Can you guys show me some examples of what forced animation looks like? I don't get it.
>nichijou.webm
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mw9s9nkuE30
DogaKobo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru5EKWP25FY
>mfw the technical aspects of anime have gotten so bad, anything that shows a trifle of effort is called "forced animation"
>>142215087
>.gif
Someone post that girl trying to eat.
>>142215087
Fucking this. Kyoani really overdid it.
>>142215303
This one?
Forced animation is the dumbest shit ive ever heard if its like hiring a contractor to make you a wall and then he makes a perfect wall and you say "that was forced construction" so the wall is bad because you did too good of a job. You virgins should kill yourselves.
I can show you a personal example of forced anal penetration.
>>142215241
>>142215351
God these are awful
>>142215241
This one is rotoscoped.
>>142215366
no forced construction would be if he built you a wall with studs every 4 inches and painted a mural on it when he was done
>>142215241
Looks like rotoscope.
>>142215409
The first one's shit, but the problem isn't that it's "too good" or some dumb shit, it's that it's rotoscoped badly. I honestly find the second one really arousing and don't see the issue.
Forced animation is the meme term for something with bad choreography but lots of keyframes so it comes out looking jerky and/or unnatural.
>>142215351
Yeah. Looks like a neurological defect.
>>142215235
Man should I watch Joshiraku?
>>142215450
The issue in the second one is that she's having a stroke and a seizure at the same time trying to eat fucking chicken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZmXK87tWlQ
>>142215534
And it looks arousing, so I don't give a shit.
>>142215241
fuck
>>142215552
Jesus christ those mouths.
>>142215366
build wall Paco
>>142215552
Literally Kyoani-tier of animation
>>142215566
I don't like that!
>>142215552
This actually looks awesome.
Is this forced animation or good animation?
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/11959
I hate it when a character movement looks like they're punching underwater.
Or a mundane shot has so many unnecessary frills and the camera spins around like a Michael Bay movie.
It's hard to describe but sometimes less is more.
>>142215441
If he doest charge extra that sounds pretty good.
>>142215823
Everything is great until she starts having the seizure.
>>142215452
That is not how /a/ use it though.
>>142216045
This is just as good as how bad YOU think it is.
I fail to see how this is bad.
>>142215441
what is the issue if its the same price
>>142216361
because that is not what you wanted. you just wanted a simple plain beige wall.
>>142215441
No. Forced construction would be if they built a garbage wall that's not up to code and will fall over in a stiff breeze but plastered it with gold leaf to try and distract you from how shit the wall is.
>>142216322
in the beginning she is moving awkwardly in relation to the background and foreground. But it isn't really an example of over animation
>>142216457
Says you, I loved the "forced" animation in Nichijou
although I'll admit
>>142215351
>>142215241
these look retarded
>>142215087
>Mocking Nichijou
>>142216045
It's got some ice-skating and directing issues, but the animation is fine in isolation.
>>142216564
nichijou isn't forced animation though, and I never implied that
>>142216684
Sorry, I confused you with the first anon who replied and everyone accusing kyoani of this.
>>142216529
That's just how it is when you're trying to match a 3D background with higher framerate than a 2D character. Shit like The Beauty and The Beast or Who Framed Roger Rabbit are pretty much the only examples done right, because they did the 2D in 1s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qtTPTxvoPA
Still, looks good enough and I didn't find it awkward at all, just noticeable.
>>142216910
Fuck off.
>>142216910
Go back to your shitty home board
>>142216910
This is why we can't have nice things.
>>142216910
kill yourself
>>142216910
Stay in your board fagit
Overuse of animation quality to force a point upon the viewer that it is to be taken seriously.
>>142217024
cute foot
A girl falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, she is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, she immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on her as well.
But, the next day, when she recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at her with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, she finds out that the girl she called is not the same girl she fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of YURI.
>>142217124
I want to use Kumiko's hair as a pillow
>>142215058
From what I understand forced animation is when something that doesn't need much movement or focus gets it and is overblown.
>>142215513
>forced animation
>>142215241
That's not forced animation, that's just a bad rotoscope
>>142217192
Anon, that joke seriously doesn't work with a shitty gif cutting the framerate by half.
>>142215241
>that lurch and top-heavy center of gravity at 0:11
You can tell that the animators were using themselves as models
>>142215087
i guess nichijou is TECHNICALLY forced animation, but the idea there is kinda to purposely depict things they do as extremely as possible
i don't really get the impression that >>142215351 is supposed to be extreme, just that it's cancer
>>142215552
rip zellers
>>142217281
>lingering four-second shot of a girl wrestling a piece of chicken off a fork
That's deliberately exaggerated. 100%.
>>142217281
>technically forced animation
>technically
>forced animation
>>142216045
if the background in that scene is all 3d, why can't they just tweak it until they get it right?
>>142217281
I think you may have made the mistake of taking memes seriously.
>>142217402
Time is money
>>142217402
It's 3D in the sense of 3DPD/rotoscoping, not in the sense of CG.
>>142217402
Because time is money, friend.
>>142217402
See >>142216750
To 'get it right' they'd require to draw twice as many frames in the character.
I think people came up with the forced animation meme because of shows that had budget, and therefore could put in more detailed animation, but put it in erratically and in unusual places. That, and they could afford more animation but didn't actually bother hiring skilled animators.
There's nothing wrong with detailed animation throughout an entire show if it looks good and is consistent, or if it's not consistent (due to budget) it's used either in situations that actually have more motion, or for comic effect.
The idea that a show can have too much detailed animation on it's own is absurd though.
>>142217589
>All these flashes hiding the uninteresting choreography and basic 2D character animation
I get triggered every time someone says Ufotable makes good animation.
>>142217589
Fuck you I liked it
>>142217671
I don't see a problem with it, it's what gets kids excited way more than smooth animation. It's got to be a bit flashy (no double meaning intended).
>>142215058
>>142217174
Yeah its basically this, however retards will call any type of character animation forced regardless of whether it really is.
>>142217660
A sensible person on /a/?
A fucking miracle
>>142216045
Fucking background is weird and distracting.
>>142217924
It isn't.
>>142217124
You would think the moeshit is killing anime meme would have died out by now.
A quick look at /a/ will show you otherwise though. Why do so many people still think that anime is dying? Anime has been on its deathbed since its inception if these people were to be believed. So far however anime has never been raking in more money than now, nor has there ever been so much choice. Do only contrarian people who want to bait (you)'s make the posts about moe killing anime/anime dying? Nobody actually honestly holds the opinion that anime is on its last legs do they? I don't want to believe this entire board has turned into a a big joke where hating the hobby is just the cool thing to do.For the longest time I have believed people ignoring all the great anime of the last years are doing so to troll, but I am starting to think it is genuine.
>>142217124
>>142217671
But no one says Ufotable has good animation, they excel in sound design.
>>142217124Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>142215058
I haven't posted this GIF in a while, so here.
>>142218109
But where's the animation?
>>142216045
The only forced there is when she yell at nobody
>>142217124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QSdNSc-F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEQowCf_DL0
>>142218063
No one outside of /a/ maybe because I like to believe we know better. Go to any other anime forum and they'd hold them on high regard when discussing animation.
>>142218396
I didn't find her annoying like the rest of /a/ when this was airing but this scene was too much, I wanted to punch her face so bad.
![[Coalgirls]_Keit-Ai_2_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)[64902BDF].webm](https://i.imgur.com/QQSlznr.jpg "[Coalgirls]_Keit-Ai_2_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)[64902BDF].webm")
>>142217124
Finds a way and an on-topic example for OP.
>>142217984
Holy shit
>>142217984
That's awesome what are you talking about.
>>142217671
Eh. Even if you stripped away the digital effects there, it still has better animation than most TV anime could achieve.
Nozomu Abe's cuts in that show are wonderful, you can't generalize the animation work of an entire studio.
>>142218661
>it still has better animation than most TV anime could achieve.
What animation? It's all just very generic sword clashing, just a step above DBZ looping punches.
>>142218722
it's good bro
>>142218600
The best part is that it's a fucking hentai
>>142217990
The background and the character doesn't match.
>>142218661
He's shitposting, stop responding.
>>142218722
What about this one
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/14712/3d_background-animated-cgi-effects-fate_series-fat
>>142218722
It's sword clashing with various poses as the camera rotates around them to emphasize the weight of the blows. That's not DBZ-tier animation.
Ok, let's start at the beginning, and I mean, let's go WAAAAAAAAAY back. I'm talking Plato.
According to Plato there are different parts of theater and all of them have a purpose.
The plot
The characters
thought (the motivation of the characters)
diction (the quality of the words used)
melody (pointless today, we don't write plays/film to rhyme anymore)
and last and certainly least: spectacle.
Spectacle refers to the costumes, the props, the visual effects to use a modern term. It is the least inspiring part of a piece, the least important, the least artistic.
Basically Plato argued that poor playwrights try to disguise poor writing with spectacle but spectacle cannot save a bad play and if it does it's a bad thing that it did, only appealing to the basest of human pleasure.
George Lucas should have listened to Plato.
So, if we follow Plato, 'forced animation' is anything where the directors/producers try and use animation to hide a bad story and hope that the audience watches it and enjoys it for all the wrong reasons.
Plato's spectacle folks.
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/poetics.html
>>142218855
>implying /a/ based a meme off of Plato's thoughts on theatre
>>142215058
Forced animation is basically when they try to force a kind of emotion, idea, or mood through intense animation rather than through a combination of setting, sound, theme, animation, and above all good directing.
It's a classic example of spending all your budget on pretty animation while sacrificing everything else, resulting in an overall mediocre product. Kyoani are the biggest offenders, go watch Kyoukai no Kanata or Haruhi if you want to see what forced animation looks like.
>>142218939
Haruhi movie?
>>142218855
Plato obviously never saw the newest Mad Max film. There's an entire genre in spectacle.
>>142218931
Whether they did or not is irrelevant. It's what they were trying to figure out, like ignorant children in a dark room searching for a light switch. Something felt wrong to some people and the words they came up with was 'forced animation'
>>142218931
/a/ is NEETs
Philosophy majors become NEETs
QED
I don't think so-called forced animation is bad, what really sucks is when shows spend their animation budget poorly. Always sucks when you see some random filler joke moment get 11/10 budget and then something like a pivotal moment or climatic fight have QUALITY. Long-running shounen were notorious for it.
>>142217124
>>142219010
You make a valid point my friend. And while we can respect Plato's opinions we don't need to agree with them.
>>142218939
Nigga that's not how you use the word "example." Go to sleep.
>>142217281
>i guess nichijou is TECHNICALLY forced animation
this is the dumbest thing i've ever read
>mfw the eternal KyoAni butthurt
>>142219039
I have a degree in film ... basically ... yeah. I did work briefly in commercials, I also worked on a few budget films, one went to Sundance, made tens of millions of dollars for a few people that were not me. Most of my college buddies either work in editing, on youtube channels, or or video games.
>>142219216
>I have a degree in film
Why do people degree in something that is based on talent to begin with? That's like getting a degree in music or degree in business, like why? Degrees are for specialized fields that have to be learned.
>>142218980
what the fuck
>>142219216
>I have a degree in film
If people on /a/ were actually using "forced animation" to mean something with value, it wouldn't be used half as much as it is now. If anyone here wants to actually describe what they see as forced animation, avoid the term. Since its inception it's been used to bait.
The term only holds the value of what people understand it to mean, and its repeated misuse has reduced the term to mean something as vague as "fancy animation," only with an inexplicable negative connotation. As much as you might like a concise term like this to use, it doesn't exist. /a/ has run it into the ground and it means a hundred different things to a hundred different people, as this thread shows.
tl;dr Kill this meme.
>>142218969
that show sucked so much ass.
nichijou, unfunny shit with forced animation
>>142219265
Films and music still take knowledge and skill to make, especially as they increase in sophistication and complexity. Lots of great directors and composers went to school for their field.
>>142218826
Weight? What weight for fucks sake? If you want animation with weight go look at someone like Nakamura for example.
>>142218826
That's even worse.
They all follow the same pattern, you can't see a fluid motion between poses because there's barely any. That's why I compare it to DBZ looping punches.
>>142215058
When people don't like a show that is well animated they say it has "forced" animation in an attempt to strip it of any potential value.
>>142217281
>TECHNICALLY forced animation
>>142219265
You're an idiot. Talent only applies to how quickly you learn something, not what you've learned. You act like these degrees have no subject matter. There's theory behind art. You don't get a degree in music for writing a catchy song. You get a degree for understanding the subject at a deep level.
>>142219545
>hey, this post has a lot of replies saying the same thing!
>I can help!
Fuck off.
>>142219546
Found the liberal arts major.
The only "art" that takes a lot of technical learning, enough to warrant a degree, would be something like 3d modelling and animation, or to a lesser extent web design (although html5 can be mastered in about a week).
>>142217984
What the hell. This doesn't make any sense at all.
>>142215823
That blew my mind the first time I saw it since I didn't expect it out of such a low-budget show as Nanoha season 1.
Same guy also did the infamous Becky transformation scene in Dog Days as well as a couple other scenes for the same show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kusB5tT-JLE
Well there is people here who call Rho Aias Vs Gae Bolg as "forced animation", "bad animation" and "CGI shit", so it's just last blatant way for low quality shitposting. And don't forget about Dunning Kruger effect victims from /ic/
>forced colors
>forced character design
Anything made by Kyoani is forced animation simply because they have no fucking idea how the body actually works, they're just filthy otaku who have no experience with how the world works.
In essence, they are the people ghibli man is angry at.
>>142219832
>>142219832
Half of KyoAni is women so you might want to change that statement to filthy fujoshis, not that it matters though since you're completely wrong.
>>142219913
Why, women can't be otaku? Are you sexist?
>>142219934
>women can't be otaku
Not him but yes, this is true,
>>142219606
I'm a computer science major.
But the content of the classes in these degrees in not simply practice. They teach technical topics, even though it's not required to practice the art. Just because it's possible to write good music without theory does not somehow mean theory doesn't exist. The degrees you get in any art are a collection of concrete topics that aide one in creating or critiquing art. Just like I had to learn calculus to earn my computer science degree, it's one of many supporting ideas that contribute to a degree.
Not all art requires understanding theory. Not all software requires understanding calculus.
You don't think of theory as "technical", fine. The people who give, receive, and use the knowledge gained from an arts degree disagree.
You don't go to fucking "talent" class at art school.
>>142219687
>off topic is fine
Forced animation is what salty idiots call shows that have better animation than their favorite show or studio can produce.
>>142217984
Wow
>>142220313
I liked this scene, it had more animation than the rest of the season though.
itt: kyoanus defence force
>>142217984
Fucking based Umetsu
Forced animation isn't a thing and the flimsy explanations you invent to justify your nonsense word are painfully dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJeDetA45Q
>Kyoani is widely regarded as best animators in the industry
>/a/ calls them forced animation
Does this mean forced animation is actually a good thing
>>142220313
hahahhahaha
She's acting like she's getting attacked by birds of something. The fear is palpable.
>>142220526
maybe /a/ is always wrong
>>142220526citation needed
>>142220526
Not best, but most consistent. They're good but a couple of steps below the best animators in the industry.
>>142220526
Always do the opposite of what /a/ says.
>>142220567
Best KnK episode, no joke.
>>142220461
When will this masterpiece air?
>>142215915
>posting a still image of a scene that intentionally uses forced animation
why
>>142220567
Not forced animation, but forced moe. This turns me off of watching any more of the show than I already have.
at least we're all in agreement that forced drama is a thing right?
>>142220461
>3 days in
>50k views from catching up to KnK's PV which has been up for more than a month
>>142223002
No, there's good animation and bad animation
>>142223049
I want ESLs to leave /a/
>>142223324
Whoops, misread "forced drama" as "forced animation"
>>142215513
watch it for the ED
>>142220719
most likely Spring
>yfw Kyoani is animating Hibike S2, Koe no Katachi, and VEG all in a row while most studios struggle to animate one show.
>>142217589
The bad part about this isn't forced animation so much as the lack of weight behind everything.
They tried to make it look like all their strikes are really powerful with the flashing lights and screen shake, but the characters themselves move as if there's no weight in their weapons and no force behind their attacks.
>>142217589
Abe's been better at effects than character animation; I get it if people don't like it for looking more like a dance, but at least the sequence plays to the animator's strength with the abundance of effects animation.
>>142223942
Eh, some studios churn out a lot of shows a season and some manage to have decent animation, see JC Staff and A1 for example. KyoAni's strength is their scheduling, which is why there are so many seasons without a KyoAni show airing. VEG, KnK, and Hibike are still a great lineup though.
>>142220536
I always thought they looked like they have to pee really bad, but I like your interpretation too
>>142217124
this tbqh familia
>>142220021
>liberal arts
Kek now tell us how important it is to get a degree in animation and how calarts is saving the world
>>142215058
My guess is a fluid animation that doesn`t look like natural at all.
>>142215058
I'm sure that hibikeks don't have that shit.
>>142215058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ReoBPl4mM
>>142223002
Nah, that's just a euphemism for "thing I didn't like".
The idea that drama can be 'forced' implies that there's a natural, correct way for a story to unfold, which the author derailed. People who believe that are the same people who think they could write a best-selling novel because "I'll just avoid all the common mistakes".
>>142216750
>Beauty and The Beast's CG
>good
Shit feels like watching IMAX footage shot from a cropduster even though it's only supposed to emulate a simple crane shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0JVAeSibc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNj9D6amefA
How does it feel when China is starting to have more and more better animation?
>>142215058
Kyo ani haters think that somehow trying to convey characters feeling and personality through animation instead of a monologue is a bad thing
>>142226044
that second one gives some major ghibli vibes, looks p good
>>142216045
This looks amazing and you're a retard.
>>142215058
No because it's just a meme /a/ made up.
>>142217212
>>142217212
>>142217212
>>142217671
But they do make good animation. Not the best, and they cover some of it with flashy effects, but the animation is still really good.
>>142219789
terrible
>>142216045
This is fine and nothing feels forced and I am not a even a Kyoanifag.
These however, are pretty shit.
>>142215823
>>142215351
>>142218980
I am still wondering whether this is a roto or legit animation.
>>142228605
I have the same question.
>>142215241
>oh shit
>I'm sorry
>>142219475
source?
yes, i searched
>>142220313
The animation is appropriate there because the mood is supposed to be frantic.
Does anyone have the webm of the girl crying on the street that looks like she's having a seizure from some recent anime I don't know.
>>142226044
Oh shit, I can watch actual Chinese cartoons
>>142218939
>>142218976
>Haruhi
I bet you faggots are thinking about this.
Feel free to add some uninformed bullshit about 60 fps.
>>142225278
I rather disagree with this.
While I think that forced drama is indeed too often used to describe "drama I don't like" or even "any drama happening at all", I do think it can be forced. And it's often for the sake of creating some sort of season or midseason closer, or to be used as a vehicle for one or two characters' development or backstory exposition, at the expense of other characters involved. And don't forget to throw in lots of gray and rainy weather.
It's a bit complicated, but I think that forced drama is a term with at least a good amount more legs than something like "forced animation".
>>142229362
Forced drama = contrived drama
>>142215552
But the forced animation here is a stylistic choice made to make everything look over exaggerated on purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGayvkO7hX0
Nichijou-defenders really need to gtfo already. That show was painfully unfunny.
>>142215058
>>142229539
Fuck you man, this actually looks great
>>142229494
I'm laughing just watching that. The punchline at the end is pretty funny, too.
Sorry you didn't like it, though.
>>142229539
post 2011 webm
>>142229539
holy shit what is this
>>142217671
This so fucking much.
Ufotable are the biggest cheaters in the industry. They can't animate for shit and hide everything under flashy and well done CG.
>>142229666
By the way, Im 12 years old
>>142215351
This is really only the real example of forced animation in this thread
>>142215058
It's a term you use when you dislike a well-animated show, but can't find any actual flaw with it, so all you can do is complain about how good its animation is.
>>142218063
Even on /a/ they get praised for good animation a lot. I want to throw up every time I see UBW or F/Z listed as show with best animation or graphics of their respective years and it happens far too often to write it off as "But no one says".
>>142218722
>What animation?
Are you dumb, bro?
This isn't live action. The camerawork involved in that scene is not easy.
By the way, I'm no Fatefag, nor have I even watched the show in question. It just bothers me when sometimes, the people who criticize animation know nothing about it.
>>142215241
they rotoscoped dudes, not girls
>>142229572
>this one doesn't count because it's an old show and it's not about cute girls!
>>142229700
???????????????????
>>142229790
What are you even on about?
>>142218826
The camera movements are used to avoid actually animating the characters, it's really obvious.
>>142229808
>>142229835
Why did this show even get sequels?
>>142229539
This shit is great, the TV and first OVA honestly impressed me multiple times when I watched them this year. Too bad later two OVAs sucked.
>>142229790
The cute girl is visible even in the thumbnail, shitposter-kun.
>>142217185
the only good thing i got from this show was a pretty sick beat
>>142229891
Korea happened for one episode. Everyone quickly realized how much of a mistake it was.
>>142229917
The show had lots of outsourcing, but it's more like one of the teams couldn't deliver their work on time so that episode was rushed.
>>142229015
Did you really, Anon? Google says it's Darker than Black.
>>142218855
Plato was wrong.
these are bad
>>142215241
>>142215351
these are just fine
>>142216045
>>142219475
bretty gud
>>142217984
does this count as forced animation? Clearly they wanted to do more here but failed to deliver.
>>142220313
so this is where Shafts animation budget went after all this time
>>142230164
the animation itself is fine, the background is not as he jumps off into infinity
>>142230164
The funny thing is the raw key animation looks less awkward in the final cut, somehow it doesn't match up with the layout in the final product.
>>142230164
Yeah but not as bad as some examples in the thread. The character movements are too exaggerated and look weird.
>>142229609
>We get a Yotsuba anime at last
>It isn't about Yotsuba
>It's about that cardboard thing
>Yotsuba isn't even in it
It sucks to be alive.
>>142217124
>Keitæ„› OST
OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfdfinG_P8
ED1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDNGS9V4Us
ED2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DyTjrruVo
OP Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NShEKYoPXw
ED 1 Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIX9aoN7g4o
ED 2 Full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woiMYzVTl9c
>>142230164
No. That's just bad animation.
I got your forced animation right here.
>>142230348
That's not bad, really.
>>142229609
What punchline?
>>142229917
>>142229835
>>142229700
Did it seriously look this bad in the anime? I don't remember it looking that bad at all, damn.
>>142229700
I think that still feels too natural
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhmBnaEcbfA
>>142230348
It's really forcedmy boner.
>>142230540
Fake andgay
>>142230420
ogotte yarou
>>142230164
This looks weird. Also his head is to small when he looks over as she takes his paper.
>>142229539
That's not 'forced,' inappropriate, or weird at all.
>>142215351
Dogakobo clearly didn't like L&L, they only had great animation for her and fiery blondie.
>>142217281
It's not, the animators are not forcing anything the writers never tried to depict. You can say the premise of the scenes may be forced exaggeration, but the animation is fine and they actually animate everything as a whole rather well. Nichijou didn't just have a big budget they blew on lel girl fall over now atom bomb scenes, they maintained a consistent level of quality for the whole show.
>>142220567
This was great. Didn't feel rotoscope do, at all.
>>142231907
Fuck, that's Dogakobo too?
I haven't watched much of the series since, but I remember the first episode of Sansha Sanyou being pretty bad in in terms of a few jarringly overanimated scenes as well. The webm also doesn't convey the fact that the lip sync was off in a couple of these scenes, too. It was really unnerving.
It's like the studio is really trying to corner the market on this kind of thing.
>>142226044
>CUC Anima
Mmmmmm....
>>142218980
That is definitely rotoscoped.
>>142218969
Beautiful animation wasted on a mediocre show.
>>142219010
The difference is that Fury Road is competently made, so its not spectacle covering up a non-existent core (like Avatar, which is a special effects piece with the bare minimum of depth required to be a movie).
I mean, I liked Fury Road because I liked the action but it did a good job preventing it from being a complete clusterfuck
>>142232525
Why does she run like that
Why are people posting good examples of animation? There's only a few bad ones like this:>>142215823 and some rotoscoped ones.
That's not 'forced'though? Are you guys so used to anime trying to cut corners and moving mouths on still images that when you see something animated you don't know what to do with yourselves anymore?
