JUST DISCUSSING THE MANGA
DON'T WORRY
NOT ABOUT THE LN AT ALL
JUST THE MANGA AND THE ANIME
I PROMISE
Anyone has the raw for chapter 16?
>>142349257
Just make a normal thread with a normal title and normal content.
I hope they do a season 2 of the anime or redo the anime at some point. I hear that the anime sold well and boosted sales like 400% so I don't get why they haven't started production yet unless they thought lizards would be no good.
If they were to do a remake or s2 what would you want improved?
>>142349257
Vol 10 translations so far
http://overlordvolume10.blogspot.com.br/
>>142349407
>Kappa
>Failed spoilers
Fuck off
Is there any extra content in the manga? I watched the anime and read the ln so I figured it wasn't worth it. Am I missing out?
>>142349407
I thought it was 2 elfs
>>142349451
There's aWN that you should check own
>ESL generalfag post/thread getting deleted.
Good job mods.
>>142349460
no it' 3
this feels like when moot used to get drunk and do random shit to piss everyone off
>implying the mod doesn't likes overlord and gets butthurt whenever spoilers are posted
>>142349517
>moot
who?
>>142349451
Reaction faces but not much else.
>>142349473
ESL posts being deleted is fine.
OL threads being deleted would probably be okay, [if] there wasn't actually a goddamn new volume out.
/a/ has never been a super-heavily modded place anyway and the new mod obviously is so fucking new he has no idea what the board culture is, who the fuck deletes loli threads on /a/?
>>142349451
There are some hilarious faces for reaction images. That's it.
>Boruto threads
>Waifu fag threads
>Trap threads
>/b/ tier "choose one" threads
>Raildex threads
>Gate threads
But truly, Overlord threads are the greatest cancer
>>142349572
Literally all of those actually belong on /a/ though, along with this.
You can call /a/ a shithole if you want but that's how the board is.
>the other thread is dead
Prepare for battle.
>>142349572
Mod doesn't know since he was born yesterday.
>>142349572
hey, the only bad ones you listed are the /b/ tier and waifufag threads
if it is an anime/manga/has an adaptation, it is legal on /a/
>>142349451
Well they have drawn some characters that didnt get an official So bin illustration until later, like Pestonya.
It also visualises places like the Gate of Solomon.
>>142349472
I've stayed away from the WN since it is different canon than the LN.
I'm so starved for content that I may read it anyway.
>>142349750
There's some pretty whacky WN content like Arche becoming shalltear's anal slave.
>leave blogging threads up
>leave normalfaggotry up
>leave fetishes threads like milf,loli,tomboy up even though they all turn into blogging shit and have nothing to do with /a/
Doing it for free.
Here we go boys. Rev up those deleted posts.
>you lived to see the day on that Overlord became one with the SnK/One Piece/Naruto cancer
Popularity really ruins everything.
>>142349358
Based on so-bin art and done by the ping pong guy who likes motion over pretty drawings.
The fucking combination of an oil painting look and that old cartoony style gets my dick hard and fits the series well.
I also want the lizards.
>>142349704
I just want them to contain it in one thread. We all know that overlord generals never die, I don't see the point in killing them except a rogue mod.
>>142349685
Usual bullshit that happens when they renew the janitors staff.
>>142349757
Go do the drastic measures on your own and don't associate it with Overlord threads then.
>>142349775
That's impossible though. I actually was wondering why the OL general, easily the most cancerous one during the gap between v9 and v10 what with all the ESL posting, wasn't dead. Now there's actually content.
>>142349467
>my post gets deleted
Wew Mod, mad you got called out?
>>142349572
Everything is a general now. Even watamote has a general.
>>142349830
man that's totally not the case, both in popularity or in levels on cancer
>>142349775
>Because you retards made a general out of it and offtopic post all the time.
This.
But to be fair, when some mod are starting their crusade on DJT, they at least give a warning to the thread beforehand.
Not saying I am not happy to see a cancerous fanbase/general getting buttdevastated. But if you gonna do that to one general, you should've do that to all other generals too.
Of course DJT have always gotten special treatment.
>>142349407
>Kappa
Overlord fanbase everyone.
>>142349750
My lack of overlord drove me to read Arifureta and get into light novels and xianxia.
It got bad enough that I read actual fanfiction where HeroHero also got teleported with Ainz. It wasn't bad, but I couldn't take it.
Jesus fucking Christ the entire thread is gone
>>142349858
Nah the OL general was incredibly cancerous before, it was literally /b/ tier or worse. I don't get why they're cracking down now of all times though.
>>142349864
That's a falseflagging retard.
Looking at how cancerous this fanbase is I think the mods is doing a good thing.
Literally Tokyo Ghoul tier trash but with /v/ instead of tumblr.
>implying mods give a shit about your show
As usual people probably reported you faggots x times via email or on the IRC for being offtopic cancer and now Hiro and his crew got sick of the spam and start doing shit.
It has always been the same.
>>142349847
Only about a third of the board if that is generals.
The rest are fairly spread out on their topics.
>>142349911
I'd agree with you since ESLs need to gtfo forever, but then again you yourself are an ESL.
>>142349891
>Nah the OL general was incredibly cancerous before, it was literally /b/ tier or worse. I don't get why they're cracking down now of all times though.
Considering none has gotten banned yet, I am venturing a guest that a new batch of janitor has just been inducted.
Late is better than never. Hey janny, please clean up Konosuba thread too yea? I hope the fanbase won't turn into Yahari 2.0, since that fanbase is already unsalvagable.
>>142349911
>its a newfag global mod who came on /a/ for the first ever episode
>ctrl+f "[deleted]"
>31 of 31 found
We're off to a good start it seems
No wonder the mods refuse to delete general threads. Look at all the fucking babies here crying about their hugbox.
Make up your fucking mind already, /a/. Do you want general or not?
>>142349964
but spamming cancerous ocs is not
>>142350015
I never liked generals.
If a show has nothing to discuss just let it die or wait till new content shows up.
Never force new threads because you feel comfortable with it.
Or else you end up like Madokafags, Jojofags and the rest.
>>142350015
What a dumb post.
You are making this post in a general, of course the resident of said general want their circlejerking hangout to be allowed.
>>142349964
LN threads are allowed. LN cancer generals and all other ones are not. You fags are just the beginning.
By the end of the year, all generals will be purged. Mark my words.
>>142350015
This is not a general.
>>142350015
Yes, burn it all.
>>142349470
>>142349580
Stop spamming threads
>>142350080
It is not exactly a general, considering there's new content.
>>142350080
How's your retirement, mod?
>>142349911
Gonna be honest here. Monster Musume threads are just waifu wars, and Konosuba threads are full of memes. I have seen more intelegent discussion in Overlord threads than in any of the last two.
>>142349932
There's always threads for Yuru Yuri, Love Live, Gochiusa, SNK, ass, trap, loli, cake and the retarded Umaru, Azusa, Illya spam.
>>142350116
>Monster Musume threads are just waifu wars
And tripfag worship, and fan/pornfiction and /soc/faggotry.
>the day when nearly all members of the Monmosu general posted their faces on /a/
To be honest you guys deserve it for always having a thread up with no new material but like >>142349819 says, there's things out there that need to be gone first. If these threads get deleted while there's a new manga/LN chapter then that's when you should be flinging shit.
Why are monster musume fags giving a free pass for a montly fucking manga? Why are they allowed to have a general when they have nothing to discuss and all their threads turn into off topic shit?
Protip: The mods won't delete what he like because they are corrupted.
I was thinking
Might Rubedo be considered dangerous because she's a zealot? That might explain why Nigredo doesn't trust her, but Albedo (who's overly devoted to Momonga) does. It would also match the actual definition of Rubedo as the hyper-purified endgoal of making a philosopher's stone, and seeing how the setting is very DnD based it's surprising we don't have a knight templar type yet - she's so devoted to her ideals (the guild?) that she's willing and able to anything to advance it - including, maybe, killing SBs.
>>142349938
>yea?
>venturing a guest
>being so new that he doesn't know janitors cannot 404 threads
>none has
>better late than never, and what better time than right after a new volume?
You're the type of cancer I'm talking about.
>>142350015
They shouldn't be allowed, but I'm not a fan of mods butting in this hard.
That being said there's actually shit to discuss.
>>142350100
Why the fuck do you idiots do this
This is why the mod actually has a good excuse to delete threads.
>>142350080
Yeah this year for real right?
>>142350184
Rubedo might be considered dangerous because she might have been the construct whose combat AI was bugged, which lead it to attacking friendlies.
What happened after the Lizard war anyways? I haven't been keeping up with the translations. Also, did they keep their promise of reviving the dead members of the notable lizardmen?
>>142350179
Monmosu got exiled to /jp/ like over a year ago.
But of course the general came back to /a/ after mods stopped looking after it.
Idolmaster needed to get banned a million times before it finally moved to /vg/ for good.
>>142350177
But there is new LN content out and the links to the translations were deleted before the threads.
>>142350116
The problem with generals, especially with LN based show, is that it is infected with ESLs that can't form a post long enough that a meaningful discussion can happen. That's why threads like Konosuba is filled with same old post/pic/joke/meme. Brown monkeys can only repeat what they saw.
When a general has an intelligent discussion, most likely it's because those ESLs are sleeping.
>>142349832
>We all know that overlord generals never die
I seem to remember this actually being a joke early in the autumn.
Little did I know they'd actually go and do it and circlejerk in their cesspool of ESLs.
>>142350250
I'm rather surprised Touhou hasn't come back.
>/v/ tier images all over the place
>>142348571
Watch the mods warning me for reporting this shit.
>>142349572
Raildex has three (3) ongoing manga.
>>142349558
is anon translating now?
>>142350116
I'm worried reading overlord threads when every post is about the thread instead of overlord. I don't see this with other show's or even mangas thread. Even fucking gochiusa CAWFEE meme threads are more on topic and that disturbs me.
Whats worse is that I wrote this post so now I'm part of the problem too.
Anyways, do you guys think Ainz is going to ever pull the card that he wants to step down and just hang out with everyone like he was in his guild, or is he going to continue playing CEO?
I'm saying this because I figure on maruyamas twitter where he said its all been a prologue so far that the 2nd part will probably be the discovery of players in the new world and Ainz will have to train the guardians to PVP and shit but they'll be dumb as fuck because they have no knowledge of how humans think. Except demi I guess.
>>142350295
Raildexfags even make rarely threads because they keep the discussion ongoing in the archive instead of making a new thread every single day.
It's still a shitty general but atleast the people there are aware of it.
A lot of threads are getting deleted now. By this second the mod will probably look this one as well. Overall, the chances is high.
You should be ashamed mods. Fucking around, deleting threads is not the way to do it. Although you think your intentions are good, it is not.
Longer you persist, Longer things get worse. Later on, it will be a bloodbath. Surely, you think of this through, mods?
Inevitably, the people of /a/ will rise and challange you. Nipplemod attempted to do the same, yet he failed.
Light Novels are not a plague to this board, it's a side dish. Overlord threads should not be deleted for this petty exuse.
Valkyrie Drive also received this kind of treatment. Eventually it was saved by our savior Hiro who came in our need.
Why do you do this? I don't understand. The people have been discussion their favorite series normally before you step in.
How could you? A perfectly civil thread was destroyed because of our stubborness. "Good job" some people said. I think otherwise.
Rather than deleting threads, I suggest you just stop with this madness. Lively threads don't deserve this kind of treatment.
>>142350339
How fucking new are you? This happen everytime a mod fuck up
>>142350269
Well, we were having a discussion on the other thread with 350 replies, but the mod deleted it regardless.
>>142350269
it's not like this is a forever general or whatever, it's having new content right now!
new stuff being made just this week translated multiple times a day
>>142350269
It doesn't help that we have a namefagging ESL in these threads.
I miss the days from before, what, Episode 8-9 of the anime? Was that when the brown faggots showed up in force?
>>142350295
>
Nobody gives a shit about any of them besides MAYBE Accel's though.
Railgun has been off-topic who cares forever within the manga, and the Index manga is 'literally who gives a shit' tier.
>>142350323
I'm a native Chinese speaker so if you post something I guess I could. I don't know where Nigel is up to at the moment so I can't actually start translating.
>>142350368
Is this a pasta of some sort? You're not helping.
>>142350248
Yeah in vol 7 the lizards are training with Hamsuke and Monkliz and Broliz are alive with Zaryusu. Cocytus is mentioned to be still at the lake in vol 10 and they also have a scene at the village I think in vol.8 where they mention all the improvements that have been done so far.
Zaru taught Hamsuke martial arts.
>>142350368
>Later on, it will be a bloodbath.
No, it won't.
Worst case scenario, people will stop coming /a/ alltogether because the moderation will be cracking down on everything so heavily because cancerposters simply adapt whenever new rules ar ein place.
The people here who regular the threads and actually contribute by translating and discussion the material need to stand up against the shitposter brownies and other cancer instead of looking at the janitors and mods.
Selfmoderation can protect you. If you ignore or tolerate shit like ESL you only end up getting deleted. Report that shit and call people out for their shitty behaviour so they know this isn't the place for it.
>>142350394
>>142350412
Come on now, let's all be honest here. Even weeks before new content are out you guys do have a thread up, otherwise where do you think "where's vol 10?" meme start?
If you want to bitch why admittedly shittier general are not delete before yours that's fine. But let's not lie and says there are no Overlord general.
>>142350476
How about I report you for your blatant racism instead?
>>142350414
It's summerfaggotry, just hide it and ignore it.
>>142350476
This is the only correct post in this thread.
>>142350507
Fuck off and stay in your facebook group, you monkeys. You are the reason why the mods are pissed off. Cancer.
>>142350507
Yeah. Not like there is a connection between it.
ESL people and people like Mugino are the pillars of /a/ society
>>142350184
Rubedo seems like one of those characters that we won't get to see for another couple of volumes.
I expect her to not show up until Albedo wants to mobilize her for some suspected SB shit, likely just a crock Jir and pals cook up but then suddenly PA starts lugering everyone and Rubedo teleports in and turns the place into ash.
>>142350414
yes please, heres the new stuff
http://pastebin.com/DCJHxrG9
>>142350535
>>142350560
I don't know what the hell ESL is, I don't even read Overlord. But I will NOT stand for racism.
>>142350499
no, there wasn't any 24/7 general weeks beforehand. It's been quiet up until release and would have gone back to being quiet until September
>>142350589
This is a very fine bait.
>>142350589
>But I will NOT stand for racism.
In that case tell Mexico and Brasil to stop shitting up /a/
>>142350622
I'm convinced its SEA, maybe not Pinoys because they speak decent English. I'm thinking that the Malaysian or Indonesian are the cancer killing /a/.
>>142350476
/a/ has always been selfmoderated and maintained a reasonable quality just from that.
In fact we used to be one of the very few boards who didn't tolerate having shit grammar.
What the fuck happened?
>>142350560
Fuck off you imbecilic ESL, if you post on an English-speaking board, you have the courtesy to post in reasonably-well constructed English.
Do you go on a Chinese or Japanese board and post broken chink or nip too?
>>142350589
It means English Second Language, and implies having a billion grammatical errors and generally being unable to type in a fluent or cohesive manner.
>I will NOT stand for racism
Back to your hugbox
this thread is great
>>142350647
That as well.
They are one of the few who keep making threads in their native language and shitpost about /pol/shit all day.
Pinoys are cancer as well though. Just look at SHiN
>>142350617
>>142350622
>>142350658
>>>/pol/
All races are welcome on /a/.
>>142350672
Oh no, I don't give a damn where you're from. I care that you speak fluently.
>>142349603
Raildex and Gate doing exactly as much with /a/ as Overlord does.
>>142350746
>Raildex and Gate doing exactly as much with /a/ as Overlord does.
I don't know what the hell you're trying to say.
Are you implying neither of those have to do with /a/? Do you want /a/ to become /seasonalanime/?
>>142350698
>>142350776
Wow, now I know why HIro is banning your threads. Your racist scum. *pew* I spit on you.
>>142350672
If you are "forced" to post shitty offtopic craps, and stale joke/meme because you can't write a decent, coherent and intelligent post since you don't know how to do so in English. Why not stay in your local anime forum/facebook group instead of killing /a/ slowly with your bullshit.
>The drama on this thread.
can't we just talk about Climb?
>>142350798
Case in point >>142350796
How do we get rid of them forever? ESLs and moralfags (ironic?) are basically the only types of people selfmoderation seems to completely fail at taking care of.
>>142350828
You know, I'm an ESL too but things is, I lurked for a year or so before I'm comfortable posting on /a/.
These motherfuckers need to lurk more. Too bad recent influx of ESL seems to come from places where self-moderation and shame are nonexistent.
>>142350796
summer is great
>>142350798
>>142350828
You are the minority here. We won.
>>142350827
We know Ainz meets Renner and Climb. Maybe Sebas will show up?
>>142350827
Poor Climb.
His country is in complete and utter shitter.
>>142350827Rod of the Incubus
Doubt that will happen but he isn't gonna have a happy ending.
>>142350827
Go away Climb don't get involved in this.
>>142350786
Are you retarded?
Gatestarted as a WN than published as Novel than come the manga than the LN than the anime.
Raildex? Their threads are nothing but disqusing a latest developments in the LN series. The anime and the manga barely even cover the 5% of the sourcematerial.
>>142350878
I'm an ESL too. As I said, I'm a native Chinese speaker.
They need to take a uni class in English and then figure out what the board culture is, unlike >>142350940.
>>142350940
The word is 'then', not 'than'. This is junior high material.
Also, LN discussion has literally always been allowed in /a/. If you're unironically asking for Raildex threads to get out of /a/, perhaps lurking is the correct course of action for you.
>>142350827
>>142350886
>>142350905
>>142350909
>>142350919
You know that an Overlord thread is really shit when talking about Climb is more interesting than the actual discussion in the thread.
>>142350919
Fuck off nameshitter.
>>142351008
I'll take any discussion over the other crap.
>>142350886
Wasn't it just Albedo who went to the kingdom?
>>142350909
Albedo gave Renner a shapeshifting item according to spoilers.
>>142351008
I tried starting up a Rubedo discussion but no one responded.
>>142350581
Can you put it on ghostbin or something
Pastebin is dead for me right now
>>142351089
Which one? We gonna see angel Renner anytime soon?
>>142351004
>This is junior high material.
Well, excuse me sir but english is only my third language. How many other language do you speak beside your mother tongue?
>Also, LN discussion has literally always been allowed in /a/
Funny because the Mod said they aren't and everyone should get the hell out from here.
>>142351145
>Funny because the Mod said they aren't and everyone should get the hell out from here.
The mod is an obvious fucking newfag then. Do you want discussion to be limited to seasonal anime or something? If we talk about an anime, the source material is going to be brought up.
>mod said they aren't
Oh wait
Did he kick the Kumo-chan threads off to /jp/ or something? I've been wondering why there's no WN threads around.
>>142351063
Sadly I agree to. Overlord threads really turned into shit.
>>142351097
Unfortunately we don't have much information about her, and we already discussed about her a million times in past threads. She might be a golem made of caloric stone, but this is only a theory. Nigredo said that she will bring a calamity to Nazarick and she is not the type that others can open their hearts toward, so she either is really evil or doesn't have a personality.
She probably will be the only real threat to Ainz and might be even the final boss.
>>142351089
>renner
>shapeshifting
I like where this is going
>>142351097
I responded but I don't know why people are so interested in posting offtopic.
>>142350574
>>142351115
I don't know where you got the idea she'd want to be an angel. Maybe to fuck with Sloan empire?
>>142351145
Feel free to go somewhere else that accepts your ESL ass or speak proper English faggot.
>>142351220
>Did he kick the Kumo-chan threads off to /jp/ or something?
No new mango chapter, no reason to make a thread.
Also, we don't discuss WN here.
>>142351115
I got it from the CN site. She's given a box by Albedo when they have their girls chat time thing.
>>142351226
My theory was that she might be too 'good'.
Victim is the only NPC we really have info on in the eighth floor and Floor 8 is supposed to have an apocalyptic theme or something. Victim is an angel.
Lastborn is a Miko and therefore holy, so she might have a positive karma score.
If Rubedo fits the super purified idea, she might simply be too pure and gone full Inquisition, and might be considered dangerous because she's not -500, but +500 and willing to act on it.
>>142351274
You realize the Kumoko threads were literally just WN threads right
>>142351274
>we don't discuss WN here.
What the fuck you think Kumoko-chan is?
Thread's settled down quite a bit.
Hope it stays that way.
>>142351274
How new can you be?
>>142351305
Considering Tabula's character, he probably found interesting making the strongest being whose job is to protect Nazarick be also be the biggest threat. Albedo was described as a fallen angel, so maybe she is an angel. Her job is to judge AOG deeds, and then give the appropriate reward/punishment. If she has good karma, she will give punishment for Ainz and most NPCs for their evil deeds.
>>142351515
>Considering Tabula's character
What do you mean?
>>142351552
Tabula was a massive autist and liked gap moe.
The irony of having your greatest asset be your greatest danger wouldn't be lost on him, and the Philosopher's Stone (especially a flawed, 'mortal' one) was often as dangerous as it was valuable.
>>142351586
http://overlord.liblo.jp/archives/39260291.html
Says something about Rubedo possibly being an experiment?
>>142351552
He was rather eccentric and an autist. He also loved making characters with contradictions, like Albedo who looks like a gently and benevolent goddess but is extremely cruel and Nigredo who is a crazy psycho, but actually has good karma and is one of the nicest characters.
>>142351712
Rubedo = strongest. Maybe she's a small 6 year old girl.
>There still some humanity in him. He didn't like how Demiurge kidnapped people from the Kingdom regardless of sex and age. He needs to play the role of Overlord because he thinks that he needs to live up to his subordinates expectation, but even so he asked to at least give a quick and painless death to the kids.
When did this actually happen? I don't remember it at all. Was it a sidestory, or dramacd or something?
>>142351691
No, it is referring to when Ainz ordered to try to use Rubedo to see if in NW she still worked properly.
Which overlord would your rape
>>142351780
We have Cirno in Shalltear, Reimu in Lastborninb4 Fantasy Heaven. Is Rubedo Marisa and has massive collateral damage to everything?
>>142351780
>inb4 all the floor'sNPC are flying fetus and childs
>>142351829
Fluder.
>>142351806
Volume 6.
>>142351842
Isnt it Cocytus Cirno?
>baka
>ice element
>likes to fight
>>142351843
I mean Nigredo has all those spider faces.
>>142351829
elf slaves
>>142351885
Cocytus isn't an imbecile though, he just cannot into tactics. Shalltear isn't either, but she fucked up a lot worse and isTHE STRONGEST
>>142349257
For one second i thought it was Gut's head.
>>142351806
I really hope other otherworlder would call out Ainz for being an evil bastard.
>>142352042
He ain't though.Evil is the worst buzzword since the dawn of mankind
>>142351942
Cocytus is totally a baka no matter how you see it.
Aniway looking a bit at japanese wikia
至高天の熾天使 天使の中でも最高位に位置する熾天使（セラフ）級の一種。
An angel that requires Albedo and Ainz to fight together to win against?
>>142351305
>Floor 8 is supposed to have an apocalyptic theme
No I saw the map of floors before in another thread its wasteland/desert. Sinking sand, strobe lights, probably antlions, giant scorpions with eight kinds of poison, vultures shitting on you from above and that fucking grinning Sun from Super Mario that follows you around the level.
>>142351515
>>142351691
>>142351780
I don't know why you guys don't remember. She's a gundam/golem. Albedo said they had to 'activate' her and were doing tests. She's on Albedos hit squad, she managed to convince Ainz even though he didn't want to let her have her by saying she wanted to make the 'strongest team'.
As for her battle strength she's the strongest MELEE fighter according to Cocytus and he said he could take her with abilities. The main reason she is 'strongest' is the Caloric Stone which forms her core which is a world item which can only be combated by other world items. Right now most guardians have world items, at least Aura/mare/albedo.
In my opinion she's going to be a problem because Albedo will use her for something shady, she'll rebel against Albedo, and Albedo being the selfish cunt she is will lie and PA will be a bro since he's on the team too and figure everything out and tell Ainz secretly about Albedo being a cunt and then she gets house arrest.
>>142351806
vol 6 climax in the warehouses, momon tackles demi into one then they chat and he tells him to kill the kids out of mercy
>>142351942
No I think he was fine with the tactics it was just the situation and the orders didn't allow for much interpretation. He didn't think he had the freedom to act beyond orders and Ainz did that on purpose. Literally forcing him into a corner.
>>142351920
Read ahead a bit. Apparently the elfs captured live in Nazarick's forest and adore Mare and Aura.
>>142351942
>THE STRONGEST
I like how author calls someone The Strongest only to introduce some IMBA few chapters later.
>>142352073
I think that just says an angel above all other angels. Maybe she does have +500 alignment.
>>142352073
Angel above all other Angels, something about a seraph.
>>142352090
Well Shalltear is technically the strongest all-around Guardian. She's most likely to do the job against a head-on opponent if you have no other info.
>>142352121
>>142352136
Yeah sorry, missed this last part.
アインズ ですら アルベド 共に全力で相手をする必要がある強さ。
Anyone who has read the WN?Do you know if the dragon king / lord can switch between human and dragon form?
強大な力を誇るドラゴン。
正確には「竜王」という種族がある訳ではなく、力のあるドラゴンがこう呼ばれる。
中でも"始祖の魔法"が使える存在は「真なる竜王」と呼ばれる。
人間の姿を取ることもでき、この血を引くドラウディロンは二つの姿を自在に入れ替えられる模様。
>>142352073
Is that Certain Death?
>>142352042
He's a heartless corporate drone who loves Nazarick. He didn't want to turn them into the Nazarick youth, he couldn't tell Demi off because he was following orders, and he couldn't let them go because it would have spoiled the plan and revealed Nazarick as cunts.
Its okay. He'll save people with his orphages and human rights projects and decriminalizing weed.
With power comes hard choices anon.
>>142352057
rounding up ten thousand people setting a city on fire and releasing a horde of demons then killing all the children and using all the adults as funny farm harvests for skin scrolls and experiments is pretty evil dude
And before you say well Ainz doesn't know about the farm, I really doubt he'll mind even if he does find out. Probably just order them all killed if it makes him uncomfortable with the torture thing.
>>142351876
>>142352079
>vol 6 climax in the warehouses, momon tackles demi into one then they chat and he tells him to kill the kids out of mercy
I somehow totally missed that. I remember Ainz tackling Demi into a building and them chatting, but I don't remember child genocide being the result of that. I wonder if I blocked it out.
>>142352042
Evil is pretty subjective anon. Merciless, Cruel, Heartless? Those all fit. You might be able to rationalize killing children for "the greater good" after all. In this case however he's just a dick.
>>142352232
Certain death may be confirmed to be half elf is japanese spoilers are to be believed.
>>142352247
I think Ainz agreed to killing/capturing people. But he said to give the children quick deaths no?
>>142352073
>>142352227
My guess:
>highest heaven's seraph, a subtype of the greatest of angels, the seraphim
>>142352232
It isn't evil. Evil is a subjective term based on priorities that also changes over time.
Killing the kids iirc has to do with not being able to just let them go at that point, so instead of feeding them to the skinripper demons or something, just CotB them.
>>142352227
>アインズ ですら アルベド 共に全力で相手をする必要がある強さ。
I think it just says it would take both Ainz and Albedos full strength to win?
>>142352227
Remote control armor.
>>142352079
Her race was never mentioned, her being a golem and being made of a world item is just speculation. Cocytus is the best when it comes to a warrior specialized in weapons but he wouldn't beat Rubedo as even Shalltear is considered weak when compared to her. And when did he say he could defeat her with abilities? I don't remember this, could you say in which volume this was written?
I agree with you about Albedo being the reason for Rubedo's bringing problems to Nazarick.
>>142352227
The way I'm translating it, it says
"Dragon were always strong, not just one dragon lord etc.
XX dragon lord has the ability to freely switch between human and dragon form."
>>142352073
I think it's Seraph Empyrean, the angel that Ainz mentioned in volume 1 when he was facing the Sunlight Scripture. He would need to use his full power to defeat it.
>>142352325
I wonder if there some x beats x flow chat out there.
>>142352325
Wasn't it mentioned there were 2 guardians made with items, one was the giant golem and was an apology from the admins, and the other was made using a WCI. Pretty sure it mentions it back when he's first describing the guardians in detail.
>>142352136
>Shalltear is technically the strongest all-around Guardian
She's absolute shit in this story because everyone around her is specialized and has access to gimmicks. She would be great to take out the beastmen because she can just sustain tank forever. I doubt she'll ever be useful, or get focus again.
>>142352278
Demi took his orders way too far. He reacted by just letting it pass and ordering the kids killed to save his conscience. Thats why he had to talk with him because he had no idea what the fuck was going on.
>>142352284
>Evil is a subjective term based on priorities that also changes over time
No I think a spooky skeleton with an army of eldritch horrors and dark magics wearing black with monsters and shit and people like neuronist is pretty textbook evil. Its literally hell imagery. The DnD evil is just more selfish, but I'm pretty sure Ainz is evil as fuck by any definition.
That doesn't make the people he's killing innocents though. Clementine was rather evil too. Tell me Gazef isn't a good or neutral type, I'll call you a shitter. Moral relativism is for idiots.
>>142352411
>No I think a spooky skeleton with an army of eldritch horrors and dark magics wearing black with monsters and shit and people like neuronist is pretty textbook evil. Its literally hell imagery. The DnD evil is just more selfish, but I'm pretty sure Ainz is evil as fuck by any definition.
Which is why I said it's subjective, because this definition of evil is literally memes.
>>142352057
>>142352284
See? Your comment is chuuni/edgy as fuck.
And I can see Ainz justifying himself like that. Doesn't make it right. I hope someone that just entered the world see what Ainz was doing and call him out for being an evil son of a bitch. Preferably his ex-guildmates.
Call him out like "you wouldn't dare to do this crap in real world, but you got the ball to do it in this world, you power-mad chuuni brat".
>>142352428
Oh come on, Ainz has all the sign of edgy kids that thinks vidya == real world.
I hope he'll have breakdown when he realize killing people in that world have real consequences.
>>142352403
Isn't Ainz's chest ball a world class item? I seem to remember reading somewhere he used it to wipe out most of the 1500 invasion team and that it costs 5% exp or 5 levels/use?
>>142352403
I think you mean Gargantua who is a floor guardian. He is not a custom NPC and was given by the mods. A guildmember suggested using the caloric stone to make some equipment and weapons, but we don't know what it ended up becoming. Some speculate that AOG used the caloric stone to create Rubedo.
I cannot wait for mroe purepure pleiades. Why can't it be September already?
So... Pestonya and Nigredo were in prison for like 5 or more months? Since between V6/7, not 8, and now in V10 they would be free.
>>14>>142352482
As far as GT goes, in WN he used it to destroy the weapons of the enemies in the 1500 invasion.
>>142352325
Cocytus had a discussion with the DK in the DK side story about who he could beat and who could beat him.
Rubedo being a golem with the caloric stone was mentioned in an early volume and isn't speculation.
>>142352376
I don't know where they would get one since their lvl80 was the highest they could summon. Maybe sloan has an even better one.
>>142352428
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Is Pol Pot evil? Is Hitler evil? They did bad shit, can I say that killing innocents is evil or do I have to resort to fucking memes to make a point here?
>"you wouldn't dare to do this crap in real world, but you got the ball to do it in this world, you power-mad chuuni brat".
I bet he would probably just say I'm a fucking selfish skeleton monster what do you want. He even told Clementine he was a hypocrite.
>>142352482
5 levels a use and destroys all weapons according the WN
>>142352524
It was probably a week and it was house arrest to kill albedo from killing them.
The timing of the volumes is pretty fucked.
>>142352524
They were freed to open an orphanage for the kids of parents that Ainz killed in order to make people more loyal.
That logic.
>>142352431
>>142352411
>>142352466
Define evil in clear terms though? That's why I say it's a buzzword, because historically calling someone evil amounts to a lofty-sounding 'I do not like you and this makes you objectively a shit'. I don't like calling anyone evil. Or good, for that matter. Ainz works for the benefit of his own people, disregarding the livelihood of everyone else. This is the hallmark of being a leader. By your definition of evil, Julius Caesar was evil beyond measure, as were Pompey and Augustus and Charlemagne.
>you wouldn't dare to do this crap in real world, but you got the ball to do it in this world, you power-mad chuuni brat
What does this even mean? He's anything but chuu2. He's heartless in this world, he's literally forced into being a psychopath without empathy.
>vidya == real world
Ainz is facing those consequences though. He just has the power to override it, and you're also ignoring his genuine benevolence when administering his new territories.
>Is Pol Pot evil? Is Hitler evil?
Depends if you agree with them lad. Evil is a term that literally means 'I do not like this person'.
That being said, I'll go and say they're fucking retarded and that their acts didn't really have a point to them, or at least not one I clearly see.
>>142352411
Forgot to mention.
Gazef is a supporter of the common people. This doesn't necessarily make him good, mind you, since his loyalty to the King and people doesn't necessarily extend to the system, which has its own share of supporters.
He's also fucking retarded, but that's not news.
>>142352411
Ainz is bringing Shalltear and Aura with him to the Dwarf Kingdom in volume 11. She isn't shit, she can play both the roles of attacker and healer and would defeat any Floor Guardian.
>>142352520
The only bad thing is that it will bring back all the meidofags.
>>142352572
No, she wasn't said to be a Golem and nor made of caloric stone.
Cocytus didn't discuss who he could beat and who could beat him, he was discussing who he is close to and what are his wishes.
>>142352572
>lvl80
The Dominion or whatever is roughly level 50-60 according to our guesswork back when we weren't as cancerous.
>>142352756
>Hamsuke above basically the entire New World
Every time
You guys think that the glimmer of wisdon thing NWers kept mentioning was because of a high WIS stat due to being level 30+?
>>142352612
Okay I know what you're saying, its relative, hitler was good to some people, etc.
That doesn't excuse bad shit. You simply can't ignore the obvious setup here of the events. No one call North Korea a wonderland. The people are starving and they survive off forced labor and illegal activities. Everyone hates their shit. They are doing evil shit. Now you may want to be like 'oh well you just don't like that dictator I'm sure his inner circle loves him for making them rich enough to eat in his shithole of a country and not killing them' but its still fucking evil. Just like how a church giving people food is generally considered good. You can't run away from reality that much, especially when its fairly obvious in Overlord that the character is intended to not be a beacon of light and hope. Sure he does great shit and loves his family, but that doesn't excuse the el shub niggawrath ok? He murdered lots of people with eldritch goats. Tell me thats not evil.
>>142352651
Thats obvious, but he's still a very template heroic character. In overlord he's portrayed as a idiot and he even admits as much.
>>142352756
I said 80 because Ainz said it 'hurt a bit' when he got zapped by it so either that protection against all the shit that isn't above lvl80 doesn't apply to weaknesses or he could just feel it anyways.
>>142352794
The tree in the drama cd was the highest level in the nw so far at 80ish
>>142352794
He has been trained and has an armor and NW skills now. So yes, he is probably above everything that is not a godkin or a dragon.
Aniway here is how the jap wiki describes slave theocracy's god of death. Some nips seem to even think that he may have survived as lvl 1 and in hiding.
六大神の中でも最強の存在。スルシャーナと呼ばれており、八欲王に殺害されたと伝えられている。しかし、彼の従属神は堕落して魔神になったりせず未だに存命している模様。シンボルカラーは黒。アインズに似ているらしい。
以下web版の情報。顔は髑髏で、僅かな皮を貼り付けた姿。漆黒のローブは闇と一体化するほど大きく、光り輝く杖を手にするという。
>>142350671
But I don't like speaking in my own language, though. And I'm certainly not into politics.
>>142352873
>first entire whatever
That's not relevant though. Kim is insane, retarded, and an imbecile. Evil is a term that simply doesn't get to be applied in objective discussion because it means nothing.
Going back to someone like Caesar, he's usually considered good despite killing inane amounts of people and going for actual genocide three or four times and succeeding at least twice.
Had he died during the Celtic uprising, or in fact simply been defeated by Pompey, we'd say he's a shit. The reason we don't is because he won.
Charlemagne has the whole 'shed the blood of saxon men' thing going on, and he wasn't very nice on his military campaigns. He's still respected because he managed to hold onto power and get other shit done.
Alexander the Great is considered an okay guy mostly because the Greeks and Romans (aka the people who left behind the records that we give a damn about) fucking loved the man.
NK is 'evil' not (solely) because it's a shithole, but also because it's being hostile to damn near everyone (including China and Russia) and building nukes while having an insane and completely directionless leadership, therefore leading most people to dislike it and labelling it evil.
>heroic character
Yeah, but that means nothing as to whether or not he's good. He's a hero of the masses. He's surely not a hero to someone like the Slane leadership or Jircnev.
>hurt a bit
Dominion Authority has the ability to boost one spell way up by breaking its tablet.
>>142352982
What threads do you go in anyway
I haven't seen you around
It feels like every day I see new tripfags appear
>>142353043
I genuinely don't follow threads in /a/. Not any more, I mean. I can be spotted in /u/ around the time when I translate stuff, though.
>>142352572
It was a lot more than a week. They were imprisoned before the Kingdom could muster their forces and that sure as hell didn't take a week. Even volume 10 has had a month go by from when Ainz took residence in E-Rantel.
>>142353084
Oh it's a /u/ person
Explains a lotIs /u/ a fan of Saki
I'm getting real fucking tired of Ritz's upgrades, Awai is now early Nodoka tier
>>142353115
I don't follow Saki, sorry. I don't casually browse /u/.
>>142353099
They're technically under house arrest aren't they? Functionally that just means they're grounded.
>>142353139
What
Where do you casually browse then
Do you just, what, pop in and translate shit then pop back out?
>>142352873
Are extreme acts of war considered murder now? How many civilians died due to allied bombing in WW2? Was that evil?
>>142349257
What's wrong with light novel? Haven't read it, but the manga and anime are good.
Furthermore, why does /a/ generally hate ln's? I know most aren't great or whatever, but there are good ones.
>>142353172
It probably is at this point. That being said, modern morality hardly applies in the medieval mindset when peasants legitimately WERE subhuman compared to nobility, and both sides more or less agreed on this point.
>>142353222
>What's wrong with light novel?
Nothing.
>Haven't read it, but the manga and anime are good.
Go read it.
>Furthermore, why does /a/ generally hate ln's?
We don't. Newfags do and an asshole mod was purging shit earlier which is why there's a shitstorm up the thread and why the current thread has that disclaimer.
>>142353163
>Where do you casually browse then
In terms of frequency: I'd say Dark Souls 3 threads on /v/. But other than that I stay on
>Do you just, what, pop in and translate shit then pop back out?
In a way, yes. I'm moving our DVD subs of Sono Hanabira OVA to the BD, so I browse the Sono Hana threads for info and input. If I have some questions about translation, etc., I go to the Translation Thread. Once I'm done, I bugger off.
>>142352502
Yes. That's what I meant. I don't recall much being mentioned about Rubedo aside from when she's brought up with the first meeting in the haunted house.
>>142352524
What exactly were they imprisoned for?
>>142352873
>the people are starving
Not the case in OL, they eat like fucking kings could never dream of.
>survive off forced labor and illegal activities
E-Rantel is basically crime-free with demigod DKs patrolling and Ainz wouldn't even have a use for human labor when Golems are a dime a dozen.
>Everyone hates their shit
Mostly scared actually, but he's only been KANG for a month and the merchants are already returning.
>murdered lots of people with eldritch goats
He could've killed a hundred times that number and not be evil. It's a pitched battle. People die.
>>142353318
>What exactly were they imprisoned for?
They were trying to rescue the kids Ainz ordered mercykilled.
Pretty sure Ainz was actually somewhat glad but he had to make a show of punishing them to make sure Albedo didn't dismember the two.
>>142350015
> complaining about anime discussion on anime discussion board.
I don't think I'll ever understand it.
>>142352873
Technically it's not murder, since they declared war and went to the extent of arranging a battlefield where they can kill eachother as much as they pleased.
This time it turned out that one side was a whole lot better at the whole killing business.
>>142353345
Guess I'm rereading vol6. I missed all of that entirely. I wonder if I skipped it or was just drunk or something.
>>142353423
Okay fuck you, you actually got me to click on it.
>>142352756
It was a specialized summon though.
>>142353449
> trole achieved
Victory tastes sweet.
>>142353442
Its because Albedo though they were going against Ainz's orders. Ainz didn't really have a problem with it and actually wanted to spare the kids.
>>142353435
Wholesale slaughter is the best
>mfw a stack of Germanic Slingers in Attila against cavalry and heavy infantry
>mfw watching them drop and rout before closing
>>142353479
It's still kind of shit-tier, Dominions aren't even high up on the angel hierarchy just average.
If an Angel is level 10, a Dominion would be level 70 assuming 10 levels between each rank.
>>142353481
Cockroaches are cute.
>>142353442
The jailbreak and house arrest are rom volume 7 I believe. Only a couple lines about it and nothing more until the volume 10 stuff.
>>142350909
What was that item? Whats her power? I cant remember.
>>142353652
What's what item? Rod of the Incubus? That's just a joke for Demi's dick.
>>142353652
Ah fuck me. Its in the best chapter.
>>142352987
just by mentioning that shit you realize it was evil. Just because they are considered good means fuck all, thats just plebs who have a cursory understanding of the subject. Leadership in general means killing and fucking certain people in the ass so certain other people can live comfortably, thats just history. You don't call them evil, but that doesn't excuse the act at all. And when you're a goddamn skeleton with a dark aura that kills people by proximity and the ruler of life and death tell me that doesn't scream evil. Like literal evil.
We know Momon is going to be a hero because of the drama Cd and that Satoru is generally a pretty loving guy but that doesn't excuse the people he's killed. Those are still horrible things he did. He's evil as shit.
>>142353099
okay, I guess I read wrong
>>142353172
Yeah it was. Its just considered normal for wartime. I don't think you get to say killing is fine just because its war, you have to make the choice to kill but you can still realize its morally wrong. Put another way, when they were firebombing japan they realized that kids were just washing off the napalm that was falling onto them so naturally a company developed a compond to make it sticky so it would cling better to human skin so they could kill them easier. Is that evil? fuck yeah Is that war? fuck yeah.
>>142353239
We can afford to do better now. Thats really the only difference. When we were in the throes of WW2 morality was easily discarded. They ran out of targets to bomb, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were command centers for the army of japan. Innocents died because they were working for the army. Now that we're at peace and the economy is working for us(or US) its fine to hate that sort of thing.
>>142353326
Yeah I know, Ainz does great things, he's literally a magical king who saves everyone. Tell that to the war widows and veterans who hear goats bleeting every waking second. He doesn't get to get away with his crimes.
>>142353435
>technically
>>142352897
>He
>>142353903
Sorry, forgot that the stupid rat is a girl.
Spoiler for whole Vol 10King is supposedly missing, Brain is looking for him. Nobles in shock.
Ainz is meeting with Renner and Climb later.
Ainz summons 6x level 80 Cherubs to guard him and some level 90 Eternal Undead. Summons undead calvalry and Soul Eaters to pull Albedos carriage as she goes to the Kingdom as an ambassador. Albedo orders Eight Fingers to prepare the Kingdom for takeover. Hilma given administration of Katze plains. Hilma can't eat solid food anymore. Demiurge is in Slaine Theocracy for whatever reason. Goat spawn from Vol.9 disappear (apparently they weren't permanent summons.) Death knights patrolling the city.
Nobles and administrators flee E-Rantel to the Kingdom. Elder Liches now in charge of administration, slowly learning how to do things.
Kingdom is a mess and just trying to survive. Theft of goods from warehouses during Demiurge's sack of the capital is causing problems. 180k deaths during the battle is causing big problems.
Nigredo and Pestonya freed from imprisonment for trying to protect humans. Directed to open an orphange for children of dead combatants. (This'll go over well.)
Death Knight training with Hamsuke has still learned diddly. Spikes are worn down to nubs.
Elves captured from invasion force still alive, living on Mare/Aura's floor, apparently adore the two of them and follow them around. Ainz thinks it would be a good idea for Aura/Mare to have more dark elf friends.
Albedo goes and has a chat with Renner about "girl matters", gives her some shape changing box thing.
Fluder is given a magic tome by Ainz, can't read diddly because its in Japanese (from Nazarick library?) Ends up enchanting Clementines daggers for use as weapons.
>>142353939
Part 2Ainz takes over the adventurers guild and wants to turn it into a guild that sends people to explore the unknown. The guildmaster approves greatly. They host an event in the Empire's Colosseum. Main attraction is Ainz vs the current Champion. Ainz kills him then uses a resurrection wand. Aura/Mare (forget which one) finishes the fortress in Forest of Tobb as well as underground training facility outside E-Rantel.
Ainz sees dwarven made weapons while in the Empire which piques his interest. (Premise for Vol.11 where he takes Shalltear and Aura to Dwarven Kingdom)
Jircniv in bad shape. Has to chug health potions due to stress, losing hair. Everyone blames him for the battle. Knights think he knew what Ainz's spell would do. He gets around to hosting a secret meeting with a Slaine diplomat and hired and Adamantite team Silver Bird for security. Ainz somehow walks in. Says hi to Jircniv and random guy #1.
Diplomat thinks its a double cross. Angrily leaves.
Jircniv thinks its all part of Ainz's plan. Gives up, ask for Ainz to take the Bahamut Empire as a vassal state. Silver Birds flee empire.
Demiure had laid plans to vassalize Empire in 30 days. Ainz does it in 3. Sasuga-Ainz sama.
Slaine Theocracy discussing what to do with Ainz, originally planned to help Empire take over Kingdom (Tried killing Gazef for this reason). Decide not to antagonize as they're at war with the elven nation to the south. Elves betrayed the Theocracy somehow. Kaire and other members revived, currently regaining lost exp.
Insert usual cute Abledo scenes. Ainz lets her sit on his thigh while trying to figure out where he's smelled her perfume before. Gives her a peck on the cheek later for her "mental health".
>>142353939
>king missing
Was it Renner?
>>142353825
What the fuck are you saying?
Julius Caesar is good but also evil? Charlemagne is good but also evil?
Ainz is a king who saves everyone and raises your standard of life tenfold just by existing near you but he's evil because he committed an act of war during a pitched battle? We're going to judge the past based on the present?
You said it yourself, the only difference between good and evil is whether or not we have the luxury to call something evil and whether we're on the 'right' side or not. That's my entire point - that the entire idea of evil is 'I dislike him', and people who are generally 'agreed' to be evil are those who fucked up and got themselves rekt, leaving their opponents (and people who called them evil) to write the records and spread the word of their heroic victory.
Evil in and of itself doesn't have a clear definition. I asked you to define the word so we could have a discussion that goes beyond opinions and you have failed to provide one. Does it mean killing people? Being a pacifist? Ruining the economy? Being greedy? Being altruistic? Being selfless? Being selfish? Being religious? Being cynical? Being materialistic? Being spiritualistic? Being ruthless? Being sympathetic? Caring for your family? Disregarding your family? Valuing the plebs? Valuing the scholars? Valuing the nobles? Merchants? Your friends? Valuing honor or pragmatism? Being principled or opportunistic? Being ever truthful or knowing when the lie?
>>142353961maybe he leaves the kingdom after the whole mess on katze plain
>>142353961
>Was it Renner?
I'm guessing he killed himself or something since he was hyperdepression after the debacle that was Katze plains.
>>142352073
Seraphs are the most powerful angels, and there are various types of Seraphs. But yes, Ainz did say they would have to get serious against a Seraph (the) Empyrean and it's implied that Seraph A(e)spheres are stronger than them.
However, in no case did he suggest fleeing, so the two of them could have taken it.
>>142353939Demiurge in Slane? I thought in the earlier spoilers it was said that Demi is at the Holy Kingdom
>>142353825
>thats just plebs who have a cursory understanding of the subject
Big man Charlie basically started the process of bringing Western Europe out of the Dark Ages (Migration Period and the general lack of any sort of education during that time) and fucked up the Muslims in Iberia pretty hard saving the few Christians clinging to the north.
He also assfucked the Saxons and was generally a prick to them. Stop trying to pin meme black-and-white morality labels onto people, especially anachronistic ones.
>>142354044
I sort of wish Rubedo was a Seraph Aesphere, make for some nice irony.
>>142354128
He's in the Holy Kingdom.
>>142353977
Evil and Good in their original meanings just stand for harmful and beneficial.
Person who is harmful is evil.
Person who is beneficial is good.
>>142353939
>>142353954
>Hilma can't eat solid food anymore
Jesus.
>Ainz summons 6x level 80 Cherubs to guard him and some level 90 Eternal Undead
>Cherubim
>summoned by a spooky skellington
Excuse me what
>Eternal Undead
Is this a class of being or the name of the monster?
>Has to chug health potions due to stress, losing hair
>Jircniv thinks its all part of Ainz's plan
Poor guy
>>142354135
IMO the most powerful Seraph type ought to be called Seraph Tellurian. Normally, the more "heavenly" the angel type the stronger it is. Seraph Empyrean refers to the heavens and the kanji for Seraph Aesphere refers to a pole star like Polaris, the brightest light in the sky.
In contrast, Tellurian refers toTHE WORLDand we know the Ygg devs have a hardon for that sort of thing.
>>142354192
Every caster at lvl 100 should theoretically be capable of learning 30 super magics total.
>>142353977
We just disagree. I believe the act itself is worthy of consideration alone not trying to judge a series of acts. Thats just silly, good people do bad things all the time and vice versa.
I won't define evil because you're already well aware of what bad shit is you just want to give people passes for doing bad shit based on opinion. No passes for me. I like Ainz, I can't say I wouldn't do the same in his stead, but I would do it knowing its evil shit that I did. Ainz doesn't feel that way about people who are not Nazarick though, like most people strangers aren't worth that much. To me you're placing far too much importance on making a simple 'evil/good' declaration for people like they are comic book characters, real people make shit complicated and Ainz is out for Nazarick and nothing else.
>>142353954
Holy shit that Jir bullying. Is he going to be okay?
>>142354001
Demi probably told her to do it if she didn't pull it off herself after Ainz showed up
>>142354135
uh but its exactly my point that black and white isn't the issue the act itself is
I don't think that calling an act evil means that you don't get to then say 'well yeah but it resulted in ending the war so it was worth it' or 'it increased trade so his people loved it even if thousands died'
>I sort of wish Rubedo was a Seraph Aesphere
They got this whole alchemy thing going with the names so I don't see her not being a golem plus that whole 'activate' thing scream golem mang.
>>142354189
harmful to who and beneficial to who is the question. You like the guy who gives you protection but hate the guy who's killing you
>>142354192
you nigger dont greentext spoilers
>>142354202
do we really need more angels
I mean really
sunlight scripture kind of overdid it
>>142354228
It's 1 per level after 70?
>>142354234
Angels are cool. But yeah, it's just fluff.
>>142354234
>They got this whole alchemy thing going with the names so I don't see her not being a golem plus that whole 'activate' thing scream golem mang.
A mechanical angel of destruction and rebirth; Rubedo is a Ragna-Mail.
>>142354235
Yes, though you can only use it 1 per day at the start, but you gain 1 extra use for every 10 levels.
>>142354189
And that doesn't apply at all to anyone. That's the whole point of not using those labels, because depending on who exactly you are and where you're looking from, and what you define as beneficial. Is killing some drug-addicted cripple 'beneficial' or not? If you go to war and get some of your men killed but enrich your nation as a whole is this beneficial or harmful?).
>>142354202
Seraph Aesphere and Tellurian sound like they're raidbosses, not actually summons. That or they're ritual summons that cost XP (Super Magic).summoning divine beings whensummoning anime expies whensummoning Accelerator or Uchiwa Mandala when
>>142354234
>I won't define evil because you're already well aware of what bad shit is you just want to give people passes for doing bad shit based on opinion
I'm fucking not though. If you theoretically send 1000 people to their deaths in battle for the express purpose of enriching a million or obtaining a defensible border, or take a gamble that turns out wrong and gets a million people killed, are these evil acts? The first is 'playing it safe', the second is a gamble gone wrong that will certainly be judged as evil by later people who think you should've '''''obviously'''' chosen the other choice.
If you don't even define what you're talking about, how can anyone argue with you? You're literally saying 'no this is bad evil', but you won't say why it's evil. Just admit that it's because you personally dislike what he did. That's the definition. I mean shit, Gazef killed people too, often in his stupidity, but you call him heroic. What of that?
>>142354276
So at level 100, you get 1+3 supers a day from up to 30 supers. Right.
And the whole super-tier spell system works like epic spells in D&D in that they don't interact with your usual spells but cast from their own pool.
>>142354192
Though the fact that Ainz can call Cherubim means that those summons don't seem to be alignment-locked. In D&D, most summon spells can't be used by people of the opposite alignment.
>>142354325
>Seraph Aesphere and Tellurian sound like they're raidbosses, not actually summons. That or they're ritual summons that cost XP (Super Magic).
I can see them being Super-tier summons, though definitely not raid bosses considering Ainz didn't say they would retreat if the Aesphere came out.
Raid bosses sort of imply you need multiple full parties to kill them. In that sense the World-Class Enemies would be raid bosses.
>>142354234
>do we really need more angels
Usually there are nine ranks of angels, each with their own little subdivisions.
Seraphim - Cherubim - Ophanim
Dominions - Virtues - Authorities
Principalities - Archangels - Angels
>calling an act evil
But how the fuck do you judge an action for being evil if you don't consider the context it was done in and what the intended and achieved results were?
>>142354404
Ainz said they'd fight at full strength if the Empyrean (最高天の熾天使) came out, he didn't mention Aespheres or Tellurians.
>>142354404
And, hm, Ainz mentioned that he knew Nigel's sealing crystal could store anything but super-tier magic, so he expects Aespheres and Empyreans to come from 10th-tier spells at maximum.
Perhaps the summoning spells let you call multiple weaker angels or a single stronger one, so something which could call one strong Seraph might be able to give you two weaker Seraphs or six Cherubim. Or something. The Summon Monster spells in D&D work that way, at least.
>>142354192
>>Cherubim
>>summoned by a spooky skellington
>>142354447
In the text, he said something along the lines of "I don't think they can bring out an Aesphere, but if they bring out an Empyrean, we'll have to get serious."
Implication is that Aespheres are stronger Seraphs than Empyreans.
And Tellurians are just something I was making up, sorry for confusing the issuem
>>142354542
I feel kind of bad for them to be honest
I think Ainz could've gone for bigger impact by summoning a Seraph Aesphere and saying "lads this is what we call highest of angels"
>>142354535
If the Cherubim are Ophanim it's suddenly very understandable. A lot of angels were scary as fuck, many times their first words to the people they were supposed to talk to were "Fear not".
>>142354325
>Is killing some drug-addicted cripple 'beneficial' or not?
Logic would got to say, no. It is not.
If one would argue that the drug-addicted cripple is a strain on the collective resources, then whose fault is it?
The person who gives the drug-addicted cripple those collective resources unconditionally or the drug-addled cripple?
I believe that if you should slay anyone, you should slay the one that's pissing away the collective resources.
What's the worst thing the cripple can do? Die of starvation. Besides that, the said cripple can be a resource in itself, should a suitable task be found for him that he may perform.
>If you go to war and get some men killed but enrich your nation as a whole is this beneficial or harmful?
Yes, should your nation be enriched sufficiently at the cost of those men, you did a beneficial thing to your country in short term.
However, if your enemy would return back generation or two afterwards and strike at your children in vengeance or resulting in other consequences that do offset the wealth you gained from the war, then what you did was ultimately harmful to not only to the people you conquered, but also to your own nation.
>>142354271
oh fuck I didn't even consider she could be a golem angel
it makes sense given her sisters too
>>142354325
Shits complex. I'll just say its a feelings thing and end it there, I'm going to sleep. Basically, it all comes down to feelings anyways and if it doesn't well I'm done arguing and will concede my loss.
>>142354349
I thought I read in Overlord that you get like 3 supers total and they have huge cooldowns, or maybe its just huge cooldowns and you can only use so many at once. Something in volume 3 about how you have to save them in pvp.
>Ainz can call Cherubim means that those summons don't seem to be alignment-locked
Well its never been DnD after all, just based on it, and the nigger has 800 spells and fucking sharknados so I think you have to give him a little credit that theres probably a lot of dumb shit that he can do that we don't expect he can.
>>142354447
>f you don't consider the context it was done in and what the intended and achieved results were?
good point, I forgot about that shit.
>Usually there are nine ranks of angels
I just was thinking that its kind of dumb to keep using angels when sloan is probably going to have a shitload of them
>>142354535
muh multiclass
muh utility
muh 'maybe I have to have access to light based attacks because I'll be fighting other skeletons"
>>142354542
>And Tellurians are just something I was making up
you absolute cunt
>>142354582
yeah my favorite picture and description of angels is that they are just a huge mass of wings
I've only seen the painting once though, should probably google that shit.
In Jewish tradition I think it was David who was said that he wrestled a fucking angel and won, that nigger must have rolled a nat 20 on a grapple check for that
>>142354128
Some of the info in not accurate
>>142354584
>Logic would got to say, no. It is not.
Ah the first example was meant to be personal. It was meant more to be 'this is obviously a mercy kill but the person in question refuses it', or alternatively 'the person in question wants to pull the plug but you won't do it'.
>However, if your enemy would return back generation or two afterwards and strike at your children in vengeance or resulting in other consequences that do offset the wealth you gained from the war, then what you did was ultimately harmful to not only to the people you conquered, but also to your own nation
Reasonable, but that now brings the issue of what measures are acceptable to prevent conflict.
>>142354582
Cherubim are some four-faced Ashura monstrosities while Seraphim are giant floating heads with six wings with an eye on each feather.
Mohammed literally shat himself when Gabriel turned up, and Gabriel has tits.
>>142354623
I was researching angels forBeholder Mage Girland the Ophanim design really grew on me. They're basically Eva-style monster angels that represent wisdom and running the fuck over people. And the Israelia named a tank after them (the Merkabah)
>>142354651
>Gabriel has tits
Go on...
>>142354585
Super-tier spells have shared cooldown, using Heavenfall disables using Genesis for example.
>>142354661
What is this Beholder Mage Girl I keep hearing about
Fanfiction or something? Gimme a link?
>>142354664
I'm pretty sure Gabriel is supposed to be the only feminine-looking one of the big archangels.
>>142354651
I read somewhere that Seraphs were supposed to have a draconic aspect, but there's a lot of angels out there. Like, the Ophanim/Galgalim are from Kabbalistic myth while the more conventional Cherubims amd Seraphims are from Gnostic Christianity. Or something. I just remember them by designs.
>>142354693Beholder Mage Girlis a meme of sorts, when Prologue Part 2 came out there was speculation about the identity of the 9th, the last member of the Original 9 of Nine's Own Goal who left before they became AOG. People were saying that the 9th would meet Ainz and be favorably disposed to him since they were supposed to have known each other for a while.
I submitted that the 9th was Beholder Mage Girl and I've been planning actual fanfic about her, but the chinks released v10 intermission so guess what I've been rushing.
And the topic of angels is very appropriate because it's about the Slaine Theocracy
