>>142545978
0/0
>>142545978
The "I just got into hipster short animations" starter pack.
>>142545998
You're kidding. Watch Daicon IV right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-840keiiFDE
>>142545978
0/9 senpai desu.
>>142545978
nice poser taste
>>142546043
>The Orchestra went to my city a few weeks ago
>They played almost every good song by Electric Light Orchestra
>They didn't play Twilight
I was dissapointed but it was still a good concert
>>142546050
>>142546079
If you hate anime then why are you on /a/?
Wait hold on I just wanted to make fun of OP for having a hipster bullshit 3x3 of shorts (Tortov Roddle is dope tho) but how have some of you never seen Daicon IV? That's like not having seen DBZ or Cowboy Bebop or something.
>>142546141
Twilight isn't even the best song off of Time (that'd be Here is the News or Rain is Falling), but it's damn good.
>>142546197
>how have some of you never seen Daicon IV? That's like not having seen DBZ or Cowboy Bebop or something.
Not a fan of calling things autism, but this is straight up autism.
>>142546197
>hipster bullshit 3x3 of shorts
I never get how people can't comprehend these 3x3s are for shorts specifically. Just how people make 3x3s for just movies, series or one shots. Or maybe it's just the inflow of digibronies who are completely oblivious to how things go around here.
>>142546238
Yeah, those are kind of hard to compare since Daicon IV was actually influential and matters.
>>142546261
Yeah I know it's shorts, I'm just saying it's full of the hipsterist of hipstershit. Which, I mean, I'm totally fine with, I love that hipster shit too, but cmon.
>>142546197
>Tortov Roddle is dope tho)
This, I can't fault OP for liking that one.
Alright /a/ fucking wreck me.
>>142546432
"I don't want to seem too much like a snob but I do still really like these shows, I'll throw in a couple popular shows to show off that I'm well rounded and not a pretentious faggot"
That being said, I can't fault your choices. 7/9, but really? Re: Cutie Honey? The opening's almost the best part of it.
>>142546494
I was more trying to hit all of my favorite directors than anything else, and I think it's Imaishi's best work.
>>142546509
From an animation standpoint, maybe? I think Dead Leaves is a better showcase of his talent, personally. But I might be biased, I have an affinity for it.
>>142546367
Ok, now I don't even know what you're trying to say. Plus hipster is relative so I don't care. To most people anime is hipster in the first place and to most anime fans something like Tatami Galaxy would probably hipster. It's a meaningless term.
>>142546564
I think the simplicity of Re:Cutie Honey suits him well. He has a bad habit of letting the story start to bog him down some as things get really big, and this was just too previously set for that to happen. You're right, though, the OP probably is its best asset.
>>142546509
He only directed one of the episodes. Besides in terms of Imaishis:
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann > Kill la Kill > Luluco > Panty & Stocking > Dead Leaves > Sex & Violence > Oval & Over
>>142546619
Fair enough. I think that's why I like Dead Leaves so much, it doesn't have enough time to get too bogged down into the details, and I think really showcases his more manic side well.
>>142546661
Huh, you're right. I didn't realize Anno was the head on that. I still like it well enough to leave it on my list.
>>142546043
>anime godzirra pops up
no thanks
>>142546772
Get off /a/ now.
NGNL and meguca were good i guess
>>142546789
I'm of the opinion that NGNL is severely underrated by hipsters because it's a harem. Pretentious assholes ought to be talking about Ishizuka's color work in the show, which she consistently does well in pretty much everything she does. I wish she'd do something original instead of adapting light novels, and then we could get something like the last two episodes of Aoi Bungaku she did.
>>142546661
>Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann >
Ok that's not a bad "best" ch-
>Kill la Kill > Luluco > Panty & Stocking > Dead Leaves > Sex & Violence > Oval & Over
KLK I can see the appeal of even if I'm not big on it but holy shit, how is Luluco better than Panty & Stocking & Dead Leaves? They don't even have any faith in the original characters so they have to cross the show over with other stuff to desperately try and make it interesting.
>>142546367
So what shorts did you want to see on his list instead?
>>142546494
RE:CH even at its worst is better than Fujiko at its worst and RE:CH at its best is so much better than Fujiko at its best it's insane
>>142546824
I liked the pretty colors too.
>>142546861
>namefags
>>142546824
What emotion are NGNL's colors even trying to get across? What is their purpose?
>>142546883
Okay I'll take the name off, now explain how Luluco is better
>>142546937
I'm not that anon, I just hate namefags
>>142546909
It looks dreamy and saturated. Colors don't get across emotions, they get across aesthetic, which elicits emotions.
Get your shit together anon.NGNL is still a pretty mediocre show
>>142546909
It actively defies color harmony most of the time, which creates a feeling of alien whimsy. It's exciting to watch, and is often used pretty effectively to keep your eyes where they're supposed to be.
>>142546958
>Colors don't get across emotions, they get across aesthetic, which elicits emotions.
Hahahahahahaa
>It looks dreamy
Man you must have some ugly-ass dreams
>>142546958
Come on, it's better than mediocre. It's not a masterpiece, but it's a good show and a fun ride mixed with some A grade direction.
>>142547013
see
>>142546993
>he thinks color is used to express emotion in actual art
Oh god im laughing
>>142546043
So is this that vaporwave crap?
What do you think of this 3x3?
>>142547061
4/6
Clannad is a mediocre anime but one of the great VNs.
>>142547061
8/9 Top tier taste anon
>>142546772
>>142547059
This is just sad. People watch one of the most important anime of the 80s without which probably several of your favorite anime wouldn't have been made and which stands as a love letter to all of nerd culture which defines your interests, but the answer they have for it are shitty memes. I hope one day those people will at least feel uncomfortable every time they remember their initial, idiotic reaction.
>>142547064
The Ashita no Joe anime is much better than the manga as far as I'm concerned. I guess some people could consider it too slow, but to me the slow pacing is absolutely perfect for what it is. Visually there's no competition.
>>142546432
3/4
>>142547061
6/6
>>142547151
>one of the most important anime of the 80s without which probably several of your favorite anime wouldn't have been made
>Daicon IV
Are you being fucking serious right now?
>>142547151
It's just a bunch of references, without any more meaning.
>>142547247
Daicon iii and iv if you have to be autistic about it.
>>142547268
MAL-tier opinion
I fucking hate "references = content" as much as you do but if you can't see the brilliance of that short I dunno what to say
>>142547268
Yeah and without that bunch of references Gainax would never exist and without Gainax - Eva wouldn't exist. Without Eva most original anime series post 1995 would never exist.
>>142547316
I actually don't care about Eva, but even supposing I did, that Gainax went on to have a positive effect doesn't make that short brilliant.
>>142547287
There's literally nothing more to it. You can call it a love letter, I suppose, but it's not like it says anything about them, it just calls them out for existing.
>>142547064
Have you seen Baby Steps? If not I know you'd really like it.
>>142545978
2/4
>>142547061
4/6
>>142547228
2/2
>>142547411
4/6
>>142547228
4/5
>>142547347
>I actually don't care about Eva
Do you care about any adult-oriented or original anime series post-95?
>>142547457
You're going to have to explain to me how Eva is singlehandedly responsible for literally all anime made after it.
>>142546432
6/7 aesthetics
>>142547061
4/6 barakamon is such a underrated gem
>>142547228
8/8 bretty gud
>>142547411
one AOTS/10
>>142547467
dude eva invented being sad okay? how many anime have you watched where people are sad? eva is responsible for those dude
>>142547467
This is why people dislike newfags. We're not supposed to explain this shit to you, you're supposed to know it by the time you start posting here. Just read about the situation of anime in the late 80s and the financial bubble. I'm not here to give you a lecture, because you're too lazy to google.
>>142547484
kek
>>142547347
>doesn't make that short brilliant.
What makes it brilliant on it own is that it has some of the best animation out there with creative choreography and direction which surpass most anime series ever made with their static, panning shots and flapping mouths. All made by 12 guys in a basement out of which most had barely any experience in anime production.
>>142547476
4.5/5 - mixed feelings about Darker Than Black.
>>142547411
3/3 - Why is middle-left not shown during her fatty phase?
>>142547228
3/3
>>142547061
4/4
>>142547534
Ah yes, the "idk just google it" response.
Look, I get what you're saying to an extent. It had a big influence on anime, especially on adult serials, but that's not a unique quality. Honestly, it seems like it deserves just as much criticism for the exacerbation of otaku culture as it does praise for its positive impact anime.
>>142547565
Cool, it's a well animated bunch of references.
>>142547287
>>142547347
Once again, MAL-tier media criticism. You sound like someone who consumes media in the most literal and boring way possible.
But ok, I guess you'll just call me a hipster faggot and assume I'm praising it solely because of its fame, so here's my personal reasoning:
First of all, it's a goddamn geek convention intro. Of fucking course it's not gonna be a deep multi-layered narrative. Your comments sound MAL-like to me because they remind me of people being dismissive of shorts because they can't have much in the way of deep writing. No one knows how to talk about them because they can only describe the most easily-literalized aspects of a work of animation.
The short would be pretty good even if it was JUST "references", simply because it's extremely fucking honest and ambitious. It doesn't feel pandery or cheap but like there's a genuinely huge love and passion for most of the stuff featured. The way it's all executed makes for a really memorable viewing. From the fantastically-done action at 3:45 to the silly minimalist chibi-ish stuff at 4:25 every shot feels well thought-out. To be totally fair, the animation at 3:10 is really technically wonky and sticks out pretty badly compared to the rest.
But then you get to 4:30 and THAT is what cements this as an absolute classic. The nuke -> rebirth sequence takes it to a whole other level and brings into it a kind of emotion that wasn't really NEEDED for a mere convention introduction animation, but is what makes it transcend what it was supposed to be. The animation, the composition, the color use, the way it's all synced to the music, it's all so fantastically done that if you don't feel anything while watching it I honestly can't help you.
>>142547649
Are we being digibro'd?
>>142545978
0/0 and if you love artsy short films it's really weird that you don't have at least one of Furiko or Tsumiki no Ie.
>>142546432
3/4 because I can't get into Gen Urobuchi's writing. Still ambivalent about Paranoia Agent in regard to how much sense the plot twist made in retrospect. NGNL was good dumb fun.
>>142547061
2.5/3 I want to like monogatari and do at times, but it just doesn't really hook me in.
>>142547064
0/0, 3/4, not an Ippo fan, and yet to watch Aria.
>>142547228
3.5/4 and I'm feeling really stupid for not recognising the top middle because I'm pretty sure I've seen it.
>>142547411
3/4 One Outs feels like too unrealistic of a setting for a psychological series for me to be taken in by it. The scene where he tricks a guy by pitching the ball to the exact place he claimed he was going to three times in a row felt like it was taking the piss.
>>142531619
>What show is the one that looks like Akagi's?
Kaiji
>>142547476
3/3 still watching Casshern.
>>142547586
5/7 Couldn't enjoy WttNHK because it was too depressing and couldn't enjoy SaW because she had no nipples.
>>142547649
I fully admit, I still don't see what's so exciting about it. It's on the level of a really high budget ad, which is impressive for the small team, but it's not viscerally exciting to me. It doesn't do anything other than say, hey, we like these things and we know you like these things, so let's celebrate them together! Which is fine, but a lot more compelling if you're a part of this culture, I'm sure.
>>142547614
see
>>142547649
also
>creative choreography and direction
These things contribute to making it an effective emotional journey. It's not just that it's "well animated"; technical artistic quality means nothing on its own. If it really did all the "muh Loomis" jerk-offs on /ic/ would be successful artists and not a bunch of boring, cynical shitposting nobodies. It's all about what it makes the viewer feel.
If you really didn't take away anything from it, then I'm curious what you consider some amazing audiovisually impacting anime scenes.
>>142547722
IV was a pop culture mess, III is the real masterpiece.
>>142547722
The first ending of Madoka Rebellion, when Homura is throwing away everything to stop the Incubators. Call me a ruseman if you like, it was a beautiful scene.
Hi, I'm bad taste.
Feeling lazy af today, so I'm just going to rate one person. I aint sorry.
>>142547710
6.5/7
>>142547714
>It doesn't do anything other than say, hey, we like these things and we know you like these things, so let's celebrate them together!
Except that you're missing the greater picture.
The nuke symbolism was completely intentional; the sequence was animated by Anno, who is probably Gainax's most political and nationalistic figure. It's not just "here's some shit we like", it's about having a true passion for creative works and the healing power that it can bring, and it's executed wonderfully.
Once again:
>If you really didn't take away anything from it, then I'm curious what you consider some amazing audiovisually impacting anime scenes.
>>142547682I'm pretty sure Digibro has been reading my posts here since at least 2007.
>>142546043
This has a very "Gainax" feel to it. The animation was amazing throughout. The explosion stood out the most by far as the high point of animation quality. There's a ton of love in this short, and I can understand why you'd have it in your 3x3, I just don't personally agree.
>>142547834
I think you're finding more in it than is there, just like everyone does with everything Anno makes.
>>142547763
I hate to join the others in using this term but holy shit you are a colossal hipster faggot
>>142547792
I know nothing about Madoka; link it.
Guess how many dicks I can suck edition.
>>142547586
3/3
>>142547710
1/2. P&S's humor bored me after a few eps, props on the animation tho.
>>142547763
The scene in which we see the girl gliding through the domains of fantasy, sci-fi and comic books and then crossing into japanese media with anime and tokusatsu speaks otherwise. Top that off with the last touchin scene where we see all the characters together symbolizing nerd unity.
>>142547887
>knows an obsessive amount about pre-2000 gainax
>knows nothing about madoka
I've heard about your kind, and it's a strange kind of honor to talk with you. But sure, let me see if I can find that scene somewhere.
>>142547906
And I just realised the irony of criticising P&S's jokes after uploading a 3x3 that may as well belong to a middle schooler.
>>142547860
Anno didn't really "make" this, it was a group effort. But it's blatantly clear that the nuke symbolism and the "rebirth" stuff is intentional and it feels like you're trying really hard to be contrarian for the sake of it.
I think Eva fans are cancer and read far too much into it, but Eva is also full of scenes that were good for a very similar reason. The Komm Susser Tod sequence is amazing in a way that is easily comparable to the Daicon IV sequence.
People who think Eva was good because of writing are blithering retards.
>>142547849
Which response was yours?
>>142547887
>>142547910
>muh references
>muh trees
>muh bomb
>muh songs with words
>muh influence
>>142547912
Looks like I'll have to upload it myself. Have a fight from the movie in the meantime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4clXg9n-U
>>142547906
dmc was pretty allright
>>142547957
Eva had both great narrative and visual direction. It's the combination of those that makes it a masterpiece.
>>142547970
Oh I haven't made a 3x3 in a few years. I could find my old one but I know most shows on there will not be on a new one I'd make if that's what your asking.
>>142547988
I imagine it's the only upload on youtube but I'm sick of everyone thinking 60fps is good on animation.
>>142547906
5.5/7 I still have Parasyte on hold for now, roughly 5 eps in. Might change my mind about it if I pick it up again. Watching Watamote is painful, partially because the MC is such an incredibly loveable character.
>P&S's humor bored me after a few eps
I found it to be the other way around. The first episode of P&S was underwhelming, but then each subsequent episode seemed to lift the bar not just in terms of comedy but also in terms of thematic depth. By the time it's near the end of the season you've gone from mere poop jokes all the way to an elaborate and subtle political commentary which symbolically depicts the ideological downfall of western civilisation as it breaks away from its traditional roots - something the infamous Gainax ending actually fits in perfectly with. Also it's one of the few English dubs in existence that manages to be superior to the Japanese one (at least in my opinion).
>>142547614
>Look, I get what you're saying to an extent. It had a big influence on anime, especially on adult serials, but that's not a unique quality. Honestly, it seems like it deserves just as much criticism for the exacerbation of otaku culture as it does praise for its positive impact anime.
Your misguided assumptions arę useless. It would really not be that hard to Google.
>>142548091
If you love google so much then why don't you go browse it fagmaster
>>142548024
No, I mean you said we disagreed. But I don't know on what.
>>142548074
>an elaborate and subtle political commentary which symbolically depicts the ideological downfall of western civilisation as it breaks away from its traditional roots
Is this a joke or something? Jesus...
>>142548119
Oh, I mean with putting Daicon IV on your 3x3 as I assumed you were OP.
>>142548126
Gainaxfag who can't accept they're dead.
>>142547957
The writing part references the plot right? Cause the characters are literally perfect.
>>142547957
>People who think Eva was good because of writing are blithering retards.
It was though, at least in a sense. Part of what made Eva so good was how it was written in a way that did not give a single fuck about the audience: an example being the giant middle finger given to Asuka-shippers at the beginning of EoE.
It's refreshing to have a series that goes out of its way to NOT pander to the audience but instead tell its own story on its own terms.
>>142545978
2/9, the rest are 2obscure4me
>>142548146
I admit it was a good joke though. Hehehe
>>142548012
Something can have great narrative and horrible writing.
See: a lot of Osamu Tezuka's work.
>>142547912
I'm not an "older is better" type at all, it's just that everything I've seen & read of and about Madoka online didn't grab me enough to want to watch it.
In fact, here is my 3x3. I generally prefer Post-2000s.
>>142548152
see
>>142548185
I think of writing and plot as two totally different things. A character can have poorly written dialogue but still be interesting.
>>142548185
What would you say the difference between narrative and writing is? My only thought is narrative is the overall ideas, while the writing is the actual words to convey the ideas.
>>142547906
5/8 shit.
>>142547824
5/6 acceptable.
>>142547820
3/6 not very good.
>>142547710
6/9 shameful.
>>142547586
7/9 boring.
>>142547476
7.5/8 decent taste, shit aesthetics.
>>142547411
7/8 decent.
>>142547228
3.5/8 pretty bad.
>>142547061
4/8 bad.
>>142546432
7/9 the light novel shit sticks out like a sore thumb.
>>142545978
9/9 pretty good.
>>142548126
>>142548146
>>142548170
>Is this a joke or something?
Nope! I'm being dead serious. Part of why people don't see these things is because they never expect to find them in a comedy which sells itself on its crude humour.Panty and Stocking are two female archetypes that have broken away from traditional femininity in different ways. One is a slut and the other is a greedy pig. Garterbelt represents the old rules and traditions which the western man tries to guide western women with. Red is used to represent communistic principles and the message of the twist ending is that even after facing off against their enemies and never succumbing to them, all it took to destroy the modern western woman was an ideological stab in the back from other slothful and envious western women.
>>142548185
Eva had good writing, so I don't see why you felt the need to point that out.
penetrate me fampai
>>142547061
5/7
>>142547228
4/5
>>142547586
2/2
>>142547710
3/3
>>142548153
Once again, when I say "writing" I don't mean plot.
The "fuck you" aspect of Eva was mainly about Anno's frustration with modern anime getting too autistic; he preferred older works that made some kind of a statement about the real world and whose universe was flawed vs. offering a perfect magical world to escape to. But Eva wasn't really revolutionary in that aspect as much as just bringing back the spirit of older anime and manga.
Funnily enough things only got infinitely more autistic since than and Anno embraced it. Dude loved Strike Witches when it aired.
>>142548221
Yeah, exactly that.
>>142548211
>>142548221
What purpose does making that distinction really serve? Plot holes can exist in narratives specifically because of bad writing, not from lack of internal consistency in the narrative itself.
>>142548296
5/6
>>142548276
I really want to think you're joking but you sound like a seriousposter who probably uses TVTropes or some other really lame site like that.
For the record I'm >>142548185 and I think Panty & Stocking is amazing but Jesus Christ it really is just silly pointless fun. People who say that stuff about Gurren Lagann are wrong but Panty & Stocking was great because it was just the staff having a ton of honest fun making the silly ridiculous comedy that they wanted to make. I'm extremely glad it never got serious.
The ending was a joke about people's huge butthurt over Gurren Lagann's ending.
>>142548276
Blah, blah, blah. The comedy was meh and vulgar and it bored me, cheap fanservice for males and only males. A curious and unique art style, I give you that. Nothing more.
>>142548388
Because it helps.
Writing to me is just the use of words. Honestly I think Tezuka is a much better example of contrast between bad writing vs. good storytelling so I'll keep using that instead of Eva.
Stuff like Astro Boy and Phoenix can have really awkward writing. Characters will illogically start giving out exposition, they'll redundantly narrate everything, etc. But the actual content and ideas of the stories are fun and the characters and their motivations are engaging.
>>142547988
Took me long enough, but here's the sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxyWbMlWa0c
>>142548474
The art style was actually the biggest problem with Panty & Stocking. It was good, but the Genndy Tartakovsky-ish flatness of the designs did not mesh with the huge focus that Imaishi & co put on perspective in their work. You can tell that in more three-dimensional scenes the animators have no idea what to do with the characters' hands, for example.
It was a really, really well-directed show. The way everything was shot and framed and edited and colored and synced to the music was extremely well thought out and made the experience super stylish and fun. Something like Luluco just feels like cheap-ass "wacky Imaishi" autopilot in comparison.
>>142548145
I was. What I mean is, which one of those was your comment:
>>142545998
>>142546014
>>142548410
>you sound like a seriousposter who probably uses TVTropes or some other really lame site like that.
I don't, but there's nothing wrong with posting ideas seriously once in a while.
>I think Panty & Stocking is amazing but Jesus Christ it really is just silly pointless fun.
Which is testament to how good it is: it functions perfectly on a shallow level too and never forces you to think about it too heavily. I really liked FLCL for achieving that same goal of being a fun series on the surface too. I'd still rate P&S pretty highly even as dumb fun, fwiw.
All of that doesn't mean that the symbols and themes in question aren't clearly there. Everything I wrote is perfectly consistent with what was presented in the series itself.
>>142548497
Eva has both good writing and storytelling. The former especially compared to most anime which tends to be do over-expository.
>>142548576
Neither, I can totally see why you'd have it in your 3x3.
>>142548506
I'm not a big fan of that sequence because it often looks way too flat for my taste. I guess you could say "well it's Gekidan Inu Curry paper stuff so of course it's flat" but... nah. Look at this for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-gOoo2drVQ
I think that kind of cinematography would've benefitted a climax like that far more. It has a paper doll aesthetic but it's cinematic as fuck.
>>142548694
What country you in mate, cuz I can't see it in mine.
And I think flat is good, actually, for the witch aesthetic. They're no longer human beings with thoughts and dreams, they're two-dimensional echoes of despair.
>>142545978
"I like a commercial"/10
>>142548582
The staff were extremely open about what Panty & Stocking was meant to be. They did weekly staff streams where they watched the newest episode and commentated over it, they did plenty of interviews, etc. Making specific moments of characterization earnestly charming, like the part where Panty shows legitimate concern for Stocking in the episode where the latter falls for the ghost, or the Panty & Brief romance episode where they had female animators draw their expressions to make it feel more honestly girly, is as "serious" as it ever got.
FLCL has a huge director's commentary where they talk about the themes and symbolism a ton. Kazuki Nakashima talked on length about the allegorical elements of Gurren Lagann and how it's a story about human evolution. With Panty & Stocking though you really are reading far too much into it.
>>142548773
Romania.
I dunno, shots like this just bore the shit out of me. It's not totally flat as there is a clear sense of perspective but it's not done as interestingly as in that music video I linked.
I could see it being a directorial choice but it's not one that works for me at all.
>>142548883
I also think it adds to the scenes as it allows for contrast. The witches are always flat, and, in that scene in particular, it adds to Homura's transformation, as everything slowly starts losing its perspective. If it bores you, I get it, some things are just taste, but I think it's a really good directorial choice.
>>142548810
>With Panty & Stocking though you really are reading far too much into it.
I'm only reading far too much into it if I'm seeing things that don't exist. I still claim to not be.
The author's intentions aren't the final product, and if the final product only incidentally ends up being a launching pad for intriguing thought/discussion because of some symbolism that happened to line up with external patterns by sheer good fortune, then that doesn't diminish the product's capacity to achieve the goal of being that launching pad.
Just like ironic shitposting is still shitposting, accidental brilliance is still brilliance.
>>142548185
Sauce on dino
>>142548808
So liking Gundam or Macross must be bad as well.
>>142545978
0/1
>>142546432
2/7
>>142547061
5/7
>>142547064
4/6 (only for the right one)
>>142547228
5/7
>>142547411
5/8
>>142547476
4/7
>>142547586
7/9
>>142547710
4/8
>>142547820
1/2
>>142547824
2/2
>>142547906
1/7
>>142548185
2/2
>>142548222
7/7
>>142548296
5/9
I feel like i haven't seen that many shows but none of the shows I haven't seen look even remotely interesting or appealing
>>142549059
Omae Umasou da na. Very cute movie.
>>142548970
Come to think of it, I don't know if flatness is really the deal-breaker there as much as those just being some of the least interesting Inu Curry visuals I've seen in general. The color choices feel arbitrary and in terms of aesthetics there's nothing super-interesting that pops out aside from 2:55.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYmYVJ4NWB4 This is just about equally flat and I like it much more. The different materials used give everything a great crazy varied feeling, it's full of bizarre interesting unique designs, and the colors come together to create a bizarre and crazy but at the same time isolated and dark atmosphere.
Everything is also consistently flat; unlike that Sakamoto music video there are no "epic sakuga" moments and it maintains a more consistent paper doll aesthetic. But the flatness is used wonderfully.
>>142548296
7/7
>>142549089
6/7
>>142549059
>>142549179
I dunno if "cute" is the main word I'd use to describe it. I was expecting it to be a super-simple kodomo anime with some good animation and designs but I was extremely surprised by how emotionally intense it was, and constantly so (instead of some "starts off cute BUT THEN GETS DARK!!!!" thing).
It felt more like a really well-done shonen anime than a kodomo one and I can't really see a toddler getting the full experience at all. Though I suspect it was meant to be more of a family film that's appealing to everyone.
>>142549302
I thought "man this guy must really like 3x3 Eyes" but then it hit me and I laughed
This is what you've all been waiting for.
>>142549505
hello cuppy
>>142549659
Don't call me by my slave name.
I'm a mangababy and barely read it; I haven't even properly caught up with the two big shonen series here. I just listed stuff that emotionally impacted me over the years.
But rate me anyway.
>>142549860
Cool stuff man. I have never read the Lupin manga.
I imagine it's great
>>142549896
It's my favorite Lupin media, everything I like about the anime stuff and none of the stuff I dislike.
>>142549924
You ever read Crying Freeman? If not you should flip through the first few pages now. It's instantly compelling.
>>142549965
I'll be totally honest; I want to get into Kazuo Koike's work, but Crying Freeman isn't really a priority to me since the artwork bores me from what I've seen. I'll likely read Lone Wolf & Cub and some of his wacky campy stuff first.
>>142549969
I just picked up Palepoli TODAY and it's the first 4-panel manga that made me laugh out loud. It's almost like a Japanese Perry Bible Fellowship.
>>142549965
It's instantly compelling because it went with the concept of a crying assassin for a hot minute. Then you keep reading and realize it's complete shit, but you end up finishing it just because of how absurd it is and you want to solve the mystery of why he gets naked so often.
>>142550104
though to be fair that one feels a little too 'lolsorandomxD' without this to go with it
>>142548222
What are your thoughts on the second half and ending of Kaiba?
>>142550761
Loved it. They threw a lot of different stuff into the pot but I thought it worked in the end.
>>142550761
I'm not the same guy but Kaiba is consistently boring and I don't get why people say the first half is great
It's one of the best art styles in any Yuasa thing but his most boring show
>>142550833
What did you like about the series overall?
Not baiting here by the way, I love the series myself and I'm always interested in hearing other people's opinions especially since lots of people feel dissapointed by its ending so they usually prefer Tatami or Mind Game.
>>142550861
To me in terms of pure entertainment it probably ranks second or third among all anime I've seen. I always get so immersed that I had to rewatch a few times to evaluate it more properly.
>>142550884
Not the guy you're talking to, but Mind Game is my favorite Yuasa thing ever and I suspect those who go "yawn, what's the point, [Yuasa thing with more plot] is clearly better" at it are the kind of MAL-tier people who have no idea what to say about shorts
>>142547061
4/4
>>142547476
2/3 +/- Baccano, NGE
>>142548296
3/4 +/- Baccano, NGE
Nothing else had more than 2
>>142550884
From what I've gathered people often seem to think it becomes a huge mess towards the end. Just from a narrative standpoint it fooled around with a lot of different things, but the biggest one seems to be how the protagonist's internal world literally blends with the rest of the fictional world. It's a pretty ambitious concept to throw in and I thought it was established nicely prior to all the shit going down towards the end. I also enjoyed the contrast between the personal and the global, or rather universal, not just with Kaiba/Warp but also with the rest of the characters. All the little personal things like loneliness, innocence, envy, petty struggles and political backstabbing played out spectacularly in the end as they clashed in a scenario on a more grand, universal scale.
>>142551162
Other than this of course, the show immediately strikes you with its aesthetics and compelling tonal choices that go for both playfully imaginative and solemnly romantic at the same time. Its amazing how seamlessly they blend and how they help deliver emotionally powerful scenes throughout the show.
>>142549213
Which is the first one? Good taste btw.
>>142551288
Thanks YIFY.
>>142551320
Sorry about that. I found out the bitrate was shit.
Posting this, because I'm testing if it will work.Also because I'm a degenerate.
>>142546043
Very nostalgic. Saw this like 5 years ago. And it still has the same feeling to it. Really proves that it has not dated all too much.
>>142547476
Reminds me of my high school days. Although haven't seen the original Gundam yet.
>>142547820
It's okay. Just lurk more.
>>142547824
Always liked yours.
>>142548222
Same with the anon above.
>>142550861
I honestly can't get through it although I've tried several times. I can see why other people like it, but I have a strong preference for dialogue heavy shows the lack of it just bores me to tears, especially because I don't care for sci fi.
>>142551393
It really depends who you are. You probably like anime/tv/movies that are primarily dialogue heavy. Which is fine. I'm not that anon, but I like both minimal shows like Kaiba or Angel's Egg. Then there's like LoGH or Tatami Galaxy which are shows that rely heavily on dialogue.
>>142551393
Kaiba is not really scifi at its core. It uses its superficial memory swapping concept for purposes completely different from technological speculation. But you don't seem like a person willing to broaden their horizons so I guess it doesn't really matter anyway.
>>142551469
Also this. Kaiba was never really Sci-Fi. It is more of a romance mystery if anything.
>>142551393
I love stuff without dialogue (see pic), it's just that Kaiba's atmosphere and ideas didn't grab me at all. I actually thought Casshern Sins of all things did the whole episodic wanderer thing better.
I dunno if I'd want Yuasa to repeat an art style, but it would be cool if he used the Tezuka-esque look for something that appealed to me more.
>>142551469
I said I tried it multiple times and attributed my dislike to personal taste, how much 'broader' do my horizons need to be? Do I have to like everything you like?
>>142551496
For me personally. I preferred Kaiba over Casshern, because since Casshern was 2 cour it falters after episode 12 and then picks itself up at like episode 20. But that's just me.
>>142550861
>Kaiba is consistently boring and I don't get why people say the first half is great
Kaiba is a series with a world that is more dark and more disturbing the more you think about it. When you realise that the goofy aesthetic is there to intentionally keep you from connecting to the characters too much and becoming too depressed by their situation, you start to realise its strength as a series.
iirc Episode 5 was my favourite episode.
>>142551578
No, it's fine. You've found your comfortable niche and you're perfectly happy just staying inside it. I'm more of an adventurer type.
>>142550861
>I'm not the same guy but Kaiba is consistently boring and I don't get why people say the first half is great
It's the worldbuilding. The worldbuilding in the first few episodes is excellent.
>>142551593
I wasn't judging Casshern as a whole but simply saying that I think its episodic stuff worked better
>>142551357
I'm glad you finally played Earthbound and decided to remove Memetale from your mosaic. It's a good game, but it gets way, WAY more credit than it deserves.
Dn't like how you're mixing comics and manga, you should make separate mosaics. Also the image looks ugly because it's so unbalanced, I hope you'll fill out the remaining squares so that it becomes a 9x9.
The idea of everything being animated isn't bad, but it's really fucking distracting, plus I can't even recognize mid left in the comics/manga mosaic. Also what's mid right in the same mosaic?
Actually wasting my time to make a 3x3 of the top 9 next.
>>142554918
Why have you subjected yourself to so much crap? Do you just watch everything?
>>142555081
The diagonal edges are just the worst of the seasonal garbage I watched over the years. Kowabon was shitty jump scares. And the other entries raped some of my most beloved franchises, so of course I had to watch them.
>>142555231
Makes sense. What's the top rightso I can avoid it?
>>142554835
>I can't even recognize mid left in the comics/manga mosaic. Also what's mid right in the same mosaic?
Those two are some of the most iconic graphic novels ever made.Mid-Left is Y-The Last Man and Mid-Right is Watchmen.Also I already planned on making it a 9x9. Manga and Comics are going to be separated once I am confident enough to know I have read enough to justify putting them on there. Right now I'm unsure. The last spot is reserved for TV Shows/Mini-Series. I'm right now watching a lot of interesting TV-Shows because I kinda ran out of games, films, and anime to watch right now. I am finishing up K-ON, but I keep on gravitating to the mini-series, Dekalog. I'll get back to it eventually though.
>>142555479
Why is it all a spoiler? I didn't mean that to happen.
>>142555479
I've read Watchmen, weird that I didn't recognize it. Y - The Last Man is in my backlog.
Can't wait to see your full 9x9.
Also it would be cool if you made a static version of the image too, as I said - the animations are distracting.
Haibane Renmei is a snobbery show.
Haibane Fun is snob.
>>142555526
I'll make both since making static images are easy in PS. I'll make a static version tonight. I may add another 3x3 to it which would be the TV/Mini Series one.
>>142555465
Hidan no Aria. The series was barely tolerable thanks to gg's subs.The shot doesn't show it well, but the girl just stripped out of her school uniform to use it as a parachute.
>>142555588
>Haibane Renmei is a snobbery show.
What are you trying to say, ESL-kun?
>>142547586
Haibane renmei is following Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World what is written by Haruki Murakami, so Haibane is a snobbery show and becames an ugly show.
>>142555685
>the girl just (spoiler)
You have got to be shitting me.
>>142555723
Haibane Renmei has no end and an ugly story.
>>142555526
Beware, Y - The Last Man kinda pushes a left-wing opinion on you a bit at the start. Later on it eases on itself and kinda opens up an intriguing idea that may sound very stupid at first, because the whole idea of the comic is borderline dumb, but interesting when done right. For example, the synopsis of the series is literally a harem anime. I kid you not.
And also on Earthbound being credited too highly. I have not played Mother 3 or Lisa yet so I am withholding my thoughts on these types of games right now. All I know is that Undertale borrowed too much from Earthbound. And it gets to the point that Undertale kinda undermined the idea of Earthbound in a lot of places. And it barely improves on the aspects that it clearly throwbacks to. The only reason it was on my list is because of my initial impression of my first time playing these games that are directly inspired by Mother.
>>142547064
>RRR
Fuck yes. I love that series. It's such a cliche filled mess, but it's delivered so fucking well.
>>142555849
>Haibane Renmei has no end
It had a conclusion which consisted of characters reaching a sense of understanding and learning to forgive themselves. As a plot-centric isekai story it's inconclusive, but it's a character-based drama, so that conclusion works perfectly well. I loved the final episode.
>and an ugly story
There were some dark themes and drama which came out of nowhere, but I wouldn't call it an 'ugly story' because of that (not least of which because 'ugly story' isn't really a coherent criticism). Ugly in what way?
>>142555901
I mean, one good example is the whole idea of Itoi saying that his philosophy in games is to literally make to stop playing games and go outside. Where as Undertale tries to copy this by the ending in which you leave the underground, but the game makes it feel like you gathered friends and makes you not want to leave. Which is corny and manipulative. And it explains why a lot of people want to make fanart and fanfiction about the game, because they don't want to admit that they are not real people.
>>142549213
Top center please? I have no idea what it is.
>>142547061
Why are people rating this so good? 2/5.7
heyy
>>142556383
Are are at least 4 good-ish series on there if I pretend the Code Geass entry only refers to season 1.
>>142556383
Bebop, Geass, Steins;Gate and Bakemonogatari are all pretty safe choices, and the rest of them aren't the sort of shows you would get tricked into watching if you weren't interested in them.
>>142556547
>Bakemonogatari
Did you mean Barakamon?
>>142555231
Bruh, NouCome is good shit.
>>142556722
Forced humor of the worst kind.
>>142555993
> it's a character-based drama
it’s wwwwwwwww only wwww MOE. wwwww NO drama wwwwwww
>>142556811
You need to watch it past episode 5. Only the first arc is SOL.
>>142551357
I see you finished The Maxx. I'm still suprised something like that even exists in western animation.
>>142556861
It's an odd one indeed, because it was published by MTV and somehow got greenlit. It is a really rare oddity in the mass of child comedies and toy tie ins.
>>142556960
You should also check out Aeon Flux,Spawn and Downtown if you want some more adult-oriented series that aren't as comedy focused. Downtown more so, but essentially it's more of an animated slice of life about people living in sub-urban New York.
>>142548694
This short is so gorgeous, anyone know it's available anywhere in higher resolution?
>>142557039
I'll check em out.
>>142556383
Shigatsu is the only bad one there, shitlord.
>>142547061
>>142556383
I'm Webm-kun and I don't get the hype as well.
3.5/8
The only good ones are Bakemonogatari, Barakamon, Gurren Lagann, and Steins;Gate sorta.
>>142557821
>I'm Webm-kun
Who? The shitty weeaboo with Essential bullshit chart?
>>142558035
Why do I have to follow your shitty example of being a contrarian? I don't give a shit if my chart is anything this board represents as its /a/-core.
>>142548222
>6/9 shameful.
Nice trips, and thanks, I think. Better to be considered shameful than boring!
Top animes
>>142558136
Elfen Lied and Code Geass make it kind of boring, but some of the other ones contrast that.
>>142558090
I took it more in the vein that he was making fun of you for feeling like stating you name meant anything.
>>142558509
>Elfen Lied
>makes it kind of boring
I thought that was a controversial pick if anything, not a boring one. I guess it probably used to show up in a lot of newbie 3x3 mosaics.
I know Code Geass is a boring pick, but I love its political commentary and scopeand Ninaso I can't not include it.
>>142558509
Elfen Lied is what makes it shameful. Although the rest of the choices and the aesthetics do make it kind of boring as well.
>>142558550
Sorry, I'm still pissy about that chart that Digi made which was clearly considered as /a/-core in his mind.
>>142558777
>>142558776
Controversial? Elfen Lied is one of the most popular anime out there, just go to any convention or manga store. They always sell tons of Elfen Lied content. I almost never see shit related to something like Panty and Stocking and much less Lain. Most of my friends who aren't even into anime have heard or seen Elfen Lied because of the opening sequence.
>>142558777
>Elfen Lied is what makes it shameful
Makes sense. I have a high tolerance for things like 'tragedy as a character development tool' and over-the-top (and sadly crudely animated) violence and gore, so I was able to look past that and enjoy the thematic depth of the world of Elfen Lied - one that uses a sudden leap forward in human evolution as a lens through which to examine the societal impact of introduction of unprecedented technology to a nation.
Also, Yuka really gets a bad rap as a character in spite of what a good person she is. She's nearly as unjustifiably hated as Nina Einstein.
>>142559033
>I almost never see shit related to something like Panty and Stocking and much less Lain
True. I meant controversial in the context that this is a 3x3 thread on /a/.
Lain is almost never criticised around here and P&S still usually receives a decent amount of respect.
>>142547151
>starwars
>godzirra
>run on sentences
It was difficult trying to comprehend your unnecessarily long sentence.
>>142559109
Judging by 3x3 threads makes no sense. It's a selective group of maybe around 100 people from all of Europe and United States. How does that represent what's popular or controversial at all?
Lain is often called pretentious and people who like it are claimed to be just pretending to do so P&S has been criticized in this very thread.
Just think of it this way. If you met a random person on the street and he was interested in anime. Would you be more suprised if he liked Code Geass and Elfen Lied or Lain and let's say Utena.
>>142559158
No one cares anymore, we already established why it's a masterpice so if you can read through the thread if you want.
>>142559238
>Judging by 3x3 threads makes no sense. It's a selective group of maybe around 100 people from all of Europe and United States. How does that represent what's popular or controversial at all?
I simply meant that (partially because it's so popular and generally despised by elitists) it's a controversial pick for a 3x3 thread, rather than a controversial pick in general. I should have been more careful to make that distinction clear. I get where you're coming from though.
>>142559038
Why dismiss the violence and gore, or look past it? It's clearly an integral part of the show. And did you really like the way they handled the technological themes? I just thought it was crude and juvenile. It lacked the elegance needed to tackle such subject matter and completely failed in touching any sort of interesting insight.
>>142545978
What are 1,2,3 and 6?
>>142559551
No, I got that. I just think controversial is a bad term in this context. If someone says their favorite movie is American Pie or Avengers, I wouldn't call that controversial.
>>142559563
>Why dismiss the violence and gore, or look past it?
Perhaps I should have phrased it differently. I'm very tolerant of that sort of thing, so it wasn't immersion-breaking for me when, for example, the kids killed the dog.
>I just thought it was crude and juvenile.
Nice pun. Oh, never mind, I misread crude as cruel.
The institutions in place in the series were quite literally juvenile, after all, they were dealing with a threat that was still not understood and so weren't adequately prepared for containing it, something which incidentally clears up a whole load of apparent plot holes.
>And did you really like the way they handled the technological themes?
Two things I found really interesting were the way in which organisations treated the next evolution beyond humans as subhuman animals with intent to control and use them as weapons, and the parallels between vectors and the introduction of guns to mankind. Elaborating on that second point, a small naked girl can kill a burly man in a flash as long as she has a gun: suddenly the nature of physical combat and priorities required for self-defence has been upended. Vectors take that idea and turn it into a biological trait, then examine the morality of dealing with children who are able to kill anyone that scolds them.
>>142546043
I wouldn't normally describe something as 'random' but that's a pretty good candidate for such a description. Fun though. 1/1.
Are you guys really arguing about Elfen Lied? Elfen Lied.
>>142559109
Is it true? I had a huge amount of friends who watched anime growing.... oh wait. Elfin Leid is newer then I thought. No wonder none of my peers have seen it.
I thought it was underground popular for cringe lords. I tried reading the manga, but it seemed like shit.
>>142558726
you're a girl
right?
>>142560145
You're just talking about the premise itself and some sort of value you attached to it yourself. You're giving the stupid show credit for your own thoughts. You observed surface level plot points and took them for a ride of your own. The show itself, on the other hand, is satisfied with exploitative cheap thrills, transparently manipulative melodrama, and jarringly awkward tonal shifts. It has no style, no grace.
>>142560520
you're a virgin
right?
>>142560587
yhea
but am I right?
>>142560520
>>142560640
>Imaishit
>virgin
Sounds about right
>>142560640
I'm not that anon, just pointing the obvious.
>>142560586
>You're giving the stupid show credit for your own thoughts. You observed surface level plot points and took them for a ride of your own.
I guess that's a possibility I need to consider. Probably doesn't help that I've read the manga too, because I could be unconsciously filling in blanks that the anime failed to.
It still had a surprisingly lucidly constructed plot, all things considered.
>The show itself, on the other hand, is satisfied with exploitative cheap thrills, transparently manipulative melodrama, and jarringly awkward tonal shifts. It has no style, no grace.
I guess I appreciate it in the way that people can find value in exploitation films. I don't mind cheap thrills if they're packaged in internally consistent writing with a well thought out setting.
>>142560520
<18/being allowed to post here
Tons of people with the Parasyte anime on their list.
One guy with the manga.
Such shit taste /a/.
>>142560640
I doubt it. I don't know where you get 'girl' from that list.
>>142547024
>better than mediocre
>A grade direction
i certainly hope you're joking
>>142560587
>>142560757
well there's no point in being so frustrated anon(s)
the reason i'm asking is because of his or hers(or its) fondness of female protagonists
its just that people tend to identify with others of the same gender
if anything i'd say you guys are virgins because you make such a big deal out of it, like it's a statement.
>>142560921
i think many of /a/'s user base is untrue with themselves and what they like just to appear to have a more unique or "patrician" taste than they actually have just to receive confirmation
it's kinda silly, putting up some facade on a anonymous image board
>>142560640
Yep, I am, and you are a loser virgin
>>142561270
I though everyone likes women here, I don't think it is a gendered thing and not me being a woman
>>142561270
>i think many of /a/'s user base is untrue with themselves and what they like just to appear to have a more unique or "patrician" taste than they actually have just to receive confirmation
I tried doing the reverse this thread and swapped out half of my 'patrician' picks for more entry-level things I love (not that I didn't still love those patrician shows).
It was an interesting experiment. Caused a lot more discussion.
>>142561365
>liking women
Gross. /a/ likes feminine penises.
>>142561305
I've no idea why you're so upset
>>142561270
There's a lot of girls here, idiot.
>>142561418
implying they like trans girls and femme gay dudes?
>>142561474
>a lot
Just three or four.
Whadayagotfame /a/?
>>142561474
There might be some women here, but I can't imagine girls on /a/.
>>142561692
But I'm a little girl /a/non. We're all little girls.
>>142561474
yhea but the stereotypical /a/ user isn't a girl right? It's a 30yo fat neckbeard sitting in a room in his parents basement, where every piece of cloth is stale with cum.
i think /a/ is far less heterogeneous than it appears, and i think it's to the detriments of all its users that it does not embrace this fact
>>142561270
> He doesn't realize that once you become a wizard you naturally prefer female protagonists.
>>142561732
>But I'm a little girl /a/non. We're all little girls.
In our hearts!That doesn't count.
