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Even used toilet paper is better than Lise
>>139514993
You must have some god-tier used toilet paper then anon.
>>139514965
Good taste.
So what are we gona do today? Pretend we are watching episode 13?
>>139515120
The same thing we do everyday anon.
>>139515120
Sounds like a plan!
>>139515151
But that is haram anon.
>>139515120
I'm just going to worship Katia
>>139515151
>following this picture, Lise was immediately directed to room 3 on the left where she'd spend the rest of her birthday eating cream cookies
that's not kneesocks
>>139514965
Fucking niggers! Make the new thread before we go to archive land!
>>139515199
That is also haram
Anett is the only way to Paradise.
>>139515210
You mean getting creampied by hundreds of men
>>139514965
Stasimouto a cute.
>>139515151
>>139515058
>>139515018
>>139515007
>>139514998
>>139514965
>not being a Beatofag.
>>139515240
>>>>>>>>>>>
I guess I deserved it for trying to be more subtle than three nukes detonating in sequence on /a/.
>>139515280
>not being both
>>139515231
Last post on last thread was
04:10:07
With the word panic
This thread was made on 04:10:07
>>139515278
>genuine sweet smile of happiness
>>139514965
>despair-filled smile of madness
How do we fix her
>>139515280
Beato is a good second
>>139515409
Just another stasi trick
Dont get tricked.
>>139515452
More of Beato-san for me!
>>139515581
I'd sample Iris
>>139515452
>http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/character04.html
>click her hand
>I-I don't want to be touched...
>touch her crotch enough
>...I understand.
>>139515597
The stasi trained her good.
>>139515433
Give her a brother who lives her and appreciates everything she's done for him but shows zero curiosity for the specifics of what she has actually done
>>139515433
>How do we fix her
We dress up as Theo and head-pat her until she falls asleep and has nice dreams
>>139515597
A lot of dudes touched her in that region
>>139515581
Why is Beatrix always trying to make her hips look bigger when she's around Iris? Is it a dominance thing, or is she just insecure?
>>139515161
Well How will episode 13 be? Will we follow the story of Katia and Theo?
Will we be following the story of a NVA rifleman on the Western frontlines?
A-10 getting the whole episode and doing nothing but shooting beta?
>>139515597
>touch her mouth
>mouths aren't just for talking you know. They're also for ki~ssing:^)
>>139515597
Thats pretty fucked
>>139515677
>brother would often pet me.. he would always tell me that I'm cute!
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.11_[2016.03.27_22.31.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dBQpwKF.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 08.11 [2016.03.27 22.31.59]")
>>139515433
>How do we fix her
She'd honestly be more easy to fix than Beatrix.
>>139514965
Picked these up from Hiroki (SM's author) twitter. Basically, his character analyses:
アイリスディーナについて。アイリスディーナはメインヒロインのひとりとして、「主人公を導く存在」として考えられました。また、僕なりの「理想の指揮官像のひとつ」を投影しています。ただ、おかげであまりに完璧すぎて、テオドールには苦労させてしまったと思っています（汗）。
Irisdina is one of the main heroines and acts as a guide to the other characters. I projected my image of the "ideal commander [when writing her]". I had the same struggle as Theodor, [Iris] is simply too perfect (sweat).
→ >Irisdina Bernhard
→ Perfect Heroine.
→ Hiroki's self-insertion character.
→ A wish-fulfillment character associated with self-insertion undisguised representation of the author; as "a ludicrously empowered author proxy".
→ Cliche kuudere stereotype with huge boobs,
→ A plot device to develop the MC.
→ A plot device that motivates the MC.
→ MC's main love interest.
→ She becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (MC) to achieve her rescue.
→ Boring and bland.
→ Who throughout the course of the anime accumulated a whopping 8 minutes of screen time.(Anime)
→ With no great TSF's battle scenes.
→ With no great TSF's action scenes
→ Not only that, but there's zero character development.
→ She's a generic waifushit being an extremely overrated and overvalued character by cause of autistic retards and waifufags.
→ Irisdina is literally the worst character in Muv-Luv Franchise.
>>139515741
24 minutes of grappler-kun trying, and failing, to kill anything
>>139515769
Yes we saw it last thread. Could you not use literal meme-tier arrows and just use the memearrow though, and get rid of the doublespace so your shitpost looks smaller?
>>139515813
Dont bully Grappler.
>>139515769
>>139515757
>Lise-waiting-for-her-next-group-of-twenty-men-as-she-thinks-of-oniichan-and-hopes-hes-okay.jpg
>>139515860
>Forgetting to remove name
You are the worst shitposter I have seen.
Also Samefag
>>139515870
Fuckin hell rest in peace you goddamn angel extraverse when
>>139515870
>twenty
Make that twenty thousand
>>139515741
>Will we be following the story of a NVA rifleman on the Western frontlines?
>A-10 getting the whole episode and doing nothing but shooting beta?
I feel like doing both of these things would be a good idea, but combining them probably and having time for some decent d'aww and/or lewd might require episode 14 as well.
I know; Season 2 can be the Pit Masters!
>>139515901
inb4 comment about you being Polish or accusing you of being a bunch of random MAL and wiki posters no one cares about.
>>139515757
>Lise painted that table with cum dripping out of her loose vagina
>>139515962
Not all at once though.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.51_[2016.03.06_16.15.50].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/t1BcPcV.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 09 [720p].mkv snapshot 02.51 [2016.03.06 16.15.50]")
I think it's been said before, but Lisefags, Katiafags, and Beatrixfags will be the last ones standing in these Schwarzesmarken threads. Lise and Beatrix may not have won in the LN/Anime, but they did win our hearts.
>>139515991
Oh well.Mfw I want to shoop in absolutely haram and halal on every picture I feel it would it.
Or am I going too far?
>>139516075
>Lise and Beatrix may not have won in the LN/Anime, but they did win our hearts.
Yeah, I think having your girl get a bad end makes it harder to let go.
>>139515280
I read that as beating a Beatofag.
>>139516075
>all the worst girls
>>139516075
Lise and Beatrix are stuck with canonical bad ends, and not the bittersweet type either. The feeling of empty anger lasts longer than the warm glow of satisfaction.
>>139516278
Well, Best Girl is obvious.
Posting best girls
>>139516473
Threesome when, and not with Theodor?
>>139516493
Withthe Master
>>139516493
>not with Theodor
>>139515716
No clue.
Maybe it is a breeding thing?
>>139516075
Well it is hard having such good taste~
>>139516521
If Lise survived she could have protected his smile.You killed your guardian angel Theo no wonder shit only got worse
>>139516213
>>139516292
It's not just that they lost, it's that they were losing from the start, suffering the most, then at the very end, lost in the worst ways possible without ever actually getting any payoff or sympathy.
Another thing that makes it even worse is that their character stories are never explained properly. When Beatrix throws out Jurgen, both the audience and the characters in story are basically drawing a complete blank (it would've been nice if Theo had demanded an explanation over this).
>>139516738
>Good Taste
>Not good strategy tho
>>139516573
What Im doing is calling a spade a spade.
What you are doing is shitposting and pretty much upvoting your own shitpost.
>>139516825
>not good strategy
Nah, barring intelligencelike ACTUALLY DEVELOPING COUNTERMEASURES HOLY SHIT LASERS ARE NOT INVINCIBLE WHY THE FUCK ARE MECHAS A THING EVEN THEY'RE A WASTE OF RESOURCES, her strategy would be a good delaying tactic.
>>139515991
Can we stop bringing that cancer up?
The threads deserve better than that.
>>139517036
I can't understand why they haven't designed tanks with bigger guns (152mm) or started pumping out BMPs with 57mm cannons.
Or fuck me, use some bigger artillery.
>>139516814
Theo is extremely ruthless. He doesn't care about sob stories. If you are his enemy, he won't hesitate to kill you. Even anime Beatrix's death was kind of senseless when you see that he'd pretty much fucked her ability to fight back. Takeru or Hibiki wouldn't of likely stabbed the cockpit at that point of the fight, but Theo did.
Irregardless of his moral ambiguity, he's a horrible older brother. He didn't even track Axmann down and kick his ass after Lise told him about what he did to her.
>>139517101
The authors dont know what they are doing.
>pic related.
And im pretty sure they will give the BETA new superpowers to render your proposal moot or some kind of handwaveium.
>>139517101
Muv-luv has some pretty cool shit, but its warfare makes about as much sense as the tactics seen in star wars movies. Its more of a backdrop for the drama.
>>139517165
>caring about used goods who manipulated you, tortured your friends for fun and killed the best girl who gave you a boob hug
Suzy was right
>>139516948
tsk, tsk, tsk, speak the truth is a shitposting.
Do You have 5 Years of age?
>>139517036
ALM
>>139517165
>he won't hesitate to kill you
Disregarding the fact that the only reason he has the ability to kill anything is due to the little sister whose sob story he ignored?
>>139514965
Is katiabullying still allowed?
>>139517417
Considering the Stasi and the DDR is gone.
Yes
>>139517165
I think that's a good thing. Apparently, in the LNs, Theo was the only 666th member who didn't feel guilty over killing people.
>>139517165
Theo is a prick.
Fuck him.
>>139516814
>(it would've been nice if Theo had demanded an explanation over this
That was kind of weird. You'd expect Theo to stop and go "Wait, wait, what do you mean BERNHARD?!" but it's like he was completely un-phased by everything.
>>139517709
That was the plan
>>139517818
It's always frustrating in an anime/book/movie/show/whatever when you got a decent idea of what's up while the protagonist knows nothing and is completely uninterested in finding out.
>>139515433
A 9am to the brain
>>139517944
I really like this fanart.
>>139517874
>Theo got AIDS from fucking that
>>139517366
>>139517682
Both brother and sister were messed up pretty bad by their experience. If their roles were reversed Theo would have probably gone straight to master mode.
>>139518193
And not An Incredibly Delicious Sylvia, either. Actual HIV.
>>139518257
Heavenly imouto vagina?
>>139518193
He deserved it
>>139518257
For all the hate Sylwia gets from other anons she is much cleaner than Lise on the virtue that only a handful of dudes dicked her as opposed to Lise who had every penis in the Warsaw Pact inside of her
>>139515769
I will buy and play the VN hopefully to see a good Iris end.
>>139518321
How many penises would you say are in the Warsaw Pact? Considering she only had three years to take all those dicks... wow.
big ass
>>139518257
I wonder if Lise orders girls to be raped because she knows firsthand how horrid it feels
>>139518402
Every guy in the stasi, I won't be surprised if part of graduating is a rite where the dude cums inside Lise
Every politician and high-brow in Germany, not just the DDR
Every enlisted soldier and officer in the DDR, minus Theo initially
All of their friends had their fair share of fun
A few Westerners that slipped into the cracks
Polish troops (probably the same dudes who dicked Sylwia and more)
Hohol troops, Balkan troops, Baltic troops and Central Asian troops
Russians who were cut off from the Eastern main force
Refugees and homeless dudes
>>139518402
More like one year. Half a year was spent with the border guard (because Axmann loves irony) and the remainder with Beatrix.
>>139518705
I can't decide if I should hate Axmann more for doing this for more or less the lulz or Theo more for not giving a shit and not trying to comfort her.
>>139518705
Well, 3 years * 365 days/year * 24 hours per day...
She has slightly more than twenty-six thousand hours to take dicks, minus time to sleep.
How many dicks can she average in one hour?
>>139518842
Probably Axmann.
He fucked over Beatrix and Iris too.
>>139518937
>How many dicks can she average in one hour?
A lot
>>139518978
But Axman is consistently hilarious.
>Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2
Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Axmann told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.
She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."
She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force.
So with Imouto already undergoing training, if they took in Theodore as well, there would be a risk of them meeting, thus spoiling the plan to use Lise. They let him run loose to have a hold on Lise. Not to mention that if Oni-chan knew Lise was in with the Stasi, he would know who screwed him over as well, since he always thought she was dead.
She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.
Theodore managed to join the army after getting tortured, the NVA and Stasi are political rivals, so they couldn't really touch him without an excuse. That's why they had to send Lise in to get Irisdine.
After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.
Thank you, relvierting, for all the translation work you are helping us with!
>>139518937
>time to sleep
The foggy state of mind that accompanies mindbreak substitutes for sleep anon.
>>139518842
Axmann was doing his job - well - by ruining Lise.
Theo utterly failed to do his job as an Onii-chan by not letting her confide in him.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_01.33_[2016.04.02_09.36.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/li1sJ17.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 01.33 [2016.04.02 09.36.02]")
>>139518842
I dislike Theo for brutally depriving the world of semen demons. I think he's killed more cute girls than the majority of mecha protagonist. Certainly the biggest killer of cute/hot girls in Muv-Luv.
>>139519054
>Hey Lise, why are you hesitating with that baby. It's seen too much; you wouldn't want it telling any of our little secrets to the rest of the world, would you?
>>139519037
what are they doing?
>>139519132
You know what I like this explanation
I was wondering why I hated Theo more than Axmann when Axmann is roughly eighty times worse than the entirety of the SS.
Axmann is supposed to be the smooth sadist fuck who's really into his torture job.
Theo is just a massive faggot.
>>139519130
>still no sperm edit
>>139519186
>pretending to be pure
What if I told you Theo saw the video of you riding fat politician cock and that's why he doesn't care about you
>>139519186
>when you tell Lise it's your first time
>>139519214
>Theo
You can't self insert as him, since he's not a one-dimensional/wish-fulfilment beta faggot, And definitely not pandering with him being good looking with a real human being having failures and successes, being inconstant, confused, selfish, contradictory, inconsistent and complex, and like all humans, he fails and makes mistakes.
He's very different and clearly not the same as those beta faggots MCs found in Light Novels, Mangas, Visual Novels and Animes where the MC got a good looks, a calculating mind, thoughtful, intelligent, empathetic, sense of humor and a cool guy.
Definitely a NON-wish-fulfilment, and not pandering, and cannot be self inserted, since he's not a beta faggot (based on /a/, shounentards or shoujofags said).
Much refreshing for you who hates all those beta faggots MCs found in Light Novels, Mangas, Visual Novels and Animes or forced drama, triangle love, romcom, SOL, shounen, shoujo, harem, ecchi and chinese cartoon.
>>139519265
>What if I told you Theo saw the video of you riding fat politician cock and that's why he doesn't care about you
What if I told you Axman gave Theo the Complete Collection and he used it for fapping material ever since?
>>139519293
>when she can tell it isn't because you're moving your hips in a 'it's my third time the first was some hooker the second time was my homeroom teacher' kind of way
>>139519329
Pasta +4 right here.
>>139519214
He is based on Reinhard Heydrich. Anyone who's seen any of the films based around the Wannsee Conference knows that guy is smooth as ice, and about as cold too. Even Hitler made remarks about the guy's sociopathy and all the SS under him hated him.
>>139519265
>Heheheh Lise-chan, how many men did you have sex today?
>"O-one h-hundred..."
>Oh? That's quite a lot for a young girl
>"I-I w-want m-more..."
>Say again?
>"More, I like cocks..."
>Heheheh good girl, now here's a hundred more men for you
>They've been waiting to cum inside you
>I wonder who will be the father this time?
>Heheheh never mind, its not like you're going to give birth anyway
>"T-thank you mister..."
>Oh don't thank me Lise-chan, after you clean yourself you know where to go later tonight
>>139519408
>>>/ShindoL/
>>139519242
MS PAINT YO
>>139519132
Interesting explanation. I still don't know why I'm alright with Axmann but absolutely hate others like Beatrix.
>>139519427
>twins with different fathers
>>139519427
I think he meant on the face.
Inia, Cryska and Yui are my waifus.
>>139519576
>Yuimoto's face when she tells you she's pregnant
>>139519594
How will it be named? The Master named the first one Beatrix right?
>>139519458
>hate Beatrix
What?
>you will never eat currywurst with Ursula
>>139519822
Disgusting.
>>139519681
Dunno. She comes off as kinda ridiculous. She's as evil as Axmann but lacks his charm, while at the same time having motivations that don't line up with what she's doing.
She's still got a hot design though, but that's not enough for me.
>>139519822
>you will never take Lise on a boat ride just to rub her seasick tummy till it feels better
>>139519894
You hate anime!Beatrix or Beatrix in general, because that complaint is common to a lot of people. Beatrix in the anime comes off as goofy and over-the-top and generally insane instead of the pinpoint insanity she's supposed to have.
>>139519822
>you'll never protect Katia from Fish & Chips
>>139519980
Hiroki stated in his twitter feed that Beatrix was just as rationale and "right" as Iris was.
>>139520263
What's your point
>>139520263
But that isn't what was portrayed in the show. Although to be fair every character was changed to some extent for better or worse.
>>139520330
Mainly for worse anon.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.16_[2016.03.28_19.14.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MIQsckB.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 00.16 [2016.03.28 19.14.03]")
>>139520263
Yeah, it was surprising that he said that Beatrix's ideals aren't wrong and that her answer is just one of many that are reasonable in their situation, along with calling her a heroine like Iris:
https://twitter.com/uchidahiroki/status/715940630501859329
Maybe the anime doesn't do a good job of showing it or something.
>>139519594
Her reaction when I propose.
What do you do with your first date with Beato-san?
>>139520560
>her face when she tells you deeper but you tell her you are all out of dick
>>139520330
To be honest, other than not getting a hug, I thought Lise's death in the show was better in the sense that she was already dying when Theo shot her, and he got to have his little speech.
The death in the LN was much more tragic, because he was essentially forced to shoot her, and she had to pretend to be crazy otherwise he wouldn't have been able to go through with it. It was very tragic. Beautiful, even.
But I also think he could have worked harder to keep her alive, perhaps by offering to use her as a hostage against the Stasi, or something like that. Heck, part of the tragedy is that they weren't able to stall until Katja arrived, because she could have gotten everyone to get along.
So, The LN death was a better story development, but Lise's anime death seemed kinder.
>>139520263
Beatrix was surely rational, she had it all planned out with reasoning behind each step. That doesn't mean she was a sane woman, you can almost feel the cracking in her head.
>>139520560
The only reason Beatrix is the 'bad guy' is because we're presented with the point of view of those specifically opposed to her.imo Iris was much less of a heroine than either Beatrix or Katia because both Bea and Katia had some sort of endgame. What the hell was Iris's endgame? 'independence..and then what? get overrun by the fucking BETA?'
>>139520625
>having a small dick
>>139520640
>Lise acting like an insane faggot just to protect oniichan to the very end
>Therefore, absolutely do not remember me for this dog of the stasi did not exist
Literally fuck Theo every time I see Lise I am filled with the rage a thousand suns cannot hope to match
>>139520645
Iris was a basic bitch of the worst type that lacked zero passion in her life.
She is the most normie out of all the characters.
>>139520720
>Axmanns-new-form-of-torture-bad-fanart.jpg
Effective t b h l a d
>>139520640
>Lise end - Schwarzesmarken - vol.5 - Anime - Episodes 9 and 10
All the 666 squadron gets arrested by the stasi, except for Theo and Katia who manages to escape, along with Gretel who I think was in Berlin at the time. Theo's Mig 21 get shot down during the escape, and then he along with Katia wander in a forest until Gretel finds them along with the rebels. They move to the rebels headquarters and meet General Heim, the leader there. After this Theo goes to rescue the members of the squadron after getting information about were they were held. He finds everyone there except for Irisdina, whose whereabouts is unknown at the time. Even though he made it in time before the stasi killed anyone of the squadron, they were all exhausted from torture; Walter had his bones freakin folded, and pham lost all her back tooth. After freeing them, they start escaping, but Lise finds them and tries to stop them, were after Theodore engages her in a fight. In this fight, Pham tries to make the siblings stop fighting, however apparently Lise gets annoyed by this, and her response was shooting her with a 36mm round, which blew the upper half of Pham's body. At the end, theodore successfully defeats Lise in his Mig-21, and she is then taken in by the rebels.
They go back to the base and start questioning Lise, which then leads to the rebels asking Theodore to execute Lise himself.
A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...
Her last words when she was temporally in a lucid state of mind, were "Therefore, forget me... Absolutely, do not remember me. Because this dog of the Stasi, does not exist..."
Meanwhile katia was headed to were the execution was to try and stop it, but was too late as she heard the gunshot from a distance, at which she crumbled to the ground.
>>139520752
Her goal don't make sense though, it's like the balkans ripping themselves into smaller and smaller countries in the modern day, what's even the point?
Katia's goal is idealistic but if she could get it to somehow work it's humanity's best bet at blowing the BETA the fuck out
Beatrix's goal is to basically buy time for people to figure something outlike you know orbital railguns
Iris's goal is a fat nothing.
>>139520645
>>139520964
Um, yeah. Here's some Jap talking about how Iris's "angelic" goals are terrible:
>戦術機の戦闘を編み出したのがアイリスの兄貴でベアトリスクの彼氏のユルゲンな。二人ともユルゲンの意志を継いで闘ってたんだが、結局二人は道を違えることになった。アイリスは民衆を救いたいというのが基本で、ベアトリスクはベータを倒すことが最終目標だった。実は兄貴の考えはベアトリスクに近いん>だよな。アイリスはホンマは天使のような心根の持ち主だから、情緒的な思いだけで行動してて、人情でなんとかなるだろうぐらいの考えでしかない。
>これを踏まえて、テオドールがアイリスの思いを継いだとしても、行き詰まるのがわかるわな。
>Beatrix's boyfriend and Iris's brother, Jurgen helped create TSFs/ tactics they used. Both [his precious people] follow in his footsteps, but still find themselves on different roads.
>Iris wished to save the populace [of East Germany] while Beatrix's ultimate ends was always defeating the BETA. To tell the truth, [Jurgen's] ideals were closer to Beatrix's. Iris was like an angel but acted off of emotions and did not give a thought to what would become of humanity.
>With that it mind, it's clear that even though Iris's ideals are in Theo's hands, these ideals will reach their limits/bog things down.
There's some other old 2ch posts blasting Iris and Theo that I could dig up. You also have the anicobin polls, where over 55% of people (out of 750) said that Beatrix was right.
Even Hiroki was stating on his twitter that SM is about what happens when adolescent idealism is forced into reality.
>>139520561
So nothing?
>>139520964
>Iris's goal is a fat nothing.
Getting Stasi out of everyone's hair is a decent enough goal. They're clearly out of control and it shows when they wantonly decide whether to aid the NVA or not with TSFs that should belong to the Army instead of them in the first place.
Also, how much information is there on post-SM Best Germany? Given that they're still around in 2000s I guess they're doing relatively well to not get absorbed by the Wessies.
>>139521529
>someone saved my image
But yes. Iris is a shit.
>>139520566
I cuddle with her and hang out. Nothing big, it's the second date that I meticulously plan out. Maybe she'll do the cooking, that would be nice.
>>139521671
What type of cooking?
>>139520566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zboV3_9KY
>>139521584
They never reunite. Also, Germany falls a few months after the epilogue with Katia because the Oder-Neisse was undermanned and they were facing horrible desertion rates.
>>139521791
Yeah, but under The BeatoPlan, they would have been undermanned because of all the people they were shooting in the face.
Anyone got lyrics of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSRlmv5YnE
yet?
>>139521791
Yes, I know that, but even after evacuating elsewhere East Germoney is still an independent political entity. I'd like to know more about how they're doing.
>>139521887
They're an irrelevant Potato State that West Germany uses when they need an expendable first wave.
>>139521866
Nobody had a good plan really. Beatrix's relies on people continuing to hold the line and commit suicide with her. People aren't exactly rationale when backed into a corner and deprived of hope. Germany would've probably collapsed within the same timeframe as Katia's or Iris's plan.
Iris is love, Iris is life
>>139521866
Nah brah, you decimate the deserters and put the rest into penal battalions.
>>139521967
>the one Iris fag
How do you do it?
>>139521961
That's sort of my key point. All the heroine's plans were bad choices.
Schmidt was the only one with a decent plan that might have let East Germany hold on longer.
>>139521961
Railguns
Long-range large caliber artillery
Orbital bombardment
Mist-field to disperse lasers
Prismatic armor and cloaking technology
Examining the BETA corpses for biological weaknesses (they're fucking silicon ffs they must have weaknesses that don't affect humans)
Examining Laser-classes to replicate their potential
etcetc
>>139522122
No, most of these plans sound far to American to ever possibly work!
>>139522061
Penal battalions only work when they're an opportunity to redeem yourselves. Soviet ones, for instance, considered a battlefield injury, surviving X number of battles or a feat of personal heroism grounds enough to restore the convict in rank and rights.
Telling people with loaded guns that they're expendable and expected to die uselessly is a bad idea.
>>139522069
>Only one.
>>139522069
Hustle, Loyalty and Respect
>>139522101
>ALL the heroines plans
>Get the fuck out with your bone headed brother and live the life the two of you planned from the beginning.
Sounds pretty good to me.
>>139522101
In the LN, he had the worst plan. Basically nuke everything because he couldn't have it, then run. It's why Beatrix was so incredibly pissed that she lost all composure when he gloated about it to her. The anime doesn't get across how angry she really was. They described it as her losing her sexy mask/smirk and turning feral.
>>139522122
>Examining the BETA corpses for biological weaknesses (they're fucking silicon ffs they must have weaknesses that don't affect humans)
Considering they are built to mine any planet that possibly can exist, maybe no weakness?
>Examining Laser-classes to replicate their potential
Nigga G elements.
I aint gotta explain shit it's aliums.
Best girl?
That doesn't look like Haruka.
>>139521884
That is a really good song.
Shame there are no lyrics
>>139522101
Why wasn't there anyone with the obvious idea of "suck Western dick until they come help reinforce the Line?"
Or was Western Yurop a bunch of dumbasses who never planned on the line collapsing? It would explain why they lost their half of the continent in two years.
>>139522176
Yeah, this is an important factoid. At a certain point, getting everyone to line up in front of the machine guns blocking their retreat will be harder than fighting the BETA.
Beato's problem, I think, is that she assumes everyone is as monomaniacal as she is.
This show looked like ass, the characters were paper thin, the aliens were ugly and the plot was boring as fuck.
>2016
>eyebrows still going through the hair
>eyeliner still going through the hair
Holy shit I'm glad it's over.
>>139521791
>>139521866
>>139521961
36000 friendly Cubans.
100000 socialist friends from Africa and South America.
>>139522261
>maybe no weakness
Maybe then they couldn't move?
>>139522261
>no weakness
They're made of silicon-based compounds, and there is no compound in the world that is inert (or rather if it were inert then life wouldn't work since there would be no reactions happening)
Take a cut from their ''''flesh'''' and find a suitably potent poison to fuck them over.
>>139522366
>>139522370
G element :^)
>>139522352
>36000 friendly Cubans.
Does Cuba ever get mentioned at all in ML? Given that this is alt-history, the Cuban Revolution might not have happened at all.
>>139522244
Well, there IS a viable plan for holding the line that involves the careful and judicious use of copious volumes of thermonuclear weapons, so I just kind of assumed he wasn't going to be an assclown.
That was probably my mistake.
>>139522452
No the fucking nippons never mentined cubans anywhere.
Cuba may as well not exist.
>>139522435
>G element
>Doesn't know about G-elements being a limiting factor on laser procurement
>Doesn't realize that if all combat strains had that much, we could consume on the flesh of the fallen to make G-Bombs.
>>139522293
That was part of beato's plan but she couldn't advertise it while the other stasi were alive and kicking. Kirke kind of ruined it for her.
>>139522268
Why are double ahoges so great?
>>139522460
>>139522244
Why the fuck don't they just the nukes outside of East Germany?
>>139522528
Considering the BETA has to go back to the hive or recharge, otherwise they will drop dead.
I guess G element or some kind of space magic is behind it all.
>>139522293
>>139522537
Beatrix sucked UN dick though. Her final speech to her men even talked about strengthening the United Nations so that they could actually do shit.
Beatrix kept people facing the BETA since they were too terrified to fight Beatrix. Human lives had become worthless, existing only to throw into the grinder and hope one day the BETA choke on the paste.
Iris assumed people would unite and fight together, believing in the potential of the human heart and we'd all come together and sing koombaya or something.
Beatrix was right; the world leaders are still backstabbing and sabotaging each other in the future looking ahead to a "post-BETA world" and blind to the inarguable fact the BETA have made nothing but consistent gainz cuz they eat oatz n do squatz a day and even Yuimouto's railgun which was made by japanese expert blacksmiths who forge light over 1,000 times would be rendered ineffective since the BETA adapt like the fucking borg. They would at best steal back a little territory before the BETA evolved some kind of anti-railgun unit
>>139522435
The G-Element literally doesn't matter. The laws of thermodynamics imply that there exist reactions that obliterate whatever constitutes BETAs, because BETA are lifeforms that move under their own power.
>>139522577
Because they want to recapture the land.
I know, it's a bullshit reason.
>>139522577
This.
Considering that baters come in waves, it seems like enough time to plant remotely-triggered charges east of the line in one of the lulls. There's nothing but a barren waste there, anyway.Or so it seems. The series has shown even relatively intact infrastructure in Gdansk, so I'm not sure if "Baters leave nothing but flat, featureless desert" holds true anymore
When can we expect a Sandniggerland muv-luv?
>>139522625
>Iris assumed people would unite and fight together, believing in the potential of the human heart and we'd all come together and sing koombaya or something.
That's Katia. Iris was the nationalistic one who distrusted the West and the UN (and she was right in a way, they were secretly backing Beatrix and even working with Axmann)
>>139522694
>Muv Luv: Arab Spring
>OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFR7eki-5Ik
>ED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ivub38kOI
>>139522625
>Beatrix was right
You assume that there's no limit to how far you can push that method.
Human history would suggest that you are somewhere between deeply and utterly wrong.
>>139522694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhQxqH8KuI
Something great.
What happened to all the other Warsaw Pact nations? Didn't they form their own alliance with East Germany after Soviets got btfo'd during Palailogos?
>>139522805
You are 100% correct.
Beato-san's plan would of never worked as East Germany was at breaking point.
>>139522625
>since the BETA adapt like the fucking borg
Niger, what are you smoking? They used the exact same shit in '83 as they did in '98 and '01. The Laser Fort is the sole exception, and that's more of a kitbash than intelligent (bio)engineering.
>>139522878
They got absorbed into the NVA since they lost their land.
>>139522694
A muvluv with Arab army dynamics would be fascinating.
>>139522980
You notice that the sandniggers lost even sooner than the commies, right?
>>139522625
>BETA adapt like the fucking borg
If only that was the case.
If only.......
>>139522980
Schwarzesmarken's scenario would've made sense with them.
>>139522180
>>139522205
Iris’s not a human so much as she is a Barbie Doll, except instead of plastic, she’s molded from untempered wish fulfillment.
>>139523025
Her mom was a piece of shit so that must run in the family.
>>139523006
Are those adaptations literally just 'bigger, and metal as fuck', or am I missing something?
>>139522370
Aren't BETA carbon based?
>>139523127
I thought they were silicon based, but if they're carbon based then we already know how to take them the lolshit apart.
>>139523025
Stay mad Beatofag
>>139523127
That is correct. So it should just be a matter of figuring out their biochemistry to produce at least somewhat effective tailored nerve agents, metabolic inhibitors, necrolysis inducers, or the like.
>>139523111
Sounds about right.
>>139523127
>>139523168
If I understand it right, the BETA is Carbon based but their creator is silicon.
The creator is full retard and thinks that carbon based sentient lifeforms is impossible.
>>139523168
the beta are considered robots by their creators, who are silicon based.
>>139523257
That's almost literally unfathomable though. Silicon is less versatile than Carbon in terms of bonding, why would carbon-based sentience be impossible if Silicon is? Anything Silicon bonds to Carbon can as well.
>>139523315
They were an organic silicon intelligence. We can't actually expect a species that exhales solid material to be very competent.
But don't worry. We'll find them, someday.
>episode 13
Calling it now but is going to be shit.
>>139523714
How do you know?
It will be atleast better quality then TE
>>139523916
Japanese doll please.
>>139524054
What is this japanese doll meme
Yui is a miracle of the universe.
>>139524156
It's just a nickname for Yui. Watch TE if you want to know more.
>not playing with sexy japanese dolls
Yuuya sure is a faggot
>>139524156
It's from TE my doll friend.
>>139524195
>>139524054
I want to face fuck her!
>>139515597
I wanna know what Sylwia is saying!
>>139523714
>he didn't read the LN
Its gonna be an epilogue where everyone goes to the great Onsen in the sky and don't have to worry about fighting or hurting anyone else anymore. In fact as they slip in to the warm waters they can't seem to at all recall what it was that they had made out to be so important, so in dire need of pain and self sacrifice. Their memories fade into the rising mists clearing their minds of all worry and inhibition. All that their present attention can attend to is the healing warmth relaxing their weary muscles and aching bones. And thats when they see it, that all their loved ones, past and present are there waiting for them. Welcome to the end anon.
>>139523315
To expand a bit on it,carbon based bonds are so common that it is impossible for intelligent life forms, with an established existence (and some other things I honestly forgot) to exist and thus humans are recyclable shit.
>>139524054
>>139524195
Yui is for handholding, missionary under the sheets with the lights off for the sole purpose of repopulating the human race
>>139523257
Is there a better quality version of that Shiranui II Phase 3 lineart?
>>139524384
That's...not how basic chemistry works.
>>139524331
STOP TRYING TO CHEER ME UP LISEFAG
>>139524287
Hair
>It's just my shitty hair.
>Stop touching it.
Forehead
>What are you doing? Stop it.
>Don't make me repeat myself! Stop it!
Eyes
>With these eyes, I've seen many die.
>Perhaps the next one I see will be you.
Mouth
>I hate people who only know how to talk.
>Words are empty, speak with your actions.
Hand
>I have no interest in half-baked pilots.
>It seems you need to be re-educated.
Boobs
>This isn't going to happening again.
>This is your time to regret.
Legs
>Rude
>Stop touching me
Sorry anon, my motivation ran out at the end. You should get the gist of it though.
>>139524405
Best girl with best TSF.
>>139524619
What about her crotch
>>139524683
Oh, I knew I was forgetting something
>You want to die!?
>Let's see, how about we use you as BETA bait? Get ready.
>>139524728
>how about we use you as BETA bait?
d-does this mean you're ALPHA
>>139524728
Might as well do the outfits too
>It's just the standard issue BDU. It's nothing special.
>To kill even a single more BETA - that's what this is for.
>>139524619
Based anon! Thank you.
>>139524751
t-thanks
y-you too
>>139524619
>>139524728
>>139524785
This is just like her. Only Walter can touch her.
>>139524991
Turns out a rape victim has personal space issues. Surprising, isn't it.
>>139524728
>>139524619
>implying she didn't enjoy it
>>139525035
Not really.
>>139524435
I'll assume you haven't played the trilogy or it has been a long time.
But that's just what the superior thinks about humanity.He even gave Takeru a chance to prove that humanity are indeed a life form, but he can't think of anything in the short time between the question and what happens just after that.
I find it a bit weird too, but it's like they're elite and we're plebs. Nobody acknowledges plebeians.
Take a cute Kasumi so you don't think too much about it.
>>139524829
Everything is going to be okay anon. It might not always seem like it but never forget that burning light inside you that reaches ceaselessly for love, for attachment, for everything good that reaps despair. It is not sin to desire what you need to feel whole, but to ever think you are unworthy is the very foundation that causes our downfall.
>>139525150
Yeah no I remember the guy's reasoning, or lack thereof, but it doesn't make it less ridiculous.
>>139525519
Too bad her attachment and desire was a piece of shit.
>>139525904
[x] impregnate Newtype boob loli
>>139525785
>>139525904
>not Beato-san
Do you even waifu?
>>139525946
>>139525946
What if I waifu someone else?
>>139520645
>The only reason Beatrix is the 'bad guy' is because we're presented with the point of view of those specifically opposed to her.
anon lack creativity and innovation.
I am so sick of hearing that cliche phrase that supposedly justifies the bad guy's actions.
>AZ threads
The only reason Slaine is the 'bad guy' is because we're presented with the point of view of those specifically opposed to her.
>>139525946
Why yes, actually
>>139525904
Inia and Kasumi are my waifus.
>>139526081
ALL OF THEM!
>>139526081
>Do you want a boy or a girl?
>>139526069
>anon lack creativity and innovation.
>supposedly justifies
No, that's not how that phrase works. It's just how shit is in a crapsack world (and how it is most of the times in politics and war anyway)
The good guys are often good guys only because the PoV character happens to be on their side.
>>139526165
Like Murrican soldiers in every single action movie?
>>139526073
Then I am a traitor!
>>139526081
DELETE THIS
>>139526272
Well fine then! Have a bullet!
>>139526238
Yes? For the most part both sides in any conflict believe themselves to be justified, and you'll find wholehearted supporters on both sides, and both sides will have shitters, and both sides will be partially correct in their thinking. Any side that's completely without merit simply doesn't build up to the point where they have enough power and supporters to pose a threat to anything in a story involved with large-scale conflicts.
I want to kiss Beatrix
>>139526353
Well, she won't kiss you.
>>139526299
Joke's on you! I am the gun!
>>139526423
Well fuck.
>>139526353
Too late! She is married to me already!
>>139526299
As if Beato is afraid of some competition.
>>139526423
>implying she has a choice
The fact that the only conflict in this discussion is between fans that are torn between calling Beatrix a pathetic twisted murderous villain or an idealistic anti-hero kind of speaks to where this discussion would be without her.
>>139526588
I have no idea what you're even trying to say here, and you, like all shitposters, fail to actually address points when someone humors you and replies to your bait.
I want to stroke Sylwia's hair.
>>139526588
Wow, where would we be without the main antagonist of a series
Yea, you sure got me
When are they translating the VN????
>>139526690
I want to cum inside Sylwia and force her to carry my spawn
>>139526640
acephalous-kun, fallacies are fake or deceptive arguments, arguments that prove nothing.
>>139520566
Watch the stars in the night sky, on the beaches of Rostock,
>>139526917
>acephalous-kun
Excuse me?
Also, you still haven't replied to any of the people who have actually humored you with a counterargument yet.
>>139527066
>Not going to Rügen
Shit taste, she'll dump you right away.
>>139521584
>>139521887
There is technically a government out there, but no one is under it. Nearly all the Ossies that evacuated are with the FRG in Britannia. I think it was mentioned South Africa hosts a lot of governments in exile, but not sure SA would allow East Germany in. Either way, it doesn't matter. A "government" of a few die-hards, at most a few hundred, maybe a few thousand people. No actual capability as a state. No one refers to it as West Germany and East Germany. There is just Germany, and it is the exile government on Britannia. For all intents and purposes, East Germany is deader than Yuuya's mum.And don't you dare say Stella is another run of his mum.
>>139526588
You can write him pure evil or antihero and it works.
>fapping to characters who are now 50 years old if alive at all
>>139527538
>not being loyal to your waifu
Lise continues to poke away at the netbook. She doesn't really say anything, nor does she laugh. You just see her on the couch, silently scrolling. Through what, you can only imagine. Eventually, you decide to head to bed. You find a sleeping bag and an extra pillow and set it up on the couch for her, then head to bed. Lise goes into the bathroom, draws a bath, You can hear the water running, and her sitting in the bath, soaking. You drift off to sleep, waking only briefly as she drains the tub and takes a quick shower to rinse off. She brushes her teeth with a new toothbrush you got at the store for her, and now dry, puts on a pair of your old pyjamas. For some reason, you're keenly aware of every movement she makes. Maybe, you're just not used to having another person around. You begin to drift off to sleep again when you notice someone crawling quietly into your bed.
"Didn't I set something up for you on the couch?"
"I'm sorry. It's just reading all that, it made me realize that I really am all alone here. Everybody is gone."
Lise curls up under the covers. Her back is pressed against you, but it's clear she isn't trying to be affectionate. She just needs to know that there's another person out there that knows she exists. Part of you wants to comfort her in a more carnal sense, but either there is a crazy person in your bed pretending to be a character from a show you happen to watch, or it really is that person. In that case, well, she kind of has a bit of a history that may or may not involve beating an infant to death with a rock. She seems like a nice enough girl, but maybe you need a little more information on how she behaves before you make any decisions with longer term consequences. In any case, right now she just seems like a lonely little girl. You can't find it within yourself to kick her out to the couch, so instead you roll over and try to go back to sleep.
>>139526588
>Anti-Hero
Anti-hero fits perfectly with his character.
>>139527720
Thanks anon, stuff like this is always fun.
>>139527538
>Not fapping to genderbent versions of 90+ year old local fighter pilots who are still alive and well and in your area.
Beatrix on a bad day she's the "good girl" pretty much only because she kills even worse people stone dead.
>>139528007
Are you a Finn? do you not understand how gendered personal pronouns work?
>>139527720
>but either there is a crazy person in your bed pretending to be a character from a show you happen to watch, or it really is that person
You'd think the uguu eyes are quite a giveaway.
>>139526588
Anti-hero, Beatrix sacrificed many innocent lives for a selfish goal.
>>139528225
That's not how the word 'anti-hero' works.
>>139528074
drunk, ру́сский, alphabet, you're asking too much.
>>139528391
villain?
>>139522694
>>139522980
They were one of the first hit after Iran. The Arabs formed the Great Jihad, and though they fought and fought hard, it was a losing battle. Slowly, they were pushed to the western side of the Suez Canal and beyond, before they fought their way back to the west of the canal and dug in. It's sort of politically divided, with religious tensions, and many of the states being basically Nasserite pan-Arab anti-everyoneism, held in check by few like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, and Lebanon being pro-American.
Iran, sometimes it's assumed part of the Great Jihad, sometimes not, since in the latter, people remember the Iranians are not Arab. They are still under the monarchy, and are still very closely pro-American (they use F-14ex for example), though they are far far away from their homelands, being either with the others west of the canal, and other being on the Indian front as they fought that war.
Israel is tolerated and friendly with some of the Arab powers, still pro-American, and contributes heavily to the defense of the Suez, though they are not part of the Great Jihad, for obvious reasons.They also sold Lavi data to the UFC.
Now they're not really sandniggers as we understand the term, but the "Arab" countries west of Egypt kind of follow their own deal. France may actually still be in Algeria, and along with the Berbers keeping the Arab Algerians down.
Morocco hosts a lot of the Spanish/EU forces, especially as they defend the Gibraltar crossing.
Tunisia is probably close with Italy still.
>>139524619
>>139524728
Thank you anon.
>she calls her own hair shitty
Goddamn, that hurts. Not only hates others, hates herself most of all.
>>139527157
But I wanted to take her somewhere away from the BETA...
Even if we can't have a real beach, in a real warm land, we can still make a little memory, an imitation of it in our hearts at least?;_;
>>139528099
>>139527838
And as usual, this story is on the bottom. I think I have a full day of life with Lise.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?usp=docslist_api
>>139528826
No, an Anti-hero is not a villain, although Beatrix, by virtue of being an antagonist, isn't an Anti-hero but an Anti-villain (aka someone who desires good ends but doesn't hesitate to use evil means).
>>139522625
>>139523006
The Borg are not though exactly as adaptable as first postulated. And the BETA are like this too. Humanity simply lacks the technology and power to fight with them on a remotely equal footing. If the technology base were higher, the scales would be radically different.
The Borg are merely a thought riding the wave of brute force. They have billions of brains, but zero imagination. In always seeking to adapt, they cannot move faster than people can develop, can expand.
Their defeat is ultimately inevitable. The Borg, and the BETA. To adapt radically enough to survive, they would need to change who they are, which they are incapable of doing.
>>139529349
>Humanity simply lacks the technology and power to fight with them on a remotely equal footing
Kek no, the author is just too retarded to realize humans literally have the tech to defeat them already.
Lasers are worthless against railguns, which far outrange their detection range and can be deployed to orbit if necessary, and can be weakened to shit if you cover the battlefield with dense mist or something.
Mechas are literally what tier, just build fuckhuge artillery batteries and more planes. I refuse to believe that the Laser-classes which can't hit giant mechas can hit bombers or fighters, which would be both smaller and faster, and once lasers are gone artillery is the king of the battlefield. Poison is a thing too, just bring back some corpses.
>>139516075
Wrong.
I will never forget.That said, I will never forget the others either.Except maybe for Gretel. May her followers find peace regardless.
>>139529505
Is that you Mr. Frodo?
>>139529638Why didn't we just fly to Mt. Doom tho
>>139529674For the same reason war with the BETA reached its 30th year, the plot demands it.
>>139529726desu there's actually a good argument for not being able to fly over because the Nazgul would've shot them all down and they needed a distraction of some sort anyway
>>139529726
Just like the plot demands the deaths of qts lol;-;
>>139529757In the last battle 7 eagles rekt all the nazguls,so if you take 10 eagles you can fuck up the whole Mordor
>>139530014
Didn't they only rekt the nazguls after Sauron got BTFO? I presume they'd have a much harder time if Sauron was alive and well
>>139530044
>giant eye
>able to do anything except "stare and PTSD intensifies"
Also he was still alive during the battle
>>139529878
There's a certain irony to be had knowing I wouldn't give a Fuck about any of these characters if they lived in a happier, safer world. I mean, I'd like them until about halfway through next season, but watching these girls get pushed to the breaking point, break, and try to keep going regardless makes them so much more compelling. As it is, it's terrible watching all the things they go through, but at the same time, it makes you care.
>>139530127
Wait, didn't the eagles only arrive after the ring got tossed into the fire?
Also I'm pretty sure without Sauron the Nazgul start losing their power, I mean they're ringwraiths after all. I dunno.how did Eowyn or whatever that slut's name was stab a wraith in the face? The faggot doesn't have physical form does he?
>>139530139
Lise's best girl-ness basically hinges on the fact that she has the ability to remain a good girl and does everything for oniichan after the bullshit she's been through and her oniichan's failure to do anything back for her. In a normal SoL she'd just be the clingy yandere imouto.
>>139530239
>faggot doesn't have physical form
They are granted physical form by Sauron,but once they lost they go back to spirit form or something like thisThe are to most badass faggots in whole story
>Eowyn
Literally Irisdina
>>139530431
>literally Irisdina
Yeah but Eowyn gets to ride cock afterwards lol
>>139530475
>get hit by immortal's mace
>survive
>get shot with a .22
>die
>>139530697
Yeah because everyone knows guns are super deadly lol, a mace is just a club kek :^)
>>139515769
>anime
post discarded
>>139530913
>anime
>post discarded
Gee the massive number of actual right-pointing arrows didn't tip you off?
>>139530980
Don't worry, I'm just here to shit on the anime at every opportunities.
But seriously fuck the anime. Still don't get how it was greenlighted when it actually hurt the franchise.
I want to smear my rich cum all over Beato's pink asshole and then put my dick in and thrust wildly until she admits she loves cock in her ass.
>>139531633
>rich cum
>rich
How can your cum be rich if you're poor?
>>139532455
Cuz cum is not measured in $
>>139532520
lol thats what u think lmao
>>139514965
>still no good porn of beatrix raping iris
>>139532612
>still no good porn of beatrix
>still no good porn of SM
ftfy
>>139532612
>Beatrix raping Iris
>while in Highschool.
>they film it.
>Its for Jürgens birthday.
>>139529505
Well, a lot of things are kind of made full retard to justify mechs, and to justify basically the main story playing out as it does. Can't really be helped.
>>139532761
Jurgen was Axmann's fuckboi.
>>139533039
>mfw the BETA would actually get BTFO or contained in kashgar.
>even at worst levels, they would be contained in the middle east and some part of russia etc.
>>139533141
This 2bh.
And i was mad about soviets not using nukes.
Like, country which military stategy was "nuke the shit out of them, and then send tank armies" just have to nuke BETA.
>>139515151
try to take over the world?
>>139527720
Do you have these collected somewhere?
>>139533354
They used nukes in a way smiliar to a scorched earth policy.
But nothing really says that they used tactical nukes to breach the BETA lines and exploit them with Combined arms armies and Tank armies.
>>139533570
A TSF for ants?
>>139533141
Well the Soviet and Chinese jewery at Kashgar makes sense. And the Middle East's terrain isn't particularly advantageous when it comes to making fortified lines.
It's just the little things that are stupid. Tons and tons of little things. They add up to big herp derp things. It goes to fundamental design flaws. To take an example, to justify Meiya, they had to literally rewrite over a hundred years and change the outcomes of world wars. So rather than one, okay decently important part of her identity, but nothing compared to the vastness of the parts that make the setting, Cookie chose to do the latter, even when it makes no sense at all. Or things like only one billion people left alive for more grimderp (should at least be two if not more, one billion means most of the Earth is made up of Africans and South Americans, which isn't the case). And that's before you get over 'muh Japan', 'muh elite samurai' 'muh Takeru', which is understandable since the author is Japanese, the series is a Japanese one, but still. Okay we get it, TSFs are super duper cool and all important, but then don't outright contradict that then with saying they only play some parts in an overall combined arms doctrine. And then subvert that again. I get it, the tagline is "Save in the name of true love", and this is ultimately that story, but if you're going to go through the trouble of making all this, do it right is what I say.
Granted, we still love the series to death, it's just the little itty bitty things are legion.
The power of imouto compels you.
>>139534872
>didn't even bother to put a black outline around the text
0/10
>>139534872
Wrong Imoto
>>139533988
>that are legion
Funnily enough, I am of the opinion that against anything but Laser-Classes, a pike phalanx would just fucking tear the BETA apart. I mean, they only rush at you in swarms blindly, which is exactly what a pike phalanx is good against.
>>139535033
>dubs
Yuimoto > Stasimouto confirmed.I love you Lise
>>139535409
>I love you Lise
Bet you love chewing used chewing gum too
>>139535730
>implying I'd fuck her
M8 she's for cuddling and protecting, not fucking. She doesn't want anyone but oniichan to fuck her anywayalthough its a bit late for that
>>139535757
She ded m8
>>139536336
Yeah well fuck you too;_;
>>139535033
Is it bad I want to cause pain, to hurt her emotionally until she breaks her vow of old days and cries again?
Her face twisted in agony and despair, it is delicious. It is a treat that I can't help but want to savor, again and again.
>>139536373
Axmann literally everyone knows it's you, fuck off.
>>139536373
Fuck off Cuishit
>>139536434
No. Axmann reshapes, remolds. He is a general sadist, but also an architect. No matter how twisted, he has lessons he wishes to impart, to survive in this crazy world.
No, I just want to break someone, specifically, break Yui.
I want her to drink agony, despair, hatred, and fear. I want her to cower in the face of the sun, scared of her own shadow. I want her to be so broken inside, destroy everything she loves that she would pay the devil himself for the ability to cry again. She would beg someone to fix her so she could break her promise. I want to hold it from her until the absolute last moment, and then feed it to her. I want her to be happy someone, anyone, at any price was able to make her cry again. And then I want to drown her in her own despair. I want to remind her her whole existence is invalidated because she broke her vow. Her friends deaths are all her fault, and now she broke that covenant with them too.
I want her to beg me for a gun to end it all with.
I want her to literally beg me like a dog, to do anything, so she can get something to painlessly kill herself with.
And I will deny her.
No, dying would make it too easy for her.
Nothing in her life can be easy. Nothing.
There's always a morsel of hope to string her along.
>>139536665
Onii-chan, that's pretty fucked up.
>>139535730
She is a personfictionalcharacterwith value and worth. You don't give up on something so precious because its broken, you fix it. In fact the damage is what makes it even more deserving of love.
>https://twitter.com/MoguraVR/status/716541358870249472
Everyone was expecting tsf simulator
and we got get eaten by tank class simulator
>>139536817
>trying to fix something that's FUBAR
Nah senpai you toss that shit to put it out of its misery.
>>139536817
>cuck mantra
>>139536694
Hope always is.
>>139536817
>with value and worth
Even garbage has more worth and selling value than Lise
Lise wouldn't even sell on a clearance sale and with a snake oil salesman
Anybody here seen Deutchland 83?
Shit`s eerie going by episode summaries.
>>139537011
Nope. Is it any good?
>>139537171
"Deutschland 83 was met with excellent reviews. Rotten Tomatoes gives the show a 100% score with an average rating of 8.2/10, sampled from 22 reviews."
Hopefully it`s not all gayed up. Made by germcucks after all.
>>139536855
What a shame. The Vive controller seems like a good match for the handles in TSF.
>>139537216
Saw the trailer. Looks interesting. I just hope it's not riddled with "progressive" messages.
>While at a NATO conference in Brussels, Moritz gets an assignment to seduce and bug the head security analyst's secretary, Linda Seiler.
Jesus fucking christ.
>>139537279
It's German. Of course it's going to be.
>>139537614
Germany is getting culturally enriched even in MuvLuv.
>>139536855
So it's realistic?
>>139537738
This one is factually incorrect. Wessies imported turks.
>>139537738
Sweden
Yes
>>139537738
Deutschland
Ja
>>139536665
One thing can be said about her: she has got a great body.
>>139536665
Fuck off Cuishit
>>139537866
>>139537956
So, who's captain Germany?
>>139515769
>>139538167
Katia
>>139538263
>literally and unironically responding to your own shitpost
>>139538891
just ignore him
I kinda feel sorry for grappler-kun. Why is he so useless?
>>139539140
He only signed up to collect minerals.
>>139539140
>Number one shield for his kinsmen
>useless
shut up
his the best
>>139538891
>I'm a waifufag but he don't like my waifu so i will calling him shitposter.
Waifufags are the cancer killing /a/.
>>139539505
Disregard that, I suck cocks
>>139539505
just ignore him
a few minutes of voice only appearance and he gets to go out like the baddest motherfucker around
Anyone else very disappointed by the final battle between Beatrix and Theo? Shit was so rushed.
Also I still can't get over how dumb Iris's death was....I mean why.
>Gets shot and is bleeding to death
>"Theo get me to a mountain so I can see a sunset, instead of staying here spending my final moments with my close associates."
>Dies talking about Theo showing her something....stupid
What were the writing thinking?
>>139539747
MAL?
>>139514965
moar jihad posting pls
>>139539877
fuck off
>>139539505
waifufags = ultra-feminists in real life.
>>139539929
o-okay;_;
The irony with the jihadi/Lise pictures is that she'd be a prime target for the kebabs in the current climate.
I finished Alternative a week ago, it still doesn't feel its over. Like I still randomly keep thinking throughout the day, "Man I wanna go home and continue reading Alternative".
It feels like such a non ending, everyone dies, Takeru doesn't remember shit. Yashiro possibly the only person who knows in Final Extra, whether that really is Alt Yashiro who world hopped or just a Yashiro that somehow remembers due to memories that leaked over from imaginary space.
>>139541031
...would she though? Fuck she's more insane than half of the terrorists.
>>139541075
Advice: re-read Extra.
You start noticing subtle things.
>>139541309
She'd be liable to kill them instead if they tried anything, I feel.
>>139541341
Can't wait to re-read it when that beta version gets released in Steam soon. I read the trilogy years ago when they were translated, so this will something really nice to look forward to.
>>139541341
Other advice: Play Altered Fable
>>139541031
Am kebab, can confirm.
Lise would be a primary target for my CTPCock to pussymissile launches.
>>139539747
>Anyone else very disappointed by the final battle between Beatrix and Theo? Shit was so rushed.
Yeah, pretty much everyone complained about it. It wasn't so much that it was rushed (there was that too) it's that there's a lack of buildup and resolution. Theodor was the worst character to put up against Beatrix. He doesn't offer a counter to her ideals (like Katia), he doesn't parallel or act as a foil to her in any way, he doesn't have any real personal history or conflict with her (like Iris or Walther), and neither him or Beatrix really interact that much. The problem is is that she's nothing to Theo, so her death doesn't really change or make him grow as person like Lise's death did (alright, she killed some of his friends, but still, it didn't seem that layered in emotion aside from both wanting to kill one another). Basically, all it was was JUST a cool mech battle, which is a huge letdown for something like Schwarzesmarken.
>Also I still can't get over how dumb Iris's death was....I mean why.
It was less retarded in the LN, but still pretty bad (Axmann infiltrating a rebel camp and taking them all hostage).
>>139541384
M8 the first time a muslim tried something on her while she's with Oniichan she'd probably decide on genocide or something andfinally rid the world of mudslimes
>>139541031
Lise would fuck all the kebabs
>>139541341
>You start noticing subtle things.
Maybe in a few months, I did a full run of Extra. All routes. I don't think I missed much, maybe some extremely subtle things but I'm sure I caught most of them since I was actively seeking any sort of foreshadowing.
>>139541457
>Other advice: Play Altered Fable
Alright, is Alt Fable the last translated material? Or are some of the Chronicles series getting actively TLed as well?
>>139533550
>But nothing really says that they used tactical nukes to breach the BETA lines and exploit them with Combined arms armies and Tank armies.
Nigger are you stealing my plans?
>>139541715
Altered Fable is fully translated for some (I think 3) routes but not for others.
I'm currently slogging through the Ayamine route with a nipponese dictionary at a rate of slow.
>>139539681
I still feel like it's stupid that in the end, he died as Ablative Tactical Armor for STF-01.
He deserved better than an XCOM rookie.
>>139541485
Shoujoshit pls
>>139542303
M8 nothing of what he said has shit to do with shoujo, can you at least shitpost in a sensible manner
TE fags redpill me pls
TE is adaptaion of Alternative, right?
>>139533988
>And the Middle East's terrain isn't particularly advantageous when it comes to making fortified lines.
They have a few big rivers, and the BETA aren't really that fast and have no ranged potential besides LAZER so you do what the mongols did and just hit and run for dayzhow do Laser-classes detect and aim? Couldn't you just do night attacks or something?
>>139542364
>TE is adaptaion of Alternative, right?
Is this seriously that hard to figure out?
>>139541492Soon brother. Soon.
>>139542439
They can sense electronic signatures.
>>139542439
Hit and run doesn`t work. Baters have no concept of casualties.
>>139542439
>Couldn't you just do night attacks or something?
Nigga,they can shoot arty shells in mid air.
I don't think they would have any problems with darkness
>>139542479
yes
>>139542657
>nigga they can shoot arty shells in mid-air
And they somehow fail to shoot giant mechas which are slower and larger.
>>139542788
>what is trajectory
>>139542727
TE is a side story set in Alternative universe
>>139542549
>BETA have LITERALLY infinite morale
Well fuck their cheat-engine-using overlords too.
>>139542844
>laser shots moving at the speed of literal fucking light need to take into account trajectory
It's not as if the goddamn mechas are going to dodge something they are physically unable to detect (as in the laws of physics do not allow it) before it hits them in the face from 2km away.
>>139542916
>what is trajectory
Try again.
>>139542350
>Yeah, pretty much everyone complained about it. see >>139541485 is false!
What Japs think about episode 12?
96.9% of voters thought the last episode was great.
>>139542916
Lasers need to charge before they fire the TSF operating system detects the low level laser radiation and dodges it before it fires.
>>139543065
And this isn't possible for artillery or bombs?
>>139543057
Wait I feel like a retard now
Are you that one kid who keeps making and deleting shitposts like you were high on coke? Damn.
>>139543164
Fucking waifufag cancer ruining everything as usual.
>>139543343
just ignore him
Guys...I think it's time to let SM rest. Too much abuse from shitposters can hurt a thread.
>>139543164
He's Brazilian. The only thing I'm looking forward to when these threads die down is no more him.
>>139543498
I'm thinking we should do one more thread. This should be our last day though, seeing as it's somewhat symbolic being the air-day of episode 13 if it existed.
God I'm going to miss these threads.
>>139543600M-me too anon.
>>139543057
only retarded fanboy watch that streaming, and i'm sure they was all disgusting katia fags
>>139541715
>Or are some of the Chronicles series getting actively TLed as well?
Sadly some of it arent translated
TDA only have 00 and 01 translated
wish 02 and 03 gets translated since its one of the best parts for TDa
>>139543674
M8 you forgot your name, at this point it's far too obvious that you're samefagging.
>>139543057
>96.9%
11/10
>wake up
>oh boy I can't wait to take part in another SM thread
>shitposting everywhere
>mfw
It's the last day ffs let it die happy, don't let it die like Lise.
>>139542084
All the deaths in Alternative were stupid and preventable - They all deserved better.
But I guess that's the point.
>>139543718
>mfw the fan translation site hasn't updated since last year
They looks so fake except for the nice smile.
>>139543743
You get away from age's polls and it's more like 80% liked it (at least among the anime crowd). 2ch and 2chan still don't like it that much: http://futalog.com/398600618.htm
I'd also like to say that many of the Japs voice the same opinion that we do on matters. Up to crying over all the tits Theo wasted.
まず権力得ないと理想は実現出来ないし 現実的にベアトリクスの思想が正解だったのは歴史が証明してるし
History proves that Beatrix had the correct answer
>>139543900
More like all the deaths in Muv-Luv in general.
>>139544020
Japs are cucks, what else is new?
>>139543989
tomboy with wig
>>139543989
>nice smile.
>>139544322
Where is this from?
>>139544322
<Desire to know more intensifies>
>>139541915What If I told you I am a expert on this subject?
>>139544475
pixiv
>http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/04/03/canada-notices-that-it-has-been-destroyed-by-gundam
Germans not even made an article about being devastated by aliens and rebels
>>139544698
I thought they'd light up a bit after SM portrayed the stasi as Nazi SS NKVD KGB communists
>>139544698
One can only hope fucking canucks actually get destroyed. They are competing for the title of top cuck nation with germs now.
>>139544698
>devastated by aliens and rebels
Maybe it's just too real for them.
>>139541485
Sylwia! CUTE!
>>139544698
>Germans not even made an article about being devastated by aliens and rebels
>go to german news website
>billions of comments telling the mudslimes to GTFO
>not assblasted about aliens
heh
>>139544877
But sandniggers don`t read online comments anon, they rape and murder IRL.
>>139544938
was Axmann actualy a sandnigger? He was working even with the CIA
>>139544292
>nice smile
>>139544987
Ax just chanelled his inner kike.
>>139543986
TDA Takeru is suffering incarnate too muchi really wonder what is gonna happen on TDA 04, since takeru destroyed sumika herself after saying his goodbyes...on the funhouse
>>139544791
Thanks senpai
>>139544994
Takeru the best girl
>>139545107
>quoting yourself
>>139545343
Pls
>>139545107
26yr?
>>139544994
cute
>>139545343
Mana-sama > Meiya > shit > everyone else
Wait, so Walter and Sylwia really do hook up in the LN? As in married?
>>139546386
No, but they Sylwia does sneak into Walther's room and they are known to snuggle with one another.
So why are the two evil chicks the most loyal, most attractive, and would make the all around best wives?
>>139546819
Fucking CUTE!
>>139546880
Wouldn't say they're the most attractive, they are loyal, but best mothers? No.
>>139547199
Oh fuck my ass you said wives. But still, no.
>>139546819
For real?
>>139544698
Edmonton is a pretty small city in the middle of nowhere. So I can see them being surprised people know they exist.
>>139547199
Pre-stasi Beatrix would probably make the second or third best Mom on the cast (everyone knows Pham would be the best though)
so i just finished marathoning this, what an underwhelming endingso what happened to katia, did they make her prime minister or something?, i guess that east germany is ruled by the west government now right? what happened to the super huge beta wave that was coming in 3 flanks?
>>139547532
Baters kill everybody, the end.
>>139547532
They're still divided but East Germany is basically a useless potato state since almost everyone just assimilated with the real Germany.
>>139547532
We don't know what happens to Karja. Theo, however, becomes the villain in TE.
It's sad you marathoned it, the threads were the best part.
>>139547532
Katia was the cutest girl so of course she's the representative of the DDR during reunification talks.
If you didn't notice, the UN forces showed up during the middle of the episode and stopped the BETA attack while the civil war ended.
>>139547532
A-10 killed them all.
>>139547532
>what an underwhelming ending
What was it for you, was it Beatrix vs Theo, Iris's death, or Katia getting the happy ending despite not getting put through the wringer like everyone else.
Katia - We don't know, but she'll probably die soon, utterly crushed when her ideals get dragged through the mud. Her suffering is far from over.
Germany - Prognosis isn't good, the Oder-Neisse falls in a couple of months due to mishandling and desertion, then the rest of Europe afterwards.
Katia and Theo have finally managed to arrange a weekend getaway for just themselves, having found a babysitter that will look after their four children for the entire weekend. They return to the cozy bed and breakfast they booked after a nice dinner and a walk through the quaint little town that's just a few hours drive from the academy. Theo parks the car, and heads into the lobby of the bed and breakfast, where the host serves him a glass of cognac while he thumbs through a large format photography book depicting the local woods in various seasons.
Katia, meanwhile, heads up to their room, and after a quick shower, dries off and flicks open her suitcase. She catches a glance of herself in the mirror. She's had four children in four years since leaving the front lines, and the last two were twins. They really did a number on her body. While her tummy is still lean and muscular, it's now covered with loose skin and stretchmarks. It feels a little embarrassing seeing herself like this, and while she knows her husband thinks she's attractive, she doesn't feel particularly sexy. Still, she's prepared. Katia reaches into the bag, and pulls out a light pink silk corset. It's not particularly tight, but it does have the effect of hiding her marred (in her eyes) belly. She accessorizes this with elbow gloves and white stockings that are anchored to the corset with a pair of suspenders. her breasts and privates left totally exposed. A little bit of lipstick and mascara is applied to finish everything off. She examines herself again and hardly recognizes the person staring back at her. Still, she likes what she sees.
Finally, she throws a bathrobe over the entire ensemble, hiding it completely. She slips into a pair of fuzzy pink slippers, and catching herself in the mirror again, she's surprised at how well the robe hides everything. Heart aflutter, she opens the door to her room, and heads down to the lobby to fetch her husband.
>>139548046
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 11 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_23.21_[2016.03.20_18.06.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S8BE693.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 11 [1080p].mkv snapshot 23.21 [2016.03.20 18.06.26]")
So I got a question. If Iris had captured Beatrix instead of Beatrix taking Iris, what would she have done? Would she have had her tortured for information then executed or would she lock her up?
>[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv
>Kyhz: Beatrix did some things wrong.
Finally out, late as ever.
>>139548163
Iris wouldn't know what to do with her. Iris is just as ruthless as Beatrix, but not as emotional. Iris would rightfully decide that Beatrix is a huge threat and could be used as a rallying point even in captivity, and if someone were to bail her out, it'd be absolutely terrible. Unlike Beatrix, Iris isn't as spiteful so would see no reason to hold onto her just to throw Jurgen's ideals in her face. I don't think she'd have Beatrix tortured, but interrogation followed by personally putting a bullet in her skull sounds like something Iris would do.
>>139548512
So what you're saying is, is that Iris is shit
>>139548697
>assblasted beatocuck tears
The cutest
The cutest.
>>139548512
mary-suefag pls
>>139548697
No, I'm saying she's like Beatrix, she'll do anything to see her interpretation of Jurgen's ideals carried out. I think that if the shoe were on the other foot, she'd do things like force fights in populated areas to prevent the other side from using its big guns. The difference between the two is that Iris's position usually allows her to take the moral high-ground, whereas Beatrix can't despite her publicity stunts. Saying that, Iris is no where near as sadistic, but she is capable of turning into ice when she has to do bad shit.
>>139548839
>cuck meme
You really are trying way too hard why don't you go back to watching your sunrise while bleeding out
>>139548962
>meme
And in denial to boot, great.
>>139547792
It was a few things, i didnt like katia very much and i never got the impression theo cared for her other than as a fellow comrade or because Iris ordered him to, Iris role was handled poorly plus her death was retarded and i dont buy that Theo could be alright after all the shit he went through he should have some serious ptsd. in the end it all felt like a hollow victory instead of the ''hope for the future'' theme that it was pushing
Beatrix vs Theo was alright, but she missed a few clear chances to just shoot him instead of just kicking him also that horrible timing with the insert music
btw Gretel best girl
Hehe, lasts thread(s) guys, lets make it count:
>>139549336
>>139549336
>>139549336
>>139549336
>>139549336
>>139548714
Someone needs to do a jizz edit.
>>139548851
>>139548841
>not Beato-san
>>139549140
>i never got the impression theo cared for her other than as a fellow comrade or because Iris ordered him to, Iris role was handled poorly
Issues that are only relevant for the anime
>hollow victory instead of the ''hope for the future'' theme
Hollow victory is what most people saw it as because the future for Europe is set in stone and most viewers knew what came after because earlier titles had already revealed as much.
>>139546243
mai nigga
Still waiting for stage 4...
>>139549932
I never got past stage 3
>>139549372
Sure. Last threads. It's not like someone claimed the same maybe 5-6 threads ago
>>139549979
The key in stage 3 is putting two Lises in the top row while you have a theo/pham in the middle row so they can shoot while s/he holds the waves off.
Anett/Sylwya are great in the bottom. And a Katia to make the last stand works really well since it's cost effective.
>>139551814
Forgot pic
>>139551958
Thanks anon. I'll give it a shot.
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