When did you become a sakugafag?
dat sakuga
gotta go fast
>>142551241
always been more of a narutofag desu
>>142551241
Top tier physics, boy.
Does this count?
>>142552002
>>142552137
Still better than your favorite scenes
>>142552258
Yeah, that's decent.
>>142552002
>>142552137
>dismissing good animation just because it comes from Naruto
>>142552647
>implying Naruto OPs doesn't have some of the best animation anime has to offer
>>142551241
When did you become a fag?
>>142551241
When I watched Keit-ai.
>>142552647
don't think it's particularly good especially considering that it's from an op
>>142552712
It's not Norio Matsumoto's best work in the series, but I think it's fine.
>>142552741
Norio's best bits from Naruto were definitely the penultimate fight of the rescue arc in my opinion.
>>142552692
mottainai
>>142552741
Well, when you start the series and you get this in your face it sure is memorable.
>>142552778
Which one was that? I can't remember.
Art direction > sakuga
>>142551241
WHAT DOES SAKUGA MEAN?
>>142552801
What show has great animation but poor art direction?
>>142552801
Yeah, it's a whole.
>>142552808
Drawings or something
>>142552795
I'm on my phone so I cant really link it, but sepecifically the brawl right after saucegay maxes out his eye powers.
The one where they were fighting above water.
>>142552808
It's what weebs call good animation
>>142552831
1st episode of Symphogear.
>>142552858
that's SASUGA you fucking idiot
>>142552845
That's episode 133. It sure was an amazing animation showcase, it's easily one of the best-animated TV episodes ever and is Norio's best work.
i became a sukagafag when i found fma
>>142551241
Anyone have gifs of really old Jap animation? Like the Disney-esk animations Toei did
>>142552808
gud animation
That 2% of the episode that's animated really well.
>>142552862
It had good animation?
>>142552912
That'd look so much better if it didn't had so many cuts in my opinion
>>142552914
It was basically the reason the rest of the season looked like shit.
>>142552889
Sasuga sakuga!
I wonder when and where that term/trend originated. I went in like in 2012 by seeing a Youtube video on a conference explaining it, and I thought I was late to the party about a common knowledge anime fans had for a while, but apparently the "sakuga" community (and terms, and circlejerking) was only around since a few month/years before that if I believe what I read.
Even if I guess that people had from a long time knowledge of the particularities of japanese animation, even without naming it specially.
>>142552902
was fma good in terms of animation, actually?
i cant remember, this just stuck out for me
>>142551241
Years ago, and I'm glad I did before it became a meme where people think it means "good animation" instead of what it actually fucking means.
>>142552808
>>142552977
I still refuse to believe that Musashi Gundoh exists as more than a handful of gifs and webms.
![[philosophy-raws][Samurai X：Trust&Betrayal][OVA][01][BDRIP][Hi10P FLAC][1440X1080].mkv_snapshot_26.49_[2015.12.08_07.46.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/R3WdNui.jpg "[philosophy-raws][Samurai X：Trust&Betrayal][OVA][01][BDRIP][Hi10P FLAC][1440X1080].mkv_snapshot_26.49_[2015.12.08_07.46.14].jpg")
>>142551241
When i watched Trust and Betrayal. The whole ova is a sakuga itself.
>>142552959
Anipages was the best English-language resource for Japanese animation in the 2000s, but I have no idea when people started using the term sakuga to refer to good animation.
>>142552969
Yeah but I don't know if that's related, there seem to be more and more aspiring animator willing to work on anime from around the world.
A bit like "I want to be mangaka" thing a while ago.
>>142552964
I dont remember much from 03 save for a couple of scenes and the OP, especually rewrite where they had the crazy sequence with the waterfall.
Brotherhood looked great throughout though. And IIRC, It was the first time Kameda actually got to do some good shit.
>>142552964
Yes, the show was rather well-animated.
All I need in life is well-animated swordfights, I tell ya. I can live on that alone.
>>142553020
Kameda did some good work at AIC before but his work on FMA was what really got him noticed.
G-Reco was a real pretty show. And then IBO went down as one of the worst looking and animated Gundam series.
>>142553006
Yeah it seems really well made and old, I have to read some of his articles in the future.
>>142553086
That's awesome.
Grimgar's budget completely fell apart because they made this fight, but damn was it worth it.
>>142553086
Tetsurou Araki's G-Reco episode sure had great action.
>>142553131
Grimgar had a scheduling problem, not budget.
>>142553064
>>142553020
I remember downloading the shitty FMA movie in the highest quality with my shitty third world internet just to see his stuff. Took almost 2 weeks, but it was fucking worth it.
>>142553175
I know. Time is money as far as animation is concerned.
Money itself isn't the problem, they threw like twenty animation directors at the last episode to try to make it work and it still looks pretty garbage.
>>142553131
That wasn't even that impressive to be honest.
>>142553131
That really lacks fluidity and verisimilitude.
>>142553175
Don't forget the script.
>>142552994
I plan on watching the whole thing and making webms of it
>>142553228
>>142553230
What's impressive about the fight was that they managed to have a full party fighting all at the same time while constantly doing things instead of everybody sitting back and taking turns while they stall for time to avoid animating as much as possible.
More impressive examples of animation were the first couple of goblin fights.
>>142553293
That's more the directing and planning rather than the animation itself I think.
Danmachi of all shows had an impressively long fight with that minotaur that only had one cutaway to people commenting on the fight, it was like a minute or two long.
>>142553384
There's no forced animation, only bad or good animation.
>>142553247
>I plan on watching the whole thing
I hope you know Japanese.
>>142553247
Godspeed my son. If you don't return alive what shall we tell your waifu?
I love sex with Sakura!
>>142551241
Uses camera movements to mask low framerate
>>142552258
The timing s bad
>>142552692
it looks good, but lacks any real animation tbqh
>>142552839
Wheres the animation?
>>142552902
Camera shake and explosions
>>142552905
>low framerate
>>142552912
Bad choreography
>>142552977
uh
>>142553050
camera shake, smears, debris, not as much anticipation for the dodges. characters feel floaty at times
>>142553086
that kick towards the end was too fast. Still pretty to look at
>>142553131
the beginning, when the big dude raised his club was good. Everything fell off after that
>>142553384
Thats fucking disgusting
>>142553866
>smears, debris
What's wrong with those?
>>142553707
ya who doesnt ;)
>>142553866
what are you into then
>>142553866
>Wheres the animation?
'twas in response to the "art direction" post. Also the good animation is everywhere and nowhere, there's a lot of care and detail in the depiction of nature, water, plants, wind, etc. Nothing too flashy though. It's good as it is.
>Uses camera movements to mask low framerate
Is that such a problem? Every anime has low drawing rate
>>142553384
>people complain about this one
You wouldn't recognize irony even if it took a shit on your head.
>>142553995
I didn't even read the subs. Funny.
>>142553866
Cool post
>>142553866
First day on /a/?
>>142553866
>>142553909
>>142553923
>>142553947
>>142554014
>>142554050
>>142554071
I think he wants to be the edgy bitch of animation threads. Not like the sales bitch wasn't enough.
I remember a while back someone posted a list of a bunch of animator's twitters, like, actual animators, not the twitter circlejerk.
Someone still got that?
>>142554090
Well that can be interesting if he can defend his point. I rarely come to the sakuga threads, what is usually discussed? Animation, or is it just a post your webm kind of thread?
![U7Ghu2s[1].webm](https://i.imgur.com/EBY7k90.jpg "U7Ghu2s[1].webm")
>>142553440
>>142553995
>>142554126
https://twitter.com/kraker2k/lists/animators/members
>>142554129
memes
>>142554129
>what is usually discussed?
Why Hyouka is the greatest anime; basically KyoAnifags being KyoAni fags.
>>142552692Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>142552692
Keit-ai the movie looks even better.
>>142554129
I've seen threads devolve into dumb studio wars multiple times starting with posts like that.
>>142554295
That's me, that's what I look like!
>>142553909
>What's wrong with those?
The smears didnt carry weight imo, maybe due to lack of anticipation. But the characters did pull back before they swung, so maybe im wrong. The debris was a cool feat, until I realized the two characters ran to the rock structure just to blow it up.
>>142553923
Charlie Chaplin the animation
>>142553947
>It's good as it is
I have to agree with that, as far as visuals go.
>Is that such a problem?
yes and no. No, because its a business, so its understandable, save money and put money in the right place. Yes, because its Naruto, it prints money, where did that money go? definitely not in the animation. Im guessing you were asking about the naruto camera pan, no?
>Every anime has low drawing rate
not all, but yes, most of them do
>>142554071
hopefully my last
>>142554090
You got me
These times I'm really into the "SD", chibi, kawaii, moe or whatever you call it kind of animation you can find in series such as Sailor Moon, Doremi, or more frequently in Doga Kobo shows lately, full of smears and all.
How would you call those kinda quirky, jerky cartoonish animations?
>>142554916
>Charlie Chaplin the animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7UBm-RcMI8
This?
>>142555115
Forced fun
>>142555115
https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/3b72adcd4db5b80d1dfc1f0fdbda01cd.webm
This kinda stuff you mean? They're just called smears.
And yeah, it's really great.
>>142555115
The Shaft-Monogatari Method.
90's had plenty of them
>>142552692
A friendly reminder that senpai noticed us.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/drazuli/archives/8433668.html
>>142555452
It's finds a way!
>>142552912
>>142552959
Sakuga is simply one complete cut of a scene or simply an animated scene. It can be either good or bad animation. Weeb's definition are so fucking retarded sometimes.
