It was bad, but not that bad.
It was that bad, but not THAT bad.
Not as bad as super
It was THAT bad, but not T H A T bad
I doubt you were the only one, there are other homosexuals on /a/ afterall.
It was B A D, but not THAT bad*.
It had 1 cool fight with that random dude that never showed up again.
>>142141548
>Am i the only one
Kill yourself
The entirety of the Baby and Evil Dragon arcs were 7/10 and the Super 17 arc was 3/10
I think that literal Dragon Balls themselves are the final boss is a great idea.
>>142141548
it was shit, but better than Super.
Am I the only one that like GT's final super saiyan transformation? it seems like most people hated it.
>>142141548
Well, GT is not THAT bad compare to Super. I like SSJ4's design though.
Dragon ball GT sales were pretty good:
DRAGON BALL GT
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
BOX 27,233 **,*** 31,696 05.06.15
01巻 12,391 16,523 26,273 08.02.06
02巻 11,027 14,868 23,481 08.02.06
03巻 14,646 17,545 22,217 08.03.05
04巻 14,207 17,024 21,490 08.03.05
05巻 13,252 16,734 20,958 08.04.02
06巻 13,206 16,819 22,157 08.04.02
07巻 12,805 16,562 20,451 08.05.09
08巻 12,341 16,113 20,195 08.05.09
09巻 12,782 15,288 18,101 08.06.04
10巻 12,639 15,175 18,511 08.06.04
11巻 12,808 15,587 19,667 08.06.04
Even better than ○DRAGON BALL
>>142144083
GT was an original anime, Z and the 1st one weren't.
>>142144083
Super sales are pretty bad
ドラゴンボール超 【BOX全 巻】
巻数 初動 発売日
BD(DVD)
BOX1 *,664(*,486) 15.12.02 ※合計 1,150枚
BOX2 *,681(*,584) 16.03.02 ※合計 1,265枚
BOX3 *,***(*,***) 16.07.02
>>142141548
I loved GT more than DBZ.
>>142141548
the plot would have worked better if:
Goku stayed as an adult
Went on an adventure with vegeta and met some space girl that had promise to be powerful and was powerful, at least as much as frieza at that point in time.
If most of villians were not stupid powerful for no reason, meaning strong as Majin buu i mean common. The first villian was stronger than goku, I know what I said but hear me out. Remember the first part of frieza saga every one was basically hiding from frieza making it more exciting? Shit like that but not with all of the Main villian's henchmen being stronger than Majin buu.
No time limit on the dragonball search, have a fucking adventure, and yes you can keep ssj4 in as the final transformation nothing higher.
ssj4 looks better than super saiyan god. I always thought that super saiyan god should have had a tail and fur, I mean, saiyans are part monkey, so shouldn't their god form reflect that?
>>142145116
>Oozaru
>being at all God like
Being apeshit angry is not the characteristics of a God.
Has Super reached the point where people now agree that GT is better?
>>142145205
are you retarded?
I said super saiyan 4 looks better than extra red kaioken, what are you talking about?
I love SSJ4, but, I'll be honest, the design isn't what SSJ should look like
If it was something like this, it would be cool.
>>142145205
The original Super Saiyan was an ape.
>>142145205
>Being apeshit angry is not the characteristics of a God.
you haven't met the god from the old testament.
>>142141548
It was pretty good about bringing something new to the table, but just as much so in wasting those concepts entirely.
That being said,Para Para Brothers. It could most definitely be that bad sometimes.
>>142144355
Same here.
I liked that it went back to traveling and exploring, the first saga with child Goku gathering the dballs was incomparably better than Z.
Z was all about power levels and screaming to reach a higher power level.
I've always been fond of both space and travels, so GT was great for me.
Granted, it had some bullshit in the mix, it's nowhere near as bad as people say.
And SSJ4 form is based as fuck, unlike those ridiculous colour kek-hair "god" forms in Super.
>>142145299
The whole point of SSJ4 was to go full circle, the Golden Oozaru form is "controlled" in order to go SSJ4.
> I always thought that super saiyan god should have had a tail and fur
>let's give the form that is supposed to have a calm mind and God ki, characteristics from a form that was pure rage
Growing a tail just for a form is stupid.
>>142145357
The original SSG had a tail, but was in Saiyan form, not Oozaru form.
>>142145116
The giant monkey thing is kind of a primitive state. It makes sense that a god form created by Saiyans that basically went against the race's nature would look very different. In the same way that we get Universe 6 Saiyans losing their monkey tails altogether through evolution.
>>142141548
DAN DAN KOKORO HIKARETEKU
>>142145573
>I liked that it went back to traveling and exploring
The problem with that is that the exploration in Dragonball always result in relevant encounters, with new allies and enemies. Red Ribbon's muscle tower was basically the only exception. The exploration in GT was all irrelevant one shot crap, with no recurring foes met or new allies introduced aside from the very beginning and ending.
>>142145593
But SSJ4 isn't about rage, it's about have full control of the ape.
>>142145678
Have control over the Oozaru form, which means you are channelling the rage the Oozaru form in a controlled manner.
No matter which way you word it, it isn't suitable for a God form with a calm mind.
>>142145331
What? SSJ4 was the best part, since it finally tied Goku's name together with his legend. The whole series started as a comedy based around the Monkey King's adventure, fuck, Goku even had his weapon and all. But Toriyama never did anything more with the character after that, so GT went the perfect way, making Goku literally look like the Monkey King after his final transformation.
>>142141548
GT had a few great ideas but bad executions. The show was pretty much the "Goku saves the day while the others remain utterly useless", plus turning Goku into a little kid was really fucking dumb in concept and execution.
>>142145593
Oh my god, get Akira's dick out of your mouth.
I thought the form looked better. First time on /a/, last time on /a/. I didn't know someone would full sperg weeb mode on me immediately.
>>142145785
>have an ill-informed opinion
>complain when anons tell you that it makes no fucking sense
Sasuga crossboarder
>>142145761
Yeah, it was inspired first by the monkey king, but Dragon Ball became its own thing later on.
>>142145842
It wasn't ill informed you retard. I liked the look of super saiyan 4 more than super saiyan god, are you really that far from humanity that the concept of subjectivity no longer occurs to you?
I dare you to rewatch the utter pile of garbage that is GT. I'm a Dragon Ball fanboy, I would eat whatever shit Toei or Toriyama decided to throw at me, but GT is just TERRIBLE. The plot, the pacing, the fights, the animation (yes rewatch it), everything is a big mess.
>>142145928
Super is just as bad.
>>142144083
>>142144245
What went wrong?
>>142145609
I guess I see your point. I still always thought that the form should really look like an ultimate saiyan. I don't mind the new god forms, I just thought they were a little uninspired.
>>142145923
>i like something
>i think a form should have been to my tastes despite not making sense thematically
Also, please note I said ill-informed opinion, I'm well aware this is subjective to your tastes anon.
>>142145842
capped for cringe thread
>>142145975
Notice how I didn't mention Super at all in my comment. But since you bring it up, no, Super is not as bad. Is is still shit? Yes, but entertaining shit at least. Post Movie Arcs episodes have been fun so far.
>>142146014
Well, I agree that it's uninspired though. Toriyama vetoed the original SSJ God design, which would be a more complex design with a new outfit popping up with the transformation, but I don't think his answer was that good either.
At least a transformation that makes a new outfit appear would make it stand out visually from the SSJ variations, and gods have been shown to make cloths appear in dragonball anyway
>>142146033
Ah the connoisseur of anime.
Again, this is all subjective. How is that not thematic? You can't just make up some bullshit that somehow gives an objective indication that Super Saiyan 4 doesn't look better than super saiyan god. That's all I fucking said. I like the form better, I thought it would have looked cooler. All you're doing is getting mad because someone disagrees about what form looks better. Holy fuck go outside. Get over yourself.
Cya anon.
>>142141548
The space arc really is that bad.
After that, it has its moments, though it's never nearly as good as Z. Except for the ending, which is amazing.
>>142146106
>dude super saiyan god should have a tail.
Literally what you said.
>>142146058
Yeah I did like the tournament. I know you didn't mention super I was starting a dialogue.
Anyway, personally I think the poor animation has been holding it back a lot. It is entertaining, I found GT to be lethargic almost. It felt like it was all filler until baby and Omega Shenron.
>>142146106
>i always thought that super saiyan god should have had a tail and fur, I mean, saiyans are part monkey, so shouldn't their god form reflect that?
Opening the topic for discussion.sperging out when people tell you why not. Kill yourself
>>142146106
Dont ignore me swine.
>>142146144
>what the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little desu. I'll have you know I masturbated to hatsune miku 14 times in the last three hours and I know everything there is to know about thematic decisions in anime. YOU DARE CHALLENGE ME WITH A DIFFERENT OPINION!?111
Well guess what kiddo, I've been a neet weaboo my entire life and I know how to argue with greentext and act like I am picking you to pieces. That's what you get for making me feel self aware about my baby penis!!!
>>142146106
See
>>142146144
I never mentioned anything about God looking better than SSJ4, feel free to read it back, I said nothing about your first statement. I simply mentioned that God shouldn't resemble Oozaru, a counter argument to your second statement.
>>142146349
Sasuga.
>>142146169
The animation and the shiny artstyle is my only major complaint with Super. It doesn't have the tension and dramatic effect that made me enjoy Z so much, but it has a lot of old Dragon Ball comedy and it's very comfy. I like that Super doesn't take itself so seriously.
>>142146186
Stop samefagging.
Yes, I did. Do you not see who is sperging here?
The guy that went from 0-100 with this insane enlightened speech about how wrong I was for liking a different design.
Get over yourselves oh my god. One of you needs to stop replying or something. Wow you like different things from an animuu, big deal.
Do you all need to sperg out and then act like the other person is being autistic. You all are.
>>142146431
That might change in the next arc though.
Apparently it is supposed to be dark, and it's bringing back future trunks which is pretty cool.
I just don't know how they can transition to that.
>>142146741
I love that they are bringing back Future Trunks, he's one of my favorite characters. But I can't imagine Super being dark, I wonder how that is gonna work.
>>142146857
Probably some death.
I'm calling death on Krillin, Piccolo, or even Goku considering his Ki disorder.
I really want a classic dbz style fight where even the vastly weaker humans pitch in to try and stop the villain. I miss those fights the most, and we haven't really gotten anything like that since Frieza saga.
It was better than Super so far
>>142146932
Namek is my favorite Arc, because there is an inpending sense of doom during most of it. The fight are amazing and you can even feel the blows. The protagonists are at a disadvantage the whole time and face life or death situations. They even resort to fighting dirty. I really doubt Super can pull off something like that, but I'd like to see them try.
>>142147266
yeah, if they do it might be very intense.
People fighting dirty and desperately with the power to destroy the entire universe. It can be done well, it just requires the writers not doing the wait for Goku technique and this time have everyone do their part against the main baddy., even if it's useless.
>>142141548
Same. Personally I liked it more than Super
>>142141718
Are there anyone here who unironically like this shit?
>>142146932
>>142147266
Depending on how this Goku Black arc goes we could get something like Namek again. I guess it'll depend on whether people will travel to Trunks future to face Goku Black, or if Goku Black will just time travel back to the present too somehow.
How can anyone hate SSJ4?
>>142146431
The problem is, Goku, Gotenks, Vegeta, Mr Buu and Gohan (in no particular order) were already the top dogs of their universe at the end of Z, so it was hard to bring a new threat powerful enough to bring tension anyway.
Heck, even with all the "lolGohan is pathetic and weak" bandwagon, he's still in the top ten most powerful being in 7th universe.
And it's even worse with the new power-up Veggie and Goku got.
>>142148684
I don't hate it, but I don't like it. But I'm a faggot that like simplicity and SSJ4 is a bit too over the top for my taste.
>>142148325
Dragonball Super episode 5? Probably not. There are other episodes too though.
>>142141548
DAN DAN KOKORO HIKARETERU
>>142149294
That scene is fucking gorgeous, and that entire fight was so much better than the film's.
>>142141548
No the furry community is very vocal about the things they like.
>>142148684
It badass form.
>>142148684
>Eyeliner
>Pink furr
>Magical pants
Not everyone can gay and or a bronny
It's a lot better than Super, at least.
>>142150108
Vegeta's pant was his normal pants
>>142141548
>GTfags
>B-But at least is better that Super right guys?
Every time.
>>142141548
Cool Saiyan power-up, Baby had a solid background in that slightly campy 80s sci-fiesque thing DBZ had going for it, delicious Pan, HFIL revenge was almost cool barring wasted potential, the idea of the evil Shenrons was also solid.
Really I just like the villains they introduced the most.
>>142151044
That's the problem with GT, it's all good ideas with garbage, fanfic execution. Most people defending GT haven't watched it since it aired in their country, they just remember the outline and forget how terrible things were done and how many episodes it took.
>>142141548
Not until I watched Super, now I hate to agree.
>>142149294
>Goku Super Saiyan can fight evenly with Beerus
>Super Saiyan Blue is supposed to be a lot stronger
>Still not stronger than Beerus
>Multiply SSB times 10 with Kaioken
>s-still not stronger than Beerus... pls believe me (t. Toriyama)
>>142153178
You have to realize, most people "defending" GT aren't defending it at all, they're just saying it's better than Super. That's not high praise.
