Is Nichijou entry level anime? I'm arguing with someone right now, and he's saying Jojos Bizarre Adventure is. What qualifies entry level anime?
Is the person you're arguing with actually autistic?
who fucking cares?
>>141653904
they are required watching
>>141653904
Fuck off.
Entry-level anime in my opinion is a show that has easy to digest content (stories that aren't heavily engraved in Japanese culture for example would be easier to digest for an outsider).
Shows with less Japanese pun jokes or "EEEEEEEEHHHHH?!" would be more entry level.
Nah, if anything enjoying Nichijou requires advanced levels of weeaboism.
Oreimo of all things is apparantly entry level now.
They both are
Both are.
>>141653904
Entry level anime is always shit
Fuck off and get out with that nigger you are talking to.
>>141654190
so out of SoL anime, nichijou would be out (non-western humor style), as would lucky star (too many references to other media)
so from that genre, "entry-level" would probably be azumanga or yuru yuri or something
I'd say they're pretty close actually and wouldn't bother to differentiate between the two in that way. Nichijou is just for bitch ass faggots and Jojo is for gar bara men.
I'm pretty sure "Series I deem too popular" is the agreed upon definition by most snobs.
>>141654364
>(non-western humor style)
Isn't anything except [anime/manga I'm currently watching/reading] entry level?
>>141654532
Nichijou is pretty high up there on the 'You must be this Japanese to get this joke' scale.
Nothing beats Joshiraku, though.
You need to be japanese to be able to enjoy nichijou.
You need to be at least 12 yeas old to be able to enjoy jojo.
Entry level anime is anime that's easy to understand.
>>141653904
Neither are.
>>141654532
Just try and show Nichijou to normalfags. They won't even understand what's happening.
>>141654610
>>141654643
I think he referred too the part when you forget that word that describes something that is not western, but whatever.
>>141653904
Nichijou was my re-entry point for anime, and was the entry for a lot of my friends. I know it doesn't seem it because of the obscure humor but I think the lack of lewd fanservice and the good animation makes people respect anime more when they watch Nichijou.
>>141654643
>>141654610
Nichijou is one of the most beloved anime.
Joshiraku is more on the non-western scale just for the fact that translating some of the jokes is almost impossible.
>>141654643
There's more than enough physical comedy that would get through.
>>141653904
Nichijou has a truly japenese style of humor with their jokes.
Something more objective/easy to understand and western styled like Panty & Stocking are FAR more "entry level" (aka accessible to normies).
>>141654966
>normies
Kill yourself too.
>>141655085
Normalfag, Normie, same shit for me.
>>141655158
Then kill yourself with more reason.
>>141655158
>same shit for me.
lurk for 2 years before posting
Nichijou and Jojo are both entry level
Jojo is entry level because read the manga
>>141654364
Yuru Yuri is steeped in Japanese humor. Akari using her name as a pronoun is a massive character trait that simply doesn't translate.
>>141654966
>>141655158
Fuck off.
Entry level is such a shitty concept. Just let people watch what they find interesting.
>>141656811
It's irrelevant on the level of the individual show, but it becomes less shitty of a concept when someone's top ten are all popular shows with heavy Western influences.
Neither Nichijou or Jojo are entry level.
Entry level moe SoL would be Azumanga or K-ON.
Entry level battleshonen would be Naruto.
>>141656972
Actually, now that I think of it, no moe SoL is entry-level. Moe is pretty much by definition not entry level, but rather tends to appeal much more to people with high power levels.
Nichijou was one of the first anime I really enjoyed. As I started watching more anime, my opinion of Nichijou started to diminish a little but I still think it's pretty good. Other shows require more of a taste for anime and a more generous attitude towards the different things that tend to put other people off (like the fanservice, for instance, which is practically nonexistent in Nichijou).
I like Nichijou a lot, but I used to like it a lot more than I do now, and I think shows like Aria and Yuyushiki are far better in terms of pure slice-of-life, but also very far from being "entry level" just because of accessibility.
Remember not to confuse "entry level" with "low quality," not the same thing at all.
>>141653904
none of them really are
but does it really matter if any of them were
Maybe it's more appropriate to call someone's taste or knowledge entry level, rather than a particular show?
You can have watched an obscure mecha OVA from 1978, but if you don't know what a tsukkomi or Ultraman is, you're entry-level as fuck.
>>141656921
Nothing wrong with that. That just means that person likes western shit.
>>141653904
>arguing about anime irl
This will ensure you stay a virgin
/a/ is so out of touch with reality that they don't realize shows like Nichijou are practically unheard of to 99% of anime viewers.
Most people either watch Naruto, Bleach or Sword Art Online, and maybe they've watched Attack on Titan too.
if nonNEETs like it
>>141657143
>you're entry-level as fuck.
That's lewd anon.
>>141657242
that's a bit high--nichijou videos on youtube have millions of views and the show is universally known both here and on most other large anime communities, even if it doesn't hold a candle to the number of normies who have watched fairy tail and snk
>>141657420
Ever gone to an anime convention?
>>141657420
>normies
Are you that same faggot?
>>141657420
>normies
>knowing all that shit about outsiders
>>141657465
Why would you do that to yourself?
>>141657420
KyoAni is a darling of /a/, and /a/ is surprisingly influential in the serious western anime community.
>>141653904
>What qualifies entry level anime?
Its popular with the Toonami/Adult Swim/dub crowd. So no, Nichijou isn't entry level as most people who only watch dubbed anime have never seen it. But it is one step above entry level. Since its loved by the type of people who just got into watching subbed anime.
>>141654364
>lucky star
>not entry level
what is this nigga smoking
Nichijou is a tried and test baby's first anime.
Take my anecdote for what it is.
>>141657656
correct answer and also best girl.
>>141653904
Hey anon
Nearly any show can be entry level
I've got friends into anime through Non Non Biyori, I've got friends into anime through Jojo's, I've got friends into anime through Lain.
Generally speaking, if it's a good show, it's entry level for people who enjoy that sort of genre.
This includes Nichijou for comedy.
not exactly entry-level but it's still close to the tip of the iceberg. I'd say it's whatever level comes after entry level.
>>141657163
It probably means that they haven't gotten into anime much and are just occasionally watching stuff recommended by their friends that seems similar to their Western series. I mean, they're free to watch what they like, but I'd rather they kept out of anime communities if they're only going to watch the OPMs and Parasytes.
Any show is good, so long as it doesn't conform to western stereotypes of anime. Best to stay away from kill la kill and anything ecchi. You want to make them see the medium as a medium, not as thinly concealed porn.
>>141657836
Fuck off.
>>141657885
Here for you anon
>>141657731
>Nearly any show can be entry level
And as you said same shows can't be considered entry level for other people, that's why there's a general consensus of what genres are the most accessible to the masses, you can't throw futa at a thousand people and expect none of them to masturbate or otherwise.
>>141657831
>gotten into anime
What does that even mean.
Would western shit also something like Patlabor or The Wings of Honnêamise? I would imagine any westerner loving those.
>>141657836
>tentacle porn makes hentai objectively bad
>>141654643
they'd be like 'that dude just suplexed that goat lmao or 'lol yucow hates school just like me!', I don't see what's so japanese about
>>141653904
Entry level doesn't make something bad. In fact, it's usually the opposite.
That said, Nichijou is bad and unfunny.
>>141658000
>What does that even mean.
Into
9 informal (of a person) taking a lively and active interest in (something): he's into surfing.
>>141658070
See? Nichijou has some heavy buddhism shit that makes sense after you read some eastern philosophy.
>>141658139
So unless they watch your approved shows they have not gotten into.
>>141657836
the whole point of KLK is how rapidly you're completely desensitized to fanservice, given the absurd spectacle of it. it's a comedy first and foremost
it's not the deepest anime overall but it's a fun, clever, and well-executed take
>>141653904
entry level=shonen
>>141653904
Jojo and Nichijou aren't entry level shows ,though they are popular with entry level people.
>>141657836
It's been over a century since Queen Victoria's reign, but you losers insist on labeling anything remotely sexual as puerile and bad.
>>141658318
what exactly is the defined boundary between "entry level" and not?
Entry level doesn't mean bad.
It means easy to find, easy to get in to, and generally can be enjoyed by most people. Many are considered a ''must watch'', even if they're not very good. Some are classics, some are trainwrecks (Code Geass is entry level, for example).
>>141658260
I'd say that makes sense... until Ragyou's bad-touch-mommy shit. I sure as hell wasn't ready for any of that.
>>141658370
watch more anime and find out
>>141657242
This.
Most of the 6-7/10s who claim to like anime have only watched the REAL entry level stuff like Bebop, Trigun, FMA, Space Dandy, and Sword Art. Every now and then there will be a show that reaches meme status and they'll watch it before it's dubbed like Attack on Titan, Kill La Kill, and One Punch Man.
>>141658489
space dandy isn't anywhere near as well-known as the others you brought up
>>141657836
>>141658351
Continuing:
If Hamlet were performed by a nude cast, would that detract from the art? There's nothing in the folios that specifies clothing.
Maybe you being uncomfortable with sex has nothing to do with anime.
>>141658370
Entry level anime are easy to digest, and pretty much bereft of a Japanese feeling. I don't know how to explain *it* exactly, but if you took an entry level show and dubbed it, little would be lost from the shows original tone.
>>141657022
Fuck off.
Shit like K on is alot of people's first anime.
>>141658532
It's not straight up normie accessible but it's in every self-proclaimed "anime fan's" line up of shows they've watched if they aren't the sort who keeps up with anything in the season.
>>141658210
No, nigger, you can have terrible taste without being entry level. But someone who picks up a show every two months when they hear about it on Facebook is not into anime, this shouldn't be fucking controversial.
>>141658538
>If Hamlet were performed by a nude cast, would that detract from the art?
Would it add anything to it?
>>141658681
How many shows per season you need to watch to be 'into anime'?
>>141658944
I don't watch any airing shows but I find my own anime to enjoy and download new series I find by myself all the time.
>>141659044
>I don't watch any airing shows
>>141659154
I wait enough with manga as it is. There is enough anime to where by the time I catch up in my backlog I've added a finished airing season with maybe 10 shows.
>>141653904
They're both entry level as fuck. Nichjiou basically replaced Cromartie as the entry level comedy.
And Jojo is pretty fucking popular to a point that people that "don't normally watch anime" and only watch shit like attack on titan still watch Jojo.
>>141659196
Read manga and watch anime at the same time.
>>141654966
Should I feel bad that it was the first anime I watched?And dubbed too?
>>141658873
You need to add something to Hamlet to make it good?
>>141659407
I already watch my manga on youtube, how can I watch anime at the same time?
>>141659642
Either second monitor or just use two windows, idiot.
>>141659641
it was a rhetorical question m8
If you're actually ARGUING with someone over whether or not an anime is entry-level, you should either get new friends or kill yourself.
>>141653904
if by entry level you mean shit, then yes.
>>141654643
that´s because it´s a bad fucking show.
>>141658489
>meme status
>>141658618
>normie
Why don't you die already? Seriously.
>>141659642
I know you are just baiting at his point.
>>141659766
Fucking this
>reveling your powerlevel.
>>141653904
Technically, Nichijou isn't entry level due to its heavy use Japanese style comedy. Some may get through while other stuff may be lost with foreign audiences, but the animation quality, art style and character personalities is enough to classify it. I don't really care about Jojo, but seeing as /v/ creams themselves over it, I say it's entry level by default.
>>141657242
This. The only entry tier anime are anime that dumbasses on /v/ or other online communities find "acceptable", anime that you wouldn't get instantly called out for being weebs. Those are. SAO, DBZ, Naruto, Bleach and OP, even Deah Note. AoT may be one but it isn't as known
>>141659726
Well, naked Hamlet could be interesting. The watching the play scene would tske on a whole new level of lewd if Hamlet were directly burying his face in Ophelia's hairy country matters.
>>141659854
Oh sorry friend I forgot normie was a normie meme now, would you prefer normalfag?
By /a/ standards it is but in the whole of anime communities, it isn't. It's not dubbed, it's not on Toonami, there's many Japanese cultural and language gags and it bombed in Japan
>>141660317
Just kill yourself, twoneurons -kun.
http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity
This is more or less the definition of entry level. Notice that entry level doesn't neccessarly mean bad like /a/ likes to assume.
>>141660525
>>141660543
>Notice that entry level doesn't neccessarly mean bad like /a/ likes to assume.
Only people like twoneurons-kun think this, come on.
>>141660673
Bebop and Eva are 2 of the only anime that are liked by the majority of /a/ and they're relatively high on the list, are you saying they're bad?
>>141653904
>What qualifies entry level anime?
Anything that you've watched. And I don't mean you specifically. I mean everybody.
Once you watch it, it becomes entry level it seems.
>>141659642
>watching manga on Youtube
What sort of cancer is this? Everyone knows the best way is to listen to it on Soundcloud
>>141660543
Feels pretty good to not have watched a single show on that list.
>>141660966
Code Geass is actually good though.
>>141660808
I'm saying otherwise.
>>141660966
You are the definition of elitist
>>141661193
Actually you need to watch everything to say it's shit with arguments, so no he isn't.
>>141661193
He probably watches moe, they tend to think they have the most supreme taste.
>>141661014
the "most popular" show on there (death note) is universally well-received
there's garbage like SAO/fairy tail too, but popular=/=bad
>>141661341
And of course there's the falseflagger.
>>141661484
and here's the memer
>>141661880
I though you left, twoneurons-kun.
>>141653904
Unfunny shit with forced animation.
>>141653904
jojo gets too homoerotic later on to be entry level, normies can't into that
Shit like cowboy bebop, eva, samurai shamploo, ruruoni kenshin, etc are entry level because theyre entertaining and don't need much knowledge in the field to understand.
Yet that doesn't means they're necessarily bad.
>>141653922
They both are
>>141662760
>normies
Quit already.
>>141663871
Is this a meme?
>>141663894
Your existence is.
>>141663871
>triggered by the mention of normies
I understand the feel.
>>141663871
???
https://u.pomf.is/tvinhj.webm
>>141663871
Calm your tits Sperg Ferguson. No need to act like a nigger because you don't like the current word for people who don't browse 4chan. "Normie" isn't even that new.
>>141653904
JJBA is entry level in Japan or Europe sure but it's still only just now getting really popular in English speaking countries, so I wouldn't call it quite entry level yet though it'll get there. Like others have said Nichijou is too Japanese to be entry level either. That said neither of them are particularly on the deep end of anime and manga.
>>141656466
>Akari using her name as a pronoun is a massive character trait that simply doesn't translate.
Mr. T would like a word with you.
Pretty much every show that got a dub is entry level. A lot of shows that could be shown to anyone and they would like it (like Kaiji) could be considered entry level.
>>141668470
>If the medium uses a light spectrum visible to those with less than 1000 hours of anime, it is possible that some poor fool could watch it as his/her first anime, and therefore it is entry level
People like you are why some phrases are losing meaning.
Nichijou is actually pretty popular with entry level watchers.
/a/ is about the only place that shits on it.
>>141653904
It depends, they're both borderline. Jojo's is definitely more entry-level.
Entry level is shows you could watch having never seen anything Japanese and enjoy, or feel heavily "culture shocked". As an insult, it means things that newcomers will enjoy despite being shit. So, the perfect example of an "entry level" show would be Cowboy Bebop. It wouldn't be wrong to call, say, Elfen Lied (or higurashi a few years ago) "entry level shit".
Entry level means it has an english dub and was broadcasted on American TV for me.
>>141662760
>normie
Its normalfag.
>>141668640
That's dumb, there's tons of shit that was on TV and promptly forgotten, and plenty of stuff that wasn't on TV but is very widely known and accessible.
>>141669052
This. Dual!, Narutaru, and Blue Submarine No. 6 are not more entry-level than Psycho-Pass, OPM, and JoJo.
I think the most entry level shit you can find is KLK atm. I was chilling with some of my friends (2 guys and a 6/10 chick) and as a joke I suggested them to watch KLK for shit n giggles. The joke went too far and now they became weebshit autists that are probably shitposting here at this very moment. If you're reading this, fuck you Daniel stop sucking Tirgger's dick.
>>141671109
Kill yourself immediately.
I have a better question: who fucking cares
>>141672941
well fuck you.
>>141657763
>I'd say it's whatever level comes after entry level.
Good way of putting it
Nichijou killed any possibility of a show with unique designs/style by Kyoani forever.
>>141676153
I hope you're not giving KyoAni credit for Nichijou's art style.
I can't believe that so many of you guys care about this
>>141653904
no, stuff like cowboy bebop, akira, dragonball, even naruto and bleach; these are all "entry level" because they require very little understanding of japanese culture and topes
JJBA isn't entry level, because most people take one look at it, call it gay, and then never actually watch it
nichijou isn't entry level, because most of the jokes are very japanese
>>141676168
Nichijou style was fresh and good.
Anything made by Kyoani is usually considered normalfag shit in my book.
>>141676391
>no hidamari under Shaft
>no Shirobako under PA Works
Just saying strange choices
>>141653904
Hot Topic has Jojo t shirts.
That should answer your question.
>>141654232
Oreimo was actually the first thing I watched after the usual eternal shounenshit stuff
>>141676428
>no shirobako
Are you blind or something
>no hidamari
Madoka is basically the same.
>>141676339
>JJBA isn't entry level, because most people take one look at it, call it gay, and then never actually watch it
That would mean is just a bad show in general but not that is far from being an entry level anime. JJBA is one of the most entry lvl anime because of popularity and easy to get to non existent references on it, so you dont need to see more shows from the same studio to understand it. Also theres a lot of normalfag memes with jojos references.
>>141676402
I bet you consider shounen trash top tier.
>>141676490
I actually consider Mononoke and Haibane to be top tier along with most mahou shoujo.
this is entry level anime
>>141676624
>Ghost Hunt
What the fuck? How did that get there?
>>141676391
I can meme too.
