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No more SOL shit, at all. It's cancer, and boring at that.

School shit is banned unless the show takes place almost entirely outside the school and doesn't revolve around "normal" school experiences.

Any and all "Average Jap MC is reincarnated to fantasy world" works are hereby banned. This includes battle harems of all flavors as a prerequisite.

No beta, self insert, faggot, "average totally normal" MCs allowed UNLESS they have a reason to be such lame sad sacks, such as Shinji from NGE.

No more "cute girls in scenario that cute girls don't belong" (i.e. Haifuri, GuP, Sora no Woto, Upotte, etc.) unless it's actual warfare, the girls are actually trained soldiers, and people, including cute girls, die horrible war deaths. If you don't want this then stop cramming cute girls into war scenarios you fucks.

Kyoani and Shaft is dissolved as companies and their employees and assets are split among decent anime studios.

More well funded original works, rather than shitty LN/manga adaptations or shit made to appeal to the lowest common denominator just to guarantee success. Give creators more leeway to make different, exciting, or pleasing shows without worrying about printing money or selling merch.

Quality over quantity. One high budget, long term production show beats out a low budget, shitty adaptation or SOL/school/harem/ecchi shit show any day. Also, if you start a story finish it and finish it with finality. No more of this one season hoping for a second season open ended shit. Just make your story as is.

No all female casts. All male casts have the potential to be decent, but all female casts are always objectively horrible and more worried about pandering than making a decent show.
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Congratulations, you've crashed the Manga and Anime market. What are you going to do next?
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>>141188405
>No... "average totally normal" MCs allowed
Why not? So everyone has to be a super special snowflake great at everything, that sounds pretty awful.
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>>141188405
wat

The number of new series and premieres each season is in the double digits. There are certainly trends but the amount of variety available at any given time is pretty unprecedented. If you don't like cute girls shit, don't watch it. If you look at like 30 new shows in a season and see nothing there for you, maybe just give up on anime. Its ridiculous to suggest that pandering to your extremely specific and frankly shitty tastes would "fix" anything.
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>>141188700
Rebuild it into a better version of what it should be.

>>141189237
>implying your shitty moeblob, SOL, idolshit, waifubait shows are indicative of anything but the shittiest of tastes

This is why anime has stagnated as a medium.
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So if I'm reading this right, OP is one of those MUH MANIME retards, in which case you should go shitpost in the nearest Jojo thread or >>>/co/
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>>141188405
you should just stop watching anime.
bam. fixed. go to sleep.
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>>141188405
Fuck off deepfag
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>>141188405
>everything has to be """"arthouse"""" anime that will belong on 3x3 best anime squares
Fuck off retard, right now is a great mix of "anime tailored to its demographic" and anime that breaks the mold, and just because you watch one show a season doesn't mean you've suddenly found the cure
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>>141189529
Why do people keep on assuming OP is a deepfag, his entire post reads like a manime faggot to me.
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>>141189682
He wants high budget, original works, but does not want battle series
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>>141189782
He just said battle harems, I'm fairly sure there are to many girls in battle harems so it triggers manime faggots.
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>>141189782
>This includes battle harems of all flavors as a prerequisite.
Sounds like a manime faggot to me
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>>141188405
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>>141189529
>>141189606
It doesn't need to be deep or artsy, just well animated and have a moderate amount of effort put into it. Almost nothing this season matches that very generous minimum.

>>141189782
>>141189858
I love battle and action series, just not battle harems. Learn to read.

>>141189836
I love girls in series, cute girls are half the reason anime is great. The only problem is all girls casts, because they are always terrible.
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>male characters in anime
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>>141189939
So basically you're one of those manime fuckheads
Please relocate to the nearest toonami thread. I'm sure that you will find yourself at home
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>>141189939
>It doesn't need to be deep or artsy, just well animated and have a moderate amount of effort put into it.
Kabaneri
Boku no Hero Academia
Luluco
Those are just the solid/good ones too, I can stretch for a few more if you really just care about animation quality and "effort".
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>>141190077
>he insulted my idolshit waifubait!
>better use an obsolete buzzword on him

You know my OP is entirely right.

>>141190153
>Luluco
>effort

You're right about the other two, but my OP wasn't a condemnation of ALL anime, just the industry as a whole. Even a broke clock is right occasionally, and the same applies to anime. I want to fix said clock rather than just saying "see it's right twice a day, there's no problem!" like most on /a/ do.
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>>141189939
>It doesn't need to be deep or artsy, just well animated and have a moderate amount of effort put into it.
Yeah sure faggot, I'm sure you're watching ConRev with the other five of us, it's even an original that's getting a complete story.
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>I'm gay and like manime
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>>141190221
>he insulted my idolshit waifubait!
See, this is exactly the kind of shit that gives you away as the typical toonami audience. Please go there instead because it has more of the things you will enjoy
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>>141190221
Luluco definitely has a certain sort of a retarded Trigger love in it. To say that no effort was put in is pretty much just wrong.
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>>141188405
>No more "cute girls in scenario that cute girls don't belong" (i.e. Haifuri, GuP, Sora no Woto, Upotte, etc.) unless it's actual warfare, the girls are actually trained soldiers, and people, including cute girls, die horrible war deaths. If you don't want this then stop cramming cute girls into war scenarios you fucks.

SO SAY WE ALL!
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>>141188405

Anime doesn't need to be fixed. Just look at all the great anime we have this season:

Pan de Peace
Kuma Miko
Bakuon!!
Netoge
Anne Happy
Haifuri
Flying Witch
Sansha Sanyou

Only a gay homosexual would think this season needs to be "fixed."
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>>141190265
>stop insulting muh idols!

Your idols are being used like the filthy onahole they are by their producer every night. Sleep well.

>>141190260
I won't say it's bad since I haven't seen it, but everything I've seen makes it look and sound really uninteresting. It's in my backlog if that makes you feel better.

>>141190278
It feels like they put in tons of effort just to make it feel like they put no effort in. Maybe the actual work done was high, but it feels like shit so I can't help feeling like they put no effort in anyways, if that makes sense.

>>141190409
Every single one of those is terrible though. ESPECIALLY Bakuon!! and Haifuri. Terrible, terrible tastes.
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>>141190507
>Being this easily baited
Yeah, you're either underage or just stupid.
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>>141190507
>Terrible, terrible tastes

Post your top 25, then we'll see who's the faggot with no taste.
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>>141190507
You should really consider being part of a different anime website
Considering what a retard you seem to be, I recommend MAL or reddit
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>>141188405
Fuck off with your manime faggotry, not everything can pander to your ultra specific shitty taste.
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>>141190781
Nice samefag, you already said that before:
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If I had to guess what kind of anime someone with latent homosexuality in extreme denial about it would gravitate towards, it'd be manime.
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>>141190600
I'm not underage, I turned 18 last week nerd.

>>141190615
Fuck off pedophile

>>141190695
I haven't seed 25 shows yet.

>>141190767
Why? what do you like about those communities?

>>141190781
My taste is the best taste so you can fuck off kiddo

>>141190878
I'm not in denial about the fact that I love dicks moving in every hole of my body while I curse weebs for existing.
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OP, you have to understand that /a/ is full of people who actually spend their time watching anime about random haired high school girls, discuss their favourite seiyuuki or whatever who all sound the same, have yu gi oh threads while taking the children's card game meme seriously, are still faithful to DBS when it absolutely sucks, participate in loli threads and think waifu shit is good.

Understand that much of /a/ has horrible tastes much like Japan.

If you don't remember Heidi the Girl In The Mountains, then you're a newfag and don't know what good anime is like.
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>>141190977
>everyone who likes cute things is a pedophile
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>>141188405
>The definitive method to fixing anime
I think you should try if killing yourself fixes it first.
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>>141190977
>I haven't seed 25 shows yet.

Well then fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from.

Don't bother sticking out your nose until you've watched at least 500 shows.
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>>141188405
>how to ruin an industry: the post
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>>141188405
You're a fucktard m8
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>>141190977
>I'm not underage, I turned 18 last week
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>>141191053
>a newafg and doesnt know what good anime is
Was it not obvious due to is many shitty posts>>>>>141190977. OP fuck off with your supposed superior tastes, it disgusts me to know that someone like you was lurking this board while you were underage.
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>>141191053
>>141188405
>Any and all "Average Jap MC is reincarnated to fantasy world" works are hereby banned. This includes battle harems of all flavors as a prerequisite.
I don't think you know what prerequisite means.
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>>141190977
>my taste is the best taste
>not even seen 25 shows
Your autism is thoroughly entertaining.
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>>141190977
>pretending to be me

Damn dude, you've obviously been furiously samefagging my thread this whole time. Are you that triggered that I don't like your SOL shit?
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>>141188405
I don't give a shit about your post OP, but I came here to complain that the Punchline game Is 95% like the anime 7 hours in with shit gameplay and downgrade 3D models. Was Uchikoshi serious when making this? Why did they bother with game?
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>>141188405
>No more SOL shit, at all.
>No more "cute girls in scenario that cute girls don't belong"
>Shaft is dissolved
>No all female casts.
I think you just eliminated at least 95% of the anime I watch right there.
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>>141191053
Obviously /a/ has shit tastes, but that's not the point of the thread. The point is the actual anime being created in Japan every season, not how the autists of /a/ recieve it.
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>>141188405
Fuck off.
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>>141191197
Yeah. My point was that even though /a/ is full of newfags and bad tastes, there are still discussions about good anime and manga like Trigun, Berserk, Real etc.

And there are cute girl anime too like Heidi the Girl In The Mountains which are excellent.

>>141191249
See above
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>>141191414
After thinking, I'd give a pass to Monogatari and all associated properties. It's harem shit of the highest sort, but it's so self aware and well done that I can't even be mad at it for it.

>>141191459
>the fag who has been spamming manime continue to impersonate me because he's so mad about being called out on his shit tastes

Top tier autism.
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>>141191332
Kill yourself, stop pretending to be me.
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Slice of life is the best overall anime genre because 99% of anime plots are complete shit.
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>>141191517
(You) doesn't show up for OP.

>>141191522
Having no plot isn't better than a bad plot.
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>>141188405
So you've now banned Whisper of the Heart. How do you plan to make up for this?
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>>141191570
>Having no plot isn't better than a bad plot.
Having 12 decent episodic episode plots > having 1 shitty 12 episode long plot
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>>141191579
An HD Slayers remake.
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>>141191502
>I'd give a pass to Monogatari
Top tier shit taste
Top tier troll thread
Very well done
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>>141191675
That doesn't even close to cut it. That also seems counterproductive if you want original works.
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>>141188405
Just go watch yaoi and stop being a retard.
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>>141191673
Episodic is still stretching the "plot" in SOLs. I'd take a trainwreck over boring nothingness any days.

>>141191694
I don't like Monogatari, it's just different enough with enough effort put in that it would be hypocritical to ban it in this case.
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>>141191728
>I'd take a trainwreck over boring nothingness any days.
So, let's just get this straight: you'd rather watch Charlotte than ARIA?
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>>141188405
>No more "cute girls in scenario that cute girls don't belong" (i.e. Haifuri, GuP, Sora no Woto, Upotte, etc.) unless it's actual warfare, the girls are actually trained soldiers, and people, including cute girls, die horrible war deaths. If you don't want this then stop cramming cute girls into war scenarios you fucks.
Why do war scenarios have to be realistic? It's fucking fiction, does that concept make sense to you?
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>>141191719
It was a joke. I couldn't predict what great ideas have been kicking around creators heads, but will never see the light of day due to the practical need to keep the money flowing with otaku pandering and SOL shows.
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>>141188405
>No all female casts
No Raildex
>Average Jap MC is reincarnated to fantasy world
No KonoSuba
>UNLESS they have a reason to be such lame sad sacks, such as Shinji from NGE.
Talking about how to fix industry and including The Most overrated shit ever
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>>141191776
>It was a joke. I couldn't predict what great ideas have been kicking around creators heads, but will never see the light of day due to the practical need to keep the money flowing with otaku pandering and SOL shows.
99% of the ideas that never get made are probably terrible, honestly.
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>>141191768
Can I pick something other than Charlotte?

>>141191772
They don't have to be realistic. They SHOULD have fucking lasers and giant tanks and aliens and shit. That's the kind of fantasy a war show needs, not cute girls doing cute things in high school, except there are boats this time.

>>141191784
NGE is indeed overrated shit, but Shinji had a reason for being a faggot. That was my point here, and had no bearing over the quality of the show he was in.

>>141191837
Agreed, but 99% of the ideas that are made currently are terrible, so at the worst nothing would change, right?
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>>141191353
I mean the whole plot boiled down to just two "le epic twists," I wouldn't expect much of the guy
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>>141191768
Fuck off, Charlotte isn't a trainwreck it's just bad.
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>>141191950
>They don't have to be realistic. They SHOULD have fucking lasers and giant tanks and aliens and shit. That's the kind of fantasy a war show needs, not cute girls doing cute things in high school, except there are boats this time.
But why? Why does it need that stuff? Because you slapped the label "war show" on it and that determines what it's allowed to be like?

>>141191950
>Agreed, but 99% of the ideas that are made currently are terrible, so at the worst nothing would change, right?
No, most of them are pretty okay, and a number are great.
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>>141192021
>But why? Why does it need that stuff? Because you slapped the label "war show" on it and that determines what it's allowed to be like?

If it's a war show without war, then it's not a war show. It's seriously that simple, and people calling shit like GuP and Haifuri sufficient for /k/ pandering are high. Nothing wrong with cute girls doing cute things, but when they fuck up whole genres then they need to be reigned in, if not removed entirely.

>No, most of them are pretty okay

New method to fixing anime: All people that agree with you should be put in labor camps without TVs or internet.
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>>141192146
>If it's a war show without war, then it's not a war show
Okay, then stop calling it one. Issue solved.
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>>141191776
>otaku pandering

Pop quiz, define Otaku Pandering without sounding like a cock sucker
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>>141192146
/k/ is not war, anon, it's weapons. You don't need to have fatal drama to pander to plane or gun otaku.

Also, why is pandering to military otaku good but pandering to moe otaku is apparently creatively bankrupt?
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>>141190977
>thread is a moefag baiting other moefags

This is worse than that anti-purity fag making those "female Seiyuu isn't a virgin" threads to start a shitstorm between purityfags and manimefags.
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>>141192296
How the fuck can he get away with that, anyway? What type of idiots is Hiro picking for new mods?
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>>141192203
Shows meant to pander to otaku.

>>141192296
We already established here >>141191517 that that guy is just pretending to be me, the OP, because I triggered him.
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>>141191950
Why are Shinji's descendants that aren't Takato headache inducing
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>>141190260
>I'm perfectly fine re-watching anime with the same plots, scenarios, art styles, and characters, as long as they are re-skinned enough that I wouldn't be able to notice

Sorry OP. As much as I agree, you are in the wrong area to be debating about this. No one will take you seriously enough because, well, they enjoy eating shit. Your ideals can be easily applied to the gaming industry as well.

Sorry.
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>>141192008
Charlotte is the very definition of plot trainwreck, and its last episode was perhaps the most trainwrecky last episode I've ever seen.
>I can't go back in time because that would be wrong, but I could still heal my own eye and just not time travel, but fuck that, depth perception is overrated, and there's no reason to explain why I wouldn't heal my own eye
>suddenly HELICOPTER OUT OF NOWHERE TO THE RESCUE
There are very few anime with a plot as plot holey and convoluted as Charlotte.
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>>141192333
The mods aren't as stupid as you all to fall for an obvious false flagger throwing a tantrum over my thread.

>>141192361
I remember reading this scientific philosophy paper claiming that infinite cloning was impossible, because each cloning of a clone would degrade the original DNA until further cloning was either a failure or too far removed from the original organism to be of use.

I think the same applies to Shinji.
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>>141192339
>pander to otaku
That doesn't answer my question retard.

What do you consider Otaku Pandering anime and why?
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>>141192405
>The mods aren't as stupid as you all to fall for an obvious false flagger throwing a tantrum over my thread.
Get some fucking reading comprehension, retard. I was talking about the guy spamming ">seiyuu isn't a virgin" threads every few days.
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>>141188405
>Any and all "Average Jap MC is reincarnated to fantasy world" works are hereby banned. This includes battle harems of all flavors as a prerequisite.
How bout you fuck off
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>>141192394
Well there have been a couple of people to agree with at least the spirit of my thread, so it's something.
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>>141192394
If you don't notice, why would you care? How would you even be able to care if you didn't notice? This doesn't make sense.
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>>141192416
You just said to define it, not to give detailed examples. Why the insults?

>>141192432
Oh shit, my bad.

>>141192435
Just because you like it doesn't mean it's not shit.
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>>141192361
They don't understand that Shinji isn't actually a weak-willed limp wristed faggot, he's just under unreasonable circumstances.
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>>141192501
>>141192361
>every timid protagonist is inspired by Shinji
No.
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>>141188405
What makes you think anime needs "fixing" you piece of trash?
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>>141192491
Care to answer the question instead of trying to avoid it?

What is Otaku Pandering?
Why is it bad?
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>>141192566
DBS.
Desu note.
Haruhi.
One piss.
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>>141190977
>I haven't seed 25 shows yet.

You have an opinion worth nothing regarding anime. Go to literally any website but here.

>Why? what do you like about those [any other website]?
What I like is that you won't be here - Any other website is suited to your needs but leave here and don't come back. Other communities are more in tune with your tastes and shows seen.
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>>141192548
Shinji is the face of scared fuccboi MCs.

What can inspire the timid MC (but misused) other than him?
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>>141188405

shut the fuck up
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>>141192577
You keep moving the goal posts. You asked me to define it, and when I did you called me a retard. Now you're asking me to provide detailed examples, but why? So you can move the goal post again and use more insults to ignore my whole comment?

>>141192566
Look at the catalog for a week and you'll have your answer.

>>141192608
>people are still falling for the obvious falseflag despite the guy openly showing he was memeing
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>>141192656
The one that Shinji was inspired by.
More recent characters of that style are almost certainly inspired by Shinji though.
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>>141192701
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
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>>141192394
This.
Maybe another time OP.
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We can all agree on this.
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>>141192740
I'm pretty sure most of them are just made because it's a known archetype now. I highly doubt people are actually designing characters after Shinji specifically most of the time.
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>>141192777
And this.
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>>141192777
It isn't often I agree with an AOTS chart this wholeheartedly.
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>>141192821
This, too.
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>>141192748
Read the thread moron, he posts an obvious fake picture "proof" that isn't possible, yet everybody is too stupid to realize that and keeps treating his memeing like it's me. It's clearly the manime spouting faggot raging because he was triggered.
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>>141192890
>I haven't used 4chanX
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>>141192959
It's obviously him sperging out as hard as he can to derail the thread. Normally it would be funny, but sadly everybody fell for it.
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I literally can't tell who in this thread is being serious, is /a/ just one huge board of bored trolling faggots?
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>>141193031
>is 4chan just one huge website of bored trolling faggots?
It always has been, fucking newfag.
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>>141193031
>is /a/ just one huge board of bored trolling faggots?

All of them are bored faggots, but not all of them are trolling. Half the fun is figuring out who is trolling and who is serious, and which makes you angrier.
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>>141188405
im 10 and what is this.
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>>141193135
The other half is realizing that you just lost the game
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>>141193071
>the top 8 results for the Google search "asshole of the internet" (with quotes) are referring to 4chan as the asshole of the internet.
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>>141193262
>"but I poop from there!"
>not right now you don't
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>>141193262
Those are all probably quotes by people who think all of 4chan is 2005 /b/, though. Like, no one says we're the asshole of the internet just because we're autistic about cartoons, they say it it because they think we're all evil hackers spreading child pornography and stealing credit cards.
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>>141193446
>I disagree so it must be bait
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>>141193407
Well, there's /pol/ too, and they're fairly present here on /a/. Just saying.
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>>141193565
I don't think most people who know 4chan is a thing know or care about smaller boards like /a/. They probably think of /pol/ or /b/ or porn.
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>>141188405
Make America Great Again guys.
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>>141193633
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>>141188405
Japan gives no fucks about your opinion.
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>>141193814
And that's why anime will keep stagnating.
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>>141194093
For you
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>>141194110
You're a big guy.
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>>141194594
Trump will make anime real, and pick Ron Paul as his VP.
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>>141188405
I know someone just like you and screenshoted the post to her. Stupid bitch refuse to ever visit 4chan, but she is curious on some of that shit so I'll just copy/paste what she said here.

>Wow... so I'm not the only one that think modern anime is shit?
>You go to that site, right? Ask that fucker what's all the anime he watch. Like a list or something.
>Because maybe if he list some anime that I might like, I might be able to get into anime again? Already told you it's been literally over 10 years since I watch any of that shit.
>Yeah like 2005 or 2006. I forgot. Just fucking ask him.
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>>141195336
Not sure if pasta or not.
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>>141188405
>no more everything that separates anime from everything else
I know this is bait, but why don't people like this just watch movies, read books or just generally do something else instead of trying (and failing) to force their shit into other hobbies?
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>>141188405
You know what's the best thing about anime? The opinions of faggots like you will never be relevant. You can kick and scream as much as you want, but but Japan will never give a single fuck about what you think, and they absolutely never will.
Keep crying about how the industry is dying or whatever for how long you wish, but the fact is that the people who make this kind of entertainment, for the target public they have in mind, don't even acknowledge you as a human.
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>>141195688
I do watch movies and read books, but there's no question that anime as a whole is irredeemable shit. I love animation, hence why I want it to be less shit.

>>141195694
>tfw a new revolution of simulcasting cooperation between American and Japanese studios is on the horizon
>tfw you are completely wrong about my opinions and those like me not mattering
>tfw you SOL and idol shit will die a slow, unmourned death as a result

Feels good.
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>>141195800
>he really thinks Trigger liking the west will change anything in anime
If you're so intellectual and mature then why are you watching cartoons?
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>>141188405
That's pretty gay OP
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>>141195688
Because what they really want is to act like their tastes are superior and sophisticated, and anime is pretty much the only medium where people will take you even remotely seriously if you try to act like you're refined and above the plebeian masses because you want more medieval fantasy and action flicks.
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>>141188405
>everything must cater to me, that's how to fix anime
No, you piece of shit.
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HOLY MOLY

Is this the dubs thread? I hope I get a piece of some dubs pie!
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>>141188405
/a/ is truly dead, this man keeps on posting while mods doing nothing

8chshit is the only home now
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As expected of the weekend.
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>No more "cute girls in scenario that cute girls don't belong" (i.e. Haifuri, GuP, Sora no Woto, Upotte, etc.) unless it's actual warfare, the girls are actually trained soldiers, and people, including cute girls, die horrible war deaths.

>Implying Sora no Woto doesn't have actual warfare, actually trained soldiers, or people dying horrible war deaths
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>it's another "muh no more moe anime" made by a faggot who doesn't understand anything about the japanese market nor why anime are this way
Might as well get dubs.
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