>windermerian 30 years Lifespan.
Freyja confirmed to be an old hag
Waiting for subs
https://marumaru.in/b/origin/139087
Does Freyja's fiancee have a name in this manga?
>implying non-Earth ages matter
Red is still the OLD HAG
>mfw gg lives again
it's SHOW TIME
Every episode has just been better than the last
the art is great in this one. Is it the original character designer who drew it?
>>140642115
>still showing Rankashit
Are they close enough in age that they'll become friends if she gets captured? It's impossible to tell how tall Heinz is because he's just a girlish face on top of a mound of fabric.
>>140641739
Yes, Second Son-kun,
>>140642296
how is the top a dude?
> Freyja now the older girl and de facto winner of the Hayatebowl
Well played Kawamori.
>>140642328
Two diamond runes.
>>140642328
not for long
>>140642115
DRAG QUEEN
R
A
G
>>140642378
>de facto winner
>implying
>>140642328
Because his name is Heinz.
Why does Messer just teamkill humans? He didn't kill the Zent in a Reguld in episode 1, but nukes VF pilots without a second thought.
>>140642457
Why is his hairpenis so big?
>no Heinz and Keith cute brothers doing cute things art because Nips only draw Freyjas and Mikumos
>>140641613
>implying the POWER of LOVE won't extend her life span
>>140642457
>>140642394
i actually feel weird when i'm looking at this.
>>140642591
Maybe in Keith's manga.
>>140642481
The Zent was a victim of a biological attack; Hayate needs to be taught a lesson. Messer is a discerning killer.
>>140642591
And Bogues.
>>140642481
I don't think there's any easy way to disable VFs compared to Regults when you can just shoot off their legs
>>140642720
>those tiny hands with those big rings
Thanks Kawamori.
>>140642429
Rankafag spotted.....Killyourself faggot.
>Reina
>>140642720
>>140642296
Now that I look at it, the way Freyja's hands are drawn versus the way Heinz's hands are drawn means she's probably a few years older than him. Heinz has pre-teen hands.
The proto-Walkure outfits look nice
top tier transformation
>>140642481
He actually does kill one var in episode 1
ANIMA SPIRITIAAAAAA
>>140642890
His hands are closer to Chuck's sister's hands. Maybe they can be friends.
Oh wow, I couldn't hear it right but she really does say something like "if you mess up, you're fired" here
>>140642973
wrong one
Why is Messer so based?
>>140642296
He'll try to marry her before he dies so he can have super powerful babies.
>>140642115
>mfw this is probably the only chance to get a cameo from someone in a previous series because it would be super justified since all of them can put out major fold waves
So I'm a little confused at the end of the episode, what exactly happened? I was able to make out that the Aerial Knights attack was a distraction but for what exactly? I think they occupied another planet?
I dunno but I don't feel like Macross Delta needs as much drama as F. I'm enjoying it as it is without people dying.
>>140642994
The lyrics fits so well.
>>140643109
Huh, don't remember getting that kind of "do or die" atmosphere during the livewatch. Maybe Mikumo just did that to put the pressure on Freyja, thinking that would fire her up.
Since Freya fell down, does that make her Miss Macross by default?
>>140641613
Old hag on her planet but she's still just a 14 year old girl.
>>140643666
Yeah. I don't think Mikumo is doing it to demoralize her per se since Freyja's fold waves seems to manifest under duress.
>>140643626
Maybe it'll be like 7 and only a few people will die.
Nah, honestly, I can see this going full drama very quickly especially with the "Freyja is also a Windermerean" thing but I could be proven wrong
>>140643672
Every idol falls down and has a bad debut. Even Sheryl.
>>140641883
Feels good. Must be the same feeling as Romans must have felt when living during the reign of Justinian.
>>140643862
I see you've missed the reference.
Do I need to see other series in the Macross franchise in order to watch and enjoy this one?
>>140644033
No, it has some references to old series but it's independant
Mikumo seems like a huge bitch.
>>140643978
They are all heirs of Minmay's baton.
>>140644085
She's just a very harsh mentor. Also very likely grooming Freyja for the future or some shit like that
Nobody brought up the new Pinpoint Barriers?
DECULTURE
>>140644084
Thanks fampai
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE
FUCKING GG
>>140644085
Because she is a huge bitch.
>>140644085
She's not. Mikumo is the one who even goes to rescue Freyja in episode 1. She's just trying to make her do her best because she can only sing when she's at stake or something is at stake and there was nothing like that in the debut.
Mikumo was the one who set up the whole plane thing for her to did her best earlier. She's helping her and has an obvious soft spot of her, she's harsh because she's her mentor.
>>140644085
She knows that Freyja fold waves only activate when shit gets serious so she's probably pressuring her so she'll work better
Mikumo is verbal toward Freyja because she knows she sings a lot better under pressure. Probably slowly trying to wean her off that at the same time.
>Messer and Keith have a long one-on-one duel for the second time
>we barely saw 5 seconds of it just like the first time
This show is cruel. All I want is some mecha fanservice with the two ace pilots. And I know it's just a matter of time and the show will deliver it sooner or later, but I want it now.
GAS THE IDOLS
SPACE WAR NOW
>>140644313
New? Did you remember plus?
>>140644794
I don't mean new new. Just new as in we've seen them for the first time
>>140644643
I think that fight will be a big fight so they're saving it for the right time.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SUBS
>>140645030
You know once upon a time, it used to be that subs took over 24 hours to come out.
And that's just in the internet age. Once we had to trudge through the snow uphill to get our subs
>>140645158
>Once we had to trudge through the snow uphill to get our subs
Honestly some probably had to do that back when tape trading was a thing.
>>140645158
Back then it was only until the series is over, fansubbing with time on mind only took off during the mid-00s and Horrible showed up a couple of years later. God forbid if the series you want to watch was in some meme semi-private tracker that required constant seeding.
If you were a super animu fan you'd have to buy bootlegs or trade VHS/Betamax tapes before you even find out if the anime you're watching is good.
>>140645365
>he never had to wade uphill 6 km through a foot of snow both ways to get his subs
Fucking children, get off this site.
I have 2 plotholes in my mind.
1) Why did the Kaze Kingdom stopped attacking in episode 1? They were winning and shit was going downhill for the good guys
2) Why did they stop attacking again in this episode? They could have first made the announcement, and the nstarted attacking and staying there until everyone is literally dead.
>>140645158
>>140645365
>>140645446
>>140645487
This >>140645030 is proof that anyone born after 1990 is a goddamn newfag.
>>140641613
>turns out at the end that they have a comparable lifespan to humans but age slower, their planet just has longer years. She's still middle-aged though
>>140644085
>Mikumo seems like a huge bitch.
Watch the fucking episode (and learn Japanese) Kaname specifically said they don't have the time to wait for Freyja to get her shit together. They need her power now. That's why they can't be all fun and games with her. They have to be tough.
>>140645589
They were testing WALKURE.
>>140645627
Kaname is so old she can't wait to retire to the point she's rushing Freyja to be good
>>140645597
2010 wasn't that long ago anon, it was still taking a day or two to get subs after release.
>>140645642
They could have ended the war right there in episode 1.
>>140644790
He's totally gonna go Athrun Zala them. His Go To Helling Walkure is just to cover up his fandom. He's probably got a shrine to them in his room and hugs his Mikumo daki at night.
Why is fish slut so thirsty? I'm sure there are better guys around.
>>140642867
>commence the jigglin'
I want to bury my face in tity idol's chest
>>140645844
Bitches love pilots, and he's the best.
>>140645735
The sense of immediate entitlement began when people actually started to bitch when subs weren't out within hours of air. If you came up when you could go months before seeing subbed eps of something on a VHS, a day or two isn't some great imposition. You'll find this entitlement phenomenon occurs from individuals who came up after they were old enough to comprehend mainstreamed anime, thus 1990 and after babies weaned on the Toonami tit who used to beg Mommy to go to the mall to check out Suncoast for a new backpack for grade school.
The state rests.
>>140645589
The first one was just for data apparently. The second one I believe Keith actually said "we've already accomplished our objective"
>>140645844
Have you even seen Messer? There is no better guy around.
>>140645735
>it was still taking a day or two to get subs after release.
Hell, it stills take that for some.
>Mfw they literally just went full Sieg Zeon
>>140645844
I hope she ends up with Messer.
>>140645983
Thanks, Funi!
>>140646000
That part when the hologram was getting formed is my favorite moment of the episode. Really majestic.
>tfw you can't waifu freyja because you already have one
>>140646000
What are the chances for Herman and Jobber number 1 to be killed in the first 12 episodes?
>>140642296
is Heinz-sama the son of aTomatofarmer?
>>140645949
You sound like one of those bitter millenials trying to be more edgy in order to prove that they aren't millenials.
>>140645949
> look at me, I am a elitist faggot.
Bitch, do you know what progress is? I don't care that cars did 2 kilometer a liter back in the 70's. Cars must do 13 KM a liter and I expect this to improve with time. Same with subs, there is no reason (with all the commodities) to this take longer
>>140644313
someone wasn't paying attention in ep.1
>>140645664
Freyja a cute. I wonder how big this image will be by the end of the show.
>older girls always win
>>140646280
>>140646282
You brats have no comprehension of suffering. Only through the labors of those of us who endured torments are your dreams given shape and form. You deserve nothing because you are nothing.
>>140646280
Not him but you sound like a projecting shitlord. Which ironically you are.
>>140642115
HOLY LONELY NIGHT
>>140646211
Who's Jobber number 1?
>>140646282
Have you actually subbed anything in your life?
>>140646449
Go to hell walkure guy.
>>140646449
Big guy with the tattoo.
>>140646510
Fuck off, he will be the main rival.
>>140646449
The blonde guy.
>>140646375
>You brats have no comprehension of suffering.
Suffering? you are standing in the shoulders of gigants and think you are a victim? give me a break. You guys don't do this because some form of personal sacrifice, you do it because it's fun and relatively easy (for you). If it were that hard, you wouldn't do it because you don't have a economic incentive to do so. I really dislike this victim-hood that has permeated everywhere in the internet
>>140646685
Not him but where did you get the idea he works as a fansubber?
No one on /a/ makes subs, how new are you?
>Freyjafags trying to push the tragedy agenda thinking she's going to win this
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING?
>>140646449
Mirage.
>>140646770
They'll go extinct once Mirage gets married with Hayate in the finale
>>140646770
I bet you thought Ranka was going to win.
>>140646780
An exhibitionist.
>>140646780
that naruto fox
>>140646510
Bogue is going to live until the end of the show
>>140646844
Seriously this bitch cannot keep her clothes on.
>>140646475
not subbing a show from jpn to english. But I did translate a math book from portuguese to spanish. Was it difficult? not much for me, I already know the math and the languages. A self sacrifice? nah it was fun, I wouldn't do so otherwise. There was previous tools to use? yes, latex and emacs helped a lot, so it was really streamlined.
I can't say I sacrified because the lack of economic incentive would have meant rationally I wouldn't have done so. The fact that I did it on the absent of a economic incentive means that I was deriving entertainment and not experiencing challenges not related to the task. Ie I wasn't sacrificing myself.
And thus, I delivered earlier than somebody on the 90's would have done so. Because I was standing in the shoulders of giants (latex, emacs, higher education) and this has happened consistently with everybody who is working on this things. The excuse of self sacrifice doesn't hold water considering the dynamics (lack) of economics and the sheer volume of work produced
>>140646872
He will win the Freyja bowl.
>>140642955
Yeah, I'm really digging it. Looks more like their final forms desu
>>140646937
Okay.
Well, you continue being angry in your corner. The rest of us will revel in our Macross thread now.
>>140646760
on the times of gg, commie subs and daiz, guys from the fansubing scene came here and bitched on IRC on how stupid we were. Yet they still came back here and acted as gods as if we owed them respect for subbing chinese cartoons.
The crunchyrolls happened and those faggots died. I am really happy for this actually. So is not entirely uncommon see fansubers still here. Also there has been [anonymous] subs in the past. I remember a case in cross ange and one monogatari episode
>>140646780
A best girl.
>>140645844
>brown/dark skinned woman + mentor with a skull valk
He's dead, isn't he?
>>140646941
Bogue pls staph.
>>140645589
how were they winning?their drones were destroyed one by one.
>>140646937
>but I did translate a book from portuguese to spanish
Wow, so nothing. Translating words is the easiest shit ever retard. I do that everytime I read a post on 4chan. Let's test your knowledge:Prueba realmente colocando subtitulos en un video de 30 minutos o más, imbécil. No sabes cuanto cuesta hasta que lo pruebas tú. Vuelve cuando lo hayas hecho.
>>140647166
>>140646937
Guys come on, you're getting super off-track about this. None of this is making the subs come out faster
>>140646780
Biologically engineered by scientists who collected the purest genes from all species.
>>140647075
They are too busy posting on Reddit. You would know if you actually followed them.
>>140646364
Freyja is still a 14 year old you know, though with her I guess it's like dog years? Every year is like 3.5 years I guess?
>>140644313
These pinpoint barriers lose power. Interesting.
>>140643839
>>140643109
>Maybe Mikumo just did that to put the pressure on Freyja, thinking that would fire her up.
In episode 3, the walkure girls did know Freyja's fold ability comes out when there is some pressure. It's why they put onscreen hayate getting beat up in order to stimulate Freyja.
>>140647303
She's a middle age woman by Windemerian standards
>>140647303
It doesn't apply when the species she lives, 14 is the equivalent of 40, anon. Stop grasping. This is obvious a plot device introduced to make her the winner indisputable.
>>140642649
>i actually feel weird when i'm looking at this.
That's because you are weird.
>>140642890
>Heinz has pre-teen hands.
That's my /a/, experts on pre-teen body part identification.
>>140647166
> implying translating a book of specialized knowledge is easier than translating common dialog with "uh" "sempai-san my kokoro hurts" and "yametee"Eres realmente un idiota. Pero te perdono, debe ser dificil ser normal cuando tus padres son primos entre si.
Also, translating a book is "easier for me" because my background. Translating a video is not, yet I am kind of sure it will be easier for "you" and in exchange harder to translate a math book. Yet the fact remains, that without economic incentives to do so, the fact we actually did it means we were deriving fun and not experiencing difficulties in doing them (otherwise we wouldn't do so) so self-sacrifice is out of the question.
>>140647166
With Aegis and Google can't be more easy.
Con Aegis y Google no puede ser más fácil.
Com Aegis e Google não pode ser mais fácil.
Translating and timing shit is hard, stop waving your Spanish boners around.
>>140644790
If Windermereans only live to 30, just how old are the 2 guys who never get featured in any promotional material because they aren't fabulous enough?
>>140647681
do you know this thing called software? repetitive tasks can be done automatically with it
>>140642867
>Green loli
>nobounce
Kek
>>140642378
It's her one and only chance to win the bowl to be quite honest.
Why can't the mercat win the bowl and we'll just call it a day.
>>140647252
I don't care for the faggots. Does anybody torrent from somewhere else than HS current shows and get the old ones from #exiled-destiny bots? Why stroke the egos of those I-sacrifice-for-you-guys replying them on leddit? It makes no sense
>>140647749
They are probably about to die soon anyway.
I'd guess 30 is a rough estimate too. I don't think they just turn 30 and die on the spot.
>>140647749
They are in their twenties.
>>140647857
Mercat sensei doesn't "win" the bowl, he "is" the bowl, bitch.
>>140647749
I don't even know. I would have pinned Roid as mid-twenties, but he's 20. I would have pinned Bogue as older than the twins, but the opposite is true.
Which macross is the one where it starts being an idol anime?
>>140648240
The first one
Idols back then = Idols today
>>140647749
It's an aprox lifespan, like they can live longer or shorter, but on average, they die on their 30s.
>>140648240
Aquarion Evol
>>140646770
I'm a Freyjafag but i'm start thinking the triangle will work like that: Mirage won't end up fall to Hayate, but Hayate will fall to Mirage very soon.
subs are out
>>140648299
Best answer.
Each Macross Δ episode is better than the one before it. Ep04 has a great mix of fun, humor, and seriousness and a good bit of art design too. So many other anime series don't bother with art design or cinematography.
>>140644643
>All I want is some mecha fanservice with the two ace pilots.
Ha, you can wait for the CGI movie Independence Day 2 which comes out early June 24th (not july 4th). Two movie trailers are out and the 2nd one is over 2 minutes long. Watch the first trailer before the 2nd one. This movie will have the biggest space fighter combat scenes (more than in star wars 2 or 3). It's kind of neat to see the aliens screeching for joy as they anticipate curb stomping those pesky humans. If only the world governments had let Trump put up his fence, then those
illegal aliens would have been kept out.
Official epic Trailer #1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbduDRH2m2M
Official Trailer #2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJgT89hEME
>>140648368
nah
>>140648366
are you okay ESL?
Do I need to watch Macross F before watching Delta?
>>140648493
No. There is no thing you need to watch before Delta.
>>140647939
I believe it. Ray was 27 when Fire Bomber started.
>>140648240
The first one
>>140648366
Good try, Miragefag.
Subs are literally out.
>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_04_[5D8A9FB4].mkv
Fuck yeah it's time!
>>140648677
is this a bait?
Shit. It's true.
>>140648270
>>140648549
That's cool. I guess I will download Macross then.
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806063
>>140648742
Yeah. :^)
>>140648577
I'm serious, because at this rate i can't see how will the triangle start, and it's not like Hayate fall to Mirage first means she will win, it just mean the drama can finally happen, and i bet she will refuse Hayate.
>>140648493
No. But you can watch it anyway
>>140648493
>Do I need to watch Macross F before watching Delta?
No, but you might appreciate various parts and homages more when they reference things from previous shows. You see only the most basic tech introduced in the movie Do You Remember Love? (DYRL). Macross Plus is a four episode OVA and theatrical movie that shows an intermediate point in the history of the human diaspora after the first bunch of Megaroads left earth. Megaroad #1 of course had Hikaru, Misa Hayase, and Lyn Minmay aboard.
The Macross Plus theatrical movie is probably the best one to watch out of the Plus shows and it introduces a lot of the tech you'll see evolved later on. Macross 7 has less budget than the Plus movie of course, but has a number of issues including politics of interest to die-hard macross fans.
After all that is Macross Frontier and that has a lot more evolved tech and the modern flying styles you see in Delta. You can get a good idea from the two Frontier movies.
Delta Universe:
DYRL movie --> Macross 7 --> Macross Plus --> Macross Frontier --> Macross Delta
>another anime ruined by mahou shoujo shit
>>140648832
It's time
based koda
>>140649105
Weak baito
>>140649064
DYRL is an in-universe movie according to Macross 7. SDF Macross TV events but DYRL aesthetics.
On the other hand Macross II is direct sequel to DYRL.
>>140646780
superior girl
>>140648677
>>140648909
>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_04_[5D8A9FB4].mkv
Hopefully, GG will release a bitcoin parody version for Macross Delta similar to the bitcoin version of Attack on Titan. That was hilarious.
>>140649105
Shitposters have gotten really lazy. They can't even get their facts straight.
If freyja winsi will eat my shit
>>140649427
You really want to eat your shit don't you?
I want to fuck the sickness out of the shota king .
WALKUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Freyja
>I only have 30 years to live so i should let Mirage take care Hayate for his happiness.
Mirage
>Freyja only have 30 years of life so i should let her together with Hayate for her happiness.
There will be no triangle war in the show, and it will make shitposting between Freyjafag and Miragefag looks embarrassing.
And if Hayate end up choose someone else, that will be very funny.
>>140649710
He's such a tsundere
>>140649719
Hayate isn't even romantically interested in anyone at this point. Dude just wants to feel the wind and dance.
>>140649710
Aren't most of Walkure aliens?
>>140649305
>DYRL is an in-universe movie according to Macross 7
Everything in Macross is an in-universe movie or tv show. The "actual events" (the real canon, if you will) are unknown.
>>140649710
He's going to be enriched by the yuri sluts, isn't he?
>>140649861
It's Basara, isn't it?
>>140649825
"Stop being so autistic about canon guys lol" - Kawamori
>they say this because using their runes to feel the wind (fly) saps their life force (risks their life)
>>140649305They are all fictional takes of history according to Kawamori. For all you know, Misa could have been a fat toothless hag that got played by a cute actress. We know Minmay's appearance because she played her own role in DYRL. That's why Flashback Minmay resembles DYRL instead of tv show. That was another actress.
>>140649861
IS THAT YOU BASARA?!
>>140649927
Hayate doesn't know, does he?
Haven't seen any of the Macross series, are they all related to each other? Would I need to go and watch them in release order in order for it to make sense?
>>140648832
>>140648677
Excellent.
Nevermind, all the runeshitting we've been doing for the last two threads is crap. But that does explain how she was able to jump on the beam in the first episode.
>>140650009
You can watch Delta without knowing but even then you should eventually go back and watch them because they are (mostly) pretty damn good
>>140649934
Pretty sure that, in universe, Minmay disappeared with Hikaru and Misa when Megaroad-1 went missing, DYRL was made afterwards.
>Ranka Beach
More like Ranka is a bitch, amirite, guys?
>>140650038
>Mirage is flatter than Freyja
Old hag power.
>>140650038
>>140650069
No, the commercial of DYRL was Minmay greeting the audience and saying she was playing herself in the role. You're a newfag if you didn't know that. There were other versions of the same movie made afterwards, but the original was played by Minmay (Sheryl and Mylenne once played her role).
>>140649998
Yeah he does. I think the only people in the dark were the viewers.
>>140650186
>>140649998
Mirage just informed him.
>>140650038
>windermereans die young
>young
At least three of the last four prior episodes have had an identical plot/climax.
>shit freyja can't perform
>shit is getting bad fuck
>shit hayate is a good guy
>shit some fighting goin' on, shit is getting messy
>shit freyja goes super sayian and saves the day with some singing
>shieeeett
What did she mean by this?
>>140650332
that's fine but she should be singing planet dance and every time they should show the same shot of a vf171 exploding
>>140650038
Runes are evil parasites draining the lifeforce of windermeres. Cut your runes and you may live long enough to reach your 40s like Mastah Herman did.
>>140650332
I wonder in next episode will Wind Kingdom retreat first or continue the current battle?
Are they lesbians?
>>140650496
No, they are like sisters.
>>140650538
So they're straight, but just fuck each other anyways?
Me all of them.
>>140650057
All right, thanks.
Oh wow, they actually brought this up
>>140650538
So they're lesbians then.
>>140650392
Obviously the group has sex with each other regularly to promote unity.
>>140650600
Gotta cover their bases early.
That escalated quickly.
>>140650613
I'd have sex with her too, if you know what I mean.
>>140650538
>>140650538
Mom said she was like sisters with her friend too. Then she left.
COSMIC
Is it wrong to be a Freyjafag and want to see her suffer?
Does Macross validate the Ancient Alien theory?
>>140650730
In Macross, there is indeed a precursor race that killed themselves due to a series of bad decisions involving war.
>>140650856
How sensitive are her ears?
>>140650856
I want to nibble those space elf ears.
>>140650723
Only if your name is Tomino and you want to lick her vagina.
>windemer mechs are just valk copy pastes
>no unique mechs like zentradis
>>140651017
Anima spiritia will extend their lifespan
>>140641613
In before one Windermerian year is two or three Earth yerars
>>140650496
why would my wife be lesbian?
>>140651057
well windermere initially got their tech from the UN spacy iirc so it makes sense there is some resemblence
>>140651017
I wonder is that a nature or a curse.
My bet is a curse.
>>140651032
But Tomino is a happy old man, now.
Kaname and the squad captain would be a really sweet couple.
>>140651057
They look super cool at least.
The ED is so good.
Windemere is starting a war because...why? What could they possibly hope to achieve? NUNS is across the Galaxy by this point. Just glass their planet and destroy the rune-bs. Case closed.
>>140641613
Reminder Freyja's best girl status was confirmed months ago.
>>140650454
How is this dude still alive? Looks like he's at least 40
Freyja's butt brought to you by glorious MX's MPEG2 artifacts.
She is so mean. :^(
Literally worse than that guy form Whiplash.
>>140651314
She's doing that so Freyja succeeds though.
Messer is so full shit. Attacks Hayate during the test, scolds Mirage for not killing in cold blood the brainwashed soldiers, acts like his job is the most important thing but as soon as Keith appears he gets all excited because his worthy rival is back and they can have fun trying to kill each other.
>>140651195
They do look good together. I feel bad for fish girl though she's probably not going to get the Messer.
>>140651146
It's a blessing, they don't have to turn decrepit and wrinkly.
What ifit takes more than 364 days for the Windermerian planet to orbit it's sun?
>>140651354
He's partially under the effects of the Var you dolt.
>>140651354
It probably means something that Messer was the only Delta member being affected by the song as well.
>>140651361
I hope next episode won't have something extremely stupid scene happen to Freyja.
>>140651314
That's how it usually work in the idol business.
>>140651309
I want to touch that butt
>>140651481
same
>>140651354
You don't understand true love.
Pls be Basara
>>140651354
>>140651466
>>140651478
If Walkure's song can inoculate people against Var, then Messer gets more Vitamin W than anyone outside Walkure themselves. He really shouldn't be susceptible.
>>140651478
People will turn on her because she's from that planet, get accused of espionage, basically Sheryl plot 2x. Kawamori is recycling a lot of Sheryl things from her: from her gradient hair to fold magic connection with love interest to she'll die young to now this shit.
>>140651431
I don't think they would have made it such a big deal in Freyja's manga then.
Literally me
jesus fucking christ
Should I pick this up?
Is it worth my time?
>>140651445
w-where are her clothes?
>>140651314
I hate that bitch Mikumo.
Worst Walkure..
>>140651675
No, go away
>>140651577
It's going to be Hayate's father.
>>140651675
Your time worths nothing
>>140651648
Looks like a food for Dark Souls 3 player.
>>140651057
One of Kawamori's important points when making Delta was to have the series antagonists pilot VFs so there could be an entire series of VF vs. VF combat. Something only done in OVAs butt never in a series itself
>>140651692
Don't be a fag, Freyja.
>>140651700
that turn to be Basara.
>>140649905
>>140649953
>>140649905
Basara wouldn't have Ranka's songs on an iPod.
>>140651620
Messer is probably naturally violent, the dude is an ace and rocks a shinigami on his plane. He's probably seen some real fucked up shit before joining Delta.
>>140651792
Why not?
>>140651577
It can't be Basara
She would've recognized him.
>>140650701
Those fa/gg/ots deserve to put this in at the very least.
>>140651620
Unless Messer has something else going on with him that we don't know about.
>>1406440854u.
Just finished the first Macross.
How the hell did humankind repopulate across the galaxy so quickly? Hasn't it only been 40-50 years?
>>140651899
Lots of cloning, xenobreeding and Overtechnology.
>Best girl who didn't win
;_;
>>140651926
>xenobreeding and Overtechnology.
?
>>140651942
She deserved better.
>>140651942
Pic related.
>>140651999
Is anyone even in here league?
When is Freya gonna sing my boyfriend is a pilot-o?
>>140651961
Breeding with aliens and overtechnology is the all-around name for the future tech in Macross
We can see Mirage clearly knew Windermere only have 30 years Lifespan, but is Hayate also the same(before Mirage point out about it)?
>>140651942
Minmay is the worst girl in the franchise
>>140652052
She'll do it and still win.
>>140651577
Its Kaifun
>>140651942
She wasn't worth it.
>>140652109
No, that's your mom.
>>140651961
>xenobreeding
The galaxy is basically full of the descendants of the Protoculture, so no matter where you go you're bound to find some alien you can fuck and have viable offspring with, not to mention the fact that the Zentradi are basically humans, just HUEG, and theirs a fix for that.
>Overtechnology
Overtech is all the alien tech humans figured out from the wreckage of the Macross, and it allows all of your sci-fi staples, so shit that makes birth easier and safer is probably included in there.
>>140650856
Her outfit was cute in that scene
>>140652140
Kaifun is busy running a English language knockoff of Fire Bomber.
I'm like 95% sure that's canon and I didn't just make it up.
>>140652124
that would be like defeating gravity
I'm calling it. This guy is going to be the new Gigil. Hates music and Walkure to an obsessive extent before coming to an understanding by the endhopefully without dying
>>140650454
Probably some kind of symbiosis deal they made with the rune thing for a physical advantage, wonder why they don't just cut them off.
>>140652180
Won't say it's cute, but pretty fit for her personality, because it's a party for relax but she still choose wear a suit.
>>140651577
I just hope it wasn't Hayate. It's plausible, he's traveled all over the galaxy, but that would be too cheesy. Also kind of a repeat of movie!Sheryl.
>>140652088
Hayate probably knew since he is a pretty well traveled guy and was able to recognize Freyja was from Windermere when he saw her rune.
>>140652309
It can't be Hayate its either his dad, someone else, or a previous Macross character
>>140651361
we Zeon now?
>>140652124
Why do people actually believe this?
>>140652309
>>140651627
Personally i hope they stop recycling Sheryl scene to Freyja, i like both, but let Freyja copying Sheryl's plot is just boring.
>>140652140
>Kaifun was such a butthurt little bitch towards the military and his failed career that he went into space and founded a new nation of angsty space shitheads who will wage pacifistic war against the children of the Protoculture by wielding weaponized moral outrage
>>140652352
Why do you believe Mirage will win?
New to Macross here. Is it fine if I watch Delta before any of the previous series? And is the singing a big part of the plot, or is there just because? Since that stood out the most among everything else.
Is the prince going to have a crush on freyja?
>>140652335
>It can't be Hayate
How so?
>>140652437
>Is it fine if I watch Delta before any of the previous series?
Yeah.
>>140652437
Read the thread
>>140652414
Now that's a series I'd watch.
>>140652426
Mirage will win Freyja, Hayate will win wind, Mikumo will be last boss.
>>140651648
>what is that?
>brown recluse, definitely
>>140652449
Hayate would have only been like 8-10 years old at the time. Hayate has been drifting for a while, but I don't think he started before he was 13.
Are they going to enroll in a high school?
>>140652437
>Is it fine if I watch Delta before any of the previous series?
Yes
>And is the singing a big part of the plot, or is there just because?
Singing is one of the staples of Macross.
>>140652515
nice try
>episode 4 and no signs of freyja falling for hayate or vice-versa
This is an easy win for Mirage.
hello everyone I'd like you to meet my wife
So there's probably a much bigger secret to why the Walkure do what they do and has something to do with the Fold Receptors.
Also they really do look good together
>>140651445
ai controlled protodeviln space squid android confirmed
>>140652555
There's no signs of anybody falling in love with each other yet idiot. God I hope this is like 7 and the love triangle is completely unimportant to the story
>>140652449
Hayate would have been too young, plus he'd probably remember it anyway.
Chances are it was his dad/mom who was in Windemere and also got the crystal for Hayate's pendant which is the same crystal we see in the cave where Heinz is singing.
>>140652565
Disgusting elf made for rape.
>>140652088
He knew and doesn't give a fuck
>>140652565
Watch her eat the live ones.
>>140652326
Freyja said out loud that she's from Windermere, so I'm not sure he knew.
>>140652522
Well, we don't know anything about his past. Even if he didn't become a drifter until his teens, which we don't know whether or not was the case, he could have come to Windemere at one point with his father/mother/guardian/whatever.
I don't think it was him, I'm just really hoping it wasn't.
>>140652555
To be fair, all three of them are not falling for each others(yet?), i assume they want to move the main plot first, and i think the triangle still won't happen til at least 2 more episodes.
>>140652522
He could have been travelling with his father. I'm actually surprised that he knew about Freyja's lifespan.
>>140652565
Way to take a seasonal waifu. You've got to wait till the show is over to claim her.
>>140652565
She likes it raw. I know from experience.
>>140652582
He is 20 years her senior.
ayy lmao
I think that Freyja's going to win. The short life mention was total foreshadowing and I think he'll proclaim his love as she like dissolves into a consciousness of space or something crazy. Also Mirage makes the best pained faces so I want her to lose and see her delicious despair.
>>140652703
>I'm actually surprised that he knew about Freyja's lifespan.
That maybe pretty much common knowledge for them.
>>140652635
I'm hoping so too since people are trying to turn anything into ammo for their ships.
>>140652565
but that's a boi
>>140652718
I don't care for shipping but you know older man with a younger woman is common right?
>>140652582
Fuck, I want them to be in love. Arad deserves a cake as good as Kaname is.
>>140652769
Really? Boob shakes?
I am somewhat disappointed in the dance.
so cute ahhh
someone edit this so its bogue and mikumo
>>140652718
And?
>>140652703
> I'm actually surprised that he knew about Freyja's lifespan.
Everyone seems to know it since Mirage and the mechanics obviously knew about it.
>>140652736
They're pretty cool.
If I only had a 30 year lifespam, I'd be a rebellious edge lord too.
WOW WOW WOWOW
>>140642457
Like the ketchup?
>>140652718
Anon, Frontier
>>140652718
10 years old.
>>140652745
From the reaction of Mirage in this episode, even she fall for Hayate, she will still let Freyja win.
Question is, will Hayate ever fall for Freyja or he just see her as, say, a little sister.
>>140652582
>get rejected by based Messer
>now flailing and waiting to get rejected by Arad
Kek
>>140652565
ReiRei a cute.
CUTE!
I want Lady M to be Mylene!
>>140652693
>>140652703
I doubt that Freyja would forget the person's face since it was such a huge turning point for her life. I just don't get why people are trying to twist everything to try and justify their pairings.
>>140652848
Again?
>>140652745
>Freyjashitter grasping at straws
>>140652855
Full ED when?
What does everyone think of the music in Delta? I'm enjoying it a lot, though Halation The War's WELCOME TO WALKURE WORLD is getting a bit old.
>>140652924
Especially since we're only 4 episodes in, nobody is interested in anybody at this point.
>>140652868
Wait what? Which pair?
>>140652923
but its Mikumo
How sexy is the Draken III? Also, does anyone think that Windmere aren't descendent from Protoculture? If not, who do you think they're descended from?
>>140649977
>>140650038
Plot twist: Freyja is the mature oba-san
>>140652977
Nothing tops Giri Giri Ai yet, and they still haven't replayed it.
>>140642867
This fucking scene had my dick hard as a rock,
Ranka looks great in this artstyle
>>140653072
dumb dog girl
>>140652991
>>140652977
It's pretty good. I do feel like I'm the only one who likes Halation The War though.
I think whatever the son they played this and last week is going to be my favorite
>>140651445
I don't know why, but she just oozes with sleeper agent vibes. Just like Sheryl's secretary.
>>140652283
>Freya's rune is a pink heart
>Bogue's rune is a yellow spade
Eh. That's close enough.
>>140652781
Maybe in H-mangas.
>Red Team Leader can't get the dick because she'd have to retire after she gets on a flightstick and takes it for a ride
>>140651844
Basara would've been 43 years old. For all we know she has never seen his image before or all pics was when he was in his 20's.
>>140653174
No in real life, dumbfuck. Leave the house more.
>>140653037
Forgot to post pic
>>140642115
Minmay BLACKED out
>>140653196
She can't get the dick because she's ugly as shit
>Hoi na, Hoi na
Oh god this is great. Their relationship is fantastic
>>140652977
>Full ED when?
This.
It's really growing on me.
>>140652924
She might not have gotten a good look at him in the first place, and she looked pretty young when it happened (I'm assuming the flashback from episode 1 is connected to the earthling). Not impossible to forget the details of what he looked like.
>>140653145
I enjoy halation
>>140653293
>appa'ju
>>140652978
I feel like /a/ whole love of waifu wars is too blame for this. People are always so eager to pick a side and then fight it out the entire time which leads to major bulks of the threads being about shipping.
I kind of wish people could sit back and enjoy the show without going overboard, but that is probably impossible
>>140653037
>human-like race
>not descended from the Protoculture
I'm pretty they are descended from the Protoculture.
The ones that are not descended from the Protoculture so far are outright alien shit like the Vajra.
>>140642115
>tfw they didn't add Sharon Apple
The galaxy must hate her for that incident. So sad, she just wanted some of that Isamu love.
So I don't think it's any more debate that Hayate's necklace is definitely a Fold crystal
>>140652290
>Probably some kind of symbiosis deal they made with the rune thing for a physical advantage, wonder why they don't just cut them off.
There are experiments that show castrated rats live longer than uncastrated rats. Would you be willing to castrate yourself to live longer?
>>140653145
I don't mind Halation The War but the WELCOME TO WALKURE WORLD is a little grating after a few times.
What's going to be the Aimo of this series?
>>140653293
Their interactions are wonderful. They have good synergy and they're a lot of fun to watch.
I imagine that will become more common with Mirage as well though.
>>140653342
Man, seriously, what the heck was SDF's problem with people closing their eyes? Every time they did they would look like that.
>>140653295
>>140652977
may 11 my brothers
>>140653438
No budget.
>>140650730
>Does Macross validate the Ancient Alien theory?
Protoculture IS the FAR. It's what allows the story to exist and why most alien intelligent races are humanoid.
Hayate wasn't even around Freyja for this scene, and he was still smiling and laughing like her.
>>140641613
So it's nothing new.
shitty Japanese mecha heroine.
Main Heroine: retard - moeblob - genki - mongolian - autistic - useless - joker - damsel in distress - infant - altruistic - airhead - fanservice - stupid.
>>140653430
That song on Windemere in the beginning gave me Aimo vibes.
Is Mikumo an exhibitionist?
>>140653367
Yea, I see what you're saying. It just seems weird that they'd go to war with the children of the Protoculture if they were one themselves.
>>140653495
Katia won Schwarzsmarken
>>140653495
This is really strange bait.
>>140653438
I think they just forgot to draw the eyes in that shot. After all those dead cross eye / fish eye
>>140651146
>I wonder is that a nature or a curse.
>My bet is a curse.
Well what do you think Elves in fantasy thinks about humans? There is no rule saying the average life of a race has to be 70 years.
But it would be interesting to see if they could live longer if they get turned into cyborgs, or if it is some kind of extreme hardcoded suicide system that couldn't be bypassed.
>>140653430
>>140653293
They looks like a good brother&sister.
Oh wait, that's not what i want.
>>140642115
I love shit like this.
>>140653543
Maybe the Windemere just reject anything protoculture, despite being descended from them. It certainly sounds like they're a race of no fun alloweds from this scene.
I usually stay away from shit like this, but the music is so damn catchy
>>140653582
Who cares what elves think
Elves are for _____________
>>140651834
It would be full of his songs only
>>140653552
VN no
>>140652736
>that gold/black/red combo
>>140653731
>Basara
>ever using ipods
Anon, he plays live.
He'll bring a guitar and play his songs live
>>140645844
Can I stick my dick in her gill slits?
I bet its a pretty common sexual practice for ragnyans, similar to oral.
>>140653354
I can see myself shifting over to /m/ eventually, it's going to get much worse.
>>140653221
Who is Borgue?
Jesus christ how is it even possible to be this cute. No other girl in Macross even comes close.
>>140653681
No Idols allowed
>>140653741
who won in the VN?
"Gallant one-on-one fights are a fallac...OH BOY A TRUE RIVAL!"
>>140653954
I'm already calling her as best main heroine of the franchise insofar
What the hell is this energy thingy on her hair?
>>140653954
This anon speaks the truth.
>MC is a manlet
Fucking dropped :^)
>>140653985
DES please go.
>>140654017
Messer is shit, SHIT!
>>140654094
Chieri best Walkure.
>>140654121
What do you just said about my husbando?
>>140654039
it's a tentacle
>>140654017
Im really waiting for a moment where Keith and Messer are having another one-on-one, stroking each others plane cocks, and Hayate/Mirage combo flies in to help, chase Keith off, and Messer is all grumpy and shit.
>>140654073
>it's not gonna suck itself
>(and Hayate)
This song was already good with Freyja singing it but it became a million times better as a duet. Sasuga Mikumo.
>>140654219
I liked Takamina and Acchan but they both were sidelined for Nagisa and Chieri.
Mikumo reminds me a lot of Acchan.
>>140654278
Indeed.
>>140654282
Poor Haya-haya.
Does anyone else find the primary conflict of this particular Macross series to be unintentionally hilarious?
Consider: A traditional, monocultural, and authoritarian nation-state that perceives its way of life to be in danger is using (pseudo)classical music to attack a multicultural egalitarian (in the sense that Humans, Zolans, Zentraedi etc are equally protected under the law, anyway) empire that is defending itself with the power of degenerate art.
It's a good thing /pol/ has not heard about this series, given how easily it fits into one of their bullshit red pill narratives.
>>140654235
>>140654039
>tfw Mikumo tentacle-rape Freyja
>>140651844
Not if he wears a hologram or he was wearing a beard.
Did Mirage accidentally dance with Hayate?
>>140654424
Well, she only puts out fold waves when under stress after all.
>>140651942
But she did won.
Only Hikaru lost.
>>140654434
No.
>>140654399
>Does anyone else find the primary conflict of this particular Macross series to be unintentionally hilarious?
We ARE talking about a short lived race of humanoids with superior physical capabilities, who deliberately consumes their own lifespan to enhance their own powers. That is the kind of race willing to start wars for minor gain, because they don't see much to lose by dying.
>>140651146
>>140651356
Idols are forever young
>>140642867
>>140652769
Glad to see I'm not the only one who loved this scene.
>>140652309
As if they weren't copy paste Sheryl and Alto in relationship so far.
>>140651356
>It's a blessing, they don't have to turn decrepit and wrinkly.
>>140654508
>Idols are forever young
When they had the audition for the role they had to specify the girl can't be any older than 25.
>>140653924
They meant Bogue
>>140651361
>>140652350
Let's put those backwater Windmereans in their place.
>>140654543
>had to specify the girl can't be any older than 25.
I'd watch a show about Christmas cake idols.
>>140654508
>yfw Nana is actually a Windermerean
While she's technically 17 she's still a decrepit old woman.
>>140654543
I'm not 25 yet. Does that mean I can still be an idol?
>>140652878
Where the fuck does he see her as a little sister? Girl even told him off and was more mature than he is career wise. She made him man up.
>>140652965
>Miragefags actually think she will win
>>140654332
Mikumo is pretty clearly a different idol that went back to her home planet.
>>140653854
Who knows, maybe they have penises similar to sharks (they serve fish/jellyfish/squid at the restaurant and they have sharp teeth so presumably Ragnans eat meat) in that they have dual grasping pelvic-fin penises.
>>140652924
Alto forgot Sheryl was the one who gave him THE SKY in the movie until the last minute when he recalled.
You are underestimating Kawamori. Plus Freyja does have memory problems with her tragic fire flashback.
>>140651280
they have a unique protoculture relic, obviously its powerful enough to give them the confidence to take on the entire galaxy
>>140652283
He's kind of a punk.
>>140654434
>>140654483
I would say a little.
I also wonder how much time passed between episode 3 and 4.
These two will become a thing, right?
R-Right?
BOKURA NO SENJOU FULL VERSION WHEN?
Why is everybody STILL constantly surprised that Walkures singing actually does something.
Every damn episode is 5 minutes of reaction shots to the fact that they are just singing
Sieg Windermere!
>>140653495
Sheryl was the main heroine of Frontier. She was even credited before Ranka.
>>140654726
I thinkKaname is going to die and they will be the tragic love story in this show.
>>140654726
I'm like 80% sure that they are Roy/Claudia ver. 3.0 so maybe
>>140654637
He clearly didn't think she is "mature" yet, yes we know about that, but not for Hayate, at least he didn't figure out yet, even he know Windermere's lifespan.
And personally i think it will be more fit for Freyja fall for Hayate first and try to chasing him.
>>140654686
I predict the NUNS will lose grounds in the next episodes but they will make a comeback and totally rekt Windermere in the later.
>>140654782
I thought it wasn't people reacting to Walkure but the reaction to Freyja's singing, mainly being incredibly strong. And this week it was because they were singing so strongly, they did not even need to amplify their voice, the Var people could just hear them in midair
[DeadFish] Macross Delta - 04 [720p][AAC].mp4
a new competitor
>>140654846
Serious question. How new to this are you?
>>140654399
They are also stealing away one of their clear talented magic musicians with the power of trashy pop songs who refuses to reproduce with her people and will fall for foreign person.
>>140654846
>gg sub
For what?
>>140654846
>DeadFish
>competitor
Might as well say HorribleSubs actually subs.
So when is Mirage going to get her development? I'm loving all these Freyja/Hayate interactions but except for part of last episode, they've been ignoring Mirage.
>>140654918
Misa got her development with hikaru in episode 23/36. Beat that
>>140654918
From yesterday's thread:
> ・スタッフ「序盤はフレイアや美雲押してく」
>・ハヤテの中の人「ミラージュ好きです」
Not til the "introduction chapter" ends i guess.
>>140654918
Eventually. This isn't a main heroine feature like Frontier. There's clearly Freyja as female main character.
>>140646780
She's obviously either cyborg/robotic. Or some sort of pseudo or half breed protodevilin.
>>140654918
Probably when she gets shot down and gets saved by Hayate.
>>140654846
You can't make up this shit
>>140654956
Misa got a lot of development with Hikaru before that and she only won because Minmay didn't love him.
>>140654984
That simply says that the majority of the staff (that includes Kawamori and the scriptwriter) likes Freyja and Mikumo, but Hayate VA likes Mirage.
>>140655023
How is it possible for anyone to love Hikaru anyway?
>>140654984
And when is that, by episode 22?
The development for this turned out to just be painfully slow. Just 4 episodes of introducing 3 characters and the fact that 2 of them enrolled into the same organization.
Hell, we haven't even gotten any character backstory at all yet.
Instead they are just repeating the same shit over and over again, that Freya is bullshit OP and Vomitboy likes to dance.
>>140654918
Slow and steady wins the race
If Mirage is heavily featured then she's obviously the clear winner so they need to build up Freyja first because she's an idol first and foremost and is tied to the enemy just like Rankashit
>>140655073
I love Misa but she had shit taste. I don't know how her dead boyfriend was, but Kaifun and then Hikaru?
>>140655073
He's a vf pilot. You'll never be a fighter jet pilot and be as cool as hikaru.
>>140655093
>Slow and steady wins the race
Tell that to Ranka and Mao. First girl+main heroine win the race. So Freyja, Sheryl and Sara btfo them and all had early development.
>>140655073
Hikaru is a handsome guy, anon.
>>140653871
There's still bickering about who's gonna win over there, just less of it.
>lol ur pop idolshit is filthy
>listen to our boring lalalalalala tunes
>sieg heinz
>sieg heinz
>>140655068
No it said the staff push Freyja and Mikumo in prologue, just like what we saw right now.
Hayate VA likes Mirage is true, but it doesn't really matter unless he have rights to change the plot(pretty sure not possible).
>>140655216
Bogue, pls.
>>140654039
fold shit obviously
>>140654282
Is that Ragnan language on the bottom?
Any guess on the cypher it uses?
>>140655336
they'll lose badly like the zeeks as well
>>140654278
>it's not going to yak itself.jpg
>>140654039
ANIMA SPIRITIA
>>140654956
>What is Baibai Marusu.
>>140655082
I guess 1 or 2 more episode since the first main plot just revealed in end of this episode.
>>140654992
>There's clearly Freyja as female main character.
You know what, what you saying remind me True Tears.
>>140651700
Hayate confirmed for Basara's illegitimate love child
>>140654918
It'll be a while, hell I don't think even Misa got much until episode 7.
>>140655082
What kind of back story you want about Mirage then? she was a Yankee?
>>140655542
>Basara
>loving anything other than music
Do we know how many episodes this is running for?
>>140655658
9 BD volumes, 26 i guess.
>>140655658
Two cour so 24-26.
>>140655677
Neat, thanks.
Are these who I think they are?
It would be more of a twist if Freyja didn't win at this point.
>>140655607
I doubt we're going to get any since muh mysterious idol stereotype.
>>140655748
Mirage is the VF pilot, Mikumo is the idol.
>>140655761
We're only on page 8. There's no reason for a new one.
>>140655761
What a shitty OP
>>140655363
You don't lose in Macross. It's an UNDERSTANDING SHOW. Kawamori hates war.
>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_04_[5D8A9FB4].mkv
>a fucking 600MB
What happened with 10bit smaller size encode thing?
>>140655539
What does Macross have in common with True Tears? Are you retarded?
>>140641739
>https://marumaru.in/b/origin/139087
>To be continued.
If they're just going to copy the anime, why bother?
>>140655992
The Zentradis lost
>>140656014
They couldn't contain the jiggle in smaller filesizes.
>>140656024
Nothing, that's why i said "what you saying", because Noe was FeMC of True Tears.
>>140652977
>though Halation The War's WELCOME TO WALKURE WORLD is getting a bit old.
Except it's not
>>140653145
>It's pretty good. I do feel like I'm the only one who likes Halation The War though.
You're not alone ma nigga
Looks like Messer's actually affected by the Windermere song. Is this death flag?
>>140655359
I assumed the crystals in Heinz's cave were fold crystals, and her hair shines uncannily like them.
>>140656433
Messer is a collection of death flags that somehow achieved sentience.
>>140643158
This is scaring me.
Are those eggs?
>>140655878
Your're right.
>>140654803
>One of the member dies
>Mirage replaces her
FUCKING CALLING IT NOW
>>140657550
>She sings songs she learned from her Aunt Mylene
>>140657550
>Mikumo goes Kamina
>Mirage replaces her
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>MIJUYO