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holy shit, hisoka fags on suicide watch
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>>142545448
Why would gon cry about Hisoka dying?
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Hisoka is just putting on a show for the viewers
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Screencap this. Hisoka's "that" is similar to Gon's berserker mode, except it changes Hisoka into a young girl and takes years for him to grow back into his adult form.
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It seems Gon is making good progress in his "Training" or whatever the fuck he is doing, did he actually sense Hisoka's death? Like did he just know it was Hisoka by Hisoka's nen or some shit? I also don't understand why Gon would cry over Hisoka dying, guess he had a soft spot for him.

Gon looks a bit older as well in that panel
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>Togashi has his fans so used to him drawing like shit that they'll take a badly drawn HxH page as real
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Is this worth reading?
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>>142545553
He doesn't. It looks like a mixture of shopped together some of Togashi's art and drew in Gon training
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Oh shit you guys, I got a new spoiler pic. Turns out Chrollo is the one who dies.
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>>142545448
Looks like a page from Naburo.
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He will just do what majinboo did, afterall they have the same properties
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So, as we all know, there are 6 Nen types:

Enhancer

Emitter

Manipulator

Transmutter

Conjurer

Specialist

But what if, there are really only 3 "base" Nen types: Enhancer, Manipulator, and Conjurer?

What I mean is, the other categories can practically be explained with only those 3 categories.

An Emitter is essentially someone who "Manipulates" their own Nen, and Emitters are generally impulsive and hot-blooded, but calm down quickly. Almost like a simple person that is also agrumentative.

A Transmuter is like essentially who temporarily "Conjures" up properties of an object in their own Nen, and they're whimsical liers, like people that are determined and simple but also logical and guarded/cautious.

Specialisits are a bit trickier. but many of them that we've seen included some types of Conjuration and Manipulation. Neon "conjured" a beast, and in a way, "manipulated" peoples fortunes and futures. Chrollo "conjures" a book, and "manipulates" the abilities of other Nen users as his own. Leol does a similar thing to Chrollo. Neferpitou's is pretty much self-explainatory, conjure a beast and manipulates it/uses it to manipulate herself. Pakunoda "conjures" up a gun, and "mainpulates" memories, or (more loosely) "manipulates" people (by touching them) to "conjure" up their memories. Meleron is a bit harder to explain. He "manipulates" himself or people by touching them, and "conjures" up a lack of presence. Komugi "manipulates" herself and "conjures" up ideas for Gungi. Don't want to get into Omakagi (because I can't remember him, lol), because he isn't canon, but just looking at his abilities from the wiki, it looks like some types of conjuration+manipulation, lol. I could probably come up with an explanation for him, too.
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>>142545448
post your kao when that girl from isida's spin-off rushes to Hisoka's aid
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>>142546307
Again, specialists sare tricker in the personality adscpect as well, and their's not much that can be drawn in similarity, except that specialist often refrain from being close friends, and Conjurers' guardedness. Plus, specialists often have way different personalituies and circumstances, so it's hard to tell! Meleron's, Chrollo and Pakunoda's personalities certainy seem to fit both Manipulator and Conjurers' while also fitting Specialists, but not Neon or Neferopitou!

The Nen water test could also, to some point, be used to support this theory, although the evidence would be far looser and weaker.

For example, one could explain Transmuter;s making of the water sweeter as a mix of enhancing the water with impurities. Or Emitter's making of the water change color as moving something that has to do with the water's volume that results in a color change?

(IDK, the emitter water result is very weird and nonsensical compared with the rest of the water results in the first place. Seriously, why would water change color instead of just move or something? Changing the water's color seems more like a Conjurer thing, DESU. Maybe Togashi made it like that so that it wouldn't be confusing if somebody in story was an emiter and had to do that? But the readers would probably figure it out, and there are a lot of things in the HxH world that would be confusing to the characters but not to the readers, so maybe there's some deeper reason behind it? It would make for some good theory material. Or maybe that was the reason and he just wasn't thinking much about it, lol.)

Specialists' test vary, but based on Neferpitou's result, it was kinda of like "conjuring" up impurities in the leaf to dissolve it, I guess. But then again, Neferpitou's abilities largely have to do with Conjuartion and Manipulation in the first place, so again, it's hard to tell.
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>>142546327
This would also mean that, from Bisky's words, that Gon, who is between Enhancer and Emitter, but mostly towards Enhancer also has a tiny bit of Mainpulatorness in him, mostly seen in his stubborness and arguing with people (e.g. Gon vs Illumi, right after the completion of Gon's year's Hunter Exam)

Well, maybe I'm just overthinking things, though, but I thought this was a cool theory, and wanted to share it.


tl;dr


The theory is that there are only 3 base Nen types: Enhancer, Manipulator, Conjurer.


Emitter = Enhancer+Manipulator

Transmuter = Enhancer+Conjurer

Specialist = Generally, Conjurer+Manipulator (a bit harder to support with evidence)


See above for reasoning, evidence.
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>>142545889

Pretty much this.

Though, that doesn't look anything like what Togashi would draw, even when he's half-assing it. The lines are way too strong, and the colors are too dark. Gon's face also looks totally different; the perspective in the back is fucked up, etc.

It's a really shitty fake.
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>>142546327
what language is that?
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How in the fuck is Gon training? Didn't he lose his nen? Also source is legit.
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>>142546359
Chrollo fags are that desperate.

Can't wait for the rivers of anal pain.
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>>142545553
He never managed to suck his rubber dick
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>>142546325
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Are all the people taking this deviant art bad shop seriously baiting? Has the shitposting gone this far or are you legitimately retarded?
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Did vizanon post the chapter yet?
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>>142546687

I can't wait for Thursday, holy fuck.
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Is Togashi good at drawing? I can't remember.
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>>142546945
Reverse troll, we're so deep in this shit, we take everything.
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>>142547088
yesno
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>>142545448

Fake, Mito expressly forbids televisions in the house, and the last person that brought a TV into their little village was burnt to death for corrupting the youth.
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>>142546976
yes, the mediafire folder is updated
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>>142547276
link?
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>>142547293
use the archive
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>>142547124
But its okay for the fanatics to play with Gon's dick? Fuck you Mito.
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>>142546638
It's fake. Anybody can upload an image on that site.
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>>142547020
my side
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Daily reminder that Hisoka will gone SuperSaiyanBuffUp like Biscuit and Gonn and ravage Kuroro pussy until he run out of tear.
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Spoilers for the final few chapters before the next hiatus were already leaked on 2ch. Hisoka goes to Mijin Gakure and Chrollo is forced to use a technique to seal Hisoka in the book instead of killing him. Everybody is alive and Hisoka will be back.
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>>142546325
Why did people dislike that one shot? I thought it was charming. Haven't seen any valid arguments against it yet.
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>>142547020
What the flying fuck is that?
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>>142548470

a faggot
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>>142545961
fuck you
spoiler that shit
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>Pedoclown will die and all his cancerous retard fans will finally fuck off
It's gonna be so good to hear your bitching in these threads. I can't wait.
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>>142548319
It's mostly people don't like Ishida because he is the author of a very popular manga.
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>>142548319
I like how still left Hisoka a mystery while just giving some details on his backstory like how he learned nen and his time with the circus, considering Togashi says it's canon.
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>>142548470
a flying fuck
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All Hisoka fans right now
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>Got bored and started the english dub
Only on the first episode, Gon's voice is ok, Leorio's needs to be a touch more manly. Kurapika's is fucking perfect and better than the jap.

Wonder If'll like hisokas
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Post some Hisoka faggots
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>>142549974
Sounds good for Hisoka
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Honestly I had the theory that if both characters die this series is getting pushed to end.

I'm wondering if that's going to be the case.
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>>142549932
Considering reading this childish looking series for the edgy clown.
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>>142549988
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>>142549986
Chrollo's is awful.
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>wake up
>Netero is still dead
It's not fair
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>>142550001
Actually i 'm dumb it is the fight against Kastro
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>>142545889
It's obviously real nigga
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>>142550060
We really need some GRATITUDE.
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>>142550060
>couldn't even kill an ant
>the pinnacle of his life long training, the zero hand, did nothing
>had to pull a cheap ass super aids nuke suicide attack like some lowly terrorist
>wasn't even a nen technique, just a regular old fashioned bomb every normal guy could've used

Fuck him, glad he's dead. His son is twice the man he was.
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>>142545448
>there are actually people who think this is real
Also I'm convinced some retarded Hisokafag in this thread drew that
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>>142549986
>got to Hisoka's
He needs to give leorio's some of his masculinity in his voice.
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What's the best thing about Danchou?
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>>142550771
He's about to rid the world of a disgusting pedo.
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>>142550771
He's a smooth motherfucker.
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>>142550771
His perfect composure.
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>>142550771
He's cute.
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>>142545961
Chrollofags on suicide watch
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>>142550722
>implying Togashi draws better than that
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>>142550948
(You)
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>>142550956
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>142550983
Reverse (You)
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>>142550997
Reverse (You)
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HERE IT IS
>>142551045
>>142551038
(You)
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>>142545448
So spoiler.net is letting anyone upload fakes? They won't last long if they don't try to maintain a minimum of control over their content.
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>>142551135
>>142551112
Look at the Time the guys you quote weren't samefags
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>>142548319
Well it's hard to like something that's so completely unfinished. I didn't think it added anything to the Hunter universe but rarther regurgitated what we already knew nor was it a very compelling story on its own. I also disliked how Hisoka was just some kind of edgy but super talented kid lacking all of the things that make him interesting such as the fact that he enjoys the fight and murder (sexually). I don't actively dislike it but I wonder what people did like about it.
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New chapter: 2 days
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>>142545615
Can Kuroro use "that" too? I want to see loli Hisoka fighting loli Kuroro
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>>142547293
https://www.mediafire.com/?ujfpyfxyv9a63
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Honestly we just need a "suddenly everybody has been turned into kids for some reason" chapter.
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>>142548319
I think it was very entertaining, and managed to give some backstory to Hisoka without giving out too much and keeping him mysterious. I can't wait to see the finished version.
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>>142545911
no
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>>142545911
no
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>>142545615
Hisoka used "that" and now they are dancing.
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>>142551660
>chrollo dancing with a little girl
He's not a pedo like the clown
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>>142545448
Could "that" beat saitama?
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i-is this real?
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>>142551838
>tumblr
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>>142551863
It kinda looks like it. But if it is, it's probably Texture Surprise, since Togashi mentioned he was thinking of using it on someone's face. I hope that's real though, then this fight can be over.
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>>142551863
RIP HISOKAFAGS
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>>142551863
Kek
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>>142551838
>saitama
>tumblr
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>>142551863
The HunterXHunter Gon face looks like it was photoshopped.
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>>142551863
God, I hope this isn't real.
>Another week of this fucking fight just for the conclusion
Fuck you Togashi if this is real.
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>>142551863
Looks like it.
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>>142551863
One down.
Next: Kurapika.
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chrollo looks better with hair down
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>>142551863
The art looks real but the hunterxhunter tag looks photoshopped. First Ali now hisoka fuck 2016.
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>>142551863
THIS IS FUCKING FAKE DELETE THIS
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>>142551863
n-nani...NANI KORRRRRE!??????
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>>142551863
What does the bottom left say?
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>>142551990
Well, we never have pages out this early... and it could be Deceitful Texture
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>>142552060
>Gum and rubber...
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>>142551863
Ear shape is weird, the star's ends feel a bit too long and the way the cut neck/blood is drawn doesn't feel good.
It also looks more like Togashi's old style. Otherwise, nice fake, way better than OP's picture.
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>>142551863
source for the image?
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>>142551990
>>142552100
denial
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>>142552060
決着 - settlement/conclusion?
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>>142550771
How much I want to fuck him.
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>>142551863
Tthis is clearly a picture taken of an ink drawing rather than a printed page. Which suggests to me someone fakes it who's good at faking the style.
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>>142551439
? There is no finished version. This was the oneshot.
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>>142549623
>canon
Have you ever read other Togashi interviews?
Togashi was being 'kind' as usual but he doesn't even give a flying fuck about that stuff. He just let this mangaka fanboy do whatever the hell he wants about Hisoka's backstory.
Togashi was never interested in making any backstory to begin with.
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>>142551863
HISOKAFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>142551863
>>142545448
>Straight outta DevianArt
Try again/10.
At least post pics who seem like Togashi's artstyle neo-/a/
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>>142552245
Yeah and seems like the bottom left was shopped on top, it's a fake
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>>142551863
TOP KEK
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>>142550771
BASED JOBBER
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>>142551863
FUCKING END THIS FIGHT ALREADY.
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>>142551863
No, but a better fake than OP's pic. The text and Gon's face are clearly shopped. Nice fanart though.
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>>142552294
stay mad it is canon
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>>142552245
The bottom is shopped. You can see that the degree of blur applied to the drawing and the manga labels are not the same.
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>>142552412
What exactly would it bein canon change? It only confirmed that he's been part of a circus once and that he's a trasmuter. Both of which were already obvious. There's really nothing else to take from it.
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>>142552116
Nah dude, I'm for Chrollo's victory but this is really a fake.
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>>142552294
translated interview link please ?
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>>142552617
No spoon-feeding sir
Go be newfag somewhere else please
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That's not real, but it is an excellent fake. Props to the dude who drew it, he could take over for Togashi and nobody would notice
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>>142545448
That doesn't even look like Togashi's style and there are panels from the last 10 chapters on the right.
I knew the fake spoilers would get unbearable but this doesn't look convincing at all.
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>>142552901
>on the right
I'm tired, i meant on the left. I'm pretty sure the middle one is that one panel of Ging in the street.
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>>142552844
This one.
>>142551863 Not the OP
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>>142552844
>he could take over for Togashi and nobody would notice

Several people noticed in this thread. And it's only a drawing of a severed head, not the most difficult thing to copy.
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>>142552844
I might not be the best artist ever (but still good enough for people to spend almost a hundred per piece) and only started reading this like two days ago, but something is seriously up with the proportions.
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>>142552992
I suppose you're right. But they mostly noticed because of the dirty shop on the bottom. The actual inking looks very Togashi-ish. One can tell it is an inking though, and that's another red flag that it's fake.
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>AAAAAAHHHH!! HELP ME ILLUMI!!
What did he mean by this?
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>>142551863
it cant be real right ... ? right ?
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>>142553007
How good are Togashi's proportions usually?
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>>142553244
Haven't seen enough to comment.
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>>142553108
It's not, though it's quite good. For one, it's easy to see the logo on the bottom is shopped. In addition, this is an inking, and Togashi's finished work is printed
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>>142553007
Doesn't look super unreasonable to me considering the face is leaning a little to the left and his facial muscles would be relaxed when he's dead
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>>142553244
think about the turkey
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>>142553033
Yeah, the shop in the corner was a mistake. And I don't understand why someone with access to spoilers would only take a picture of one single panel.
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>>142545448
>>142551863
come on guys, just wait two more days
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>>142553481
I CAN'T!
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>>142551863
>spend time drawing a fake image
>can't spend more than five seconds poorly shopping the logo on
Why
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Can someone explain to me what the deal with Gyro is? What chapter does he appear in? Why does everyone know him? I recently reread the entirety of HxH but somehow managed to miss him completely. I have no idea how. Call me a speed reader or whatever, but why do you guys think he's so relevant(or will be)?
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>>142551863
Its all part of the plan.


Bungee Gum has the properites of both gum and rubber. Surprise Texture can create fakes.

The head is just a puppet head
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>still getting tricked by a 1 week old fake
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>>142553636
Him and Gon are fated to meet, Welfin is searching for him and he's probably in Meteor City now.
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>>142553636
You're a speed reader, and that's all that needs to be said.
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>>142553352
T R A C E D
R
A
C
E
D
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>>142553669
who is that cutie?
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>>142553636
You missed the entire chapter dedicated to him?
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>>142553636
this>>142553676
the manga stops mid-arc to explain who gyro is and that him and Gon will meet, it's one entire chapter that interrupts the ant arc so if you missed it you must be a speedreader
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>>142553755
Apparently? Could you tell me which one it is?
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>>142553795
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>>142553795
Use the fucking wiki and find it yourself.
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>>142546761
whats this from link
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>>142545864
he's clearly watching the fight on TV...
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>>142551863

How would someone obtain this image this early?
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>two more days of this
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>>142545864
it's fake stupid
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>>142546761
where can i find the translated version?
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>>142553964
Rubber and gum.
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>>142554022
>>142553908
http://readms.com/r/one_shot/Hisoka%20Origin%20Story/3450/1?t=2&f=0&e=1
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>>142554033
Neck yourself.
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>>142551863

Anyone going to verify this shit?
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Oh, Jairo was Gyro. I get that it's how it's pronounced, but the Manga (at least the version I read) only used Jairo. Fuck you guys.
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>>142554058
It's not real, read the replies. It's a good fake though
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>>142551863
the noise makes it seem unlegit
>>142554044
thanks yo
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>>142554058
I'm Togashi's editor and can confirm the pic is real.
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>>142551863
well iam like 90% sure its texture surprise. I mean its not a coincidence that hisoka was holding a severed head for like a 90% of the fight
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>>142554079
>not reading the viz scans
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what did he mean by this?
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>>142554095
I am your mom and can confirm you need to come down for dinner.
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>>142554084
I read them and no reply showed it wasn't real

>>142554095

How can I be top 3 shocked asshole?
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>>142554044
cheers m8
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>>142554103

It's fake.
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>>142551863
You can tell it's fake because Hisoka should be smiling.
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any of you guys reckon togashi might leave hunter x hunter to Ishida if he dies/gives up before it's finished? I'd love to see Ishida draw more HxH stuff, maybe more polished though
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>>142554297
No, fuck off.
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>>142554297
Kill yourself.
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>>142554297
Not sure if he is serious or bait.
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>>142554297
If it's writtenanything like the Hisoka one shot then fuck no.
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>>142554297
>hunter x hunter written and drawn by ishida
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>>142553969
Text in a little less than 24 hours.
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>>142554297
>ishida
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>>142554297
I'd actually be fine with him just drawing it. I kinda like his artstyle.
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>>142554528
The art for the non-canon prequel was atrocious.
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>>142554297
after reading half of that "short" by him, I wouldn't want him to, even the art-style was pretty bad.
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>>142547020
Yeah, actually what if they both die.
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>>142551863
If Its a fake one It's done really well, the logo below looks kinda funny
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>>142553822
That guys is simply retarded
The anime had a whole episode about him so the read manga argument is not valid
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>>142554635
You do know it was a sketch, right?
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Killua is cute!
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>>142550771
>>142550799
>>142550805
>>142550821
>>142550827
I'm not a Hisocuck but you guys are becoming Killuafag-tier.
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>>142551863
RIP KIMBO SLICE
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That beheaded Hisoka image is real
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>>142555216
Why do Hisoka and Killuafags try to drag others down with them?

There's nothing even wrong with what they said.
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>>142555216
Yeah, it's not like Hisoka fans have been fucking cancerous for weeks now.
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>>142555269
Because they believe expressing a liking for a character = being Killuafag tier.
It's mostly because they don't realize how obnoxious they are and think it's the norm. It's pretty much autism.
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>>142555216
>>142555269
>>142555276
all these motherfucking "fags" are fucking annoying, jesus fucking christ

shut the fuck up
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>>142550771
How he is fabulous.
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>>142555343

What do you suggest my friend, Chrollotard, Chrollo fan, Chrollo posters?
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>>142555387
>tumblr humor
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>>142555416
Chrolove
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>>142555416
>The Grandchildren of the Great Sensui: Sons of Quwrof Wrlccywrlir
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>>142555387
>yo
>bruh
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>>142555508
Did Chrollo get the fag gene?
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>>142555343
I said "fans" not "fags", fag.
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>>142554127
Gon is a nigga
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>>142555416
Retards. Just like all of the Kurapika, Killua and Hisoka faggots.
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If Hisoka died, what would it mean?
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>>142555664
Look at this Chrollofag.
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>>142555727
That Chrollo won.
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>>142555727
That hxh is shit
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>>142555727
Nothing. He has no one in the HxH that likes him, except M-A-Y-B-E Machi/Illumi.
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>>142555869
>machi
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>>142555727
That HxH is good and not generic shonenshit.
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>>142555869
Machi fucking hates him and Illumi probably wouldn't care much.
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>>142550019
How can this be? DELETE THIS!
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>>142555869
Machi hates him for his betrayal and hates him even more for targeting Chrollo.
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>>142555727
It would mean he went out doing what he loved.
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>>142555869
who is Gon?
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>>142556013
Which is for the best. I don't want him being ruined and shoehorned into arcs for the sake of popularity.
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>>142556024
Someone who doesn't give a single shit about Hisoka
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>>142556024
Gon doesn't think of Hisoka as a friend, he'd just be like "man that kind sucks" and then move on if hisoka died, though i don't he will not at this point in the series anyway
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>>142556093
>being ruined
What? Ruined? And are you implying Togashi puts him in arcs for popularity? What the fuck?
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>>142555918
>>142555956
Machi is tsundere for him. She is trying so hard to hide her feelings because he is a traitor to the troupe, but I bet Hisoka makes her pussy as wet as an otter.
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>>142556240
Proof?
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>>142556240
>hisokafag delusions
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post yfw Hisoka's "that" assblasts cuckrollo
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>>142556168
No, but I am worried that something like that may happen, since this is Shounen we're talking about.
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Gon woudl be sad, he doesn't particularity likes Hisoka but he doesn't hate him too. He get easily attached. That's because he is such an an oddball that he could befriend Killua and not care about his story.

Hisoka is not dying here anyway.
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>>142556283
>>142556285
>No fun allowed
I was just making a joke and you jump all defensively with character wars again. The Chrollo vs Hisoka shitposting is getting to you anons, take a break.
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>>142556353
>jokes
proof?
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>>142556353
>I was only pretending to be retarded guys!
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>>142545889
The thing is though, it doesn't even look anything like his art. You can look from his shittiest to his best art and it never uses that style.
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>>142556116
>>142556116
>>142556135
he's his second best friend and Killua just bailed on him
think of all the time we saw with Gon+Kite vs Hisoka and then imagine what gon san will do to that thiefs face after he gets his nen back
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>>142551863
TOGASHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>142556453
>he's his second best friend
I'd imagine Kite would be his second. Leorio and Kurapika would also probably rank higher than him.
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>>142556453
>he's his second best friend
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>>142556394
That doesn't apply to this situation. Sorry for not following the outline for this threads. Let me rephrase my previous post so it fits in this threads:
>DURR HISOTARDS BTFO
>RUBBER AND GUM QWROROF IS DEAD LOL

I swear you guys are retarded.
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>>142550014
read it about 4 weeks ago complete. absolutey worth it
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>>142556531
Fuck off already.
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>>142556531
You haven't included "that' into your calculations retard
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>>142556453
>he's his second best friend
kek
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>>142556453
he's Gon's biggest rival, but they are not friends
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>>142556586
He's not his rival at all, Gon doesn't give a shit about him. Gon's antagonist was Pitou.
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I'd think that Gon would feel bad about hisoka dying desu. Hisoka isn't ponzu that no one really gives a shit about.
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>>142555869
Machi hates his fucking guts.
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Gon is drawn to Transmuters. Hisoka himself said they could be great friends. He's definitely gonna cry.
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>>142556639
> believing the clown jokes
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>>142556622
Gon would not give a single flying fuck about Hisoka dying.
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Wonder why Hisoka never continue learning new Nen techniques after Bungee Gum and Texture Surprise.
If Ishida's story is canon, then he learned both of those in a couple weeks(one of them within an hour), years ago.
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>>142556622
No one actually gives a shit about Hisoka though, maybe Illumi if you're pushing it.
>>142556639
What does that have to do with anything? Do you think he woud cry if Feitan died?
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