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What will we have to add next?
God this layout.
I feel sicker than Lise on her 20th abortion.
>>139417277
Not even gonna dignify that one.
>>139417277
I know.
>>139417360
you just did tbqh
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music
Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
Also, commissar Gretel is alive and rocking to the latest Puhdy`s album, at least when not being totally horrified by muh 1st of april shenanigans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
Guys how the fuck do I disable this giggle4chan+ bullshit
my god
>>139417180
Posting best girls.
>>139417677
Goddamn, I feel like I'm looking Laser-kun in the eyes while he's firing.
>>139417783
I prefer Laser-kun.
Shit, I even agree on that gayass Grappler-kun over this!
>>139417783
Why is Laser-kun so goddamn worthless
>>139417887
Don't be mean, a single Laser-kun has more kills than a thousend Grapplers.
>>139418023
I've never seen Grappler-kun do anything of note, not even slow things down. What's wrong with them?
>>139418083
>>139418083
Grapplers are playing the long game. Eventually you will be lulled into a false sense of security providing them with the opportunity they need to strike.
Also screw this my eyes can't take anymore, I'm going to bed. See you tomorrow 4 chan happy april fucking fools.
>>139418168
Funny thing is how the beta one has what looks like a dick.
>rapes and eats waifus
Those things don't have a benis
>>139418320
Katia is cute.
>>139418246
No amount of surprise attacks will help Grappler, the fucking idiot would trip over air.
>>139418260
Anon, you don`t need benis to rape.
Best Girl
>>139418647
yeah
>>139418647
Yell yes
>>139418399
yes. for a dog.
>>139419081
>"I just banged this broad in the asshole. Shit was cash as fuck. You try, Theo."
Anett just got a raise in reputation with me right now.
>>139419081
Already replacing friends
That's no good Annette
>>139419231
The dead can't marry.
>>139419692
>claudia petty
>petty
what a horrid surname
>>139419765
Yours sounds like some feminist enabler
>>139419787
Well she sure is melton all over that floor
>>139419811
Well yeah but at least it's not an insult in and of itself
Fuck this April Fool's layout.
Threadly reminder that all waifus should be cherished and NOT raped per Japanese Brainwashing Method #529!
>>139419935
>#529
Mindbreak is #1.
>>139419935
>>139419081
Is she rubbing off her death flags on Kathia?
>>139418647
Yuimoto
>>139420050
And directly altering their personalities via brainwashing helmet is #529.
>>139420159
Yes, that's her secret to staying alive
But since Katia is the cutest those death flags hardly did anything to her
>>139419935
Or penetrated, burned, or shot at by GUN.
>>139420684
Katia almost got herself a taste of the Spaßhaus
>>139420650
>Pam Pierce
You can't fool me Laser-kun, I know its you, and that you like this damned layout!
>>139420565
It doesn't take a brainwashing helmet to do that, just Watanabe at the helm.
Brainstoring time!
All of the main cast of SM survives and can go wherever they want.
Where do they go?
What do they do?
Who will they go with?
>>139421228
Everyone boards a plane and goes to America, or Japna.
Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOWaOybLNXk
>>139421228
Theo, Katia, and Lise live a happy life together far removed from the BETA threat
>>139421228
cemetery
>>139418083
Grappler did down relapse Shirogane armed with paintballs though.
>>139421228
Theo tries his absolute best to convert Irisdina, Lise, and Katia to Mormonism like him.
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>>139421727
How many kids each?
>>139421228
Poland!
>>139421825
I don't even know. Have you seen those Mormon families? They've got like, 6 kids apiece at the minimum. Katia, by virtue of her younger age, will probably have the most.
>>139421626
/NVA/ 4 life
>>139421825
Lise have thousand abortions
>>139421916
Lise might be infertile though, just by virtue of getting the shit beaten out of her so much.
>>139421228
>Where do they go?
Depends on what Jurgen wants. Beatrix and Iris are going to make their decisions off of him and the remainder of the cast will make their's based off of those two.
SO basically, where does Jurgen want to go?Probably be America
>What do they do.
Fly TSFs or train the next generation in how to do so. Have kids because they'd be fucking like rabbits.
>Who will the go with?
Inghild, Marco, Annette, Martin and Gretel would be in one group.
Pham, Iris, Theo, Katia, Walther, Sylwia -MEIN JURGEN, Lise- Beatrix, Farkas kinda forming two separate groups connected by Jurgen/Lise
Axmann, Fuckboi in the last
>>139421993
That just means Katia and Iris will need to have that many more kids to make up for her.
>>139417651
>Gretel rocks to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g
>>139417677
You got it
>>139418729
Yui attracts a lot of girls doesn't she.
TRULY THE
>>139422109
Must have inherited the ultradense-pussymagnet genes from her dad, like her brother.
>>139420465
My heart melts.
>>139421228
Gretel and Martinperhaps Annette toogo to Argentina to start a new life
Eating burgers with Katia-chan!
Bullying Grappler with Lise-chan!
Shooting Wessies with Beatrix-chan!
>>139422012
>kirke and ASSMAN
>>139422524
kirke Steinhoff
She hates East Germany due to various circumstances.
But her hatred died out after fighting with Theodor Eberbach in Operation Neptune. She even developed romantic feelings for the red haired boy, she wanted to introduce him to grandfather.
When the coup occurred in East Germany, she decided to help Theodor.
>>139417180
Liden is shit.
>>139422866
>>139422230
WITNESSED
>>139422109
If Kyoko is attracted to Yui, its solely because she wanted to get Masatada's D in the first place.
>>139422109
yuribait
>>139423200
shut up slut
Anal with Annette!
>>139423528
Lewd
>>139422385
Shooting civilians you mean.
>>139422230
Argh..... MEDIOCRE!
>>139423670
Reunification happened, all who leave are wessis by choice, and thus acceptable targets.
>>139423770
2nd part of this hentai was literally shit.
>>139423675
>>139423770
Dayum
Best girls have best asses
>>139423826
i can't fap without rape
>>139423675
I kind of understand Gretel with her lewd handholding demarches now. What a prime piece of everything.
>>139422230
So which was the better Walther:
>You're still a gentle woman at heart; he wouldn't want this for you
>WITNESS ME, BEATRIX!
>>139424010
Better Walther would be the mix of two.
>>139423999
She has taste
This was an awful show
>>139424010
The shiny and chromed Walter
>>139424113
And you liked it.
>>139424172
No I didn't
>>139424010
LN Walther tore Beatrix a new one before giving her a "you're not living your life correctly" speech. Too bad he hadn't chopped her other arm off/disabled her before giving his speech. Of course, from the description, he only got as far as he did because neither wanted to really kill the other due to past history until Walther told her she could still be a good person like Jurgen wanted.
>>139424292
Don`t lie to yourself.
>>139424113
>tfw even Gundam Tekketsu was better then Muv-Luv Grimderp
>>139424326
I'm not
>>139424433
well meme'd
>>139424433
No it fucking wasn't
>>139424433
SM never struck me as grimderp, just extremely tragic.
>>139424433
>Barbatos gibe me more power
>ok
sure
>>139424537
Same here, the final lines of Platoon are perfect for SM
>I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy; we fought ourselves. And the enemy was in us. The war is over for me now, but it will always be there, the rest of my days
> But, be that as it may, those of us who did make it have an obligation to build again, to teach to others what we know, and to try with what's left of our lives to find a goodness and a meaning to this life
>>139417677
>>139424884
Watching Katia get groped up by Lise while watching from the doorway!
Seeing her squirm and moan while Lise's hand slowly inches down to her pussy!
>>139424862
Poland AIDS
>>139425286
Poland - An Incredible Delicious Sylwia
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_23.15_[2016.04.01_10.19.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QsHI1Ig.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 23.15 [2016.04.01 10.19.36]")
>>139424688
Beatrix and Lise were the two saddest characters for me. They're loyalty and lost love was what twisted them into what they were. Neither really got anywhere even close to redemption, even turning away from it at some points, and they'll likely be remembered as monsters. Their bodies will likely be desecrated and thrown in unmarked ditches to be forgotten. No one will mourn or understand them. In the end, all their pain amounted to nothing.
Iris is a pretty sad case too, as she genuinely did try to become a better, more caring and selfless person after Jurgen but could never escape her past. At least she died surrounded by her loved ones and feeling like she accomplished something.
Pham's death was just senseless. One of the few genuinely altruistic characters in the show and she's cut down trying to help one of her enemies. It doesn't help that her big sis attitude are left over feelings and regrets from her dead family.
I know I'm going to get crap for this, but I feel like, in comparison to the misery that many of the other characters endured, Katia didn't really "earn" her happy ending. It was just handed to her. I still really like her, but so many other characters went through so much more and got so much less.
>>139425705
>Katia
>happy ending
>>139425780
What do you mean?
>>139424516
>>139424530
Yes it was, kuso-tachi.
>>139425705
True, both girls where victims and victimizers
And well Katia might got it easy on the short run, but seeing how Germany and Western Europe falls, it will send her into full despair
>>139425999
>True, both girls where victims and victimizers
I think the worst thing about them is that they're trapped into a thought process that they're evil/guilty so they have to be evil. In a way (and definitely in Beatrix's case) they were their own worse enemies and if only they could see beyond this they could've moved on and attained happiness. Nothing that Axmann could do would equal the torture they'd put themselves through.
>>139425705
>Katia
>Not suffering
>>139426804
This is why people don't like Katiafags.
>OMG Katia crying in episode 07 because she overhead that Lise and Theo had sex is the single most tragic, depressing event in all of SM!!!
>>139426949
>taking that 100% seriously
You people are really stupid.
>>139426949
Who are you quoting?
>>139426804
Yeah, that really amounts to nothing compared to the hell other characters endured.
>>139427026
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
She was asking for it really
>>139426804
>Katia
>suffering
Theo please.
>>139426804
You nerds better be watching LIden's new extinction show.
>>139417180
ahegao.
>What Japs think about episode 12
>>139427490
>doesn't have Katia
I don't think so Mr.Rollins
>>139425705
What will you guy's reaction be when Katia's sacrifice in her route triggers a happy ending for virtually everyone in Martyrs? Everyone comes together, Beatrix and Iris overcome their pasts, Lise survives and lives with Theo, and East Germany begins a measured policy to evacuate and confront the BETA instead of shifting from one extreme to the other?
>>139427353
8 minutes, go back to ostracism.
>>139427610
Eva pisses herself and it's actually animated.
>>139427621
Empty, like Theo.
>>139427546
Translation pls.
>>139427621
Become the Master
>>139426804
>not been an assman master race
>>139427546
Cant read moon, but that looks like a rigged communist election
>>139427771
96.9% of voters thought the last episode was great
I think you can deduce the rest by yourself
How long until her smile is gone and she's turned into an empty husk like Beatrix?
>>139428220
>considering "great" the way Iris death was handled
Are you for real?
>>139428365
they're very used to convoluted artistic shit.
>>139428338
After Germany falls
>>139428338
She probably dies before that happens.
Though I hope we get broken edgy Ursula in a Martyrs bad end.
>>139428338
She's very similar to Beatrix in many ways. Not only are they the only Schwarzesmarken girls to share the sacred ahoge Age gifts to many of its main heroines, they're both very strong willed girls with fragile, big hearts.
>>139428547
An edgy Ursula? Is that even possible?
Nice surname between.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTx6ZogBbY
>>139428365
Beatrix the pig gets more screen time than she does.
>>139427764
Maybe he wouldn't feel so empty if he stopped emptying himself inside Lise
>>139428790
Ketchup's fuckboi gets more sceen time than her, and medical attention
>>139428790
>Beatrix the pig
Wut did you say?
>>139428765
see
>>139428751
It's very possible. She's only just turned 15, and that's the magic time when things radically change for SM heroines.
Did all the phamfags left?
>>139429133
No
>>139429268
>not posting about your waifu unitl other tells you so
mediocre
>>139428971
she's a obese
>>139429622
>Beatrix
>obese
>>139429622
She looks rather petite in the waist department.
>>139429622
>calling Beato fat
enjoy the Stasi funhouse
>>139424598
>uhhhhh BALALIKA DON'T GIVE UP ON ME
>>139428896
His fuckboi is more important than Iris.
>>139430247
They want that boipussy
>>139430294
The whole revolution was all about that boipussy.
>>139430421
poetry
>>139429095
Like getting captured by a commie political police to be later turned into officer Femme Fatale, or to be sold by your best friend to your "fellow" soldiers and be violated by them, which turns you from a gentle soul to a bitter one.
>>139430518
I hope the moderate rebels are happy with that boipussy.
>>139430789
I bet Suzy is
>>139430926
>Suzy with a strap-on
>>139431133
Payback time
>>139430789
Boypussy or Irisdina? Nah, boypussy.
>>139431199
Irisdina?
who?
>>139429095
Beatrix's and Iris's big turning point didn't happen until they were around 17-18. It's when Beatrix finally stopped resisting all the evil around her and Iris started trying to redeem herself for her past sins.
>>139431361
Stop taking drugs and start going to the gym.
>>139431564
shut up felicia you whore
>>139431564
>>139431756
Why she is so smug?
>>139431827
Her hair grew back to the point that they no longer call her a boy.
>>139431361
But it was around 15 that it all started for them. Beatrix met Jurgen when she was 14 and things changed for Iris.
>>139431133
>Suzy with a strap-on
I'm sure she's enjoying it a lot.
>>139430570
Or getting inducted into the 666th Squadron and enduring multiple hardships, losing precious comrades, and finding the strength within yourself to overcome your fears, and overthrow a dictatorship.
Schediaphilia (being exclusively sexually attracted to animated characters) - Do you see this as a negative diagnosis or a description of a subculture?
What the fuck is happening?
>>139431953
Exactly, Kyle.
>>139431891
Excellent
>>139431953
And fucking Germany in the process
>>139431987
negative
>>139432141
Shinn is shit
>>139432013
???
Do you mean the layout and the names? It's April fools day.
>>139431898
I thought Jurgen and her met when she was 12-13 but didn't start dating until she was 14 and he was 17-18. Like during BiS's opening, Jurgen was still a highschool student or something.
>>139432013
We 4chan+ now
>>139432201
Close enough.
>>139418647
>>139418729
>>139418913
>>139420465
>>139422750
>>139432141
>>139432156
>>139432497
>Beatrix survived PENETRATION
Your faces when?
Daily reminder that the DDR still lives
Die Linke is the succesor party of the SED
>>139432561
>>139432450
Question: why do people post some nippon broad with pride issues in a glorious pact pride worldwide thread?
>>139432561
Those childbearing hips and nourishing breasts have not been lost!
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.08_[2016.03.27_22.27.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wA7saxD.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 15.08 [2016.03.27 22.27.28]")
>>139432561
She would've if it had just gone a little to the left or up. I wonder what sort of conversation Beatrix and Theo would've had afterwards if he had missed her? She probably would've been pissed that she didn't even get to fulfill her death wish.
>>139432607
Because they can't handle the PACT PRIDE
>>139432201
Ketchup's fuckboi.
>>139432497
Fukadashit
>>139433050
Time jumps is hell of a drug
>>139432607
People who think their glorious nippon waifu is superior to everyone else in the world.
>>139433145
But she is
I am going to marry Gretel!
and lick her armpits
>>139432752
Theo is not the type who's really interested in establishing "understanding" like Katia, Walther, or Pham. It's why I find many of his interactions so boring compared to some of the other characters.And I'm not talking about understanding in the way Gundam implies it, I'm talking more about figuring out why the people around you think or behave they way they do
I think the best conversation in SMand I hope Martyrs adds it inwould be a confrontation between Beatrix and Katia since their ideals differ so much, but Katia would still be making an attempt to try to understand Beatrix.
>>139433192
No, she isn't
>>139433206
Not anymore, I switched to Iris' and Pham's armpits which are more delicious
>>139433371
>switching armpits
Into the gulag you go
Oh well, at least I have Gretel's armpits all for myself
>>139433192
She may have the finest ass on the far side of the Urals and trigger the eternal question, but Yuimoto is far from perfect.
>>139433563
All of them.
>>139433563
I want to liberate her ass.
>>139434291
Yui would make a great mom
>>139435170
>give me cocks
So since these will likely be the only logical routes in Martyrs, which one are you looking forward to?
http://strawpoll.me/7248366
>>139435386
Why are you acting like Katia wouldn't have her own route?
I'm looking forward to all the routes, frankly.
>>139435170
>>139435211
Would she have resisted if Theo forced her TSF to the ground, disabled it, then climbed into her cockpit and fucked her right there to establish his dominance?Would it have worked on Beatrix?
>>139435499
I don't really see Katia's route being as different from Iris's route as Lise's would, which was why I combined her with the Iris option.
>>139435518
If hentai logic broke her, hentai logic will fix herand Beatrix.
>>139435499
>Theodore
>Fucking doggy
kek, he get excited only with bitches
>>139435680
Beatrix isn't even going to have her own route, she has Jurgen already.
Katia's route will easily be the most different if Gregory Andropov and his KGB buddies have anything to say about it.
>>139434783
Iris is beautiful
>>139435744
>Beatrix isn't even going to have her own route, she has Jurgen already.
If she did, it wouldn't be a romantic route, it'd be a short detour from Lise's route where you find out more about her. But Beatrix has pretty much been dead since Jurgen died, and while I do think Theo might be able to shift her opinion's slightly, I don't think she'll let go of it.
>>139433294
>>139432013
Google bought 4chan and Hiro sold us out, you haven't heard?
>>139436159
>Latrova
LeyMey will never deliver ;_; .
>>139436159
>>139432013
>>139436253
Shit's layout.
>>139436305
>no LeyMey Pham or Beatrix doujins
>no Pham or Beatrix doujins period
Why even live?
>>139432063
>Melba Brigg
>>139436586
Well look who`s talking, Tyrone!
>>139436676
>Tyrone!
>>139435518
Yes, I think so. Theo could have made her his little loyal imouto fucktoy if he established his dominance. And Pham wouldn't have died for nothing.
Not sure about Beato though.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.41_[2016.03.27_14.40.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wY11xQj.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 14.41 [2016.03.27 14.40.23]")
>>139436913
Penetration was just a metaphor for sex anyways.
>>139427621
It'll be a bittersweet end, but it will still be sweet.
Also other than the names, whatever goot did to the site doesn't show up if you bruise from your mobile.
>>139436913
Lise wouldn't survive with just a single penis
>>139437221
Ha-Ha! I get to be Dolores
Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul.
>>139437495
We're talking about her onii-chan's penis. This isn't just some random penis, onee-sama!
>>139437592
I don't know why, but the name Roxanne is so arousing.
>>139437592
Humbert Humbert, I don't care if you change your name, your pedo ass is not welcome here.
>>139437495
Be fair, Sophia. Lise's tragic flaw is her absolute, undying love and loyalty to her brother and her desire to protect him in a world where nobody can protect anything. Also the fact that he's a dense Motherfucker. For her, turning him to Werewolf just means keeping him in a place she can assume direct control over him, and hiding him in the one place the Stasi can't get to him, inside their own organization.
>>139437768
It's not my fault her dumbass mom decided to play in traffic. Well, strictly speaking, I guess it is. But she shouldn't have read my diary.
>>139437908
>theLifeThatCouldHaveBeen.jpg
>>139437908
Stops him from killing Beatrix too. Like Lise says in Requiem, she's done everything for Theo but he's done nothing in return for her while Beatrix has given her a shitton back, even letting her have the 666th ops despite thinking it's a terrible idea sending Lise. Of course, Lise follows it up by saying that she still loves Theo and would still be willing to give him everything, but you can tell that there is some resentment.
>>139437908
>you'll never have such a loyal imouto
>>139438124
So even the imouto of blind love realizes that Theo REALLY doesn't deserve it.
>>139438213
Why is Theo so dense?
>>139438213
>>139438266
The funny thing is is that if Katia hadn't shown up, then Lise's and Beatrix's plan to recruit Theo to the Werewolves would've gone off without a hitch and the rebellion would've imploded.
Katia, not Iris, Theo, or Heim, was the single reason all of Beatrix's plans were foiled. The most ironic thing is that back in chapter 3, one of Beatrix's men asked why she just didn't take Katia (after her confrontation with the 666th) since she'd have justifiable cause and Beatrix basically says that it would've been too much trouble.
>>139438124
She didn't help him remove Stasi.
That alone warrants execution.
>>139438087
>>139438124
>>139438156
The good end could very well be that Theo finds out (possibly from Katja) that Beato and Iris have a history together, and when Werewolf sweeps in to detain the 666th, he agrees to surrender in return for an assurance that nobody would be mistreated, and gets Iris and Beatrix to talk it out.
A really good end would be Theo deserting with Lise the moment she asks him. I think Katja overheard them, so they'd have to take her along to be safe. They'd use Gretel's TSF of course.
>>139438539
t. densest oniichan
![Lise Sea Sick.mp4_snapshot_01.33_[2016.04.01_14.27.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T41bTs6.jpg "Lise Sea Sick.mp4 snapshot 01.33 [2016.04.01 14.27.42]")
>>139438156
https://a.pomf.cat/iopbbx.mp4
>>139438505
>adult villain underestimates plucky teenager
Will they ever learn?
>>139438505
>that Lise
hot af desu lad
>>139438683
Well she doesn't exactly scream dangerous threat.
>>139438683
There are too many adults in the world that think teenagers are rational or sane human beings. Also the people who die horribly doing stupid shit tends to be very young because they don't live to old age.
>>139438505
>Beatrix tries multiple times to recruit Theo
>Tries to recruit Walther
>Tries to recruit even fucking Gretel
What is up with Beatrix and trying to poach Iris's subordinates?
>>139438966
She's a jealous dyke who's too tsundere to just come out and say who she wants to recruit most of all, so she keeps trying to incite jealousy.
>>139438683
You'd think she would've met Ursula considering she dated Jurgen for over five years.
>>139438683
I wonder how well said plucky teenager's political ambitions turned out for everyone.
>>139439077
If you're talking about civilians, then everything went fine.
Under Katia the DDR was properly evacuated by the time the Oder Neisse fell.
Thick Stasi Girls
>>139439161
It literally fell like 6 months after the epilogue.
>>139438505
Beatrix even curses herself for being stupid enough to let Katia walk away later when she gives her big speech to rouse the rebellion and systematically annihilates Beatrix's pretenses of heroism and forces her to become just a big, bad wolf. Katia, not Iris, or even Theo, who actually kills her, is the one who truly defeats Beatrix.
>>139439045
Alfred probably wouldn't want his daughter being that close to the Stasi even if he was working with one himself.
>>139439252
And?
Doesn't change the fact that the majority of the DDRs population was saved thanks to Katia.
Sure if Beatrix had won those civilians could've lived in the DDR a little longer but when the line fell they would all die.
>>139439255
>Beatrix's pretenses of heroism and forces her to become just a big, bad wolf.
I honestly don't think anyone was really that heroic, even in the anime.
Beatrix is a pretty terrible person.
Rebels are willing to use civilians to shield themselves.
Suzy is a complete bitch.
Heim is incompetent.
Iris does nothing.
Even anime Theo penetrated Beatrix after he'd beaten her (sure it wasn't as obvious as it was in the LN where he basically disabled her other arm and damaged her fuselage so that she couldn't maneuver or fight) but you still she her lose her knife and arm functionality right before penetration.
>>139439252Thick stasimouto thighs
>>139438124
The problem is everyone's stance made sense from their own point of view. Lise had a case and her sacrifice is incredible but for Theo to join the werewolves or just run off with her would have been a death sentence for the 666th, and he couldn't willingly join the organization that caused all the suffering in his, his family's, and his comrade's lives. He genuinely believed the rebellion was in the right. It reminds me of the way the american civil war pitted siblings against each other.
>>139439775
>anon-kun, where are you going tomorrow, I heard you're having a big business deal?
>>139439620
This show was full of deaths that came across as completely unnecessary.
>>139439955
Agreed. Like Pham's, Irisdina's and those civilians in the ambush.
I wonder how many troops they lost at the defence line, while the 666th and Werewolf were busy playing robbers and cops.
>>139438597
>You will never rub her seasick little tummy to make it feel better
the suffering continues
>>139439446
It`s just desperate beatofags shitting up threads, nothing new. Their idol is an insane suicidal turbocunt with a bad case of muh feels. Literally edgelord emo level shit.
>>139440083
I don't think even Beatrix's death was necessary. She was already disable before he delivered the killing blow, and if the director wanted to make a more heroic Theo he should have gone all the way and have him spare his enemies' lives.
As it stands the TSF engineers have a greater moral compass than the main characters who butcher their way through the werewolves despite East Germany needing every TSF on the frontlline to fend off the beta.
The timing for the rebellion couldn't have been worse. Also a heroic Theo would have found a way to save his sister from suzy too, like tying her up in a sack and mailing it to hawaii till this all blows over.
Here's something to chew on, but a lot of LNfags both over here and over in Japan (if that anicobobo or whatever poll is anything to go off of) see Beatrix's plan as being the better one over all, even if it is horrifically evil. They're all in a pretty shit situation, and democracy and freedom isn't really going to help things out.
>>139440368
Beatrix's death was needed so that the loyalist forces would stand down
>>139440368
>Heroic Theo
You mean a smart Theo. I wish we had a smart Theo. Just this once it would've been amazing to see an ML protag go full Lelouch on everyone.
>>139440638
She won by a quite a bit on an /a/ poll a few days ago.
>>139440667
Forgot about that.
>>139440667
Her capture would've been enough. They were all extremely demoralized by Katia's speech, Iris being bailed out/losing their main base, and all the civvies rushing to the wall. It wouldn't of taken a lot for them to capitulate.
>>139439955
In a way, that's the point. One of the things that makes it so sad is how pointless it all is.
>>139440693
If we had a smart protagonist then everything would've been over already. The biggest threats are laser-classes - why not spam prismatic armor and stuff on everything? Sure it be expensive and take some time, but delay as long as you can and use that time to find countermeasures. I still don't see why fucking power armor and giant mechs are even effective against BETA, they're just a waste of resources. If you have the kind of tech you see in those mechs just make drones and shit. Or bomb their asses from orbit, since apparently BETA have a limited sensory range.
>>139426804
Somebody have that webm without the cut to Gretel?
>>139440840
Katia's speech did very minor damage to the morale of loyalist forces because they believed their plan was going to save the country, they weren't being oppressed, they were the oppressors.
On the other hand once Beatrix died they gave up because central to their belief was that Beatrix was the only one who could pull off their plan. They were extremely loyal to her and not any other command structure.
Maybe it may have not taken much more to make them capitulate but you would not want to have people die no matter how small an amount if instead killing Beatrix would end their struggle right then and there.
>>139440638
Katia`s thing is not about muh democracy and freedumb, but the unification of a nation. What Beato wants is a fucking suicide, and it would never work because people will only fight if there is a chance of success, however small. As things stand, she`ll just get the bullet from someone in her own commissar corps.
And there is no democracy in the west anyway. The whole planet is in a desperate war for more than a decade.
>>139440667
Not really. All of East Germany had already turned against them, even civilians were killing them left and right with pitchforks and axes. They would have surrendered either way. Not to mention that West Germany's forces were also there.
Besides that, I think a captured and paraded Beatrix would have demoralized them even further.
>>139440638
>anicobobo
She has over a 10% lead (with 80 votes) on that poll now. Apparently a lot of Japs think Katia's plan is retarded.
>>139440840
I always thought he did it either because he didn't realize she was finished, or was trying to avenge Lise (he thought of Lise before stabbing Beatrix and then afterwards says he feels unsatisfied with killing her).
>>139441175
>Katia`s thing is not about muh democracy and freedumb, but the unification of a nation.
Some of the LNfags translated her speech and it basically amounted to we'll save everyone and set up a democratic regime.
>>139441002
Orbital kinetic munitions were the answer right from the beginning of this shit, there on the moon. Literally rods of metal flying fast, no explosives even.
But how could we have oy vey the sufferink and gore this way, right?
There's something that always bugged me. Why haven't South American nations ever bothered to help with the war against the BETA?
>>139441288
>believing chinks and their "translations"
>>139441187
What you see in the anime isn't a complete picture, her death the LN was described as a massive blow to government forces which ended the fight much earlier.
Civilians can only do so much as shown by when Beatrix mowed them down as they neared the wall.
>>139441357
We got the final volume in Jap now:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/abrgda1s62nqxbz/%E7%89%B9%E8%A3%85%E7%89%88%E3%80%80%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%83%84%E3%82%A7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B1%E3%83%B3%E3%80%80%EF%BC%97%E3%80%80%E5%85%8B%E8%82%96%E5%B0%8E%E3%81%8F%E7%86%BE%E5%A4%A9%E3%81%AE%E5%A4%A7%E5%9C%B0%E3%81%B8.epub
>>139441334
Where is Cuba!?
>tfw the moderate rebels become even worse than the Stasi
>>139441388
Oh, plenty can be done by the willing. Stasiscum have families too.
>>139441451
>fucking called it
>>139441388
Why didn't they show her killing civvies in the anime. That's pretty important for establishing her characterization as the most evil person in Schwarzesmarken.
>>139441553
>Why didn't they show her killing civvies in the anime.
Strafe.gif
>>139441553
Probably because she had her token made up civvie execution scene shoved in the first episode
>>139441548
>trusting the turboslut
Why is every lisefag a cuck.
>>139441722
Sophie your name sounds like the name of a massive slut
>>139441438
>Cuba
Are they allied with the Soviet Union in ML?
>>139441334
They feed the US war industry with raw materials, serve the the EU as as home for their evacuated industries and take in all refugees who cross the Atlantic and the US doesn't want. We can assume that unless the US keeps them that way, in order to have future cannon fodder for when Eurasia falls, they are doing everything they can, since the Monroe doctine is in full swing, and if anyone of them pissed the US off, the lads from Langley will come make them a visit.
>>139441616
She's such a horrible, horrible person. I want to torture and hurt her, carve out her eyes and break her teeth and I'm not usually an edgelord like this. There's just something about her that makes her as attractive as shit to me.
>>139442002
Why would you do this to her?
>>139442002
そ う だ ね
>>139441974
>She's such a horrible person
>I want to do the same things she did to other people
Beatrix, is that you?
>>139436217
>yfw Sylwia saved Katia from deportation or prison
>>139442097
>yfw it was actually supposed to be Gretel who saved her ass, because Sylvia had already saved Katia's ass the day before from Gretel
>>139442097
And the ungrateful little bitch never said thank you.
>>139438597
https://u.pomf.is/fzsgpr.mp4
fanfiction in which all the waifus marry their husbandos and escape the beta when
>>139442056
Beatrix is a ball of self-loathing.
>>139441974
It's not in Beatrix's nature to be evil. Like others have said, the anime version never manages to get as crazy as the LN version in the shit she does, but at the same time, she's never as sympathetic or likable as her either.
>>139441748
Why would they not?
I dont think Cuba is even doing anything in muv luv world
Strange considering the Cuban interventions in Africa. They should be deploying troops to help their socialist friends in Europe and East Asia.
>>139442829
I remember that they intervened in Angola back in the 70's. I was expecting Cuba to be helping other socialist nations in MuvLuv.
This got me wondering, how would Hitler and National Socialist Germany do against the BETA? It would be interesting to see a ML world where everyone failed to defeat the Krauts in WW2.
>>139443189
I dont think anything would really change.
Unless we nazi moon now.
>>139443189
Extreme circumstances produce extreme regimes. Fascism would no doubt be one of a several ways to effectively and efficiently mobilize a country to counter a BETA offensive, but personally I'd rather not Hitler still be in strategic control as he tends to bite off more than he can chew.And then blame his people for failing to overcome impossible odds.
>>139443412
You know, Hitler may not be that responsible as people may think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I98P1AxQRUMIs it reich time?
>>139442056
>>139441974
The only person she tortured in the LN was Iris.
>>139442249
She did try to thank her for other things on numerous occasions and tried to buddy up with her. Sylwia just kept giving her the cold shoulder.
![[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 08 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_07.44_[2016.02.28_12.03.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iS9ZkeG.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 08 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 07.44 [2016.02.28 12.03.14]")
>>139443587
I don't think that even LN Beatrix would be as cruel as to conceive cake torture.
>>139443631
Sylwia's apparently a ridiculous bitch in the VN.
>>139443412
Hitler wasn't the problem, his cowardly Prussian-era relics of generals were. See: Them fighting him over every decision. They didn't even think that they could take France.
>>139443676
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
>>139443412
Yeah. What if someone like the Desert Fox or Manstein were in charge of strategic control?
>>139443676
Socialist tortes look very delicious!
>>139443725
>Desert Fox
Was he not a tactical genius instead of a strategic commander?
>>139443779
Especially when baked by a crazed widow.
>>139419231
>doghouse with "katia" plate on it
>>139423770
I'm sorry, I've tried figuring this out for the past hour.
Where is this from?
>>139443677
You're right, and there in lies the problem. He bit off more than he could chew because his teeth were filled with cavities.
>>139443631
>>139443676
Polandball rude as usual
>>139443951
Take this
![Ane Yome Quartet - 02 [Raw].mp4_snapshot_21.46_[2016.03.28_17.51.00].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wZDSUQv.jpg "Ane Yome Quartet - 02 [Raw].mp4 snapshot 21.46 [2016.03.28 17.51.00]")
>>139443951
Ane yome quartet
It's daybreak, and light is creeping into your room, when suddenly you wake up. You roll over to try to fall back to sleep when suddenly you notice there is a person lying beside you in your bed. You sit up, and in the dawn's early light, you notice a diminutive blonde girl wearing a Rain Drop pattern NVA uniform and blue striped ribbons in her hair. As you sit up, she stirs, stealing all your blankets and curling up in them like a burrito. You put your hand on her shoulder and try to shake her awake.
"Eh? Where am I? Who are you? Where's Theo?"
The girl is confused to be in your room, but she's too tired and sleepy to even sit up. She stares at you imploringly with her big, teal eyes. Inexplicably, she speaks the same language you do.
"Excuse me, but you are you?"
"I'm Lise Hohenstein. Where am I?"
"You mean from the Schwarzesmarken Series? Anyway, You're in my room."
The girl apparently thinks she's a character from Schwarzesmarken, which is rather strange. She gives you a funny look when you call it a "series," but you both choose to overlook that for now. Still, you decide to play along for now until things start to make sense. She doesn't seem particularly threatening at the moment.
"Where's Theo?"
"He's not here."
The girl looks troubled. Still...
"I guess that's OK. He probably doesn't want to see me again."
The girl turns away from you, and since she's stolen all your blankets, you decide to get up. You notice a rain drop pattern rucksack and a pair of boots lying at the foot of your bed. You pull on a pair of sweatpants, and start to head to the kitchen to make some coffee. Before you leave, you turn to her.
"Take your time. We're going to have a lot to talk about."
>>139444003
And that's a huge fucking shame. It's so sad to see a guy with such an insane amount of drive, and smart enough to achieve his dreams, and capable of punching way above his apparent political and military weight class, who could've done so much more and gone way further ahead if he didn't have to deal with idiots.
>>139444166
Off yourself and take that cunt with youOh wait :^)
>>139444166
belittle her penis.
>>139443811
Normies don't know the difference.
>>139444166
>Lise burrito
CUTE
>>139444293
it's not a penis it's a vaginal prolapse.
>>139444166
Wonder how the other SM's would feel waking up in the real world.
>>139443412
Fascism isn't quite as efficient a system of governance as people like to think. Just like any authoritarian system concentrating the state's power in a small caste of people, it's prone to encourage corruption and mismanagement. That's just what happens when you give people who have to answer to no one access to power and ressources, at least some of them are going to abuse it one way or another. And those who very much want to abuse power but don't have it will work especially hard to climb the ladder and get that access.
Fascism is rather good at pressing and brainwashing people into service though, and would arguably have a much easier time to organize the sort of total war effort needed against the BETA. From this perspective Beatrix' plan doesn't seem half bad as long as Insane Fascist Stasi Germany wasn't on its own but was subsidized by the big economic powers, especially the US. You'd have the best of both worlds: The economic prowess of liberal free market democracies pumping their output into the fanatical manpower of a fascist war machine. Although Beatrix probably still would've failed, because there simply was no way to stop the BETA during the 80's for all we know.
>>139444450
Beatrice would probably still lose it due to MUH JURGEN
>>139444476
Yui, Inia and Cryska are my waifus. Also Jesus, this April Fool's layout is pure shit.
>>139444450
Katia would probably be pretty happy learning about reunification.
Iris might not be as happy with reunification until she learns the ossies basically took over.
Beatrix would probably go insane or off herself because she no longer has a purpose, unless Jurgen transfers over, and then it gets really fucking messy.
Gretel would be extremely pissed at Germany's current situation and the retreat of Gommunism.
>>139444450
>I am the Martin now
Well, goddamn, a jackpot!
>>139444476
>there was simply no way
Yeah because they never tried anything intelligent, like analyzing the lasers of the Laser-Classes to figure out if they could be replicated or dispersed (with, you know, massive mist waves that just chew energy away) or realizing that giant fucking mechas don't make any sense for combat situations, or that drones should be possible with the technology they have etcetc?
Still, totalitarian regimes are incredibly efficient systems of governance in their first running mostly because the original person who pushed totalitarianism is almost invariably competent, charismatic, driven, and focused. Beatrice's plan ends with her death so a totalitarian regime suits her needs perfectly.
>>139444481
The fuckboi lives.
>>139444598
>having multiple waifus
Even on April Fools you shouldn't joke about such travesty
>>139444476
With Cuban and friendly socialist african/south american nations manpower and equipment, East Germany would make it.
>>139444476
Even when they're not abusing it in the sense of trying to pursue their own agendas or enrich themselves at the expense of the state and masses, in every bureaucracy there's normally a much steeper penalty for making a mistake than for doing nothing, so the people administering such a system become preoccupied with covering their own asses rather than doing their own jobs. Essentially, the good people try to keep their heads down and do their jobs, the incompetent people try to make people think they're not incompetent, and the only people actually doing things are the corrupt, ambitious types who are already adept at scapegoating other people and making the system do things it's not designed to do.
>>139444683
Moderate rebels had everuthing for him, bandages, stretcher, you name it.
Clearly Ax-trained boipussy is valued.
>>139444682
Anon noooooooo.
Dont do it.
>>139444476
It was never about winning the battle but the overall war to Beatrix. It's why she was apparently such a big believer in the United Nations in the LN (vs Iris who distrusted international organizations).
>>139444842
No fuck you
>>139444842
Thousand cock stare is real now.
>>139444773
The moderate rebels probably even took him out to a fancy restaurant after that.
That boipussy is worth everything.
>>139444865
She's a slut and you know it
>>139444913
No, she's just used af goods, not a slut. Lise is a slut only for oniichanwho really doesn't deserve her holy shit
>>139444842
even in that screen shot, you can tell she's itty-bitty.
>>139444972
>used af goods
So you're admitting that she's a slut.
checkandmate
>>139444058
>>139444103
You two are gentlemen and scholars.
>>139445012
Fuck you Theo your fake tears mean nothing, if you'd hugged her more before and stopped screaming about Iris when she was explaining to you her backstory everything would be fine
>>139445014
>used goods = slut
No.
>>139445014
Not the same.
Also
>Being raped is her fault
>keeping her brother alive at the cost of her own dignity and happiness
Every man should be lucky enough to have an imouto as dedicated as Lise.
>>139444889
Jurgen's ass was used to train the moderate rebels
>>139445135
So that's why Beatrice is so mad at them.
>>139444809
Isn't it ironic how Beatrix basically has the same ideals that are espoused by the heroes of the original trilogy (such as fighting for the greater good, making your death count, utilitarianism and internationalism) but still manages to be the most ridiculously evil person in Muv-Luv history?
>>139445133
>keeping her brother alive
Cuck rationalizations from lisefags as usual. Theo is far more useful to Ax alive, regardless of his turboslut sister.
>>139445200
The 'greater good' is traditionally either the territory of anti-heroes or villains because it more or less requires you to be evil to be good. Utilitarianism is the same thing.
Basically Beatrice is evil af because we're watching from the point of view of those she's trying to crush for the greater good.
>>139445246
Yeah but Lise slutted herself out so Ax would have no grip on Theo, she asked for Theo to be released in exchange for her.
>>139445304
Why the fug would Beatrice be happy about people penetrating the body of her ded boyfriend?
>>139445246
>cuck
>turboslut
keep running in circles mate
>>139445328
>Beatrice
MAL???
>>139445328
Yeah, she comes off as pretty likable in Lise's Requiem and somewhat justified in TSFiA (basically, when not dealing with Iris).
>>139445469
Just used to typing her name that way.
>>139445396
>Beatrice
Stop that.
Fucking Lisecucks ruining the thread with consant avatarfagging and shitposting
>>139445538
You a Katiafag or an irisfag?
>>139445527
Sowwy
>>139445396
yep!!!
>>139445443
Cuck in denial, classy. Do you sport a thousand cuck stare already?
>>139445396
Ax literally has his ass. The man has dirt on everybody, so it`s a little effort to put him where he needs him. Also BEEEEEAAAAATOOOOOORIIIIIIICHEEEEEE.
>>139445604
>>139445612
Why would she be happy about it? Is she a necrophiliac fujo?Beatrix is NOT fujo
How long will the threads last?
>>139445612
It'd be pretty cool to be drilled until you sported a thousand cock stare tbqh
All the troubles of life just float away.
>>139445707
When the Cubans arive and some south american guy give free helicopter rides for his socialist friends.
>>139445707
forever
>>139445538
>>139445396
>>139445246
You're just mad because Lise has actually canonically done all of the things people say waifus do in order to hurt waifufags' feelings, and people still like her.
She's like a used 911 someone found under a tarp in Arizona. Sure, there's a family of coyotes living in the trunk and someone took a shit on the driver's seat and if you turn on the air you'll have a bunch of spiders crawl into the cab, but if you put a little work in to fixing her up she'll run better than 99% of the competition, new or used.
>>139445800
Thousand cuck stare is the most prominent signal that a man is ready to snap. Maybe violently.
>>139445883
>car analogies
But then again, someone took a shit in Lise.
That`s something new from your bunch.
>>139445673
>>139445883
What a cute butt.
>>139445955
I mean, It's Germany.
>>139445900
Yeah but in the alternate reality that a thousand cock stare is possible by being raped forever, I'd be a grill.
>>139445883
Yeah, you could say the same of many of the girls in this. It's why watching/reading about it is so painful.
>>139446009
Germans are known for more things than just cars.
Like beer, and tanks, and being children of Satan, and immigrants.
>>139446143
Also sacking Rome.
>>139446091
>>139446143
Think he was referring to the scat inference.
>>139417180
>still n ogood porn of beatrix raping iris
Hopefully Martyr's Theo is less dense than anime Theo.
>>139446174
That was a different group of people, actually uncucked as fuck.
>>139446231
I was in fact talking about poop. You know one of the bigwigs she spied on had to have a steamer fetish. But I also admit that car analogies are pretty lazy. However, you can make a car analogy about pretty much anything and with a little bit of effort it will probably make sense.
>>139446464
>different group of people
No, it was just their ANCESTORS when they were still badass instead of cucked as shite.desu a lot of people started sacking Rome after Honorishit
>>139446467
What if one of the bigwigs had a bestiality fetish and made her fuck his horse
>>139446550
Yeah, and those ANCESTORS moved closer to Paris then.
>>139446601
>horse
I`m sure Lise has some seriously intimate knowledge of Berlin Zoo inhabitants.
>>139446601
Isn't that dangerous
>>139446770
It`s also exciting.
>>139446770
Call PITA, see if the Stasi care.
>>139446659
>to Paris
Is this the meme where there are no Germanii in Germany and that the Franks were the only historical group of germanics?
>>139446803
Not dangerous for the horse dummy, for the girl.
>>139446854
>meme
Germcuck runs deep in history!
>>139446858
The horse has no idea who's he's dealing with.
>>139446550
No, it was the anscestors of modern Italians that sacked Rome. In the case of the Vandals, modern Libyans. Do you really think they were just gonna go home to Germany after that? A lot of them settled in various parts of Italy, Spain and France, and adopted Latin as their language.
There were a lot of strange social dynamics going on with the old Roman aristocracy and the New German aristocracy in the empire, but the thing to take away from it was, nobody actually thought the empire fell in 476, that date was arrived at later.
If you can find a copy cheap, I reccomend the Oxford Illustrated History of Medieval Europe. It's a bit of an infodump, but it gives a very brief survey of Europe from 500 to 1500 in six chapters. I picked up a copy at Goodwill for $4
>>139446770
Yes
t. Catherine the Great
>>139446858
Lise is literally a professional cocksleeve that has ears.
>>139446885
>modern Libyans
So that`s why Ghaddafi was killed!
Fucking italians.
>>139446318
re-watch SAO with your perfect Kirito MC.
>>139446884
>>139446893
but shes so tiny
>>139446885
>literally cum in a tray
>Anett and Theo raping Kirke after she disrespected 666
This is how things are done in DDR, Katja!
>>139446885
>go home to Germany
The Visigoths, for one, were never even in modern-day Germany. The Vandals went to Spain and then Africa and got blown the fuck out by Belisarius.
The Lombards were way after, and those are the ones who are the ancestors of modern Italians
You're talking about the Ostrogoths, who got BTFO by the East Romans and then the Lombards. I'm simply saying that the Germanii, as a whole, sacked Rome multiple times and that some of the Germanii, who were not the same tribe, sat their asses in Germany and more or less didn't move.basically the migration period is a clusterfuck
>>139447022
4u
>>139447022
Makes for the perfect onahole
>>139446970
SAO Shounenshit
>>139446970
>wanting a clinically retarded MC
You can be intelligent and not a gary stu you know
>>139446885
Tbh, is that supposed to be cum or just porridge slop and why is Katia scared? No memes pls, I'm legit asking
Theo is now Lelouch inside.
Who survives?
>>139447189
"Don`t wory Anette, we`ll find some Stasi cunt immidiately for you to rape and restore your spirits."
>>139447176
Inaho
>>139447234
If I had to guess, it was mashed potatoes made from dehydrated potatoes. Or just otherwise bad mashed potatoes.
>>139447234
On her first day on the base Theo gives her a tour of the base.
Here they're in the cafeteria and I forgot what happened, if no one answers I'll reread and tell you again later.
>>139447250
How to fix PTSD 101
Step 1
>Find person with PTSD
Step 2
>Make said person rape someone
Step 3
>????
Profit
>>139447189
>>139447375
You risk surprise reverse rape and making her PTSD worse
>>139447375
Caveat: works only on DDR close combat specialists.
...and Kirke liked it anyway, Anett is doing her again whenever they meet.
>>139446318
>>139447133
>Still forcing this meme
Btw, for those who enjoy my hacked out writefaggotry, here's the stuff I liked enough to keep.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?usp=docslist_api
>>139447413
"So who are we raping today, Theo?"
>>139447538
>>139447577
Great answer!
>>139447344
They give her the food and she says "looks delicious... I think?" and the scene changes.
>>139447632
>cum in a tray confirmed
>>139447666
Yes!
>>139447632
Bet she was really regretting hopping the wall by then.
戦術機の戦闘を編み出したのがアイリスの兄貴でベアトリスクの彼氏のユルゲンな。二人ともユルゲンの意志を継いで闘ってたんだが、結局二人は道を違えることになった。アイリスは民衆を救いたいというのが基本で、ベアトリスクはベータを倒すことが最終目標だった。実は兄貴の考えはベアトリスクに近いんだよな。アイリスはホンマは天使のような心根の持ち主だから、情緒的な思いだけで行動してて、人情でなんとかなるだろうぐらいの考えでしかない。
これを踏まえて、テオドールがアイリスの思いを継いだとしても、行き詰まるのがわかるわな。
Beatrix's boyfriend and Iris's brother, Jurgen helped create TSFs/ tactics they used. Both [his precious people] follow in his footsteps, but still find themselves on different roads.
Iris wished to save the populace [of East Germany] while Beatrix's ultimate ends was always defeating the BETA. To tell the truth, [Jurgen's] ideals were closer to Beatrix's. Iris was like an angel but acted off of emotions and did not give a thought to what would become of humanity.
With that it mind, it's clear that even though Iris's ideals are in Theo's hands, these ideals will reach their limits/bog things down.
>>139447531
You have done a good job.
>>139447724
Why did Iris grew uglier as she grew older while Beatrix grew more beautiful?
>>139447815
cyber cyborg
>>139447724
Reminder that this is the culmination of Iris's ideals.
>>139447925
Handsome!
>>139447741
Why did she spill so much ketchup and why does she look like she feels so bad about it?
>>139447925
I wonder what their parents would say if they saw what their kids grew up into. Its a shame Lise's potential was cut short.
>>139447925
Thanks wholesome Christian values.
>>139447925
>filename
>>139447925
How did Theo become Big Boss and will there be a tie-in series to explain it?
>>139448024
Lise's potential had peaked though, the only way she was going to live longer was to start healing.
>>139447925
He probably regrets killing Lise and NOT TAKING IRIS TO A FUCKING HOSPITAL really bad right about now
>>139447724
>To tell the truth, [Jurgen's] ideals were closer to Beatrix's.
It wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be the case. Jurgen loved Iris, but Beatrix was his soulmate. She was the person he dreamed of while he was away fighting BATERs and was always the first one he visited when he returned to Berlin. Iris was apparently fucking mad jelly over the relationship the two had. There's also Jurg addressing his last message to Beatrix and not Iris, so she was the one he was thinking of in the end.
In fact, you can draw parallels between BiS and SM:
BiS - SM
Iris = Lise
Bea = Iris
Jurg =Theo
>>139447925
No, it isn't.
Reminder that just as Theo dropped Lise like a hot potato for Iris, he later dumped Iris in favor of Valentine.
>>139448085
If she lived would it be enough to keep Theo from going full terrorist?
>>139448214
Probably.
>>139448214
if she lived there'd be no nonsense like 15 YEAR OLD'S POLITICAL IDEALS and Beato would have delayed the baters somewhat
>>139448287
You again.
>>139448287
desu Katia would probably still be around
Lise and Katia are perfect waifus for notRetarded!Theodore, Beatrix doesn't want Theo so I'm leaving her out.
>>139448338
>Beatrix doesn't want Theo so I'm leaving her out.
But she tells him to call her back after their first meeting.
>>139448463
Is the cake a metaphor for herself?
>>139448338
>notRetarded!
>notRetardedNot
Anon, get your negation operators right
>>139448574
>implying
That's like saying loli!Lise means loli not Lise.
>>139448624
! in front of a string means "not", has been for some 30 years.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.57_[2016.03.27_19.52.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UmoWAiw.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 14.57 [2016.03.27 19.52.04]")
>tfw no SM this Sunday.
Martyrs can't come out soon enough.
>>139448817
You can't negate a string literal you faggot.
>>139448894
Literally just fuck my shit up anon.
>>139448200
Drama Shoujo ≠ Mecha Action
>>139448200
>be a basic bitch known as Iris.
>get cucked by the weird girl in your class that you used to bully.
>hear your brother scream out in pleasure when he is getting fucked by Beato-san in the other room and wishing you could pleasure your brother that much.
>>139449155
Fuck off, shonenspic. ML is a series about characters, not your juvenile "muh action".
>>139449170
>Beatrix is literally having a hissyfit because of her dead boyfriend she refuses to get over
>Iris is having the same hissyfit
Women.
>>139449247
Think of all the trouble that could have been saved if they had settled it like men
>>139449247
>you will never be that desirable to women that even after your death you are still getting bitches wet.
How does Jurgen do it?
>>139449289
Go on and become terrorists?
>>139449353
>you will never be so desirable to your little sister that she literally lives and dies for your sake even after you're an utter ass to her roughly six times in a row and fail to give her anything in return
How does Theo do it?
>>139449406
Lise doesn't know better.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.11_[2016.03.27_22.31.57].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BTCZOP4.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 08.11 [2016.03.27 22.31.57]")
>>139449289
Beatrix wouldn't be muh ideals if Jurgem had just knocked her up before letting Iris kill him. The only reason she clings so fanatically to her ideals is because she has absolutely nothing else. The closest she'll ever get to Jurgen is carrying out what she sees as his will. Imagine if instead she had a baby to obsess over.
The cutest
>>139449444
Trips confirm Theo is stringing along an innocent young girl.
The cutest.
>>139449467
>>139449476
Well and truly epic.they're both so soft tho
>>139449460
>hfw you call her out on how wet she is for a corpse
>>139449476
Looks like you were a little Short there, Mr.Short
I wish I could have contributed to Lise's impressive physical development.
>>139449476
>Oniichan
Does she ever fucking shut up about that rubbish heap of an oniichan
>>139449556
>wanting to abuse a qt
No.
>>139449460
>single yandere mom
>has a son that looks like Jurgen
>all that incest
What could go wrong?
>>139449601
Abuse? Perish the thought, I'd gently massage her tiddies
>>139449606
She'd probably stop being so crazy if she had Jurgen's kid with her though
Or maybe she'd go even more crazy because MUH MARRIED LIFE MUH CHILD'S FATHER
>>139449353
bishounen's plot armor
>>139449601
She projected an idealized version of him in her mind during her not so happy years and can't let go.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.04_[2016.03.27_22.32.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BbrOyf6.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 08.04 [2016.03.27 22.32.15]")
>>139449601
>Does she ever fucking shut up about that rubbish heap of an oniichan
Seriously, what does she see in him. He even sold her out after barely any torture.
>>139449606
I'd imagine Beatrix's genes expressing themselves more. Her kid would have black hair and red eyes just like her.
But yeah, she'd smother her childeven without the SS
>>139449681
I was under the impression that Theo sold everyone out basically instantly.
Not a single SM could be a good mother.
Besides Pham.
>>139449731
Beatrix would've been able to if she had gotten knocked up before her crazy took root, Katia could probably do it, Lise probably would assuming STD spam and FALCONPONCH didn't kill her babymaker / baby.
>>139449681
>>139449653
>>139449632
>be Beato-san's son
>get to suck on prime titties for the rest of your life
>>139449727
He's exaggerating, Theo was tortured for a couple of days
>>139449790
>be Beato-san's son
>your mom keeps pulling on your pee-pee
>>139449731
Inghild, Lise/Iris and Beatrix before the funhouse, probably Polland before rape too.
Anett is a lost cause, so is Gretel, she's married to the Party
>>139449731
Lise would be a great mother, shes completely devoted to family and would do anything for the ones she loved.
>>139449807
And Lise agreed to walk into hyperslut mode to save his sorry ass.
>>139449807
Yeah, and Lise was tortured so thoroughly that even Axmann (and later, Beatrix) was impressed by her mental fortitude. She just wouldn't break until she was raped for three days straight and threatened with Theo.
>>139449778
>>139449731
>Beato-san will never be your wife and you will never raise a family with her.
Why live?
>>139449862
Literally only the last part mattered, she would've been raped to death and not talked if they hadn't threatened to show Theo the records.
When AXMANN of all people say you're a tough cookie then you're probably in the top ten toughest cookies in the world.
>>139449862
I'm gonna need proof of these rape accusations, preferably videotapes, but images would suffice if provided in considerable quantities.
>>139449818
>Be Beato-san's son
>Daily penis inspections
>End up ending NTRing your gf because of your mom
>>139449818
>>139449790
>tfw you hit puberty and your mom is still young and looks like this
>>139449818
>be Beato-san's daughter
>nothing happens
>>139449860
>>139449862
Just because Lise went through much worse doesn't mean Theo didn't have a rough time.
He had bones broken as well and wasn't allowed to sleep, etc.
>>139449990
desu I don't see the deal with sleep deprivation on that scale
I mean I've made 80 hours of nosleep just to play Total War, I felt like a piece of shit sure but it wasn't mindbreaking.
>>139449989
Other than every dick in East Germany going for your ovaries due to magnificent genes.
>>139450040
Playing a game you like in a comfortable environment isn't torture either
>>139450048
Beatrix would be even worse than Abel in protecting her daughter's chastityespecially if she was still stasi.
>>139449862
>Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2
Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Axmann told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.
She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."
She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force.
She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.
After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.
If Theo frequently wakes up in sweat from funhouse nightmares, how the hell does Lise even sleep?
>>139449380
Men, not Muslims.
>>139450136
m8 Lise FINISHED the torture spree with three days of penis, presumably without sleep.
Before that she was being tortured otherwise.
Theo is a shitand more importantly, Theo probably hurt Lise more than all the previous years combined by more or less ignoring her sob story and screeching for Iris
>>139450183
She doesn't either, she just thinks of Theo much like Theo thinks of her
>>139450183
Termimouto needs no sleep.
She's powered by pure force of will.
>>139449632
>maybe she'd go even more crazy because MUH MARRIED LIFE MUH CHILD'S FATHER
How would that work out? I mean, I could see her being depressed, but not nearly as crushed as in SM.
>>139450183
Lots of alcohol if at all.
>>139450165
>Jurgen-sama, can I touch the penis yet?
>>139450176
So she's the house onahole? Why the fuck is Axmann such a shit, does he have any redeeming qualities?
>>139450183
semen demons doesn't need to sleep.
>>139450165
>>139449989
>be Beato-san's daughter
>having sex for the first time
>mom is in the same room with you watching to make sure everything goes right
>>139444481
The safety is on.
>>139450183
She probably passes out after a week or so of straight gangbanging, and you don't get nightmares if you're knocked out.
>>139450255
If she wasn't she'd have bit her own tongue off long ago.
>>139450323
>mom joins and your BF dumps you for her
>>139450219
Ok yea she had it worse, never said she didn't.
But downplaying what Theo went through is retarded.
Theo wasn't doing his favorite leisure activity while just being sleep deprived.
>>139450219
Theo is literally the worst character in SM.
Fuck home.
>>139450328
>mfw you're right
>>139450364
ActuallyI was doing that during a small bout of depression after my uncle died
>>139450403
That's not Iris.
>>139449790
>tfw the other cadets at the pilots academy tease you for still breastfeeding
>tfw other members of werewolf battalion want to tease you for still breastfeeding but your mom is their commandant.
Are we Extraverse yet?
>>139450346
>>mom joins and your BF dumps you for her
Can you imagine the back problems Beato-san will have when she has children? Jesus fuck her boobs will be massive.
>>139450419
Yea and Theo went through torture thinking Lise, and both his adoptive parents died.
>>139450459
Soon. All the pain will be worth it.
>>139450459
Cookie hasn't gotten enough sacrificial tears yet, please build additional tear ducts.
>>139450507
ye boi~
>>139450424
Muh dick
>>139450328
He never actually shoots it.
>>139450507
>Pham - Gretel
>Katia/Lise - ???
>>139450564
Isn't that Iris behind Gretel!?
>>139450564
Gretel/Iris
>>139450564
Rikka from Haganai
>>139450564
Gretel with Iris in the background
>>139450611
Maybe Yui will show up and they'll be friends.
>>139450564
>katia/Lise
yes anon, imouto alliance strong
They would probably be great friends in another life.
>>139450661
>Yui
>friends
I'd sooner bet my pension on Grappler-kun not being a waste of perfctly fine atoms.
>>139450661
>yuri and friends
>>139450708
They can still be friends if they fuck Theo, together.
>>139450708
Katia better get the fuck out of ther ebefore Lise hoaxes her into some strange threesome.
>>139450708
They'd be great friends if Theo had bothered to keep his sister alive.
>>139450403
self-insetfag
>>139450785
Hey, Katia was wishing she could've joined in
>>139450785
>strange
You mean perfectly natural.
>>139450803
You can literally see the PLEASE in her blank eyes
Any material left for a new thread?
>>139450708
>this happens
>Theo vehemently denies being attracted to Katia when Kirke asks him about her
Great, the Katia route is going to have Theo be a total tsundere.
>>139450884
Not really. no. Best to let sleeping dogs lie. We can still make another thread later.
>>139450808
The best part about Theo is if you NTR him with any of the girls, you're actually the good guy.
Just getting them to consciously decouple him would be the kindest thing you could do for any of them.
>>139450921
It's not fun if they give in too fast.
https://u.pomf.is/ucbxui.mp4
>>139450835
That cognitive dissonance. When reality contradicts such a deeply held value or belief, she can't comprehend that she might be losing the one thing she hasn't already killed herself for.
>>139450921
Wouldn't mind. Schwarzesmarken can write some pretty god-tier tsunderes.
>>139451004
Your fake name isn't fooling anyone, Axmann.
>>139451038
>THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
Fuck Theo.
>>139451004
Yeah. Katia's already head over heels for Theo so it makes sense that her route would partially be about having him be seduced by her. She did get a (one line) inner monologue in the first VN. Who knows? Maybe the Katia route will have her be the protagonist outright and relegate Theo to the mandatory love interest.
>>139451004
>Estelle Savage
>Estelle aka the fucking asshole girl from Great Expectations who regularly gets the shit beaten out of her by her husband in the epilogue
>Savage
Nice.
>>139451075
>>139451038
>>139450995
>>139450835
>>139450803
So we can all agree that we need to save Lise from Theo.
Also a good Katja/Iris bad end would be if you rack up too many flags too quickly you fugg them before the coup, and Lise sneaks into your room and murders the both of you in your sleep.
Jurgen is literally the worst character in Muv-Luv Franchise.
Fuck home.
>>139451031
>these two are about to gut eachother
>Theo thinking of blondes
This guy
>>139451275
It's impossible to save Lise from Theo, because Theo is the only reason she has any interest in being saved. The only way to save Lise is to fix Theo before he racks up too many insanity flags on Lise.
>>139451320
hes a man who knows what he wants.And his sister knows what he wants too
>>139451289
Why do you think that?
>>139451364
I don't think it's any secret whatsoever to what he wants.
Thanks imouto.
>>139451364
>Model Name: Lise Hohenstein
>picture provider: H. Axmann
with irisdina
>>139451421
Shes gotta a pretty big mouth. She was clearly very excited to get to be near him again and reminisce about better days. Must have made it all seem like a bad dream for just a little while.
>>139451539
She was rather convinced that it would soon more or less be over.
>>139451583
Fucking Onii-chan
>>139451539
>Shes gotta a pretty big mouth
Yeah, well, having your mouth be arranged around a solid tube of flesh for 20 hours a day does that to you.
>>139451628
Yes that was the idea.
>>139451628
Local Onii-chan ruins everything.
>>139451539
She's pretty stupid. Those words were what helped Theo go on his path of "oh shoot that's right the Captain -is- pretty fucking hot". He didn't really give the hug or handholding that much thought until Lise brought it up again.
>>139451705
>he likes blond tits
Lise is blond and she has tits, it sounded like she was subtly promoting herself as well.
Also Theo is a shit.
>>139451705
>imouto needs to shake your brain and tell you that comrade-captain (who looks like Lise a few years older) is kinda hot
Does Theo suffer from brain damage?
>>139451770
MC denseness at it's finest.
>>139451770
Hes a very reactionary character, not really having a will of his own but joining others to aid in their ambitions if they make sense at the time is his role to play.
>>139445200
>Isn't it ironic how Beatrix basically has the same ideals that are espoused by the heroes of the original trilogy
You say that like they were really the best option.
>>139451747
It's not really a good idea to promote yourself like that when there's higher quality competition literally a few feet away.
>>139451963
>Iris is better than Lise
>the captain who gives no shits about you is better than the imouto who gave up everything for you and literally enabled your continued being
???
Bye Bye
>>139451934
By contrast, Katia picks up the shattered remnants of the plot and pushes it. The story would have already been over after Beatrix captured Iris if Katia didn't' stand up.
Katia truly is the deuteragonist of SM.
>>139452047
mata ne
>>139452040
>like that
Even if Lise did a lot for Theo, you gotta admit that Iris has bigger tits and is more mature.
>>139452047
Farewell.
>>139451770
He probably honestly does. All those explosions, all that getting shaken around, maybe even the torture. His anger problems, impulsive behavior and inability to think things through all would be consistent with that.
>>139447269
>>139451934
Yeah, that's why is showdown with Beatrix was so terrible. It was muh ideals vs nothing.
>>139452118
>more mature
Dunno mang, she was pretty hung up about Jurgen and muh ideals
>>139452164
Purely speaking appearance-wise, Jan.
>>139452151
jesus shit that's thick
>>139451583
Well, to be fair:
>political situation coming to a head as the NVA is planning to fight the Stasi
>Stasi (and through them, Lise) know about this
>Stasi are planning on raiding the 666th and taking them all prisoner, which means Lise will be exposed to everyone
>meanwhile, the BETA are just attacking non-stop and there is little chance of holding them off (to the point that Erich Schmidt is thinking of just nuking the entire country)
It was all going to end soon, one way or another.
If you take all this information and look at it from Lise's point of view, then just grabbing onii-chan and running away together to West Germany is really the best path available to come out of this unscathed.
Unfortunately, onii-chan seems to have thought otherwise. Probably because of that captain who happens to be a busty blonde onee-san type, which just happens to be what onii-chan has been attracted since years ago.
Figures.
>>139452164
Physically mature. She's tall, leggy, s'got huge hips and fantastic tits. She's clearly nowhere near as emotionally mature as Lise.
>>139452151
Assuming they could somehow finangle an excuse for it to make sense, Katia vs Beatrix would've made a better final battle than that. All Theo really did was fight Beatrix by proxy of Iris.
>>139452243
Most sane imouto
>>139452243
>why-would-anything-nice-ever-happen-to-the used-cumrag-that-I-am.png
>>139452305
No way, Katia's more sane. She knows that reunification is the best way to save the world.
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