global's love interest instead of making her his silver medal.

>>142719330
Kawamori never called Minmay a heroine, he stated she was the protagonist and star while Misa the heroine (love interest). So he never really broke his winning streak.
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>>142708783
Why did think like that? Because she's a younger girl? I'm starting to tried with older girls meme.
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I'm more worried about Mirage's development.

>show official summaries put emphasis it's Freyja's and Hayate's journey, she's nowhere mentioned there even if she's supposedly a main character. Frontier had Alto, Sheryl and Ranka mentioned.
>her issue is to git gud, but the one who will be affected by Messer's death is officially Hayate who looked up him and would now carry on the team (that implies Mirage is forever jobber tier with occasional input)
>her difference with Freyja is that Freyja does what she wants but Mirage isn't putting her heart, she does what she thinks she must do (doesn't this imply she doesn't like piloting unlike Messer and Hayate?).
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>>142711083
>Mirage will marry with Hayate when he's become an old man.
Gross
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>>142720098
>Poor Misa though
This right here is the main point. Regardless of the other shit she deserved much better
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I was so excited for this show when it started, but now I only watch to find out what is Mikumo.
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>>142720183
Many people said that they put her in later. Is it real?
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>>142720245
I liked most male characters in Macross except Kaifun and Hikaru. Misa and Minmay really needed better 'suitors'. Even Bretai was better as option. He could be moe.
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>>142720294
Magazines do state that Hayate's going to lead up/carry out the team after this. So yeah, it's real. Also Mikumo's VA likes Mirage because she's like a "helpless little sister" you want to protect. That doesn't exactly inspires confidence about her growth.

Hayata's VA interview stated Hayate sometimes is worried about Mirage because she's not someone like him, Freyja or Messer. She's not doing what she wants to do but what she feels has to do.
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>>142720299
I hated Minmei as well and I forgave Hikaru until they started repopulating earth.
Waifufagging Minmei, ignoring Misa and then cheating on Misa ruined everything about him for me.
Watching Minmei beg Hikaru not to leave her alone while the city burned around them was cathartic and confirmed just how self centred she was.
Max and Millia, Misa, Global and the archivist were the best.
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Freyja and Hayate have a great relationship. If I don't know about Macross's love triangle. I would thought that they're official couple in this show.
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Hopefully Kaname won't let her alcoholism get the better of her.
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>>142720381
They are the official couple don't even worry. The 'triangle' is skin deep this time. The Bowl has already been won.
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>>142720394
Hopefully she turns lesbian after this.
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>>142720359
There's nothing wrong with Minmay. She was supposed to be a young brat who will mature into a great woman. That's the point of her growth in the end. She was scared to lose a friend in war, it's fairly understandable, I would have done the same in her shoes. She gets everything in the shelter and finds her own resolve. It's faster in the movie because she's older there and she's begun her work as ambassador to the Zentraedi earlier. I liked the idea of Bretai and Minmay, she even taught him "humor."

Hikaru is pretty unlikable because he comes off as abusive to both girls. He knew Minmay was depressed and he took advantage of her when she needed his support as friend. His treatment of Misa is appalling too.
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>>142711820
>Kirito better than Sakamoto-ku
JUST
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>>142720431
>The Bowl has already been won.

By Mirage
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>>142708783
She'll put her life on the line and become one with the wind
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>>142720475
>By Mirage
Mirage will end with Freyja while Hayate will get killed to save both.
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>>142718024
Blame whoever took the photo
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>>142720534
Look like main heroines in front while irrelevant fodder in the back.
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>>142720457
You're warping it. Minmei came to him on the rebound looking to take advantage of his good will and even move in and mooch off him. She was abusive in that relationship not the other way around.

Secondly, the scene in the city wasn't about him dying. She wanted him out of the military in other scenes ('if you quit being a soldier I won't feel bad about quitting music') but the city scene was well summed up by her in 'Don't leave me alone'

Minmei never did anything for anyone but herself. Kaifun was an abusive hippy cunt but even he left with the moral high ground over her. She says it herself multiple times (until the final scene) she sings for herself.

Hikaru only mistreats Misa after her confession. Everything up till then was shared blame because Misa was going full autist and wouldn't make herself clear.
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>>142720577
This. Priorities are clear.
I honestly liked Kaname up until the Messer nonsense. It was nice having an pseudo manager who was still part of the crew.

Official walkure rankings:
Freyja>Kaname>extras>bitch
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>>142720381
I do wonder what's going to happen to all the fans drawing this kind of stuff when they don't hook up together or one of them dies and becomes a fold wave ghost.
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>>142720475
You wish matey, you wish
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>>142720653
Yeah Nips are so hardcore. Someone still ship Alto/Ranka even Alto's clearly reject her feeling.
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>>142720578
Minmay was confused and in a depression who wanted someone who would comfort her. Hikaru, knowing Minmay was in a depression, took advantage of the girl to live his unrequited love fantasy. He knew she didn't love him. He knew she would never actually answer his feelings. But he was so obsessed with her he twisted his good will to his 'love' and confused her further, and hurt Misa too.

She wanted him out the military because she was worried he would die. She had that pineapple premonition and was waiting home worried sick every time for his life. She hated that feeling.

>She says it herself multiple times (until the final scene) she sings for herself.

This is considered a good thing, dummie. She never sang her own songs until that scene. She was always singing for others. She wanted to find her own voice and songs in the show.

>Hikaru only mistreats Misa after her confession

They had a date and he goes with Minmay. And then pretends he was busy with "Important shit." Don't play innocent.
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>>142720640
I thought the Messer stuff was great.
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>>142720653
One of them dying only makes their pairing stronger. It also literally sends the message of "Mirage is so shit, her competition had to die for her to win." Same bullshit with Sheryl, Alto and Ranka, Rankafags only hope which kept malicious spamming was "Sheryl's going to die!"
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>>142720712
>Minmay was confused and in a depression
Fuck off you apologist. She was down on herself and needed someone to lean on. Naturally she thought of the one guy who had chased her fruitlessly and would totally do whatever she wanted.
What a poor victim.

>this is a good thing
Until the end of the show establishes that her songs mean more than approval (her first motive) or self interest (what she was in the end) but are in fact important on a larger scale.

>the date
Yeah no shit. That was more or less after the confession. He totally fucked up there, like a pathetic little Minmei lap dog. I 100% agree which is why I can't be satisfied with Misa winning. Hikaru was a decent match for her but over the course of the show he becomes more and more of a fuck wit.
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>>142720806
>Until the end of the show establishes that her songs mean more than approval (her first motive) or self interest (what she was in the end) but are in fact important on a larger scale.
That's the entire point of her development, you know. This makes her a good character because she can realize her wrong and mature. She also has the good taste to not even bother to get back Hikaru when he's obviously still after her. She damns Misa with him, instead.
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>>142720381
Remember Evol or Nobunaga the Fool, they have triangles but the OTP was the OTP from the very beginning, the third girl was irrelevant and the boys never cared about them.
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>>142720875
But MISA!! Insert Older girl speech and slow and steady wins the race, add meme pics.
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>>142720848
>damns Misa
>the bitch who let Kaifun run her life
The only thing wrong with Hikaru was that he couldn't move on with his life past Minmei. Bowing out of their lives pretty much absolves them of any future issues. Whereas minmei can go off and pretend to have matured in a 'new' city continuing to run away from her problems like she did with Kaifun.
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>>142720909
Anon, we saw Minmay two years after as successful star, songtress and ambassador of peace with the Zentraedi, escorted by Misa and Hikaru in Megaroad. She's not 'running away' of trouble. She grew up, became a great woman and a good friend of those two.

Are you ignoring Flashback and the tie in short stories? There's one she makes paces with that bitch who played soap opera villain (what her name, her rival in Miss Macross), other with Breitai and other Zents, talking to persuade new ships to join their cause of peace. She becomes the example Basara will follow before she disappears.
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>>142720909
>Whereas minmei can go off and pretend to have matured in a 'new' city continuing to run away from her problems like she did with Kaifun.

What problems? I don't think you got Minmay's character arc at all. She's perfectly fine as the show (and movie) ended, found her purpose and love, and she is set on her journey. Hikaru was a distraction, but meeting him and Misa, made her realize her true feelings (about her role).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py19HHCLdR4
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>>142708783
i am so glad she won't win. She doesn't feel right for Hayate. Mirage on the other hand is just right for Hayate.
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>>142721057
How the fuck does jobberage feels "right" for Hayate? You'll have a point if Messer returns as a chick, but Mirage doesn't even rank third in Hayate's relevant people. Based mercat is more relevant.
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>>142711820
Kiruto in second place!! Justice!
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>>142720359
and this is why i like Robotech better. Lisa won, Minmei moved on, and all was right with the world.
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>>142721057
Can you explain?
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>>142721057
>Mirage fags so desperate the only evidence they have is 'past shows'
Good luck Chuck. It ain't happening for you. Freyja is the winner.
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>>142720431
If she lose I would confused why would Kawamori make such a great connection between them.
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>>142721621
There's a possiblitiy that he's a secret alien. She felt his song and it was 'the wind'. All the Runes think he's unusually with the wind whether he's synchronising with her or not. Also he CAN synch with her.
They might pull some racial or even familial connection bullshit.

Past that, yeah, I don't know how you could explain it away.
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>>142721547
He can't really. Someone who can't grasp how much they've been pushing the "feel good" relationship between Freyja and Hayate only to push Mirage because "she's older" isn't gonna be able to give you a rationale. It's literally come down to meme pictures
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>>142721676
He has a fold receptor dude. That's why he's so wind feely.
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>>142708783
>Ranka 2.0 won't win

Colour me surprised...
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>>142721694
All the other singers do as well and they aren't as windy. They are just foldy.
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>>142721703
Yes, Mirage won't win. Secondary useless heroines don't win.
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>>142721725
>Yes, Mirage won't win.

Oh look, another Anon who just first watched Macross.
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>>142721102
she feels like a mature woman with her head on straight, not some goofy kid running around singing happy songs with her glowing head piece.

Now don't get me wrong, i don't hate or dislike Freyja. I just feel that she isn't right for Hayate.
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>>142709296
She's not gonna last to see 30.
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>>142721717
They're not flying. They're singing. In a sense they're making the wind. Wind faggots take note of the wind they make when they're doing major singing, like Freyja in episode 8. Freyja is Hayate's wind.
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>>142721768
I'm sure Mirage will win, just like Mao, Zessica, Kagura, Touma or Himiko. Slow and steady wins the race
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>>142721677
nah. its not that. I just feel that Freyja isn't good for Hayate. thats all. in other words its my opinion. nothing more.
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>>142721768
It's amusing how you make the only argument that Mirage will win, into one that she won't.
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>>142721789
He wasn't flying when she first attributed wind to him. His dance was the wind.
Sorry dude he's explicitly unusual in that sense.
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>>142708783
What the fuck is that retarded punctuation and why is no one telling you to fuck off?
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>>142721825
Wind faggots think he's windy when he's dancing

He's still doing motion in a robot. It's not that different.
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>>142708783
>...
>....
fuck off
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>>142721854
Naw it is different. Wind faggots think singing is windy but songs have colours and shit. His dance, before he even met Freyja was the colour of the wind.
Whether it's a set up to compatiablility or one to a obscured origin, who knows.

That's another point. They make a big deal out of the fact that he's moved around a bunch of times and isn't really 'from' anywhere.
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>>142708783
If you haven't committed suicide at the Ranka Beach part I suggest you make arrangements now because she'll drop like a rock and there will be nothing to hoina and gori gori about.
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Reminder that Sheruru will never be replaced.
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>>142721917
Keep it coming mate. This will go really well for my collage to entice Miragefags to tears when they lose
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>>142721911
It's still gonna be connected to him having a wind receptor. That's the "scientific" explanation for it.
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>>142721917
HOI NA

GORI GORI
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>>142721995
>wind
They're fold waves.
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>>142721820
I agree anon. This will happen to Hayate if he stays with Freyja.
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>>142721917
>Implying there're romantic feeling between Hayate and Mirage at the Ranka beach scene.
The fuck anon?
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>>142722014
I meant fold receptor. It's the same thing. Them calling it wind everything is because of their culture and because probably every windermerean has fold receptors via their runes
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>>142721990
Younger girls don't win in Macross, Freyja may be like middle age in terms of Windermere society but she's mentally and physically 14
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>>142722057
It's a meme shitpost.
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>>142721995
Don't confalte wind and fold. He has folds which is why he can link with songs. No one else in the show so far has a wind coloured song. Not the prince or anyone else.
Singing (and folds) are techniques attributed to the wind. Each song/singer is also associated to a colour. His colour is the wind.
He is a quick study at flying and good with dancing with the wind to the point of enemies noting it with shock.

There's something going on there.
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>>142722080
Just you watch mate. There's a first time for everything.
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>>142722080
>older girl meme again
Damn anon. I didn't projecting that Mirage won't win but it's not about who is older or younger, winner always have good connection with MC.
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>>142722109
>Don't confalte wind and fold
it's the same thing. You're just confused by the fact that windy's use the word wind a little too often.

Why do you think Keith screams やはりお前も風にのるか when Messer is resonating with Kaname?
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>>142722159
It's not a meme when its a signature Shoji Kawamori trope that is always consistent

The only way Freyja will win if she evolves into an older lady
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>>142722195
This is what exactly is going to happen
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>>142722173
>Why do you think Keith screams やはりお前も風にのるか when Messer is resonating with Kaname?
I just said that fold is a Wind associated thing. However Wind is more than fold bullshit which is how the prince has green songs and Hayate has Wind coloured dance.
The narrative made it clear to establish that fold stuff is referred to as wind.
It also established colours. Wouldn't it stand to reason that wind colour is a bit interesting especially for some random drifter?
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>>142722195
It's consistent until it's not. Just you wait m8
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>>142722244
When was the prince's song ever described as green?
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>>142722287
At the temple with the apples if I recall correctly.
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>>142722287
Episode 8? Freyja calls it colourless.
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>>142722387
Oh? My mistake.

>>142722287
I knew one was green it could be watch she described Walkure as in ep 1 then.
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>>142722429
She describes Mikumo's voice as rainbow colored.
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>>142722485
Embarrassing, I don't know where I pulled green from then. Point is, colours HAVE been established as a thing and Hayate's colour is The Wind. The Wind of course being thematically significant.
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>>142722522
honestly, i think its not that colours are stuck with people. Heinz' song is colorless because its a sad heavy song that he doesn't actually wanna sing but sings it anyway even though its hurting him.

Hayate's dancing was wind colored because he was having fun and left himself to dance with the song < weakest one I admit

Mikumo's song is rainbow colored because she's very good at, is really passionate about it, and is super special and mysterious.
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>>142722730
>honestly, i think its not that colours are stuck with people
It's not been shown to change between characters bt yeah it's obviously used to project who they (right now the Prince is a young dying kid burdened with the success of the war effort)
There's 0 indication to suggest that it is activity based as opposed to personalised.
It's the classic character's 'song' thing. It can change but it is representative of them.
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>>142722045
So she not good for Hayate because her life span? Damn that lame.
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>>142722045
>implying that half-windermeans would have the same lifespan as a full-blooded
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>>142723774
We'll just have to see how long Hayate survives then won't we?
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Freya is a miracle of the universe.
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>>142724721
Too bad she'll lose though
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>>142726339
She already won in my heart though.
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>>142722195
>The only way Freyja will win if she evolves into an older lady
Funny story about that
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Why do people think Mirage will win, solely based on the show, not "well it was like x in other series". Because that's the only thing I'm seeing

In Frontier, while Sheryl did dominate, there was enough evidence to make me think Kawamori could go in either direction for a while. What makes Mirage show her appeal so far compared to Freyja?
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>>142708783
>implying anyone is going to win
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I hope Freyja "maturing" basically means she'll get Double D cups
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>>142726651
Ranka had absolutely no chance. The entire show was Ranka getting BTFO and suffering.
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>>142720534
>While Walkure's fruits are juicy, Hey, Mirage it's getting burnt!! I told you it was no good to leave the cooking to the one person you must never let cook anything
Kek, she has Millias talent for cooking.

>Mirage
>A pilot of Delta squadron that has legendary grandparent pilots. She's upright and accommodating but clumsy(?). She may have started understanding Hayate.

>Freyja
Walkure's new member. She loves singing and apples, and as she gets excited, the "rune" in her hair starts to runerune [they said it]. She's from Windermere

>Kaname
>The experienced leader of Walkure that debuted as an idol. It seems like Messer was in love with her but who does she favor?
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>>142727212
>It seems like Messer was in love with her but who does she favor?
Ohhhhhh no
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>>142726651
>delusional and scared Freyjafag
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>>142727212
>who does she favor?
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>>142727286
OLD FART
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>>142727282
>Not answering the question
Why be scared when a problem of this show has been the handling of Mirage

>>142727195
Yeah but I could at least see things from the other side. Not here
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>>142727195
The Seikan Hikou made me think that she still had a chance with Alto blushing at her.
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>>142727318
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>>142727212
>It seems like Messer was in love with her but who does she favor?
Messercucks on suicide watch.
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I'd feel more conflicted about this if Messer had actually confessed to her but he just said thank you so it's not really bad
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>>142727212
>It seems like Messer was in love with her but who does she favor?
Hayate.
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>>142727399
The thing is though, Ranka was always mismatched with Alto. They never really felt like they could work as a couple. Good friends, yes. Brother, sister, yes. Couple, No. Alto and Sheryl had a date, in which Alto for a lot of it wasn't even paying a lot of attention to Sheryl (He's in fact searching for Ranka for parts of it), but they still came off as a couple that could work and had chemistry.

Hayate has great chemistry with Freyja, though they could probably give such scenes between him and Mirage too, they so far haven't yet.
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>>142727566
Have they even had a conversation?
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>>142727585
Two times, about his cat allergy.
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>>142727212
>It seems like Messer was in love with her but who does she favor?
Querule.
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>>142720534
The text at the bottom, is like SOL nonsense speculation. Like how would Freyja react to her first true summer at a beach, to barbeque, to the nice body of Kaname, and then again the smell of something burning. Whoever let Mirage cook is at fault! etc
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>grilling apples
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>>142727903
>Like how would Freyja react to [...] the nice body of Kaname

Lewd.
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>>142727903
Guessing its some sort of substitute or something since we're not getting an episode like that.
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>>142715924
Based Basara
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>>142728036
They're pineapples
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>>142728386
They look like apples.
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>>142728386
They're apple slices. You can clearly see they are. Heck you can even tell they're Windermerian apples. The word PINEAPPLE appears next to Kaname in a rather cheeky manner. It's apparently part of 35 point list of things that remind us of summer, together with apples and navels up top. Wonder where the 32 items are though.
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I hope she will win, i am the only miragefag here?
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>>142728944
Probably not

I just don't see any in show evidence why she should though
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>>142728944
She will, ignore the Freyjashitters
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>>142729081
Shitterfag please.
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>>142728944
Your existence isn't that surprising since there were tons of Rankafags back in the day.
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>>142728944
Hopefully you are. Freyja for life. Mirage is a good girl, I wouldn't deny you that I just don't think or want her to win the MacroBowl
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I like Mirage a lot, I just don't think she'll win, or at the least I have no reason to think so yet besides "muh conventions" (which applies to both of them on that note)

This is the first triangle where I liked both girls to its credit
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>>142729934
I took like both girls a lot too, though I favor Freyja in the bowl. That said, they said this triangle would be faint, so I don't think it'll even be resolved.
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If I read the fucking word "wind" one more time, I'm gonna deculture all of you.
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>>142730173
yack
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>>142730173
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Kawamori just BTFO M-Mirage will git good fags in China. He confirmed she has no talent for piloting. The OP was a fucking troll.
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>>142728944
She's fine, she just shouldn't win the bowl. She can still be a semen demon and not end up with MC.
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>>142730252
Not being talented doesn't mean she can't get good.
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>>142730301
>为啥米拉洁技术不行?
Why Mirage's pilot skill not good?
>河森:米拉洁父母并不都是机师,她妈妈是机师但爸爸是医生,所以技术不行
Kawamori: Mirage's parents are not all pilots, her mother is pilot but her father is doctor, so her skill is not good.

>美云与原始恶魔有没有关系?
Is Mikumo have relationships with Protodeviln?
>河森:这是故事之后的一大看点,不好多说哦(笑)
It will be one of big part of the story, can't tell you more now(laughs).

She's going to be a doctor. Hayate's VA interview (and episode 10) already foreshadowed Mirage's not doing what she wanted like Messer, Hayate and Freyja, but actually forcing herself into something she doesn't like which is concerning. She's going to be a doctor inspired by Freyja and Hayate who always defy what they are supposed to do as a "Jenius." She won't git gud because she doesn't like piloting.
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>>142730384
>so her skill is not good
for now.
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>>142714979
nice tits
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>>142730252
>>142730384

B-But they'll be l-like Max and Milia! A battle couple!

These are good news. Maybe she'll have a plot relevance as doctor, helping to cure Var and making her not useless piece of shit who shouts Delta Five! Delta Five!
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>>142730450
Anon, she doesn't like piloting in a show that's all about "follow your true self." Just embrace she will just wear a white lab coat instead of a pilot suit. They mentioned Hayate getting better and pulling the team, not such thing about Mirage, instead they stated she's been forcing to do something she doesn't have her heart on it.
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>>142730450
>mirage shitter in denial

Five stages of grief, right?
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>>142728944
She'll just realize her true call isn't piloting inspired by Freyja and Hayate and help to cure the Var. She's not getting Hayate though, she'll actually make contributions to the plot. Hopefully.
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>>142730606
>>142729081
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>>142730545
It's not that she doesn't have her heart in it but more like she's too bound by the rules to enjoy flying. We will surely get a happy Mirage teaming up with Hayate like in the OP, unless she ends up like Jeanne useless till the end.

Also I don't remember her ever saying she didn't like piloting in the show.

>>142730606
>mirage shitter
Now you're switching sides?
And no, I'm a Freyjafag, I don't like jumping to conclusions this quickly.
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>>142730766
>implying I give a shit about the triangle
>implying Mirage being a non pilot is even relevant to the triangle

Anon, you dumb or what? Kawamori already pins her as a talentless hack in piloting. Other interview and the show hint she doesn't even like to pilot. Let the girl grow the fuck up, quit and follow whatever job she wants in life. Be doctor (which admittedly will give her more plot relevance than jobber pilot who falls against Bogue) or nurse or waitress of the restaurant.
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>>142730877
>It's not that she doesn't have her heart in it but more like she's too bound by the rules to enjoy flying.

No, the magazine stated she doesn't like flying like Hayate and Messer, as in piloting, that's not what she WANTS to do. Which is a difference with Freyja.

She's going to get her arc of soul searching about "what makes me fly". Flying isn't equal to piloting, but what what make someone feel good. In Freyja's case, it's singing.
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>>142730877
The literal quote in the magazine and the show is that she doesn't enjoy what she does, it's not following her heart of what she wants to do but what is expected of her to do. She has no talent as pilot either, as Kawamori stated. OP will change and it was an obvious bait one.
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>>142731015
>OP will change and it was an obvious bait one.
MIRAGE/HAYATE WILL BE THE NEXT MAX/MILIA DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
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>歌を歌いたいという一心で頑張っているフレイアを見ている と誰かの"強い気持ち“って, こんなにも人を動かすんだなって思い ます 。 ミラージュ は 、頼れる仲間 。 ただ 、 彼女にはフレイアのような 「こうありたいでは なく 「 こうなくてはならない 」 という頭の固さがあって 、 少し心配 です 。

Hayate's VA. I think this is saying that Freyja is someone very strong willed/heartened who works hard to sing her songs, for whom Hayate has "strong feelings"; her way moves other people. Mirage, on the other hand, worries him a little because, unlike Freyja who is what she wants to be, she's just following "what she's supposed to be."

Mirage = weak willed who inspires protection.
Freyja = strong willed who inspires people.
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>>142731412
>Mirage = weak willed who inspires protection.
>Freyja = strong willed who inspires people.
I other words,
Mirage = Ranka
Freyja = Sheryl
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>>142731412
>Mirage = weak willed who inspires protection.
>Freyja = strong willed who inspires people.
That is literally Ranka/Sheryl and Minmay/Misa
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>>142731494
Mikumo VA stating she likes Mirage the best because she's like a little sister you want to protect definitely cast her in Ranka role. Looks are deceiving. Freyja will act more mature in the future and Hayate "will notice", while Mirage doesn't even know what the fuck she wants. It's no longer about git gud, but actually grow up. Hayate and Freyja only need to mature and polish themselves but they both are in course of what they want in life.
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This ties in to my theory that Freyja will eventually shoot up and look like a 20 year old despite being 15
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>>142720394

I'm actually hoping she dies so she and messer won't be separated anymore.
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>>142731494
>>142731593
>>142731412

It does seem that Mirage is going to be inspired by their example, like Minmay and Ranka learned from the other two in order to mature. It's a little different in Macross triangle than regular one. The ones who end up together are generally ones sharing a similar view of life and a life project.
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>>142731746
I don't think she needs to. She already looks older than 14-15, she only needs to shed some childish antics and she'll be fine.
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>>142731412
>Freyja = strong willed who inspires people.
>Implying Hayate will stop being a white knight faggot for Freyja
B-butI love when they're calling their name each other in dog fight scene.;_;
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>>142731820
While they do call each other's names. Freyja isn't a helpless jobber, she's doing her job and duty as songtress. Hayate's doing his job and duty as her protector. He also got to fly and fight that way inspired by Freyja. Without her, he'll be a hobo drifting around.
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>>142731748
Me too. And we will get a lot of their afterlife fanarts.
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>>142731820
It doesn't imply he'll stop being a white knight faggot at all.
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>>142731811
>She already looks older than 14-15

No, she doesn't
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>>142731820
Being in physical danger isn't the same as being emotionally immature. Freyja followed her dreams and called, defying her entire fucking planet and asserted herself when she faltered in episode 8 showing them to listen to her song.

Mirage cannot stand up the shadow of her family and seems joyless and unable to actually develop a spine, reflecting seriously what does she want to be. That's concerning.
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>>142731881

I wish this was a third rate anime that brought dead characters back to life. Maybe kaname can see him again in the wind at least. I'll be amazed if they kill anyone from walkure, pilots are expendable since they don't sing songs that make them money.
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>>142731891
Yes she does, she looks about Hayate's age which is 17 when she's serious/normal. Reina looks fairly younger than Freyja.
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>>142731811
>She already looks older than 14-15
No, she looks very much 14
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>>142731412
Not quite.

>I think that Hayate thinks that Someone's strong feelings can move other people this much when he see's the singleminded hard work of Freyja who wants to sing songs. Mirage is a comrade you can depend on. However, she does not have Freyja's "I want to be like this" but rather a hardheaded "I have to be like this!" point, and this worries him a little

Yes the grammar of what I wrote above is atrocious, but the meaning is pointing in the correct directions.
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>>142732197
Case point. Mirage is still immature.
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He's so cool
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>>142732307
They are all, really. But Mirage is pressuring herself to be something she's not, is his interpretation. I'm not thinking she'll go be a doctor, rather, find a reason to fly for herself. That'll be her major arc
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>>142732021
>she looks about Hayate's age which is 17 when she's serious/normal.

You are out of your mind if you think Freyja looks 17.
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He's doing the thing!
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>>142732402
>>142732479
KAWAMOE
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>>142721694
>>142721717
So have they ever established whether or not Mirage has fold receptors?

I get the feeling that by the end of the series she'll get forced out of the plane and need to sing.
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>>142732402
\X/
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>>142732777
Mirage said that she not have fold receptors.
>I get the feeling that by the end of the series she'll get forced out of the plane and need to sing.
May be she will sing in some joke scene but she not gonna be serious in singing for real.
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>>142732777
Pretty sure she said herself she does not
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>>142732777
It's established she doesn't. Chuck doesn't either. Personally, I feel a doctor route will be better because they need a cure for var instead of suppressing it with songs only. It's her only chance to be useful.
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>>142732447
Hayate doesn't look older than she is. They look around the same age.

Mirage looks like their mom.
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>>142732402
>>142732479
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>>142732435
I don't think she'll continue piloting. Her goal is already good "protect others", but she doesn't feel the piloting part and she's not skilled according to Kawamori. It feels she's only piloting because she's expected as a Jenius.
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So which one do you think Messer looks like, right or left? Can a laser cook the meat?
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What if Bogue dies
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>>142733328
There was so much blood.....
I would say raw meat.
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>>142733378
We know that fuckbois are safe. That's Delta platoon role to die.
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>>142733328
Over the line, mate.
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>>142733272
Yeah, she isn't capable of taking a life and is more interested in Walkure. Mirage is going to be a doctor.
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>>142733211
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Freyja obviously looks like a kid, while Hayate doesn't. That's what makes it likely he'll end up with Mirage, someone his age.
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>>142733797
Mirage is older than he is.
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>>142733797
>mirage
>his age

Top kek
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>>142733797
She doesn't look like a kid and he doesn't look older.
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>>142734007
>Freyja
>not looking like a kid
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>>142733898
>>142733950
Sheryl was also older than Alto.
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>>142733328

pls stop, kaname bullying is not okay
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>>142734374
Maybe she likes raw meat.
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>>142734007
They both look like kids actually, then again I consider teenagers of any age, kids.

They do like just right for each other though
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You can't do serious love and change the world by singing at the same time. Minmay couldn't, Basara wouldn't, and Ranka couldn't. Freyja shouldn't throw away her dream just to pursue young love.
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>>142734438

I know it's fun but this really has to stop.
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>>142734741
What about Sheryl?
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>>142734512
They're perfect paring. But I don't know if they're gonna end up together ;_;.
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>>142734204
>>142734512
They both look around the same age.

>>142734300
Yes, so? Sheryl and Alto looked around the same age, just like Hayate and Freyja. Mirage looks far too old, like she was in her 20s and Hayate looks like a teenager. Ranka looked like 10, despite being older than Freyja.
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>>142734741
Basara didn't give a fuck. Minmay didn't give a fuck either, it was just a distraction to her. Ranka wanted to and she got overwhelmed because Sheryl surpassed her in love and song. Mirage doesn't even know what the fuck she wants, she's in the same situation of Ranka and Minmay: immature girl who hasn't figured out what she has to do in life. The key of Minmay and Ranka losing wasn't because 'they are younger', but because they were unable to become mature by realizing their true call as the triangle proceeds. Sheryl and Misa both did, that's why they forced their loved interests to mature with them.

Hayate and Freyja have both been blooming and figuring things out through maturity together. Both are certain of what they want while Mirage only looks up them for guidance in a way.
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>>142734300
It's all about the designs. Sheryl and Alto looked as if both were in their early 20s, and Ranka was like 11, so even if Ranka was only a few months younger than Alto, she looked like a little girl.

This time, Hayate and Freyja designs look around the same age group even if he's years older than she is, they look around the same age while Mirage looks like the odd one out because she looks far older than either of them.
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We'll discover Mirage's father is part Chinese just to make her a bigger loser.
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Mirage will become more girly = quit fighting. Kawamori considers the pilot girls tomboys.
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