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>muh voiceless incantations
>muh gary stu eyes
>muh infinite mana
>muh king class magic
>muh magic negation
>muh libido
>muh adultery
>muh threesome
why is Rudeus so shit? He ruined the entire series.
How is there not an anime of this yet?
>>142374128
This is bait thread sure, but to be fair I can't get into the series for almost the same reason as OP.
The MC is a very creepy dude.
>Battle with Paul
>gets his ass kicked
>Battle with kidnappers
>has to get saved by Ghysuline
>Battle with Snake
>kids die
>captured by beastmen
>has to get saved by Ruijerd
>captured with Pax
>has to get saved by Zanoba
>Battle with Orsted
>has to get saved by Banana
>Battle with Badi
>ass-kicked
>Battle with Hydra to rescue parent
>other parent dies
>OP Future Rudi
>fails at everything forever
>Second round with Orsted
>becomes Orsted's bitch
>Asura arc
>has to be saved by Orsted
>Pax arc
>fails miserably, almost loses Roxy which was the entire point of the second half of the series
>Milis arc
>misunderstanding
>Final arc
>saved by Orsted
Rudi status = jobber
I can't believe people think he's competent let alone OP
>>142374376
>The MC is a very creepy dude.
The whole story is about him over coming it ( mostly ), with the help of whole some ( polygamous ) family values.
>>142374376
he has nothing on Tales of Demons and God's MC
old fuck is brought back to when he was a kid and keeps hitting on the girl he fell in love with in her past life, who currently is also still a kid.
At least Paul calls Rudi out on his Genji plan bullshit,
Is this the LN thread? Pic related ended.
>>142375149
Jesus Christ, censor that picture.
I declare this greater than Mushoku Tensei, prove me wrong.
>>142375389
need to read it first (but with a female protag I'm inclined to agree).
what other novels actually finished so far
I mean there's MT, ate the death god, monkey ojou, and coiling dragon
Need more... Nanasawa.
>>142375149
Is that the LN where she raises her husbando?
>>142375984
What happened with BT is down?
>>142376081
Weren't they just moving servers?
Heads up, I'm translating Aisha Arc. Should be done in a week or two.
>>142376233
I thought the author deleted Aisha Arc.
>>142375915
It wasn't intentional, but that just makes it better.The finale also has all of the other potential fates for him coming together to help him, including oyakodon end and sexy mad scientist end.
Also it seems to be widely accepted in-setting by the other women that there's no way in hell he's going to be faithful.
>>142376668
That's why I'm translating it.
>>142375984
Just thanks to this image I'm going to read this LN, I assume the MC and her are a couple at this point right?
>>142374128
I dropped it once I realized he wasn't going to be banging any lolis. Rudeus a gay.
>>142376753
They hook up in the second to last volume, but there's only 8 so it doesn't drag out too long. Also the series goes by a format for three sets if main characters, though Shinobu(the guy in the pic) is the "main" main character. The other two sets are a detective who attracts middle school girls and then the older sister of one of said middle school girls who is sort of a supernatural mercenary. I should also add the detective and mercenary are both fully grown adults if you're sick of it always being high school students.
Wasn't a sequel to this supposed to be developed with a different MC? When will it be written?
>>142375984
>it's okay when the mother does it
Reading Commushou. Best Breast-feeding NTR porn novel.
Any idea what this novel is about? Art seems good. Found it in another ln thread quite a while ago.
>>142377130
Minor typo, there's 9 volumes.
>>142374376
He starts to get over that. I totally agree, the dude is the worst kind of NEET creep to start off with but his self-consciousness of it constant efforts to fix it make it a pretty great story in the end.
>>142377130
So this guy >>142375984 >>142375149 is not even the main character, just one of the three mc's present in the LN?
>>142377007
He identifies one of the main girls as a loli on sight and she does not at age all throughout the series.
>>142377254
Of the three, he's the primary main character, so to speak. The critical endgame in the novels almost always falls to him.
WN updates never.
Fuck you guys. I liked it.
Is World Three STILL not done translating the Adventurer Chapter?
>>142378381
Dunno, for all its flaws it was a nice little thing, can't really hate it.
>>142374963
Nei Li is a creepy stalker level fucker. Good call. He's also a wish fullfillment gary stu. I mean the girls he's macking on are all <13, he gets worse when he realizes that the other chick was the "nameless" babe he bangs for a few centuries after his wife died, then he adds that 12yo girl to his future harem plans as well. It doesn't help that he's already indoctrinated her into wanting to be his cock sleave before he even wanted to sleep with her.
>>142376699
Are you pastebinning it or sending it to pielord?
>>142378418
It's fucking ridiculous. Someone needs to nut up and do it themselves.
>>142375149
>BT epub generator images are still broken
Fuck, I can't read this shit on a computer screen, I need my Kindle
>>142374128
It's a highly overrated series to begin with, never understood /a/'s obsession with it.
>>142378502
Babby's first isekai reincarnation series. Kind of like how Haruhi was pretty overrated in retrospect.
>>142378555
It's also the only good reincarnation LN.
>>142375501
>I mean there's MT, ate the death god, monkey ojou, and coiling dragon
only LN/WN that really competes with MT is probably "I shall Seal the heavens"; coiling dragon gets better the further in you get, but the first half on the mortal plane sucks donkey balls.
>>142378381
>>142378433
I don't hate it and it was entertaining me when I read it but I'd be lying if I thought X character wasn't an idiot, douche, jackass, hypocrite, psychopath, or whatever else in most LN's that I've read
>>142378581
Not even close.
>>142377007
>I dropped it once I realized he wasn't going to be banging any lolis. Rudeus a gay.
roxy is a perma-deadpan-loli.
>>142378611
What's better then?
>>142378686
Kenkyo
>>142378595
>wuxia or xianxia shit
>in any way, shape or form good
There's a damned good reason I filtered out pretty much everything written by a gook or chink.
>>142378686
konosuba is pretty good. not sure if i'd rate it over MT, seeing as how they're almost completely different genres.
>>142378702
we're never going to get pics of the kids at this rate.
>>142378754
Konosuba is transportation, not reincarnation.
>>142378686
Kumo for starters.
>>142378754
They're both reincarnation/isekai nonsense so you can.
>>142378381
Man this series grabbed me by vol 1 and I came out of it loving it and actually satisfied with the ending. There's pretty much nothing else I could ask of it.
>>142378555
It executes its story far better than most. There wasn't any part of it I really disliked. I'd happily re-read just about any part of the story.
>>142378749
>There's a damned good reason I filtered out pretty much everything written by a gook or chink.
"I shall seal the heavens" is unreasonably good in comparison to usual wuxia/xianxia stuff.
The author has a top tier sense of humor, and the MC (Ming Hao) is one of my favorites in any medium.
>>142378749
>pretty much everything
Out of curiosity, what haven't you filtered?
>>142377218
That's not his mom, that's one of his household's resident Yokai.
>>142378742
>>142378795
Not him but I haven't heard of these ones, or at least the names aren't ringing any bells. What are Kumo and Kenkya?
does anyone have rare tanukis?
>>142378781
Doesn't he still have a rotting corpse back on Earth though?
Is there some japanese site where you can browse by tags or something?
I was in the mood for something fantasy but holy shit there's so much reincarnation/dimensional travelling stuff I'm struggling to find anything "normal"
>>142378456
pastebin like I always had. Here's initial draft for the first two chapters, if anyone want roughs:
http://pastebin.com/YNNzUSa5
http://pastebin.com/g8zUbRSE
I'll put them on BT if I can find some proofers to edit the grammar a bit.
>>142378938
Kenkyo is a cute story about a girl who wakes up one day as the villain of her favorite otomege.
Kumo is a cute story about a girl who wakes up as a spider.
>>142379030
Oh the spider reincarnation one I've been seeing now and then. Been meaning to pick that one up.
>>142379030
>"here we go again"
>>142378987
Trying to find regular jap fantasy is pretty hard nowadays due to the flood of narou and syousetu stuff getting turned into LNs and published seeing as the majority of those are isekai or reincarnation things.
>>142378502
>If it’s taken as a given that people cheat their way to the top in society, then in order for a narou protagonist to succeed, he needs to be placed into a world where his own particular skills can be used as cheats.
>It’s no surprise, then, that the vast majority of isekai stories are based on JRPG-inspired worlds, particularly the pseudo-medieval settings of the Dragon Quest series and the early Final Fantasy games.
>It also explains why everything seems to fall into place for these narou protagonists as soon as they figure out the “trick” to succeeding – and why very few of them ever manage to achieve conventional success in their own worlds, even at the end of their stories.
>Umetsubame explained this cynicism is a result of the current social climate. Japan is past its economic bubble, there is no job security for young people, and in order to get hired you need to bury your individuality. Instead of pathologising narou fans, he points to society’s arbitrary standards of success as the underlying problem. You can work and work and work, but still be laid off your job. Narou stories function not only as escapist fiction, but also as an affirmation of this particular worldview.
>>142379133
They seem to be under the impression people can't self insert if the main character isn't from Japan and doesn't try to be at least somewhat genre savvy.
>>142379194
Try Nanasawa's stuff, closest to regular fantasy stuff I've read in a while, flame ring and girl that ate a deathgod are mostly civil war stuff with low magic elements so have fun with those.
>>142379133
>Konosuba animated
>Re:Zero animated
It's funny how quickly isekai shit became so proliferated until we have already managed to reach postmodern deconstruction isekai.
>>142374963
TDG is shit,
you want a MC who gets things done?
not arrogant, gets faced with assholes all day?
made a promise not to be an ass?
Has a big plan and will the best to achieve it?
Read Reincarnator
>>142379133
Yeah there's so much stuff being churned out I'm honestly at a loss whenever I want to get into something new.
Sometimes I like the art, then read some preview introduction and cringe at how fanfiction level the writing is.
I'm bad at this stuff, where do japanese people get LN information from when they're looking to start some new series?
>>142377228
Probably just a one shot made for a magazine. It's written by Kamachi, but it's not on his page, so.
Art is by the Blood Sign artist.
Why does Aisha look exactly the same now as she did five years ago?
>>142377218
It didn't work so well as Usagi Drop and had to take several absurdly convoluted turns to reach that point, so it's fine.
>>142379402
I just dive in into things and see if it manages to repulse me. There's also a thing with a beastman mercenary and witch shimikaze that seems to be pure fantasy with no isekai or reincarnation stuff, seems pretty decent so far, thing is it's getting translated by Nanodesu so I'm going to be old and grey before it's done.
>>142379452
What's with all the fucking sparkles, did they kidnap a shojo manga artist to illustrate this?
>>142379526
Better love story than twilight
>>142379452
being Norn sucks.
>>142379452
That must be the new house. It's funny, that's exactly how I pictured it.
>Kizu is now available as an Audible audiobook
What a time to be alive
>>142378686
Stuff with girl MCs (that arent gender bender) tend to be higher quality for some reason.
MT just has the advantage of being fully translated.
I personally like Akuyaku Tensei Dakedo Doushite Kou Natta. in addition to the other stuff mentioned for one example.
>>142378987
Just because it features a protagonist who came from our world doesn't mean it can't be regular fantasy. The dealbreaker is JRPG or MMO elements
>>142380112
More updates when.
>>142380153
Eh, a good writer can salvage anything, just look at stuff like Lazy King.
>>142374128
Well fuck me, I "finished" reading Deathgod the other day and thought it ended withher eating the other guyand I was so devastated with the ending being so open, thank god I checked this thread and noticed there was a Final chapter.
On another note, is anyone else reading Genjitsuhugisha? It's sooo good, you can tell the author actually did his homework in politics, it's a bit painful how the translations are so slow though.
Mr lyle is best boy.Only 4 ancestors left ;-;
>>142380243
Long live colonel Schera's potato field.
>>142378868
>Ming
It's Meng you infidel.
704 when?
>>142380254
The ancestors are pretty much the best part of the book, so having them go away all the time makes me not want to read further.
>>142378502
It was basically the first isekai to become popular on /a/ and it got very rapid translations. Stuff like that tends to generate popularity regardless of the quality. Remember when Terra Formars got basically speedscanned and /a/ wouldn't shut up about it for a few weeks before it petered off? Or when Tomo-chan showed up and continued going with daily threads?
Things that produce a lot of content quickly generate interest, that's just how it is. Now that more isekai works are being adapted and translated, MT's overall quality is easier to see in comparison.
MT also has some other positives; it has quite an interesting start if you're into worldbuilding, for example.
>>142380325
At least we have Mr lyle.
>>142379403
Speaking of Blood Sign I hope js06 gets back to that sometime, I read what was translated but didn't realize he didn't finish the first volume so now I have proverbial blue balls. I liked what was there despite the massive info dumping because of the White Queen and Kyousuke felt like how I imagined post-NT10 Touma to act with personal experience about why you don't stick your dick in crazy.
>Read the web novel
>It is written horribly, with no subtlety or tact whatsoever
>It's already a published LN and manga, with even the possibility of an anime
I'm now considering writing a WN of my own, just because I could write like total crap and still gain a militant following.
>>142380525
I ignored Blood Sign because I knew it wouldn't get translated during my lifetime, whoever now that you say that about sticking dick in crazy my interest piked. What happened after he stuck his dick in crazy?
>>142380243
There are two other series by the same author in the same universe. one seems to be new from what I recall while the other has a decent bit of chapters but not enough translations.
>>142380231
That's the current problem with all the good stuff. They're all either early in the translations or there's no way to stop yourself from binge reading and realizing you now have to wait for translations.
>>142378987
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/demon-girl-tale-of-a-lax-demon/
I know it has at least 4 volumes so far in Japanese so if you can read that then you're far better off than I am.
It's technically a reincarnation story but she can't remember most of her past (human) life outside of tiny snippets to begin with. I'm having a little difficulty describing what's actually good without spoilers. Just keep in mind that no matter how soft and fluffy she seems she is still a demon.
>>142380766
Yeah, I've been planning on reading the Fire Ring one this weekend, I'm not really that interested about the Hero one, but I'll check it out later because everyone keeps saying good things about it.
>>142380766
Yuru is pretty scary now that I think of it.
>>142380644
Not entirely sure yet, the translations haven't gotten through the first volume and it was still only showing small glimpses of the back story of his relationship with the White Queen. Whatever it was turned into a disaster since he's got some PTSD, and it had something to with why the summoning ceremony is so roundabout and complex.
>>142374128
read the novel rudeus is a good guy, it's a pretty long read too, dragon king orsted is a baller
>>142380525
I'll read Blood Sign when a elder god loli shows us.
>>142380614
I liked it, and statistically speaking I'm likely better than you so there is that
>>142381018
There was a side story in Death god featuring the hero that it sounds like you might have missed.
The tone while similar is slightly different but that's more due to it being different chapters than anything possibly due to there being so few of the hero chapters translated and it's being crossed over with death god. There's not much of a way to make a chapter anything but completely depressing for a character that runs into scheera before the prologue.
>>142380614
Unless you are a nip in nip land I doubt anything you write would ever upgrade to anything but some guy's shitty web fiction.
>>142380644
It has a bigger chance of being translated now that js06 is one SS away from being done with Zashiki Warashi. There's still some other Kamachi stuff untranslated though, I wonder what he's going to prioritize.
For real though, MT is the best
>>142378868
Er Gen tends to run his jokes into the ground and grind them into dust through repetition in ISSTH, though. I'd say ATTE is a bit better in the humor department so far.
>>142378381
I liked it until Rudeus married the three, since at that point the characters started flattening at supersonic speed.
>>142380112
I like Akuyaku, though I'm still waiting to see if the author realized that there's a damn good reason why people don't usually fucking use salt as pesticide.
>>142381719
It'll probably come up at some point, Akuyaku is pretty autistic when it comes to details. Wish I could find more LN illustrations of it besides the cover.
>>142380231
>Eh, a good writer can salvage anything, just look at stuff like Lazy King.
That's mostly because the reincarnation thing and MMO mechanics basically meant jack shit. You could replace most of the lingo with typical high fantasy equivalents and absolutely nothing would change.
>>142374128
The series went to shit after he started working with Orsted.
>>142381333
Which brings up the question: Why do western publishers and readers not understand the LN genre? Surely there are teens which would read this stuff in the west, if a western author wrote it.
>>142380325
Lyle has been gradually coming in his own with the passing of his ancestors. Looking at the sequel novel, he ends up being permanently in Mr Lyle mode.
>>142381889
Because the west already has Young Adult Fiction.
>>142381370
>I wonder what he's going to prioritize
Kawakami
>>142381925
Twilight doesn't count.
>>142381889
LNs are basically the Japanese version of YA fiction, just with more waifus. The West already has its own over-saturated genres (Hunger Games clones, Twilight clones, etc)
>>142374128
Any one know how well the Mushoku Tensei light novels are translated? I'm tempted to buy the paperbacks on amazon.
>>142381937
He mostly does that during the week right? I know he was updating Zashiki on the weekends, so he'll probably start doing BooBoo or Blood Sign now instead. I did manage to ask about Blood Sign while back and js06 said he just didn't care for the MC at first but he started to like him more by volume 2.
>>142381569
How good truly is ISSTH? I've only read Doulou Dalou and Coiling Dragon (which writing declined horribly after the first few arcs, finished it anyways). I've read the first couple of chapters and by the synopsis and comments it sounds like the author repeats the same formula over and over and over.
>>142381937
Well, yeah, of course. I was considering only Kamachi works, since js06 has been doing both his and Kawakami's novels at the same time for ages now.
>>142381890
He already is in a semi Mr Lyle mode all the time as of what has been translated
>>142382128
I'd recommend trying out AGT, I find the writing to be pretty good.
>>142382427
*ATG
>>142381054
So long as you say something as if it's an insignificant detail then people tend to not pickup on how terrifying, barbaric, or horrific it should be.
The first chapters are basically her devouring the souls of the damned but you don't notice it as easily because they taste like apples and strawberries.
>>142381650
It's amazing how fast one loses interest when characters actually get together. Then again, MT was already running on fumes by the time Rudeus was in the magic academy. I dropped it after Sensei was added to the harem after papa Greyrat was kill.
The childhood and Boyhood arcs were the height of it, in my opinion; there was a kind of charm to watching a boy with the mind of a 40 year old neet explore a fantasy world with a cute, feisty redhead that had one of the best tsun to dere transition I've read, along with a no nonsense uneducated demon guy with the most feared reputation.
It had a good slice of life feel and never dragged on too much without something happening.
Afterwards it just stagnated as more misfit side characters were added and redhead was gone along with the charm.
>>142382515
Yeah, she's pretty innocent, I should have gotten the hint considering just how fucking spooked people were when she got summoned and then went off to god knows where.
Can't really hate it. I wrote a 3 month worth reaction everyday (weekends not included).
>>142382499
>Against the Gods
>wish fulfillment cancer
>edgy
>good
It's SAO tier garbage
A Darkest timeline version of the story would be ten times as interesting instead of the trainwreck we got
>Overnight goes from a fairly well known young genius mage to top of a major nation's most wanted list
>Spends his life drinking, fucking whores and researching magic
>Girl who loves him the most is chasing him to the ends of the earth because attacking him is the only way she gets to spend time with him
>Becomes the most powerful mage ever and steals all forms of dragon magic
>Commit suicide via timetravel
I feel like from a historical perspective Dark Rudi would've been remembered on par with Laplace
>>142382499
>>142382427
Alright, I'll check it out, the edgy cover kind of turned me off from reading it but it seems to have quite the following.
>>142380254
I ended dropping this a while ago. Mr Lyle was fun but the the build up is so damn slow and I didn't feel the payoff was worth it. Also the romance was pretty retarded.
>>142382804
The japs would've murdered the author if he tried to pull that off.
>>142382804
He would have been remembered but there is no way in hell he was on par with Laplace in strength or accomplishments
>>142382535
I felt the Asura arc was the height of the series and I found it a pity MC didn't bang Ariel, and the Beast Princesses, and the little sister maid.
>>142378502
Hypothesising upcoming chapters with /a/ while it was still being translated was the best part.
>>142382802
Yes, I suppose an MC that befriends his opponents to submission would fair better. Buzz off.
also >wish fullfillment
Why are you even commenting on wuxia
>>142382633
Better to be fooled by her than most LN characters. There are people that have fooled themselves into thinking Ainz and the -5 billion Karma influencing his behavior isn't evil as one of the more extreme examples. She's at least designed to hide it behind all the floof and is warped to be nicer than normal demons.
>>142382804
From a historical perspective he would just be noticed as one of the biggest criminals of all time. If we list his crimes he never tried to wipe out humanity or anything grand. Not saying it wouldn't be run to read as Dark Rudi was pretty fucking op before he died.
>Essentially destroyed several kingdoms
>Destroyed religious bases
>Mass murderer
>Rapist
>>142382128
ISSTH is 10x better than DD
but the first 100 chapters is a bore to grind through, b
ut once it goes past the giant turtle, things start to get good, epic and hilarious
A line to lord fifth:
no fur or feather
tis a sin beyond measure
>>142383315
Ainz is a overstressed goofball half the time so I can see why people would think that, anime only watchers don't know shit either
>>142383259
>an MC that befriends his opponents to submission would fair better
That could make a funny story.
>Make guy virtually indestructible.
>At the price of zero damage potential.
>His only means of victory is just trying to calm shit down by trying to befriend, hugging it out and being nice to the opponent currently trying to murder him.
>He constantly channels pic related
>The antagonist can't be so easily worn out and won over because they are an antisocial autist that didn't even let their mother get in their personal space.
>>142383440
I don't deny he is. He's still clearly been leaning/advancing closer towards more evil and less of himself since the start. There's a bit of difference between what you said and making several thousand word essays on 4chan about moral relativism to defend his glorious honour as he's totally a paragon of purity.
>>142378781
It's called reincarnation in-story even though it effectively functions as transportation.
It's fun.
>>142383596
I'd read it.
>>142378657
Roxy is not deadpan at all, that's Lara, her daughter.
>>142383596
I want to read this
>>142383608
Not sure how people can call him a good guy after volume 7, or letting demon Mengele run around as if it's the most normal thing in the world or using the lizardmen as practice for his pet gelugon to train tactics on, the list goes on and on.
>>142379338
The funny thing is that there aren't even that many isekai anime, especially of the Narou boom variety, the anime industry just directly picked up the satirical ones to animate.
Hell most of Narou's most popular top 10 haven't been animated.
>>142378555
It's pretty much the only completely translated tensei series, not to mention it's a big one, the other would be Kumo Desu Ga, but it's unfinished and it came later. It's like TnY, it was huge on /a/ when it came out because it was fresh and the only recent, successful isekai around that time was Log Horizon and SAO.
Plus is actually good (unlike TnY), not amazing, but good enough to be worth a read.
>>142383712
Actually no, there are two choices in Konosuba; full on, mind wiping reincarnation and going to "heaven", MC and a bunch of others got limited time offer "transported into fantasy world".
>>142383072
>>142383339
I thought Dark Rudi had to murder Perugius to get the dragon magic he used for time travel
It was at this point that Meng Hao opened his eyes and looked out of his log cabin. Approaching slowly on foot was a somewhat emaciated looking middle-aged man. His body emanated the ancientness of time, and he was very thin. There was a ruthlessness to him, which presently seemed to have been replaced by complex emotions.
The ripples of a Nascent Soul cultivation base spread out from him, and when Meng Hao saw him, many different feelings filled him along with a sense of reminiscence.
As he walked up slowly, his appearance caused many of the surrounding disciples to be shocked.
“That’s…………………….
Who is it? I'm so terrible at remembering ISSTH characters even though I've faithfully followed it for more than a year now. I can't even remember Li Shiqi who apparently has appeared countless times.
>>142380254
>Mr lyle is best boy.
lyle is a fucking babby. and his dense protag act pisses me off.
>>142382804
What I found weird about old Rudy's story was the absolute lack of Orsted in it.
>>142382128
The only chinkz wn that matters.
>>142383951
No, he got the time travel magic from studying the dragon ruins. The reason he would have had to kill Perugius was the get the treasure to open the door to Hitogami. He didn't want to kill Perugius because he was the only one he could discuss the good old times with so he opted to try time travel instead
>>142378611
Honestly, Mushoku Tensei has the best world building and lore I've seen in a reincarnation series.
That's the thing alone that makes it better than the others for me. It was well defined and made me feel as if I was actually living there.
>>142384135
Blood demon patriach? His real identity is one of 3 greater demon mountain if I'm not wrong.
>>142384292
That's because despite all its faults and how much it did in popularizing many of the genre's worst cliches, it at least didn't indulge in the "game-like reality with status windows, levels, and skills" bullshit that's so common in other isekai stories.
>>142384181
Between Hitogami and Dark Rudy himself so many important people were dead Orsted probably just decided the time line was fucked and reincarnated
>>142384309
It should be some side character we haven't seen in a while. Some people over at Reddit thinks it might be Zhou Dekun (who I can barely even remember)
How on Earth do people keep track of side characters?
>>142383596
>Tournament arc
>MC's unfavored by life rival, goes berserk because MC is blocking him from achieving his misguided goals.
>No matter how hard he fights, MC just takes it head on and doesn't get a scratch. The jealously at the mountain MC became fuels him further.
>MC keeps being friendly to rival's chagrin.
>MC constantly has this non threatening smile and stance.
>MC just hugs him and gives him a feel good speech and tops it with a promise to always have his back.
>Rival breaks out of his state of mind and basically bawls until he passes out from exhaustion.
>During the award ceremony MC uses his time to make everyone in the audience and even his competitors feel better about themselves.
>>142382128
>How good truly is ISSTH? I've only read Doulou Dalou and Coiling Dragon (which writing declined horribly after the first few arcs, finished it anyways). I've read the first couple of chapters and by the synopsis and comments it sounds like the author repeats the same formula over and over and over.
I shall seal the heavens is fucking amazing.
It is a little slow to start (too much pill popping in the beginning, but he corrects that mistake pretty quickly). But no where near the 100 chapters that other /a/non talks about. It's written by a different author then the hacks who wrote Doulou Dalou and coiling dragon (actually coiling dragon does get better in the 2nd half but the author is definitely not good).
and Gen Er (the author of ISSTH) has a wicked sense of humor. He's also very patient with his jokes, and is willing to spend hundreds of pages building up to the punchlines of them.
Furthermore Ming Hao is perhaps one of the top 5 main characters in any novel i've read. Gen Er knows how to write a top class MC. He's so different from the MCs you usually see in xanxia or wuxia novels. It helps the translator team is actually pretty fucking good (better then the scrubs we get for the nip shit), sorta blows most WN/LN clean out of the water on every level.
>>142384458
But the Orsted in the current timeline doesn't recall bailing the fuck out of the previous timeline.
>>142374477
was there a need to make Eris so OP? All the way until the end I thought she was a goner, but she just kept getting stronger.
>>142384610
She had to replace cat tats
>>142384565
True, though I guess it might be that when bad end Rudy went back it reset the timeline for that, or something. Hitogami didn't seem to remember it either.
>>142384610
Do you not even power of love anon?
>>142384531
What's with people hating on Doulou Dalou? The story is pretty good and the characters all have their own goals. Is it because Tang is stupid OP?
>>142384531
>coiling dragon (actually coiling dragon does get better in the 2nd half but the author is definitely not good).
Eh. It was the novel that first got me into Xianxia but it's nothing more than mediocre. I Eat Tomatoes can't write interesting characters even if his cultivation base depended on it.
>tfw you've read some novels for so long that even though they are horrible you can't drop them
Why, ATG and MGAand to a lesser extent Stellar Transformation, why must you be so bad?
>>142384696
All the battle plays out like a video game and Tang isn't a very interesting MC.
I still read it from time to time though, but the translation is so slow.
>>142384565
I'd personally guess that Orsted was just trying to figure out what the bloody fuck was with this whacked out timeline before it was time to reset.
>>142382804
>I feel like from a historical perspective Dark Rudi would've been remembered on par with Laplace
no way in hell.
The dark version of rudy never made the top 7 powers list. people shit on non alt-history version of rudy, but you all forget he actually soloed the north god (and no, the north god was not "weakened"), something AT Rudy would never have managed.
The only reason real version rudy managed to win was because he finally stopped looking for a way out, and went into a battle 100% without an escape plan. The willingness to fight to the death with someone else was something that old rudy lacked.
He never even had that resolution when hitogami forced him into a battle with ordsted. As he had ejection seats and still was looking for a way to live even at the end of the battle.
>>142384531
>liking Meng Hao
The series does a really good job making him easy to relate to even though he basically turns into every other xianxia MC later on who is super aggressive and calculating. But thats kind of because everyone around him is a huge dick.
The story is fun as shit and gets better and better though. You can drop it around chapter 30 if you don't like it since thats pretty much as good as it gets as a series.
If you want something with more literary merit and world building, World of Cultivation is in a similar vein to ISSTH. I suggest anyone at all into xianxia get to chapter 10 at least because its one of those really deep stories that snowballs into itself and feels like a really good fantasy story.
>>142378749
>ISSTH
>bad
What'd you just say bitch?
>>142384696
they be hatin on his spiderman/batman grass powered swagger
Should've stayed with Eris, author was a fucking hack for pulling those stupid misunderstandings that ended up with Rudy getting ED.
Roxy was alright, but Sylphy was so fucking boring. Eris was truly the best wife and the one that should've won Rudy for herself alone.
>>142384859
>World of Cultivation
I've never heard of this novel before. Got any other you'd recommend? I've already checked out every single one on wuxiaworld
>>142384881
That your overwanked chinese shit smells.
>>142384466
He showed up during the battle with Patriarch Reliance at the end of first book (I think he was the one who tanked the turtle's attempt to step on Meng Hao), he then showed up again during the Song clan's groom search and again in the southern domain
I think we know what the better one is desu-wa.
>>142385116
Why is Satou not tapping this? Is he stupid?
>>142385047
I thought Zhou Dekun was the Violet Furnace Lord that Meng became bros with?
>>142384696
>What's with people hating on Doulou Dalou?
it's dull-> don't get me wrong there is some fun in the series, but it's rare and far apart. ATG started out good, but then it really lost it's way. Hard to find a better start to a bad series. Right around the time he comes back from the demon prison the series tanks so hard it makes me wish i hadn't touched it.
>>142385195
Satou prefers older women. He's waiting for everyone to grow up first apparently. Which is silly, because most of the ones that want to bone him are like 16ish.
>>142379884
Thanks for the heads up mate.
Time to support the official release.
>>142384859
>though he basically turns into every other xianxia MC later on who is super aggressive and calculating
not really. he just learns to kill problems before they get worse. What else is he supposed to do when there are so many comically evil villains in xanxia novels?
>>142381937
Speaking of which, was the last thread deleted?
>>142385420
Yes.
Next Kumo novel, July 9.
First Kumo manga tank, July 7.
>>142385196
yes, Zhou Dekun is the old fuddy duddy furnace lord best bro that meng hao meets. but the question was about the Blood demon patriach
The blood demon patriarch shows up a number of times in throughout the books. the difference between him and that 10th generation Wang clan bastard is he's never shown scheming in the background like some top level typical xanxia criminal. So I think people sorta forgot about him
>>142384918
Everything else by the author of World of Cultivation, Fang Xiang.
Have you tried Ze Tian Ji/Way of Choices? It's great if you're looking for an MC that isn't a pill popping murder hobo.
Actually, it's just great in general, unless you're looking for constant powerups. Also, he doesn't manage to cultivate until like 120 chapters in.
Can someone give me a tl;dr of the story after the pax shirone arc? I dropped it out of boredom
>>142383007
>implying gooky NEETs can actually achieve anything
>>142385116
aw yeah. Comfy read the WN.
>>142385116
I can't stand the MC in this.
Same reason why I also dropped MT.
>>142385713
There is nothing wrong with Satou or Rudi.
>>142385903
She's trying too hard to get into his pants.
>>142385903
Goddammit why are you forcing me to read it? I didn't want to pick it up but if you insist to much.
>>142382038
Could use an answer if anyone knows.
>>142385948
To be fair, she knows she has a lot of competition.
>>142385948
It has to work eventually. Slowly but surely.
>>142386114
Seven Seas only licensed the manga.
>>142385420
That looks pretty lewd, what is this?
>eventually it shall happen
You know I really want to read Flame Ring but this is just wow at this point.
>>142386387
I haven't read Flame Ring yet, what's wrong with the series?
Anyone reading this? His self loathing tendencies seems to get toned down and it's revealed that he had sex with the sage back in the days. No wonder he seems familiar with women
>>142386480
The translation speed.
What's the lewdest good LN?
>>142386512
I read it but I wish the translator finished Kuro no Maou first before trying to find other web novels to translate
>>142386370
Horizon.
Still no 9-B preview.
>>142386512
I do, it's fun so far, he's like a crotchety old man though.
>>142386566
Do you want it Rated 18 or not Rated 18?
Are there any other good LNs that follow the character from childhood to adult cause the one thing I really liked about Tensei is seeing Rudy grow
>tfw no Otherworld Dining Hall translations
>>142386603
Rated 18 if possible.
>>142386566
Asuka of the Scarlet Sky? Kinda.
>>142386612
There's that breastfeeding LN but author got forced to change the breastfeeding to just breast groping instead by the web novel site.
But if you want childhood to adult, there is Parallel World Pharmacy which I find more enjoyable to read than MT because even though MC is more hax than Tatsuya Shiba, MC is only concerned with making medicine and the antagonists in Parallel World Pharmacy is mainly Disease and Medical Quacks selling poison as medicine.
>>142386700
>Asuka of the Scarlet Sky
>>142386730
All is well in the LN.
>>142386700
Eh. Asuka of the scarlet sky has a tendency for people to get bored of the nonstop sex scenes really quickly and start skipping/skimming entire chapters to try and get to the parts with actual plot before ignoring another 30 chapters about MC's armpit hair fetish.
>>142386677
Most translators of Rated 18 Web Novels frequently quit or go on hiatus, though.
Only js06 remains consistent in translating and releasing Rated 18 stories.
>>142383596
Angel Densetsu?
...sort of
>>142386700
>Asuka of the Scarlet Sky
>First tag is Anal Intercourse.
>The rest of the tags
>>142386895
Yup, good times.
>>142386677
Inma no Hado but be warned, it is your typical evil demon rape story which you typically find in doujins that feature male demons or incubus but it did get a VN adaption.
I just suggest it based on the fact it has an active translator since most Rated 18 novel translators quit before translating the whole story.
>>142381650
I'm surprised he goes for the harem even after his dad's infidelity nearly ruined his family.
>>142386832
Really? I do exactly the opposite.
>>142386730
>>142386817
What is the name of that LN?
>>142386612
I've got none but this LN centres around the MC raising a qt little demon girl. The translations haven't go that far though. The title is : Uchi no Musume no Tame naraba, Ore wa Moshikashitara Maou mo Taoseru kamo Shirenai.
>>142387526
Communication Disorder.
That manga with the super long Anna title was a pretty good reincarnation/time slip. The guy was a total asshole and at first it was good but he went completely off the deep end and then there was multiple parallel time travel shit.
Also the Rapemancer manga where the bus crash victims and MC get reincarnated into a fantasy world is good for the lewd.
I enjoyed The Girl who Ate a Death God way more than MT, though.
>>142387469
I'm only at the part after he meets his dad again after the teleporting stuff, but that cheating thing with the dad was kinda messed up. First his dad rapes the maid then hires the same maid, then Rudy convinces Zenith to accept the maid as part of the family.
>>142387897
Probably because it had a story it wanted to tell and told it without taking a million years to do so.
>>142387473
The meido blowjobs are still great and all but everything else degenerates into 'ok, I've read this same scene 15 times in a row already.'
>>142387469
Rudy has always been an idiot.It took being kicked out of his home after being caught jacking off to his niece during his parent's funeral and dying for him to figure out he should try to better himself. It's up for debate how much he actually improved as a person.
At least his mom beat the shit out of him for expanding the harem yet again that one time.
>>142387897
>>142387957
Probably because the story was more well-written.
>>142380300
Meng Hao falls into the same Gary Stu bullshit that other lightnovels have. He is always the most perfect person for whatever challenge or task is there. Fuck he would probably surpass perfection and reach Oni Sama level if that were even possible.
DEUS LO VULT, /a/!
Before I get invested into this, is the romance for this any good? Particularly Roxy.
Or is it just he wins them over easily and early and after a needlessly long delay they get together for real?
>>142388096
>Gary Stu MC
>Beat up by a vegetable
>>142388484
read it
>>142388581
I wonder if anon means reborn life mom.
>>142388484
The romance is shit.1. Father forces them apart.
2. Leaves him for her own training.
3. Bullshit forces them apart.
1. They meet after a long time and get married after some bullshit.
2. They meet after a long time and she gets into the family after some bullshit.
3. Gets the worst treatment and gets into the family just to have her character completely ruined.
>>142388484
Each relationship has its own arc and ultimate consummation. None of them felt arbitrary.
>>142386677
Loli Manko is a Rated 18 Web Novel with the best Title and Story Description.
>>142388581
>"what do you mean she's not a vegetable?"
>"what do you mean Lara has been talking to her everyday?"
>"what do you mean she's telepathic?"
>don't hire a telepathic interpretator so she can actually talk to someone other than an infant
>>142388484
the roxy romance is good, until it isn't
the selphie romance starts out creepy as fuck, and they NEVER acknowledge how creepy it is. then it gets harem-shit, and both romances are retarded
>>142388881
>sylphie romance is creepy as fuck but the Roxy romance somehow isn't even though Roxy basically did the same thing Rudy tried to do with Sylphie
>>142388975
It's okay when woman does it.
It's getting a digital release.
The temptation to buy it was never this big.
>>142389087
Wondering when we'll get to Sakura's hidden agenda, never trust a voice in your head.
>>142388881seriously, why doesn't rudi, or anyone, ever bring up that he's over 40-50 for these relationships with these 5-15 year olds? it would have been an interesting question to bring up. when selphie's father and his new father are like, "We're afraid you're brainwashing this little girl", that would have been interesting to explore, instead of dropped completely
>>142389227
Roxy was the same mental age as him though.
I'll never understood how people find the whole "guy reincarnates and seduces someone equal to his new age" thing weird. They reincarnated fair and square, the age difference is gone.
>>142389157
I'd have probably started to trust the voice as well in her situation.
>>142389321
Because it's a mental oji-san grooming a fucking toddler into being his wife.
>>142388783
what?
The only romance worth a damn in MT was Eris.
Sylphy just had a childhood crush because she was treated nice and it was stupid as fuck because she was like 10.
Roxy was the first girl Rudeus got familiar with and taught him magic and the power of going outside before fucking leaving him until Rudeus is like 17 and she's saved by him, she later gives him a "Dad just died" pity fuck and then she's just like. "I won't do any better than you, I don't mind being third place in your harem."
Eris is where it's at; it took a life and death situation just to get her to listen to him and actually let him do his job and later it developed over 2 years while they were trying to survive in that world's version of Australia, the author played all that shit down by making her leave and shoving a harem down our throats.
Eris a best
>>142387609Usagi drop RPG version
>>142389321
because not once is it ever considered. i know they do it because it's an unpleasant thought and you don't want that to ruin your power fantasy sex with hot teenagers, but at least once it would be cool for someone to think, "Actually, this is pretty fucked up"
even if they change their mind after, or get convinced some other way
>>142389468
Last I checked laws never gave a shit about "mental age".
Also how exactly is that any different from any guardian grooming their children to be good wives/husbands to anyone else? It's not like Rudi for instance was leading anyone down a path their parents disapproved of.
>>142389568
>It's not like Rudi for instance was leading anyone down a path their parents disapproved of
Except both Paul and Rauls quite clearly disapproved.
>>142389468
they specifically tell rudeus, "we think you're brainwashing selphie"
rudeus is never like, yeah, grooming a child into being my wife is some cult-like shit
rudeus is like "she should learn to be independent"
like okay, but there's something more serious they're worried about, you fuck
>>142389568
>It's not like Rudi for instance was leading anyone down a path their parents disapproved of.
Like fucking one'saunt?
>>142389538
>muh feelings
I suggest you spend less time on tumblr and more time practicing your grammar.
>>142389640
They never said he was brainwashing Sylphy.
They said they were becoming too dependent on each other.
Big difference. Rudy hadn't actually done anything shady as of yet, he was only thinking about it. Paul would've been perfectly fine with what Rudy was doing if Sylphy wasn't so ridiculously dependent on him in the first place.
Reminder that Elinalise is hundreds of years old and joined the magic academy specifically to prey on young schoolboys.
>>142389640
>they specifically tell rudeus, "we think you're brainwashing selphie"
[citation needed]
>>142389730
it's not about "feelings", it's ignoring the obvious dark implications
I just thought it'd be cool if he actually thought about it more than not at all
>>142389795
That anon was terrible at writing, but rather than saying he was brainwashing her, they said that the two were becoming far too dependent on each other.
>/a/ suddenly hates the Hikaru Genji plan
What the fuck happened?
>>142389821
It is about feelings when your only argument in favor of these "dark implications" existing is "wow this is like, totally gross you know".
>>142389821
You're expecting too much from a manchild hikki-NEET.
Douluo Dalu feels weird reading each version
DD everyone one knows starts off with people against people
DD2 is about people with artillery against people, Also a top secret Mecha suit
DD3 went pure gundam. and all the animals are dead
Anyone who wants to read the manhua DD2, please take note of this picture before going in.
>>142389681
I thought it was weird that Rudi didn't have any attraction to anyone he was related to. He never met his Aunt before and automatically felt nothing despite seeing how attractive she is when they met the first time.
>>142389852
It's June. You know what that means.
>>142389879
yeah, that would've been cool if he thought, "wow this is like, totally gross you know" for a second. he's already a creepy guy, why not have him realize he's disgusting, or that he could be, and then not care
>>142389924
http://pastebin.com/g8zUbRSE
>>142389924
You'd figure Laplace would have the foresight to program incest-encouraging instincts into his Factor to ensure it gets passed on but apparently not. It just gives you fuckloads of mana and green hair because fuck you.
>>142389986
Someone having a different outlook than me? Femin save us, this is exactly like being raped!
>muh reincarnation into fantasy
>muh op cheatlike abilities
>muh nonsensical harem
>muh hardships that are easily overcome
Please try reading something better than the standard.
Like reika-sama
>>142390094
Looks gay.
>>142389852
I'm more in favor of the young one making the moves but that's just preference.
>>142390057
i don't know what you mean by this since that has nothing to do with anything i said.
whether you think fucking children as a 50 year old man is wrong, or you think his age is reset and it's fair now that he's biologically 12, wouldn't it be interesting if he asked that question?
if he thinks it doesn't matter because he was reborn, cool, and hey he addressed this morality question
if he thinks he's depraved because his mental age is different, yet doesn't care because little girls feel good, that's even more interesting. i would have even liked him better as a character for being a dirtbag and admitting it
stop being so defensive over your power fantasy, anon
Funny how Kumo basically did the complete opposite of Rudy.
Instead of grooming a waifu, she groomed a vampire daughteru into an OP killing machine. Who was the same age as heroriginal and actually way older than Kumo herself.
>>142390226
The fact that he never asked it answers the question for you, you oversensitive loon.
>>142390094
MT only has the reincarnation and the harem, and it's success is the one at fault we're full of these stories in the first place.
>>142390285
but wouldn't it been more hype if he did ask? the reason he didn't ask is because that would ruin it for japanese teenage boys reading this and going, "i don't wanna think about that shit, tell me how they promise to wait until they're 15 and he enjoys his waifu"
but it would have been even more compelling to ask, than to consider his primary audience (okay that itself would be retarded, still though)
>>142390418
Nice opinions.
>>142384610
She wasn't all that OP, she just had a chance to learn under a bunch of world rankers and contenders. Ghyslaine alone was near Emperor level, and Gul Farion already implied Eris was Emperor level to begin with when he gave her the license of mastery, which not even his other students had.
She was always talented, her original time line however never gave her the chance to improve herself to such lengths.
But that's all she is, even if she ever reached God-rank, she would be lower than the likes of genuine geniuses like Jino Blitz, and Aleksander Ryback III, let alone Orsted.
Besides, people are looking at Rudi the wrong way. His strength is in how he is capable of dabbling in everything, while Eris was solely focused on one area, two if you count fucking.
People are just being retarded and ignoring that life has much more than just your fighting min/max stats. Rudi is very OP in that regard but mainly cause it's an Isekai and he worked rather hard for a former neet.
Is there an LN/WN about a fantasy character dying and being reincarnated into the real world?
>>142387897
Read the first few chapters so far and couldn't get into it yet. Does it reach a point where every chapter isn't 80% world building and a small amount of shinigami girl?
>>142390418
>but wouldn't it been more hype if he did ask?
No, not really.
>>142389849
That's my point. He's misquoting the story to suit his narrative because he's full of shit. Brainwashing and codependency are two completely different things.
>>142390247
Considering she was aspiderpretty much all the other reincarnators were older than her
>>142379452
She's marginally taller and bigger, I don't know how you could be so blind to that, even her facial structure got less round.
>>142380614
Then do it, stop making excuses. If you're that good, you'llfind a way.
Put up or shut up.
>>142390645From Sylphy's viewpoint, Rudeus must be a prince charming who rescued her from a hell-like childhood. Teaching her various things like an older brother, and finally realizing their difference in gender. Rawls also said, if Rudeus can win her over it will be for the best.
I also thought that having such a cute kid as a daughter in law wouldn't be bad, but when I listened to Rudeus today I changed my mind.
Right now the situation is about the level of brainwashing.
they don't tell rudeus they suspect him of brainwashing, but they suspect him of brainwashing
the morality question about romance is more interesting than whatever answer they come up with. the story works either way, a romance between a 50 year old and a child is wrong, or chill we're both 5. it literally doesn't matter which way they go, because guess what? there's still 3 volumes about limp dick
shit's trash
>>142390486
>mainly cause it's an Isekai and he worked rather hard for a former neet.
That's one thing that always bugged me about Rudi, he pretty much left behind all the baggage from his past life instantly. Umareru was great specifically because the protagonist's inner demons never left him even after reincarnation (and arguably got even worse).
>>142390488
Why would anyone want that?
The real world is shit and boring thanks to all the bureaucracy and laws, though it does keep order and safety to a stable degree.
>Adventurer dies, gets reborn into 21 century Japan.
>Forever chronically depressed because of the limitations his new body has and the lack of both magic, monsters and other races.
>Becomes a shut-in. will die cold and alone amid a mountain of garbage, anime merch and dakis, cursing this bleak world.
Or
>Hero dies, gets reborn into 21 century Japan.
>Sad because he misses his harem, but still undaunting in his thirst for life.
>Goes to school. Joins a Kendo club and BTFO of everyone with past sword fighting knowledge.
>Girls show interest.
>Polygamy is illegal.
>Goes pro with his Kendo shit.
>Later opens a Dojo with his earnings.
>It goes under because who the hell cares?
>Forced to become a salaryman and have his soul completely crushed...
This shit is just sad man.
>>142388445
It's a shame more people aren't helping out, not that I'd have any right to complain. Chapter 3 was the best by far since it constantly switched POV.
>>142391067
What if he/she gets to keep his magic?
>>142390980
>the level of
wew
>they suspect him of brainwashing
[citation needed]
>>142389852
The ones who like it keep quiet, the ones who don't sperg out. How do you not know this simple rule that applies to all of the internet, and most of real life?
>>142388581
She was so platinum mad she gained the power to physically beat the crap out of him despite being a vegetable from sheer rage .
>>142390980
>a romance between a 50 year old and a child is wrong
Good thing he wasn't 50 years old.
>>142391038
Well, Rudeus got to reincarnate into a different body.
>>142391151
If only he learned his lesson
>>142391123
It is useless. Most the the magic can be solved by technology
>>142391038
>That's one thing that always bugged me about Rudi, he pretty much left behind all the baggage from his past life instantly.
That's not true at all, but I understand where you are coming from. He didn't leave the baggage behind, he intentionally chose to ignore it. He HATED his past life, and took many steps to ignore it and constantly use it as a reminder to work harder.
The biggest example of this coming back and the story forcing him to face his past is Paul's death, and you can't fucking deny that at all given how hard it's spoon fed. He's not like Ainz, where he had some form of attachment, he's still been running on 'escapism' mode the whole time, just that he was productive about it.
It's only after Paul's death that he started actually paying attention to his baggage in the past, and that comes in the form of Nanahoshi and how he helps her, and writes a letter to his parents for her to take to their own world.
Another more subtle instance is how despite him literally fapping to his loli niece in the original WN in chapter 1, his body no longer feels a damn thing for family members. That's part of his trauma, though unlike the other issues I've mentioned, he never realizes it and that's actually realistic. A person shouldn't always know everything about their baggage, nor be able to address it over their life time no matter how much they pay attention to themselves. Plus it wasn't hindering him, so he didn't pay it much attention.
It wasn't plentiful, and it wasn't spoon fed to you all the time, that's definitely true. But it was addressed slowly. Whether the ratio is enough for a particular reader is merely subjective.
>>142391308
There is also evil scientisto to worry about.
But seriously it's obvious this is a boring world to be reborn into
>>142390488
There's one where they find out that our world is not the real world and is instead a fantasy world that the 'real' people play like a VR game by hijacking bodies for a dungeon/battleground event.
Not even a hundred chapters of Gate of Revelation translated yet though.
>>142390488
Not reincarnation, but there is Maou Burger
What is the goddamn Kumo author doing.
Isn't she done with her new book.
Where's our new WN chapter.
Editing the WN for commercial release can't be that taxing.
>>142391255
Yeah, Rudeus got a completely different deck of cards. He got to not only leave behind his old life, but also leave behind his world as well, and a very fortuitous living situation on top of that. Kazuya on the other hand merely reincarnated back to the exact period of life that fucked him up in the first place.
It's understandable that they're different, I just find Kazuya's situation thematically a lot more interesting because his reincarnation is the exact opposite of an escape from his problems.
>>142391345
While it was there, I think that it played a much lighter role in his character than it could have been. Both Rudi and Kazuya were completely rock bottom when they reincarnated, hated by society, psychologically a complete mess, living in a hell of their own making. The condition of their past life makes it completely reasonable to conclude they're broken people, much moreso than a typical protagonist, who would have terrible difficulties even if given a second opportunity. With Rudi things simply went too smoothly, they got better too conveniently, and that is what makes it a wish-fulfillment story, not even the setting or the premise. His past life, frankly, played a very small part in the overall narrative. Him eventually acknowledging his past and "resolving" only becomes an extension of that when it's that easy no matter how much you throw in a "he worked so hard because of his past life" to justify it.
>>142391979
Anon, both stories are wish fulfillment stories.
>>142390009
This made me depressed. Is there another part after this? One where they make up hopefully?
>>142392091
We already knows what happens afterwards. Ars grows up to be the dutiful son who just happens to be married to his aunt. It's Sieg that ends up the problem child.
You know what was fucking retarded about MT's epilogue?
Norn marrying Rujierd. In the old timeline. It's so fucking contrived for her to end up meeting Rujierd and falling in love with her in a timeline where Rudy didn't exist.
>>142392086
Have you even read it?
Who do you hate more, Norn or Aisha?
>>142392336
Aisha is a shotacon predator.
>>142391979
>While it was there, I think that it played a much lighter role in his character than it could have been.
I won't deny that, but I don't think it was meant to be. A lot of the story is contradictory, kinda like life. And for the most part, it was about focusing on growth and the future, so naturally the past had to be put on the back burner you know?
I personally don't think he was all that special due to his past life, compared to other Isekai MCs at least. But I do acknowledge that the series constantly reiterates that his past life trauma is what drives him for the most part, and no where is it actually that strong on his psyche. After all he constantly relaxes his guard, constantly gets full of himself, yada yada.
He doesn't actually change all that much from his past life other than trying to change. He makes an attempt to change, but the change if looked at objectively, isn't much compared to anyone else in his position if they had to go through his past life.
That to me, is refreshing because he's ultimately incompetent down to the core. Like the other anon said, Isekai novels aren't about people becoming better, it's just an MC cheating the system.
Rudi understands this at heart, because he always reminds himself he's average, he's a nobody, yada yada. But at the same time he doesn't wanna shut off any potential future in store for him by being negative, so he tries to be grateful, and earnest.
A lot of people on /a/ hate him because he's too modest for how OP he is, constantly making remarks about how they would do things differently but in the end, Rudi understands he's still a loser, he's just lucky. But the true change is that he now understands deeply that luck only favors the bold so to speak.
That said it has nothing to do with your complain that it's wish fulfillment, because it IS. It was practically spoon fed to the reader that it's meant to be this way, no different than say, Knights and Magic.
>>142384485
What is OnePunchMan?
What is Mob Psycho 100?
>>142392302
wait, you said Kazuya, thought you said Kazuma, nevermind.
I doubt it's not a wish fulfillment story though, whatever you were talking about
>>142392091
Working on it >>142376233
>>142379004
>>142374128
retard alert
>>142384610
all the wives are OP
way the series handles the harems kinda reminds me of Tenchi
>harem are stronger than the MC
>harem moves the plot more than the MC
>MC actually marries and fucks the harem making them more like a harem
>>142390486
>Besides, people are looking at Rudi the wrong way. His strength is in how he is capable of dabbling in everything, while Eris was solely focused on one area, two if you count fucking.
that basically just makes Rudi a jack of all trades master of none
>>142392873
It's definitely not wish fulfillment. The protagonist is a gigantic scumbag though.
>>142392584
I'm not denying that he has characterization, I'm just saying that characterization is no replacement for actual conflict. MT suffers from the exact same issue as nearly every other wish fulfillment story in that there's almost no actual character conflict.
>>142389777
It's different for elves and getting dicked is a matter of survival for her.
>>142379384
No I want to read a series all about a guy that gets reborned back to when he was a kid and use his new game+ to cheat the system completely
So I'm reading Transcending the nine heavens and Zhanxian
Chu Yang is also a creepy lolicon bastard but at least the series makes fun of him for it.
>>142393526
Indeed, that's basically what he is. He's not about having resolve, pushing past his limits, etc etc. He's about using every possible method to stack the odds in his favor, even if he's not specialized in any of them.
I mean you can argue his mana pool is #1, or his rock bullet is #1, but that's rather trivial no different than saying Zanoba is the #1 doll fetishist.
>>142393719
>can bang lolis as a shota and nobody cares
>get reincarnated
>suddenly not supposed to bang lolis as a shota
Not living your life correctly.
>>142378868
>>142384881
never gotten into ISSTH
read the first arc and if kinda seemed generic
when does the series get good?
>>142389852
They dislike Rudeus enough that they're willing to acknowledge how creepy he actually is and he is sort of supposed to be trying to not have all of the bad otaku habits he used to instead of going full throttle.
>>142393800
Chu Yang was a teenager wanting to bang a 9 year old
so unlike Nie Li and Rudi who were the same age as the lolis Chu Yang gets weird looks even after rebirth.
How do Light Novels produce Lina Inverse in the fucking 90s then somehow make someone like Rudy in 2016?
Like Jesus what the fuck happened to the fantasy genre?
>>142390094
just wish Reika wasn't so beta
canon Reika would've flatten that gyaru bitch in a heartbeat.
>>142393577
>MT suffers from the exact same issue as nearly every other wish fulfillment story in that there's almost no actual character conflict.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, it suffers certainly, but it was probably meant to be that way. You're looking for something that was never meant to be there, like trying to find romance on a Saturday morning cartoon.
Way I see it, MT is good enough that you guys are imposing what you want in a story onto it, thinking "this is how the story should be" instead of thinking "is this what the story was even made for?". That alone should serve as testament to how successful the series is when people are pushing their own desires and expectations onto it.
I mean come on, it's /a/ a board full of neets and weebs. Is it any wonder an Isekai story will be heavily scrutinized because it doesn't conform to every faggots personal golden ratio, especially when it was most of the board's first big Isekai story?
Like if you want character conflict, I'd probably look for it in something like Rakuen no Monshou instead. Just because Mushoku Tensei dabbled in it a bit doesn't mean it was designed to focus on it, just like Rudi.
I have plenty of complaints about the series myself, but most of them are like yours, it just wouldn't be the same story if it was changed that way.
>>142389852
More like pic related.
>>142378555
it's still better than most to all reincarnation WNs out there
granted that's not saying much but still
Also plus for having side characters that actually have characters outside of being the MC's cheerleaders (again pretty impressive for a reincarnation WN).
>>142393913
Cause people got bored of the Lina Inverse types. Might be different if the LN didn't end on such a shitty note but apologists will defend it harder than LOGHfags defend how incompetent every authority figure was.
>>142390206
Part 3 is up
>>142393881
In the first volume
I mean he kinda develops out of it
>>142390486
Wrong.
Rudi's strength is in his friends, as cliche as that sounds.
>>142393972
MT is scrutinized because it's well known, not because it's good. It's the exact same situation as with something like SAO.
>>142377130
Why is the detective such a stud?
>>142378381
IT'S BEEN 2 MONTHS, PIELORD
WHERE ARE THE CHAPTERS?
>>142393952
She was trying to purposefully be beta for almost a decade to avoid what she knew would happen otherwise. At this point it's probably too much of a habit.
>>142394101
Not really. As another anon pointed out he really didn't actually improve much outside of deciding to try and improve. He's just slightly better than before and in a family publicly considered by everyone else to be sick fucks so they don't find anything he might do to be unusual.
>>142394109
Not really cliche at all with how it was used
The problem with "power of friendship" is that it has nothing to do with the friends at all. MC does all the work and beats all the antagonists, the "friends" are just a cheering squad that's only there for moral support.
MC's friends actually pull their weight, has strength Rudi usually lacks, coordinate well with Rudi, and at times are even more capable than Rudi. MT has actual teamwork rather than just the MC shouting "I have my friends so I can beat you"
>>142377130
Poor guy will never be free of his loliharem, though at least he hasn't lost his job yet despite being chased around by a half naked degenerate
>no new Kumo Desu Ga chapters ever
Just finished this other day and felt like recommending it.
Reincarnation story where a high achiever type girl unloved by her parents dies because she missed the red light going off and gets reincarnated into a fantasy world as a poor village girl with all her knowledge. Throughout the story she tries to better the lives of the people around her by peppering their undeveloped and overly dependent on magic nobles culture with some basic farming, cooking and mechanical know how she had to go on. Things still don't go smoothly though asshe gets sold off by her parents, made a wageless servant for a noble family, becomes engaged a much older man, kidnapped by bandits, goes through stockholm syndrome and is forced to split off from her bandit family for the sake of their big plan. Not quite as dark as that sounds since she does find good things to help her through them. First book goes up to her 10th year and it seems like it's leading up to her playing a big role as anunwilling cult figurein a revolution that's bubbling up with common folk and non-magical nobles.
It's called 転生少女の履歴書, The Reincarnated Girl's Resume. Fairly easy prose since it's all written in the girl's pov and the girl herself is quite sympathetic with her abandonment and overpragmatism issues. Reads like a WN that had some bits cut out for an LN and doesn't feel like otome type series it appears to be with all the illustrations of studs the book has.
This thread is in serious need of more Yuusha.
>>142380525
>>142381083
I fucking hated blood sign, js06 did too.
>>142381937
Also erotic light novels.
>>142393526
That was one of my favorite parts about the series. He actually fights like a mage by using crowd control to maintain his optimal distance.
>>142385903
She's break in half with his dick.
>>142394266
No Reika even says she's a natural coward.
but still Reika was only doomed because she was fucking with the emperor's gf, said emperor doesn't even like the gyaru there's no repercussions in crushing that bitch.though she'll probably deal with her next chapter.
>>142393972
The problem is that MT isn't an SOL where conflict is basically a non-factor, it sells itself as a fantasy/adventure series with actual, direct character conflict. The story itself actually has plenty of conflicts, they're just completely trivially resolved and ultimately end up being virtually pointless.
Furthermore, even SOL fans don't try to pretend their stories are anything but low-tier writing that serves the sole purpose of providing a vehicle for escapism.
I mean, if you're trying to say "MT really isn't trying to be a good, well-written story" then by all means I'm in agreement.
>>142394109
And how did he get those friends that walked all paths of life anon? Oh right, by dabbling all over the place.
Stop looking at things in a vacuum. Friends don't just magically exist.
>>142394293
>only 5 chapters translated
;_;
>>142394373
While that's true I meant it more like whatever natural cowardice she had has been enhanced by years of purposely being beta under threat of homelessness-->death.
>>142391038
>Umareru was great
Come the fuck on you fucking faggot.
It was the edgiest shit I've read in the last 6 years.
I mean, I don't even have a problem with edgy shit, as long as it is entertaining.
But this shit was just LE EDGY CRAWLING IN MY SKIN.
Kill yourself.
>>142394174
Not even close. No one scrutinizes SAO they just shit all over it. The SAOfags stay contained on their threads and never come to defend it whenever people bash so there's literally nothing to scrutinize because no one will ever challenge anyone shitting on it.
SAO is definitely bigger right now globally, but that has no merit in the context of /a/. Every one of you basically puts SAO as beneath you.
>>142390094
I wish someone actually continued Burriko
I'm probably the only one that likes the Camille's and Achille's relationship.
>>142394406
>not creating your friends with magic
Are you even a wizard?
>>142378795
>>142378754
>>142378742
was going to disagree but I found my head nodding
still better than most (especially the ones with male MCs).
>>142394282
His superior literally gave him an office and manipulated stuff so he can work with harem. With such encouragement from higher ups, I believe his job is safe.
>>142394324
That's not true. js06 said it had more to do with Kyousuke being his least favorite Kamachi protag, but that he got used to him from volume 2 onwards and that's when he resumed translations.
>>142394501
You evidently weren't around when it was first being brought up. It got a chance, just SnK and DanMachi did.
>>142394644
>encouragement
More like trying to put him in a situation where he'll fuck one of them.
FUCKING HELL KAMACHI
WHY CAN'T YOU WRITE AT LEAST 3 VOLUMES OF HIM SOLVING CASES WITH HIS NEW TEAM?
THEN 4 VOLUMES ALL ABOUT THE HISHIGAMI FAMILY.
THEN A VOLUME WITH YUKARI TAKING CARE OF HER BABIES.
>>142394404
>I mean, if you're trying to say "MT really isn't trying to be a good, well-written story" then by all means I'm in agreement.
That is exactly what I'm trying to say man. It's pretty shameless about it so I've always found it weird how people find it so hard to accept despite everyone accepting SAO and friends as guilty pleasures at best.
It just happens to have certain aspects and parts to it that is really appealing, bordering well written give or take subjectivity.
Anyone with common sense that wasn't completely immersed in the story and detached enough to analyze the story could tell you within the first 100 chapters that Rudi displays a bit too much knowledge for a guy who dropped out of middle school and spent roughly 10+ years being a NEET/Otaku.
There's no fucking way a guy like that can remember every math formula he learned back then when he never uses it. That's not how the 'average' person's brain works. You don't retain what you don't use for over a decade.
>>142394498
So do you have an actual argument or did you just come here to shitpost?
>>142394571
>Fucked Eris before he even hit 15
>Becoming a wizard
He never had a chance, he's stuck being a magician.
Right now looking forward to more chapters of Strongest Marital Bro
>reincarnated as the sect leaders son with all the money, power, and influence at your disposal
>however previous owner of the body NTR'd the resident OPMC Xianxia and he's coming to kick your ass
wat do?
>>142394761
Edgy for the sake of edgy, literally not one likable character, MC being completely fucking retarded, WAH SHOCK VALUE! bullshit, terrible ending.
>>142394695
SAO didn't exactly exist like ten years before MT anon. The difference is that SAO became what it is today to /a/, while people still ramble about MT with silly expectations on their headcanons.
Plus, this is mostly a white guy board if those charts were correct. Why does it not make sense people care more about an MC who is a white guy stuck in a fantasy world and was only a nip in his past life, a lot more self-insertable than the japanesiest dual wielding blacked swordsman that is stuck in a vidya game?
Or do you think Overlord will become niche on /a/ and contained in 5 years?
>>142394808
It probably carries over based on your past life. He successfully attained wizardry in his first life, so he got a ridiculously easy life as Rudi once he died. Once he dies as Rudi he'll reincarnate as another miserable NEET, or maybe an earthworm, because he used his success to become a filthy normalfag with a harem.
Alright, to the anon that recommended Gentle Demon, fuck you, it was so fucking good and now I have to wait a week for another chapter "maybe".
>>142393719
at least Zhanxian seems to imply that the love interest the MC is aiming for is a christmas cake
>>142380254
>MC's scabbard is a rapier's
>The sword is curved
???
>>142394432
Oh so I was right about it being a WN first. Translations are only up to the first quarter of the LN too. Seems like they rewrote quite a bit for the LN though since Ryou's thoughts about her being sold off is more detailed and much more heartbreaking:
>...no more. I'll just stop thinking. What's done is done and I can't do anything to change that. From now on, I'll be alone and live just to die, like mud. There's nothing else for me after all. I'll never be able to get what I truly want no matter what I do.
>>142388858
yeah but is the series good?
>>142394869
>Edgy for the sake of edgy
[citation needed]
>literally not one likable character
Ikumi. Early on also has Kyou, Kazuya, and Anna.
>MC being completely fucking retarded
When was he more incompetent than could be attributed to him based on his background?
>WAH SHOCK VALUE!
See first response.
>bullshit, terrible ending.
In what way?
>>142395165
Did you even read the manga you fucking mongoloid piece of human waste?
It was the crappiest manga made in years, it's a miracle it lasted more than 10 chapters.
>>142395255
Looks like it's shitposting after all.
>>142395328
That was already discussed to death and raped like the girls in the manga when the chapters were being translated, why the fuck would I go back to that just because you only recently started talking about it?
Look at the archives, only literal edgelords liked it.
>>142394987
Thanks and I recommended to an anon that clearly knew how to read Japanese specifically because he wouldn't have that exact problem like I'm now having.
I don't know if Warlock of the Magus World is trying to make fun of morals or not
>MC kills guy who was revealed to be a pedo
>chapter immediately after is about him abducting a loli for his experiments
I didn't even have a problem when they revealed the guy that was killed had a thing for little girls, the apprentice clearly wanted the D and the family were glad that "being a loli" was the only requirement for apprenticeship.
>>142395396
>I don't want to discuss this manga anymore
>but I sure as hell am going to shitpost about it
>>142395453
How is it shitposting when it's just me saying how fucking terrible that manga you like is.
>>142394938
I stand corrected then. It all makes sense now. No wonder Sylphy and Roxy dies a loli cake in the original time line.
Why didn't I see this before?
>>142395492
When you don't have any argument to back up your hot opinions, it's shitposting.
>>142395542
When your reply is
>Nuh-uh! I-it ain't edgy for the sake of edgy!
Then what I'm actually reading from you is
>This manga is as dark as my soul, it's a masterpiece of enlightened individuals such as myself, the way Kazuya bashed the tomboy's head reminded me of my own childhood. Oh Kazuya, you're my role-model.
>>142395615
Who are you quoting?
>>142395615
The tomboy was the only character I actually liked in the series.
>>142394744
Rather than doing the fucking he's most likely going to be gang-raped.
>>142374128
>why is Rudeus so shit?
I hate when he shill pushing ""read this boring monologue when was NEET in my past life"
>>142395542
There's many things wrong with that manga:
1. What is with the whole time travel? What is the point? Why was it only him? What are the mechanics? Was it all just something for him to take advantage of and if so, why is his rape baby taken back then?
2. Personality. He devolved into a villain that only thinks with his dick. Don't tell me that makes him alpha (it does not). It makes him into a piece of unredeemable shit character that only cares about sex. Nothing complex, just one-dimensional evil villain with nothing to care or respect about.
3. Killing off the people only created more shitty development out of nowhere and only added more to how irredeemable aspects to the mc to where there is no sympathy and depth.
4. What is the theme? What is the point? Why am I watching a guy think with his dick when I could watch hentai for that and still be worth a fap than this?
Piece of shit of a manga. Also, I am not the anon you are talking to.
Why does every LN thread start off with bait shit. It's like /a/ only starts talking if they bitch, reminds me of my inlaws.
>>142395815
The tomboy got a positive portrayal in the timeline we saw, but she was one of the main reasons his childhood was so fucked up. She's very similar to Kyou where she liked him as a person but was too oblivious (and implicitly self-centered) to ever be a positive influence in his life.
>>142396098
It doesn't matter, her character or her death had no influence in the end. No pay off from having her around in the story. No silver lining behind her death other than realizing that the mc is nothing more than a shit stain.
>>142396098
She was destined to get knocked up early on and have a shit ton of kids. Really feel bad for those types of people, being born with the slut disease.
>>142378488
Oh shit I thought I was the only one having the issue. good to know it isn't.
>>142396270
>slut
>only ever loved one guy
>>142396337
>love
Love for dick most likely.
>>142389227
Because age difference means jack shit in fantasy (and pre-Renaissance) settings. Nobody will really care that an older man is courting a younger one as long he's not forcing it and doesn't fuck her until she's formally an adult.
>>142393972
>Following what you've been typing, my thoughts flow along the same tangent.
I've yet to come across a japanese translated LN or WN series without faults, they just aren't written at that level.
For what a story is, everyone would enjoy life more embracing strengths more than faults, since the journey isn't a self creation process, it's vicarious.
An omniscience threat leaving a life of paranoia despite his strength was handled really well. If you were expecting him to blast his way through all situations, you'd be missing out on the fact all crossroads where about his choices, not the fights.
>start reading that aisha chapter just now
>rudi doing rudi things
>home alone
>this will probably become comfy as fuck
>sex moans from aisha
Did anyone else get a huge boner like I did?
>>142381889
>Why do western publishers and readers not understand the LN genre?
-LNs are for that japanese teens that need learn kanjis and hiragana, LN wordplay dont work in english language
-Because it´s a script for a future animated tv serie, LNs adaptation are impossible in live action.
-Characters never grow, they stay in high-school classrooms forever
-LNs are too long
>>142395492
>>142395542
You do know one of you is pulling the other along onto the idiocy roller-coaster right?
>>142396484
> Only in classrooms, never grow.
You need to read better LNs.
>>142380614
Ha, once again a:
>Man this is so easy even I could make money off it
boast on the internet, lazy fucks like you would never achieve anything in life, even on the level of a mediocre 'teen focused' novelization.
You're the type people would avoid even if you were selling water during a marathon in a desert.
Why can't we admit there are different types of LNs that cater to different audiences
LNs are just like those crappy pocket books that are a dime in a dozen anyway
>>142396484
>Horizon 2B
Every time.
>>142396047
>1. What is with the whole time travel? What is the point? Why was it only him? What are the mechanics? Was it all just something for him to take advantage of and if so, why is his rape baby taken back then.
How are any of those significant to the plot? The protagonist died in the first chapter, nobody knows what happens to a person after that. He could be anything from a vengeful spirit to trapped hell.
Also, it wasn't just him.
>2. Personality. He devolved into a villain that only thinks with his dick. Don't tell me that makes him alpha (it does not). It makes him into a piece of unredeemable shit character that only cares about sex. Nothing complex, just one-dimensional evil villain with nothing to care or respect about.
For starters, the protagonist killing Ikumi says otherwise.
>3. Killing off the people only created more shitty development out of nowhere and only added more to how irredeemable aspects to the mc to where there is no sympathy and depth.
MC only killed two people, and one was entirely on accident.
>4. What is the theme? What is the point?
Karma, childhood innocence and/or lack thereof, and deconstruction of reincarnation stories.
>Why am I watching a guy think with his dick when I could watch hentai for that and still be worth a fap than this?
Sounds like you're the only one thinking with his dick.
>>142396635
>LNs
>light
Pick one.
>>142396635
>LNs are just like those crappy pocket books that are a dime in a dozen anyway
Not like. That's exactly what they are.
>>142396940
Kawakami is an exception. There aren't many "proper" novelists that can write like him.
>>142396989
Aren't Loli Warfare and Overlord pretty big too?
>>142391979
>>142392584
>>142393577
>>142393972
Woah there, an actual discussion instead of shitposting? What went so wrong?
>>142396940
>missing the point
>>142396989Deus vult
>>142397040
Can that really be called a discussion? It took like 4 walls of text to realize we weren't actually disagreeing on anything to begin with.
>>142397104
Sounds like true love.
>>142396824
I worded that wrong about just him, I knew it was the rape baby as well that could do it. Also it is significant as it was the thing that MADE THE WHOLE STORY POSSIBLE. If you don't explore it, it becomes dry to the point where it leaves a plot hole. Erased had that and it was bad to that degree.
> Ikumi killed
That only solidified him as a one dimensional villain. Two-dimensional at best and terrible character with little depth to even sympathize or feel for.
> Accident
Yeah, and you know what happened after that? He was actually happy deep down and doesn't care other than himself.
> Karma, childhood innocence and deconstruction of reincarnation
There wasn't enough karma as is. That is as much depth as Akame ga kill and it means absolutely little to none. The lack of childhood innocence had no reflection, therefore it had nothing. Just another reason to find it appalling against the protagonist. And the deconstruction
>a method of critical analysis of philosophical and literary language that emphasizes the internal workings of language and conceptual systems, the relational quality of meaning, and the assumptions implicit in forms of expression.
Yeah right.
> Sounds like I am the only one thinking about his dick.
Hentai is more ridiculous than this shit and still somewhat better. What is worth liking about this series? I know what I am saying and unlike you, that manga is considered from an objective point of view, a piece of crap.
>>142378749
>liking SAO or Mahouka japanese wish fullfilment tier LN shit
Do LN threads usually happen inside MT threads like this? I usually avoid them due to not being the biggest Mushoku Tensei fan, but common LN threads are being deleted and this thread had everything from obscure chink shit to more popular authors like Kamachi or Kawakami.
>>142385903
That's not to scale, is it? Mystery freak can't be THAT much shorter than Uchimaku Hayabusa
>>142397279
I love my wish fullfilment just as much as the next guy but SAO was just awful, I much prefer MT.
>>142397454
They also tend to happen in new Kumo manga chapter threads.
>>142397456
She's pretty damn small and he's a big country born man. There's a reason Shinobu took over his high school style when they got older. Also, she was only 10 when she fell for him when he was already a police detective.
>>142374128OldRudi vs SoLRudi
Which is better?
>>142396723
I swear 2B didn't feel that long when I read it.
>>142397266
>Also it is significant as it was the thing that MADE THE WHOLE STORY POSSIBLE. If you don't explore it, it becomes dry to the point where it leaves a plot hole. Erased had that and it was bad to that degree.
The time travel in Erased was a central recurring mechanic that the entire plot revolved around, in Umareru it only established the setting that the story takes place in. Nearly the entire story takes place within the 3rd timeline, the story ends in the 3rd timeline, and aside from the 1st chapter any acknowledgement of other timelines is done indirectly through flashback. It's a minor plot device, not a major one, so the comparison is incorrect.
>That only solidified him as a one dimensional villain. Two-dimensional at best and terrible character with little depth to even sympathize or feel for.
How so? Kazuya never did anything without reason.
>Yeah, and you know what happened after that? He was actually happy deep down and doesn't care other than himself.
Deep down? He was outwardly happy about it. What's your point? Him being a bad person doesn't make him a bad character. He had very good reasons to be happy that kid died.
>There wasn't enough karma as is.
The protagonist dying and coming face to face with his inner demons, terrorizing the children that fucked him up in the first place, the spawn of his actions hunting him down for all eternity, the fact that he never actually remembers raping Anna and will never get the chance to be with her willingly or otherwise, etc. The protagonist directly created his own personal hell.
>The lack of childhood innocence had no reflection, therefore it had nothing.
Kyou and Anna's obliviousness, the bully's ruthlessness, Ikumi's sexuality, Kazuya's trauma, etc. It had plenty, you just weren't paying any attention.
>>142397266
>I know what I am saying
I disagree. You're full of shit, and the faulty points you've given have made that perfectly clear.
>>142396285
It happened after a recent server move, check the forums thread.
>>142397792
Just finished 15 yesterday, I wish the writer gave us a spin off of old Rudi's life especially the Asura civil war. It sounded pretty metal with Ariel and co being hung and Rudi feeling so much pain seeing sylph he razes the entire town.
>>142374128
Just can't read stories with self inserting this obnoxious. Every time I find one it's a random faceless programmer from japan, some inconsequential otaku school boy or some boring salary man going to a fantasy world and getting to live with whatever girls the author has a boner.
>>142398193
> Minor plot device
No it is not. It is the whole thing that created the story. The whole entire mess and you are telling us to leave such a huge influence out? No, that is a huge plot hole in itself. I never said anything about the third timeline being revolved and right now, it doesn't excuse the fact that THIS IS A TIME TRAVEL STORY. And both this and Erased had no explanations around the time loops and how it was established leaving a plot hole.
> Never did anything without a reason.
And even the reasons are extremely petty to where he is nothing more than trash. You cannot sympathize with this character. Nothing worth of value to this villain of the series. Kazuya is a terrible protagonist who cared about no one but himself and wanted to rape for dominance which is pretty much one dimensional. That is just petty abuse of his position and greed with no purpose other than making himself think he is better. That is just selfish with no sense of depth other than being just as bad as any other one dimensional villain.
> The bully.
You just took my false bait to explain it. Wow. You only made his character be portrayed as a bigger piece of shit. Good reasons, hah! He definitely had his revenge and went on a rampage.
> Karma
He doesn't reflect on such a thing. He only thinks about winning in the end. That is not a hell if he manages to succeed in causing terror anyways. Personal hell my ass. He still gets the pussy in different ways. Still a villain that you won't care for in the end.
> Bunch of kids you listed as innocent.
That wasn't a point to the whole story. It revolved around a fucking villain raping others and there was nothing of value to the "innocence" of the story. It just showed a downward spiral of a piece of shit that was Kazuya. What I meant by reflection is something around the lines, "I can't go back, I know what I have done makes me guilty."If this was in the story, it'd be a whole lot better but the "innocence" in this story is nothing.
>>142398241
No you are full of shit for trying to defend this piece of shit of a story. This story is not even good. It is terrible from the objective point of view. All this story is about a rapist abusing his position. Nothing worth of value in this story.
>>142398890
>time travel story
>protagonist only actually "time travels" once, in the first chapter, when he died
wew
>And even the reasons are extremely petty to where he is nothing more than trash.
[citation needed]
>Kazuya is a terrible protagonist who cared about no one but himself and wanted to rape for dominance which is pretty much one dimensional.
[citation needed]
>That is just petty abuse of his position and greed with no purpose other than making himself think he is better.
[citation needed]
You're writing literal fanfiction at this point.
>You only made his character be portrayed as a bigger piece of shit.
And you're mentally retarded. At no point did I say Kazuya wasn't a terrible person. I'm not sure why you felt the need to get excited and act like an underage over that revelation.
>>142398956
Not only have your points evaporated into nothing but vague opinion, your grammar has gone to shit as well. You clearly have nothing left to offer the discussion.
>>142399120
> Only once.
You contradicted yourself with the third loop. And the fact about the rape baby able to do it. Idiot.
> Justification to kill those who didn't really deserve such a thing. Even the bullying wasn't that far.
Check
> Need citation on the fact that rape is actually a sign of dominance. Needs to understand that he was selfish in the story and cared only about sex in the end.
> Still not realizing rape is an act of trying for dominance. Not understanding Kazuya's greed with sex. Abusing the time travel to where he does not improve but acts like a piece of shit.
Who's writing fanfiction? That's right, no one. And I only mentioned you defending his character. Nothing worth looking at his character. Why are you still dick-riding this bullshit of a story?
>>142399218
> Clearly have nothing to offer the discussion.
> Just because I missed a comma means I am illiterate.
You clearly understand my post. And realize the manga is shit.
>>142379004
These are awesome, is there more to the deleted arc? Or is that it and everyone flooded the author forcing him to change it?
Honestly this may be greedy of me, but I wouldn't have minded if he finished the whole thing before switching canon, basically making this route the Dark Rudi equivalent. I enjoyed how the two chapters connected and how Rudi doesn't get that Aisha would be a cake by the time Ars gets old enough.
>>142395410
>I don't know if Warlock of the Magus World is trying to make fun of morals or not
MC is a sociopath who would kill anyone if its benefits him. Morals play jackshit in his world and the only reason whyFayle is a pedo is the author needs a reason to explain why Fayle didn't take Bicky with him.
Just caught up with Magika its a pretty fun read. Kazuki is based as fuck, and the progression of lewdness throughout the books is a wonderful things. The MC goes from blushing at every touch to eating out girls while getting blowjobs. The art gets pretty good to
What about that story about the evil mc whose actions are evil but legal under the law? He is considered an upright citizen but in reality, morally wrong.
>buy LN digitally because of dwindling shelf space
>get this eyecancer
Thanks Yen Press, that's the last time I'll be giving you any money.
Wait did he or someone actually have a threesome?
I might read the whole LN of it's true?
>>142400329
It's no different in printed though, so at least you saved book shelf space and get to keep it you know, forever in a sense.
>>142400506
>It's no different in printed
Wait, they actually printed all these artifacts?
>>142394760
He clearly would brush up his math every time he had to shitpost and argue about it on the internet.
>>142374128
>>142374477
Also
>turns interesting and useful female characters like Roxy, Sylvie and Eris into useless one dimensional doormats housewives after Rudy shot his cum inside them
>>142400712
Also I don't understand WTF the author was thinking with Rudi's sister Norn
>Is in love with Onii-chan and wants to fuck him
>change her mind, she just wanted to gave incest
>Raped her nephew/Rudi's son when he reached puberty because he looked just like onii-chan
What a fucked up way to kill her character
>>142400997
that was Aisha and the writer took that story down, Norn is the only character to call Rudi out on his shit.
>>142400632
Well if they are anything like the Viz scans which you can easily look up archives of people comparing Viz -> JP raws then yeah basically.
Maybe YP is different, but I wouldn't put my hopes up. They do shit like replace Spicy Wolf's covers with 3DPD remember?
>>142400660
Ah that clears it up, I forgot how the nips shit post with power levels calculus.
>>142401230
No, it's just Amazon being a piece of shit. This is from a Kobo release.
>tfw reading a story about a lab cockroach being reincarnated into a human
So much potential but shit grammar damn it!
I need some real good fantasy with no isekai shit. Post em.
>>142402219
isekai=Fantasy
Zipang making fantasy relevant and great again.
Just started reading Girl who ate death. There's a long exposition about things that I have no idea nor care about. Is this gonna end soon?
>>142402308
Other world=Isekai
What I mean is that only the fantasy world is present and nothing else.
>>142390488
There was one about a girl who died and took the place of a gyaru slut who suicided. Shit was nice until the translator disappeared.
>>142402435
Probably, do note that this series is simple, has a theme, and rather compelling characters that is in a morally grey area.
>>142402476
Didn't the author say a big no to the TL?
>>142402435
Remember to check the prologue in Avert translation. The web novel translation didn't include it.
>>142402514
Maybe. I wouldn't know. The translator stopped posting and then their website was taken down.
>>142402514
Oh hey I just found what you were talking about. Somebody who was gonna pick the series up posted that the author doesn't want TLs. Well, shit.
>>142393913
>Like Jesus what the fuck happened to the fantasy genre?
The ability for otakus to write their own shit and publish it on the internet for e-peen, and a Galapagos effect of this writing community inbreeding ideas until traits exaggerate and everything looks and reads the same
>>142394293
Ore Twintail volume 5 EPUB where?
>>142396635
>different types of LNs that cater to different audiences
You wouldn't know it given that 99% of the covers just have some waifu on them.
>>142379725
That's the University.
Too bad no one wants to talk about Shield-bro and his Underage Harem.
10 year old looking like 18 year old.
1 month old looking like a 10 year old.
One girl literally pulling all the stops to seduce him.
Various other little girls who want to be shielded, if you know what i mean.
P.S there actually a fun story underneath all that and im happily waiting for the Spear hero LN which we will get never =\.
>>142403481
Don't use emoticons.
>>142403481
how new are you?
>>142403526
>how new are you?
Oh man, so new.
>>142403481
I tried to read this but the writing is like a goddamn gaming log.
>I woke up. I fought some balloons. I unlocked 2 new shields and I rose 1 level. Then I went to bed.
>The next day, I woke up. I fought even more balloons, and unlocked 2 new shields. Then I went to bed.
And so on. It makes for especially dry reading especially with the lack of variety in sentence construction.
>>142403588
Read Re Monster.
> I ate a rock.
> It was a good rock.
> Hurr durr.
> I had sex with a dryad.
> The harem got jealous.
> We had an orgy.
> I conquered elves and made them take aphrodisiac.
> Had a good time. Guhehehehe.
> Ate some other random shit and crafted something real useful and easy.
Someone purge this.
>>142403692
I remember people switching to shieldbro since its the better Re;Monster.In retrospect, that doesn't really mean much
>>142403588
>The next day, I woke up. I fought a balloon, and choked on its corpse. Then I went to tomb.
>Nobody resurrected me. I was stuck in tomb all day. Then I went to bed.
No wait that's the wrong game.
>>142403089
Busy with life and letting the TL burnout from SY clear up first. Maybe next month? I should have an update in the next two weeks.
>>142403825
Thanks man.
>>142403825
Hey there just wanted to remind you that Yen Press is literally three times faster than you.
>>142403951
Don't be a faggot.
>>142403987
I'm just saying, people keep spreading this meme of Yen Press being slow when the truth is that three volumes per year is already faster and more reliable than a majority of fan translations.
>>142403951
Have they picked it up? Haven't gotten any DMCAs so far. Honestly I can't say it's a wise move for them given it's niche audience and translation difficulty.
>>142404077
>Have they picked it up?
No, just speaking in a general sense because of >>142404066
Carry on trucking, soldier
>>142374128
simply put this series almost made me drop it about 4 or so times due to RUDY BEING A FUCKING BITCH
But i only kept going because I liked almost all of the other characters
>>142404066
Your majority is basically based on all the outlier series that aren't as popular. If we were to go by different merits, then all of YP put together wouldn't even match js06.exe.
Everyone accepts translations can be slow, it's a crap shoot. But why would you only talk about averages? If a series garners popularity, it will get the support it needs to be translated faster and better.
And here's the better thing, is YP licensing the slow to translate series mostly? Or are they just book marking Sky's blog and taking whatever his team works on next? Oh right, the latter.
And release rates don't matter when you start out behind 10+ volumes for most series, this is all before going into how each novel has a different release rate for YP. There's no fixed schedule. Spicy Wolf took ages to finish, long after the fan translations were done.
Now I'm not saying YP is total shit, cause it's also a crap shoot and you can get lucky. But you're just being autistic if you think semantics is worth defending the company over.
>As if to show off his trained body, Lyle spread both his arms towards the ceiling. Beside him, Monica:
“Chicken dickwad, you can’t just go off signing any and everything. Marriage is said to be the graveyard of life, after all.”
There after doing a single, sudden turn, Lyle set his body in a pose.
“Then let’s dye that graveyard in my magnificent colors!”
Monica applauded his actions.Best Mr. Lyle
>>142404325
>Or are they just book marking Sky's blog and taking whatever his team works on next?
I'm pretty sure they're taking whatever had an anime that garnered sufficient popularity in the West, because it's free marketing.
>>142404456
It's still the same thing in the end, they will never work on series that lacks translations, only things that have existing translations, and reasonably paced ones at that.
Maybe like 10% of their licenses are out of the norm. But that's it. Speed means nothing so long as you're always behind without DMCA/C&D.
As others have said, YP uses the strategy of aiming for the first volume. It doesn't really matter if whatever license they grab doesn't sell, it's dirt cheap and they only need vol 1 to make it big to recover the losses of many. But even then, they won't ever dare take a risk with stuff that has no translations.
Not exclusive to YP either, look at Shieldbro that's licensed. Where's this anime to speak of? Nowhere. The only big series not licensed is stuff like Mushoku Tensei where the content is basically soccer moms with pitchforks and torches material and Youjo/Horizon, which is phone book sized with high difficulty in translation.
Anime definitely has a hand in it, but you'd be delusional to assume the fan translations don't hold their attention. Even a dinosaur like Neil Gaimon understands this, how can anyone in 2016 still be arguing about it when the man literally made a scientific experiment on it, one that still runs today because of it's success?
>>142374128
It's basically SAO with poligamy. I don't understand why this shit is so praised.
>>142388400
>Pass perfection
Perfect > Dao Fruit >Eternal
>>142404717
I think you're reading too much into it. Those series which YP has that don't have anime already didn't exactly have fast moving translations at the time (Danmachi, Re Zero, Psycome) so it's doubtful that that is what got their interest.
And those series which did have fast moving popular translations already didn't get picked up by Yen Press until after there was an anime (SAO, Mahouka, Overlord, Konosuba, Asterisk) or only had fast fan translations in the first place because of the anime (Oregairu, Haruhi, Black Bullet)
And there are projects where fan translation barely existed but the anime was popular so they picked it up (Strike the Blood, Mekakushitty Actors)
One Peace Books licensing Shield is the outlier here. An anime is a stronger predictor of licensing than a fan translation.
>>142404717
>It's still the same thing in the end, they will never work on series that lacks translations
Surprisingly, SAO:P basically had no translators for both the novel and manga versions. YP was a god send there.
>>142404958
how he loses almost every fight he's in unless it's against jobbers
>>142393913
Slayers was shit though. I much prefer MT tbqh.
>>142404717
>how can anyone in 2016 still be arguing about it when the man literally made a scientific experiment on it, one that still runs today because of it's success?
Are you talking about how he let people read American Gods for free online?
>>142374963
Tales of demons and gods, is my favorite, The main character is a cocky overpowered guy, and not only that, he actually bully the bullies. I don't why you want a weak beta character who lets his love interests getting fucked by an older ugly fat man.
>>142404958
You should never get into marketing then.
Anyone reads Nidome no Yuusha ? If you HATE NTR, BETRAYAL and really like TORTURING PEOPLE (in non edgy way) you should read this, it's SOOO satisfying seeing the enemies got tortured to death (cause normal death would be shit considering it's so fast and instant)
>>142405636
i hope that fucking princess get fucking raped. Thank god the MC is not a dense faggot.
>>142405636
>Not edgy at all
Yeaaaaaasorry couldn't help myself
So far it's ok. The part where he wakes up and punches the princess in the face was funny
Ah the translations haven't reached the part with the 'food' torture yet. I think its only 1 chapter away. That was amusing.
>>142405636
Reading it at Daily Dallying right now
Is there any better place for TLs?
>>142394256
I feel you
>>142403245
Nope, that's the house. The bathroom and hallways are exactly as the story describes.
>>142393804
I was like this, but then one day i was bored and began to read it again and it completly blew me away. its just so fucking good.
>>142400712
OP here. They were one-dimensional to begin with (childhood friend who likes MC because he saved/was kind to them, literally copy-paste tsundere, literally copy-paste chuunin). The irony with Sylphiette was that she became the one-dimensional female character (like in Rudeus' eroge games, which he mentioned in his inner thoughts) whose world gravitates around the MC because they rely on the MC so much, which is exactly what Paul and Rawls were trying to avoid.
Also, Rudeus has harem MC powers: every girl wants the D, even Aisha which the author realized would be going too far. I dropped it at chapter 140 (the threesome chapter) because the writing became shit and Rudeus makes everything more unbearable.
>ooh, Eris... you're so cute! Please have sex with this 40+ year old man! xD
>my promise to live seriously? Better fuck around (literally) xD
>my overpowered magic talent makes all the guys fear me xD
>all the girls lust after my dick just because xD
>dad is dead and mom a vegetable? Better have a threesome xD
the series is literally a self-inserting, wish fulfillment, power fantasy.
>>142400250
blowjobs? when? I'm at the part where he's trying to convert back nest girl oneesan
>>142407030
>the series is literally a self-inserting, wish fulfillment, power fantasy.
And that's why we love it.
>>142380243
But the machine translation gave it a special flavor.
>「It’s no good to just kill them, it’s no good unless I torment, torture, make them scream, slowly deprive them of sleep, then break, break, break them to exhaustion. To simply kill them, that’s too much of a waste.」
Man I need to read more isekai novels
>>142389485
Even then the Eris thing was marred (for me at least) by the fact that it got revealed he basically stole her from her soulmate.
