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How long before this show gets too popular and we're not allowed to like it anymore?
>>139570624
the window has came and passed. It's chance of popularity is over.
Its shit, so you're all safe.
>>139570973
Basically this. Little fanservice, no harem, whiny characters, not a lot action that really pulls you in, little comedy.
It doesn't really have a lot of attributes that make it popular besides it being in the realistic fantasy genre.
>>139570624
Far too slow paced for widespread popularity. Too bad we won't see more.
>mobile poster make dumb threads
Everytime.
>>139571300
That's actually a good thing. I wouldn't want it to end up like SAO, NGNL etc etc where 96 percent of /a/ loved and discussed the show while it was airing but as soon as it became too popular it magically was a horrible anime and it wasn't allowed to be discussed anymore.
>>139571377
There should be a weekend waifu or Kantai collection thread somewhere if you look hard enough
>>139571476
I agree, I rather liked Grimgar. But unfortunately this type of anime is in the minority of genres that are popular, so its hard to envision it ever getting really popular.
Didn't it flop?
>>139571476
I like it when a board full of people known to have bad taste dislike something I like, though.
>>139571922
Idk out of all the shows I've scene this season it's gotta be top three at least.
>>139571922
No, it didn't. It did reasonably well, breaking 5k. I believe it was the 2nd or 3rd best selling anime of last season.
Konosuba, of course, was the top selling anime.
Doujins when
>>139570624
It was unrealistically dramatic, slow, sometimes cringy. This will never get popular. The only thing it had that a show needs to get popular is cute girls. It was missing way too much.
>>139572494
I thought it was great? Are you sure you're not just nitpicking the bad stuff? You truly didn't enjoy yourself while watching it?
>>139571922
>Didn't it flop?
It sold ok and the LN sales were significantly boosted, I'd say it was successful.
It wasn't a huge success though, maybe S2 one day if the planets align.
>>139572608
I gave it a serious chance. Watched up to nine episodes. I can get by a generic MC, but this guy felt like the author was trying too hard to make him seem generic. Music was a nice touch, and while I can appreciate the attention to background detail, multiple slideshows of art for several minutes at a time is too much.
And the slow aspect? I think I'm being fair. Where a lot of anime have different characters speak with probably a second or so in between each line of dialogue, Grimgar had about seven seconds in between each line. And generally these lines were short one word responses. There was simple much less content in each episode. Sort of like a normal anime is a sandwich filled with lots of tasty things, Grimgar felt like eating a block of tofu that about halfway in realized it should probably put a condiment on itself to have an actual taste.
>>139572306
I'm sure monogatari is going to sell the most.
>>139570624
Zzzzzzzzzzz
Wasn't there an announcement during yesterday's radio show?
>>139573023
I'm soo bored with monogatori though. i enjoyed this show more.
>>139573097
Nothing was announced for this garbage yesterday.
Momonji mentioned he will probably write a little about Yume's relationship with his Master for BD vol 3.
https://twitter.com/jyumonji_ao/status/716572100455104512
>>139573671
And poor Komatsu. She hasn't even realize how shit Yume and Ranta are treated in the LN.
She's better off with other books for her new Kindle.
Someone post that QUALITY
>>139572924
I really have a hard time believing you dropped it after nine episodes. It's possible but it just doesn't seem likely. If there was some all seeing anime god that could tell how much episodes you viewed I'd wager my next paycheck you didn't drop the anime after nine episodes. Like I said I could be wrong but I'm almost certain I'm not.
>>139573911
Not sure why you can't believe that. If you really have such a hard time, I guess you'd believe me if I said I binge watched it up to current at the time (9 episodes) and never went back to it after that.
Is it really that incomprehensible that someone happened to not like a show?
>>139573671
Ah no wonder it's amazon ranking suddenly spiked last night
>>139573671
Who's the author in this photo?
>grimshit
>already over and sold like shit
>popular
kekimus maximus
>>139571922
>Didn't it flop?
If anything, it was a surprise success hampered only by the fact they couldn't keep stuff in stock from having lowballed publication.
>>139575493
The author was not present. Others were the staffs for the Nico nama event.
>>139575646
Do we even have a photo of the author or is he another Kamachi?
>>139575539
Is rather not have it be popular so it can be discussed on 4chan. You know how 4chan is with anime that's popular no matter how good it is.
>>139575723
I think it's him on the left.
>>139570624
never heard of it
>>139570624
Maybe if it gets a second season?
>>139576051
If it seems underground enough I might be able to make a thread about a specific topic and have a decent discussion without users shit posting about how "uncool" and "overrated" the anime is in the future.
>>139570624
>How long before this show gets too popular
Maybe when every single anon get a job and form a family.
>>139571300
>being in the realistic fantasy genre.
the fuck? Its the same MMO-fantasy genre that every other "fantasy" anime nowadays is.
>>139576458
Noice!!! Except for the part that it's actually not.
>>139576521
except it 100% is.
>skills
>classes
>pointless grinding to get stronger
>bosses
>characters all came from the real world
the game mechanics are all spelled out, just because nobody talks about it doesn't make it a real fantasy universe, especially given how basic the world-building is.
>>139576665
>anime only
There's your problem.
>>139576665
>being this wrong
You fuckwits are why these threads are fucking cancer magnets. Fucking SAO bred a legion of retards like you that can't think past their WoW accounts.
>>139576808
What the Madoka are you talking about? If anything that guys on your side of the argument.
I feel this light novel had to be done.
A bunch of level 1 faggots getting trapped in an mmorpg fantasy world and... getting their asses wrecked by low level critters and goblins. Like it should be.
It flopped both in sales and popularity polls. I don't see how anyone can believe Grimgar is nothing but a dead franchise already.
>>139577207
That's a good thing. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. It means it will be safe for future /a/nnon do discuss on /a/.
>>139577411
Have you considered learning Japanese? This way you won't have problems finding stuff that never ever gets discussed in /a/ and barely soometimes in /jp/.
>>139577207
>>139577411
You guys are pathetic.
>>139577569
Thanks for your opinion.
>>139577509
I like discussing anime on /a/ that's the problem. If I try and discuss any popular anime it's almost always straight shit posting but any time I discuss "underground" "cool" anime it's actually good discussion. That's why I'm afraid of any new anime I like becoming popular. If you've been around 4chan long enough you'll know this to be true. One Punch Man is already starting to become too popular. It's mostly talked about how overrated and dumb it is in its threads despite most of /a/ showing it soo much love during its airing time.
CUTE
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>>139578094
That may be true but certainly not "best girl"
>>139578584
I respect your opinion
>>139578659
Thanks. She's probably second best if that helps. I can't help but love me some tsuntsun.
>>139578659
I especially like the sniw scene when I one hundred percent expected her to start crying but to my surprise she stayed strong. It made me like her character a lot more for some reason.
H I R Y U U
>Back to trickle of LN translation
Fug.
>>139579924
The light novel isn't only a piece of art but a piece of work. I underestimated how interested if be in it until I decided to give it a read over. Despite many of the characters not showing up in an otherwise improvised anime adaptation from manga to light novel I found it to be worthwhile. The hard work was shining bright in the anime. I look forward to more.
>>139580156
>The light novel isn't only a piece of art but a piece of work.
Dude, you don't actually believe this, do you?
It's garbage, just like other LNs that the authors are self-inserting.
>>139580366
I was just spouting nonsense. If you read that whole post its really just random bullshit. I've never read the light novel but I did like the anime though.
>>139580366
How can you tell if they're self inserting though? Just curious?
>>139581279
The writer practically admitted it on Twitter, even to the extent of practicing favoritism among the party characters. A lot of anons are basically counting down to Ranta getting killed off because the author dislikes him.
>>139573746
>Yume and Ranta
??
The fuck
>>139581540
Why would an author write a character they dislike?
>>139581540
I don't mind any of that though? Does that actually bother people? If you're looking that far into the show to the point you know who the writer likes and dislikes you're most likely going to get spoilers no matter what? That why I just usually view the anime first without looking that deep into the writers, animators etc. I kind of ruined Madoka for myself because I did just what I was talking about and found out Inu curry was doing some of the animation.
>>139581540
Sooner better, I hate to see him ends up with Yume.
>>139581702
When they make a whole bunch all at once and then pick favorites and don't want to devote effort into the ones they don't want to deal with anymore. Ranta is apparently a problematic character to write for, either that or the writer spends so much time in Haru's head that Haru's dislike for Ranta has actually influenced the writer's perception.
One caveat is that the writer really, really likes Ranta's VA, so that might be what saves Ranta from being junked even though he's in a perfect position in the LN to die tragically.
>>139581775
I like Ranta and want to see him end up with a good girl. It would be amazing if he ended up with Marry somehow.
>>139581872
>Ranta and Mary
Oh, you sweet summer child, don't read chapter 8 of the LN if you like Mary or think she and Ranta would ever make a decent fit.
>>139581279
- Too many internal monologues by the MC.
- The MC is ore-tsueeee special snowflake.
- Beautiful girl(s) fall in love with the MC,
among others.
Also, this>>139581540
If the authors create the MCs as opposite sex than their own, pretty sure the author will find it hard to self-insert. eg Sasamoto Yuuichi, Hiromu Arakawa etc.>>139581626
>>139581626
It was not part of the Nico event, but the casts were at Animate and Toranoana promoting the BD.
And yes, the 相合傘 pissed me off considering how Yume and Ranta are written in the LNs.
>>139581916
DONT SPOIL ME!!!!
>>139581988
As you wish.
What classes do you guys think would be the best in this anime? For some reason I think ranged would be op provided you were actually good with a bow. Mage seems like it would be the weakest considering the time it takes to cast spells.
>>139582429
Another reason I say ranged is because it seems like in this anime if you hit a Vito's spot on your enemy they die sort of like real life. Even if you weren't good with a bow you could just sneak around and shoot monsters off guard.
>>139582505
>vital spot
>>139582429
Archery is useless against armored opponents though.
>>139582945
The French at Crecy and Agincourt would disagree, but massed archery is a different beast from single so you do have a point.
>>139582429
Either hunter or thief. Any stealth class can either sneak by groups of enemies or slowly distract and take them down one by one.
It seems like the earlier levels of these 2 classes are pretty shit though, so you need a warrior to power level you.
>>139570624
I liked it, but my buddy hated it. He said it was boring and slow, said that erased was 3000x better.
We haven't talked much lately.
>>139573671
I wanna fug both Merii and her VA
>>139583230Garbage
>>139581751
This. Self-insertion does not automatically mean the story is bad. That being said Grimgar doesn't have the kind of plot I'd enjoy in a piece of literature, but if it doesn't get a second season I'll probably just read the LNs
>>139583285
>best girl
>any other than Merii
>>139583042
What about bow? Find glitch spot or shoot from trees?
>>139583431
What's up Momonji?
Also Yume+Komatsu >* that garbage and her boring VA.
>>139578094
>Hal
fucking
>>139583431
Change of pace! Whose your favorite male character?
They probably should have spent a bit more time on the character animation. The backgrounds were very nice though.
>>139583526
>Who's
Im on episode five and I'm so fucking bored. Nothing is fucking happening. I don't know what they even want to do. They hardly say anything of value ever.
>>139583488
>yume
>komatsu
Nothing can fix your shit taste
>>139583526
That's a strawpoll question.
>>139583611
Yours are the shit taste here.
>>139583592
I wouldn't recommend this if you have ADHD. Try Attack on Titan.
>>139583042
Well think about it this way if you are fighting up close with the bow you still get a dagger. That's basically the Thiefs main weapon.
>>139583443
Exploiting glitches in games work, but this anime appears to have high level AI with an exceedingly interactive environment. So trying to find an exploit when you only have one life and are underleveled would probably be too difficult.
Stealth and traps will always be the best kind of warfare. People often criticize such users because they believe it is unfair and underhanded, but that is just the cries of losers.
>>139583658
Nice response. Clearly there's no problem at all with the pacing.
>>139583813
Good. Problem solved.
>>139582994
You can't do turtle formation using knights on horses.
Im six episodes in and nothing has happened. Manato's character fed birds crumbs and then died. We learned nothing about him. A pivotal point in the series had absolutely no impact. There's no plot or objective other than to level up. The fact they're from another world hasn't even mattered.
Pretty much the only reason why I'm watching to the end is to understand how anyone can be so autistic as to defend this show.
>>139570624
Grimgar was hot garbage since day 1, A-1 really dropped the ball with the adaptation. Thankfully they picked it up again with Asterisk Wars S2.
>>139584022
No need to try hard to like it.Its okay.
>>139583977
You can't do it without shields, either. Seen a lot of those in Grimgar?
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 03 [720p].mkv_20160126_013957.223.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6zsYmFi.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 03 [720p].mkv 20160126 013957.223")
>>139584022
>not watching it wrapped in a warm blanket with a hot drink in hand while it rains/snows outside
do you even comfy
>>139584022
They are just tying to survive man, since when has that not been good enough? There is plenty to keep you entertained. Just think of it as a slice of life and watch it that way. Just because there isn't something happening every three seconds like some sort of crazy anime firework show doesn't mean it's a bad anime. They don't know where they are or how they got there the moon is red and they can't remember what basic things like cellphones and watches are. The shows trying to put you in their shoes. You are silos to feel frustrated about these questions and the fact that they don't seem to be making any progress and have no clear goal. If you feel that way the show is succeeding in what it's trying to do. They are just trying to survive and they say it many times in different ways. They literally don't know anything!
>>139584283
Why can't elevens for the life of them write a decent MC? Its either the 50inch length x girth MC that fucks everything on 2 legs with a pussy or the beta self-insert. There's no middle ground, fuck.God that image pisses me off, Haru should've been knee-deep in that shit
>>139584358
That bitch treats men like toys, he's wise to stay away from her.
>>139584358
Everybody says what you're saying but in truth it would be boring if they did it that way. The suspense of wondering which girl the mc will choose it more entertaining. What pisses me off is when the anime ends and they still don't choose.
>>139584451
For all the shit SAO gets that's one thing it did right. You knew for a fact at the end of the show he chose Asuna and there wasn't any mystery involved.
Once you stop having experiences with females vicariously through anime you'll stop giving a shit what the MC does with the female characters.
It's a show about being thrown into an unknown world and surviving, yet all /a/ fucking talks about it "muh harem". It's near fucking infuriating to see someone dislike one of the better shows out there simply because the MC didn't fuck something.
>>139584543
>Once you stop having experiences with females vicariously through anime you'll stop giving a shit what the MC does with the female characters.
I'm more concerned with what the garbage author does with the female characters though, especially not Merry.
![[HorribleSubs]_Hai_to_Gensou_no_Grimgar_-_01_[720p].mkv_snapshot_16.12_[2016.04.02_16.03.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sR9Mz6c.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 01 [720p].mkv snapshot 16.12 [2016.04.02 16.03.56]")
>>139584543
>muh harem
All I care about is stinky Yume after a full day of fighting and Barbara.
>>139584283
The point of a show making you suffer with the characters like this is when they finally do get answers and figure things out and start "winning" it's far more satisfying as you feel you were in on the journey and it's much more rewarding as a whole.
>>139584686
The annons that flip out from just watching this show and not knowing what's going on and what's happening or what the goal is are likely the kind of people who would flip their shit and get themselves killed if such a thing really did happen to them.
>>139573746
What are they doing there?
Also Komatsu a cute
>>139584358
>middle ground
If only Haruhiro could remove his faggotry he'd be just that, some ordinary guy tried hard due to unavoidable circumstance and became a somewhat competent leader.
>>139584897
What kind of newb chooses to be a priest?
>>139584987
It just seems more likely that he would have been Magic and Shihoru would have chosen priest.
>>139581540
>>139581962
Shitmonji might just have wanted to stir up your autism with that twit, I mean it was right after vol 8 andRanta's apparent betrayal
Who would be more satisfying to rape from a bandit's point of view?
I finally get what people mean when they say a fanbase can make a show infuriating to watch.
>>139584763
"They don't like it. Lol, they'd probably die in this fictional world in a situation which would never happen, but not me since I liked the anime."
Jesus christ
I went into this about a few hours ago completely ready to just marathon the whole thing, but reading the mental gymnastics and self-assured superiority of its fans makes it annoying. It's like arguing with people who think SAO is a masterpiece, but worse since you're intelligent enough to get why a mainstream anime like SAO is mediocre, but too ignorant to get why people would justifiably get upset by this show.There are obvious flaws of this anime and you all want to just right it off as "oh that's what it WANTED you to feel".
I can believe the anime is trying to make you frustrated. The anime is a focus on the untalented characters of an rpg setting rather than the Gary Stu of the universe. It's completely understandable. Still though, there are obvious flaws of this anime. Manato died and got played off as the person who held the whole party together. The anime did a very poor job of show casing that. All we got was a short walk in which he fed birds and then stopped a girl from falling.
It's hard to understand how the characters are even friends. I mean this. Why did this group get together in this fashion? Why did the characters shown at the start split off in this fashion? It's really odd how the MC is assuredly getting into a relationship with red hair girl when they've had very little interaction.
It fucking sucks critiquing this anime because it's not flat out bad enough to say it's actually bad and the mediocre parts about character development and drama can be written off as "They're just trying to survive. They don't have the time to grow these relationships. If you were in this position even if you didn't get to know white hair-kun you'd still feel as distraught" because it's true.
>>139585136
Tanking healer is a thing though.
More importantly why did they originally decide to have a manlet like Ranta as their warrior? Haruhiro seemed like a better choice at the time. Not that it matters now that they have Moguzo.
>>139585307
>It's really odd how the MC is assuredly getting into a relationship with red hair girl when they've had very little interaction.
He interacts with Yumeand Rantathe most out of the whole cast.
>>139571300
>no harem
P-P-P-Picked the fuck up as soon as humanly possible
How did I miss that? Now I have something I can watch
>>139585307
Too long didn't read.
>>139585307
It's an alright anime, but that's about it. There's not really anything spectacular or even new about it. The world isn't innovative or nee. There's no new mechanics. Arguing about this show is like trying to argue which generic, highschool battle anime is the best out of bahamut/rakugai/asswar.
>>139585411
>>139583658
Right, and people who find this show boring are the ones with ADHD
mary da bess and will be winnar
>>139585465
Try Attack on Titan? You might like that better?
>>139585484
Fuck off with your garbage Momonji
>>139585486
I take it back, you are the SAO fanbase
>>139585517
Do you even know what this thread is about? It's people like you who make it so we can't post about any anime that happen to be " popular" without a shitstorm derailing the thread no matter how good the anime might be.
>>139585307
A lot of these judgements are plain wrong, but I won't bother with them because most importantly the main point holds:: this anime is nothing extraordinary.
>>139585517
Your just a big fat sheep!
>>139573911
Ha, I dropped it at episode 10. My complaints are about the same. It started out well, I especially liked the episode where they first killed a goblin. The rest of it though, was just tedious and empty. I actually liked those parts where they just panned over pretty art with music. It's kind of like the show just lost any purpose and you're just watching some losers play an RPG.
It's not like it doesn't happen. I dropped Gundam 00 2 eps before the end too. Sometimes a show is just so mediocre or bad you can't muster up the will to watch it to the end. And why should you, its supposed to be entertainment.
When are we going to get Ep 9's insert song?
>>139585422
I think the show could have done a lot better with some actual world building. All they really did was create a bubble in the world for the characters without showing us anything else. An enticing world is the best way to keep someone watching. It's why one piece still fucking goes on and will go on forever, even if every character is annoying.
>this thread
>>139570624
Grimgar is overrated. It is the most boring show this year. The characters are forgettable. It's a waste of time.
>>139585604
Do you?
>How long before this show gets too popular and we're not allowed to like it anymore?
To answer the first part. It won't ever be that popular because of the reasons people have stated in this thread. Anyway how is it fucking derailing? Is it derailing because people want to discuss the merits of cartoons good/bad without having its atrocious fanbase insult any diseenting opinion by saying they have a mental disorder?
I'm sorry, I'll take this as a cue to let the fans dick ride each other over their proclaimed war and peace of anime.
![[HorribleSubs] Haruchika - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_03.46_[2016.01.29_18.14.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DTrEGpO.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Haruchika - 04 [720p].mkv snapshot 03.46 [2016.01.29 18.14.41]")
>>139585286
>Merry's merris
>>139585687
It's a writing style annon it's a certain type of writing style. You aren't supposed to have the answers to the questions you have. You are supposed to be as close to being in the characters shoes as possible and that includes the frustration of not knowing what's happening or what's going on or what the point of all this is on top of the many other questions and problems they face in this world. They are just basically trying to make it through life while enduring the trials this new world presents. If you feel frustrated at the predicament these characters are in its because the show is doing what it's trying to do. When things do go right it makes it far more satisfying. This show or writing style might not be for you but it's certainly not a mistake they overlook when maki g the anime. It was intended to be this way.
>>139585852
>garbage's garbages
Interesting taste tbqdesu
>>139585877
Is that why the characters are logs with clothes?
>>139585877
Hey, I'm a Grimgarfag too, but the lack of world building is literall just because shitmonji has been too busy waifufagging with his Merryshit to care about world building.
>>139585307
>It's hard to understand how the characters are even friends. I mean this. Why did this group get together in this fashion? Why did the characters shown at the start split off in this fashion?
This is explained multiple times in the show. All the competent people turned their own groups and they were the ones not getting chosen by anyone so they formed a group themselves. After that they became somewhat friends through their shared struggles etc.
The show goes out of its way to say they just happened to be thrown together out of necessity, and not out of friendship.
>>139585903
Shit taste from a Yumefag I see
>>139585913
Now you're just trying to make me mad. The emotion the voice actors produced in this anime was amazing to say the least. The characters have depth to them as well. I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
>>139585944
Except >>139584734 and >>139584897 are at least more canon than what you Merryfags could ever hope your shitty shop to be.
>>139585877
It isn't a writing type, it's being lazy. You can build a world from a single characters perspective, they just didn't.
The show just went totally downhill as far as character interactions go after Manato. If this show honestly wanted to be better, it shouldn't have so staunchly stuck to simply being their struggles with dungeon shit. The only thing they explored was red haired guy being a dick, and if anything it just made him out to be a more annoying character. The only time they fought and it was any good was the first goblin fight.
>>139585973
Sure they have depth annnnonn
>>139585989
What show are you watching? Were you need t paying attention to 90 percent of the anime?
>>139585999
Yea they do. For the character not knowing anything about their past which adds to the show might I add I could name many quarks and hobbies and what makes certain characters tick and personality types and what would piss of each of the characters and where the characters like to spend their free time and many more things which is amazing considering how much actual time we spent on each character. You you literally want God to write all the anime you watch?
>>139585987
>this is what Yumefags genuinely believe in
>>139586080
>you even
>>139586080
"Were you even t paying attention" is not a rebuttal to what I said, it's you admitting you can't come up with anything against what I've said.
>>139585973
I'd just say the characters feel like actual humans. There weren't much character development to consider them as "having depth".
>>139585989
>character interactions
They didn't go either downhill or uphill. But of course you claimed Haru and Yume barely interacted when they actually interact the most among the cast so I wouldn't take your opinion on that seriously.
>>139586080
One is a hot-head. One guy likes to cook and is otherwise a log. The mc is a log. White hair is a shy log. Red is a log who wants to fuck the mc.
Mary's backstory was also incredibly predictable and cookiecutter. It was pretty much exactly Kirito's from sword art.
>>139586080
And again I'm not saying this is the best anime ever, I'm just saying it's not "shit" by a reviewers point of view. If that's your opinion that's fine but I'm just making it clear that I don't agree with what you are saying and I don't think I'm the minority.
>>139586153
I don't get this log meme. If you want to say bland, then just say it
>>139586140
>But of course you claimed Haru and Yume barely interacted
I didn't, and by downhill I mean they were just boring. The show is just painfully mediocre.
>>139586094
>Merryfag still mad their waifu isn't as emotionally close to Haru as Yume is
Stay buttmad forever Merryfags.
>>139586153
The guy that likes to cook is also shy but can be the most scary when he's angry. He also like to do detailed work which is stated. He becomes comfortable around the group making rebuttals toward his team which he wouldn't do towards the beginning. I learned all this from just six episodes. Not to mention the meny other things about all the other characters. Were you even watching the show?
>>139586241
We're still going to win the Harubowl. Enjoy your complementary Ranta
>>139586270
To be honest the changes are small and subtle enough to slip a few people'sattention
I just don't get his overall point, I never saw Grimgarfags never claimed their favorite show is the masterpiece of our time or anything. It just has certain charms and a lot but not too many people dig those.
>>139586270
Not only that but he likes to do woodwork and was probably a pilot before all this happened. I already know more about this side character than most main characters in anime.
>>139586306
Manato and Choco won the Haruhirob owl ages ago. Your point ismoot
>Yume lied collapsed on her side and was putting pressure on her neck. Blood. There is blood. Her neck was injured. It was bleeding, extremely so. Yume had difficulty breathing, her breaths becoming shallow and elaborated.
This is a lie. Please stop it. It's a joke, right? What the hell. Someone, please say this isn't real. Please. I'm begging you, say it's not real. It can't be. It's all a lie. It can't be real. Right? I mean, this is just weird.
"Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!"
>>139586373
>Manato
But you can't fuck ashes, anon
>>139586306
>We're still going to win the Harubowl
Go suck your shitmonji's waifufagging cock. Merry was a mistake.
Gagging deepthroat!
Yume's a real trooper like that.
>>139570624
I only have one episode left and the show was mostly shit. Also I don't remember enjoying shit ever being forbidden.
>>139586420
>Grimgar of ash and fantasy
I'd say Haru mainly fucks ashes and once in a while fantasies.
>>139585286
Shihoru has the best tiddies so that's a contender, but Yume is the best looking and would probably be the most fun to watch struggle as you rape her, based on personality. I'm gonna have to go with Yume.
>>139586367
What depth
>>139586563
>Yume
>implying you could
What if Grimgar was one of my favorite anime airing this season
>>139586603
I couldn't no, but I'm not a bandit.
>>139586615
Then you have solid taste.
>>139586603
Which Grimgar has the best core strength?
Haru and Yume with their crazy acrobatic thief/hunter maneuvers are strong contenders, Ranta doesn't seem too bad himself, and Moguzo is just really strong overall.
I'd go withBarbara-sensei
>>139586479
Why do you do that? Admit you like the show but call it shit are you trying to please the "cool" annon? From a reviewers standpoint this show isn't bad by any means. I've watched people defend Sekko Boys as if there life depended on it because they enjoyed the anime. Im not going to let this anime which I actually liked which is rare these days to be talked bad about with no arguments whatsoever.
What is wrong with Yume's breasts. >>139585286 Here she looks almost flat but she has Shihoru-tier tits in this one >>139586603
>>139586696
I'm not that guy, but shit or not shit is entirely subjective, so is like and dislike.
You can like something you think is shit just like you can dislike something you think isn't shit. I don't see any discrepancy here.
>>139586696
>Defending your favorite anime on /a/
You're fighting an uphill battle
You will never rape Yume and not fear her telling anyone else because she doesn't want to destroy the group.
;_;
>>139586603
date rape drugs
or "potion of sleep" or whatever
>>139586698
Pads.
I don't know, Haru had first hand experience and he once remarked Yume isn't actually flat. She is not too big either.
>>139586743
*you're favorite anime
You have one job. ONE.
>>139586749
>>139586751
>>139586641
Posting superior rape scenario
>>139586804
nice meme
>>139586736
The fact is you can find character development in this show. The fighting animations are smooth. The voice acting is amazing (probably the best part of the show in my opinion) the emotions the voice actors put off seem so realistic and raw. I don't think anybody's complaining about the character designs? These things on top of others are far more than a lot of other anime can claim to have.
>>139586696
Watching bad shows makes you enjoy the good ones even more.
Watched the niconico version and noticed they made some changes. They removed the scene where Ranta suddenly had his helmet on during his encounter with Datesport, cut out part where Yume interrupts Haru monologue resulting in less of Yume ass screentime and the line scene, where it is properly animated and no more green key frame storyboard style scene.
There's probably more but those are the things that I noticed in the niconico stream compared to the TV broadcast.
>>139586736
>shit or not shit is entirely subjective
That utter lack of standard.
>>139586855
>I don't think anybody's complaining about the character designs?
I really liked how realistic their gear looked. It wasn't just a plain overcoat and some leather/plate. Its easy to see where their items are stored too. Seems like most anime characters nowadays have pockets expanding interdimensions.
>>139586883
Teach me about standard and enlighten me why 99% of you're favorite shows aren't actually badly animated, terribly written and directed in a complete brain-dead manner, o animation guru-sempai.
Get over it, every anime is substandard. Whether you find it shit or not depends on your own shit taste. That's where the subjectivity comes from: because seeing impartially and objectively everything is already shit.
You and your bandit buddies will never come across Shihoru sleeping in the forest.
Why even brigand?
>>139586957
>admits that there are standards for writing, animation and directing
>goes to say that quality is a subjective thing
ayy
>>139587053
>ayy
Holy shit fuck off back to tumblr
>>139586942
You're right, the fasion was on point.
>>139587031
Usual shihoru eyes are a lot smaller, I like this one better.
>>139587053
>quality is a subjective thing
Did I say anything about that?
Finding the shit you find less shitty among objective shits is a highly opinionated activity, because it's already past the clear boundary of good and shit.
I felt the beginning of Grimgar was pretty slow in the episodes prior to Manato's death. After that, the pacing seemed alright. Story and dramawise, there was progress
I liked the characters. Even if Manato died early, I'm still nominating him as best boy. Based on his conversations with Haru, we could implicitly assume some things about his character prior to being thrown into Grimgar, like how it seemed like he struggled to make friends or how he was incompetent (his Priest-sensei kept shitting on him for sucking as a priest). We didn't get a lot of Manato, but I'd argue that his character had more depth than some of the others
I wish we had gotten more Shihoru. Despite being a survivor, she didn't get a lot of screen time. We only know her as the big tit shy girl who possibly had a small crush on the leader. However, it was nice to see her come out of her shell towards the end of the series
If this show was more action oriented and had better character development then it would be a lot better than it is now. It just seemed very forced when the leader of the group got killed off all of a sudden and everyone in the group was so depressed even though they've only known him for a short while.
>>139587239
His sensei was just the strict professor stereotype. He actually commented on how Manato was a bright one.
Manato was most likely a Hikaru-is-not-on-earth-kind of womanizer without real friends examplary student ikemen before Grimgar.
>>139587239
>Shihoru
Why was she even there?
>>139587369
To cockblock Yume when it matters and to makedirty analjoke
>>139587271
They were basically all lost and looked up to him as their leader and certain characters formed a stronger bond with him and you can tell who those characters are by the way they take his death. If you noticed some characters took he's death far worse than others while other character focused on comforting others not to meantion almost anybody is going to cry when a friend dies. Nothing seems unrealistic about that to me especially there hopes of survival without him pretty much seemed slim to none, they realized they were probably fucked.
>>139587271
I'd call it incompetence considering that they were having fucking lunch in the middle of enemy territory. They're a new team with little battle experience and common sense. Hell, 5 of the members couldn't function without the constant guidance from Manato. They're a fresh new group that made plenty of mistakes. I'd say the events leading to Manato's death was to be expected. Manato was the one keeping the team together and organized. Remember when Haru was spilling spaghetti when Manato was on his deathbed? The only way the group could function in this new world was to rely on Manato. His death would naturally cause everyone to panic. No one knows what the fuck to do without him
>>139587418
And again a lot of the depression afterwords was them thinking they weren't going to make it in this world without him. He basically was their hope.
>>139585396
Yeah, you'll be in for a massive disappointment.
Forced romance everywhere, at least try the VN, it's far better.
>>139587418
They are also amnesiac and practically the first companions in life to each other, of course it hit them harder than for example you and some random acquaintance's death.
>>139587369
>why are sorcerers good?
Fixed that for you. Now you can see how retarded you sound.
>>139587470
Are there any established romantic relationships thus far? All I know is a relationship between Merry and the paladin is never going to happen. Merry + Haru is the strongest option. But Yume + Haru is also possible? I'm not so sure about Ranta. And anyone Shihoru likes gets a death flag apparently
>>139587593
>Shihoru
>making sorcerers look anything but lame and pointless
Fixed that for you. Now you can see how retarded you sound.
>>139586367
>pilot
Probably not, Moguzo's reaction is kind of dim and he doesn't seem much older than the others.
My take on the planeand maybe Kikkawa's AUSTRALIAwas they were probably on a school trip when they were abducted, not necessarily while on plane though.
>>139587662
Her magic missiles and shadow snares were pretty helpful
>>139587690
She also had a sleep spell.
>>139570624
Oh wow you guys are actually more autistic than the fairy tail guy
>>139587600
>Merry-Kuzaku: sunken
>Merry-Haru: shitmonji's waifufagging. Most likely so far
>Yume-Haru: hormoneless affectionso far
>Ranta-Yume: one-sided crush
>Shihoru-Manato: ded
>>139587736
>hormoneless
LN Haru had a raging boner during the hugging scene. He was chill in the animu though.
>>139587461
Put yourself in their shoes. You enter this new world with no memories of who you were before. You're scared and learn you've got to fight monsters to survive. Turns out it's very hard and ur group almost gets destroyed fighting a pair of goblins. You are nearly getting by as is and can't afforded basic necessities but there is one guy in your group who seems to know what he's doing. He's the best fighter out of everyone and you think maybe with him you can somehow make it. He's your leader and everyone respects him. He gets along with everyone and brings order into this otherwise crazy world you have been thrown into. This guy heals you every time you get injured even if it's just a minor cut. You form a friendship with this guy, stronger depending on which character. Now what happens when he dies? Not only does all that go away but now you feel a sense of impending doom. How are you possibly going to make it in this world without this guy? That realization hitting you in the face on top of one of your friends dying. Why wouldn't these characters cry?
![[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 05 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.26_[2016.02.05_17.41.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/h71hXZR.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 05 [720p].mkv snapshot 15.26 [2016.02.05 17.41.06]")
>>139587669
>>139587761
>LN Haru had a raging boner during the hugging scene
What?
>>139587775
Realize most people cry when they lose their job or break up with someone than compare it to this and see if it seems "unrealistic"
Show us where your priorities lie.
http://www.strawpoll.me/7207960
>>139587777
>>139587761
I think they kind of implied it when Haru realized he was inbetween Yume's Yumes and he gasped or made a small remark.
>>139584022
>Manato's character fed birds crumbs and then died. We learned nothing about him.
That's kinda the point of his death. He made himself out to be this faultless leader and everyone just accepted it and even depended on him to fill that role, only to have that robbed from them in an instant, along with any naive illusions they had of their own competence as a party. Which is expanded upon a lot in the second half of the show, as Haru is constantly brooding over how Manato only left him with an idealized image of a leader to chase after.
Sounds like you're just dead set on not appreciating the show no matter what, though, so you really should just drop it.
>>139587844
I straight-up did not mean to post that image. Sorry, mod-chan.
>>139587844
Apparently, Ranta becomes best boy because of what he did for Merry in vol 8
>>139587777
> But it felt good. Her body was soft and warm…
>No. No, no, no. He couldn’t let his mind wander there. It would get awkward. Maybe even more than awkward. And naturally, Yume wasn’t thinking anything like that. Of course Haruhiro wasn’t either. They were teammates. Friends. Just friends.
>“Haru.”
>“Y-y-yes?” Hearing her say his name was so unexpected and flustered him so much, he only barely squeaked out his reply. He kicked himself for getting so panicked.
>“Yume…” she continued.
>“Yes?”
>“Yume will try her best,” she said, hugging Haruhiro even more tightly.
>And though it Haruhiro admitted that it felt good, at the same time he wished she wouldn’t do that. Wait. Where was she going to “try her best”?
[...]
>He drew her in closer, hugging her tight and with all his strength, until a sigh escaped her lips. He wanted to tell her to quit it, since he was hugging her for the sole purpose of encouragement, and yet at the same time, he felt a sort of excitement starting to come over him, threatening to overwhelm him, to make him explode.
>Don’t give in! Don’t lose! He thought to himself. What did it mean to lose anyway? What did it mean to win? He had no idea. He just had a feeling that if he lost here, it would be bad. Really bad.
I cut out the middle part because the post exceeded the limit, but yeah. Not literally a boner but his sexual desire was running wild.
>>139587900
Anything similar with Merry or Shihoru?
>>139588004
Nope.
He's really awkward with Mary. He thinks she's just too beautiful, and seems to somehow recognize this as a dangerous flag? He's wary around her.
>>139587897
>Ranta
>pretends to be narcissistic to make up for his insecurities
>ends up just being an obnoxious asshole
>best boy
The readers can appreciate his act, but his character is going to be bottom of the barrel until he accepts himself or grows up.
>>139588047
And with Shihoru he only thinks about Manato when he thinks about her. He doesn't really see her. I guess it makes sense because she's so withdrawn. We only occasionally here her say put downs about Ranta.
>>139588004
No. He went jelly after witnessing Kuzaku and Merry's private moment, he also once denied possible romantic feelings because muh leadership ethics.
Otherwise he kind of wants to fuck Merry. And as far as I know it's mostly pure non sexual affection between Yume and Haru though he does occasionally lost a few heartbeat because of the yome.
Shihoru became more of a supportive bro in the last two volumes.
>>139587883
>That's kinda the point of his death. He made himself out to be this faultless leader and everyone just accepted it and even depended on him to fill that role, only to have that robbed from them in an instant, along with any naive illusions they had of their own competence as a party. Which is expanded upon a lot in the second half of the show, as Haru is constantly brooding over how Manato only left him with an idealized image of a leader to chase after.
That has nothing to do with forced drama with no substance. This show is mediocre and you're an idiot, calm down.
>>139588198
I agree. Merry was forced drama the main course, Manato's death was just the beginning.
>>139588198
Why do you do what you do annon? Just admit you liked it.
>>139587883
You know how people complain when a character has absolutely no development and then they get an entire episode where we find out their backstory, their ambitions, their love interest and then in the next episode or at the end of that episode the character dies?
Yeah, that happened except it was even worse.
>>139588004
No, but Yume got hugged hard. Again.
Hugging Yume is Haru's method of regaining sanity. Gotta have something to balance out his Manato andMoguzoghosts
>>139588310
That didn't happen. Manato's real backstory scene was just a conversation with Haru. It didn't even take that long and we only got vague information about his character
Are we really complaining about the character development at episode three? Do you guys even read the things you post?
>>139588235
>friends dying in a world where you die when you are killed
>keeping to yourself as a result, thinking that you were responsible for their deaths
>forced drama
![[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.50_[2016.03.24_22.20.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PmYdjAb.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Boku dake ga Inai Machi - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 13.50 [2016.03.24 22.20.54]")
>>139588451
This is /a/. We also believe 29 year olds can have romantic relationships with 11 year olds
>>139588410
You misunderstand. I'm saying that the author followed the trope (which is bad writing) poorly.
The trope is what I said (i.e making a backstory, focussing on a character arbitrarily and then killing him/her off). In this case the author focused on the character by including some bland and uninteresting shit and then killed him off.
>>139588485
That wasn't even what was wrong.
Mind you, it was even stated that everyone alive for long enough in that shithole of a borderland has dead friends. They never forget that, cherish those around them even more and move on.
Not the case for Merrodramary. She has to be a jerk in response to everyone's goodwills because muh friends are dead I have trauma, and Haru's party wasn't even the first party suffered from her shitty attitude.
>keeping to yourself
More like being incooperative and shitting on people for both being nice (everyone) and being a shit (Ranta) to her.
At least she got better. Except when she's not, because fucking Momonji.
I'm going through the shit in this thread. You're all pretty fucking deluded.
>treat it as a slice of life
I mean, you can critique Erased for failing at being a mystery. It's pretty fucking dumb to say "ignore it and focus on x" when it's obviously lacking in what it's trying to present itself as. It'd be pretty bad deflection to say "Erased is not a mystery" and the same goes for grimgar.
Secondly, the fact you have to wait until about the last third of the anime for any pay-off is legitimately annoying. Phantom world fans aren't free from this criticism so neither are you.
Overall this series is a solid 5.5/10
>>139588561
What's there to misunderstand? You're just talking out of your ass.
Of course any narrative will give extra attention to characters who are about to die. If they didn't, people would just be asking "wait, who was that again?" when the character dies. Despite that, they didn't overdo it like you suggest. They didn't tell us his backstory, his motivation and life goals or his love interest. Upon his death, we feel we barely got to know him, which is exactly what the characters express when they look back at it.
It's like you think you're only allowed to kill off characters if we've slowly been introduced to them over the course of the story and can earnestly mourn their passing, which in itself is cheap and overdone.
>>139588561
I don't think using a trope is inherently a bad thing. You can find all sorts of tropes in anime nowadays. Just because there's a commonly used trope, I wouldn't penalize that anime for using it. Unless of course it's Tropes: the Anime
As for the particular trope you pointed out, perhaps it's because I've seen so many instances of it that I've been numbed, but I don't think the one in Grimgar is something that completely ruins the anime. The "backstory before death" trope is something you see frequently, but it's how you handle the trope that decides the quality and impact of the scene. Sure we got backstory of Manato before his death, but the way it was set up (the minimal explanation of Manato's backstory and relationships prior to his death) didn't make me raise flags for him when he was talking about his past life with Haru. Manato's background is so vague and shrouded in mystery, that I couldn't expect his death in the next episode. I was kind of expecting his backstory to build up more and more as the series progressed, but that obviously wasn't the case. There's no way we could accurately assume that Manato was going to instantly die in the next episode just because we got a few pieces of his character. Sure the trope was used, but you'd only realize it after the fact
The tropes that I don't like are the ones were it's blatantly obvious that it's a trope. Like where a character gets obscene amounts of attention and backstory and we suddenly know his entire past and motivations, only for him to die in the next episode. It's those kinds of tropes that we should look out for and criticize
>>139588844
That was said for the annons that couldn't wrap their head around this type of writing style. Basically to help them cope with the fact that they won't understand what the characters don't understand. It's was also stated the the payoff is greater in the end for viewers who enjoy this style of show which is what makes it worth it in the first place. It was also said this style of writing isn't for everyone and you'd probably fall into this category. Try Attack on Titan.
>>139588987
>try attack on titan
Are you really the same guy that's been replying to everyone with the same schtick? You're really trying hard to make it seem like this is a deep and well-written anime aren't you?
>>139588987
For the record, you should look into what the sunk cost fallacy is. This anime is unexceptional. It's alright to be wrong.
>>139589084
>>139589158
You know, as an actual Grimgarfag I actually thought that guy was false flagging the whole time.
>>139589084
Congratulations you figured it out! I'm not trying to make this anime seem "deep" btw I'm just defending an anime I like from sleez bags like you who come to these thread just to trash talk. Why does it surprise people so much when somebody actually defends an anime they like?
>>139588683
To me it seemed like she was punishing herself to protect future teamamtes. Her old teammate said that after the fight with DateSpots, Merry felt that she was mostly responsible for her friends' deaths by misusing her powers on healing tiny ass scratches. After that experience, she didn't want to establish solid relationships with anyone and seemed like she wanted to be the party member that people just have to deal with instead of being the party member that's friendly with everybody. She wanted to keep things professional.
She didn't seem like a jerk, unless you provoked her like Ranta. She wouldn't take a gift and throw it on the ground like the jerk you're making her out to be. She's the person who would just say thanks and then move on. She was still willing to cooperate with people, but not establish long term friendships with them. It's not like she hated everyone. Hell, she was worried when she thought Haru was going to kick her out of the team for being too closed
>>139589263
You are way too insecure and your anime is mediocre.
>he said legitimate criticism about my favorite anime of the season
>time to patrol a single thread for several hours
>I-I b-bet you like n-naruto
>that'll show him!
>>139589158
I'd probably like it annon. The thing is I usually like at least 98 percent of the anime I watch. A lot of work goes into these shows and I usually enjoy them for what thay are. If you truly want to view a "bad" anime try Soul Eater Not.
>>139589284
Barbara-sensei was right, Haruhiro is an actual cat.
>>139589339
>punishing herself
She was punishing her team, ignoring them when they cooperatively asked about her method, denying any gesture of goodwill from them.
>She didn't seem like a jerk
I don't need to say anything anymore. She was a jerk who got betterfor nowwhether you could see it or not.
>>139589339
>To me it seemed like she was punishing herself to protect future teamamtes. Her old teammate said that after the fight with DateSpots, Merry felt that she was mostly responsible for her friends' deaths by misusing her powers on healing tiny ass scratches. After that experience, she didn't want to establish solid relationships with anyone and seemed like she wanted to be the party member that people just have to deal with instead of being the party member that's friendly with everybody. She wanted to keep things professional
wow what an overused cliche
>>139589339
>She wanted to keep things professional.
*by didn't explain shit and one-shot any cooperation attempt from the team
>>139589455
I actually like Attack on Titan. I was literally recommending it to him.
Is it worth watching? I don't know shit about it.I liked Chaika.
>>139589504
I fucking hate neo/a/
>>139589339
Her attitude used to fucking stink, and she got over it. You should too.
>>139589455
Also the reason I've been in this thread soo long is because I made it. I always stay in threads I make.
>>139589541
Get rid of that apologist attitude holy shit, you are on an anonymous message board. No one gives a shit about such things.
Is Mary into choke play?
This is important.
>>139589604
I was telling you why I've been in this thread for sop long as you were likely wondering why I've been in strictly this thread. I could have just told you to fuck off but that would just cause problems. You are the one with the attitude and you obviously don't like the show. Why are you wasting your time in this thread?
>>139589628
Merry being a typical healslut is into all kinds of play.
>>139589737
>you
I was simply another random guy annoyed by that particular post.
>>139589482
It was pretty obvious what her style of healing was. Even Haru noticed it quickly if he paid a little attention to her. Actually that goes for the rest of the team. Haru didn't even know Mogu's style until he sat down and observed.
Sure she had an unpleasant attitude, but after learning about her backstory and her reasoning behind her actions, I'd say it was all validated. She was unpleasant and uncooperative, but she definitely isn't the ultimate ice queen that everyone is making her out to be
>>139589737
This isn't Reddit. We don't need you blogging like a retard.
>>139589793
That didn't refute any point.
He explicitly asked to confirm. She disregarded it and said a Japanese equivalent of "fuck off". She was still a huge uncooperative cunt with attitude problem.
>>139589763
I'm supposed to know this how? Anyways if it makes you feel better I don't care if you know who I am or not. Don't be a baby about it. I was just answering what I assumed the other annon wanted to know.
>>139589832
>implying I've ever been to Reddit.
How original. annon uses Reddit as an insult.
>>139585286
Unfit yume drawing makes me apathetic. She's supposed to have a toned body.
>>139589793
>justified
Pretty unjustified considering everyone in the borderland has the same burden like it was mentioned some posts above.
Her attitude was as unjustified as Ranta's being a jackass.
>>139589832
Non of what has been posted by me could be considered "blogging" as it has all been related to the topic or replying to another annon. Your post on the other hand contributes nothing to the thread other than attacking someone. That is what's called "shitposting"
How did people feel about Ranta in Grimgar?
I was never annoyed with him because of Tarou, but I have a feeling he was a blood-boiling faggot to most people.
>>139589888
But hey, at least they got the chippai right
>>139589971
As a LNfag I say he's more mellow in the anime. Would party and get into quarrel with.
>>139585696
>this thread
>>139585286
SHE WHORE
>>139585696
One funny thing is that the show was pointing many times at its own problems without reflecting of those in any way whatsoever.
>>139590138
Instances of this? I like the show and am just curious.
>>139590180
When they pointed out at doing nothing but killing goblins to start with.
>>139590138
It's just Nakamura's way of telling Juumonji "You are a fucking faggot"
>>139590210
Psychopath Yume would have made the show much better than it was.
It's particularly sad that out of the 7 party members we get to see, only Ranta and Yume have an actual personality.
>>139590207
It's partly because of they way the show is written. They really want to emphasize that to show you the characters don't really know what they are doing in this world. They do this with many other things making suttle references to their current state and questions about the new world they are in. It's not a mistake of the show at all. They wanted you to relate to these characters as much as possible.
>>139590240
Haru has personality too, but they have to omit it for the most part because he is an insufferable cunt on par with Ranta on the inside.
>>139590260
>subtle
Sry spellcheck is changing words up on me.
>>139589971
Tarou and Ranta are based
>>139590240
>Psychopath Yume
That's no longer Yume. It's only funny in the context of the actual sympathetic and naiive Yume.
>>139589971
Based, should become MC instead of wis fulfillment self-insert MC
Would bros with.
>>139590207
Basically all the problems the characters are experiencing, they want you to feel the same way they do. So if they have questions about the world they are in or they are frustrated about why there is no goal in their daily activities they want you to almost experience the same emotions and wonder the same things as the characters in the show.
>>139590437
The payoff to this style of writing is you almost feel like part of the crew and when thing eventually does start to go right it feels better as you feel like you've worked to get there. This writing style obviously isn't for everyone as many do not have the patience or hate the lack of control they feel watching the anime.
>>139590416
>finding that pathetic hypocrite cunt Haru to be easy to self-insert into.
>>139590260
>It's partly because of they way the show is written
Hint : the writing is no good.
>They really want to emphasize that to show you the characters don't really know what they are doing in this world
Hint : they are doing it in an unsubtle, hamfisted, redundant, slow and dull manner.
>They do this with many other things
Hint : more sins.
>making suttle references to their current state
>subtle
Christ anon, you need to go check the definition for this word.
>It's not a mistake of the show at all
Retard.
>They wanted you to relate to these characters as much as possible
Oh they wanted to alright, like every fucking anime out there written by dimwits for underage idiots, and the result is this unsubtle joke.
>>139590492
>things eventually do
Again my bad.
Are the LNs translated?
And if they are, are they licensed?
Can I lazily read it on BT or do I have to go digging for PDFs?
>>139590506
well the author certainly found it easy
>>139590595
just google literally the first thing niggah
>>139590558
You don't know what you're talking about annon. They want you to feel frustrated at the characters current situation as much as possible. Its meant to make you feel as though you are suffering with the characters as apposed to watching them suffer. If you felt like the show was slow and going nowhere it's because that's how you were meant to feel. Which only counteracts the last argument you made. The writer didn't overlook a problem your fat ass was able to pick up in your moms basement. It was meant to be that way. Stop being a stupid bitch face and watch another anime and stop wasting your time here.
>>139590558
You know what else did the same thing this wreck of an op is saying this show did? Endless eight.
>>139590764
>you've upset the autist too many times
>he's starting to get mad.
>>139590780
Exactly what I had in mind.
/a/ has NEVER been wrong.
>>139590824
Not really. Just calling an annon out for being ignorant.
>implying he knows more about writing anime than a guy who writes anime for a living.
>>139590764
>They want you to feel frustrated at the characters current situation as much as possible
If you were a tad les retarded you'd know to make the difference between the author's intention and his ability to pull it off in a competent manner.
>Its meant to make you feel as though you are suffering with the characters as apposed to watching them suffer
Oh, Grimgar is suffering pretty hard from the "telling instead of showing" syndrome.
>If you felt like the show was slow and going nowhere it's because that's how you were meant to feel
No that's because the stupid characters were trapped into an endless loop of whining and complaining with little to no actual development going with it and little effort at getting less stupid.
>Which only counteracts the last argument you made
You don't know what you're talking about anon.
>It was meant to be that way
Oh it definitely was, and it was plain misguided, innefective and for the most part utterly worthless.
>>139590898
>implying he knows more about writing anime than a guy who writes anime for a living
>you need to write for the anime industry to detect shit writing
You've reached the bottom and yet still dig.
>>139591022
If you truly want to see bad simplistic writing watch Soul Eater Not. I say simplistic because bad and good are a matter of opinion. You're honestly just looking for something to hate. You've made it clear you don't like this anime already.
>>139589284
gif for the old grandpas still living in 2006
>>139591172
>you've made it clear you don't like this anime already
Well gee I wonder why. You just can't accept this show sucks
>>139591022
My whole point was you were meant to feel what the characters were feeling with them. The show was doing that on purpose and it wasn't an accedent which is what's one of you want to believe. I promise you the writers didn't make overlook some huge mistake. If you like it or not is your own business and I could honestly care less.
>>139591229
Tnx for your opinion. You still took time to post in this thread and although you won't admit it I'd wager you finished the anime as well.
>>139591172
>bad and good are a matter of opinion
This simply tells that you have no standard and coming up with some kind of argument is too much effort for your brain.
Am I honestly arguing with everyone else on the board right now?
>>139591474
Obviously you just got here. I've made plenty of great arguments from the begging of this thread up until now.
>>139591542
>beginning
>>139591474
>no standard
Not him but it's bullshit. Good and bad being subjective means everyone has their own standard.
>>139591598
Just like shit writing, shit animation and shit directing are a reality establishing that quality must exist out there, shit opinions and shit standards supporting any of this crap are a thing as well.
>>139591705
Everything you just said now could be considered an opinion.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM
When is that garbage Merry is going to die?
>>139589971
People disliked him at the start but in the end he was quite liked, especially after ep. 11 when he went full hero.
After reading the LN I find him more likable than Haru who has some pretty shitty thoughts.
>>139590506
I think Haru would be really easy to insert yourself into actually.
>>139591940
The anime doesn't properly convey his insecurity, hypocrisy and how petty and bitterly jealous of Ranta he is.
>>139593092
that's because everyone was dumbed down. Merry for instance, In the LN she was cold as fuckin ice
>>139593092
>jealous
Not really. These guys just can't stand each other because they are two sides of the same coin. In essence they are both shits and they know it.
>>139593396
That time Haru kicked Ranta when he was dancing and making everyone else laugh was either that he really hates Ranta or jealousy.
This is basically fantasy .hack
>>139570624
There's this one mistake on your part: shows get hated not because they become popular. /a/ just tends to overhype a lot of (actually pretty) generic manga/LNs and later, when we get their adaptations more people get to know of it and voila, we get more sober opinions on them. That's just it.
>>139582429
>being a carry
Your life is essentially in your parties hands until you level. Better hope you don't get a group of shitters.
>>139593796
Not really. Archers are just as capable and the way the battle system works in this game the archer class can use a dagger as a backup which is basically the thieves main weapon. No too bad considering no life bar but all you need to do is hit a vital spot to kill. It seems like the best bet to be honest. Best mix of attack and stealth.
>>139593947
Archers get escape moves as well which always come in handy.
>>139570624
People already forget about the series.
>>139593947
>game
>battle system
>>139594041
Good. Wouldn't want it getting popular now would we.
>>139594078
I'm on episode ten. Is it not actually a game?
>>139593629
fucked that scene rubbed me the wrong way. Haru is such a cunt sometimes and what a fucking buzzkill. He really needs to learn to banta
>>139594124
>no level
>no stat
>no interface
>not even in-world statsheet
>actual practice and training
They are just abducted to a fantasy world to fight monsters for the shitty native humans for absolute no reason, with their memories wiped to top it
>>139594205
Confirmed?
>>139594124
its a game called grimgar online, and haru is the chosen one. Thats why he can see the line and later on he learns to dual wield daggers, a skill no one in the world of grimgar knows
>>139594231
What is there to be confirmed? Are you by chance mentally retarded?
>>139594205
Because they do have "abilitys" and "Magic"
>>139594269
>magic
>fantasy world
Their "skills" are just, you know, skills that they have to learn and practise?
>>139594260
I don't know annon are you mentally retarded? I asked a simple question. Is it confirmed or are you just spouting bullshit and saying its fact.
>>139594340
Fuck off OP.
>>139594361
Nice argument annon. That takes some work to come up with something like that.
>>139594411
No, really. Fuck off.
>>139594305
They yell out the names of those skills while they do them, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you're wrong.
Marketed to people who liked SAO, suitable for people who liked .hack//SIGN.
Comfy suffering a best.
>>139571300
>realistic
the terms you're looking for are low tier heroes, scrub level, poverty tier, and background characters
>>139594433
Why should I? I'm not going off topic. Why do you care what I say anyways?
>>139594469
That's just Ranta's habit, and even he eventually learned to shut it when the battle becomes serious.
>>139594555
Haru does it too.
>>139594555
I'm pretty sure Mogzo did it as well.
>>139594646
Moguzo yells DOMO (thanks) instead of the actual skill name. It's a habit he picked up during the training. Literally a sort of battlecry.
I don't remember Haru yelling SPIDAH while locking kobolds ever.
>>139594811
I remember him yelling "backstab" at one point.
>>139594179
>Mary struggled to stifle her laughter.
>Hang in there, Mary! Don’t give in; resist! Resist it! How did it come to this? Why did Haruhiro even make this his fight in the first place?
>Suddenly, his urge to laugh faded, and then disappeared entirely. Haruhiro swiftly maneuvered himself behind Ranta and jammed his heel into the back of Ranta’s knee. Ranta, cut off mid hoi, spun on Haruhiro as he returned to his spot at the counter.
Haru was a complete cunt.
>>139594865
new member of the party whose cold as fucken ice about to crack her first smile and he ruins it. Haru truly is a cunt, its like he always as such malice behind his actions as well
Anyways the way the world is set up its not ridiculous to speculate this is all taking place in some sort of virtual reality game for someone who hasn't finished the anime yet unless someone would like to prove that theory wrong by posting something that's proves otherwise. It shouldn't be that hard.
>>139594995
>that
Which volumes have been adapted?
Aside from Ranta being Ranta they don't really yell their skill name nor they are required to.
And yes, Haru mumbled "backstab" after he backstabbed the goblin right after this.
>>139594995
There is a warrior guy named Akira having been in Grimgar for like 30 years ever since he was a teenage like Haru and the group. Hasn't made an appearance in the anime though.
And the monsters (orcs, goblins, kobolds, even undead) are sentinel. There is even one orc called Jambo that was raised by human, but went back to his people and united the different monster races under his flag. And yeah, since you're apparently too dumb to notice, there isn't any game mechanics in this world, no XP, no level, no stats, no nothing.
This is a cookie-cutter fantasy world.
>>139595257
Here is Akira-san. Dude is pretty metal, started out untalented but survived so many battles and life-and-death situations he eventually became the top Crimson Moon soldier.
>>139594995
A part of the plot of Grimgar is that they don't know why the fuck they are there. It's still unknown.
It could be some sort of video game but it seems pretty unlikely unless it's hyper realistic. In my opinion it's more likely that they were transported to a "real" fantasy world.
>>139570624
I didn't like it to begin with. There's zero attempt to seek answers to any of the interesting questions posed by the premise, the pace is glacial and that dark knight dude is so obnoxius holy hell kill him off already.
>>139595392
There are native people born and raised in Grimgar.
>>139595257
>Warrior guy named Akira
How do you know he's not ai? Proof?
>no game mechanics
This whole world reeks of a fantasy rpg. And they use terms like guilds and there are classes for fighters very similar to that of many rpg games
So one again I'm sitting here wondering if you're the actual retard. Are you going to post proof this isn't a virtual reality game or are you just spouting bullshit? If you can post legit proof I'll eat my words.
>>139595564
Yeah, I could, but you'll accuse me of posting moonrunes no one can read anyway, so no fuck off OP, I'm not here to entertain your retarded whim.
>>139595564
I'm not saying it is a virtual reality game that just a theory I have. You seem to be one hundred percent positive it's not which is why I'm asking for proof.
>>139570624
Great thread OP. Been laughing my ass off all night, thanks.
>>139582429
bard motherfucker
>>139595405
I know, that's why I said it seems unlikely that it's a game, but until they solve the mystery I guess we should leave all possibilities open.
>>139595616
All I heard is
>I've got no actual proof so I'm going to dig myself out of this by implying I do have proof but I'm not willing to post it for reasons.
>>139595749
Yes, and apparently you're both deaf and blind and retarded.
Great thread OP. It's fortunate for the Grimgarfags here as a whole that you just watched this shit now and not during it was airing.
And yes, I am not answering shit and instead insulting you completely off-thread for your sin of being a faggot. I'd be ashame if I were born as you.
>>139595749
Why do you need proof it isn't? A world can feel like it is from a fantasy RPG without actually being from one. They use explicit RPG terms in the novel's chapter titles, but that is only in an effort to relate to teens whose only background in fantasy is from video games.
>>139595873
Wow great speech annon. What did that accomplish besides proving my point that you are basically vomiting lies and making them out to be facts. Why do you do the things you do annon?
>>139595929
I dont. I just said the virtual reality thing was a theory of mine I wasn't sure about and sure enough big man on campus posts he's positive this isn't a game and I simply asked for proof? If he's that sure he must have some kind of proof right?
>>139570624
>How long before this show gets too popular
Look at what Dragon Ball, One Piece, Naruto, Sword Art Online, Attack on Titan and One Punch Man have it common, to get a rough idea of what makes shows popular.
Now look for any of these traits in Grimgar.
Exactly, that's why we like it and that's why it's not popular.
>>139596186
And what is that exactly?
>>139596186
Are you trolling? Yea those anime have things in common but they are not the same anime. I could name similarities between Grimgar and those anime you mentioned as well.
>>139596186
Just a bad as the guy who refuses to post any proof to back up his so called facts. You cannot compare multiple anime and say /a/ as a whole likes or dislikes them because of a few similarities.
>>139596287
>>139596411
Did either of you even read what I said? Because it looks like you started rambling before finishing the first sentence.
>>139596471
Just ignore the impertinent OP and just be grateful that we didn't have to deal with that piece of shit at all for the last 3 months.
>>139596471
You're making an incomplete claim. What is so different from Grimgar and the rest of those shows?
>>139596471
I did read your whole post and I even read it agin just now to be sure I didn't miss anything. Guess what? Still the same post and it's just as poorly thought out as the last time I read it. Maybe you should take a look at what you typed in your haste to make some sort of a rational argument then get back to me.
I'm leaving now. I assuming nobody will defend this anime and there only seems to be hate for it in this thread. I'd imagine it's going to snowball into some sort of shit posting ball of nightmares as soon as I leave or hopefully the trolls will leave as nobody is willing to defend the anime from their asinine remarks and this will actually become a productive thread but maybe that's hoping for too much. Anyways it's not my problem anymore. I look forward to making more of these threads in the future. Later...
>>139597141
Don't come back.
>>139596664
Pacing and atmosphere, Grimgar is character driven.
>>139596712
If you didn't spend all of your effort on trying to be as cheeky as possible for the sole purpose of being cheeky, you would've noticed what I meant. The mentioned shows focus on action, battles, and over the top effects, typical shonen anime. Note how I've never called them bad or said /a/ doesn't like them. (It's sad that I have to spell this out, but oh well)
Grimgar on the other hand has none of these features, it's more focused on the small details of the fantasy life, character interaction and relationships. The battles are the center of the characters' lives, not the center of the story. It's an interesting change of pace for someone who's gotten tired and burnt out from generic, fast paced, sensory overload shonen anime.
Note how I didn't say any of the traits I associate with either of these shows make them good or bad. (Again, sad that I have to spell it out for you) Having participated in the Grimgar threads every week, it's fair to say /a/ was mostly fond of it. No, not as a homogenous hivemind (spelling it out again), but as a cornucopia of different people of which the majority who took part in the discussion like it.
>>139597515
You could argue that any of those shows are character driven, probably with the exclusion of OPM which is more theme driven (not that I've seen all those shows, it's just the impression I get).
>>139597621
Every story has character, theme and plot driven elements. SAO had a couple episodes about playing family aswell, but it's popular for entirely different reasons. Just look at anime posts on 9gag or facebook and you know what the broad public celebrates anime for.
Why is the Nanodesu translation so slow?
Someone please call the Index or Oregairu translator
>>139597843
That's not really true. Taking OPM as an example, the show has characters but they really aren't the point of the story being told. The themes are what is important, the characters are in service to that. That really isn't true of SAO or any of the other shows you mentioned.
>>139571922
I thought it was pretty but it didn't really grip me.
As >>139571300 said, nothing much going on.
>>139598111
That's why it doesn't attract that many shitters in comparison to other series.
where is HD mery's ass shot from todays episode? cmooon guys
>>139598085
>Taking OPM as an example, the show has characters but they really aren't the point of the story being told.
Which is exactly, word for word, what I meant. The mentioned "popular" shows aren't (mainly) character driven.
>>139598204
But they are. Why would you watch SAO except for the characters? The themes aren't interesting and it's not like the plot is anything to write home about. Same with that long running shonen stuff, I have to imagine that as the arcs change the reason people keep coming back is because they like the characters.
>>139598047
Do it yourself.
>>139598047
It's slow but constant. I'm ok with that.
I marathoned this yesterday. I just found it at random and really enjoyed it.
I love how fucking messy the battles are and I love the way the characters have to work to be less garbage. I also like how it's 'realistic' without being over the top edgy. Ranta fucking sucks and the finale fight wasn't nearly as good as the goblin fort one but I would love to see more.
I'm not surprised the waifu fags didn't like it though
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 08 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_19.41.png](https://i.imgur.com/Vm7ZAym.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 08 [1080p].mkv snapshot 19.41")
>>139600759
>I'm not surprised the waifu fags didn't like it though
What?
>>139600759
>>139600759
The author Juumonji is the biggest waifufaggot out there.
>>139601021
>>139601123
>not posting the killer
Poor Shihoru didn't get much attention. She got that badass nuke near the end though.
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 05 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_19.56.png](https://i.imgur.com/zpWh0DK.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 05 [1080p].mkv snapshot 19.56")
>>139601427
>>139601491
>yelling his dead buttbro's name while the girl yelling his name
Fucking Haruhomo
Yume is for bro-ing it up not your waifu.
>>139601674
Looking at your bro with lecherous eye with Haru-kun!
>>139601934
Oops, wrong webbum. They were right next to each other in my directory.
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 09 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_07.54.png](https://i.imgur.com/T5ADWq2.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 09 [1080p].mkv snapshot 07.54")
>>139601978
That guy's one horny motherfucker!
>>139602218
I blame the bad influence in his education environment
Will they ever get to the No Life King? And if so how hard will they get their asses destroyed into utter oblivion?
>>139603652
The king is dead, his revival? probably later on, the gang is trying to research something about him after volume 3 I think.
>>139602752
I want Barbara Onee-chan to abuse and bully me.tfw too old to be teased by a tomboy onee-san ;__;
>>139603652
>NLK is literally a neckbeard turned Lich for dwelling his basement for too long
>>139603785
Did they find anything?
>>139606701
I dont know, I only read the novel summaries.Though haru's party get to go to another night only realm and shit. Just google for grimgar summaries
>>139591355
You're the type of person who'd do this I bet. In fact, I know you're this type of person
>Didn't finish it
>blahblahblah you can't accurately critique it since you didn't finish it, muh writing style and pay-off
>finish it
>how can you say you hate it when you finished it?
I finished it and I can honestly say your anime is trash
>>139570624
we? liked it?
>>139594514
Only an OP as autistic as this could make this thread go on so long
>>139600759
>the finale fight wasn't really as good.
Agreed. I don't want to be one of those >in the LN was better! faggots but it's true in this case and it seems they ran out of time and budget to adapt the whole fight with Desso Spotto.
>>139604665
>too oldI'd probably be old enough to tease you, anon-kun.
>>139604665
I want to abuse and bully a level 1 thief with Barbara onee-chan
>>139610154
First, you need to be a phenomenally teacher who can teach level 0 peasants all the tricks and trades to become semi-capable level 1 thieves.
>>139593396
>that scene
>Ranta is fighting for his life, abandoned by his comrades and is forced to survive on his own
>suddenly Haru appears before him
>he wasn't abandoned, they actually came back for him
>he feels a warmth envelope his body as he realizes these people really do care for him
>a spring is added to his step as he more hastily limps to his friend
>his focus on his friend instead of the ground causes him to trip
>but like before, his friend is there to catch him
>he thought his comrades hated him, but he was wrong
>he can't stop the tears from flowing out his eyes
This was probably the 2nd best scene in the series.
>>139584897
Hope you don't mind I adjusted it a little anon.
>>139610957>and then they spent 6 volumes shitting on him before he's viciously betrayed and abandoned again by the very people he came to believe cared for him
>>139611846Level 9: Saving Private Ranta
>>139611992Good luck with that. Bitch boy Kuzaku and cunt-of-the-century Mary poison-pilled that fellowship well. Going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.
>>139610426
As long as I can abuse inexperienced teenagers I'm happy.
>>139612224
>This is what rantafags think.
>>139612288
>desperate greentext defense with nothing to back it upYour waifu a shit, and she set Ranta up even after he saved her asshole from being Grand Central Stationed by orcs and bandits.
>>139570624
no one liks this trash.
>>139612510
>set ranta up
My sides.
>>139611709
>adjusted
Manato isn't a midget.
>>139612587
>this delusionMary says nothing while in captivity, says nothing to Haru when he comes to the rescue about the circumstances and what Ranta had to do to save her from being gangraped, and says nothing to Haru about Ranta saving her at all even after they've made their escape nor has encouraged him to go back and rescue the now-critically wounded Ranta. That, friend-o, is someone being set up. Mary is a spiteful, ingrate whore and Haru will listen to her silence over Ranta's screams because of his own biases.
LNfags only seem to have complain about the thing, why keep bothering with it then?
>>139612976
Nice fan fiction. You need to chill on sucking ranta's dick. The fight happened near the end and next volume probably gonna address that.
>>139612873
Take a look at the original, his proportions were clearly bigger than they should be.
>>139602752
>>139604665
>tfw you will never experience the pleasure of Barbara-san destroying your dick
>>139612984
All I had an issue with was the pacing being off for the amount of episodes they were going to make. Had they paced it more wisely, they wouldn't have had to shortchange the Death Spot fight or had to move the Orc attack to the assumed next season.
>>139613420
Ignore that, if he actually knew shit about what LNfags thought, he must have read the threads. Why would someone having such question read these threads, and vice versa, why would someone already read these threads have to pose such question? You can conclude he is a terrible shitposter with very simple deduction.Actually if he read the threads, he would have already known it isn't true anyway. LNfags have some beefs with some stuffs, but they also admitted many improvements over the source too
>>139613420
I think not adapting Souma's introduction and the Orc attack was a good choice since it would have been extremely hard to do it without rushing and their arcs are relatively self-contained so it's easy to just push them forward. It did cause some people watching the anime to complain about so few things happening since they didn't have that in the middle of Goblin and Kobold suffering.
I didn't like the Death Spoth fight though since it was extremely rushed and it was one of the worst parts of the adaptation. It's clear they ran out of time/budget. It could have really used being 13 eps. instead of just 12.
>>139576665
>skills
People train themselves and their bodies to become more skilled or to learn specific maneuvers. Check out sports at some point, or bartending, or pretty much any competitive market
>classes
you mean the delineation of roles to those best suited for them? Jobs and specializations exist in the real world for a reason
>pointless grinding to get stronger
you mean training? You don't pick up a sword and magically know how to use it, and even when you know how to use it, that doesn't mean you're automatically proficient in combat either. Sword Art Online isn't real, anon
>bosses
You mean monsters that demand respect and authority by virtue of simply being stronger? Wow, that totally isn't realistic at all anon, you're right, sure thing
>characters all came from the real world
The premise is that it's "another world" not a video-game world. I wanted to be nice at first but you're just an ignorant retard
>>139613983
There are BD bonuses for these kinds of thing.
But that whole episode 9 should belong there too.
>>139613983
>I didn't like the Death Spoth fight
Doesn't even qualify as a fight.
>fuck the interactions and the character development and everything else I want to see the cute girls!!!!
literally the cancer killing anime
go watch your cute girl shows and fuck out of the ones not meant for you
>>139612510
>my waifu
>implying its mary
>>139614701
I don't know, Merryfags here have a bad track of falseflagging record, but I guess you're just a Ranta hater.
>>139614701
>backpedaling
You can't hide from us, Maryfag, but by all means try. The thirty pieces of silver you earn betraying your waifu is a more princely prize than her betraying Ranta for free.
How am I supposed to cope with living in a post-Yume world? It's only been a little over a week so far but can already feel the Yume-shaped hole in my heart.
>>139615014
It's only half as big as the hole in her brain, you'll live.
>>139614819
I actually like Ranta moreso than the others, which is why I think the next volume is going to be about saving him.
My top 4 characters so far are Haru, Yume, Ranta and Barbara.
>>139614859
>betraying Ranta
Thats just your own speculation. Just like how I speculate Level 9 novel will have a reason why Mary didn't tell Haru about Ranta right away. Maybe that was Ranta's plan all along.
>>139615014
Ask the faggot author to focus more on her and Ranta than that garbage Merry.
>>139615169
Ranta has enough focus.
>>139581962
this. the biggest evidence of the author self inserting is when the LN turns into the MC's blog
>>139615148
>barbara
is she even relevant in the main story?
>>139616167
Nope, just the occasional infodump.
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 12 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_23.21.png](https://i.imgur.com/dsylo0g.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 12 [1080p].mkv snapshot 23.21")
>>139615169
>garbage Merry
But she's a miracle of the universe.
>>139616224
what a pity, she has a 10/10 design
>>139616253
Anyone can be the miracle of the universe if the author keeps on shoving that garbage.
>>139570624
I liked Grimgar, but having watched it with a group, I can say there's no way it gets popular. It's exciting for about 1/3 of every episode. Of what's left, half of the show is still shots and pans. It's going to be enjoyed by a small niche of more patient people.
>no fucking harem bullshit
>gorgeous artwork
>interesting take on the genre
>mysteries everywhere
>characters actually experience character development
>closure errwer
>thighs
literally perfect
![[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 12 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_15.48.png](https://i.imgur.com/WUIuuOz.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hai to Gensou no Grimgar - 12 [1080p].mkv snapshot 15.48")
>>139616352
So you're saying her being a miracle of the universe is canon, but only because the author wrote her like that? If he wrote her like garbage she'd be the garbage she's actually supposed to be? Am I understanding this right?
>>139571476
Sword Art Online and No Game No Life are actually pretty bad, though. They just cater to people who like online games, cute girls, etc.
Grimgar is/was actually tolerable.
>>139616715
>If he wrote her like garbage
Has the author wrote any girl in this series as garbage?
That guy may be opinionated, but at least he isn't delusional like you.
>>139616715
No, you aren't. She's the kind of garbage only the waifufaggot Juumonji would find a miracle. There are still some who would eat up any kind of shit he churns out though.
>>139616419
>thighs
As expected of Thighura director.
>>139616934
>Has the author wrote any girl in this series as garbage?
Shihoru?
>>139617026
No, he didn't even write Shihoru enough to make her garbage.
>>139594124
As far as I can tell, there are some game-like elements, such as learning special attacks. Except it's set to hardcore survival mode in that you can't see your stats, you have to eat and sleep, it doesn't take many hits to kill you, and death is permanent.
>>139617207
So in other words, a regular fantasy world.
>>139616715
>So you're saying her being a miracle of the universe is canon,
It is cannon to those who like that garbage Merry.
>but only because the author wrote her like that.
Of course. It's not like the characters can write themselves if the author busy waifufaggoting.
You know who were written like garbage?
The two girls who were introduced earlier, and got no development that actually matters for the plot.
Pretty sure Merry was written like shit in vol 08 eas just to give more character development to her and the author self-insert.
Why is Merry a shit?
Merry a best
>>139582429
Something with a Lance and don't fucking fight in closed corridors or small buildings to maintain it advantage
>>139620399
Stop posting garbage.
>>139620500
Cleansing garbage posting with Ranta's useless Zodiakkun!
>>139620399
Gross and skinny, just like Manato. Haru has shit taste alright.
>>139620720
>just like Manato
I'll nuke your excuse of an ass you little faggot
>>139620631
Iirc the kid who voiced Zodiak-kun is the kid that appeared in Komatsu's Latimer Road PV, and he's from the same agency as her. Here hoping he will voice characters older than himself.
>>139620942
Nothing personal but you're husbando a shit.
>>139620631
Its not useless, he just used it on the wrong mob. He needs to use it on casters so they use up all their mana or just go full physical damage even though they are casters.
>>139584041
Yeah whatever you're expecting it's not likely to last. A-1 knows it'll always have the hot licenses to adapt, strong enough marketing pushes and gullible idiots to make sure to praise and buy their shit now so they haven't given a fuck in years kind of like what ended up happening with Kyoani. Just get it out there and get the money either directly from sales or contracts with big game companies. I'd say they've pretty much mastered the bait and switch first couple episodes of anything are alright and the rest are dog shit strategy of marketing now but sometimes you don't even get those first few episodes to spark peoples ridiculous overhyping like with Ace Attorney.
Basically A-1 is the Bandai Namco Games of anime adaptations. Like literally exact same business model and strategies.
>>139621725
It was weird when after all those insults, Ranta didn't have any retorts. Whereas before, he would retort even when people didn't retort.
>>139623056
Ranta was half-dead at that point.
Also I think his demon is some sort of manifestation of his true thoughts.
>>139623147
Is that speculation or was that stated in the novels?
>>139577207
It was pretty much the 2nd best selling show of the season and seems to have a tail for Vol 1 cause Toho keeps adding shit to later packages that ties into stuff from the first set even after the anime wrapped up. Granted we're also talking an insanely low bar where what would be mid to crap tier sales in seasons past is now easily enough to get you in the mix for best seller. Animation Blu-Ray market is kind of dying in Japan though save for some mega hits like Love Live, even Aniplex acknowledges it's the case now and that it's going to be a rough couple years ahead and they're like the biggest and top grossing animation publisher out there.
>>139572306
Given it's tail it's probably going to hit 6-7K for Vol 1 in the end. I still have a hard time thinking of that as particularly outstanding though, especially if it doesn't keep beyond that volume though given the fuck ton of extras that seem to dwarf any other Winter shows it just might. Really BD sales are at least 50% about the extras and whatever discounts they're willing to give.
>>139623250
It was stated, and for your record among the LNfags right in this thread there hasn't been anyone pulling anything out of their asses.
>>139623250
Ranta's Guildmaster told him that the demon a Dread Knight summons is one that closely reflects or resembles the personality of the summoner.
Finally this shit thread has reached the bump limit.
Not even that Yumefags versus Merryfags shitfest was worse than this thread.
>>139623952
They'll be warming up for the next one, I'm sure.
>>139623952
Rantafags vs Harufags > Waifu wars > Grimgar is shit vs Grimgar isn't shit
>>139624189
Not really, this thread is ABSOLUTE KUSO because of the exceptional faggot OP. We've dealed with Grimgar is shit vs isn't shit since forever.
I agree with your ranking though tbqdesu sempai.
>>139624189
>Rantafags vs Harufags
This never happened, it was one lone Rantafag or false flagger trying to start shit and another lone sad faggot replying sometimes. Most Harufags seem to like Ranta so that bait never stuck. Merryfags vs Yumefags and SAOfags taking over in livestream days was the worst shit.
