I'm quite happy that haifuri escaped the grimdark shit many expected to befall

>>141561246
How's the MC?

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>>141561246
>he doesn't know about episode 9

Yeah, but they instead went with the retarded electronics blocking, rage hamsters angle.

>unironically enjoying GuP's retarded special needs sibling
lmao smfh tbqfh fampai

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>>141518321

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>>141561377

>>141561298
Do you like Kirk?

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She's more and more becoming the best character.

>>141561246
>stupid gaijin from enemy ship doesn't like your food
>offer to try and make something more to her tastes
>earnestly put in all your effort despite not knowing anything about gaijin food
>she fucking clicks her tongue when you mispronounce their shitty smelly cabbage "" """food""""" and whines about all your other dishes

why is brown sugar such a bitch?

>>141562289
Because she's a pureblood Arian not some other shitty human being.

Mike a shit

>>141562434
I concur.

>>141562434
Only if you are a Shiro-shitter.

>>141562434
Trashposting is prohibited.

>>141562317
She doesn't seen to have any qualms about bathing with other people she barely met for a couple days. Is she merely pretending to be German? She seems quite insistent on reminding the crew that she's German all the time but her pronunciation is terrible and she has that ridiculously antiquated German name.

>>141562644
>She doesn't seen to have any qualms about bathing with other people she barely met for a couple days.
It surely cannot be worse than the things Doc did to her.

>>141561246
So she isn't from Germany?

>>141562757
Explain

>>141562644
She didn't have problems using chopsticks either, even though she didn't like the food.

>>141563240
Using chopsticks isn't rocket science

>>141562644
>>141563240
Though it's possible that in this setting superior nippon culture has been accepted around the world and things like public baths are normal everywhere.

>>141563276
It kind of is if you never did it before. Using fork and knife is even easier and chinks that never used them before have some problems.

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>>141563233

>>141562644
>pronunciation is terrible
What? It wasn't bad for a Japanese VA

>>141563395
>SAWYERKRAUTO

>>141561318
>sonobeposting
You don't see that everyday

>>141563358
There are Chinese restaurants where you could practice it around.

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sexiest

>>141563438
That was pretty good besides the o at the end.

>>141563358
You literally just twist two sticks around to pick up shit. It's only difficult to pick up small and slippery shit.

>>141563358
Public bathing sounds reasonable on board of a ship

>>141562104
Yes, let her shoot things.

>>141562644
The subject of public bathing between only women is a point to question one's nationality?

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>>141561298
>how's the MC

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>106 cm
>190 cm

>>141564258
Reminder that this is CANON and true history

>>141564258
Wait, what?

>>141564258
>those obvious editing artifacts
it was funny the first time, now fuck off.

>>141564389
Where's the original?

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>>141564258
>106 cm

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>>141564715
Nice, also, for those who like brown cutie.

>>141561246
>Kaga and Akagi are docked
If they don't have planes, then why do they have aircraft carriers?

>>141565065
They were originally planned as BB.

>>141565065
Presumably it's Kaga and Akagi as they were originally laid down: A Tosa-class battleship and Amagi-class battlecruiser.

>>141565110
Akagi was not planned as a BB.

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>>141561246

>>141565184
Beautiful

>>141565170
She also wasn't planned as CV

>>141564232
Pretty accurate.

>>141565184
I still want to eat Mina's shit.

Trash should be the captain

>>141565824
Sauerkraut farts can be pretty evil.

>>141565895
So she has to go down with the ship? Good plan.

>>141565895
She is complete shit.

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>>141565170
Amagi Class Battlecruiser

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>>141565923
Not when they come from this semen demon.

>>141565824
>>>/d/

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>>141565895
No.

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Which twin would you cum inside?

Alright, I don't understand why people talk so much shit about Kuro. Kuro has a lot of admiration for Shiro, and probably feels pity for her because she's the 'underdog' in her family. Then comes Mike, who does practically nothing except be cheerful and have ridiculous amounts of good luck, and has to do nothing to become the captain, she isn't even competent enough to be one since she decides to leave her crew behind whenever someone's in need because she has a massive hero-complex. Kuro is absolutely justified in feeling frustration and disappointment towards Mike, but no, Mike is the Mary Sue, protected by thousands of foils of plot armor, she's almost as bad as the average shounen protagonist.

>>141566305
Rom.

>>141566172
She would be a horrible captain.
>>141566305
Stop that!

>>141566333
Whatever you say Trash / Shiro.

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I have a horrible feeling that Maron is the only competent member of the crew, and as such is going to die because Acting Captain Shiro did something stupid, all so Kuro can have "character development" and become the new Chief Engineer.

>>141566399
Which twin, anon?

>>141561945
>Be the ship's medical officer
>Test the experimental drug on yourself
If anything goes wrong, the Harekaze won't have a doctor, yet people are too busy shitting on Mike for rescue operations.

>>141567019
STOOOOOOOOOOPPPP

>>141567079
You know you have a preference. You'd cum in them both, but which do you want to impregnate more?

>>141567060
No one else was willing to do it.

>>141567191
Pink

>>141566947
Nah, she'll just almost die when Kuro fucks something up so Mike can put herself into danger again to save her.

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>>141566399
Shed be a fine captain. Look at how commanding her presence is.

>>141561246
biggest disappointment this season. I really want to like it but it gets worse every episode, what a letdown and waste of qt characters

>>141567733
I bet Mike would.

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>>141561518
>not welcoming our new hamster overlords
Plebest of plebs

>>141566947
Kuro is liteal shit, they should keelhaul her.

>>141562104
>filename not "machine-washing the torpedo"
One job, Anon. ONE JOB.

>>141562289
she is right, all of their dishes were abominations and a disgrace to the superiour german cuisine

>>141562317
>from south germany
>pureblood aryan

>>141568707
She's a pureblood Aryan in my heart.

>>141568707
She's the embodiment of Nordic type though.

>>141568199
Kuro has done literally nothing wrong.

Can anyone upload the wav version of the OP single to mega or mediafire, please?

I can't download from baidu and nyaa doesn't have that version. There's one in flac but it seems fake.

remove mike you are worst captain

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>>141570065
You only make me post her again.
Wait, was that your plan all along?

>>141567982
>brace yourself, I'm going in dry

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What did this poor girl see?

>>141570382
Help, she's about to get cummed upon!

>>141563600
Blahaj find their way to the japanese.
https://twitter.com/lift13579/status/731036328733761536
https://twitter.com/lift13579/status/731061048875196417

>>141563449
Where?
>>141563586
It's certainly not intuitive the way forks are.

>>141571389
Like, in any bigger city?

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>>141564440

>>141571562
Way better

>>141571562
Why are they so small. Japanese nowadays are not much smaller than others. At least that's not what I'm seeing on the streets.

>>141571790
Fiction isn't real

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>>141571562

>>141571790
They're all first year of high school. It's reasonable to think that most can still gain another couples of centimeters in a few years.

>>141571790
Average female height in Japan is less than 160 cm, so it's not that far from reality. Also, small girls are cute.

>could have been this season's Madoka
>instead became chunni shounen-tier shit

Why live?

>>141572464
Fuck off back to your next urobutcher show, faggot

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>>141572464
>muh muh suffering

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>>141572464
I don't expect anything amazing out of this, but I'm still enjoying the ride.

>>141572464
I don't want hardcore suffering, just some actual serious drama.

>>141561246
Is that Sena?

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>>141572802
I hope we get it soon. Episode 5 was on the right track.

last episode was good
8/10

>>141569302
§889. Art. 89. Disrespect toward superior commissioned officer
Any person subject to this chapter who behaves with disrespect toward his superior commissioned officer shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

>>141573086
>prior episode ends with a cliffhanger
>gets resolved instantly
>nothing happens the whole episode while shit is going down everywhere else
>good

The writing is shit.

>>141573328
Kuro was just giving criticism.

>>141572709
Why is she so smug?

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>>141561246

Posting best girl

>>141561246
I dunno why, but I enjoyed this more than Panzer.
Maybe I love Ships?

>>141573778
Maybe your spirit animal is a navy spoon.

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>>141566305

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>>141573778
Haifuri has the miracle that is Mashiro.

>>141573946
nobody but trash likes her.

>>141574277
She was right about everything and you know it.

>>141573535
If anybody cared about Kuro's criticism they'd promote her to Admiral.

>>141573670
She looks comfy.

>>141574345
She is right about her having no luck. That's about it.

>>141563600
Literally me desu

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>>141574812
She's right about how the captain shouldn't leave the ship so easily.

>>141573328
If we're going down that route, then Mike should be court-martialed for her actions as well.

>>141575020
Just jealous Mike wants to protect all the girls.

>>141575125
Mashiro doesn't give a shit about Moka, and she is right to do that.

>>141575254
She is a comrade at sea and is very wrong not to care about her.

>No male MC
Dropped.

>>141575329
She is right to care more about her own crew than another ship's.

>>141575496
Then why not follow Mike's orders to get the fuck around why she handles shit?

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Did anyone else notice THE FUCKING BANDAID

SHE'S BEEN BITTEN

>>141575575
Because Shiro cares about the entire crew, including Mike.

>>141575596
That's what the antibodies are for

>>141574345
She didn't want the admiral on board and he saved their fucking lives.

>>141575020
>You are tearing me apart, Mike!

>>141575596
No shit, Sherlock

>>141575596
Maybe she just cut herself.

>>141563600
Time to head for Ikea

Mike a shit

>>141578605
All a shit except glorious master race-chan and science-chan.

>>141578652
Trash is best.

>>141578716
At being a bitch. Nothing else.

>>141578605
Don't be rude to Michael-san

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>>141578605
This.

>first episode - got them labeled as mutineers
>second episode - stole the going in circles idea from Shima
>third episode - Mi did most of the commanding and Mike got them in the submarine fight in the first place
>fourth episode - left her post to go shopping
>fifth episode - abandoned her post to save Moka

And then there's her constant spacing out.

Kuro is admirable. She fights for her waifu just like Mike.

>>141578754
Tell that to Maron and she will boil you alive.

>>141561246
>I'm quite happy that haifuri escaped the grimdark shit many expected to befall the girls.


That's funny, that's exactly why I stopped watching it. It pulled the "hur the gurls are invincible because they're cute" rationale that GuP did, except without any believable reasons.

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>>141575020
guess who is cleaning out the scorpion pit tonight little miss bitchcotay.

>>141563586
>first episode - got them labeled as mutineers

Yeah, if only they were merely all dead.

>>141578941
Mind controlled girls sucking at aiming is a believable reason.

>>141578992
>Janeway
I do think more and more of Janeway when I see Mike. I actually imagined Mike injecting antivenom into her bloodstream and using it to kill the rat queen in order to use the transwarp conduit to get her family home safely.

>>141578605
She'll learn her place.

>>141579002
The instructor couldn't aim at all.

>>141579224
The shots were getting closer and closer and they couldn't get away without attacking.

>>141579002
If they actually bothered to radio Yokosuka when they came under fire and report on the situation they wouldn't have been labelled mutineers.

>>141579501
If they can even contact Yokosuka, which they couldn't due to ECCM rats.

>>141579647
They didn't have any of the rats aboard the ship at that point though. In the time it took them to decide to return fire at the instructor's ship they could have sent off a flash message to Yokosuka explaining the situation and giving their intention to fire a training torpedo so they could escape.

>>141572464
Don't you have a fortress thread to be contained in.

They keep going out of their way to mention every battle has no deaths, so when they suddenly kill off one character it's supposed to come as a bigger shock.

>>141579501
They all still thought it was part of the training exercise at that point.

I want the last episode to end with the Harekaze limping back to Yokosuka with half her boilers out, her bow blown off, all her weapons shot to shit, and listing heavily to one side while down by the bows with no one dead or seriously injured.

>>141580085
Normally training exercises don't involve getting shot at with live ammunition, and when they do you are at least informed of it well in advance.

>>141561246
Would you show her 8 inch gun?

Brown sugar a best.

>>141580982
That doesn't change the fact that they still all thought it was a training exercise at that point.

>>141581011
The XO of the Admiral Graf Spee is satisfied by nothing less than 11 inches.

>>141580679
>last episode
>Harekaze heavily outnumbered
>still manages to fight on
>artillery-chan gets mortally wounded
>shiro finds her
>her last wish is that Shiro help her load her last shell, since the autoloader was broken
>after being pierced faster than they can fix, Mike finally orders them to abandon ship
>no one finds Mike after that
>they see the rats saluting them as they pass by

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>>141563545
Not as sexy as this tbf

>>141581458
So? After realizing that the instructor is firing live ammo at them and refusing to respond all attempts to communicate the most reasonable thing to do would be to report the situation to Yokosuka. This can be done within the time it took to decide to return fire.

>>141581614
Why is Mike this manly?

>>141581614
Only because they added more detail to this shot.

>>141581647
But it wouldn't be done unless they realized that something more unusual was going on, which nobody did until the instructor's report for mutiny came in. Hell, between the school instructor and the reject crew, it's not likely they'd be believed anyway.

>>141580084
Just like Kancolle.

>>141573450
>cliffhanger
you seem to have a weird idea of what that word means

>>141581614
Can they really get away with showing her vagina like this...? Not that I'm complaining but....

>>141581770
Being shot at with live ammunition from a friendly ship, who also refuses all attempts at communication, is an unusual situation. Or are we to assume that instructors open up at their students with live ammunition all the time? Furthermore, the fact that the Harekaze reported the situation first as well as reported their intentions to return fire with a torpedo so they could break contact would give them the necessary legitimacy to not be immediately labelled mutineers by the school and Safety Bureau.

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Sasuga captain Mike.

>>141582177
>Being shot at with live ammunition from a friendly ship, who also refuses all attempts at communication, is an unusual situation. Or are we to assume that instructors open up at their students with live ammunition all the time?
We're to assume that they all believed it was nothing more than training or because they were late, because that was what they all said. Being accused of mutiny was a surprise to all of them, as was the ship sinking from their attack at all.

>Furthermore, the fact that the Harekaze reported the situation first as well as reported their intentions to return fire with a torpedo so they could break contact would give them the necessary legitimacy to not be immediately labelled mutineers by the school and Safety Bureau.
This would make it far too easy for true mutineers to have a free getaway just by phoning in first and making up an excuse to attack. If their instructor radios in a minute later and says she was attacked unprovoked, nobody is going to believe a word they said.

>oh god you're soaking wet
>quick get into the bath
for what purpose

how about just dry off

>>141568131
>Mike takes the experimental antibody for the sake of her crew
>It's another Kuro and Shiro bitch at Captain Mike episode

>>141582462
To get warmed up. Also naked bonding time with crewmates.

>>141582532
sure, but I mean the anime cliche in general. People come in out of the rain, and "so you don't get a cold" they are told to get the fuck in that bathtub asap.

>>141582576
This is an anime cliche?
Being soaked in wet clothing tends to make the body feel rather bad. Tons of people take a shower if they come in soaked. Do you not take showers after swimming?

>>141582384
Well, if we're to go by your first point, then I'm still correct in claiming that Mike fucked up by not reporting the situation to Yokosuka. Thinking getting shot at with live fire is just a part of normal training is not a reasonable assumption, nor one that any capable Captain would make. Especially if the ship firing at them refuses to acknowledge their communication attempts.

As for the second point, I highly doubt actual mutineers would call back to their base to come up with up with an excuse for their actions. After all, that would still draw attention to themselves that they don't want, especially because they would be expected to be able to follow up on their report and return to port immediately. Which is what the Harekaze should/would have done upon sending their report to Yokosuka. Actual mutineers would have likely engaged in radio silence the entire time, or engaged in it after sending their bogus report (assuming they even bother sending one).

>>141582796
I shower after swimming in the pool because of chlorine

If I get soaked from rain walking home I just throw the clothes in the drying and towel off a bit.

>>141582796
Only to wash off the chlorine or salt water.

>>141582183
Smooth Rin.

>>141582576
Allow me to explain how clothes work. The best thermal insulating material is air. The cloth itself, whether it's cotton, polyester or any other fiber, is only good at trapping the warm air that comes off your body due to natural convection and recirculating it. When your clothes are wet, it will stick to your skin, meaning air is no longer trapped. Furthermore, the water will now act as the medium through which heat if conducted from your body to atmosphere. So when you are wearing wet clothes, the rate at which you are losing body heat is orders of magnitude higher.

>>141582576
>>141582532
>>141582462
And this is soaking wet in seawater. You don't simply go back without rinsing your body after being soaked in seawater.

>>141582183
Odango Rin is cute

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>>141582946
Isn't that picture missing someone?

>>141582839
>Thinking getting shot at with live fire is just a part of normal training is not a reasonable assumption, nor one that any capable Captain would make.
The entire crew including sensible Shiro also thought the same. You are going against the show's internal logic.

>As for the second point, I highly doubt actual mutineers would call back to their base to come up with up with an excuse for their actions.
Why on earth wouldn't they? If all it takes to not be considered mutineers is to be the first one to call in, regardless of the fact that you're bottom-of-the-barrel first year students and the one contradicting you is a respected instructor, it's the only reasonable thing to do.

>After all, that would still draw attention to themselves that they don't want,
They're getting attention anyway unless their alpha strike is so ridiculously overpowering it knocks all of the target's communications out at once.

>especially because they would be expected to be able to follow up on their report and return to port immediately.
It still buys them time to escape and generates confusion.

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>>141564258
>106cm

>>141583090
No

>>141583190
Same actress as Yue from Negima.

>>141583090
Thanks. I am wondering why this image not showing in google.

>>141583481
SUPERIOR ARYAN GENES

>>141583481
>have tense scene about being outgunned
>just so you can make a joke about breast envy

>>141583656
>>141583481
>>141583529
They see your 80cm/L40.6

>>141561246
i want to impregnate her so hard

i don't care for grimdark shit, but political intrigue would've been interesting in the background. my main disappointment is that by not having the musashi operate with harekaze, the naval scenarios become excessively asspull and boring. i'll wait until the season ends to see if this is worthwhile.

>>141583136
>The entire crew including sensible Shiro also thought the same. You are going against the show's internal logic.
The Captain is the one responsible for making the decisions for the most part, thus the responsibility (or blame) lies with Mike and not handling the situation in such a way that they're labelled as mutineers.

>Why on earth wouldn't they? If all it takes to not be considered mutineers is to be the first one to call in, regardless of the fact that you're bottom-of-the-barrel first year students and the one contradicting you is a respected instructor, it's the only reasonable thing to do.
Because they probably wouldn't think of that. Like I said, actual mutineers would likely be adverse to drawing attention to themselves. How many murderers call the police afterwards and tell them they injured/killed someone in self-defence? It's the same principle applied here.

>It still buys them time to escape and generates confusion.
It does, except once they enter radio silence they end up with ships actively searching for them anyway. Maybe they buy a little bit of time, but in the end they end up hunted anyway.


But let me get something straight here anon. Are you trying to tell me that the Harekaze shouldn't have sent a sent a flash message to Yokosuka when they took contact? Because your argument doesn't make any sense to me. If the Harekaze sent a report to Yokosuka about the situation before the instructor does, it causes Yokosuka and the Safety Bureau to delay officially labeling the Harekaze as mutineers until they can straighten out the story. This would involve Yokosuka directing nearby Bureau or Yokosuka ships to intercept the Harekaze while maintaining radio contact with the Harekaze (who wouldn't be in radio silence since they haven't been accused of being mutineers at this point and are expecting to receive radio messages from Yokosuka).

>>141583481
Why not just use fast torpedo boats? This is almost literally why they were invented, to engage unsupported battleships.

>>141584115
Because fast torpedo boats aren't really meant to deal with deep blue-ocean environment. You need destroyers for that.

>>141584278
That largely depends on the sea conditions when you intend to use them. You could launch them from a larger vessel or vessels when you get into sufficient range of the Musashi.

>>141584060
>The Captain is the one responsible for making the decisions for the most part, thus the responsibility (or blame) lies with Mike and not handling the situation in such a way that they're labelled as mutineers.
That's not the point. According to the show's internal logic, Mike's beliefs were reasonable, because the entire rest of the cast including the one characterized as the sensible one also shared them. You are replacing the show's logic with your own in order to draw out a conclusion it is not intending.

>Because they probably wouldn't think of that
According to who? I'm a random person talking about anime on the internet, and I thought of it in about five seconds. If you're going to commit a crime, and you can easily convince the authorities that it isn't taking place, of course you're going to do it.

>Are you trying to tell me that the Harekaze shouldn't have sent a sent a flash message to Yokosuka when they took contact?
Not if they thought it was part of their training or a "scare 'em shitless for being late" thing, which again, they did until the broadcast came in. Remember, the instructor's ship shouldn't have sunk just from a dummy torpedo, and that was part of the mutiny story.

>>141584060
Oh and
>How many murderers call the police afterwards and tell them they injured/killed someone in self-defence?

How on earth is this analogous? Leaving aside the fact that people do create alibis for themselves, murder is a crime where the report takes place well after the actual event, so your best bet may well be simply to avoid being a suspect in the first place. That's not a possibility for someone firing on a ship with communication equipment unless they can take it out in a single blow.

>>141584411
Are you sure if that's a good idea though? tendering for this is quite the hassle.

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>>141578992
>Mike is Janeway

holy fuck, it makes perfect sense

Navel genocide when

>>141584422
>That's not the point. According to the show's internal logic, Mike's beliefs were reasonable, because the entire rest of the cast including the one characterized as the sensible one also shared them.
Did they? As far as I can tell the only people who were capable of agreeing with Mike during the situation were the people who actually knew what was going on. In other words, pretty much only the bridge personnel can be said to agree with Mike's decisions, because the rest of the crew either did not what was going on or did not know what actions had already been taken. We even see an example of this in this last episode, where it is explicitly stated that the engineering crew don't know what's going on most of the time because they're too busy with their job.

>According to who? I'm a random person talking about anime on the internet, and I thought of it in about five seconds.
Would you have thought of that if I didn't even bring up this situation in the first place? I doubt it. If I never brought up the fact that mutineers wouldn't report back with a bogus contact report, I find it hard to believe you would have thought about it in the first place.

>Not if they thought it was part of their training or a "scare 'em shitless for being late" thing
That's not a thing, not with live ammo at least. No one does that, the not even the real army or navy does that. If I were attending a training exercise and someone started shooting at me with live ammunition, I wouldn't assume it was part of the training.

>>141584732
An alibi would be more like "we didn't do it because we weren't even there" or "we didn't do it because we couldn't for X reason". This is analogous because it's more like "we did do it, but were justified in doing so because they attacked us first"

>>141585069
Better than doing nothing at all. Arguably, it may even be better than getting into a prolonged BB fight with the Musashi, because you have less to lose in doing so.

>>141564232
moka is the captain on another ship

she was abandoning her kids to save some other daddy

I got extremely angry when they said that male students existed, at least they were stuck below the sea.
I almost dropped it when a bunch of males appeared talking shit.
If no more penis-holders appear I may forgive it.

>>141585310
Moka has a penis and impregnated Mike which is why she keeps spacing out and desperately wants to get back to her baby daddy.

>>141585097
>>141584422
Didn't they say in the first episode that their radio communications were broken because of the explosions.
I could have sworn they said that, but maybe i'm going crazy
I swear, you people are dumb as shit.

>>141585097
>As far as I can tell the only people who were capable of agreeing with Mike during the situation were the people who actually knew what was going on.
Nitpicking. Great.

What is your point? There was no dissension to the idea until the actual report of the mutiny happened; if the show expects us to think of Mike's belief as obviously foolish, it doesn't make any effort to convey it, even from the most down-to-earth character on the ship.

>If I never brought up the fact that mutineers wouldn't report back with a bogus contact report
But you didn't. You said that the Harekaze should have reported back, and I was the one who immediately brought up actual mutineers, because it's incredibly obvious that if all it takes is getting your story in first, anyone with any brains is going to do it. Yes, if I were planning a mutiny in a world where that's all it takes for a port to take my word over that of the one in charge of my fleet, I rather think it might occur to me at some point.

> This is analogous because it's more like "we did do it, but were justified in doing so because they attacked us first"
But again, this is not analogous because murdering someone provides an alternative and simpler means to evade justice, whereas attacking a ship does not. If you were killing someone and you knew 100% there was no way for the alarm not to be instantly raised and for you to be implicated, would you not try to raise some doubt about who shot first?

>>141585481
I'm pretty sure they tried to hail the instructor's ship and were ignored, which is why they switched to using flags.

MIKE A TRASH

>>141585795
I remember them saying something about not being able to send messages because their radio was busted.
You guys are arguing about weather or not Mike should've sent a message back to HQ to avoid being labeled as mutineers, but they couldn't because their radio was broken.
Am I wrong?

>>141568199
This.

>>141566947
I would believe it if there were at least background characters who actually dies.
But this moeshit will have happy tone all along.

>>141585916
Yes, because the comms problems were in episode three.

Kuro is great and Shiro should give her lots of hugs and kisses.

>>141585988
Even strike witches killed off the random male jobbers, but somehow there were no dead after the battle with Musashi.
>>141586087
Trash-chan pls.

>>141586010
Oh, I see.
Then, yeah that's Mike's fault for not sending a message back to HQ,
But I guess you could argue that they are 15 year old girls who don't know what the fuck to do under pressure. Not to mention how the Harekaze is hand picked to be full of sailor girls with the worst grades. so of course they're going to be bad

>>141583529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyxOXjZHl9U
DER MENSCH

>>141585544
>What is your point? There was no dissension to the idea until the actual report of the mutiny happened
Just because multiple characters made the mistake doesn't mean they're right. It just means that they were all wrong, except the only one you can really place the blame for getting it wrong is the one in charge, Mike, because she's the one who's job it is to make these decisions.

>because it's incredibly obvious that if all it takes is getting your story in first, anyone with any brains is going to do it.
How does this have any bearing on whether or not the Harekaze should have sent Yokosuka a contact report? Just because actual mutineers may do the same thing and the instructor's report says they're mutineers, doesn't mean that they're report is in any way thrown out. Furthermore, ideally the Harekaze would have initially sent a flash message to HQ when they started taking live fire from the instructor's ship and then proceeded to provide updates and ask for permission before they launch the torpedo, even if they were denied permission they could still inform HQ that they're going to launch anyway. This also allows HQ to try to get in contact with the instructor's ship, which likely would have been ignored them as well.

What you seem to be failing to understand is that when HQ is faced with two conflicting reports, even if one is from a more reputable source, they don't automatically disregard one and accept the other. If Mike had sent a contact report, the Harekaze would not have automatically been labelled as a mutineer ship. By not sending any report, the Bureau was forced to act off the only information they had and label the Harekaze as a mutineer vessel.

>>141568080
Same. I wanted to like it, the girls are cute, have good character and voice acting. But the story just gets shittier and shittier.

>>141586554

look like you have confused, when instructur ship attack harekaze, they think that just training or pushinment for being late

and then at evening, a news for all vessel that harekaze already mutinied... that why they cut the comm...

just think about it, when you watch tv and suddenly your face appear on news become most wanted criminal... at this moment rush decision can be fatal.. hiding for a while and waiting for new information or favorable situation is the best

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>>141587121
>watching anime for the story

>>141586554
>Just because multiple characters made the mistake doesn't mean they're right.
But it does mean that the show probably thinks it's a reasonable interpretation, especially when the most sensible cast member also makes it, and thus that interpreting what happens as if it wasn't is a failure to take the show's own logic into account, and is taking away something from the scene that it never meant to convey.

>except the only one you can really place the blame...
A captain's job is not to never be wrong. It's to make the best choice given the information she has, which everything in the episode is indicated that she did - and even if she didn't, she did far more than any first-year on her first cruise could have been expected to.

>How does this have any bearing on...
Are we just going to go round in circles now? Given that any sane mutineer is going to initially make the "we have a good reason to blow up our commander, honest" report, you cannot afford to treat someone who makes that report with any more leeway than a real mutineer, and so the report would have made no difference.

And again, their belief was that nothing was unusual beyond an aggressive instructor, and so they had no reason to contact HQ. Hell, most of the threads for the next week or two still thought we'd get a "just training!" coupout. It was only obviously a mutiny because the Sarushima sank, which next episode we learn from Rin that the dummy ammunition shouldn't have been able to do, and so she couldn't be expected to act on that basis, either.

>This also allows HQ to try to get in contact with the instructor's ship, which likely would have been ignored them as well.
Why would they be ignored? She was clearly capable enough of contacting them herself to report the mutiny.

>>141587121
Nothing wrong with mind control rats.

Doujins of Minami in full leather outfit lesdomming all the other girls on Harekaze when?

My favorites:
Machi
Mei
Shima
Kouko
Maron
Minami

>>141587253
Anon, you're arguments no longer make any sense. It's becoming increasingly obvious that you're just trying to make excuses at this point and intentionally ignore the key points.

Just because no one thought to send a contact report to HQ does not mean that this is in any way the right decision. trying to claim that it was somehow the right decision to make because it follows the show's "internal logic" is a cop-out argument because we don't know the show's "internal logic" for sure in this case, and given the show is clearly based off real life to certain extent (historical WII ships, set on Earth, semi-accurate portrayal of naval concepts such as signal flags and the passage of orders aboard the ship) we have can absolutely apply "external" logic from real life, because that's all we have to go off of in this case.

You're right in that the Captain's job is not to never be wrong, but that doesn't in any way relieve the Captain of responsibility when they make the wrong decision or if the crew as a whole makes a wrong decision. The Captain gets shit on by their superiors when their crew fucks up, and thus they in turn shit on their ship officers, etc. This is how the chain of command works.

Once again you fail to understand how any of this actually works. When HQ receives two different reports about a situation that saw two friendly ships fire upon each other, they will not immediately choose to believe one side over the other. What you're suggesting is jumping to conclusions. Obviously the members of the Harekaze are to be taken into custody, as they are still suspected of mutiny, but no area-wide message telling all ships they are free to fire on the Harekaze because they are mutineers would be sent out. Furthermore, something has got to be wrong with your head if you think that being forced to fire on your instructor in order to flee the area after they attacked you with live ammunition, is somehow not worthy of reporting to HQ.

>>141588200

you think this is as an army, and suddenly another ship fired at you..

but here, they late and "teacher" ship attack them with slow fire rate and slow turning ship...

they're not even thought they do wrong until HQ inform all ship that harukaze already sink teacher ship and mutinied

>>141587253
>>141588200
Adding to this. Even if the Harekaze wasn't accused of mutiny from this incident, it would still be irresponsible of them to not report the incident for clerical purposes or to get their side of the story out to HQ first. For fucks sake, if you got into a blue-on-blue incident in the military and didn't report it, do you imagine how much shit you'd get into?

You're also forgetting the other side of this. As an organization, the possibility that an instructor of their fired live ammo at a student ship filled with 15 year old girls is not something any school or organization would take lightly. Given the potential for bad publicity and potential for lawsuits this incident presents, instantly makes this into a major concern. How do you think the media would react if the students were right? Fuck, even if the students were at fault the media would still make this into a publicity nightmare for the school. This is to say nothing of if a student actually got injured as a result of the instructor firing at them.

As it is, teachers in real life schools basically have no weight to their side of the story if a student accused them of abuse or violence. It's actually easier for the school to just fire the teacher than defend them or take their side.

>>141588200
> because that's all we have to go off of in this case.
No, we have the reactions of the rest of the cast, including one who is specifically the "by the book" perfect grades character, to go by. There was absolutely no indication that they were all meant to come off as unreasonable or out-of-touch. You really are just going in circles now.

>You're right in that the Captain's job is not to never be wrong, but that doesn't in any way relieve the Captain of responsibility when they make the wrong decision or if the crew as a whole makes a wrong decision
But again, the whole point is that she didn't make a wrong decision. There is a distinction between holding a false belief (that you may well be justified in holding, if the true state of affairs is highly improbable) and making the wrong decision. Mike made the right decision given her justifiable wrong belief about the Sarushima's intentions.

>Obviously the members of the Harekaze are to be taken into custody, as they are still suspected of mutiny, but no area-wide message telling all ships they are free to fire on the Harekaze because they are mutineers would be sent out.
Again: why? If that's the standard policy for mutineers, you cannot afford to change it because of a message that all real mutineers would send has been sent; that message by definition provides no new information. If you do, all you're doing is changing your (admittedly stupid, but that's another discussion) policy from "attack" to "capture", because the only ones who will be attacked are stupid mutineers and non-mutineers.

>Furthermore, something has got to be wrong with your head if you think that being forced to fire on your instructor in order to flee the area after they attacked you with live ammunition, is somehow not worthy of reporting to HQ.
Great, but that's an issue to take up with writers, not with the characters.

>>141568707
>not from Persia
>Aryan

so.. which one wrong and right? harekaze or furoshou?

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>>141562644
>has that ridiculously antiquated German name
Progressive pleb detected. You disgust me.

>>141588643
Mike.

>>141588678

and if mike wrong how its posibble her ship and entire crew still able to sail freely at high sea without labeled as mutiny?

>>141588643
Furushou got hamstered.

>>141588718
Why did she fall unconscious? Shima was perfectly fine after getting unhamstered.

>>141588769

her ship sank and she floating at sea until rescure arrive

>>141588769
I don't know, fucking hamsters how do they work?

>>141588769
She tripped and fell on her head.

>>141588550
>Even if the Harekaze wasn't accused of mutiny from this incident, it would still be irresponsible of them to not report the incident for clerical purposes or to get their side of the story out to HQ first.
How many times does it need to be said that they weren't aware it wasn't either training or a hardass instructor making an impression about tardiness until it was already over?

>For fucks sake, if you got into a blue-on-blue incident in the military and didn't report it, do you imagine how much shit you'd get into?
In most military fiction, for an instructor doing that standard spartan "in at the deep end" shit for the sake of the main character's Potential™? Probably just a friendly chewing out from the headmistress.

>You're also forgetting the other side of this. As an organization...
Still going in circles. In the story's world, nobody including the audience was taking the conflict seriously until it really was reported as a mutiny; do you really think "aren't they worried about being sued?" is something a show with this kind of tone - especially the tone of most of the first episode - is trying to take into consideration? If anything, Mike was the only one to recognize it as a real mortal threat they had to deal with.

>>141588808
I wonder why her crews just left her floating there when they were wide awake.

>>141561246
>Probably the most enjoyable show of the season.
That's 12-sai, but it's still pretty good.

>>141588568
Once again, the actions of a small number of the cast doesn't tell us shit. Given that we know that in real life the regulations state that you're supposed to report all instances where you get shot at, and given that this show is based off real and historical naval practices/tactics/procedures I'd say this is more convincing than "just because the cast thought it was a good idea."

Arguably, Mike did make the wrong decision. The information was very clear, you are taking fire from live ammunition from the instructor ship to the point that your own ship is taking damage. Combine this with the fact that the instructor is refusing to acknowledge your communication attempts, and it is obvious something is very wrong.

How many times to I need to say it anon? HQ does not know for certain if the Harekaze has mutinied. All they've received are two conflicting reports from both parties, one of which (the Harekaze) has also been making follow-up reports and requesting advice on how to proceed. This fact makes it pretty obvious that the Harekaze does not have hostile intentions, as there is no way a mutineer vessel would be doing this.

Who exactly do you think is responsible for the characters, anon? Any complaint of the characters is a complaint of the writers. The only fucking reason I'm complaining about the characters is because they were poorly written.

>>141589153
The actions of the cast tell us about the norms of the setting. They're the worst of the bunch, but they're still people who have studied for this task and aspired to be blue mermaids. They had expectations that they'd built up in preparing for what they were doing and being shot at by some an instructor for tardiness was clearly within them.

Why is Shiro so insufferable? She exist to just talk shit and doing her worst Touma impression

>>141588913
>How many times does it need to be said that they weren't aware it wasn't either training or a hardass instructor making an impression about tardiness until it was already over?
Alright, look at it this way. Even if getting shot at with live ammunition was somehow part of the training, then they should still send up a contact report because that's still the proper procedure and they should be training to do that as well.

>In most military fiction, for an instructor doing that standard spartan "in at the deep end" shit for the sake of the main character's Potential™? Probably just a friendly chewing out from the headmistress.
With live ammunition? That results in the injury of one or more students? I think not.

>>141589386
>be at top of the class
>forced onto ship of rejects
>captain doesn't act like a captain

>>141589153
>Once again, the actions of a small number of the cast doesn't tell us shit
We literally have a character whose whole point is to be the reasonable one who does commanding by the book. It doesn't matter how many times you insist her and everyone else on the bridge's reactions are irrelevant; they simply are not. Why was she (and everyone else) so wrong, and why was this never brought up given that it's totally contrary to her character?

>Given that we know that in real life the regulations state that you're supposed to report all instances where you get shot at, and given that this show is based off real and historical naval practices/tactics
You're using the realistic military organization of a show about high school girls being given command of fully outfitted warships as an argument, over what actually happened in the episode.

Well, good luck with that.

>This fact makes it pretty obvious that the Harekaze does not have hostile intentions, as there is no way a mutineer vessel would be doing this.
It's something that gives the mutineer a clear advantage over not doing it, so I don't see why they wouldn't. And of course again again: they were in the dark until the mutiny accusation happened, doubly so since it was explicitly pointed out that the Sarushima shouldn't have sunk from the attack and so they assumed they'd just hit it with a dummy.

> The only fucking reason I'm complaining about the characters is because they were poorly written.
No, you - or the post which you have been defending - said that Mike was a bad captain. That's not the same thing as being a badly written good captain.

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>>141589448
>Top of the class

>>141589377
>They're the worst of the bunch
The show isn't even internally consistent about that! It claims the crew of the Harekaze are the worst students in the school, and yet we see the Torpedo Officer scoring a direct hit with one torpedo fired in her first engagement, we see the Artillery Officer literally shoot BB shells out of the air with the ships own guns, we've seen the entire Engineering Crew be pretty competent overall, etc. The show tells us they're supposed to be the worst students in the school, but instead we see that for the most part they're all hyper competent at their jobs.

>>141589521
Shut up Mike, you just crammed the day before and got lucky while Shiro studied for days and got screwed over.

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>>141589447
>Even if getting shot at with live ammunition was somehow part of the training, then they should still send up a contact report because that's still the proper procedure and they should be training to do that as well.
If that were true, Shiro should have realized, especially considering that she was specifically shown in the same scene following the exact protocol for an apology. A training exercise isn't going to log every practice engagement at the highest level of command.

>With live ammunition?
Sure, fiction always raises the stakes. Nobody would have cared they were just watching dummy shells.
>That results in the injury of one or more students?
It didn't. They assumed it was deliberate warning shots to scare them or force them to react.

>>141589649
I thought she was going to be the super smug torpedo gunner from the first episode

>>141589574

hyper competent he said,... the best of the best student can crippled 16 state of art ship without electronic device

compared to harekaze, you can say the crew is bad

>>141589498
>It's something that gives the mutineer a clear advantage over not doing it
Oh yea, please explain why mutineers would not only give an initial contact report during the incident, but then continue to give supplementary reports after the incident while attempting to coordinate their next course of action with HQ. Because that totally makes sense. You fucking retard.

>said that Mike was a bad captain
She is a bad Captain. Prove me wrong. Oh wait, you can't.

Is this show anything like kancolle?

>>141589789
This actually makes some sense. Modern ships rely mostly on AshMs as the primary means of engaging other ships. Without those, and without any electronic equipment functioning at all they're pretty much fucked against a well armed and armored WWII BB. On the other hand, literally shooting 18" BB shells out of the sky is bullshit no matter how you look at it.

>>141589789

- just 30 crew manage yamato class battle ship
- without electonic device
- berserk state
- crippled 16 state of art ship
- run away with insignificant demage

the best of the best

>>141589735
When the ship you're supposed to send your report to is the one shooting at you, you send your report to the next higher level.

>Sure, fiction always raises the stakes.
An instructor shooting at their students with live ammo to prove a point or teach them a lesson is stupid in any fiction.

>It didn't. They assumed it was deliberate warning shots to scare them or force them to react.
It did. They literally did a damage report and reported that the look-out officer received minor injuries, while the ship took little (but still some) damage.

>>141589843
They're both an ugly mix of SoL and drama.

>>141589900
>On the other hand, literally shooting 18" BB shells out of the sky is bullshit no matter how you look at it.

But mind control rats are totally excusable.

>>141589812
>Oh yea, please explain why mutineers would not only give an initial contact report during the incident, but then continue to give supplementary reports after the incident while attempting to coordinate their next course of action with HQ
Because their cover is going to be blown eventually, especially since the entire rest of the training fleet were there to see, and getting their pursuers to spend as long as possible not seriously pursuing them is a good idea. You have to start to serious pursuit right away, regardless of what the suspects claim. The only way their story would make sense is if the school's trusted instructor blew a hole in her own ship just to frame a bunch of random students - clearly nonsense, they must be mutineers.

>Prove me wrong. Oh wait, you can't.
That feeling when you realize you've been arguing with a troll for an hour.

Oh well, never mind.


>>141590024
>An instructor shooting at their students with live ammo to prove a point or teach them a lesson is stupid in any fiction.
Lots of fiction is stupid, or at least takes liberties with realism for the sake of spectacle. If you have a problem with that, anime might just not be the genre for you, especially not ones about girls high school destroyer crews.

>the look-out officer received minor injuries
Keyword: minor. If that were the extent of the scrapes from a brutal spartan training course, I'd call it a straight-up anticlimax.

>>141590098
>>141589900
Intercepting a Mach 2 projectile is possible, just really hard to make that hard kill.

>>141588183
>no mike

trash list

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>>141591270
Only competent people allowed.

>>141591161
It's possible in the same way that Hillary Clinton being indicted is possible.

ara, obake desu wa

>>141591407
This is an old man.

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>>141592736
Shut it.

>>141592921
There's nothing wrong with liking an old man in a cute girl's body.

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>>141591270
>no Kuro

Not a trash list.

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>>141561246
DDH never

>>141582576
Surely, go to school at the morning is an anime cliche too.

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>>141593551
>>141593551
>Kaga
>Not even carrier

Not so mou sugoi here actually.

>>141593551
Kill yourself.

>>141593743
Those gun harness things look even dumber than strike witches' aeroplane leggings.

Why are all the secondary girls so best in this show?

>doctor-chan
>lookout-chan
>engineer-chan
>sonar-chan

>Request stations to report in
>Get angry when stations proceed to report in
Bad luck, right?

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>>141594001

>>141590246

iam agree with this anon, why you see a scene in a movie or anime rather than think "why they didn't do this or that" you must think "why they took that decision, what make them think this or that is right"

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Does this mean, that she's bavarian?
How can she keep on getting better and better?

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>>141592736
Engineers are the first to die. That she acts like an old man will keep her department alive.

Come to think of it, how did Maron end up on the Harekaze anyway? She seems to have her shit together.

>>141594197
Is being a bitch to people trying to be nice to you a Bavarian trait?

I'm not surprised that Wilhelmina is as autistic as deutsch-kun who was posting the other day.

>>141593743
Mou sugoi battleship Kaga-san!

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Just how does she do it? How does Mike get all the bitches wet?

>>141594240
She didn't use all the parts provided during exam to repair the prime mover in question. In short, Maron failed not due to her lack of technical competence, but failing to adhere to 'safety standards.'

I think Dr.Minami is no different given how little qualm Minami has to experiment on herself.

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Brown sugar anyone?

>>141594269
Fuck that Bayerischer.

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>>141594483
Is Kuro just a shitty engineer?

>>141594240
she probably asked for it

"give me the hardest to fix shit you got that always breaks"

>>141594475
>all
Only Rin, though. You can argue that Shiro is in denial but other those 2, no one else on the ship likes her that way.

>>141594572
She's too busy trying to engineer herself into becoming Shiro's wife.

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>>141594591
She's got some intense competition.

>>141594572
Kuro is Maron's assistant so she had to go down the pit hole with Maron.

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Mike looks better than Moka or Shiro in uniform.

>>141594672
Maron wishes Kuro would go down her pits and holes.

>>141594691
Mike looks better than Moka or Shiro.

>>141594619
They drew her so well and cute.

>>141594691
Where'd she get that jacket?

>>141594773
Look at the size, she clearly stole it from Moka.

>>141582839
>As for the second point, I highly doubt actual mutineers would call back to their base to come up with up with an excuse for their actions. After all, that would still draw attention to themselves that they don't want,
This.
When one side reports an incident and the other hides away, it's a likely mutinny situation. When there's an incident and both sides file their version, it's a "let's send someone to find WTF happened" situation instead.
Sadly, that's not what happened. Kindly notice NONE of the girls thought of that, ALL them (captain, XO, bridge crew, everyone down to the soul of the rice cooker) went for the "let's hide" route

>>141594831
Why would Moka let her steal her jacket? She's supposed to be a top student.

>>141582576
>after falling in cold sea water, getting a warm freshwater shower, drying oneself and putting on dry clothes is a meme
I pray for you to be trolling

>>141594862
I'm pretty sure they said that sending messages wasn't possible but receiving them was.

>>141594912
Sometimes girls wear their boyfriend's shirts/jackets.

>>141583656
Are you not laughing??? Why are you not?

>>141582865
>If I get soaked from rain walking home I just throw the clothes in the drying and towel off a bit.
You have to remember Japan is a rather cold place. Most of times, the rain there isn't exactly warm. You need to do something to feel warm again. Heat yourself from the outside with a warm shower, Japan style, or from the inside with a warm drink, English style (another cold, rainy island), whatever works, but FFS, heat yourself, Anon!

>>141594947
Why the fuck would they do that?

>>141584278
Good point, if not for the fact they were talking what to do if Musashi CAME TO A PORT

What are Moka's breast size?

>>141594947
Mike would be the male in that position though.

>>141594977
>Japan is a rather cold place
What are you comparing it with, Caribbean islands?

>>141594240
>how did Maron end up on the Harekaze anyway?
Because lesbian containment ship

>>141594483
>She didn't use all the parts provided during exam to repair the prime mover in question. In short, Maron failed not due to her lack of technical competence, but failing to adhere to 'safety standards.'
Is there suplementary material telling all that (and if so, is it translated), or are you just making that up? I'm fine with either, it's amusing

>going this far to defend one of the shittiest writings of the season

This show is almost on par with Big Order and Mayoiga.

>>141594937
Thet didn't send any message out. They even switched off their personal equipment (tablets...) to enforce radio silence.

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>>141595107
Nothing wrong with mind control.

>>141595070
>What are you comparing it with,
Civilization

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>>141595107
>he's not watching it for the girls

>>141595142
Tama is cute!

>>141595160
>watching it for the girls
I am watching cute Kagerou doing Kagerou things.
Would watch BLÅHAJ doing BLÅHAJ things as well.

>>141595160
I am though, that's why I'm pointing it out, the discussion is pointless.