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http://animefanatika.co.za/2016/05/06/dragonball-evolution-apologizes/

>Dragonball: Evolution screenwriter apologizes

>“I knew that it would eventually come down to this one day. Dragonball: Evolution marked a very painful creative point in my life. To have something with my name on it as the writer be so globally reviled is gut wrenching. To receive hate mail from all over the world is heartbreaking. I spent so many years trying to deflect the blame, but at the end of the day it all comes down to the written word on page and I take full responsibility for what was such a disappointment to so many fans. I did the best I could, but at the end of the day, I ‘dropped the dragon ball.’

>I went into the project chasing after a big payday, not as a fan of the franchise but as a businessman taking on an assignment. I have learned that when you go into a creative endeavor without passion you come out with sub-optimal results, and sometimes flat out garbage. So I’m not blaming anyone for Dragon Ball but myself. As a fanboy of other series, I know what it’s like to have something you love and anticipate be so disappointing.

>To all the Dragon Ball fans out there, I sincerely apologize. I hope I can make it up to you by creating something really cool and entertaining that you will like and that is also something I am passionate about. That’s the only work I do now.”
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>>141184945
nobody cares

not /anime/ related, fuck off

also
>3dpd
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>>141184945
Well he has the balls to take responsibility.
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He didn't need to apologize. He might have written the script, but it was a group of executives who approved and financed it.
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>>141185018
Yeah 6 years later, also >>141185107
But anyways we all know what happens to every hollywood adaptation.
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>>141185018
Maybe because his works dried up. Did the movie flop or did everyone go and watch it?
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>>141184945
Who cares, he shouldn't apology, there are worse movies and no one gave a fuck.
DBZ fanbase is atrocious.
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Great. Now make Toei and Toriyama apologize for super.
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>>>/tv/
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>>141184945
Shame on him, he should sell out the director and producers instead.
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>>141184945
This is more half assed than Mel Gibson's apology to the Jews
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>>141185018
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>>141185007
read the rules before posting
The discussion of "live action" television shows is permitted so long as they are distinctly rooted in, or based off of an anime or manga series.
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>>141184945
I bet he isn´t even sorry at all. Movie almost earned double the budget.
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>>141184945
Who even cares anymore? The guy can fuck off
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>>141185374
>>141185439
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The movie was ok.
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>>141185442
A quick search says he's barely done anything movie related and absolutely nothing of note since then, so it probably fucked what almost non-existent credibility he had as a writer or actor.
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>>141184945
Fuck this cunt. I hope he always gets shit on by the fans. he should be sucking some dick for forgiveness.
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>>141185692
why the fuck are you thinking about him sucking dick
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>>141184945
Who even cares at this point. Anyhow, if the screenplay was shit, anyone from the producer to the director should have changed it
.

I wonder how anyone saw the finished product and said "This is good enough"
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>>141184945
forgiveness is earned not given. don't apologize unless you're actually doing something to right your wrongs
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>>141185442
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>>141186043
I imagine its hard to turn a pile of shit into a marble sculpture.
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>>141186043
>anyone from the producer to the director should have changed it
Stephen Chow though it would just be easier to back out. He now made the biggest movie of all time in china this year.
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>>141185018
Please, it's obviously a bait.
>make everyone think he's sorry
>announce new project promising he won't screw up this time please give him a chance etc
>idiots fall for it and give him money again
>it's shit again
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>>141186506
>.za

What nation even has that? Zaire?
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>>141186043
>take an established title be it from novels, games or other foreign media or whatever
>buy the rights to said titled
>read the brief synopsis to that title you just bought
>scavenge through the Hollywood basement for abandoned scripts that vaguely matches the title you just bought
>adapt said script and slap the title to it
>get marketing to drum up interest because look it's got the name of that work you know of or like
Welcome to Hollywood Production 101, you have now learned how to be a Hollywood movie exec
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>>141185442
The production budget. Pretty sure marketing doesn't get calculated in there.
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>>141185404
Yeah but then being labeled as anti jew for making TPOTC was pretty hilarious, fucking jews.
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>>141185439
Nice discussion about the horrible adaptation of the most popular anime in tacoland that was 6 years ago. Also no fucking body is talking about the movie.
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>>141186261
>hating on DBE now is a 9gag tier meme at this point

The fuck does this even mean?
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>>141186893
>bwaaa s-stop posting things I don't like...! ;_;
fuck off
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>>141186832
I think he got that label for all the anti-semitic shit he said when he got pulled over for disorderly conduct.
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>>141186621
>scavenge through the Hollywood basement for abandoned scripts that vaguely matches the title you just bought
This nigga knows whats up.
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>>141186941
I though that was after. Gotta check that.
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>>141186929
Nice discussion on this dead thread though.
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Honestly the movie wasn't even that bad. First of all DB is and was shounen shit all along, there wasn't much to ruin here. Secondly it was a cheap murrican production, what the fuck did people expect?

I watched it when it got out with no expectations at all and I wasn't hating it. I don't imagine that these transformer movies or all the other bullshit is much better.
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>>141187175
>Honestly the movie wasn't even that bad.
Oh look, the scriptwriter is here.
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>>141187175
Sure, if you have barely watched any movies. And I don't even mean the patrician bullshit /tv/ likes to peddle. There are easily hundred plus action movies out there that are better, and action movies aren't even usually considered top tier in terms of acting or story.

You want action movies with some vaguely eastern influences, you're better off watching something like The Forbidden Kingdom or Man with the Iron Fist.
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>>141187175
I'd imagine the movie is fine if you go into it expecting a pile of shit and just want to have a stupid time and make fun of it or something.

Sorta like the Super Mario Bros. movie.

I never watched DB:Evo tho. Maybe if I'm really bored someday and it's on Netflix or something I might check it out.
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>>141184945

When he says stuff like this he harms the image of a product he doesn't own. This is unethical and he should get sued. Even if it's true hes ethically and contractually bound to say it's the best thing ever, he doesn't get to express a bad opinion about it. I hope this retard gets sued and learns some professional integrity in jail.
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>>141187597
It's honestly just painfully boring and nonsensically unrelated to DB in almost every way more than it is brutally bad.
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>>141187597
>I never watched DB:Evo tho. Maybe if I'm really bored someday and it's on Netflix or something I might check it out.
I was so horrified at what I was watching when DBE was cam-ripped on youtube that I actually closed after ten minutes to save bandwidth. The film was so bad that it was wasting my internet and they would have to pay me to watch it.
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I don't know what's more faggoty. The script writer crying like a bitch, or the niggers in this thread defending him.
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>>141185358
Toriyama actually already did.
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>>141187950
Nobody actually watched the movie, that's why is so easy to defend that nameless script writer.
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>>141184945
WAAAAAAAAYYYYY
Too late
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>>141187717
>contractually bound to say it's the best thing ever
Prove it.
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>>141186099
Realize all that money came from idiots that thought it would actually be good. Just like that Chun-li movie release at that same time. The beginning of cashing in on nerd culture.

BAZINGA!
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>>141184945
Maybe he should get good at writing.
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>>141186893
>expecting quality anime discussion on /a/
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>>141184945
You're late but whatever at least he acknowledged his mistakes

But did Shyamalan said something about The Last Airbender?
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>I actually took my little brother with me to a theater to see this movie
>he started crying half way though
At least this movie contributed to me and my brother getting closer then ever before, unified by common hate
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>>141188752
Pretty sure he still stands by that shitpile, and is pushing for a sequel.
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>>141184945
>I ‘dropped the dragon ball.’
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>>141187002
Movie was definitely after.
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I just wonder why you'd adapt the part that most audiences aren't familiar with.

I mean, if this were a Japanese live action film, it would make sense to adapt Dragon Ball. But Dragon Ball was adapted after Dragon Ball Z.
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>>141189311
I meant localized, not adapted. It took until 2001 to actually get a full dub of that part, while Z got localized in 1995.
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A studio got hold of an IP with some value and decided to try and make a movie out of it for cheap so they could turn it around for a quick payday. This happens all the time in Hollywood. It was obvious to anyone who saw a clip of the movie that this is what it would be.
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>>141187717
It's only during promotion a studio would get upset with someone in production saying something like this. No one cares now.
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Evolution is better than Super anyway.
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>>141184945
>I hope I can make it up to you by creating something really cool and entertaining that you will like
Oh no...
Does that mean what I think it means.
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>>141186555
south africa
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It's hard to make something great when the source material is shit.
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>>141184945

>I dropped the dragon ball.
>I dropped the dragon ball.
>I dropped the dragon ball.
>I dropped the dragon ball.
>I dropped the dragon ball.
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Something is bugging me

Legend of Korra has a female MC, and no one wanna make a live action movie out of it to pander to the feminist/SJWs market?
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>>141190901
The series ending had progressive shit already, and wasn't that well recieved.
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>>141190901
>>141191075

Also the airbender movie bombed hard so less incentive to do another movie.
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>>141187597
The Super Mario Bros movie goes completely off the rails and is insane, making it a very fun watch. Dragonball Evolution deviates from the source material in favor of being generic, which just makes it really boring and uninteresting to watch.
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>>141190901
>Starring Jennifer Lawrence
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>>141190901
M. Night Shamallama poisoned the Last Airbender's potential as a live action movie series. And Nickelodeon tried to kill Korra themselves by pulling it from the air and turning it into a webseries halfway through a season. And then they cut the final season's budget, but still expected the full amount of episodes to be delivered.

The series only has a future as comics being released once every 4 months.
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>>141186957
I didn't watch this but did it have anything to do with the pseudo-kaiju movie?
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GiTS screenwriter should read this and prepare.
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Basically Abrams got handed a script that was thematically similar to Cloverfield, and decided to attach that branding to it. But the story is completely unconnected to Cloverfield.
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>>141191504
It's a prequel.
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>>141191861
Is it interesting?
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>>141191504
no. its literally a script of a movie that was written I think even before cloverfield and they slapped a vague reference to make it not suck so much.
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>>141191861
>>141191504
>Trachtenberg stated that 10 Cloverfield Lane does not take place in the same fictional universe as Cloverfield.[39][40] Winstead and Gallagher mentioned that during production they were aware that the movie had thematic similarities to Cloverfield, but did not learn that there would be an official connection until they were informed of the chosen title, only a few days before the release of the trailer.[41] Abrams came up with the title after finishing Star Wars: The Force Awakens.[42][43]
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>>141191494
>mfw watching that webm
This is insane, I'm glad I didn't watch it
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>>141184945
>I ‘dropped the dragon ball.’
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>>141191494
Korra is garbage anyway. Night should have never signed that contract for like 4 seasons after that first season did so well.
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>>141184945

My interpretation of his apologies is:

>I'm sorry that I messed up. But I'm actually a competent writer. Please consider in hiring me for another big project and next time I will do more research so I wont messed up. And we all know this is not solely my fault
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>>141191934
Goddamn that is some horrid shit
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>>141184945
>I ‘dropped the dragon ball.’
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>>141184945
>I ‘dropped the dragon ball.’
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>>141191494
>this was supposed to be a prison riot/breakout
>there are people just standing around doing fuck all

I've just now noticed this and it's making me even more mad.
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>>141185358
>Apologize for a great series that's exactly what the fans wanted
Why would they do that?

And before you pretend the fans don't like it, retarded mexicans aren't the real fans.
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>>141190076
kek
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>>141191934
>Abrams
Him again.

Fucking Hollywood is like the bizarro verse; the worse you are at your job, the better you succeed.
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>>141191494
>That fucking QUALITY
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>>141191494
LIKE SEVEN GUYS MANAGED TO PICK UP ONE ROCK
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>>141186893
Then perhaps you should report the people not talking about the movie, such as yourself.
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>>141188723
If you want truly quality discussion you should go to /v/.
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>>141186957
That movie had no right to be anywhere near as good as it was.
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>>141192527
All the discussion about the movie that this thread spawned is that it as shit and a couple on anons saying it wasn't that bad.
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>>141192513
Hey, I'd like to see you pick up a rock without touching it, even with EIGHT guys.
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>>141192708
Yes, sometimes discussion is lackluster. Are you unaware of how human conversations work? For someone so concerned with the quality of discussion your posts certainly haven't raised the bar for everyone else. Perhaps you should consider how you could make posts with potential for positive and engaging discussion, rather than impotently demanding that others cease discussion.
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>>141192710
Then they'd be better off just picking up rocks with their bare hands.
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>>141191494
Oh luckily I haven't watch that movie
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>>141192807
Thing is, this thread never had any potential except maybe for arguing if this thread was worth it or not and shitting on the movie.
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>>141186782
It does
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>>141192708
I thought we're talking about people supplying shit quality products to the demand and profiting from it?
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>>141191494
why didn't they just throw rocks, with their hands?
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>>141193549
They had to be reminded that they were eathbenders, and that the "prison" they were in was made of dirt and rock.
They are not smart people.
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>>141192532
the funny thing about this post is that its actually true

there is no real discussion of anything on this board, people just regurgitate the same meme phrases in literally every thread ad naseam
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>>141193751
/a/ has its problems, but it sure as hell isn't as bad as /v/.
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>>141192044
/co/ get out
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>>141186099
faggot nerds deserve to pay for shit, for being so fucking dumb.
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>>141191494
it feels so good, to never watch live action shit.
my fucking sides reached space.
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>>141184945
God fucking damn. American media is the absolute worst in the world. This entire thread proves it. Not just this post but pretty much every post discussing American directors/movies is just absolutely disgusting. They can't make good animation or video games either. Why? How? What went wrong?
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>>141191494
>All this faggotry just to lift one tiny piece of rock
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>>141194088
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>>141193855
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>>141194168
He's right though.
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>>141194216
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>>141191494
Heard this movie had a totally mismanaged budget along with a cast that reeks of producer nepotism. Basically, nobody in the crew cared and M. Night Shyamalan's ego is fucking huge.
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>>141194168
What about my post was bait? It is my honest opinion consistently backed up by how awful America is at movies/tv/animation/video games/comics.

Of course, America used to be great at these things, but that was a long time ago.

Nowadays America is more concerned with making bathrooms based on subjective, completely arbitrary and bullshit "gender" instead of actual objective BIOLOGICAL SEX to produce anything of worth.
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>>141194243
Looks like someone is in denial
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>>141194317
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>>141191494
That guy in the front is so into it.
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>>141194341
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>>141184945
>there are people who actually get hyped for live action movies
Why? 99% of the time they're worse than the source material. Not defending the screenwriter but anyone who was expecting something good deserved the disappointment
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>>141194317
I'm pretty sure the bathroom discussion didn't lead to a writer's strike in hollywood or anything like that

How is that even related
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>>141194465
Because advertising.
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>>141194465
>>there are people who actually get hyped for live action movies
Even worse, there are people who actually get hyped for live action movies adapted from anime
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>>141194465
Movies adapted from novels tend to be decent most of the time, but I can't understand why anyone would pay money for an adaptation of a video game or anime.
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>>141194139
>>141192513
What's funny is that rock is supposed to be being moved solely by the guy that comes into frame at the end. The group of 6 guys brought up a rock wall that was in the previous shot, they're just continuing to dance without doing anything for no reason. The cinematography and choreography are really fucking bad in this movie, along with the writing and directing.

Early on in production M. Night fired the martial arts consultant who worked on the cartoon, and just had everyone do dance moves and naruto handsigns instead of doing actual techniques that match the movement of the bending. He also opted to remove all the Hanzi that the show used, and replaced them with made up squiggly lines.
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>>141194704
I like to think M. Night just stopped caring like a week into production and then during post, he remembered that he had pride and tried to pathetically bolster that up.
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>>141194828
From what I've read in a few interviews he was legit into it and Avatar in general, he's just a very very stupid and untalented man. Last I heard he actually still wants to make a sequel.
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>>141194168
>bleach bait

Which reminds me, where the fuck is the bleach live action movie?
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>>141194538
I just hate liberals, OKAY!?
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>>141194943
there was one ?
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>>141194693
The problem is that the adaptations of video games and anime are often half assed and most of the time both mediums don't translate to live action really well.

I mean, how do you even make something like Dragon ball, Dark Souls, Fate or hell even more grounded things work or in a live action form?I can't think of any way that it wouldn't end up being ridiculous. And honestly, even works that do have potential to be adapted into live action, such as Ghost in the Shell and Kaiji, would end up being garbage because directors would do a shit job adapting it.
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>>141194934
I think that's the ego and pride speaking, considering that it's said that he only like watched a few episodes and that's it, which is better than the producers and some of the cast not watching it at all.
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>>141195021
I think part of it also has to do with status. Novels/books are still considered "respectable", whereas directors/producers see Dragonball as"just a cartoon", and assume the fans are idiot manchildren with low standards.

Of course, they do have to make it appeal to a wider audience in order to make a profit, but that doesn't mean it has to be shit either.
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>>141195021
On a case by case basis, some of them can work. DBZ could adapt the Saiyan arc and it wouldn't be far off from modern superhero movies (this could apply to a lot of shounen works). Something like Fate would just be too surreal for live action, plus the crazy amount of time to set the rules. Then you have shit like Metroid which is so tied in it's medium doing a good adaptation is completely impossible.
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>>141195175
>directors/producers see Dragonball as"just a cartoon", and assume the fans are idiot manchildren with low standards.
Well I mean, they aren't wrong.
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>>141194376
Best actor in the entire movie.
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>>141186062
>forgiveness is earned not given
wut? that's respect you dumbfuck
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>>141195634
it's both you fuckface
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>>141184945
>I ‘dropped the dragon ball
More like the dragon balls were dropped
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>>141194934
he's a complete retard
>the kid who played Aang was pretty much Aang in real life
>Night told him to stop being like Aang and act like a piece of wood instead
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>>141191494
Any more webms of stuff like this within the movie, my fucking sides.
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>>141195762
even if they earn it you accept the apologies, the one giving them is the other person.
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>>141186957
I've seen one trailer for this and it looks really good.
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>>141196701
He said forgiveness, not apology dummy.
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>>141184945
honestly, it's rare to hear such an apology. He isn't beating around the bush "I'm sorry you misunderstood me" or just saying sorry "People don't like DB:E, i am sorry for that" but actually admitting that he wrote garbage, with a reason that actually makes sense.

Since i don't give a damn about who writes or directs a movie(because there are way way way too many factors that influence the quality of a movie) i couldn't care less what his next projects are going to be, but it's still nice to hear someone take responsibility.
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>>141195006
There was one planned.

What would it even be like?
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>>141197596
R.I.P.D - except with more katanas instead of guns.
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>>141197632
>Ichigo becomes an American high school soccer superstar, while crushing on the hot cheerleader Orihime.
>Rukia becomes a magic ghost archer for no reason because you can't have BOTH main characters use magic swords and forces Ichigo to help her after he dies in a tragic accident
>the Gotei 13 are just 13 evil spirits who were sealed away ages ago and have to be defeated
>Orihime dies for her sins, but is brought back to life after Rukia sacrifices herself after the final battle
We should have threads where anons write "plots" for life action adaptions.
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>>141198029
Kurosaki Ichigo becomes Kenneth Strombry
Inoue Orihime becomes Elizabeth Heimdel
Rukia is now known as Ruth
Chad is still Mexican but he's now the bumbling comedy sidekick.
Urahara Kisuke will be played by someone doing an impersonation of Robert Downey Jr because RDJ is out of their budget. He'll also likely be Mexican or a black dude. Basically, his shop's going to be the shady underground store that Hollywood action movies are obliged to have.

>the Gotei 13 are just 13 evil spirits
No, no, they can't introduce the Gotei so soon, need to reserve it for the post credits stinger to hint of a sequel. Knowing Hollywood, they'll probably also merge the arcs, first half will be the intro and rivalry of Ishida Uryuu, or Ivo Ragendrachen. 2nd half will be them teaming up to fight some Menos Grande or proto-Arrancar (which the sequel will reveal that it escaped from Aizen's lab).
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>>141198457
>Chad is played by Jack Black.
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>>141198457
>featuring a dubstep remix of Number One.
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>>141196706
I actually just watched it earlier tonight and I liked it allot.
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>>141184945
NO MORE
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>>141192710
>Hey, I'd like to see you pick up a rock without touching it, even with EIGHT guys.
I just need one guy to pick it up form me so I don't touch it.
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>>141198029
>American high school
>soccer superstar
Uh?
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>>141199894
It'll be set in a primarily hispanic town to justify the Mexican Arrancar for the sequel

Also Orihime gets a racelift to that to accomadate diversity
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>>141184945
>Im a fat jew fuck
>B-but not anymore
>im also a fucking nigger
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Why did he feel the need to apologize? What are the benefits of him apologizing to a bunch of people who don't give a shit about what he thinks or does? Also, he basically blew up his chances of being trusted for a big project ever again, so if he's trying to gain some trust back, it will only backfire horrendously.
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>>141200084
>random purple wig
What's with the bondage guy?
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What happens if you gather 8 dragon balls?
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>>141200103
>Why do people apologize?
I don't know, you tell me. Technically we could live without it and yet most of us feel the need to do so from time to time.
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>>141193751
>there is no real discussion of anything on this board, people just regurgitate the same meme phrases in literally every thread ad naseam
That is literally /v/.
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>>141200103
>>141200635

An apology is an attempt to either pour water on a burning social bridge or repair one that's already burned down, so that cordial relations can either be maintained or restored.

He's probably hoping to repair his career and/or to get people to stop thinking of him as some kind of soulless corporate tool. Unfortunately, an effective apology requires some reparations to be offered, and considering that his career is fucked...
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>>141194168
Fishposting is worse than the people you use it against. Kill yourself.
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>>141191494
>>141184945
I saw these movies opening night for free. It was the only way they could be enjoyable.

Sadly I paid for that Chun-li abortion.
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>>141186027
lmao
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>>141184945
>I did the best I could, but at the end of the day, I ‘dropped the dragon ball.’
He doesn't feel sorry, in fact he's laughing at them
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>>141186099

>Dumb fuck doesn't even know that the studio only gets half of the money from ticket sales, even less from the international sales
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>>141191494

>6 earth benders are needed to throw a small rock

Why didn't the simply threw it with their hands?
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>>141191494
they are imprisoned on the fucking ground where there is ground everywhere which is their element unlike in the cartoon where they were imprisoned on a boat in the middle of the sea where they couldn't do anything
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>>141185166
>6 years later,

hahaha 6 years ago? ... you must be joking anon, it maybe...3..4 years ago...

fuck..
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>>141204132
I thought it was more than 6 years honestly. Buried and forgot about it.
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>>141184945
Listen to this douche
>mweeh I'm a buisness man
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>>141200084
that man jaw
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>>141184945
Meh it's thanks to this movie being so shitty, that
Toriyama came back to rewrite BoG, write RoF and DBS. So at least something good came from this imo and it's not like any DB fan was expecting this to be good anyway.
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JUST ..
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>>141184945
>implying anyone expected this to be good
Even fucking normies could tell it would be shit
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