Is this actually Last Born or Rubedo. Is this pic doctored? And shouldn't PA actually be the most powerful NPC with his intelligence and dopple powers?
>>139348316
Consider PA can only copy 80% of the power of the original and Rubedo surpassed Touch-Me in 1v1 so unlikely.
When will Clem be trained into a killer sex slave by Chair?
Lupuppy vs Clemkitty vs Narbunny. Who you gonna choose?
>>139348316
We don't know. I don't recall it ever being confirmed that Rubedo is lvl 100, so there's a chance it's Lastborn.
>Ainz Wool Goun
>>139350611
She could be a construction like Gargantua since it was hinted that Tabula used Caloric Stone to make her.
>>139350778
>maruyama or his editors knowing english for shit
>>139349655
But he has 45 forms. 41 of them being the Supreme Beings and he can switch between them to suit any offense or defense need. And what if he took the form of the Asura boss with one of the 4 remaining forms which seems to be on the 8th floor or even takes the form of Gargantua? 80% of a WCI golem is still a WCI and Gargantua's physical power seems way over the other guardians based on size and that boulder throw. Also, can NPCs use cash items at all? Lets say they can't if its a player only thing, then PA as a SB should be able to use them.
>>139348316
BTW is there anyone translating the novel now that sky chickened out?
Haven't checked in a while and I'd like to laugh at some hardcore despair
>>139352048
considering theres nothing to translate right now, no there isnt
>>139352048
>chickened out?
wow such an ungrateful bastard consumer pig
>>139352212
Oh, I was sure v10 had already been released, well back to waiting, I guess
>>139352048
Die planarian.
>>139352424
you have a point /a/non and i agree
>>139352048
you know what? there are things you should and shouldn't say. To be honest, instead of speaking from your high horses, you should have been kneeling for thanking sky.
>>139348316
He's the most versatile NPC and is able to fill any role, but Rubedo still number 1 in terms of power. He's probably in top 5.
>>139354458
Not really, according to the author
1. 8th Floor Force
2. Rubedo
3. Touch-Me
4. Ulbert
5. Ainz (full equipment)
6. Shalltear
7. Sebas Dragonoid form
8. Guren
9. Other Guardians
10. The rest
Are the NPC´s appearances just cosmetic skins?, that is to say If for example Sebas bones Tsuare their children wont look like normal human kids, or small old people?
>>139354691
kinda hard to say, their children would either look like regular humans that are a mix between the two, or more likely half-dragons that have some kind of form-swapping
>>139354822
What would Ainz's children looks like if he gets Albedo and Shalltear pregnant? A skeleton imp/vampire? Or they would just look like their mothers?
>>139350300
Shouldn't it be Clemfrog?
>>139355052
Well he could use some magic and impregnate them with his essence. Sort of like cloning. They probably will look like their mothers but with part of Ainz's essences.
>>139355052
If they grow in the womb in the traditional sense, they would have to have flesh to be sustained by their mothers. So my guess is they would take most of their outer appearance from their mothers while having a high affinity toward necromancy.
Perhaps they would be skinner than normal as it seems people who are surrounded by death magic have such appearances
>>139355052
His skeleton should still have DNA, so technically he could do some magic shit and combine them
>>139355721
Inb4 Kubo, and they all look like Arrancar with bone parts all over their skin
>The world satoru is from is so polluted trees are nearly extinct, people need artificial lungs to even breathe, and workers are practically slaves to their corporations
Damn, I'd spend all my free time in virtual reality too.
>>139348316
Well, i would assume it is lastborn because of her miko like attire and such an attire's relation with cherry blossom trees.
The characters depicted are level 100s. I've always imagined that Rubedo was similar to a "world boss", NPCs game bosses that Ainz hinted exceed level 100.
>>139356058
Why do they choose the real world over virtual reality?
What is there to do except have sex, take care of the kids and work?
Read the fucking novels
>>139348316
>wearing shrine priestess/maiden or miko clothes.
That's the teleporter so Lastborn it is.
>>139350300
Nabe a cute.
>>139350300
Lupus a shit.
>>139357538
Because virtual reality costs money baka. You can't spend your entire life in there unless you have a ton of moolah.
>>139358993
So technically, if you had a stack of insurance money you could live in Ygg then.
>>139359264
people seem to die all the time in the future, insurance would either cease being a thing or not payout very much
VOLUME 10 FUCKING WHEN
>>139360051
When its released
>Tfw you've lost your group of internet buddies just like momonga did
>>139360290
I've had it happen like 3 times over a span of 10 years.
You never get used to it, and it all happens so fast. It's even more painful when I have half of them as facebook friends but we never talk to each other anymore.
>>139360525
Sometimes you just drift apart, and that's arguably worse because part of you knows that you should be talking, but you have no desire to.
>>139360051
delayed till next year.
>>139360290
>>139360525
Something hit me. If we only kept contact with buddies we play mmos with and not after we quit, does this mean, we are actually friends base on convenience?
We never thought of each other as friends. Only our avatars did.
Ainz-sama has requested rare nazaricks.
>>139360738
Well, you only met those guys based on a shared interest; when that interest is gone, there's no reason to stick around unless you formed a bond beyond that.
>>139356074
>NPCs game bosses that Ainz hinted exceed level 100.
he didn't. it is hinted that their level doesn't exceed the cap but their stats are very inflated and they can use a lot of game breaking unique skills
>>139362543
Wasn't it stated by Ainz that "World Class" enemies exceded lvl.100?
>>139362726
in which volume?
>>139362745
I believe vol.7, but I could be wrong.
>>139362817
I tried CTRL-Fing "world" and "boss" but didn't find anything there
>>139363169
The Adventures of DK-kun talked about WCEs:
>Those attacks usually belonged to World-Class enemies.
>For instance, the Five Rainbow Buddhas’ ‘Five Celestial Death Throes’, the ‘Corpse Venom Breath’ exhaled by one of the Eight Dragons, or the ‘Seven Deadly Sins’ of the Lords of the Seven Sins.
>Even if 30 level 100 players, fully prepared and forewarned of the battle ahead, did battle with one of these World-Class enemies, the outcome of the battle would still be in doubt. If one of these had appeared before them, it would be a threat to all of Nazarick.
>>139363420
thanks. it doesn't say that they exceed level 100 though
>>139363601
Yeah, it wasn't mentioned either. Volume 2 talks a bit about them but it only talks about difficulty, not level.
>YGGDRASIL had many different types of monsters, among them were named monsters along with regional monster chieftains and they also had very strong world-class monsters. Even if six teams consisting of six members each were to fight against these monsters, their chances of success would be very low.
>Other than the boss who appeared at the end of the main-story, “Devourer of the Nine Worlds”, there were still the “Eight Dragons”, the “Seven Demon Kings of Sin”, the “Ten Great Angels of the Tree of Life”. The expansion “Valkyrie’s Downfall” also introduced new bosses, the “God of the 6th Day” and the “Five Rainbow Buddhas”. Altogether, there were thirty-two level-breaking monsters. Some of these bosses were from the dragon race, which showed the preferences of the developers.
The problem is that the "level-breaking" part is poorly translated. It's better rendered as "extraordinary".
>>139351790
45 forms but not an unlimited amount of mana.
>>139363765
>level-breaking
yeah and there is no need for a raid boss to "exceed" level 100 in the first place since, unlike players race and job classes, he's got his own unique monster levels and skills.
>>139351790
I highly doubt Pandora can copy wci parameters, otherwise every single guild in the yggdrasil would be using Pandora npcs only.
If Pandora was really that strong without even the use of wci in his creation like rubedo, there would be no point in creating albedo, Charlotte, Demi or any other npc whatsoever aside from an army of Pandora's.
>>139363765
Yeah that's where I remember it from, but if the level-breaking part is translated incorrectly then I guess it's wrong to assume they're over lvl.100.
>>139363891
>>139363914
I know in WOW some monsters were actually stronger than the level cap (this was because level differences factored into the damage calcs) but for the most part a boss is powerful because of his special attacks and not just because it's high-level.
The JP also does not say they're above level 100.
>“Kazecchi! Repeat After Me~ Kazecchi!”
>“Kazecchi!”
>“Oh~ Good, Gooder, Goodest!”
>“Then, Buku— Kazecchi, since you’ve gotten your energy back, let’s go.”
>“Yama-chan’s bullying me~”
Did anyone understand whats going on here?
>>139363980
I see, then Rubedo can't be above lvl.100, unless AOG cheated (which the devs said they didn't) or they found some secret that allowed the creation of NPC's over lvl.100.
Also, since when Ken-yan is Takemikazuchi?
Whats the yan for?
>>139364472
Bukubuku wanted to be call Kazecchi.
So Yamaiko said so. But she misspoke the word Buku first, which means Bubble, which also a slang for saying some is getting fat or fat.
So, it is like saying
"Then, Fatty Kazecchi, since you’ve gotten your energy back, let’s go.”
>>139363899
I wonder how does the WCI takes part in making an NPC
>>139364472
Basically Buku is trying to be cute and Yamaiko is playing along.
>>139364538
It's how Nishiki Enrai addresses Warrior Takemikazuchi.
>>139364933
>>139364789
Ah right, now I remember buku was a note on the first part of prologue.
>>139363899
>Charlotte
Who?
>>139364487
maybe she's not a NPC at all, as in she does not have have race nor job classes common to players and NPCs. Gargantua is a similar case.
>>139365013
Shalltear, maybe.
>>139365036
She has to be an NPC, she was created by AOG so what else could she be and how would AOG gain acess to job and race classes not available to players or NPC's? Unless what you mean is that AOG found some secret classes and gave them to Rubedo. And how would her having different classes not make her an NPC?
Also Gargantua was a gift from the devs so it's completely different.
>>139364789
>"Then, Fatty Kazecchi, since you’ve gotten your energy back, let’s go.”
Yamaiko is too mean.
>>139366116
Yama-chan's bullying me~
>In order to DPS as a slime, one needed to specialize in assassin-type classes which killed in one hit.
What does DPS mean here? Its used as a verb right? in order to 'deal damage per second'? What does being an assassin has to do with it?
>>139366294
DPS= damage dealer.
Basically if you're a slime, you could make multiple sharp slimes out of your body and fire it on your opponent. Therefore, if you are an Assassin class slime, your skills that relies on rng have higher chance of actually happening for example critical strikes have more chances since you have more "weapon" compared to a humanoid.
>>139365426
>She has to be an NPC, she was created by AOG so what else could she be and how would AOG gain acess to job and race classes not available to players or NPC's? Unless what you mean is that AOG found some secret classes and gave them to Rubedo
I think it was mentioned somewhere in the LN that she was made in a totally different way than the other NPCs. she could be a golem or a summoned monster with insane stats or even a living wci.
>And how would her having different classes not make her an NPC?
because that's the difference between monsters and NPCs: the former have monster levels while the latter have job and race classes
>>139360051
>>139366467
>the former have monster levels while the latter have job and race classes
What the hell are monster levels? I do not remember that being mentioned in the LN.
What are the chances Rubedo and Lastborn are the same person? Rubedo the perfected, lastborn of the Pleiades.
>>139366294
Note that Solution is a slime with assassin levels.
>>139366882
It's heavily hinted that Lastborn is human and Narberal says that she is the youngest of the sisters (Pleiades)
>>139366882
They're probably two different characters. Lastborn is the one who control the teleport gates and is protecting the staff of Ainz Ooal Gown and we also saw a glimpse of her in volume 8. Rubedo is just an overpowered NPC located in the 8th floor. If they are the same character then Ainz is beyond dumb for letting Albedo have her in her hit squad. Also, Narberal referred Lastborn as the Pleiades youngest, so if she were also Rubedo, wouldn't it make Albedo and Nigredo part of the Pleiades sisters?
>>139355804
So what is this mixi campaign about?
>>139367386
It's flat out confirmed that Lastborn is an immortal human being in v6c6.
“...Strictly speaking, Yamaiko-sama’s younger sister, Akemi-sama, was a dark elf but still welcomed at Nazarick. Just because she is a human being, I don’t think there’s much of a difference.”
Ainz looked at Solution before continuing.
“If that wasn’t the case, we would probably need to kick out your youngest as well.”
“I am unsure if an immortal would qualify as a human being.”
>>139366742
it was not. it's mentioned in the WN though
>>139368195
Then it dosen't really hold that much value since things have changed from the WN to the LN and it wasn't even brought up in the LN.
>>139368195
>>139368329
In quite a few games, monsters are given a certain level and their stats are pegged directly to that level, rather than using the player character version of base stats + gear stats + buff stats etc.
In essence the monster level is their stats + an abstracted amount of "gear" stats.
>>139368329
he mechanics have stayed the same so far and even >>139363765 was taken straight from the WN
>>139368813
>In quite a few games, monsters are given a certain level and their stats are pegged directly to that level, rather than using the player character version of base stats + gear stats + buff stats etc.
Well thet thing is, Yggdrasil was not most games.
I'm sure that alot of the monster species in the game were available to play has if you went to the heteromorphic category, so monsters in Yggdrasil probably shared some base stats with players who played the same race has the monster (has long has it was available), and yes they probably shared diferent stats when it came to gear and buffs.
Where was Dark Wisdom explained for the first time? I had really forgotten about it.
>>139369922
Vol.1 I believe.
How do you think World Savior works? It's very unlikely it disappears after one strike
>>139370306
Well it seems to be the ultimate WCI (maybe second to Longinus), it just gets stronger with every thing you kill, probaly deals more damage, gives elemental effects to attacks and some other unique abilities.
>>139370514
It's one of the Twenty though, but what exactly would count as "one use" of it?
Yen Press volume 1 cover.
>>139370738
Yes it is one of the Twenty but I think it might be the exception to the rule that the Twenty only have one use since it needs to kill things to get stronger and attacking with it should, in theory, count has one use.
>>139369658
>Well thet thing is, Yggdrasil was not most games.
it still was in the WN. You have a point when you say that some monster races are playable though.
Let's consider vampires for instance: Shalltear ,as a created NPC, has 10 or so race levels in vampire race and 10 race levels in true vampire; on the other hand the vampire brides, as pop monsters, have 25+ (whatever their total level is) monster levels in vampire according to the WN.
Before you ask, I have no idea what advantages you can get with more than 15 levels in vampire and how monster class skills/stats progression compares to the relative race class
>inb4 muh wn..
yeah I get it, it's just for argument's sake.
>>139369658
Incidentally, the Dark Young are classed as level 90 monsters. However, there is absolutely no other elaboration on what that level means.
>>139371154
>it still was in the WN.
What do you mean by this?
That it was game? Because yeah I wasn't arguing against that, I was just saying that in comparison to other games (going by what was said in th LN) it was very different.
But I agree with the rest of your post.
>>139371262
Yeah that is fair point, unless you could be a dark young in Yggdrasil or something.Whick would be amazing, could you imagine that.
>>139371435
>What do you mean by this?
>That it was game? Because yeah I wasn't arguing against that
yes, meaning that in the wn's original concept the NW is supposed to have game-like levelling mechanics for monsters.
It's worth noting that monster can still learn and level up job classes if compatible with their race (which is the case for hamsuke, dragon lords and wn brain)
>>139371059
Seeing this makes me want to push out my revised translation faster to see if I can do a better job than them.
>>139371689
But I was talking about the NW, I was comparing Yggdrasil to other games from Satoru's world, not the NW.
Unless I'm misunderstanding something here.
>It's worth noting that monster can still learn and level up job classes if compatible with their race (which is the case for hamsuke, dragon lords and wn brain)
That's interesting, it makes sense that more intelligent monsters like DL's and vampires would be able to attain job classes related to their race or that were capable of being learnt by their race.
>>139371921
> I was comparing Yggdrasil to other games from Satoru's world, not the NW.
I see, sorry I misunderstood. I have no idea about Yggdrasil but my guess is that it works similarly with few exceptions such mercenary NPCs and evil etheromorphic "monsters" created by the devs to help/fuck with players
>>139372299
Well apparently it was coveted has the number 1 game when it came to the freedom in customization and options for players.
From the prequel part 2:
Most monsters were generated by the same rules used for generating player characters. Even the magic they used was the same. The values derived from their basic stats — such as HP — were also of a similar nature.
In Yggdrasil there were two major patterns of raid bosses.
The main problem with designing boss encounters in Yggdrasil was that the players had the same skills and spells that monsters did, but during raid boss encounters, there would be 30 players facing a single monster. Even if with enhanced stats, one monster would still be obliterated by sheer weight of numbers, which meant that there was no challenge at all.
...
>>139372496
As such, two main patterns of boss encounters appeared to address this issue.
The first was to meet numbers with numbers. Sometimes the boss would come with minions, or the boss arena would constantly spawn monsters. In this approach, the boss was usually not very strong. In some cases it would only have several times the HP of a player character.
The other method was to send out a single boss, generated with different data from the player characters. This sort of boss typically had abilities which would give a lot of trouble to parties which encountered them for the first time, and it could use those abilities continuously.
>>139372496
>>139372529
The main problem with this is that monster classes and other job classes have the same 15 level limit. So you'd need more than one class for a high-level monster.
While it's reasonable to expect prerequisites to take up part of that amount, that still leaves a lot of levels to account for.
For example, the Dark Young are over level 90, and assuming they have Tentacle Monster 15 / Eldritch Abomination 10 / Dark Young of the Black Goat 5, that leaves 60+ levels unaccounted for.
What would they fill the remaining levels with?
>>139372699
Job levels?
Every character is based on job/race levels.
If its a human-race they dont have race levels. But more Job levels.
>>139372828
Possible, but it would be kind of weird to see a giant monster of doom have levels in fighter/brawler/etc.
Still, whatever works.
>>139372943
Why is it weird? Goblin fighters? Skeleton Archer...
Skeleton Warrior, Guards ect
>>139373014
Addition.
The thing is many asume that every level up you have to chose a job/race level to progress.
But what about many other games where you only get every x amount of level a special point where you put it in.
The next thing, many races-levels seem to be bound to a general direction.
Like Ainz. He has no single level in a jobclass for mages. Only necromancy.
But at the same time he has race levels for skeleton mage, Elder lich and overlord. Assuming that his "race" already dictated a direction he was going and only supplemented it with necromancy to get it stronger.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hy4UmJApp1U/Vb-DIyM5anI/AAAAAAAAC2U/CdUDLTmf8M4/s1600/01-%2Bmomonga.png
>>139373014
I'm just saying, you'd expect a gigantic bellyflopping whale to have levels in being a gigantic bellyflopping whale, but not in a job that used armor or attacked in ways other than bellyflopping.
Although given the sheer numbers of classes in Ygg there might actually have been a class which specialized in bellyflopping.
>>139372496
wouldn't that imply that there are only roughly 6000 types of monsters in yggdrasil?
>>139372496
>Most monsters were generated by the same rules used for generating player characters. Even the magic they used was the same
that was slightly mistranslated:
>Since simple monsters are created with a system similar to (同じようなシステム) the one used for players, the magic spells used are the same.
from my personal interpretation monsters use the same formula for calculating base stats and inflicted damage and share the same spells with players and NPCs, but they don't have race/job classes
>>139373656
>there are only roughly 6000 types of monsters in yggdrasil?
>there are only roughly
>only
That's a really high variety of races for enemies and players and I'm sure there were some unique monsters that players didn't have acess too.
>>139371751
I'm waiting the novel to be released and then reviewed to see if it's worth to purchase. I really want to support Overlord by buying the official merchandise, but I demand it to be at least of decent quality.
>>139374910
Would it be better to say "operated by the same rules as player characters"?
That way doesn't imply they're built like PCs with proper levels and stuff.
>>139375898
it's "similar" (同じよう), not "same" (同じ).
>>139376133
Hrm, "operated by similar rules to the PCs", then?
All this kind of reminds me of D%D 3.x even more, where players could have all the classes they wanted, while monsters basically had one monster type class and special abilities tacked on.
For instance, a warrior might be Barbarian 5 Warblade 1 Fighter 2 Bloodstorm Blade 4, while a war troll would be Giant 12, with things like regen, weapon and armor profiencies, and extra stats to round it out.
>>139373264
Again the race "gigantic bellyflopping whale" could have a innante ability to wear heavy armor or attack in a specific way.
Thats what i mean that race classes seem to have specifc direction. The human race, having no pro/cons and only one level is the race with the most diversity because of the amount of job levels they can use.
While hetromorphic races get special abiltiys pros/cons tied to their race and level.
Again take Momonga as a example.
He started as Skeletal mage, got the pro/con for being undead. Meaning fire/holy weakness and the pros being immune against poisen and mental effects.
Because he is a Skeletal Mage he gets abilitys/skills/stats a magic user would have.,and supplement it with necromancy jobclass.
It seemed even so that several stats are tied to the race level. You see that by checking out the sheet from Albedo and Demiurge. Both have "Imp" as a race, while Demi goes deeper, Albedo goes full job level after that. But stil has "traces" of stats from being a full level Imp.Because both have the same amount of stat in Agility.
>>139376606
yes, that's exactly how I personally think mechanics work for monsters in Yggdrasil
Have they released the second soundtrack cd yet?
>>139376843
You can find it on youtube or other sources, already hearing it for a month now.
>>139376696
>have the same amount of stat in Agility.
I don't know why, but now I want to see an Omake/Animated Special of a sport festival in Nazarick.
I have a question. In volume 9, when Lupu summons the red hat goblins, she does it using a magic scroll or an item book? The translated novel doesn't say which one, just that she took it from the library, but does the japanese version clarifies which one she used?
>>139377688
Lupu said someone else summoned them for her, they were just stowing away in her shadow or something.
>>139376843
you're right
god i fucking love it
what a shame they fucked up the anime
>>139349749
Only if Ainz won't outright kill her and set a spell so that no one can ever revive her. He still hold it against her for killing those fodders, after all.
>>139377944
But she said she herself summoned the goblins.
>She raised her hand and went “ta-da”. Suddenly, multiple shadows burst out from her shadow, cutting their way out of empty space. “Here are the Redcaps mercenaries I summoned!” They numbered thirty. They were evil and twisted looking goblins that resembled the ones he had seen before. They all wore pointed red hats and steel boots. In their hands were axes that seemed to give off a blue glow in the moonlight.
>>139378550
It was a mistranslation. The JP says: お願いして召唤していただいた, レッドキャップさんたちっす.
Nothing in there to indicate she summoned them herself.
>>139378772
Oh, I see. Thanks anon.
>>139378772
yeah it literally says "I requested them to be summoned, (these) redcap-san-ssu"
>>139378772
>>139379531
Thx for clearing things up.
Wait are you that TranslationOverlord yesterday that is floating around?
>>139379609
>translationoverlord
what's that?
btw I'm not this >>139378772 anon
>>139379531
>>139379609
Not exactly. But I did translate page 1 of the Pero/Shalltear thing and the DVD Momonga page.
>>139379715
This guy. >>139316915
Tried to Dimension Anchor him
>>139379738
Ok!! then you mind helping translate this old pic?
It is around since the beginning days. Not fully translated.
>>139379994
Can I post it up tomorrow? It's 2;23 AM here and I'm trying to finish the revised translation of v2c3. I'll read it over and give you as good a translation as I can manage.
>>139380178
Ok thx.
You don't happen to be living in SG or SEA?
>>139371059
How much does it cost?
>>139380178
have you already gone through vol 1? if so, did you upload your version somewhere?
>>139380575
Sky replaced v1 c2-5 and the epilogue on the site with a draft of my revised translation, but that's not the final version. And he's apparently keeping the original v1c1 and prologue.
I'll talk to him about uploading my latest stuff.
I didn't know that there were more of this.
>>139378772
Does the fire spell she used in volume 8 have a name in the japanese version?
>>139380995
No, but it's probably something like a Flame Strike from D&D (pillar of heavenly fire, clerical magic).
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/flameStrike.htm
>>139380720
ok please take a look at these two lines then:
>I would have prepared more high-tier attack magic for this.”
>“For instance, an enhanced and widened-area ‘Explosion’ might teach them how to behave… oh well, things being as they are, playtime is over.”
this makes it look like Ainz wished he had used the widened area explosion but didn't. it actually says:
>I would have linked it with a higher-tier attack spell
>“with just an ‘Explosion’ spell strengthened in order to affect a wide area, the peepers might not have learned their lesson after all... oh well, things being as they are, playtime is over”
also:
> “It is… as she says. Cease your pointless struggles and lie down quietly. As a final act of mercy, I will kill you without drawing out your suffering.”
here Ainz is just parroting Nigun's earlier words so, like in the anime:
> "if I recall correctly... Cease your pointless struggles and lie down quietly. As a final act of mercy, I will kill you without drawing out your suffering.”
>>139373014
I don't think they fall under monster classes since players can choose them as playable characters in Yggdrasil.
monster might not have job or racial classes, just way more stats, abilities, skills.
that's why a raid boss monster can take on dozens of lv 100 players.
>>139381155
They seem to read about the same to me, Ainz wanted to hit the scryers with something big to make them behave, but maybe it didn't come off correctly.
I'll go correct the line tomorrow.
>>139381309
from my english reading comprehension (which is far from perfect), I understand from your translation that Ainz lament missing the chance to use Explosion.
>>139381439
Well, I'll go doublecheck it. Thanks for the feedback; I tend to be blind to my own mistakes at times.
>>139381568
Np. I'm glad someone is revising vol 1 since it was by far the messiest one translation-wise. i hope Sky accepts your revision of chapter 1 because lines like this cannot be unread
>"I knew she had a World class item before, but how come she has two now?"
>>139380556
From Yen Press site:
>Hardcover Book version
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>>139381901
is there any chance that someone will rip the drm off the ebook and upload it here? I want to believe
>>139381901
>hard cover 20 dolaroooos
Do they have a paperback?
>>139382180
>Do they have a paperback?
I strongly believe they won't come out with a paperback version, since it means they have another competition for their hardcover. And of cause logistics
Anon's, when are we going to getboing-boing Aura?
>>139383245
well that sucks
>>139384290
In 100 years.
>>139380723
what is this?
>>139384290
When are we going to get Manliest Man Mare?
>>139379738
>Nigel
Keep up the good work.
>>139380720
I guess it's time to reread vol 1 then. is the mega folder updated with the revised volume?
>>139385037
When hebangs some elf girls.
So anon's out of curiosity, how bad is the YenPress translation gonna be?
>>139388423
Momonga is now a boy
>>139379738
Master Nigel do you have any update on vol10?
If its buyable I buy it and sent it to you asap
>>139388510
Well shit, they haven't released the translated LN yet and it's alredy wrong.
>>139388548
It's not out yet, we don't even have release date yet, though the new hot rumor is that it comes out in May.
>>139388624
vol.10 at end of year1 volume per yearAll of them from Climb's perspectiveAs it turns out, Overlord was originally meant to be the story of Climb
>>139388624
>the new hot rumor is that it comes out in May.
with a season 2 announcement.
>>139349655
Wait, Rubedo beat Touch Me 1v1? I thought TM's shtick was that he was unbeatable?
>>139388986
Its like doing a boss in solo mode.
>>139388986
rubedo "would" beat Touch-me 1v1
he never fought her, but it goes to show how powerful she is since Touch-Me was a fucking monster
Anyone wants to see Climb NTRed by Demiurge? Also Demiurge x Renner?
>>139389095
>Anyone wants to see Climb NTRed by Demiurge?
Yes, very much so.
>Also Demiurge x Renner?
Yup, [Rod of the Incubus] ftw.
>>139389034
I'm kinda confused about the relative power levels. The Floor Guardians are all top-level raid bosses, but the players are also supposed to be really strong. Ainz was able to beat Shalltear even if he did P2W it.
So a lvl 100 player vs a lvl 100 Floor Guardian would be skewed towards the Guardian? I thought it was the other way around, at least for the combat-optimized players, which Ainz is decidedly not.
>>139389737
nah, you see, the npcs the players made are only ever as strong as players, the raid bosses are all on 8th floor and came with the dungeon (except gargantua and Rubedo I guess)
>>139389815
No Gargantua was a gift from theshittydevs, Ainz said so himself.
>>139389815
So the dudes on floor 8 are stronger than Ainz and the Guardians?
What is even the point? The maids are capable of roflstomping most everything the new world has to offer. At this point it's just masturbatory.
>>139390013
>What is even the point?
The point is that they're the reason Nazarick survived the 1500 player invasion.
>At this point it's just masturbatory.
Oh fuck off.
>>139390013
>
It's not like they were created in the NW. The point was to be strong enough to protect against invasions in Ygg.
>>139390161
What is even the point?*
Time for bed.
>>139389737
Actually the Guardians are strengthened into semi-raid boss level while guarding their own floor. Outside of Nazarick they are like a player.
>>139390013
>What is even the point?
Ainz will connect a warp from the NW directly into the center of the 8th floor.
Whatever happens after that is not hard to imagine.
>>139389737
Raid bosses gain massive boss stats while acting as guardians for their castle.
Shalltear is also made to crush "zerg rush kekeke" tactics by being super tanky and full of life leeching powers, which let her scale against an incompetent force.
Any new on chapter 14 of the manga?
>>139390013
>So the dudes on floor 8 are stronger than Ainz and the Guardians?
yes
>>139371751
But the current version already does a better job, just compare the summaries. The only thing I find weird is how people translate Ainz-sama as lord. Liege is fine, but lord is more of a rank, one that doesn't do Ainz justice. Lord also carries no connotations of affection, so master would work better, seeing as how Ainz is also the master of Nazarick aka hasn't revealed Nazarick to the world yet and isn't part of the political climate so to speak.
I don't think there's ever a time someone calls another person a lord when the place they are living in isn't even recognized by the rest of their surrounding areas.
That's why he gains the title of King in vol 9, because he has no legitimate title, only homely ones in a sense. Finally he's the guild master, not the guild lord.
>>139390586
you mean the raw or the scanlation?
>>139390944
Of course I say all this but personally I enjoy the combination of honorifics and localized titles best like it currently is, but Yen Press will definitely use Lord for whatever the fuck reason, and liege also lacks the affection that all the NPCs have, not just loyalty.
Funny thing is how companies like Viz are slowly changing, but do it out of order. They won't translate sensei, and keep it as it is, yet they refuse to back down on the naming order despite many Japanese works clearly showing an audience won't mind foreign names being ordered properly, such as Code Geass where you have people calling Kallen Kouzuki Kallen when she's a rebel but at school she would be called Kallen Stadtfeld. No one ever got that mixed up.
Overlord even lamp shades that kinda with it's translation, when Ainz finally realizes he fucked up the naming order in the village.
>>139390944
hold on a sec.. do they call him lord? not lord Ainz but just "Lord"
>>139390997
Oh man, does this mean lizards start next chapter?
>>139390997
Both. Would be appreciated if anyone can link me either.
>>139352424
>>139352642
>>139352692
It good to be grateful but dick sucking it's unsightly.
>>139391235
here's the raws
https://mega.nz/#!bRM3QJoJ
>>139391117
Sometimes they go My Lord I think, but mostly it's Lord Ainz. Either way it's still weird, no different than saying Duke Ainz.
The guy's fucking titles are the guild master of AOG and the master of Nazarick, a supreme being. Using words that don't even correlate with his legitimate titles is kinda forcing it.
Liege is acceptable if the connotation is that of loyalty, kinda like how a knight would. Lord is so general it's pretty demeaning when you consider how much of an Ainzboner all the npcs have.
I think Hamsuke is the only one who can use weird titles addressing Ainz, because she doesn't know shit and is practically a toddler when it comes to Nazarick mannerisms.
It's mainly due to how -sama and -dono etc etc encompass a lot more uses than the English equivalent of ranking titles or sir, mister, etc etc. Hence why I have always felt master is one of the better localized words, due to it having a personal use and an official use, which is rare for English.
Like you can be a dog's master, as well as a master at a profession. But no one's gonna call themselves the lord of their cat or farm animals.
>>139391473
and the decr. key if needed
!_hu6ze58DryU38G4lMIEWU0hGq-F51jbruaGobhK4gM
>>139391501
I don't like either of them to be honest and all the retarded Narberal jokes are not going to sound as good without using japanese words
>>139391521
>!_hu6ze58DryU38G4lMIEWU0hGq-F51jbruaGobhK4gM
Thank you!
>>139391694
That much is a given, the only question is seeing as how Overlord is probably the thickest LN YP has worked on or at least comes close, will it surpass NGNL and become a Grand Catastrophe.
>>139390944
The current version is full of grammatical errors and I basically think I can do better. Plus, it's like reading the LN all over again.
I've always felt that Lord/Lady is an adequate substitute for -sama because -sama itself is a fairly vague signifier for general superiority to the speaker, much like how a peasant would have no idea about the peerage and simply go "Lord/Lady Noblebastard wanted my crop and my daughters".
The thing I find strange is the way they use -dono to represent Sir, or "guy who is worthy of respect but not my actual superior". In Gate, for instance, Pina and Bozes switch out between calling Itami -dono and -sama depending on how much they need to.suck his cock to ward off the Jayesdeef.
I say that because my original understanding of the -dono suffix was that it referred to really really important people like the Emperor or something (-sama would refer to a daimyo, for.instance)
>>139390110
>1500 player invasion
I doubt any top guilds or players were in that raid considering the raid bosses were beat by several aog members let alone a 1500 raid.
And they couldn't even counter victims skill? trash level raid.
>>139381709
I know this one is like:
>I knew there was a world item here but how come there are 2 now?
>>139392333
Now we know it was referring to the Throne of Kings and Albedo's Ginnugagap.
>>139392248
anon, when AOG beat it was a scrub tier 90+ dungeon
when the raid hit, they beefed the place up to 100+ levels
and trying to get 1500 anything to cooperate in that kind of fashion would be like herding cats, they have loads of people only making it worse for everyone
>>139392367
and by elimination we also know that the orb inside Ainz' rib cage is not a wci
>>139380720
did you fix that part about the information magic that Ainz countered? I never understood what appeared in the sky.
>>139392248
No I believe it was an alliance of multiple high level guilds .
Also Victims skill is OP, they had not knowledge of the 8th floor and that it had the raid bosses (and they probably faced all of at once) and when they reached the 8th floor they had probably alredy wasted alot of their items, skills and mana so they weren't really trash level.
>>139392005
>I've always felt that Lord/Lady is an adequate substitute for -sama because -sama itself is a fairly vague signifier for general superiority to the speaker, much like how a peasant would have no idea about the peerage and simply go "Lord/Lady Noblebastard wanted my crop and my daughters".
Yes, in those instances it would be right. But not when the Nazarick NPCs address Ainz is my point. These are beings who are literally created to be your servants, who worship the very ground you step on and memorize every word you speak, even the grunts and sighs possibly.
It makes no sense for Ainz to ever be called a Lord by them. Hamsuke? Sure why not, though I don't remember if there's a better equivalent for Toono or whatever. But Albedo, Narberal, etc? That just makes no sense when they can cite all his titles like counting 123.
Then if you look at someone like Aura who acts like a child and is affectionate to Ainz, it doesn't make sense for her to refer to Ainz as lord like during prologue vol 9.
>I say that because my original understanding of the -dono suffix was that it referred to really really important people like the Emperor or something
I don't believe that is the case actually. -sama is usually associated with the actual higher rank, dono is like you said, guy who is worthy of respect but not an actual superior. You can't really do that to a guy like an Emperor unless you're referring to Ainz, who is obviously the head of his own organization and already above Jircniv in the political climate. Jircniv calling Ainz with dono is because he's supposed to be the highest authority, an Emperor so he cannot ever say -sama which would imply Ainz is above him, in order to save face. The same naturally goes for Ainz, but Ainz is doing it merely as courtesy because of his salary man habits.
Which makes me curious how Ainz referred to Jircniv in the WN, since Ainz was made a Duke of the Empire giving him an excuse to use -sama.
>>139392248
I doubt all 1,500 even made it to floor 8.
Floor 3: Like anon above said, Shalltear build bleed them dry with her tankiness due to health steal and resurrection
Floor 4: A siege golem that is stronger than Shalltear and its a lake so probably there was some sort of penalties
Floor 5: Same as floor 4th, cold penalty and since information is precious, I doubt all of them prepared for cold resistance.
Floor 6: Forest, Mare is designed as an AoE nuker with his Earth Druid magic and coupled with Aura and her beasts for a gang bang party and probably ambush tactic due to the forest terrain.
Floor 7: Lava, fire, high-tier demons, and a giant lava slime that is optimized for combat. And Demiurge with his command skill set makes a nasty combo.
Floor 8: The strongest fighting force, coupled with Lastborn and Rubedo did the mop up. Consider the 1500 Player + NPC force already suffered huge casualties hit by an unholy massive AoE debuff and ganged by all of the above.
So, what are the chances of there being a Season 2?
>>139392248
I remember in a very early thread, someone pointed out how not all 1500 were level 100 players, something like only 300 of them were level 100, or even only 300 of them were players period. The rest were mercs.
I have no idea where that guy got his information from, WN or otherwise so it'd be nice if some WNfags came along and cleared things up.
>>139392598
>I doubt all 1,500 even made it to floor 8.
Not him but they probably did. It's said that people died MULTIPLE TIMES before reaching Floor 8, so that means even dying, they rezzed and went back gimped and all.
So you can imagine what happened to those half assed tanks in the raid. They probably dropped like 10+ levels.
>>139392714
I think it was mentioned that 6-8 guilds participated in the raid so the maximum number of level 100 players is 600-800
>>139392811
Yeah and given the nature of Yggdrasil, it's very doubtful they could all be level 100 at the time since even certain skills/spells can cost you levels just using them. It's possible I guess, but my experiences in raiding with 40+ people were already lots of bitching at the late comers, waiting for the inevitable guys that don't take it seriously and always come unprepared would be uncomfortable.
I don't even wanna think about 600-800 people, especially when there's no big ass voice chat server and everyone is split up, and having to manually communicate, with even simple messages taking up mana.
Just the very difference in how DMMO Yggdrasil allows players to communicate versus modern MMOs would break any form of cohesion you could get.
I wonder how likely it is for the lastborn to have the lowest negative karma of all nazarick due to the mass killing she somehow contributed to during that infamous raid
>>139389737
Remember that some raid bosses were tough because of the allies they brought to the fight
Imagine facing Shalltear in an infinite mook-room
>>139392441
this is my added edit to nigel's revised part. see if it's any clearer
Just as his subordinates fell into despair one after the other, a large hole appeared in the air above them. However, cracks suddenly bloomed across the strange phenomenon. It vanished in an instant, and the scenery returned to normal.
As confusion washed over Nigun, Ainz answered:
“You know... you should thank me. It would seem someone was using divination magic to keep an eye on you, but because I was in the spell’s effective range, my anti-scrying magic protective barrier activated, and whoever was trying to observe you wasn't able to see much. Really, if I had known, I would have linked it with a higher-tier attack spell”
Those words filled Nigun’s eyes with realization. The Slane Theocracy must have been spying on him at fixed intervals.
“with just an ‘Explosion’ spell strengthened in order to affect a wide area, the peepers might not have learned their lesson after all... oh well, things being as they are, playtime is over”
read the interlude of vol 4 for the aftermath
>>139388510
>Momonga is now a boy
>>139388624
>it's alredy wrong
They alreadu changed that, dunno how will turn out this thing though.
>>139388986
Touch Me was PvP champion.
He wasn't PvM champion.
The novel confirmed that Touch Me was just 1 out of 9 World Champions in diffeent categories.
There is a world champion ranking for PvM for example which you get when you defeat the final boss of Ygg - World Eater from Ainz's mention of the past.
>>139392668
g-guys?
>>139393526
Certainly sounds better. The previous translation said something about a 'clay pot' haha.
>>139393759
chances are good
>>139393851
Chances are low, actually.
Only time Madhouse did a second season was because it was Japanese government sponsorship like NHK funding for example.
>>139392524
The vassals (there's NPCs, with names, and servants/minions/vassals, who don't) serve the Guardians, making Ainz their overlord, technically.
Also, Aura acts like Ainz's (adorable, lovely, cute) daughter, but she's still his servant. She treats him the same way Albedo and Demi do. It actually disturbs him a little when she acts excessively formal and kneels before him in v2 (Hamsuke-capturing expedition) because he feels it doesn't suit her, but he listens to her in the capacity of her master anyway.
As for the whole -dono thing, I may have just read a bad translation (Rurouni Kenshin, Kenshin calls Kaoru -dono) but it's good to know this.
And as for Duke Ainz, well, we'll see when Frostfire gets there.
>>139392424
Jury's still out on that, I think. He says there were two WCIs there because Albedo is essentially a fixture in the throne room and the throne is also part of the throne room. So if he brought a WCI with him, he wouldn't count that since it would be part of him.
>>139392787
Don't forget you drop your most expensive item when you die, so people fighting might well have lost gear which was the keystone of their builds.
>>139393526
I'll definitely go over the raws again, but I'll comment this into my draft.
>>139393813
yeah nigel already corrected that days ago but I can see where you are coming from since I also used to have a very old version of vol 1 stored in my ereader
>>139394018
>So if he brought a WCI with him, he wouldn't count that since it would be part of him.
I supposed it could be put that way and besides, it would be weird for maruyama to retcon such an important point from the wn
Also, Sky has just dropped some sort of new Overlord material in the Translation folder... guess I know what I'll be working on next.
>>139394292
new overlord stuff? what is it, some pixiv doujin or official extra material?
As someone who doesn't know about fantasy, are Demiurge and Albedo demons or devils?, and what's the difference between these two?
>>139394395
I don't think doujins have that much text.
>>139394018
>Don't forget you drop your most expensive item when you die, so people fighting might well have lost gear which was the keystone of their builds.
That's not as important, because until the 8th floor, all the drops get picked up by other people in the raid party. However greed would obviously ruin and fracture the party as it went on unless the leaders can instill incredible discipline to hundreds of gamers, which I doubt that is the case.
But it's not like the items disappear and don't play a part, for every guy who lost his key item, another guy may have gained a decent addition.
>>139394471
In D&D, demons are savage and chaotic and embody the whole passion-driven monster part while devils are cool, slick negotiators who entrap you with legalese.
The prologue parts really made me appreciate Ulbert a lot more.
>>139394486
Heh, that made me think if the reason there were so many insect minions on the 1-3renfloors was so that they could have insect swarms carry dropped gear into hard to reach places or into teleport traps dropping them into the Treasury or something.
Wouldn't that be a bitch, Shalltear stabs your tank dead and a horde of rats carries his shield into a 6 inch high slot in the walls which drops it into a teleport circle 2 feet below. And she's still rampaging through your frontline.
Get ready for Deepest Lore.
In the study of alchemy alchemy, the alchemical process of the Magnum Opus is divided into 4 sections, each corresponding to each of Tabula's creations so far. Nigredo, Albedo, Citrinitus, and Rubedo.
The process of Nigredo is the first step, which is is colored-coded "Black" and represents purtifaction, decay, and chaos, in which the alchemist turns the prime materia black into bring all out the impurities. Nigredo corresponds to this by her primary color being black, and representing his love for horror, effectively getting all the 'impurities' out of his system before moving on to his next step.
Albedo is the second step, which is the "White" step in the Alchemical magnum opus, and the opposite to the Nigredo step in that it focuses on the purity of the prime materia, and through synthesis with Nigredo, becomes a reconciliation of opposites used to move on to the next step. Albedo matches with the above in many ways by being the opposite to Nigredo in many ways, her primary color being white, and the 'reconciliation of opposites' representing Tabula's original settings of 'gap moe' where she looked pure but was supposed to be a complete slut.
Cirtrinitus is the transition from the base to the finished product, and is the third step in the Alchemical process towards completing the Magnum opus. There's no NPC by this name, but it can be assumed she would be the prototype to Rubedo. Cirtrinitus is often mixed with the final stage of Rubedo and shortening the process down to three steps, which explains why there's three NPCs rather than four.
Rubedo is the final step, finished product, and is represented by the color red. Why name his last one Rubedo? She was made using the power of a Philosopher's Stone, aka The Alchemist's Magnum Opus, which explains why she's the strongest.
>>139394815
T-Tabula is that you?
>>139394018
I totally forgot about the whole Overlord thing, so you're right, however the way they use it is so much different than Lord.
The line if I remember correct is Supreme Overlord of Yabadabadoo, but shortening it to Lord I guess might...work? For Aura given her childish nature.
But like you said, she acts formal in certain cases, and I don't know if just Lord would work when she talked with Jircniv, but at the same time I see how Supreme Overlord would be too excessive.
That aside, I don't think it fits Demi to just use Lord, he and Albedo are always among the ones who excessively praise Ainz, so not using the full title seems wrong when they wanna suck Ainz's dick so to speak (I'm referring to Demi talking to Momon in vol 6 here).
I guess it's merely the jarring difference. I think it'd be easiest to just keep the honorifics (unless there's a very simple and 1:1 fit for it) since it flows naturally to the average Overlord reader, and see how YP does it then figure out the best compromise from there. There's no hurry to race against them, because half the advantage of fan translations is the ability to correct oneself at any time at all times without the excessive red tape nonsense. Can't do that with printed press. Also because Overlord has so much Japanese influence, it's awkward to localize all that to emulate something that's meant for total casuals that wouldn't even come to discuss on here or the blog, possibly not even elsewhere.
At the very least, I've never seen the casuals that comment on manga reader site chapters ever complain about the lack of localization, and they are clearly the youtube casual upboats crowd. If such a low denominator is flexible, I think it's okay to be flexible.
But all this just makes me wonder what will happen if anyone dared to tackle bringing Youjo Senki to the west.
>>139394668
Well if you wanna put it that way, you can just imagine all the gear that disappeared when the raid took their first step on the 7th floor. Guren must have a dragon tier treasure trove, assuming it hadn't all melted away.
>>139394815
Except they also refer to her as Spinel, hinting at Tabula not finishing her designs completely. She might even be level 99 because Tabula couldn't decide what the last level to spec into for her, and that's how she isn't part of the level 100 thing.
Or Tabula might be really masochistic with the gap moe and did that intentionally. The strongest being in Nazarick isn't even level 100, but just short of it? Sounds fitting to me.
>April 1 tomorrow
>Volume 10 released
>>139394815
Where is that from?
>>139391473
>>139391521
I wonder how the manga will adapt volume 8. Will the mangaka adapt it after the events of volume 4 or will he go the same way as the light novel and adapt it only after volume 7?
>>139395126
THat might have been a bad translation too. I'll go over it eventually.
>>139395037
in one of the short if-stories that never got translated Maruyama indirectly mentioned that all the looted gears are teleported to a special room at PA's place where he inspects them and decides what to do (whether to keep, trash or melt them in the exchange box)
>>139394018
>Don't forget you drop your most expensive item when you die
That isn't true at all.
The drops are random.
>>139395528
>in one of the short if-stories that never got translated
Which one was this? Was it a BD short story? Or a twitter?
>>139395540
not that anon but I also remember reading that the best item in one's possession is the most likely to be dropped
>>139395643
I think it was written in the comment section of one of the wn chapters
>>139395647
nah it's random. What was said was because it's random, nobody ever wore their best gear.
>>139394973
Well, we know for sure Ainz hates having his titles listed, so he probably commanded them to "Call me Ainz, and save the Overlord of Death business".
And personally I'm all for the honorifics; it takes too much footnoting to detail the specific nuance of Lord or whatnot being used and there's a big variety of honorifics which can be used to differentiate characters.
Plus, most people who read Overlord are decently familiar with jap culture already or can easily educate themselves about it, it's not like the whole Bright King part in Prologue Part 2 where Warrior Takemikazuchi referenced every single Bright King and their sanskrit names.
>>139395540
>>139395743
Time to read again!
>>139395643
here it is if you are interested
http://pastebin.com/1BpUw7Xt
>>139395833
I'm doing other shit. You read it for me.
>>139395887
Well, yes, that was the intention. I'll come back with a quote for whatever I can find about the gear drop situation.
>>139395688
prologue part 1
> In addition, the developers designed the game so that the most valuable gear would be dropped first, which meant that the chances of an item which was key to the player’s strategy being dropped was greatly increased.
>>139394973
Youjo Senki has too much Nazi and atheism. Complaints would go to the roof.
>>139395757
Yeah you can't treat the Bright King part the same unfortunately, and I think Bright also somehow implies Wisdom or whatever as hell, or at least that's how the wikipedia entry calls it and I just assumed it's another one of those clever double meaning Japanese naming schemes.
>>139395838
Can't read moon but thanks, what does it mean by PA's if story? Like a what if? It's confusing.
>>139396671
as in that it's not part of the wn and it assumes hypothetical circumstances (in this case that some people from the ST tried to get close to nazarick and were killed by the external traps after somehow managing the first (of 16) defence layer). This short story focuses on PA and his important tasks at the treasury room as he envisions the loot and sends "one" of the items directly to Ainz since he doesn't know what to do of it
