Can we have a general Mobile Suit Gundam thread not dedicated to a single show (aka IBO)
What's /a/'s opinion on Gundam The Origin OVA?
>>139278679
why dont you just go on /m/
>>139278863
What a terrible thing to say to a person.
>>139278863
I wasn't aware /a/ was /a/ - Anime & Manga (except Gundam)
Seen:
Mobile Suit Gundam
Zeta
Char's Counterattack
War in the Pocket
Stardust Memories
X
SEED
The entirety of 00
My favorites are 0079, X and 00 S1.
>>139279344
>skipped ZZ
You're a smart man.
>>139279446
Not him but I felt like CCA could be watched even without Zeta.
Still need to get last 4 Origin volumes, shit expensive.
Also G Fighter is the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv-aoeTQZ2M
>>139278679
>What's /a/'s opinion on Gundam The Origin OVA?
I like it. Hopefully sunrise sees the interest and does adapts the rest of the manga.
>>139281537
I've always thought CCA made more sense if Zeta never happened. Char going all misanthrope would have made more sense as a reaction to Lalah's death where as seeing Char become a good guy in Zeta and then back to bad in CCA always seemed weird. I think they're both great though.
did you watch thunderbolt?
it's pretty cool
>>139281537
>>139281740
I have to agree. Hell CCA was dubbed before Zeta got dubbed.
still CCA sucked ass and I wish it wasn't canon. Char vs Amuro the final battle deserved better.
>>139281537
The only issue is that Z ends with Neo-Zeon, that's the only issue, but the closer they have in ZZ is such shit. Again, those three pics are all I could find that refered to ZZ:
That dude's relationship (only 10 seconds of screen time)
The vague mention of Neo-Zeon being jobbers (no mention or repercusion of their colony drop)
Newtypes getting aroused in space.
Besides that Z is good enough, more than half of the episodes are decent and you only hate the characters for three episodes each at the most. It has cool re-used animation and a variety of weird designs. If anything you should watch it to see how it cements the structure of a lot of posterior shows.
ZZ on the other hand... pure hate.
>>139279446
ZZ's pretty important for Unicorn, because it shows Zeon has newtype cloning capabilities and it features the Nahel Argama, which really just comes across as any other shit if you haven't seen ZZ.
>>139282004
Doesn't it come as any other shit in ZZ too?
>>139282004
>forgetting Mineva and Ple-twelve
>>139278679
I like Victory and 0079
Thunderbolt episode 3 when?
>>139279344
You should watch f91
>>139278679
>What's /a/'s opinion on Gundam The Origin OVA?
I like how the show capture Yaz's character design really well
I like the CGI too, dunno why so many people complain about it
>>139282163
It's already out. I think we're just waiting on raws and subs.
>>139282240
Because it looks like shit compared to Unicorn and people expected the same kind of Quality especially since it's Char Aznables backstory.
>>139282240
I'm fine with the CGI as well. It looks nice and there aren't too many mobile suit fights so it's not like it really matters.
>>139282272
Really? I think they look pretty good, especially the first episode's battle
>>139282066
Yes Pie and Pie-two were what I was referring too, I did forget to bring up Mineva though. I still think Glemy was a mistake though.
>>139282433
It looks passable because everythings CG.
The biggest offender was when Char and his family escaped with Ramba Ral on that highway.
That was terrible CG.
>>139282593
The guntank battle? Yeah, it looked pretty clunky
Also, all those Salamis explosion on the first battle looked pretty bad. They look like slo mo cotton candies
>started watching watching Gundam Z
>first episode makes me nearly drop it because of Kamille
>soldier on
>its getting gud
I enjoy it so far, besides the needless beatings that sometimes happen for no reason.
>Yo Bright, we at Titan HQ here, so we break some of your ribs and you can't do nothing
>>139282771
>needless beatings
Tomino loved dem beatings, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLU5mFoJtKM
>>139282867
they probably have a role, but some of them are pretty brutal, like when Wong kicked Kamilles head while on the pavement ground.
"Yo kid, you a pilot now, but I might give you braindamage :^)"
>>139281740
>I've always thought CCA made more sense if Zeta never happened. Char going all misanthrope would have made more sense as a reaction to Lalah's death where as seeing Char become a good guy in Zeta and then back to bad in CCA always seemed weird. I think they're both great though.
CCA makes no sense without Zeta. Without watching the years of neglect of the EF after a rebellion happened that told them to put their shit in order Char's decision doesn't make any sense.
>>139281740
>Char going all misanthrope would have made more sense as a reaction to Lalah's death where as seeing Char become a good guy in Zeta and then back to bad in CCA always seemed weird.
Here, anon
This ending may give some explanation on Char's change of heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMz7YHPIiI
>>139282967
>char being good guy and back to bad made no sense
If you simplify anything that far NOTHING ever makes sense you dumbfuck. He was literally always working towards the same goal. Did you completely fucking ignore the Dakar arc? His entire speech that accomplished fucking nothing? His realization that if he intended to get anything done he really would have to play the zeonic clown and drop shit on the earth? His entire character through Zeta to CCA is 'okay let's try it amuro's way, fuck it didn't work, goddammit do i really have to do this I guess I fucking do'
>>139282867
>that when Camille beats the shit out of a crippled Jerid
Every fucking time
![[EG]ZZ_Gundam_BD_20_Resub(720p)[EEA2FB33].mkv_snapshot_04.00_[2015.07.17_15.19.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6JOHzMq.jpg "[EG]ZZ_Gundam_BD_20_Resub(720p)[EEA2FB33].mkv_snapshot_04.00_[2015.07.17_15.19.07].jpg")
>>139282950
Made this scene pretty satisfying.
>>139278679
0080 will always have a special place for me.
Watching Bernie got hamburgered as a kid left a pretty big impact.
>>139283074
That's... what I'm saying. I mean I'll even argue that Char and Amuro are very similar people but amuro could be said to have achieved a kind of (zen) buddist enlightenment.
Digging really deeply into the Lalah - Amuro conversations is interesting.
Amuro is oddly the one in control at the end, he's teaching her.
>>139283204
Yeah I had a brainfart. Was directing that more towards the guy you responded to.
I don't understand the hate for ZZ. I put off watching it for years because everyone said it was nigh unwatchable and one of the worst entries in the franchise.
The first 14 or so episodes were kinda shaky sure, but even then I was enjoying the different pace and cast to usual. Then after Moon Moon I found myself really enjoying it.
>>139283159
>tfw Banpresto will never use 0080 units again because they're outdated hunka junks compared to all those fancy toys like Exia and Unicorn
I'm assuming the answer is no but is anyone looking forward to the TV version of Unicorn? I'm hoping they'll add some extra scenes here and there. Hopefully more of an explanation of Full Frontal.
I'll never understand why people have such a beef against ZZ. It's goofy at the start so I can get people having mood whiplash after Zeta, but people treat it like it's the spawn of satan. Overall it was pretty alright.
>>139283300
>>139283338
Well this is a coincidence.
>>139283313
Gonna watch the first 3 episodes. If Sunrise don't put anything new on it, then I'll just drop it
Already watched the OVA countless times
>>139283204
I find it odd more people didn't take anything away from the fact Char was in a notGundam and Amuro was in a notGelgoog and who was trying to be a hero and who wasn't.
>>139283250
I mean, it's pretty typical complaint from a lot of people I think mostly becuase people are just too used to "linear" development in mass media and don't pay as much attention as they should... also becuase old /m/ memes that people started to take seriously.
>>139283300
>>139283338
ZZ is a completely decent light-hearted mecha show. Although it's pretty awful as a sequel to Zeta and shits on a lot of likeable characters from previous series.
>>139283313
>Hopefully more of an explanation of Full Frontal.
Like what else? Char/Full Frontal were both characters shackled down by the wishes of their people.
It's kinda funny how seeing how the people of Zeon were to Char what Earth was to humanity.
>>139283386
It shits on Yazan, but who else? I see people use Bright as a main offender but I think Bright had more (or at least better) development then he'd had in both MSG and Zeta.
>>139283393
Frontal received a good chunk of Char's memories, which was to include his disillusionment with Zeon as a whole and his role in guiding it to carry out his aims. This is part of the reason Frontal adopts a more pragmatic legal and economic approach while still rallying the remnants to fight.
>>139283386
Also, the first 10 episodes are cringefest because Sunrise tried really, really hard to appeal to kids audiences
>>139283386
>and shits on a lot of likeable characters from previous series.
Yazan maybe. Most of the cast of the previous shows was either exactly the same or completely offscreen.
Is there a Gundam more beautiful than the RX-178-2?
>>139283412
desu bright was fine imo, he was just like "for real, I'm having to deal with this shit for the thrid time? oh well at least if past experience is anytihng to go by the kids are gonna be worth the headache"
>>139283377
If we're going by "how do people not take more away from this" then every time they inteact with people from the Federation in these shows has to be number one.
I mean right away we get treated to
>hey can we put these civilians here?
>no
>how about just the kids?
>no
>okay how about the kids who are literally 4?
>no
>>139283393
The OVAs do a pretty poor job of explaining what exactly Full Frontal is.
>>139283473
V2
>>139283412
>>139283471
Bright is pretty much there only to be the butt of Jewdough and friend's jokes. He should have smacked some sense into them like he did to Amuro and Kamille.
>>139283486
All you really need to know is that he'sa genetical clone of Char Aznable
What's wrong with >>>/m/catalog?
>>139283473
Mustachio.
>>139283486
Are you saying that there's an explanation about FF origin in the novel?
Mobile Suit Gundam has always been a pretty bad series. Do any of you seriously believe Tomino has writing talent?
>>139283522
Bright was sick of all that shit and just wanted to go home and bone Mirai, hence him ditching Jewdough and friends once they proved to be able to get the job done despite nonstop fuckups.
>>139279344
Seen:
MSG
Zeta
WitP
IBO
What should I watch if I only liked WitP?
>>139283568
Not sure I haven't read it. All I remember is them not really explaining who he was. I looked it up on the Gundam wiki afterwards but maybe I'm just stupid and missed it in the OVAs.
>>139283605
Not gundam
>>139283523
No, he's a modified cyber newtype. I like to think it's Johnny.
>>139283605
Not Gundam, that's for sure.
>>139278679
just finished watching this. ending was kinda fucked up
>>139283613
IIRC around episode... 3 or 4 they COMPLETELY dropped the ball. Tons of shit from the novels never got in, some stuff which might just be references to looking for avenir.
>>139283605
Not Gundam.
>>139283594
I don't give a shit if he has talent or not, I like his shows. Plus he's only worked on less than half of the Gundam series at this point if you don't like his shows, take your pick of any of the rest.
If you haven't watched Ideon and Be Invoked you should fuck off until you have.
>>139283613
No clear explanation whatsoever. FF only said that he's a vessel made on the image of Char and Mineva used to rely on him alot when they're still on the run
>>139282771
Z starts bad, gets good, gets bad, gets surprisingly better and then shits the bed. Its a perfect simulator of a bad long term 3dpd relationship.
>>139282433
For me the CG just feel into the uncanny valley between realism and anime. Even the first fight. Not only did it clash horribly with how nearly every other series depicts mobile suit movement, but it clashed horribly with how people moved in the same series. Unicorn managed to use CG in a way that made the mobile suits still feel like mobile suits, the CG in origin made them look like the mecha in MJP (which, for the record, used its cg extremely well), which was jarring, because the one year war suits are the least advanced mobile suits in pretty much the entire franchise. I seem to recall the main cg director also did work on eva 3.0, which had similar problems of lack of weight and moving in a way completely opposed to how the audience expects the mecha to move.
>>139283300
>>139283338
This for me as well. The animation quality shift after Zeta is pretty jarring, but overall ZZ's been pretty good.
>>139283720
heh, so far I enjoy it.
I am at episode 18 now and the animation is miles better than original MSG with its StockAnimationTM.
also in other news: Subs for Thunderbolt Ep3 when?
>>139283486
He's a cyber newtype that was genetically modified to be identical to Char, he was implanted Char's memories via the pyscoframe
>>139283553
Have you TRIED discussing gundam there? /m/ is good for some things, but Gundam discussion there is complete and utter irredeemable cancer.
>>139283120
When the guy who actually needed a slap after endagering the tripulation for no reason punches the guy we hate for doing things he never knew about (his relationship with previous pilots)?
Everyone in ZZ deserves to be slapped, including the nice hero who forgave his friends for trying to kill everyone and sell their only weapon to the enemy.
>>139283313
I'll watch it because it's TV Gundam. Not necessarily excited for it, but I'll watch it, especially since next season looks kinda weak.
>>139278679
I can't handle Yaz' Origin because I read his other works before. Now all I can see in Amuro is Alexander the Great.
>>139283817
Fucking Beecha and Mondo were insufferable for almost half the show, they spent almost every episode of the first half trying to betray the crew.
>2000 + 16
>Still noPuru Raising Project
Seriously why?
>>139283300
>>139283338
>>139283730
At this point I can only assume a lot of it is people who haven't watched it parroting other people's opinions. Not like that's anything out of the ordinary when it comes to old /m/ shows.
G-Reco was pretty shitty but can we at least agree it had some cute girls?
>>139283967
I like it
>>139283677
I have, and while it's interesting, it's still clear Tomino is a shit writer.
Even without him, the shows are actually worse. Gundam Wing and Seed are some of the most irredeemable garbage ever produced.
>>139283967
I disagree with your first point but agree with your second one.
>>139283895
And there is an admittedly jarring shift from the end of Zeta to the start of ZZ, both in atmosphere and the quality of the animation. If someone hears 'ZZ is shit, don't watch it", than watches the first episode or two, their conclusion will probably just be 'yeah, they were right, this is shit' without giving it time and space to be its own thing (it's probably a good idea not to immediately follow up watching the end of Zeta with the start of ZZ).
>>139283967
I liked it and the cute girls.
>>139283967
It was fun.
>>139283780
What about that crap in ep7 where it seems like Char's soul flew outta him when he died?
>>139284035
I fully agree with both your points. I think G-Reco is somewhat similar to ZZ in that you either like it or really don't. Tomino is kind of an acquired taste.
>>139283300
>>139283386
>When they use their friends as human shield
>when they make captain the guy who betrayed them twice
>when no one can control Z until ZZ gets there and now everyone can use it on the first try
>when Haman is faced against a wall and instead of instictively shooting at the dangerous enemy she runs and cries in her room
>when they accept surrender, make economic ties and then drop a colony for the lulz
>when the colony drop is not brought up again
>when Puru takes baths in the middle of the desert and doesn't want to let people inside while they run the risk of dying
>when no one ever tries anything besides getting in front of the enemy and shooting on your own
>when the manliest guy is the best trap
>when the guy who was a better pilot than newtypes becomes comedic relief
>when they infiltrate a militar base just walking in
It tries to be a kid friendly gundam and it's too boring to acomplish that. It doesn't have the attempts at seriousness nor was it happy enough to be an adventure show. the main antagonist are their own allies and in the end it decides to become as dark as Z in two episodes. It does have a couple of good ideas and designs, but the everything is dumbed down without adding any sense of fun or adventure, everyone is mad with each other for vague reassons except when they could kill their own friends (strapping bombs to their MS, using them as human shield because they made them do chores).
>>139284065
So useless.
>>139284021
Wing and SEED are great though
>>139284088
If Tomino was universal in why I'd go with that. But some people think dunbine is the best show ever and other people hate it for totally different reaosns.
Tomino's work is just odd and polarising and I love him for it.
Is it bad if I really enjoyed AGE?
I don't think it was good in the slightest but I really enjoy stories that take place over a long period of time or over multiple generations. Since there aren't a lot of stories like that I enjoyed it for that alone.
See stuff like Flit get old or how other characters look/act after a big time skip is really neat.
>>139283967
>>139284130
>>139283412
When no one can pilot the Z even when they did before, when all the old cast gets relegated for the new kids, when they betray them and try to sell the only working MS to the enemy, when they try to kill their comrade by shielding a ray with her cockpit, when they apoint to bigest traitor as captain and the only thing he does is leaving the role to go risk his life, when they kill the comedic relief in the last episode just to test their allied suits, when Haman can't stand the power of a child and instead of shooting him she runs to cry in her room.
Who gets a good treatment? The overpowered MC?
>>139284092
Beecha and Mondo being colossal faggots is undeniably the biggest weak point of the series but it seriously doesn't deserve even half of the hate its gotten over the years. I can get people not liking it, they probably wouldn't like goofy Tomino bullshit in general, but telling everyone else to skip it completely is a bit much.
>>139283967
She'd be cute if it wasn't for the fact that she betrayed her friends and essentially asked Bellri to die because her husbando had an irrational hatred of him.
>>139284170
>>139283594
He incorporated modern sci-fi ideas that you see in every country now, he made logic justifications to the technology that didn't take more than a minute to explain, he gave the characters time to develop in an action oriented show. I'm only talking about 0079, of course. Then the hype got to him, the only redeeming fact is that he keeps trying to do new stuff instead of entirely cashing in on direct sequels and remakes.
>>139284087
According to the wiki he did get a chunk of Char's soul with his memories. Newtypes are crazy man.
>>139284199
>When no one can pilot the Z even when they did before
Like who exactly? The Argama's pilots were all either dead, comatose, MIA, or Fa after the end of Zeta. Would you trust Fa with the Zeta?
>>139284243
>Semi-best girl turns to worst girl in mere two episodes
Sasuga Tomino
>>139283777
Z re uses animation all the time, it just looks good enough for you to not get bothered. Different budget, partially thanks to showing a new toy every single episode. Z gets bad towards the end, brace for drama and enjoy the ride.
>>139284121
Thank you for confirming your idiocy. You'd be better off posting on /m/ though.
>>139284300
The weird part is how chill most Reconguista characters were when it came to getting betrayed.
>>139283873
>half
they attempt murder because someone told them to do their chores, they never add anything to the show besides being stock 2nd pilots. Do they have any redeeming qualities?
>>139284130
I'm actually looking forward to trying Age after watching IBO.
>>139284272
>all those X-Rounder babbys they will have
>>139284243
>had an irrational hatred of him
Bellri was shooting down people with warning shots and destined to be a Gundam wielding tyrant, Mask had to stop the slaughter.
Besides she got a top tier husbando who jumps into the atmosphere to save her from burning up.
>>139284369
You'll probably be disappointed.
Or coming from IBO maybe you won't.
>>139284289
Fa already piloted it in combat situations but suddenly can barely use it, then the engineer in charge of knowing every single thing about it can't make it walk. Meanwhile every single new kid uses it in the first try.
I didn't like when Fa suddenly became a capable pilot being able to take down multiple enemies in superior suits with more training than her, but it happened.
Was that the only point you didn't agree with? I still would like to know what character gets a good treatment in the show.
>>139284356
They did chill out in the later half but then they did abandon Roux in the desert because she shit talked Judau.
>>139284424
Don't worry I've spent years prepping myself, I remember when Age aired I had such an avid hatred for it it wasn't funny and I'd only watched the first episode.
But now with all things said and done I'm looking forward to giving it a try, I like the designs and because I've been watching so much kids shit lately the character designs have grown on me too.
>>139284224
They betray the team three times and never get anything against them, they are rewarded all the time. There is no reasson to keep them around.
And I'm pretty sure it wasn't the only point I was trying to make in my post. There's more to dislike about ZZ. Maybe the biggest thing is the grimdark ending and Haman being useless until the last fight.
>>139284445
>Meanwhile every single new kid uses it in the first try.
To be fair Judau was a pretty fucking awful pilot in general until he got the ZZ, his first few sorties in the Z weren't much better than everyone else.
>>139284404
Mask please go
>>139284456
They didn't abandon her, they used her cockpit as a shield. They planned to teach her a lesson for telling them to do their part in a war situation and they could had killed her if it weren't for plot armor, she took a shot that usually would pierce through the ship. And she was the one getting reprimended for it.
Then Riva takes control of a ship just to make everyone around him cringe until he gives control to the fuckboi who doesn't do anything either.
The best thing Mondo did was get killed.
>>139284592
Ah sorry, it's just been so long since I watched ZZ that I misremembered things.
>>139284499
They were better than the people in charge of making it work, and the rest of the new cast uses it perfectly to kill trained soldiers on the first try when he gets a new MS. They also use FourVaginas' custom model like nothing. Because plot.
And there is very little fun all around. It's mostly cheap drama among them.
What would you consider a fun scene in ZZ?
>>139278679
As someone who despises early UC, I kinda like The Origin so far.
My only problem is the shitty CGI.
Turn A is not only the best Gundam, but also the best Gundam.
>>139284496
Haman was useless in Zeta in the first place. Or more specifically, Neo Zeon was useless.
>>139284588
>BELLRI, MUH KUNTALA PRIDE!
>FUCK YOUR PRIDE, NIGGA. I ONLY CARE ABOUT MY ONEESAN'S PUSSY
>>139284691
It felt a bit forced how retarded Guin and the militia became at the end because the show wouldn't be allowed to end without a big fight.
>>139284671
>What would you consider a fun scene in ZZ?
I really enjoyed the episode where Judau infiltrates Axis and meets Puru and Haman for the first time and there's stupid part where Glemy chases Beecha and Mondo when they try and rescue Leina and they steal a Mobile Suit.
The whole episode is ridiculous, and just plan stupid but I really enjoyed it.
I liked ZZ straight off from episode 1 though, so I seem to have different tastes than the majority of people who watch it.
The only real offender for me in ZZ is Mondo. People can complain about the rest of the cast as much a they want, but at least they weren't like fucking Sarah or Katz.
>>139284804
Or Hathaway Noa and that dumb slut he was thirsty for.
>>139284852
But if they weren't that way the ending of Hathaway's Flash wouldn't be so satisfying.
>>139284767
>It felt a bit forced how retarded
This is just Tomino in general.
He wants to portray something bigger then the story itself, so he bends the rules here and there.
It's not that bad once you understand it.
>>139284933
They practically dragged down CCA to shit tier territory every time they were on screen.
>>139284353
All of them are abusing their own religion and white flags as shields, people being selfish should be expected.
>>139284933
Shame it's not canon.
>>139281740
>I've always thought CCA made more sense if Zeta never happened. Char going all misanthrope would have made more sense as a reaction to Lalah's death where as seeing Char become a good guy in Zeta and then back to bad in CCA always seemed weird. I think they're both great though.
Years had passed since Zeta and people change with time. The powers that be, however, didn't, and that bred resentment in an increasingly frustrated Char and the spacenoids around him. Hell, think back to that scene where Char is travelling by train in a loyal colony? He literally just got done wiping out the existence of millions and he was be cheered as a hero of the people. That's how upset the Spacenoids were with the Earth Federation's refusal to reform. It was perfectly in character, because it was a lifetime of injustice for him and the people he represented.
And he was right, even after the OYW, even after the Titan's, even after the Neo-Zeon, and the brink of annihilation of the entirety of the Earth's population they failed to reform. I mean, shit, Unicorn was written with the idea that F91 and Victory happenhopefully, which means that even after having a century worth of sabotage of Spacenoid rights by a shadow government being revealed to the entire Earth sphere they still dragged their asses. Wouldn't you be pissed enough to say fuck it with pacifism and pull a Heinlein? Good will clearly isn't working.
>>139285062
The ironic part is when Victory happens the rest of the Spacenoids are begging the EF to save them from Zanscare but they've become near-useless after all the shit they had to deal with in the past.
>>139284723
You forgot the part where Bellri screams ' stay away, don't make me shoot!' as he unloads plasma to the cockpit.
>>139284716
Haman was hyped and at some point she took control of most of the Earth Federation. She did jack shit and focused on fighting one on one against a single ship. She even killed her own people just for the lulz.
>>139281740
CCA would've made a bit more sense if iy was part of ZZ and had more time than just feature length to do things, but that would've had the problem of Amuro taking over the MC spot halfway theough the show. Some people might prefer that over Jewdough but from a storytelling perspective that'd be a pretty shit move.
>>139284782
That was probably the best part of the show. It also had the most creative backgrounds and it felt like an adventure. I don't see how you could like the first three chapters having the same plot, the characters having no chemistry among them or the abusively grimdark ending. But yeah, tastes vary and I'm not gonna bitch about that.
>>139284804
Mondo at least had a romance arc, if you want adventure you probably shuld have some romance. What did Bitcha do?
>>139285062
>rogue organisation invades an entire colony cluster
>eh, it's not near earth so it's fine. We're just gonna wait for them to go away.
How many different suits has Amuro supposedly piloted in the void between Zeta and CCA?
I'm pretty sure it's a bigger number than his kill count and this point.
>>139285257
Not that many probably, he didn't get them wrecked.
>>139285257
Depends how far down the manga hole you go.
>>139285062
>Unicorn was written with the idea that F91 and Victory happen hopefully
What's with the paranoia that Unicorn will retcon future UC? Seriously, that's not what Nipponese do, especially if the original creator is still alive and holds some influence over his creation
>>139285426
branching futures
>>139285143
Well, when the other half of your people are worshiping the psychic space caliphate, suddenly your less crazy, albeit exhausted, former adversaries seem a lot more desirable. War makes for strange bedfellows.
>>139285476
RIP Gaia Gear, you will never be translated.
>>139283663
Nina is the worst girl ever, of any franchise.
>Betrays Kou and turns traitor, shooting at him and allowing Gato to drop the colony on Earth
>Gets no punishment whatsoever, goes back to the Federation and Earth like nothing happened despite being personally responsible for countless deaths
She's Pussy Pass: The Character.
>>139281757
>muh music
>muh hotheads
>mfw I actually enjoy watching this
>>139285617
Wasn't the audio drama version subbed on Youtube a while back? Or was that something else?
>>139283300
Let me give you a quick list of things I disliked about ZZ just so you can't understand my hate.
>The first episode is a recap
>Kamille is not the MC
>They give the Zeta to a random retard who can't even close the cockpit
>Judai at the begging
>Bitcha and Mondo in general
>All the female characters in general
>All the stupid unfunny comedy
>The mind-numbingly boring and out of place monster of the week shit (like MoonMoon)
>The fact that the shows goes nowhere for like 30 episodes
>The shitty cyber newtype drama we've seen for like 10 times already
>Everything they did whit Haman
>>139285751
It's still being translated, updated every once in a while.
>>139285878
>Judai
I know they're kinda similar but
>>139285878
>>The first episode is a recap
Because ZZ started airing almost immediately after Zeta. Gotta get all those kiddies who only saw a few episodes here and there caught up.
Plus, you can always skip it if you're fresh off of Zeta so it's kinda silly to complain about that.
>>139285982
>you can always skip it if you're fresh off of Zeta
I was going to do that but I was enjoying the gundam trivia.
I didn't think they would spoil the first goddamn episode before it even airs.
>>139286074
What'd they spoil exactly? It's been a while.
>>139286143
Basically everything about the actual first episode.
>>139285721
It's just a story of two aces clashing, what's wrong with that? It's no grand plot, it is what it is.
>>139285257
The only ones that are notable are the Dijeh, Zeta 3, and ReGZ IIRC.
>>139283473
edgy is beautiful, anon
btw, is this the edgiest gundam?
>>139285257
>Amuro has piloted more Zeta variants than Kamille
>>139286719
Why would Kamille pilot shitty versions of Zeta when he has the actual Zeta? Plus he was only piloting for like, a few months compared to Amuro's entire career.
>>139286335
This one too
>>139286831
And then he became a space jesus trapped on earth.
I've read in /m/ and really liked the idea that:
>Amuro best ingeneer newtype
>Kamille best empathic newtype
>Judeau best raw power newtype
Each specializing in a different aspect of the evolution makes sort of sense, pottery and all that.
>>139286942
>Judeau best raw power newtype
It was fun seeing Haman piss herself when Judau was angry from his imouto getting hurt.
>>139286984
Yeah, it really made their future fight look challenging and dangerous when she couldn't kill him at gunpoint against a corner.
I'd say it's his fault that she ended up doing a colony drop to save face.
>>139286942
Jewdough was reaching Aura Battler levels of raw bullshit by the end of ZZ, it was great.
>>139287036
Maybe she should've been a less shitty villain in the first place then.
I prefer the els quanta from gundam 00
Seen:
0079
Unicorn
half of Wing years ago
watching Thunderbolt now
I'm just a baby when it coms to gundam, but I loved 0079 and the other ones I watched were good.
The shier amount of content out there puts me off from jumping all the way in, not to mention more than half of it is supposed to be trash.
>>139286984
>>139287036
>>139287059
Is Judau just the best
He even gets to be cool as an old guy in spinoffs
>>139287059
So Jewdough made a cameo in Crossbone and Victory
I'm hoping that Kamille too will make a cameo inUnicorn's next novel
>>139287132
gundam has stuff some people love, some people don't, ya never know what shows you'll like no one else does.
>>139287132
Well 3/4's of what you watched is trash anyway, dude.
>>139287132
>not to mention more than half of it is supposed to be trash.
Just watch whatever catches your interest and form your own opinions jesus fucking christ. There's obviously gonna be stuff you might not like when there's like 30 different series.
>>139287059
Yeah, maybe the show should had made her a better villain, it's almost as if people had reassons to dislike it besides following imaginary trends.
>>139287399
Haman wasn't good in Zeta either
>>139287423
She was vague enough to be a challenge, Fourpussies hyped her. But Z being a bad show doesn't change ZZ doing even less.
>>139287423
This. Haman is just waifubait, she wasn't particularly interesting or good in Zeta and she certainly wasn't much worse in ZZ, she was always shit.I love her anyway though
Speaking of Haman, what do you guys think about this?
Decent?
Shit?
Cringey?
Nobody actually enjoys Victory unironically, right?
>>139287480
>she wasn't particularly interesting or good in Zeta
I just wanted to see her backstory with Char.
>>139287267
yeah, 0079, unicorn, and thunderbolt are terrible
>>139287552
meh.
Are people still translating Zero the R as Zero zearu?
Because that was fucking dumb in a franchise where a related series has a mecha called THE O.
>>139287567
It was dumb on many levels, and the story was a bit too simple for 50 fucking episodes.. Probably one of the most average Gundams I've watched.
