Why? Why is this shit so bad already? Never since 7 have I ever dropped a Macross series so quickly. It's like the Macross people just jumped on-board the idol group bandwagon just to earn a few extra yen. The CGI and Valkyrie designs are some of the worst I'v ever seen and they're not even following their set principles of hero pilot (sort of) and and one main songstress. Not to mention it feels rushed as fuck. I feel betrayed.
Please answer me, did that autistic girl piss on the apples of the container ?
I thought it was great.
>>139605598
Shit taste.
>>139605598
http://strawpoll.me/7270500/
http://strawpoll.me/7270500/
http://strawpoll.me/7270500/
because idolshit ruins everything senpai
>>139605598
Yeah but it's fun though
>and they're not even following their set principles of hero pilot (sort of) and and one main songstress
They've been doing two singers since Zero though. The main triangle is between a singer, a pilot and another pilot
>>139605672
No.
>>139605733
Please watch more anime before saying this Mr. 12 year old my first anime
>>139605744
Worst taste.
I've been watching Macross since the 80's. I know a shit Macross when I see it.
>>139605818
Fun is subjective.
>>139605863
Oh I guess you're right, thanks anon I won't watch this show anymore.
>>139605598
>Never since 7 have I ever dropped
>Dropping 7
Opinion completely disregarded
>>139605672
She only farted a little on them.
>>139605863
>Being mad and forcing opinions on people because they disagree with you
Thankfully I have discussed absolutely everything I could before the main /m/ shitposting force arrived.
I hope you will die till the next Sunday.
>>139605598
it was a masterpiece. i can't wait to see the episode 2.
>>139605598
did you like robotech?
>>139605934
>you will never taste those apples
;_;
>>139606284
she melted my heart several times in a single episode
I'd rather rewatch Zero instead, at least it's short.
>People getting triggered so hard
>>139606451
>triggered
>>>/tumblr/
GIRI GIRI AYYYY
>>139605598
>>139605863
Wasn't SDF Macross pretty heavy on the idol shit? It was really prominent and eventually played a huge part of the plot. Macross Plus was also very Idol. Wait, and so was frontier and it had two singers. Off the top of my head Macross 7 is probably the least idol since it was rock bands but even it had an idol group later in the series.
This is just slightly different in that the idols are now fighting stand-alone. Also Kawamori has been a huge idolfag since forever so I'm not sure how this is a surprise to you.
>>139606601
GIRI GIRI MIND~
>>139605598
The main problem is there's no sense of danger going on. Yes there are battles and such, but you just can't feel the life and death struggle in the midst of the battles.
In Frontier, Zero, and even the original Macross you could sense the desperation, the fear, and the urgency to fight for one's, or someone else's, life in the first main battle. They showed it as a battle and really didn't mess around with that fact.
In Delta, however, they've glamorized it. The whole idol group singing amongst the battle may seem, at first, like a great idea, but it takes away from the whole, fight or die feeling that battle is. The idol group idea may have worked out had they not used them the way they have.
In Macross, there's a time and place for singing during a battle. But Delta is not it. As such it comes off as a cheap and meaningless way to make a money grab.
>>139605598
What a shit thread. i'm gone.
>>139606991
>Wasn't SDF Macross pretty heavy on the idol shit?
Nope. It was about MUH CULTURE shenanigans, imperialism and war time antics, Minmay's whole drama was on the side.
>Macross Plus was also very Idol.
It's literally top gun in space, the idol shit doesn't get any focus.
Asami Seto is in this! I am happy.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_00:19:32.128_[2016-04-04_15:52:44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uecBpk1.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_00:19:32.128_[2016-04-04_15:52:44].jpg")
The show was okay, but I got super hyped for the song from 19:27 to the end.
>>139605598
>Yellow Ranka
>Bitchy McBitch
Why are the main girls so shit? What in the world was Kawamori thinking.
Also, Purple is going to be the Mami of the show. Episode 3, mark my words.
Damn this episode had some AKB0048 feel
>gg is alive
>>139607320
>It's literally top gun in space, the idol shit doesn't get any focus.
It's Top Gun in space for like the first episode and a half but it pretty much becomes about Sharon incredibly quickly to the point that the second half feels disjointed from the first
>>139607577
I'm more excited for their subs than the actual show.
>>139607577
Were they ever gone? I have to admit I haven't watched much anime since ~2011.
>>139607585
Sharon doesn't even get any focus beyond being the final boss, it;s mostly about the relationship between the three MCs getting over their shit.
>>139606601
It's GIRI GIRI EYE
>>139607568
>AKB0048
Kawamori did AKB0048
>>139607385
Walkyrie was one big cringe-worthy plot device. The whole Magical Girl entrance about made me drop the show right there, but when they actually take part in the battle itself is the moment I said "NOPE."
>>139607666
The last thing they released was Tokyo Ravens in winter 2014
>>139607709
>cringe
>>139607707
Huh I didn't even know he did that. I'm still surprised at how good that show was.
>>139607709
wait there are people who don't like magical girls?
>>139607704
>Sharon doesn't even get any focus beyond being the final boss,
Besides being literally everywhere and the catalyst to everything starting to go wrong
>it;s mostly about the relationship between the three MCs getting over their shit.
Which is cringeworthy at best, plodding at worst
There were like three other Delta threads before this. Why did this become the next one?
>>139607781
AKB0048 was the last thing he actually directed so honestly none of this surprises me
Pretty good, nothing wrong with idols desu
cgi needs to fuck off forever though
>>139605598
>I can't into hot blooded sequences
>muh gritty shows
Why does /m/ always have shit taste and can't comprehend hot-bloodedness in my chinese cartoon?
>>139607807
I didn't say I didn't like Magical Girls, but it doesn't belong in an established mecha series like Macross. It's like trying to put a giant robot battle scene in the middle of a Sailor Moon episode.
>>139607808
>Besides being literally everywhere and the catalyst to everything starting to go wrong
She's plot device but the OVA never actually focuses on her.
>Hey look I've made this virtual idol singer in the compunds of Macross City where nothing can go wrong
>sounds neat
>3 episodes of wangst and drama later
>Oh no she's gone out of control and kidnapped Myung! We have to work together to stop her
>The End
She doesn't even have a motivation beyond "FOR THE EVULZ"
>>139607758
Why did they stop? Did the decreasing quality of anime depress them so much?
>>139607807
>>139607942
You know they're not actually magic right? It's the clothes changing tech from Frontier just made to look flashy
>>139607942
>I didn't say I didn't like Magical Girls,
but it isn't Magical Girls and you know it.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_17.10_[2016.04.04_12.46.57].png](https://i.imgur.com/U5cSLbR.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_17.10_[2016.04.04_12.46.57].png")
This show is a (fucking) blast
>direct sequel to Macross F is full of stupid and ridiculous idols and light shows
wow who would have guessed
>>139607878
>cgi needs to fuck off forever though
Nobody does 2D mechs anymore unless you're Sunrise and even that isn't exactly true. You honestly might as well not watch mecha anime in general
>>139607964
>She doesn't even have a motivation beyond "FOR THE EVULZ"
I'm not denying this. I actually wish Plus had stayed Top Gun the anime the whole time and just not had the Sharon subplot entirely but it does basically become the plot instead of it being about pilots
>>139607970
They just got bored with anime IIRC.
>>139607808
>cringeworthy
>>>/facebook/
>>139607942
>It's like trying to put a giant robot battle scene in the middle of a Sailor Moon episode.
I wouldn't have been opposed to that. I dunno, established series like this switching it up from time to time can be fun.
>>139607971
Of course, but the aesthetic is there.
>>139608025
>direct sequel
w-whait what?
>>139607971
>>139607987
Yes I know, I was referring to their entrance. It was just so out of place.
What is it with first episodes this season not having any conclusion? The characters get midway through some sequence or introduction and then suddenly credits. They're not even cliffhangers really.
>>139607942
>like trying to put a giant robot battle scene in the middle of a Sailor Moon episode.
It's been done and it was incredible. There's Rayearth too for that matter.
>>139608025
>direct sequel to Macross F
>direct
Fuck off to mal
>>139607942
>I know Macross better than Shoji Kawamori
Seriously Kawamori is still young at heart, but people like you are rotting inside.
>>139605598
>dropping 7
Way to tell /a/ how low of a power level you got there anon
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_09.46_[2016.04.04_00.16.49].png](https://i.imgur.com/zClLSwt.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_09.46_[2016.04.04_00.16.49].png")
>>139608078
If they don't leave you a conclusion, wouldn't that make it a cliffhanger?
>>139608078
Did you watch the 1st episode? it's a cliffhanger with the 2 of them falling down.
>>139608048
>switching it up from time to time can be fun.
There's switching it up, and then there's changing too much.
Fighting space bugs is one thing, but a brain disease, space nazis, bad Valkyrie designs, and battling idols is going too much.
>>139608202
Fair enough, I'm new to the series so I suppose it'd bother people who have been around longer more.
>>139606348
Why live, anon?
>>139607279
>In Delta, however, they've glamorized it.
it's just the 1st episode.
You underage normalfags should just stop watching anime already, always so whiny.
>>139608078
It's called a cliffhanger
>>139607279
>In Frontier, Zero, and even the original Macross
I notice you totally left out 7 and Plus, the two series Kawamori has stated Delta will take the most inspiration from
>>139608262
>it's just the 1st episode.
Go watch the first episodes of other Macross series before saying this.
>>139608356
>7
>will take the most inspiration from
Welp I'm out for good. Plus was great though.
>>139605598
Why is /m/ full of casualfags
>>139608362
>Go watch the first episodes of other Macross series before saying this.
>>139608433
What's your beef with 7 bro?
>>139608487
I know homage has its place and all, but why are they making it so obvious she is going to lose?
>>139608570
You don't know that.
Zentraedis are just as prone to lose as the younger idol is
>>139608433
LISTEN TO MY SONG
I
S
T
E
N TO MY SONG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFJbIAAYQx8
>>139608570
So that it surprise people when she actually wins
>>139607279
Every battle doesn't have to have an intense fight or die feeling. It's called pacing. Also sometimes it's fun to watch a rock n' roll ass-kicking.
>>139608620
Freyja isn't human though
>>139608698
What does that have to do with anything?
>>139608487
First two are guy desperately fighting to keep the girl safe.
<The last one we this
>>139608524
MC pilots his Valkyrie with a fucking guitar. nuff said.
>>139608639
She only cares about music
>>139608666
And the pacing for Delta was complete shit. It felt like it was stuck on fastforward.
>>139608743
>First two are guy desperately fighting to keep the girl safe.
Isn't this the same thing here? He can't even use weapons properly, they had to have him dance his way out which I think was pretty unique on that note
>MC pilots his Valkyrie with a fucking guitar. nuff said.
No that's not 'nuff said. That's not even going into what your actual problem with it is, it's just saying a thing that is in it
Is the first song out already?
>>139608749
All girls care about dicks, even creepy angle-fish monster girls.
Only men can prefer abstract ideas and phenomena to base biological needs.
Damn I love the song at the end of the episode.
>>139609076
No this time, Freyja is Basara 2.0
>>139608977
nvm got it :^)
>>139609172
what is nvm?
>>139609076
Anon, Freyja is Basara level music lover.
>>139608904
>dance his way out
That was probably one of the top 3 dumbest things about this episode alone. Sure it was unique, and to tell you the truth I was expecting something like this to occur ever since the preview episode back in December. But it was still dumb as fuck. It like this series isn't taking itself seriously at all and is just playing around with the Macross name.
Every anime series has that one element that will turn some people off to it. Piloting a Valkyire Guitar Hero style was mine.
>>139609213
>>139609172
You can't have 2 girls in a Macross series and not have them eventually want the dick. That's just impossible
i hope the opening is going to be good.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_23.37_[2016.04.04_14.44.21].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/znIRFRn.jpg "[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_01_[2B5AEEE1].mkv_snapshot_23.37_[2016.04.04_14.44.21].jpg")
its pretty heavy on the songstress part. but the dogfights are alright I guess. Ill keep watching it
also picture related. I cant wait for them to activate it
>>139609353
>like this series isn't taking itself seriously at all
This is exactly what people were saying about Frontier, especially during the "hurr this is gonna be in high school" portion of the show and they were wrong. Even with this premise, it's still a Kawamori show so I would expect seriousness to happen eventually
>Every anime series has that one element that will turn some people off to it. Piloting a Valkyire Guitar Hero style was mine.
Okay but you haven't even watched it and you're saying it's bad because of one thing you dislke. I'll have you know I dropped 7 after the first two episodes as well but came back later and actually watched it
>>139608814
And yet everyone else seems to think it started out a bit slow. They did a nice job of quickly introducing the characters, developing a little backstory that will be easy to get into later, and they clearly stated their motivation.
The first episode begins to climax when we finally see the power of the Walkure that heart ahoge and MC have been arguing about throughout the episode.
Then, It then shows you that this isn't going to be as easy as we all thought. There are going to be some challenges ahead as they introduce a squad of what we can only assume are villains who seem pretty bad-ass themselves.
And just when it seems like the reaction is going to occur and the day is going to be saved: BOOM! Shot down from the sky and epic song and cliffhanger until next week.
I thought the pacing was perfect for an introduction. I'm sure it will slow down with the audition episode next week.
>>139609372
The can't top: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj7cux9ddWE
>>139609399
that's in the next episode?
She will win the MCbowl right?
>>139608030
>Nobody does 2D mechs anymore unless you're Bones
Fixed.
>>139609571
>not main girl
>macross
yea jee I wonder
>>139609571
She seems is Millia while Hayate is Max.
>>139609399
Do the Valküre have their own Macross class warship?
>>139609585
or sunrise.
>>139609363
You will see
>>139609558
I assume so. It was flashed for a second after the end credits
>>139609631
I sure hope so. Though I doubt its cobbled together with carriers for arms
>>139609571
>Older
>Bitchy
Yeah, it checks out.
GIRI GIRI EYE ikenai BORDERLINE
>>139609571
Only in the movies
>>139609698
she was actually pretty polite once she realized the MC wasn't the stowaway
>>139609631
I think it's a Quarter
>>139609585
Bones does them always, Xebec does them sometimes, and Sunrise does them for Gundam.
Surprisingly this thread started turning into something good. This is the power of Delta. It can revive [gg] and turn shitpostin into semi civil discussion.
>>139609618
Kawamori can't repeat the same trope every time, it will make his shows predictable. This time younger girl/idol has all chances to win.
>>139609631
They have quarter like in F.
I liked it.
Walkyrie was a bit of a turn off mostly for the transformation and their "power suits".
I liked the MC and the heroine and i think the episode was great.
>>139608248
I've been around for almost two decades. This doesn't bother me since "Macross" as a concept was pretty nebulous to begin with. It was a fucking vehicle to sell transforming plane toys.
>>139609770
>Kawamori can't repeat the same trope every time, it will make his shows predictable
I don't think Kawamori cares if his gloriously cheesy love triangles are predictable. If he wants unpredictability he throws in dogs and Isaac Newton.
>>139609696
>Though I doubt its cobbled together with carriers for arms
Didn't that become the standard design for Macrosses after space war 1?
post your favorite macross mech
>so heavy with weapons it literally crushes the ground it walks on
>>139609585
Actas does them for the next mecha anime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPAuTLNUo4
>>139609850
This. His character progressions are pretty standard fare, it's the plot and fluff that you should be inspecting for surprises.
>>139609880
looks like a regular arm with a flight deck for a shield
>>139608743
>MC pilots his Valkyrie with a fucking guitar. nuff said.
I know your kind, I have a few irl friends who are like this.
They think G Gundam is not a real gundam show and Gurren Lagann is retarded.
Also they can't comprehend OPM because according to them shonen shows need to follow its traditions.
Guess what, they rarely consume anime/manga for the past decade and more of /v/ guys nowadays.
Bitter oldfags who can't even into anisongs
>>139609459
Except Frontier was serious from the start. Yes it had it's slice of life moments later, but it never really strayed from the seriousness (Hell you get to see a guy get squashed like a bug by a bug in the first episode). But Delta... it's like it's gone out of it's way NOT to be serious at all.
Also I HAVE tried to watch 7 I made it to episode 8 before I couldn't stand anymore.
>>139609770
If you want unpredictable it'd be Mikumo winning.
>>139607279
>The whole idol group singing amongst the battle may seem, at first, like a great idea, but it takes away from the whole, fight or die feeling that battle is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F-0KCm5ilE
>>139610176
idolshit has gone too far
>>139610093
> it never really strayed from the seriousness
I disagree, Frontier rarely felt serious and if you tried to take it that way you were likely very disappointed, because the overall war/conspiracy plot was mediocre. And you say "from the start," but before it even aired the main impression generating interest was NYAN NYAN NYAN NI HAO NYAN GORGEOUS DELICIOUS DECULTURE.
>....
>NOT
>HAVE
Stop typing like a teenager.
I'm fucking addicted to IKENAI BORDERLINE
>>139610093
There's a difference between something not being to your taste and feeling "betrayed" like is stated in the OP. I can't understand how anyone who has seen more than one series can think that there's a fixed template that a show in the series must follow or that they can even really get a good grip on what each one's about just having watched one or two episodes.
>>139610176
this is amazing, why haven't I seen this yet?
>>139610176
AKB was pretty great.
>>139610165
I just want Freyja to be happy. It doesn't mean she needs to win Hayate, she can fall in love with someone onelse (fucbois?). But goddammit, I don't want her to be another Zessica.
>>139610093
I guess lots of people forget how silly SDF was because they watched it many many years ago. But I finished it just recently and I still remember how extremely stupid sometimes. It didn't even try to be serious for the first half of the show. And I liked it that. This is what Macross always was and I want it to be.
>>139610240
>Frontier rarely felt serious
Did we ever watch the same anime? The Preview episode for it was serious despite the Nya Nyan song. which actually added in a nice bit of cuteness.
>>139610040
FYI G Gundam was awesome, but GL was retarded. Also I consume a lot of anime.
>>139609942
Those things are fucking gorgeous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxlwBya_To
>>139610317
For an established long running series like Macross there is a template that allows it to be Macross. Delta may not have thrown that template out, but they have graffitied all over it. And not in a good way.
>>139610440
Yes SDF had it's stupid moments, but pretty much all 80's anime was like that.
>>139609758
a quarter is smaller than a macross?
>>139610176
>CGI for idols
I hope Delta won't have this cancer
>>139610642
yes
>>139610642
It's called Macross Quarter, as in, quarter the size of one
>>139610630
>Delta may not have thrown that template out, but they have graffitied all over it.
I find that hard to believe considering it's the same director as every other Macross so I'd believe he knows what he's doing with his own premise especially considering how he said that things in Delta would feel different from previous entries, hence the broken triangle in the logo
>>139610327
>this is amazing, why haven't I seen this yet?
Why haven't you?
0048 is pretty much an AU Macross
>>139610461
>Did we ever watch the same anime?
The one with panty-hunting episodes, film-a-movie episodes, and a traumatized crossdressing MC? With shitty CG bugs as the main opponent and a dumb-as-shit background plot controlling them?
>>139610327
It's definintely worth watching if you haven't seen it.
>>139610630
>For an established long running series like Macross there is a template that allows it to be Macross. Delta may not have thrown that template out, but they have graffitied all over it. And not in a good way.
Not really. It fits pretty well unless you want to center your template only on Plus and declare everything else an exception to the rule.
>>139610483
those hands are really gross
also she's right behind that thing when it fires, how are her eardrums not blown out?
>>139610630
There is singing, there are aliens in need of culturing, there are mecha, there is an (eventual) love triangle.
That's all the pieces you need.
>>139610799
I swear people have some sort of amnesia with Kawamori franchises. When Frontier came out, people were mad that it was too silly and insisted that Macross wasn't supposed to be silly. When Logos aired just recently, people insisted that it was out-of-place because Kawamori didn't write it himself and it was too silly, when it was much closer to Sousei's tone than Evol had been. And now again, they're acting like Macross is a mature adults-only franchise.
>>139610630
Long running sure. Established? No. You don't really know what you're going to get other than singers and transforming planes. SDF was nothing like 7. Zero was very different in tone and feel from both, and Frontier was tonally all over the place. We don't even really know how Delta is going to feel since it just started. You sound like a whiner and I'm not even enthralled by Delta either. You're just being the worst sort of fanboy.
>>139611090
It's less amnesia and more like /a/ gets new people all the time so the culture will be different between series, especially ones like Kawamori shows that get sequels every like 3-10 years or something. The people on /a/ that watched Logos aren't the ones who watched Evol who weren't the ones who watched Sousei and etc. for everything else. Macross gets it a bit worse because people have really not watched all the series and think they've all gotta be like Plus or something.
>>139610799
Panty hunting, film-a-movie, not to mention the quality in those episodes too a noticeable drop. I'll admit they aren't my favorite episodes of that series, but Frontier still stands as a great continuation and the PROPER way to switch things up a bit. The thing that made Frontier great is that is actually paid proper homage to the original series. Also I saw nothing wrong with the CG bugs.
>>139610869
I'm centering it around the original series. Delta doesn't fit this at all.
>>139610960
All of which need to fit together properly. delta doesn't do that.
>>139610630
It's a pretty natural progression.
SDF: Aliens have never encountered songs, it freaks them out
Plus: Songs hypnotizing people
7: Aliens that feed on songs learning to sing
Zero: Ancient songs that are much closer to magic than anything in Delta
Frontier: Aliens that communicate with fold waves also produced by songs
Delta: Disease likely caused by and cured by songs
The only thing that's really changed is that now technology has advanced far enough that they can sing in person on the front lines thanks to drone technology.
>>139611090
Even with Aquarion people were complaining about what did and did not constitute an "Aquarion" show. So after two shows that were completely different we have settled on what "Aquarion" is and can unequivocally state that one series or another isn't it?
I remember on /m/ someone posted a thread for discussing the reasoning for why the transforming aspect of the Valkyries worked for thrust without any hint of irony in his inquiry. The responses delved seriously into transformation and aerodynamics. Tomy sold transforming robot planes to children. Have a little self-awareness as to why the planes have legs. This is not mature stories for mature audiences like myself.
Plus was the end of Macross. Everything since has been on the level of Starship Girl Yamamoto Yohko. At least Gundam still puts out quality in its franchise, Macross died a pauper's death.
>>139611625
>All of which need to fit together properly. delta doesn't do that.
It's been episode 1. That can only say it hasn't done that by the end of the series.
>>139611625
> Also I saw nothing wrong with the CG bugs
They were a dull as fuck antagonist story-wise and looked like shit in combat.
>All of which need to fit together properly. delta doesn't do that.
Not only did Kawamori explicitly say he was going to try and connect them differently this time, you're judging how elements will fit together when those haven't even all appeared yet.
>>139611723
>Plus was the end of Macross.
You know, I've really never understood what was so amazing about Plus besides it's god-tier animation.
I mean, it visually looks beautiful and the fights are great but everything else about it kinda sucks. The villains are just evil because, the characters are worse cunts than Minmay and the plot goes from being about Top Gun to yandere AI programs. Also, how can Plus be your so called "end of Macross" when it barely has any kind of advancement in the Macross meta narrative and is the outlier in the franchise in terms of story structure
>>139611723
Yamamoto Yohko is good, though. It's also Shinbo as fuck, so I don't know why you're comparing it to Macross.
>>139605598
You should really just admit you're afraid the show is going to become Love Live or K-On or some stupid shit like that
>>139611723
>Seed, 00, AGE, Blood Orphain.
Please anon you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>139611809
For a series that came out 9 years ago I thought they looked great.
There's a phrase I remember "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Instead of going with something that he knows works well no matter what the generation, it feels as though he's changed Macross into something else. also see>>139610960
>>139612057
>Love Live or K-On or some stupid shit like that
It hasn't already?
>>139612059
>For a series that came out 9 years ago I thought they looked great.
It's not about the technological aspect, they just looked bad. Like, Blue Submarine's CG wasn't particularly behind its time either, but when I saw that shit on TV I was already wondering why you'd make an anime like that if it looked so bad.
>>139612059
>Instead of going with something that he knows works well no matter what the generation,
Macross as a franchise, if anything, reflects the generation with each new franchise. Each one is more of a symbol of its times than trying to be iconic. You think 7 could have come out in any time but the 90s? Or that Zero was a complete product of the early 00s
>>139612105
Have you actually watched those respective shows?
Note: Having a group of singers=!Love Live
>>139605598
And you f/a/gs take this bait.
To OP: Cry yourself to sleep and kill yourself. No one cares about your shit and pretentious tastes you fucking newfag.
sage
>>139612059
> Instead of going with something that he knows works well no matter what the generation
Which is what? Describe what exactly it is that all Macross (or all Kawamori shows or whatever you're claiming) have had that Delta's first episode revealed it didn't have.
>>139612105
I don't remember the episode of K-On! where Yui and co went and sang/fought against rampaging mechs while being shot at by other fighters.
>>139612292
>he doesn't remember the episode of K-On! where Yui and co went and sang/fought against rampaging mechs while being shot at by other fighters
![Macross 7 49(DVD) - (61111b52) Central Anime.mkv_snapshot_20.01_[2016.04.04_18.26.50].png](https://i.imgur.com/3YKsaVU.png "Macross 7 49(DVD) - (61111b52) Central Anime.mkv_snapshot_20.01_[2016.04.04_18.26.50].png")
>>139611642
>Aliens that feed on songs learning to sing
I'm not a huge fan of 7 as a whole but I loved this
>>139612250
>And you f/a/gs take this bait.
Hey we ended up making a legit thread out of it
>>139612105
No, but it is a lot like Symphogear and if there's any act to follow for a Macross series, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
>***,*44位/***,*46位 (---,--- pt) [-,---予約] 16/07/22 16/04 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 マクロスΔ 01
>>139611642
This. If you want to whine about magic in a macross, you should whine about Zero. No one does it since it's very underrated.
But seriously, why is she so perfect?
>>139612437
They sell only BD for macross? no dvd?
>>139612533
Because the great hidden truth of this world is that sluts are best girls.
>>139611700
The one thing I'll give is that Aquarion should have more music than Logos did. It's just not the same.
>>139612558
The DVD is probably much lower but who gives a shit about DVD sales these days?
>>139612499
Nobody really talks about Zero in general
>>139612533
It's the hair
>>139612533
Honestly, it's the way her face look.
>>139612437
>people preordering volume 9/8/7 but not 5/3, when they have no idea what content is in any of those yet
I don't understand.
>>139612595
>but who gives a shit about DVD sales these days?
If you can get fujos on board with a series then DVD sales can start to matter. Not that Macross will really fall in to that.
>>139612926
With all those pretty boys, I wouldn't be surprised.
>>139612533
The hair, the face, the chest full of hopes and dreams
>>139612284
1. A coherent plot
2. Good art
3. No idol groups
4. No Idol with a serious case of ADHD
5. Seriousness in battle
6. Good CGI
7. A likable MC
8. Good Valkyrie designs.
The list goes on.
![[Pineapple_Salad]Macross_7_28_(D8AC9935).mkv_snapshot_19.52_[2015.08.25_21.54.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yiFESoz.jpg "[Pineapple_Salad]Macross_7_28_(D8AC9935).mkv_snapshot_19.52_[2015.08.25_21.54.59].jpg")
It always saddens me when people refuse to enjoy Macross 7. So far the vibes I'm getting from Delta are similarly ridiculous and fun, so I'm pretty excited. People need to remember that Macross has always been stupid as shit (see: giant aliens trying to force two people to fuck).
>>139612858
3 and 5 are here too.
>>139613070
because muh mature pro war space opera macross.
>>139613059
I know this is bait, but I still can't let one thing slide. You just implied that Alto was a likable MC.
>>139613070
I rarely see people who even finished 7 let alone liking it.
It really does all come together by the end
>>139610176
>Blocked in my country since leftists have had the way with the internet in the US.
This is why /pol/ exists
>>139610176
I remember watching this show but stopping somewhere. It was close to an episode with a fuckton of snow. Anyone know which episode that might have been?
>>139613270
>>139613059
To add, idol groups were around before and the CG is pretty bad in most of the series overall.
THIS WAS SHI-
>GIRI GIRI EYE
I'll let it pass for now and having Mirage jobbing a few times
>>139613070
I would have enjoyed it more if it was a little less over the top, like no bikers or illegal towns in space. And wait a bit before unleashing the Fire Valkyrie.
Listening to Gigil's song was amazing though.
>>139609770
>Kawamori can't repeat the same trope every time
HAHA
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE GREEN HAIRED GIRL GETTING BTFO
>>139613324
>internet
>not youtube which is a subsidiary of google
>which is a giant multinational influenced by other giant multinationals
>which are supported by right-wing policies
>right wingers opposed leftist moves towards net neutrality
Oh, the ironing.
>>139613576
Basically everything he said is retarded, but Alto's complete shit and I couldn't let that part slide.
http://strawpoll.me/7282020
>>139613730
Is this from the ep 2 screening?
How long until Alto and Sheryl come back and steal the show?
>>139613059
>1. A coherent plot
Episode 1. Thought everything was coherent to me. I don't know what your issue was
>2. Good art
Still not seeing a problem
>3. No idol groups
7
>4. No Idol with a serious case of ADHD
We've had idols who were teases, bitch tsunderes, total sluts and waifs but the genki aspect is bothering you?
>5. Seriousness in battle
We'll see how light the show remains all the way through
>6. Good CGI
I guess I'll agree on this one but I don't care that much
>7. A likable MC
I don't see any reason to hate Hayate yet
>8. Good Valkyrie designs.
What the heck is wrong with the Valk designs? Are you that bothered by forward swept wings? The Battroids have fucking gun-tonfas and the Aerial Knights have moveable thrusters that can split into smaller Valks.
>>139613728
He's not complete shit, he makes a very pretty girl.
>>139613788
It's from the preview
>>139613722
>CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE GREEN HAIRED GIRL GETTING BTFO
Green haired girl isn't in the main triangle though. Also, green haired girl in SDF got a good end in case you forgot
>>139613842
>>3. No idol groups
>7
Evey others macross besides delta too.
>>139612533
SMUG
>>139613762
Voted for Freyja even though I like Mikumo more. Mikumo is already going to be THE star of the show. Meanwhile Freyja will need all of our support to win MCbowl.
>>139613898
>Green haired girl isn't in the main triangle though
doesn't matter
at least one member from both sides of the pretty boys and girls will kick the bucket for DURAMA
>>139613730
The image supports the spoilers some anon posted a few threads ago from the second ep screening.
>>139613722
>CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE GREEN HAIRED GIRL GETTING BTFO
But Veffidas didn't get BTFO
>>139613762
Freyja is a cute but Green is appealing too.
>>139614077
but Ranka and that other bitch from Aquarion did
>>139613762
>Mikumo arm
Why is green best girl?
>>139613725
>youtube
>rightwing
You do know that youtube and google actively censor speech and music that is critical of anything remotely leftists in nature. They use shadow banning, delisting, and outright deletion far more thoroughly than any admin on reddit.
>>139610630
Delta is pretty within the Macross template. When Kawamori really goes off-template, you get shit like Nobunaga.
>>139614274
sexy voice, eats her jellyfish raw
This is the best comedy of the season, my fucking face when the guy just started fucking breakdancing
Picked the fuck up
>>139614330
>Best comedy of the season
>not Mayoiga
>>139614293
I didn't say they don't have left leaning social values; I said they benefit from right leaning laws as do most multinationals like media conglomerates who also espouse left ideas on social issues but support right leaning policies on controlling the internet and economic controls.
Kawamori was never good.
>>139613842
1. Explain the Space nazis sudden entrance then and the whole Aldnoah.Zero aspect to them.
2. Delta's art pails in comparison to previous Macross works, including Frontier.
3.That was a band.
4. Yes. She'ss TOO wound up. And having had a little brother who has this, I'm sick of it.
5. I just can't serious in a battle while singing idols are on the frontlines.
6. Agreed expect it further takes away from the seriousness.
7. He's a pissy ass complainer.
8. They've become TOO advanced looking. I don't mind the forward swept wings. The VF-19 is one of my top favorite Valkiries of all because of that fact. But the Aerial Knight Valkyries don't look anything like a plane and don't look anything resembling the Valkyries of old. I don;t mind the remote Fighter that can slip from then, I did actually find that cool, but it the design I'm having problems with. And the whole gun-tonfas thing, while unique, was a dumb choice. Give me a good ol' gunpod any day.
>>139614790
You just can't stop shitposting, huh?
>>139614790
1. It's the first episode, why do you expect everyone's motives to be explained.
2. I disagree.
3. This is an extremely minor difference.
4. She's cute.
5. You have autism, then. Also, I guess Basara being a rocker instead of an idol makes a difference to you?
6. The CGI was always bad.
7. Not really, he's just a directionless guy. I don't know how you can find him worse than Alto, like the other guy said.
8. I think we'll have to agree to disagree, I think they look good.
![[Coalgirls]_Macross_Frontier_10_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[BEDCCE86].mkv_snapshot_01.06_[2015.10.08_18.56.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xnjugId.jpg "[Coalgirls]_Macross_Frontier_10_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[BEDCCE86].mkv_snapshot_01.06_[2015.10.08_18.56.51].jpg")
>>139613320
>people who never finish 7 will never know the joy of Angel Voice
>>139614790
autism
>>139615117
metamaterials
>>139615117
I wonder that too. How can she be so perfect?
>>139615117
She's a protodeviln
>>139614790
>Explain the Space nazis sudden entrance
They defolded out and attacked.
You can't ask "well who are they" in the first episode when they give us nothing to work with yet. It's like asking what's the deal with the Protodevlin or Vajra when they don't explain it until episodes later. And how are they like Aldnoah.Zero? Because they're knight-themed? Because Aldnoah Zero invented Knights, of course
>3.That was a band.
But also a group. Also need I remind you they all got their own robots that also moved by instruments. However I wasn't referring to Fire Bomber, but the Jamming Birds which this is closer to in concept
>7. He's a pissy ass complainer.
That is literally all Hikaru and Alto was doing in their first episodes. Like at least Hayate had a self-caused reason to complain about things.
>And the whole gun-tonfas thing, while unique, was a dumb choice. Give me a good ol' gunpod any day.
All I'm seeing from this entire answer is "it's different so I don't like it"
>>139615034
1. Because they literally didn't give a reason for being there after showing up out of fucking no where. If they had said something like "Remember we're here to stop Walkyire from interfering with what ever our plan is." or something like that. But all we got was "Go now my knights."
2. it reminds me too much of Love Live and Eureka Seven. Art style I really didn't like in the first place.
3. I do believe there is a major difference between a rock band and an idol group.
4. Maybe, but her personality is what gets on my nerves.
5. A huge difference. But I hated both premises.
6. Not THIS bad. Even Zero had better CGI.
7. At least alto had motovation and direction in his life.
8. Agreed to disagree. I think they look TOO advanced to the point they're starting to get away from the original design.
>>139615723
>Love Live and Eureka Seven
I don't really care about this giant autismfest of an argument, but how exactly do those look alike?
>>139612858
Same reason it happened for G-Reco and IBO, it's Macross and Gundam.
>>139613948
Smugdol kind of makes the first episode enjoyably campy.
>>139614330
>>139605598
I like the song at the end, so it ain't.
And for a voice actress I've never heard a damn thing about, Suzuki Minori is doing a good job.
>>139615907
Why is he so handsome?
I dropped 7 after seeing a picture of it and reading the synopsis.
I've been looking forward to Delta since I loved the original and Frontier. I hope it turns out well.
>>139615063
>people who never finished 7 will never know the joy of Fleet of the Strongest Women
>people who never finished 7 will never know the joy of the best Jenius daughter
>>139615795
Dammit I meant Wake up Girls. Someone mentioned LL earlier and I had it on my mind.
>>139616402
>I dropped 7 after seeing a picture of it and reading the synopsis.
>>139616670
Are this guys from the same race as Freyja?
>>139616812
Obviously.
![[EG]Gurren_Lagann_14_BD(720p_10bit)[7C6A1A8C].mkv_snapshot_13.36_[2015.02.02_20.49.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xODBHHe.jpg "[EG]Gurren_Lagann_14_BD(720p_10bit)[7C6A1A8C].mkv_snapshot_13.36_[2015.02.02_20.49.09].jpg")
Why can't I stop watching the GIRI GIRI EYE sequence
Why can't I stop laughing like a madman when he busts out the fancy footwork
Why is any of this happening
Why do I love it so
Anyone have webm of the moment where Freyja go forward Hayate?
>>139616812
They all have hair tentacles, so yes.
>>139617046
wait... did I see nipples?
>>139617030
>Why do I love it so
I see what you did there.
>>139617149
?
>>139617281
ok just light "petals" in the way. my bad.
