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What is the point of this show?
>>141417125
Being intelligent and deep.
Gotta balance out Luluco with something not fun.
Kokoro Connect without best girl
to usher in the end of Okada's career
>>141417125
To make fun of Okada
Cute girls being cute
>>141417125
Watching notEsdeath.
>>141417125
watching the interpersonal relations of the 7 retards while trying not to want to kill MC for being such a faggot
NOT KAMINA is best character.
and there is also the reverse rape scene
What is the point of any anime?
>>141418399
Picked up.
>>141418461
your loss...
>>141418568
>..
Fuck off.
>>141417125
Having the cast experiences childhood friend pain and suffering.
>>141417642
Chidori is easily the cutest girl of the season.
>>141418439
1 - money
2 - humoring animators
>>141417125
Enjoying the best animation, art and direction this season has to offer
>>141418649
of the year
>>141418399
tumblr pls go
>>141418399
What I wouldn't do to be raped by Maki.
>>141418741
>tumblr
call me a faggot, but never, dare to imply I related to that shit hole
To fluff trigger's catalogue with mediocre, full-length shows as opposed to the usual unfunny shorts.
>>141418649
chidori's a stereotypical anime bitch and worst girl that needs to die by the end. nico's the superior choice.
>>141418816
>stereotypical
she's very different from your typical tsundere
What is this anime about, anyway?
this is 13 episodes right?
>almost halfway through
>nothings happened
>big event/death hasn't happened yet
>>141418912
Human interactions between archetype characters, with a tweest. And forced drama. So at the moment literally nothing.
>>141418773
Then don't share their idea that only men can commit rape and that if women do it has to be a different term.
It's just rape no matter who does it to who.
>>141418933
>Then don't share their idea that only men can commit rape and that if women do it has to be a different term.
>It's just rape no matter who does it to who
are you by any chance autistic?
>>141418816
>Chidori's a bitch
If I had fallen in love with the MC in the past when he used to be different and he acted like the way he did in episode 3, I'd want to kick him in the dick.
>>141418950
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, tumblr.
>>141418927
If we gotta judge by the BDs on the site, it's gonna be 1 cour, but there's no official info
>>141419000
>>141418927
The animation looks expensive. You can nearly always tell when its 2cour.
I am worried. Red still seems to like Kacchon and he has started to be the person she wants him to be.
>>141418932
Oh gee, just what I excepted from Okada. Luckily, my experienced with Gundam Iron-Blood make me stay away from this anime.
>>141418932
>forced drama
when will this meme die
>>141417125
>show defies genre
>"HELP WHATS THE POINT OF THIS I DONT GET IT"
>"ITS ALL OVER THE PLACE, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING"
God I hate you people so much.
>>141419104
Being different =/= being good. That's Max Landis logic.
>>141419068
Apathic little shit will wake up to "feel again", fall in love with Red, but she will fall in love with Not Kamina, which is brotier and trying to set them up together.
Drama ensues.
You heard it here first.
>>141419096
Except it is not a meme in this case.
It was literally Sonozaki forcing drama to make otherwise unfriendly people "connect".
Are you even watching the show?
>>141417125
To unironically watch boys interact with girls due to a deus ex machina that makes them question the nature of wounds.
>>141419120
being different =/= being bad
Just cause you don't get what the show is about yet or doesn't seem to be easy to guess in which direction it will go doesn't mean it's a bad show
>>141419165
>over 1 hour into show
>the narrative and tone are still all over the place
That's called 'bad writing'.
>>141419145
if they make chidori and tenga happen i will fly to japan just to take a shart on trigger's doorstep.
you heard it here first.
>>141419145
>It was literally Sonozaki forcing drama to make otherwise unfriendly people "connect".
By that reason all drama that is caused by an external source is "forced". Flash news, drama ensues because something changes the status quo, it doesn't appear from nothing.
>>141419145
making unfriendly people connect is the point of the fucking project, you moron
sonozaki specifically says they picked problematic people who would never associate with each other
>>141418933
>gets trigger by rape-terminology
>calls other people tumblr
I have bad news for you kid.
>>141417125
To stroke the ego of whoever wrote it. He's smarter than you, OK? We will never understand the level of his pretentiousness.
>>141417125
>this anime is not the same generic SoLshit i watch every season
>im scared guys please tell me whats going on
>>141419195
either adhd or autism
>>141419207
You dense motherfucker.
If sothing happens, for a reason or by chance, and it accidentaly brings out drama, it's okay.
If you do an action with the only intent of creating drama, that's forced.
>>141419231
I'm not saying it's not the point of the project.
I'm saying that the point of the project is forcing drama for drama's sake.
I'm actually quite enjoying it, but I'm not so blind not to call things by their name.
>>141418912
It's a show about nothing, except the main characters can share each other's physical pain. It's a total melodramatic edgefest. I dropped it after episode 2 after it became clear that it was headed nowhere.
>>141417125
Didn’t you get the memo kid? It is no longer cool to hate on Okada.
>"wow this show is about nothing! but I while i'm telling you this I'm also enjoying Flying Shit aka the most boring show of the season but it doesn't matter! this one is about nothing!"
Shitposters, everyone. The quality of them has dropped a lot lately.
>>141418933
>>141418741
>People still pretending Kiznaiver is anything but AOTY
When is this meme going to stop?
>>141419355
But that show is le "comfy"!
Trigger really is the best studio.
To make you speak about it, so it is successful.
>>141419299
>If you do an action with the only intent of creating drama, that's forced.
How stupid do you have to be to think they made them become kiznaivers just for the sake of creating drama?
Or do you genuinely think Okada made the kizuna system as a simple plot device and it will not be a central feature of the series?
>>141417125
Dropped this after the cringefest that was episode 3, does it get any worse?
>>141419416
Yes. Now fuck off.
Chidori being cute
I actually like it when I read of people hating on this series for the most asinine reasons.
Makes me feel like only true patricians can appreciate forms of art as polished and unique as Kiznaiver.
how can one boy be so cute? science help
>>141419446
>Okada
>patrician
>>141419416
You dropped it, get the fuck out or pick it up and see for yourself. We're not in your brain. Fortunately.
>Anime that isn't a slice of life airs
>"T-this is just pretentious edgy shit"
Every season.
>>141419355
At least I can't cut myself while watching Flying Shit.
>>141419458
every single boy and girl in the series is either cute af or hot af
>>141419469
>it's edgy so it's bad
i want moeshitters to leave
>>141419396
Maybe in the future.
At the moment tha kizuna system has been used only to create tension and dramatic situations.
Hence, thus far, it's forced drama.
>>141419446
>lacks a coherent plot or theme but tries to cover the deficiency with thick pretentiousness
>"h8ers gonna h8, tho"
>>141419465
>anime isnt about 4 girls doing nothing but lesbian shit
>WHY DOES THIS ANIME EXIST!?
>>141419506
"pretentious" is a codeword for "I don't get it, and this makes me upset so I will attempt to lower its perceived level to make myself feel better about my subpar intelligence"
thanks for proving my point, here's a (You)
>>141417125
to show that sonozaki is a cute
>>141419195
do you have to be fed by a nurse. or being this stupid is normal to you?
>>141419490
>>141419518
>>141419552
Cut the emotional bullshit. Why is your only defense of this anime to strawman its criticism and ad hominem its critics? I've yet to see a single rational explanation of why you think the anime is good.
>>141419589
>some kid on 4chan calls a college graduate dumb because his favorite animay is bad
>>141419599
Not even one of the anons you quoted but we ad hominem its critics because they're all retarded shitposters like you.
"I don't know what to say, better call bad writing without explaining why it's bad, let me just say it's bad because I say so"
Fuck off.
>>141419599
Stop projecting on logical fallacies and give some actual criticism.
I have yet to see an explanation of why you think it's bad that doesn't resort to buzzwords.
If you can structure your thoughts into an actual discussion instead of bursting into memes i will be glad to discuss.
>>141419621
>look at me im a college graduate, how dare you say i'm dumb, my shitty opinion is absolute
pathetic
>>141419621
>college graduate
>smart
No wonder you're retarded.
>>141419711
They told you they don't get it. Elaborate then.
>>141419679
>>141419711
You are not learning your lesson very well. I guess you don't really care about not being taken seriously? Then again why write up such a long reply if you understand that people will continue to not take you seriously for once again doing the exact things you have been criticized for doing?
>>141417125
Why does she look transgendered?
Its obvious they are just baiting
Dont respond to them
>>141419767
>I was asked to prove why it's bad writing
>I don't know what to say because I'm retarded
>Let me write some meaningless shit instead trying to be le ebin trole
You're the worst kind of human abort, kill yourself.
>>141419733
These are the reasons they've brought up
>there's forced drama
>it's edgy
>nothing happens
>it's pretentious
I'm not wasting my time on obvious bait and memeposting. anyone who posts like that is clearly uninterested in having a discussion and would resort to baiting and trolling anyways.
>>141419465
>>141419518
>Waaah! Why isn't this anime gurren lagann?
>UGH FUCKING SOLSHITEATERS /v/ HAS WAY BETTER TASTE IN ANIME THAN /a/!
>>141419889
They think it's all over the place so they don't get it as you stated, now elaborate on the plot.
Chidori's so sweet. I hope she gets a good ending.
>>141417305
>Kokoro Connect
>Saw
>Breakfast Club
>Sense8
Good lord, what else has this anime been compared to?
>>141419355
I think the disdain lies within what Kiznaiver was setting up to be or rather what I've thought to be. I can't speak for Flying Witch but I submit Kuma Miko. Sure it's another SoL so you can expect there to be little progress, but at the same time you weren't here for that. The characters and the situations (sexual or funny) were enough to keep you sticking around. It's like coming to see a show that's advertised as a horror, but it turns out it's a comedy; subverted expectations, if you will.
I can't speak for everyone else but I expected there to be an enjoyable cast, character driven drama, and perhaps the Kizuna conspiracy to be at least slightly suspenseful. I liked the premise but the characters I didn't care for (I dislike Sonozaki and Hisomu) and from what I can make from things past episode 3, where I put it on hold/dropped it, nothing really piqued my interest.
I'm still lurking the threads hoping there will be something to get me back on the train again. I dropped the aforementioned Kumamiko due to my prejudice, picked it up, then turned out enjoying it, so maybe Kiznaiver will do the same but so far I'm interested in the destination but the journey isn't too promising.
>>141419963
>now elaborate on the plot
Do you expect me to give you a summary of the episodes or what?
what is it that you don't get about the plot?
why do you think it's all over the place?
>>141420025
I don't, they said it was all over the place and you said they don't get it. So, elaborate on the plot.
>>141419599
You want me to give you a 300 world autismoclasm about why it'good, like how your kind do with moeshit like Keion?
No, fuck off instead.
>>141419991
Chidori's so sweet. Obviously she exists only to suffer.
>>141419999
>This show is advertised as character drive "drama"
>We got 5 episodes of character interactions
>but I don't like the characters
Then don't watch it since the characters won't change any time soon.
Still
>I dislike some of the Kiznaiver characters but pedobear and generic loli are entertaining
Eh
>>141419999
Something big is bound to happen sooner or later, but it's mainly about the characters, so if you don't like them don't even bother.
I mean, they will most likely change and grow by the end of the series, it seems to be its point, but if you don't enjoy watching them interact it won't be any fun to watch.
Anyways i don't think you got to like most of the characters of a series to like the series itself... I mean, I dislike almost all characters from evangelion but it's still one of my favourite series.
>>141420063
I don't understand you, are you trying to be an impartial watcher of the discussion or do you just want me to sperg out on why I like the series so you can nitpick at everything I write?
I'm not gonna write an essay on why I think Kiznaiver is good if you just keep going "elaborate on the plot" like that.
>>141420180
So it was a draw to 0.
>>141420225
Why do you type like a mongoloid?
>>141420225
Some battles are not worthy of being fought I guess.
Both parties need to be equally invested in the discussion for it to be profitable, and shitposting doesn't deserve serious answers.
>>141417125
UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
THE CONCEPT OF LOVE
>>141420262
I was very clear with my "demands" but you pulled back and put it at "my opinion vs theirs". So, 0 to 0.
>>141420317
I'm not the anon you were talking to mong. I was just interested in why you type like an autist.
>>141420397
The fuck you said about me you discount dog shit?! I am an A rank user!
>>141420419
>>141420451
Don't bump the thread with stupid garbage you imbecile! Lack of thread etiquette pisses me off too!
>>141420317
You're very good at dodging questions
Why don't YOU say what you like/dislike and we start from there instead of going on with your autistic demands of "elaborating on the plot"?
>>141420476
>thread etiquette
Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong site, reddit is two blocks down.
>>141420486
Stop replying to him honestly, he's just baiting poorly.
>multiple people providing well reasoned explanations for their disappointment with the show
>"these are just memes and buzzwords!"
No, they're coherent opinions. You're the one spouting memes and buzzwords because you think that excuses you from your hypocritical position of tearing down everybody else but contributing nothing to the discussion yourself.
>"i don't HAVE TO explain why it's good, so stop bothering me!"
Then stop demanding other people spoonfeed their opinions to you like you're a little baby.
>"kiznaiver doesn't HAVE TO be 'about' anything because slice of life exists!"
Here's the problem: Kiznaiver isn't slice of life. It's intended as drama and, as such, has different expectations to meet. Dramas have their own standards, as action and comedy have their own, different standards. Kiznaiver isn't doing a good job meeting people's expectations, and this reflects poorly on the writing, which to a large degree lacks substance.
Like I said earlier, cut the emotional bullshit. You're only fooling yourselves.
>>141420486
Because I saw it as a good way moving shit from "my word vs yours". After all you were the one that countered with "you don't get it".
>>141420503
Global rules you extra chromosomed garbage.
>>141420521
>Kiznaiver is bad because it doesn't meet people expectantions (What expectantions?)
>It's bad because it doesn't follow the drama genre (What do you expect out of a drama?)
>The writing is poor (Why is it poor?)
You literally said nothing of substance in a 10 lines post, amazing. Literally next level brain deficit: the reply.
Hoping this is bait honestly.
>>141420575
>The quality of posts etc.
You're not respecting that one aspie considering you type like an inbred mongoloid.
Please stop replying to this retarded shitposter and bumping this thread.
>>141420521
>multiple people providing well reasoned explanations for their disappointment with the show and coherent opinions, not memes and buzzwords!
>>141417262
>>141418775
>>141417305
>>141417532
>>141417548
>>141418927
>>141418932
>>141419148
>>141419195
>>141419259
>>141419304
I could give more examples but it got bored. Read this pile of garbage and tell me again these are well reasoned explanations and not memes, baiting, buzzwords and shitposting.
>>141420616
You are the one bumping the thread. Funny because you started the whole thing you shit-throwing ape.
When they'll reveal Lavander hair face? In the morgue scene during episode two she had freckles.
Freckle-chan must've been the cutest.
And the story is explicit: to form connections ala Oregairu to obtain something genuine beyond superficiality.
>>141420671
>implying I'm bumping
There's a secret to avoid bumping thread that newfags like you don't know about.
Still, you keep coming back for more, you can't avoid enjoying getting insulted right, you little buttslut?
>>141420689
Oregairu is literally wish-fulfillment haremshit with the unpopolar kid being the only male alive for the female population of his school.
Please don't ever compare it to anything that isn't literal trash.
>>141420714
I knew you bumped at least once you dingus, don't pretend.
>>141420689
I'm eager to know more about that stuff too.
Especially after Maki's rapey scene in the last episode.
>>141420575
Once again your skill at avoiding to answer is staggering.
Expose your thoughts instead of remaining in your safe space and maybe.
If some inbred retard shows up and goes "X thing is shit" without adding anything, I'm not gonna write an essay defending X thing.
>>141418842
No, she's the very archetype of tsundere.
Kiznaiver characters are all walking archetypes of some sort, they're not exaggerations or caricatures you usuall see. They're more ampled down.
Strangely enough the only decent Kiznaiver threads we have on /a/ are the ones right after an episode has aired, and those threads usually should be the ones full of shitposters. I guess you can't truly predict the minds of retards.
>>141420784
My safe space? I know nothing about this show so I can't argue for or against. Once you get out of YOUR safe space then you will have a point, after all you did the "so you don't get it then" thingy.
>>141420806
An archetypal tsundere wouldn't confess in the second episode.
She's still one but only like 1/3 tsundere.
>>141420087
I guess what I wanted to see was character evolution. Remember, these people barely had anything to do with each other and perhaps with these tasks which would make characters bond they would evolve. I guess it didn't turn out the way I was expecting it
>I dislike some of the Kiznaiver characters but pedobear and generic loli are entertaining
That's right, I find what you call a generic loli and a bear more entertaining than the cast of Kiznaiver and the sad part is that Kiznaiver was supposed to be character driven given the premise and Kumamiko like I said is a slice of life so character development is a perk if it does happen, but this is subjective.
>>141420132
Like I said to above the only characters I didn't like were Sonozaki, who seems like a bitch, and Hisomu, I never found masochists funny and his effeminate yelps were annoying too he was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was hoping all characters to evolve and I would actually care if something to befall them. Maybe you guys were right, if the characters haven't changed this far, don't expect to like them later on.
>Something big is coming
I hope this doesn't do this in the last 3 episodes for a desperate, rushed climax. If it's 12 episodes, my misgivings only increase.
>Anyways i don't think you got to like most of the characters of a series to like the series itself... I mean, I dislike almost all characters from evangelion but it's still one of my favourite series.
That's a hard one, but more power to you. I can't stick around if the characters are spiteful (I made this mistake with Infinite Stratos and Seitokai no Ichizon)
>>141417125
At least the show is good overall? i want to watch it but i've read a big shitstorm about it
>>141420753
>Hkikgaya bullied
>Katsuhira bullied
>Hikigaya love Yukino the reserved and collected girl while possibly liking Yuigahama the social bubbly girl out of the pair
>Katsuhira have an interest in Sonozaki the mysterious reserved and called girl while possibly liking Chidori the social bubbly girl of the pair
>both series have two autists and one normalfag
Could've fool me, anon. Yet, I won't get fooled again. I can see the ending a mile away, Katsuhira x Sonozaki are OTP as much as Hikigaya x Yukino.
>>141420858
>>141420806
How is she a tsundere?
>>141420913
It'swatch it and form your own opinion
>>141420806
As a dude who hates tsundere with burning passion, I can tell that you are full of shit.
Chidori is miles better than those cunts.
>>141420876
>That's right, I find what you call a generic loli and a bear more entertaining than the cast of Kiznaiver
That's not the show's fault though, it's just your down syndrome.
>>141420853
>I know nothing about this show so I can't argue for or against
Get the fuck out of this thread
>>141420816
Noticed that too, but only after episode 3 or so. The first kiznaiver threads were horrifying.
>>141420876
They are growing as characters, if this is what you want to know. I don't know if this will be the major point of the series but it's surely happening.
Autist MCis showing interest in someone and is truly thinking about his condition. also he's showing gratitude to chidori, and he's behaving in a different way from the start.
Sonozakiwas shown to be more similar to Kacchon than we thought and to have no power at all over the project
Makiwas hinted at having a major psychological issue that will probably be tackled later on
Yutais a lot different than what I had thought initially.
Tenga, Chidori, Nico and Hisomuhaven't changed much though.
It honestly baffles me when people say Okada is a good writer. The only good thing she's ever worked on is Toradora, and Toradora is an ADAPTATION
Okada's style is the worst of both words - it is sloppy AND slow
An Okada show will be slow to start up but quick to end, it will have characters bumble around and then suddenly act like massive retards to end the show
There's a reason her shows all tank - she's just not very good
I think the only reason people defend her is out of a sense of stubborn contrarianism
>>141421010
I can't be ordered by a C rank user, know your place.
>>141421024
>There's a reason her shows all tank - she's just not very good
>What is AnoHana?
There's a reason you're not a very good shitposter, you don't even know what you're shitposting about.
Literal retards, everyone.
>>141421010
>hinted
pretty sure corpses talking to you isn't normal, and she took it like it was normal and happened often, and had more of a rapey look in her eyes than fear at the time. strictly speaking, her confession that she had a terrible personality was probably 100% correct, but more in the sense that she has some form of schizophrenia than just as a statement that she is a bitch.
>>141421058
>AnoHana
People like that show because of the directing and insert-song, not because of the writing.
Too bad Okada isn't the director or song-writer:(
>>141421010
Thanks for the info. Again, it's not like I dropped it and perhaps it's my impatience putting me on edge which is why I may wait for a batch download to see it in it's entirety.
>>141420994
Fine, I'll bite shitposter. What did I tell you about the liking these characters being subjective? No, it's not the show's fault that they don't cater to me. Does it by default make it a bad show? No.
>>141421024
>>141421093
yeah, i'm sure she keeps consinstently getting hired because she has mind control powers
Okada is a boring, sloppy writer.
Everytime she writes a script I groan. She always does the same thing. She'll set up a potentially interesting premise and then fail to deliver on it
Those poor Gundam IBO fags. They were praising Okada as a genius during the first three episodes
Then, because the writer was fucking Okada, nothing happened until the end, where we see a girl get a drill through the chest and be fine the next episode because god forbid something unexpected happens in an Okada show
>>141417125
Sonozaki being a semen demon.
>>141421121
>I may wait for a batch download to see it in it's entirety.
that would probably be the best option, since getting small hints at plot advancements every week is a bit frustrating, but I love the art and direction so much I can't help but watch the new episode asap every time.
>>141421122
Kek, as if getting hired means you're any good. Reminder that the main writer of Aldnoah Zero was the guy who wrote Boku No Pico
>>141421121
There's no subjectiveness in you having down syndrome anon. Now stop replying to me and keep dreaming about being raped by a bear out of this thread.
>>141421024
>>141421159
You're a boring, sloppy samefag.
>>141420858
>>141420943
>>141420989
In the classical meaning of the word like one of Rumiko's characters. Not like the the cookie cutter Shakugan No Shana clones.
>>141421179
Never said that getting hired means you're good, but anyone who says Okada never writes stuff that sells decently is delusional.
>>141421217
I still don't see it.
>>141421195
>Two people d-don't like muh Okada!
>B-better call them a samefag
Pathetic.
>>141420784
>Especially after Maki's rapey scene in the last episode
It could be probable Freckle-chan rejected Maki sentiments, or she were the better and likeable one out of the duo, where everyone idealized her and Maki felt excluded.
I wouldn't set it aside me if Okada wrote Maki as the lesbian of the group. Or, at least bisexual, if Maki x Yuta is to happen in the finale.
>>141421285
It's hard to use paint. It took you longer than expected though, which only confirms your mental deficit shitposter-kun.
>>141421355
I still think it has to do with rape.
Maki has clear problems with her body, "has no interest in herself" and reacts in an irritated way when questioned about her past.
She also has no interest in making love in a "pure" way, but she doesn't act like a slut that enjoys sex as a merely physical act.
My guess is that purple hair was her sister and both were abused by her father, but she did nothing to stop him and this caused her death.
>>141420937
Shit taste.
I bet you are a Reifag as well.
>>141417125
They decided to make an entire show around the "break the cutie" trope
This show was looking pretty shit so far, but the latest episode really gave me some faith in it.
The unappealing characters are improving, and the poorly realized setting is slowly being fleshed out. Even the ridiculous over-the-top stuff feels like it's going to start making sense.
Definitely hard to chew, though.
>>141417125
Kizuna between friends is a great thing.
>**2,457位/**2,457位 (***,179 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/06/08 Kiznaiver
BRAVO OKADA
BRAVO
>141421810
Not even worth a (You).
Apply yourself.
>141421875
>kek
I usually avoid using kek when shitposting because it makes it too obvious. Take this as a lesson.
>>141421965
>**2,457位/**2,457位 (***,179 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/06/08 Kiznaiver
>>141420650
>Picking just the shittiest post instead of the reasoned ones
Goddamn, not one honest person in this shit thread.
>141421997
Now that's an image directly from /v/.
You're really not helping me in teaching you how to be a good shitposter.
>>141421810
sounds pretty good for early sales
>>141422007
>reasoned ones
where?
>>141421810
Its getting higher by the episode
It will be nice if it gets at least 3k
Isn't the director of this a newbie?
He's pretty good.
>>141422040
In this thread.
Everyone defending this show claiming "you watch shit anime all the time so you have no right to question this one" need to fuck off.
I don't have a problem with this show, the OP is good, it's nice to look at, but it is pretty boring so far, andpretty boy was a let down.
>>141422118
The only one who wasn't baiting or shitposting is this anon >>141419999.
>>141422161
I agree. I like it myself, but I'm not going to pretend the critique isn't justified.
>>141422040
That's fucking horrendous for early sales
>>141422253
I agree, this show is bad because I say it's bad. Don't bother about it.
>>141422161
Trigger and Okada go together like oil and water.
The director's desperate drive to being ANY energy into the show is distracting, because the script clearly is more lowkey and boring
I've no idea why Imaishi thought Okada was a good fit for Trigger
Then again, maybe he DIDN'T, which is why he made Luluco this season
>>141422267
The stalker thread is the other way. Nobody except autists care about the early sales of an original show they enjoy anyway.
>>141422267
Well, the main part of the plot hasn't started yet and it's been getting better with each episode.
What are the sales of the other shows this season?
>>141422301
>Well, the main part of the plot hasn't started yet and it's been getting better with each episode.
The "main part" doesn't matter, the show's halfway over with. If you haven't got the ball rolling now, you're gonna end up with a rushed Charlotte style disaster
Minus the sales, of course. Okada isn't like Jun Maeda, she doesn't even bring a loyal fanbase with her to buy her trash.
>>141422402
Why do you keep bumping this thread you retarded shitposter?
DO NOT WORRY FRIENDS
IT IS ONLY EARLY SALES
OKADA WILL DELIVER
BASED OKADA WILL DELIVER A SATISFYING CONCLUSION, JUST LIKE SHE DID WITH IRON BLOODED ORPHANS AND AQUARION EVOL
DO NOT LISTEN TO THE ANTI-OKADA INSURGENTS
IGNORE THE PRE-ORDER NUMBERS
THEY ARE OUT TO DECEIVE YOU!
>>141422471
Some day I will understand what kind of mental disease brings people to go into threads of shows they don't like and post autism like this
Why is /a/ so tsundere for Okada?
Anyone have a mp3 of the OP? That shit is impossible to find.
>>141422040
>sounds pretty good for early sales
Okay, I actually like this show, but how fucking deluded are you right now?
>>141421159
>we see a girl get a drill through the chest
No, you saw it. In your delusions.
>delinquent with a heart of gold
Is this the best kind of gap moe?
>>141422298
I'd say sales of an original show are pretty important actually, especially one by Aniplex considering they tend to fund them so often. If this was an adaptation, then yeah, it's understandable to not give a shit, but for an original anime, it's very important
>>141422570
He'll die you know.
>>141422590
I doubt anyone's going to die in this show.
>>141422547
original anime almost never sell well early
especially not dramas, and especially not shows like kiznaiver.
>>141422589
They're not. It's an Okada show. It's not meant to have a 2nd season. I couldn't care less about the sales.
>>141417125
It's funny because she smiles only in the thumbnail.
>>141422631
Like pottery.
>Following three episode rule
>First ep has me intrigued
>Second ep, not sure where this is going but I'm still down
>Third ep ends with most seemingly interesting character literally cumming himself over lol masochism
Jesus fucking Christ, /a/. And you have the audacity to bitch at dissenters about standards.
>>141418399
Did she do it?
Did he enjoy it?
Shit, now I'll have to watch it.
Imagine being Hiroshi Kobayashi and having to be all like “damn, Okada, your writing is fuckin` fine, all sexy with your forced drama stuffed into a one cour season and horrifically stupid characters, I would totally pre-order your show, both as a director and the real me.” when all you really want to do is direct the next season of Rage of Bahamut.
Like seriously imagine having to be Kobayashi and not only direct that show while Mari Okada flaunts her complete incompetence in front of you, your energetic directing barely concealing her terrible script and hacknyed dialogue, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she wrote nonsensical plotlines and introduced new characters
Not only having to tolerate her hack writing but her haughty attitude as everyone on the project tells her she’s TOTALLY EMPOWERED and DAMN, SASUGA MARI-SAN! because they’re not the ones who have to sit there and read plotlines which go absolutely fucking nowhere
You’ve been working on nothing but fun projects and imaginative ideas for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Okinawa. You’ve never even seen any script this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the shit that's oozing out of her script, as she stands there, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her “genre defying"(or at least that's what she's called it) writing as she's shat on both Tomino's and Bandai's legacy in the previous months.
And then the scene is written so fucking badly you have to call for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you’re fucking Hiroshi Kobayashi
You’re not going to lose your future Kill La Kill sequel project over this. Just bear it, Kobayashi.
Hide your shame and bear it.
The director is fucking great. He did in fact direct KLK episode 5 which was one of the best directed episodes.
>>141422749
I'll save you time by saying that they were interrupted before anything happened.
>>141419785She is.
>>141420650
Thanks for supplying so many (You)s to encourage everybody's behavior, anon!
>>141417125
To make me jizz with gainax animation, chara-design and /fa/.
>>141422570
not-kamina is the /fa/est guy
>>141422975
definitely one of the most /fa/ shows this season
i love the fact they bothered to show different outfits
S O O N
O
O
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>>141423009
YES
YEESSS
>>141418726
Stop, please like. Even as a troll this comment literally made my stomach sick.
This show has style yes, but other than that it's fucking hidieous that characters are off model 0% of the time and the animation isn't even remotely above average.
Re:zero, kabaneri and even jojo all look a million times better, go fucking kill yourself.
>>141423009
I want Sonozaki to lay her hands on me.
>>141423219
M-muh directing is all Kiznaiver friends have.
I mean, what are they gonna hold up in high esteem, the writing?
>>141417125
Unfun Hetshit.
>>141423219
kabaneri is the only visually pleasing show of those
>>141423293
>Hetshit
Jesus, the show can't even get the fujoshis
What a failure on every level imaginable
>>141423219
>kabaneri
Literally Slideshow: The Animation.
>but muh shading
OP is the fucking BOMB
the BOMB
>>141423219
Poor bait.
Consider suicide anytime soon.
Honestly the point was to have a quirky interesting character story where 7 high school kids must come to understand one another.
The fact is the execution is absolutely terrible.
It it ended up and unfunny cringe worthy sol, where as the plot is contrived and forced through a poorly written plot device that evolves whenever it needs to.
Uninteresting poorly written one note archetypes clash with one another in the most obvious and generic ways possible for 20 minutes a week.
The art and animation isn't remotely consistent and it looks like shit 90% of the time. The art direction isn't anymore compelling on interesting that literally anything else.
The girls aren't even cute, like that's the easiest part.
The sad thing is there was so much desperate advertising of this shit it's almost sad, turns out it's by far the worst show this season, the shit is literally floping with like 20 pre-orders.
It's sad, but it's a pretty shit show so they deserve it.
>>141423384
>fujoshits like a show
fujo bait, it's shit
>fujoshits don't like a show
even the fujoshits don't like it, it's shit
step up your game, shitposter-kun
>>141423519
Man this is some fine pasta. Saved.
Your existence wasn't so worthless after all.
>>141423422
All the stills and moving lines happen for like 30 seconds total out of a 20 minute show, and that's just WITS style really.
Nothing to complain about since the show looks absolutely gorgeous in motion or just the amazing done close ups.
Yes >muh shading is beautiful, so glad an anime original, hell a side project could look this good.
>>141423519
All this fucking truth.
But this is /a/ so expect trigger fags to try there best to ignore it.
I'm waiting for the twist involving Sonozaki, It's got to happen.
I like the show how it is but its just very uneventful or will fail to leave a memory when it ends.
>>141423536
There's nothing wrong with fujo-pandering
Fujo pandering is why Psycho Pass got two seasons, a movie, and a likely third season as well
But Kiznaiver seems to fail even at fujo pandering
What a hopelessly incompetent project
>>141423582
Kill yourself retard.
>>141423519
I'm fucking done, these niggas at trigger really advertise this shit in a fucking fujoshi magazine, talk about desperate.
And fucking super lovers is projected to sell better yoooooooooo
>>141423642
I remember when someone in the post-episode 2 thread was smugly predicting that Hisomu's appearance would signal the start of fujoshi baiting. Instead, the show is aggressively heterosexual with its ship-baiting.
>>141423611
I am a HUGE Triggerfan, Luluco is making me lose my shit each week
But Trigger and Okada go together TERRIBLY. It's like the WORST combo
You can just SEE Kobayashi desperately trying to give this tepid shitty show energy and failing because the plot is slow and the characters lifeless
>>141423519
>The girls aren't even cute
This is so damn wrong.
>>141423696
>>141423536
Kiznaiver did try to fujo-pander. I mean, they announced the project in fucking PASH
But like everything Kiznaiver has "tried', they failed horribly
Honestly all you had to do to know this project would flop was look at the head script writer
Okada is only half-competent at slice of life
>>141423707
This.
I agree luluco is fucking hilarious.
Like the premise for kiznaiver is pretty bullshit but it could definitely make for an interesting show.
6 episodes in and the sloppy writing is apparent to not be going anywhere.
>>141423384
I wouldn't mind the hetero romances if they were interesting to watch. They're literally just pairing these characters up for the sake of having a guy and girl together.
It's boring.
Have shitposters resolved to reply to each other since no one is giving them (You)s thanks to their obvious baits? Pretty sad.
>>141423519
Alright i'm taking the bait
>unfunny cringe worthy sol
the funny parts are actually funny.
also, using the word cringe means opinion discarded
>poorly written plot device that evolves whenever it needs to
it evolved once, and it evolved because it was meant to evolve from the start. did you even watch last episode?
>Uninteresting poorly written one note archetypes clash with one another in the most obvious and generic ways possible
except they're all not really archetypes, and their conflict is actually rather realistic and endearing
>The art and animation isn't remotely consistent and it looks like shit 90% of the time.
zero artistic sense, and zero taste
>The art direction isn't anymore compelling on interesting that literally anything else.
the direction is objectively amazing
>The girls aren't even cute
now that's blatant baiting, there's so much waifu material in this show i can't even choose which one i like the most
>there was so much desperate advertising of this shit it's almost sad
there was no more advertisting than other anime originals, anon. stop projecting
>by far the worst show this season, the shit is literally floping with like 20 pre-orders
bs
>>141423845
Why are you replying to meme buzzwords: the pasta.
>KIznaiver
Is Trigger, like, obligated to make a bad project for every good one?
>>141423845
>the funny parts are actually funny.
I bet you laugh when you fart in the tub huh autist? The show isn't funny in the least.
>it evolved once, and it evolved because it was meant to evolve from the start.
Evolved into something worse actually....shitty romance of broken people. Fanfuckingtastic.
> realistic and endearing
Pass me whatever drugs you are sniffing if you think Maki is endearing and realistic.
>zero artistic sense, and zero taste
Saying nothing as usual.
>the direction is objectively amazing
No it is objectively shit. See how easy it is to say something without backing it up?
>now that's blatant baiting, there's so much waifu material in this show i can't even choose which one i like the most
Chidori is at best decent but the rest are meh.
>bs
Fine it isn't the worst thing on but it is in the bottom 5. Absolutely terrible in almost all aspects.
>>141423840
It's always like this with mid-week kiznaiver threads
haters just flock a few days after the last episode aired and everyone already gleefully discussed it
>>141419999
I think they're slow-rolling the big reveal of whatever the major plot problem is, but naturally if you don't like the characters now you'll continue to dislike them moving forward.
Personally, I think the issue is with pacing, not with characters. We've gotten several episodes of character interaction and yet we're only just now seeing the emotional impacts of the Kiznaiver project, 5 episodes in? Plus, it's been that many episodes and there still hasn't been any plot development since "you guys share pain now."
Still, I think the show is fun, even if it's only because I enjoy rooting for Chidori.Also nice quads
>Imaishi mecha anime announcement
>Kiznaiver is shelved like P.A. Works Glasslip
Every studio have their good and bad anime.
Trigger is still redeemable, P.A. Works redeem themselves with Shirobako and so can Trigger with the their next anime.
This is weird, I'm actually liking the show a lot. I guess not sharing tastes with most of /a/ is a blessing though
I am still trying to understand why the elites of society are wearing those ridiculous costumes and why Sonazaki is in charge of leading the experiment.
Also where the fuck are these kid's parents anyway? A discussion about where they are going or even talking about where they were on the first episode would be nice....but not let us ignore that.
>>141424068
It's 2/3 shitposters circlejerking every Kiznaiver threads. The actual good discussion is right after an episode has aired.
>>141423840
Well, at least hate threads make the episode discussion threads tolerable because everyone said what they wanted and it is out of their system. I'd rather experience this now then on Saturday.
>>141423960
>The show isn't funny in the least.
I think some scenes are pretty funny, it's a subjective matter.
>shitty romance of broken people.
That's what the show is about, relationships between broken people.
>Pass me whatever drugs you are sniffing if you think Maki is endearing and realistic.
Maki is the exception, but we don't know much of her yet.
>Saying nothing as usual / See how easy it is to say something without backing it up?
Did you back up ANYTHING you've wrote so far, or did you just keep smearing your shitty opninon as if it were a fact?
>but the rest are meh.
Enjoy your moeblobs then, your loss.
>Fine it isn't the worst thing on but it is in the bottom 5.
muh early sales
muh popularity means everything
>Absolutely terrible in almost all aspects.
once again subjective
>>141424068
/a/ is not an hivemind, different people like different things
>>141424203
Come on dude. Stop replying. Not even the tards in the Boku no Hero Academia thread fell for his retarded shit bait after I pasta'd his reply.
Just ignore retards.
I want to fuck Maki and Sonozaki at the same time.
>>141424288
I'm leaving it at that since he bothered to reply
>>141423845
>It is funny :(
You actually fined generic masochist cumming on everyone funny? Kill yourself.
>The plot device is supposed to evolve.
Yes, anon this is what we call poor writing. The writer's can't establish logical rules so they make the plot device as broken as possible for plot connivence and actual fucking retards such as yourself buy it.
>They are not archtypes.
Except they literally are, and they all act exactly how we've seen for ages.
It's like water always putting out fire.
Annoying childhood friend never confesses, then some main bitch pops in and wins, all the while childhood friend is jealous.
Uninteresting and generic plot points ensue it's fucking terrible.
>You have no taste!
The art and animation being inconsistent and have the most QUALITY, isn't a tast thing. it's a fact.
>DA gurls r cute!! Look at muh big eyes, and colorful hair! a cute! a cute!
Bitch, fuck off, the girls aren't any cuter than any other girls in any other show, there's nothing even remotely different or unique about any of them. They are all based off of tired stereotypes and they aren't even executed well.
>they didn't advertise it THAT much.
ooo but they did, aniplex have been advertising this shit for ages and it's still blowing ass.
>Bullshit sales.
Just checked and it has 176 pre-orders total.
Super lovers has 600.
Kill yourself.
>>141423519
>Honestly the point was to have a quirky interesting character story where 7 high school kids must come to understand one another
No, the original conception,
>a traditional battle anime
>meat were the battle scenes; you can fight more because you share your wounds, if you're hurt to much everyone dies together
>Kobayashi told Okada the focus should revolve around the characterization
The story to Kiznaiver gradually evolved over the three years to what it is now: a character drama sci-fi thriller.
Six episodes in and Kiznaiver is a slow-burner. There is still hope in myself the story'll progress into something other then slice-of-life shenanigans and bite into the lore of Sugomori and the Kizuna System/Committee instead of receving the ambiguous fragmental information presented thus far. It's not building itself up for potential and the reveal is probably the most generic shady organization trope imaginable. It's like Okada forgot that and were to focus on writing the psychology of the characters and tossed in anything regarding the city.
>>141424427
I'm not talking about what it was supposed to be before they had a set idea, i'm talking about what it is currently trying to be, and currently failing at.
>>141424421
Man you're already famous, you can stop now.
>>141423808
>>141424028
>>141424450
Despite being a retard your post was funny enough that you deserved to become pasta.
At least your existence had a meaning now.
>>141421464
Rei is best girl.
>>141421423
Whatever the reason, I hope it is justifiable. Although, your reasoning is probable and I can see that as Maki's backstory.
I'm only watching this for Tenga, Yuta, Nico, and whatever autistic stuff MC does.
The only thing this show has going for it is the character designs and the comedy. But the comedy isn't great all the time.
>>141424539
I think it would've done better if there just wasn't a romantic element. They should've kept the cast single gendered and just yuri/fujo baited.
>>141422662
My thoughts exactly. I'm still watching the show because the OP and direction are enjoyable, but I dislike basically the entire cast to a degree.
The "lolmasochism" is especially bad because of how desperate an attempt to write an actual character it is. I didn't even know Okada had anything to do with this, and have no beef with her.
Man, this show really divided people,
really no middle ground, half of the people love it, half hate it.
I honestly like it, i really don't get what people wan't or say.
They say that there's no plot, but then everyone praises monogatari,
witch is basically 50+ episodes of dialogue and fanservice, it too is sill good.
They say the romance is forced, but i really don't get it,
i just seems that people shipped everyone, and since all the ships came true, the romance s forced
The characters are on the surface, one sided, but episode, by episode, they leek more about them selves,
making the point that not everyone is who they seem.
the only con of the show is that the mc really is a autistic faggot,
and, the purple guy is just fanservice, he's a shit, so far his only personalty is
"im a emo-looking weirdo"
Im expecting the story to be bigger soon, they established a very strong base,
the story could end up amazing, and while 13 episodes aren't much it could still be great.
>>141424641
>They should've kept the cast single gendered
That would be kind of weird since they're trying to connect everyone.
>>141424753
This is decent bait. I won't tug the line though because I could destroy you in about 50 lines.
>>141424815
How about you destroy my cock with your mouth, you sissy?
>>141417125
Honestly the show is just disappointing, like I had high hopes that even if it's bad it'd still be entertaining like Kill la kill(which i actually really enjoyed)
But this show is just bad, like there isn't any saving grace besides the art style, which doesn't even look like it'self half the time, it's like they got all the b team to make this.
Whilst luluco has all the style this show has and the crazy animation and visuals but it fits the show so well.
But kiznaiver is just bad. To anyone currently watching, besides the fact that it's made by trigger, why are you watching this?
>>141424868
Wrong it may be bad in general but the opening is godly. So take that.
