>halfway through the first season
>you'll never have a perfect girl such as her interested in you
I want to die. Does the show feature more fleshing out and development later on or will it just keep dangling in front of me what I'll never have
>>139080144
>perfect
>>139080347
Well, there's also Yui who's so cute that I wonder why she doesn't have any friends. And why she seems to like 8man, she could have just any guy she wishes for.
>perfect
Yeah, about that.
>>139080144
well in the LN its still dangling so yea
>>139080815
Would you refuse her as a gf?
>>139081808
Depends on my chances with her sister.
>>139081849
Don't get me started on her sister, she's even more perfect. This anime is so depressing. Imagine the bliss of having a girlfriend that great.
>>139082084
>he doesn't know
>>139082202
That's what I was asking, does the show just torture you by showing you the perfection you'll never get to cuddle or do the girls get flaws too? If it's the former, I won't survive this
>>139082275
Every character in the series is heavily flawed. Those flaws are controversial, which is why the series gets so much discussion.
As for what those flaws are, you should have seen some of them already. And by that I mean it's incredibly obvious.
>>139082202
That Haruno is perfection incarnate?
>>139082334
>hachiman a shit on all levels
>yukino is a bit cold, but a man worthy enough who could make her fall for him would be the luckiest guy in the world because of her looks and beauty alone
>yui is a bit shy, but deep down a good girl who oculd never mean anyone harm. the guy who saves her will also be the luckiest
>>139082475
>Saika is generally a boy, but suffers from femininity and troubles for undetermined sexual orientation
>>139083245
Well fuck Saika, feminine guys get no love
>>139084537
except from 8man
other girls confide in Saika
Why would I want to date someone that's even more autistic than me?
>>139084598
Imagine the sex, she looks so perfect and is always honest
>>139084629
>cold tuna
>>139084685
A body like that can't produce bad sex
>>139084784
>fucking a still-warm corpse
>>139084948
>implying she's not kinky deep inside
>>139080144
>perfect girl such as her
perfect drama queen. also shit taste.
>>139085955
Even if it's not her, there are other girls in the show who seem to be interested in a shitstain such as 8man. While I think the show is kinda fun, it just drills in the "I'll never get to know/have interested in me such perfect girls".
>>139080144
>Yukino falls in love with 8man but she has tons of baggage
>Yui has mental problems too and almost obsessed with 8man
>Both of them are complete drama queens that turn 8man's life into a living hell
>Saki and Tousaka seem to be the only people who like 8man and aren't fucked up
Never forget about the cutest cough in the history of anime.
It'll be interesting to see if Yui really does go her own way if Yukino and Hachiman get together. Evidence suggests yes she will. She already did early in the series when she thought they were dating.
Haruno mentions to Yui that other girls have tried to be Yukino's friend in the past but they always get jealous and distance themselves Yui adamantly states she won't do that, but whether she will or not remains to be seen.
>>139080144
>perfect
That's not sensei.
>>139088494
I have a really bad feeling that the girl 8man doesn't choose will not be part of his life anymore. I don't want that personally, friends end is where it is at.
I don't know what will become of Yui and Yukino's friendship. They aren't actually close at all but they care about eachother. I don't want to think 8man will hurt their relationship so I will side with Yui's promise. One alarming thing is Yui only joined the club for 8man and made that promise when she thought there would never be anything between Yukino and 8man.
>>139089083
8man will try that with them but they'll both force him to choose. Choosing neither is another way for him to inflict pain on himself like his previous solutions for problems. They will recognize this and call him out on it, forcing his hand.
>>139089083
There's a painful separation. Maybe more than one. Yui/Yukino are going to separate and if Yukino/Hachiman happens it may end as well when they go separate ways after high school.
>>139086055
>in a shitstain such as 8man
do you even watch this show? 8man is the most alpha among everyone there. that said, 8man deserves none of these 3dpd girls. they are just a mental poison to him.
He needs to return to his slice of heaven (S1E3) and stop with the bullshit drama from both YY.
>>139080347
>>139080815
She's still perfect.
>>139089477
>his slice of heaven
The wind has abandoned him.
>>139080144
>tfw you will never have a saika gf
>>139089370
But if 8man picks Yui then Yukino won't leave him or Yui. I hope. Sure they will eventually split up but there is no reason to break one of their hearts.
>>139089298
How could they force him to choose? He is bigger than them. Choosing neither would probably hurt him the least since he won't lose one and he won't have to hurt someone he cares about.
Are we even sure the girls want him to choose? Maybe they won't pursue and keep their respective feelings to themselves. I doubt both have their eyes on an end with him.
>>139089984
But he wants to grow up to be a manly man, and a nurse.
>>139089838
no, he abandoned the wind. he foolishly stepped down from his heaven thinking the 3dpd world below is better.
I blame sensei. who in the right mind would put two malfunctioning students in a single room?
>>139090302
A negative times a negative makes a positive.
Yukino is not in love with 8man and he doesn't love her. He loves max coffee and she loves Pan-san.
>>139089370
They'll probably go all to the same college Haruno goes. It's so obvious.
>>139090969
We need more tiny Yukinos.
she gets worse at the end of the first season and the entirety of the 2nd season
>>139091395
>Yukino is not in love with 8man
This. There isn't any evidence of it besides memes.
>>139092129
>she gets worse at the end of the first season
>When she finally stands up for herself
>Treats Hachiman much nicer
>Starts becoming derenon
End of S1 Yukino is probably the best one.
>>139090908
>>139090969
You look like youhave something on your mind, Hikigaya-kun.Also, Hayamin.
>>139080144
People with such shit taste as yours are the reason why Oregairu turned as shitty as crap like Nisekoi, if not worse.
Everyfuckingbody forcing MC and Mary Sue girl together, out of nowhere, especially in the second half of this series. Pathetic. It feels weird. Artificial. Planned. It shouldn't be like that. Genuine my ass, the whole story turned to something so fake and trivial and cliché that it seems the parody of itself.
>>139092303
>Mary Sue girl
>the girl with the most baggage who we already know isn't perfect
>>139092231
She is ruined in season two. She falls in love with Yui's property and has the audacity to eye rape him.
>>139092591
Does Yui know that Yukinon left with her Hikki in the middle of the night to go eat ramen and stop at a love hotel?
>>139080144
You haven't even met Iroha yet
>>139080815
Bullies threw paint on her hair?
>>139080144
>you'll never have a perfect girl such as her interested in you
I do
>>139080144
>I want to die.
Yep, sounds like the average member of the Yahari fanbase!
>>139080144
>Autistic cold fish with inferiority complex
>perfect
Take one.
>2nd season character design better than 1st
Yui, Haruno, Shizuka
>2nd season character design worse than 1st
Yukino, Komachi, Saki
Can we agree on this?
>>139093284
Well, when you don't have a gf your life just sucks.
>>139093321
Look at the beauty and the elegance tho.
It’s the usual tea-time
Even if it is just casual talk
Everything that you have ever said, I remember it all
I wasn’t able to be honest
Because of those feelings that I pushed away
All of those are really precious to me
The countless times that I looked at that same photo
I break out into a smile ever so naturally
Here’s a crescendo to you right now
Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
Let’s go to the future that I desire.
In that instant when our eyes met
My chest overflows with that gentle scene
That was gently wrapped by the dusk
Probably, the one who’s enchanted by you
is me who is right here (waiting for you)
That time when I pulled at your sleeve
I poured my wish into those words, “Someday…”
Something is beginning to change
Lapsing into silence unexpectedly
those thoughts that gradually approaches me
That sort of scene is right here too
I don’t know, (that’s why) I want to know
I am searching for (what you are) searching for as well
A high pitched pizzicato
My heart is clamoring from these unusual expectations
I hugged the stuffed toy tightly
If I can overcome these countless sleepless nights,
I wonder if that means I can go and welcome the future as the new us.
I see you right now
and I feel as though you are right beside me
Here’s a crescendo to you right now
Bringing out all those feelings that I could no longer hide
Let’s go to the future that I desire
In that instant when our eyes meet
My chest overflows with that gentle scene
I will never forget it
I want to be right next to you
Once these feelings get to you, I wonder what will happen
I want to be just a little closer to you
In the usual place, I pour my feelings into a new cup
So that you will notice me someday
Indeed, I am enchanted by you
(Know that) I am right here (waiting for you)
I hid it behind my usual chatter
These feelings of mine, maybe you have noticed it as well
Because it was just the two of us all of a sudden
The defenseless words, came rushing out of me
This important place, you protected it
I know too, that you tried your best
That unkempt hair, that cold voice
I want it to remain like this, for just a little more
You are here with me. When I am together with you,
I feel happy, but I am still a little sad.
The happy ending is so near yet I keep going back and forth, never reaching it
Please look this way; It doesn’t matter when you do.
At the corridor where the setting sun shone onto
The words that reached me from behind
You remembered our promise
I thought about it for just a little bit, and
if you noticed, the time that we have spent together
and our memories too increases day by day
The times when you weren’t honest, that clumsy smile of yours as well
I want it all, but then…
I used all my strength yet it still wasn’t enough. My heart is clamoring.
It won’t come true? Even so, I still want to be together
When I am with you, I am extremely happy, but,
I know that the distance between us is beginning to change.
Just like that snowy day when we rode the Ferris Wheel
I want it to remain like that forever
I decided then that I wouldn’t give up.
Unfair as it may be, but I won’t do it any other way
I want it to become a happy ending.
I don’t want to lose it all
I really want to be the one who’s closest to you
You are here with me. When I am together with you,
I am happy but then again, it really hurts just as I expected it to.
I am so close to that happy ending, going to and fro from it.
I noticed this feeling, I will bring it out
(The distance that is) beginning to change. I will cross that distance.
>>139093735
Yukino's character song: A Crescendo to You
>>139093882
Yui's character song: Near the Happy Ending
>>139080144Same, old triangle open ending.
>>139093735
Looks like Yukino has given up on 8man and will not pursue romance. Heavy friendship vibes from that song.
>>139093882
>I really want to be the one who’s closest to you
>(The distance that is) beginning to change. I will cross that distance.
I thought Yui gave up.
>>139094411
>Heavy friendship vibes from that song.
I don't give a fuck who you are but you go to your best friend and tell her you love her.
Literally just started this last night and i'm on ep 07 of season 2.
What are other shows like this? I liked White Album 2 if that helps
We're only going to see the beginning of their relationship, aren't we? This series seems like it's going to end before they actually do lovey dovey things.
>>139094810
This is not at all like White Album 2. There is no love triangle between friends, only friendship.
>>139094630
I don't get your point. Why would I tell someone who is my friend that I love her? Yukino is 8man's friend and she wants friendship with him. She is enchanted by friendship. See >>139095007's pic.
>yukinoSHITa
>perfect
gr8 b8 m8
I hate his jaw
>>139080144
The true tragedy is that best girl is a completely irrelevant side character
>>139095230
No the true tragedy is that Watari originally had something bigger planned for her but forgot all about her.
That's why he makes all the Kawasomething jokes.
>>139095082
>>139095082
>There is no love triangle between friends, only friendship.
Are you serious? Doesn't seem to be panning out that way. Orange haired girls seems to have feelings that go past friendship with the MC. Guess I'll finish and find out for myself.
>>139095293
Don't listen to him. The orenge haired girl is insane for him and Yukino is starting to come around.
At this point Yukino's victory is guaranteed and she's just about on her victory lap.
The question isn't what happens to Yui (her heart gets ripped out and pissed on of course), Iroha (fades into irrelevance), or Haruno (makes peace with her sister then secretly resents her for having 8man for the rest of their lives).
The question is just how badly is 8man going to crush that pussy when he finally gets a chance?
>>139095957
>and she's just about on her victory lap
I'm probably one of the few people that finds Yukino hilarious. Adorable and hilarious. If I were Hachiman I'd have way more fun with her.
>>139096638
Season 2 then White Album 2.
>>139093238
Oh shit /a/non
Do tell
Accelerator has no feelings for LO.
>>139095957
>her heart gets ripped out and pissed on of course
Is Yukino even willing to do that to her? We don't know if she is all aboard the 8man train.
>>139099299
At this point we know she is choo choo-ing full speed ahead straight to Hachiman, damn all the consequences.
>>139099342
How do you know that?
>>139099342
Yukino only wants a future by his side, wants to have the courage to tell him something, and is enchanted by him. That doesn't mean she is all in on 8man.
Why have they still not exchanged cell phone info?
I despise Yukino and I find the idea she likes 8man to be upsetting. This would be a good romance story without much drama if shitty old Yukino didn't ruin it by pretending to like 8man. What will she do to take responsibility if he starts to like her and dumps his Yui?
>when she doesn't win the genuine
>when she wins the genuine
>>139080522
eh? Yui is in the top tier school clique, also is friends with Totsuka. In fact, one problem she has is running off to be with her clique, leaving Hachiman and Yukino to get closer. She sank her own ship
>>139101953
Sup Yuipollfag, I hope you're looking forward to volume 12 as much as I am.
>>139102470
But he is right, she could easily rope in a guy that is way better than 8man.
>>139088274
my fuckingheart
>>139101631
The "Request" might indeed have that as one of its many details
>>139102588
better how? Hachiman actually works hard on projects, works hard on the school subjects for his college path, got two student councils on the right track, has good looks though has rotten outlook that shows in his eyes.
Yui meanwhile stupid, doesn't study seriously, has no plans for future other than grabbing a man.
Really it's Yui that is beneath him
>>139103217
>Really it's Yui that is beneath him
You know, when I think about it, that's actually incredibly true.
>>139103217
>has no plans for future other than grabbing a man
When did she say that? She only seems interested in 8man but it isn't like she is going to follow him through high school and into college.
>>139096680
I was the anon who posted earlier about already watching White Album 2. need something else
>>139103437
> it isn't like she is going to follow him through high school and into college
You sure about that? I mean she might not be able to get into the same college as Hachiman but I think she'd stay by his side all the way if she could.
>>139103326
Yui is pretty useless outside of her good looks and her top tier body. The only other good trait she really has is she is a really sweet person. Imagine how much worse her life would be if she wasn't pretty?
>>139103697
She's not even that pretty honestly.
>>139103820
she's cute and cheerful, even if it is forced
>>139103697
What depresses me the most is that these girls are so unfathomably pretty. Reality can only disappoint from now on
>>139103820
She is good looking enough that she is popular with guys and is in the popular clique.
Do you just not like Yui? I mean it is fine if you don't. Sure she isn't Yukino pretty but she is quite cute.
>>139102470
While she hangs out with the cool kids, none of them actually seem to be her friends at all.
In fact it seems like a lot of them don't even like each other. It's like that episode where we learn all of Chads friends aren't friends.
>>139080347
filename on point
>>139104270
Yeah, she seems to be in this limbo of being neither explicitly liked nor explicitly hated. More like tolerated. I've been there, it sucks.
>>139103697
"If you weren't x, you'd suck" is something bitter people go on about.
>>139103517
She isn't that desperate for Hikki's 8 inch Hikki. I don't see her following him around if he got a woman. I don't think she would follow him after high school because if nothing else she would confront him before then.
You really think Yui would be by 8man's side for years looking at him with "please love me" eyes?
>>139104270
>>139104446
As the story goes along it seems like she gets closer to Yumiko and Ebina seems to like her more. She seems like she is legit friends with Tobe.
It's just random luck that Yui was allowed into Hayama's clique. Miura took a liking to her for whatever reason so she as permitted in. Similar to Ebina. Most likely both exist in Miura's mind to make her look better.
That being said she is considered pretty in the story, it is mentioned at times that she is desired by other guys, and even if she wasn't in Hayama's clique she would still have friends and not be a loner.
>>139104544
If he got with someone else, sure. But if he picked Yui she would certainly try to stay by his side.
>>139087687
8man blew it when he became part of a group.
> I like in-fighting because I'm not in
>>139104629
Well yeah if he picked her she probably would latch on and not let go. I am talking about a case in which Yui is not rejected by 8man but he doesn't date another girl.
>>139104739
That's not going to happen. This ambiguity is going to end. We can be assured of it. One way or the other, Yui is going to know where she stand very soon.
>>139104254
>Do you just not like Yui?
Nah, I just don't find her pretty is all.
Are Yui and Yukino likely to 'experiment'?
>>139104782
>That's not going to happen.
Yui and Yukino are complete cowards with their feelings. 8man will have to get the ball rolling and god knows he can't into romance. The is strong evidence to suggest that they both want something more from him but I don't see the evidence that they want to do it themselves.
>This ambiguity is going to end.
If it does the club might not survive. The ambitious end makes for a dramaless end.
>We can be assured of it.
8man is willing to see Yukino's problem and that Yui is not a nice girl but is he willing to tackle a love triangle?
>Yui is going to know where she stand very soon.
Only if WW goes the romance route. Otherwise Yui is staying in her position.
>>139105028
I see. Well, I think she is cute but we all have are own tastes.
>>139105695
> Yui and Yukino are complete cowards with their feelings
Yui is. I suspect Yukino has made a decisive turn at the end of vol 11 based on her attitude there and the character song. But it seems like the end of the last volume drives home the point that Hachiman won't accept an ambiguous status quo. One way or the other, it's all going to come out.
>>139105968
>Yui is
Her character song and the duet makes me thing she wants to move forward regardless as well.
I wonder how it will go for these three once everything is out in the open. I like to think it will be tame and accepting of what happens with very little hurt feelings. The novel does hint that it won't be too bad.
>>139106479
Not too bad. quick. just a brief moment of suffering for Yui.
>>139105968
>I suspect Yukino has made a decisive turn at the end of vol 11 based on her attitude there and the character song.
Why do you suspect that? I got the impression she is going to work on herself.
>>139106959
> I got the impression she is going to work on herself.
Telling Hachiman how she feels is part of that.
>>139107007
What does her little crush on some boy have to do with improving herself?
>>139107903
It has everything to do with it. Yukino's problem is that she won't stand up for herself, she won't assert herself.
All vol 11 she's carrying those cookies for him and just can't bring herself to give them to him. She knows how she feels about Hachiman. She has to tell him. She needs to tell him. Regardless of what comes from it.
>>139107972
While what you said is absolutely correct, you have to understand that the person you're arguing with is going to continue being a retard and continuing to argue with him is a waste of time.
I want to have Saika nurse as gf
Yukino only trusts 8man and respects him. She wants his friendship. You can't very well bear the children of someone you don't trust and can't get along with.
>>139107972
Couldn't this be achieved by saying "chill the fuck out mom jesus christ" and "stop being a cunt Nee-san"? Telling 8man about her crush and alienating her only friend is not really going to help.
>All vol 11 she's carrying those cookies for him and just can't bring herself to give them to him.
Maybe she is second guessing her feelings? Maybe she just wanted to give him a gift but made too much of a big deal of it in her head, like she started to overthink it and thought that cookies = confession. I really didn't get this, 8man would have been quite happy to receive her treats and wouldn't think too much of it.
>>139108251
You appear to be right.
Yukino is the only anime girl that made me want a divorce from my waifu (i had my waifu for more than 10 years when i met Yukino for the first time).
She is truly a 10/10 choice.
>>139108251
>>139109864
I am just saying that confessing isn't a step in the path to help herself. For all we know the second she lets her feelings be known.to him he will fly off to denial land.
>>139109797
Yukino is in love with him and they're at a point where they could be considered friends.
However admitting those feelings to him could make thing end awkwardly for them and they can't be friends anymore.
Before you say "but why would he have any reason to reject her?" remember that Hachiman did tell her that he would never be attracted to someone like her when they first met.
>>139110042
Also what will Yukino do if 8man knows the her, understands her, knows how she feels, and still rejects her? That will probably have a negative impact on her.
>>139110042
It is most certainly a step to helping herself. How he reacts to it is irrelevant.
What Yukino has to do is reach out and take the future she wants. Her own character song references this:
> Let’s go to the future that I desire.
And because you'd have to be an imbecile to listen to her song and think that she doesn't have real feelings for Hachiman, then he is a part of that future she wants.
But wanting something and being able to have it are different. Even if Hachiman rejects her, what matters most is that she takes that step and goes for it.
If by some chance you are really unable to grasp this, then you have truly not understood a significant part of Yukino's character and development.
>>139110184
>Yukino is in love with him and they're at a point where they could be considered friends.
Love is a steep word, she is probably attracted to him but hormones are raging.
>However admitting those feelings to him could make thing end awkwardly for them and they can't be friends anymore.
Why not? She says "I like you" and he says "sorry" they aren't going to magically stop caring about eachother. The awkwardness will pass and they can still be friends. Romance doesn't poison a friendship, they can work together and interact.
> Hachiman did tell her that he would never be attracted to someone like her when they first met.
Come on man, you can't trust 8man. Yukino isn't so sensitive to remember that and to take it to heart too.
I am saying he would accept her treats without really batting an eye, he would not take the as "I love you" treats. She just made mountains out of molehills.
>>139110244
>What Yukino has to do is reach out and take the future she wants.
Telling her mother and sister to chill helps more than telling 8man that she fancies him.
> then he is a part of that future she wants.
She is just curious about the future she will have with him. What she wants we don't actually know.
>It is most certainly a step to helping herself. How he reacts to it is irrelevant.
Picking your battles is a good trait. If she thinks it is a lost cause with 8man or if she feels that it is better to differ to Yui that doesn't detract from herself. Her character is not tied to a crush she has on 8man.
>what matters most is that she takes that step and goes for it.
Naw, if he rejects her it would be like pouring water on her new self. It would only help her move past her crush but not the overall problem.
Are we really sure 8man is what Yukino wants? He is already there, as is Yui.
>>139111049
>as is Yui.
I don't really think Yui and Yukino really give a fuck anymore about that. It seems to me their friendship has nothing to do with romance with Pan-san.
>>139111049
> Are we really sure 8man is what Yukino wants?
Yes, among other things.
>>139111287
He has been there for about 10 months now, what more can she want.
Guys, I'm going to say this for your own good, but stop arguing with this anon
>>139111049
It is clear as day he has no idea what he is talking about. You'll save yourself a lot of headache.
What is the point of underplaying Yui's feeling and/or Yukino's feelings for 8man? Anyone who read vol 11 knows they like him way more than a simple crush.
Saika-fag reporting
and where are Saki-fags these days?
i missed them
>>139111770
I don't get why you are saying I am wrong. My point is Yukino doesn't have to let her feelings for 8man be known for her to progress.
>>139112115
I am not downplaying anything. Yukino has a crush. Yui is in deep love however so I agree with you on that part.
>>139090381
>multiplying
>not adding both negatives
>>139112795
>I am not downplaying anything.
>she is probably attracted to him but hormones are raging
>Maybe she is second guessing her feelings?
>Are we really sure 8man is what Yukino wants?
Right, you're clearly not.
>>139113200
>adding people
People multiply.
>that ending
WHAT THE FUCK???
Will there be a season 3?
>people still treat character songs as canon
>>139113391
Newsflash: Yukino isn't that into 8man and we don't know if her feelings mean much to her.
>>139114365
This. It is just bullshit that is intended to sell to fans. WW had little to do with it.
>>139114270
What were your impressions of what occurred?
>>139114365
Well I guess YY aren't interested in pursuing 8man, Iroha's heart isn't swayed by Hachiman, Hiratsuka has no regrets, Komachi isn't interested in living a life of her own without her brother, and Saika's doesn't care about his friendship with 8man.
>>139114958
>Well I guess YY aren't interested in pursuing 8man
Yui is, Yukino isn't.
>Iroha's heart isn't swayed by Hachiman
Iroha likes Hayama
>Hiratsuka has no regrets
We don't really know.
>Komachi isn't interested in living a life of her own without her brother
She has said she isn't going to look after him forever in the story.
>Saika's doesn't care about his friendship with 8man.
He does. A song has nothing to do with it though.
>>139115271
So you're just flat out ignoring the fact that Watari also took part in the song writing process right?
>>139114885
>Newsflash: Yukino isn't that into 8man and we don't know if her feelings mean much to her.
> Yui is in deep love however
What makes you so certain that Yui is so madly in love with Hachi but Yukino is just a crush? Going by your logic and setting aside the character songs, Ok?
>>139114885
All three of them are gigantic pussies. You would think after the amount of time they've spent together they'd be able to articulate their feelings for each other better but only Yui was able to even attempt it.
That being said Yukino's sister as well as 8Man's sister really tried to help them out but they're all dense or extremely stubborn. I'm gonna go with the latter seeing as how jealous they reacted to things in the final episode.
>>139115424
>All three of them are gigantic pussies
>Yui was able to even attempt it.
Look at it this way, Yukino and 8man have no one else so they don't want to lose it.
Reminder that Yui is best girl.
>>139115703
>protects her clique
>still acts like an ingrate over something obviously fake
I will never understand why it hurt Yui this much that 8man did that.
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>>139115790
What 8man did was risky. Yui had every right to be worried
Megane could have said yes and started dating him on the spot or Tobe could have started throwing his girly fists and killed him.
If Yui is going to lose the genuine she at least wants to see it coming.
>>139115375
Yui has been crazy about 8man for months and her heart depends on his actions. Yukino seems to care about him but that doesn't make it romantic in nature. Yukino has not really acted on her feelings and seems okay just being 8man's friend.
>>139115939
>What 8man did was risky.
>"I love you"
>"Nah, I don't wanna date"
LIVING ON THE EDGE
>>139115939
>Tobe
>girly fists
You probably shouldn't try to piss off the best boy.
>>139115424
>All three of them are gigantic pussies
Yeah, they are. They are not used to the problem that they were facing.
>You would think after the amount of time they've spent together they'd be able to articulate their feelings for each other better
8man didn't want to see Yukino and Yukino as anything but perfect or a nice girl. He didn't want to see Yukino's problems with herself. Yukino is a muppet and 8man contributed to it. He let her rely on him and then he became her crutch, it is an unhealthy relationship.
>I'm gonna go with the latter seeing as how jealous they reacted to things in the final episode.
What? I don't really remember jealousy in the final episode. Yeah, Haruno is trying to help her sister get over her problem.I am glad you understand that there wasn't romance implications in the last three episodes.
>>139115493
But that's what starting a relationship begins with.
Taking a risk, albeit calculated, and they should both(Yukino/8man) have realized that nothing comes from pretending things are fine as they are.
Take this from someone who's been in a similar position, if I could I would go back and confess instead of remaining friends until it was too late. But afterall, they are highschool kids, and I'm speaking in hindsight.
Pretty realistic as far as highschool relationships go, I won't lie.
>>139115939
>Megane could have said yes
God, Yui would an hero on the spot and Yukino would be even more mad somehow. 8man would probably wander off never to return.
>>139116184
Just because there wasn't a bad outcome doesn't mean the action wasn't risky.
It's like you ignored everything else in that post and are too retarded to think hypothetically.
>>139116275
>>139116275
>What? I don't really remember jealousy in the final episode
When they were at the Student council event and 8man's friend from junior high said she gave him chocolates once did you see how Yui and Yukino reacted to it? Also Yui is the primary culprit when it comes to jealousy, just look at how she reacts whever 8man and Yukino have any sort of connection when she's around. Think back to the dropped kitchen bowl incident for example.
Also what are you talking about mang. There was hella things implying romance and the existence of Yukinos sister is enough to make me think I'm right. Pay attention to the kind of things she says.
Also in the final conversation between the three, although it wasn't explicitly stated they were talking about how they were going to work out the love triangle that had developed. Even 8man commented on it saying that Yui hadn't been explicit enough with her words to really make a difference.
>>139080144
>perfect
>>139116317
That's the problem with them though, look at Iroha and how she acts freely, she's able to do that because she has absolutely nothing to lose with the way she does things.
Yui tries with what she can but always hold back because she thinks she's "unfair".
8man and Yukino hardly do anything because they don't want to lose the other one, look at how 8man thinks when something involves Yukino it's always something along the lines off "don't want to piss her off" or "do something that I wont be forgiven for".
And for Yukino this is the first person she's truly gotten close and has been accepted by, she has everything to lose by acting and failing.
>>139080522
Yui like Hachiman because he saved her dog from getting run over. They covered that in flashbacks in S1.
>>139116788
>implying
That was the initial basis of their relationship but since they became friends it's obvious she values 8man more than just the man who saved her dog.
She spent time with him alone so she got to see some of his thoughtful side.
>>139117086
What does Yui really even know about Hachiman? What does Hachiman know about Yui? Their interactions are mostly meaningless and it's Yui trying to do what she can to become his girlfriend whithout actually trying foster a strong relationship first.
>>139117338
The same can be said of 8man and Yukino. They barely know each other too.
Although it's true that a strong friendship is a good thing to have before a relationship, it doesn't necessarily make it a prerequisite.
Yui wants 8man to open up to her on a deeper level than what friends would do. They've all been friends for almost a year it seems and he is still pretty closed mouth even with them. Moving their relationship to the next level is probably the only way to get him to open up.
Yukino and 8man have an understanding that goes beyond friendship, simply because they are both loners, still dealing with the expectations/responsibilities of having friends.
>>139116574
Rewatch and think. Romance was not a big part of 8man's motivation and thought process through the last two episodes. Yukino's problem was the center of it, not the love triangle.
>did you see how Yui and Yukino reacted to it?
That was in the second to last episode. In the novel their reactions were funnier, Yui clinches her fist and looks away while Yukino drops a spoon and glares at him while her hand is on her jaw.
>just look at how she reacts whever 8man and Yukino have any sort of connection when she's around. Think back to the dropped kitchen bowl incident for example.
Yui knew that something wasn't right with Yukino and her love filled brain associated it with love. Yui took action as a way to solve Yukino's problem, not the love triangle.
>Yukinos sister is enough to make me think I'm right.
Haruno was giving Yukino shit for being a muppet, not because of romance.
> they were talking about how they were going to work out the love triangle that had developed
No, 8man was saying he and Yui won't interfere with Yukino's choices anymore which will help her do what she wants for herself. Yukino has had a hard time facing her family and dealing with what she truly wants, 8man has been there to support her as of recently. Remember what Hayama and Haruno talk about in the last three episodes, it has to do with Yukino's problem.
Only morons who don't think the series through think that the last few scenes were about romance. Yui and Yukino both like 8man but is secondary.
>>139117664
That's great, but in the entirety of a year Hachiman and Yui haven't gotten to know each other at all.
>>139117720
I think the only moron here is you.
Just watched the second season. I guess that a rough ride. Too many vague statements I don't understand.
But in the end, I really want someone to win the 8bowl, especially the YYs. I just want him to get a girl that he can accompany to the rest of his life.
Also what is /a/ reaction in last episode? I am genuinely curious.
>>139118077
>Also what is /a/ reaction in last episode?
Have you ever been in an Oregairu thread?
>>139118077
No one will win the 8bowl. He isn't out for romance and since Yui gave up on him and Yukino is going to worry about herself it is likely we will get a loner end or friends end. 8man wants genuine, not pussy.
>Also what is /a/ reaction in last episode? I am genuinely curious.
Shitstorm. People still debate what happened.
>>139117809
How so? It is a common mistake to think that the last episode of S2 had romantic vibes. It was more about the three's relationships to eachother and how they have helped and harmed eachother. Yui and Yukino's concern was not who gets 8man's dick. The only scene in the last episode that had romantic implications is the penguin sign thing.
>>139118254
What do you think the last conversation was all about?
>>139118254
It's pretty interesting how Yukino gets penguins symbolism.
http://imgur.com/a/ijCwn
Whereas Yui gets fireworks symbolism.
Volume H – Fireworks meaning
>And, we have finally come to the end of episode 9. The huge fireworks that launches up into the air at the very end. This fireworks are also one of the motifs that light up this series. As this huge flowered lights blossom into its full glory, this flowers also fade away into the darkness of the night. Because these lights are bright and beautiful, once they fall, the shadows that they leave behind are dark as well. After all, these shadows are the remnants of his bright youth being sent away.
http://imgur.com/a/TcWxy
http://imgur.com/a/xhSTs
>>139118361
Yui was trying to force the solution of none of them getting hurt but not getting close. Things not changing means they can't address the real problem, Yukino's problem, and carry on in a false happiness. One of the ways she implied things won't change is she gave 8man thank you cookies. Yukino would remain a directionless muppet, Yui wouldn't have to lose anything, and 8man wouldn't have been able to find his something genuine. Yui wanted Yukino to reject it and stand up for something she actually wanted. 8man rejects this proposal after he sees how much it hurt Yukino, fulfilling Yukino's "help me someday" wish. 8man goes on to say that they shouldn't like in deception and that he will still pursue what he wants no matter how bad things will get fucked up. Yui's entire plan was to force 8man or Yukino to act to get them out of this rut.
8man refused to see the real issue with Yukino, this ties back to the end of episode 11 and the start of episode 12.
I want toscareSaki so hard that she nearly passes out!
>>139118494
Is Yui going to get her heart pulled out and crushed? That is some bad mojo. Will Yui still remain 8man's friend if she can't be his girlfriend?
>>139118907
>8man rejects this proposal after he sees how much it hurt Yukino, fulfilling Yukino's "help me someday" wish
Incorrect. Hachiman tells Yukino to solve her own problem. Yukino is going to be the one person Hachiman will not help.
>>139119000
Yukino was about to consent to it. He saved her and that is the last time he will. He helped address Yukino's problem for once by telling her to solve her own stuff. Yukino finally came back to her senses and told Yui to fuck off.
Still, there were no romantic implications.
Yui+Yukino duet. Might as well since people are denying a lot of what the series is about and the others were posted.
>Yukino: I heard it coming from deep within me
>Yui: The obstinate expectation of mine
>Yukino: (I want to) bring it out
>Yui: With all my strength
>Both: Wouldn’t it be nice if I could do that with a smile?
>Yukino: I don’t need the usual superficial things
>Yui: It’s okay even if it’s just an incomplete wish
>Yukino: The solution
>Yui: Is right here
>Both: Don’t you want to find it as well?
>Yui: The feelings that I hid
>Yukino: Even if I were to say it out honestly
>Yui: It will surely not reach you
>Yukino: But still, I knew it
>Yui: I don’t want to be disliked by you
>Yukino: I know it
>Yui: but yet
>Yukino: I still
>Yui: Want to know
>Both: A little about our future. I am scared.
>Both: If I were to take this (first) step, I wonder what’s waiting for me
>Both: Although no one knows it,
>Yukino: but for me
>Yui: This scenery
>Both: You are shining brilliantly inside it
>Both: Surely, I will come to rely on you without knowing it, and give trouble to you as well, won’t I?
>Yui: The irreplaceable
>Yukino: one
>Both: I wonder who that person will be
>Yukino: Those times when you don’t look to be in a good mood,
>Yui: you still listen to what I have to say.
>Yukino: You pretend to be
>Yui: Not interested at all
>Both: You are by yourself yet again
>Yukino: With a side profile that looks like everything’s already been done
>Yui: That’s because you don’t understand anything at all
>Yukino: But still,
>Yui: before I knew it
>Both: We were looking at each other yet again
>>139119186
>Yui: Clumsy you may be,
>Yukino: you are still kind as always
>Yui: I guess it’s still unfair, huh?
>Yukino: Although it’s vexing to me
>Yui: But perhaps, it is only
>Yukino: with you
>Yui: being
>Yukino: right
>Yui: beside me
>Both: that I could be myself.
>Both: The sadness that strikes at me for no reason
>Both: crushes my heart.
>Yukino: Let’s not
>Yui: think about
>Both: all the painful things anymore
>Both: My heart becomes untied and our faces have the same smile
>Yui: Be it your truthful thoughts
>Yukino: Or your bluffs
>Both: I will accept them all and that will become our future
>Yui: I wonder when it happened.
>Yukino: That something so near
>Yui: could feel so distant from me.
>Yukino: I can’t hold onto it anymore
>Yui: These feelings that are spilling out of me
>Yukino&Yui: Although I still have my doubts,
>Yukino&Yui: but right now
>Both: I think it’s quite enjoyable
>Both: Once I take this (first) step, I wonder what’s waiting for me
>Both: Although no one knows it,
>Yukino: but for me
>Yui: this scenery
>Both: You are shining brilliantly inside it
>Both: Surely, I will come to rely on you without knowing it, and give trouble to you as well, won’t I?
>Yukino&Yui: To become that irreplaceable one
>Both: I wonder what is it that I can do
>Both: Let’s move on towards the future.
>>139119102
Yukino was going to consent to it because she always caves in to what Yui says, because Yui is her only friend.
>In the face of well-established logic and words, Yukinoshita was quick to turn people down. But whenever she was pressured by sentimental words and gestures, she’d cave in surprisingly easy. Source: Yuigahama’s usual exchanges with her.
>>139119315
Yes, the fact that she can't stand up to it despite how much Yui's proposal hurt is part of her problem.
Still, no one has debunked my assertion that there was little romance in the last episode.
>>139119642
>Yes, the fact that she can't stand up to it despite how much Yui's proposal hurt is part of her problem.
Not really. Yui was making Yukino choose between her feelings for Hachiman and preserving her friendship with Hachiman and Yui. Yukino doesn't want to lose her friends.
>Still, no one has debunked my assertion that there was little romance in the last episode.
Because that entire notion is retarded.
>>139119779
>Because that entire notion is retarded.
Why? I don't see the romance.
>Yui was making Yukino choose between her feelings for Hachiman and preserving her friendship with Hachiman and Yui.
Yui was making Yukino pick between genuine and ungenuine but happy.
>>139119779
>Yukino doesn't want to lose her friends.
If Yukino didn't want to lose her friends then she should have been happy to accept Yui's proposal.
>>139119642
>no romance
are you autistic?
>>139120192
So, then that means she wants Hachiman more.
>>139120748
I guess that would be the case if she found the friends option the disagreeable one. I wonder how she will obtain this Hachiman. Maybe she will use a large basket, a stick, a piece of thin rope, and an opened can of MAX COFFEE.
>>139120635
No. I don't think there were any romantic oertones in the last episode. The 3P date was more than them trying to deal with the love triangle.
>>139116734
If YY stay and do nothing he will get eaten up by another girl. How will they feel then? It might be nice not to feel the pressure of their feelings.
>>139119642
>>139119102
>>139120082
>>139121449
Stop it, you're delusional. The last episode was exclusively about romance, what else can you call the strained emotions the girls were barely hiding the whole time? They clearly have romantic feelings for Hachiman and the fact they both brought cookies for him and got sentimental about penguins should have keyed you in to that. Though it seems that it did, and you're just denying it.
You said Yui was making Yukino choose between genuine and ungenuine, but what do you think "genuine" actually means here? Do you really believe it has nothing to do with romance?
>>139080144
More like the most stuck up bitch ever
>>139125343
Hello pre-volume 2 8man.
>>139125343
Yukino is pretty great though.
Assuming Yukino doesn't win, how much will the stress and anxiety that she has accumulated during the story affected her? Will she even recover if she wins?
>>139125441
She'll probably just go abroad.Then 8man will abandon Yui for her at the last second.
![[Commie] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku - My Teenage RomCom SNAFU TOO! - 03 [57627F30].mkv_snapshot_16.32_[2015.04.17_12.43.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ghIZTb7.jpg "[Commie] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku - My Teenage RomCom SNAFU TOO! - 03 [57627F30].mkv snapshot 16.32 [2015.04.17 12.43.51]")
Why are they so perfect for each other?
>>139125986
>no harem ending with YY + Haruno
it would be a dream come true
>>139125441
She will be fine if she wins and has a "genuine" relationship, but if she doesn't win she won't be able to talk to Yui or 8man anymore and she'll go back to being a helpless puppet. You saw her almost break down internally in the last episode. Haruno would probably be pissed.
It's really hard to imagine a world where she doesn't win though, since Yui doesn't have the guts to beat her directly; Yui doesn't want Yukino to be miserable either and hates herself for the times she didn't play fair. She wanted all three of them to stay happy but there's no way it will end that way if they need to end up with something you could call genuine.
someone post the Iroha or death webm, just finish the movie
>>139125986
>yfw Vol. 12 makes Haruno 8man's soulmate and Yukinoshita Inferior loses again
so, who does 8man end up in the LNs
>>139126170
thx, kek at She smiled at 8man. Now i can understand the meme but better with audio (bgm)
>>139126132
Saika, it is canon where Saika is a closet girl and was impregnated by 8man with love.
>>139125834
Perfect ending
10/10
would read/watch again
>>139126131
It'd be amazing if Wataru really had the balls to do it. Haruno is basically Hikigaya if he was popular. His self-sacrificing, playing the villain personality is pretty much text book Haruno. They're basically the same person in different situations. Not to mention Haruno definitely likes him, at least platonically.
>>139126336
what the fuck did she sacrificed? At i could see was she is a manipulative, flamming bitch.
Btw, pls stop the platonic bullshit
>>139126336
The shitstorm would be amazing. MAL, Reddit, and /8maninhighschool/'s would be on eternal suicide watch.
>>139125834
white album 2?
they have the same hair color scheme as well
>>139126403
>btw, pls
Stop talking like a bitch. She spend the majority of her early life dealing with Yukino's autism and ruined her relationship with her so she can stop trying to copy Haruno's life like a pathetic mime without a personality. Which didn't even work so apparently she wasn't even enough of a bitch to get through her dumb sister's skull.
>>139126738
yeah watever. I though Yukinon was forced to be elite by parent
>>139126738
You know, I want to personally thank people like you. You give me the motivation to carry on with what I'm doing. I'm always second guessing if I should actually go through with this out of fear that it will tear the fanbase apart, but you make it easier for me. No regrets, no holding back. Thank you for being such a disgusting and wretched human being. See you in a few months.
>>139126900
Nobody cares. Just kill yourself.
>>139127011
Sure, but not after publishing this.
>>139092303
wow, a made-up story that's artificial and planned. Who would have thought. /a/ is so autistic it literally can't handle fiction.
>>139126515WW is secretly Murata all along
>>139080144
God fuckin dammit this is why we don't have much people. Put yahari/oregairu in OP dammit.
>>139126738
She sounds like an insane and immature asshole.
>>139128617
No
and Fuck You
We had discussed many possible endings without focus on supposedly supporting characters. So, what are the endgames for them?
>>139130540
>We had discussed many possible endings without focus on supposedly supporting characters
That's because the prevailing attitude in these threads is that all the supporting characters are a waste of time to even acknowledge because they're supporting characters, for some reason.
>>139130540
Most of them probably aren't going to get much closure.
The ones that may are Hayama (and by extension Miura) and Iroha.
>>139130901
sure, Hayama will reject Miura and if Iroha asks again she'll get 2nd rejection, though she is already rejected.
Hayama won't get any closure do to his issue, his whole life will be a pile of lack of closure. He'll get married to someone planned for him, not to whom he has love.
It is clear the main characters will get closure, and someone will be badly hurt
>>139130856
>>139130901
well, i have no previous experience on LN.
I feels sad for the side characters if without proper disclosure
>>139129363
Fuck you I'm not discussing if OP is shit
>>139130540
Iroha will probably confess to 8man and get rejected, so that 8man can experience the Orimoto thing from the other perspective. They'll remain "just friends" after that most likely, and I assume she'll be kept out of the dumb relationship melodrama from that point onwards.
Clearly something regarding Hayama and 8man is going to happen, it's been building up to it for a while, I'm not particularly sure what though.
The other supporting characters (though Iroha basically is a main character at this point given the amount of focus she's gotten, regardless of how people in these threads using "main character" and "chick that might end up with 8man" interchangebly for some reason) probably won't get any sort of closure.
>>139131580
What is going to end for Saki and Saika and Sensei too ?
>>139131580
Hayama will get inspired by Hachiman's changes over the past year, and decide he will make a huge change to himself, going after what he really wants, "Y".
This will put him at odds with Hachiman, who will also realize he wants the "Y" (no not the social-status seeking big-tits airheaded one)
Hayama has leverage to get the "Y", he can tell Yuki-mom that her daughter is getting feelings for and following a certain undesirable rotten-eyed lowlife commoner.
Hachiman has leverage to get the "Y", he has ally in the face, representative and heir to the Yukinoshita family.
Hilarity ensues
>>139131717
What exactly is there to do with Saki? She kind of has a crush on 8man, but nothing major. She's going for her scholarship and college. Her life is basically ok. Same with Saika.
With Sensei the only thing hanging is the ramen date with Hachiman after graduation. If it's actually shown, I bet it's Hachiman + Yukino or Hachiman + the whole Service Club.
>>139131717
I could see Sensei getting a nice scene with 8man alone right at the end to wrap things up, what with how the series starts with those two and all.
Saki and Saika though, I don't see anything. Especially Saika, he is pretty much just a comic relief character.
>>139131809
the club should someday take as self-request the finding of Sensei a man. They know her hobbies, interests, issues; who better to do that?
>>139131859
Saika can be friend for life to Hachiman; play tennis on weekend or go see scary movies for "guys night out" even after Hachiman gets a girl
>>139131921
I don't even mean closure in a "will he end up with anyone" sense, I straight up mean that I wouldn't be surprised the author just doesn't bother giving those characters any general sense of closure at all beyond merely being present at the ending (if even that)
>>139131991
What are you expecting for 'closure'? Most of these characters don't have outstanding concerns that need to be addressed.
>>139131991
>merely being present at the ending (if even that)
It hurts, man. Btw, let's just imagine the possible endings/future for them.
>Saika become cute male nurse
>8man inspired, become a doctor and share the same hospital
>>139124125
>what else can you call the strained emotions the girls were barely hiding the whole time?
Realization that Yukino's problem is real and affects them.
>The last episode was exclusively about romance
So you don't think Yukino's problem played any role in this?
>sentimental about penguins should have keyed you in to that
Yukino realized she was stepping in Yui's territory and Yui was just conscious that 8man may only have one friend at the end of this since she doesn't want to be his friend.
>but what do you think "genuine" actually means here?
>Do you really believe it has nothing to do with romance?
A relationship where 8man doesn't have to guess someone's motivations and one that isn't dipped in deception. It certainly isn't pussy.
Romance with 8man is secondary to both YYs and for all we know it won't be explored.
>>139132050
well yeah that's my point, the anon was talking about closure for the side characters but there's not much for there to even be closure for in most cases
>>139131186
>and someone will be badly hurt
Are we sure he is going to pick one? Both of them ain't going to take rejection well and 8man likes both.
>>139132094
Closure may be the inappropiate word. What its means was the future or the stand they took in the endings. Like someone mentioned Saki going to get scholarship, the closure would be confirming and maybe where does she go to study and remotely maybe reasserted her crush to 8man.
>No roast, i am weak now.
>>139126403
>>139126855
>>139128693
What exactly did you guys think Haruno was getting out if it if you thought she was being selfishly manipulative? It's been obvious for ages that she's a weirdo who's looking out for her sister in her own weird way so that Yukino doesn't end up like herself
>>139080144
Thats the cruel reality that we have to live with anon.
Smart dignified girls like her don't exsist.
>>139132087
>Romance with 8man is secondary to both YYs
Yup. Neither has been concerned at all with romance with 8man. It is probably irrelevant who he sticks it too.
>>139132493
I was aware. She's still an asshole.
The day the series is over the day these shitty theorycrafting will be over. I am tired of you idiots contemplating these scenarios and throwing hissy fits over who has a the better opinion.
What letter is ANOTHER up to now?
>>139132533
of course they exist, but you won't find them at the stereotypical gathering places of young people nor will they usually be associating with people who value such things
>>139132842
that's still several notches above what you are doing
>>139091649
Isn't Yukino's whole class dedicated exclusively to teach kids who're going to study abroad?
>>139133091
Either planning to go abroad or who have come back from studying abroad.
Both may apply to Yukino.
>>139132986
I understand that,but the way i look at it Dignity is pretty much dead.
90% of girls are alcoholic little sluts listening to whatevers popular at the moment.
While the other 10% percent are shut ins.
Atleast thats how it is where i live.
>>139132844
R will be released April 28; hopefully the kind and very generous souls that have been translating them will do that one
>>139133197
yeah Bless them.
>>139133091
but the Japan University is great itself
>>139133148
The fastest way to know if you are a virgin litle bitch who rarely gets any action whatsoever is if you generalize 90% of women are sluts. Let me guess, the last time you had a girl show interest in your faggot ass was what 3rd grade? You poor pathetic little fool, so angry at how his life turned out he has to shit post on a /a/.
>>139133148
They aren't "shut ins", they do have outside things they do, but you need to think about what that might be. Cultural events, charity/church, etc.
>>139133267
Literally me. My first and only unconfirmed crush is like ten years ago. and now, i am growing into a pathetic fuck, leeching on parent
>>139133255
>Not aiming for the street cred of getting a yuropean degree.
It's probably not even her choice anyway. Hopefully she isn't sent to Germany.
>>139133267
Jesus fuck i didn't mean literally sluts.
i meant in a way that pretty much all adolescents do the same thing nowadays.
Where im from if you don't listen to whatevers popular music wise and if you don't spend 100$ on alcohol in one night then you're fucking weird.
And i know from experience and having met a LOT of girls that do the same shit like that.
Thus the generalization.
>>139133415
It seems like it's usually an elite Anglo-American university that is the "exotic prestigious foreign school" in anime.
>>139133267
whoa, being a little judgemental are we? did someone strike a sore nerve? pic related
>>139133475
yeah but maybe not exotic. The entrance will be a hell lot of harder in Japan and also other Asia countries like Korea and China. Tell me /a/, is the American and UK university lenient in taking student? How is the intake determined?
>>139133267
you must be a strong independant womyn that don't need no man huh?
>>139088617
Ha, she's so cute when she's trying to regain her self-confidence.
>>139133138
Pretty much the guarantee the reason she was sent abroad when younger was to help learn the language for when she is sent abroad again. I'll even guess that it is prestigious science school in the Americans that her family wants her to attend after she graduates, one of MIT, Harvard, Princeton, CalTech, Stanford or Cambridge
>>139133364
You can still change but it will require a lot of discipline and you not being lazy. I could give you a blueprint to get you started but I am too lazy at the moment.
>>139133470
Amusing, I didn't know slut had multiple meanings.
Bunch of bullshit and you know it. There are plenty of people who don't drink alcohol and can still have a great time at parties. It is all about how you frame yourself and have enough respect for yourself to not give into the popular thing to do. Believe me college is the time when individuality rains supreme over generality. Be you and other like minded people will be drawn to you.
>>139133576
No. I used to have that nonsense way of thinking and it got me nowhere. Used to honestly have this arrogant attitude "not like I was interested in that skank anyway, probably blew that guy she talking to." Until I realized that I was limiting myself with my negative thinking.
Call it a blog but the only person in this world truly stopping you from gaining new experiences and meeting new people is yourself.
>>139133816
She chose science path?
>>139133640
for sciences? no way, the top ten are in U.S.A, England and Switzerland. U. of Tokyo #11 though
>>139133974
It would be legendary man. Just imagine when i become sufficiently success to be interviewed, i could proudly said an anon from 4chan change my life on that day.
>>139133986
i dont belive the ranking shit
>>139133979
No, that's what her family expects as Hayama is going liberal arts / humanities track. Hence the shock and dismay of Yuki-mom.
It is interesting to discuss that decision, is Yukino just pulling a Yumiko to stay with friends longers, or, given that she loves to read is that path really something that is more in tune with her heart's desires. I don't see her as person whose love and passion as science, and I'm very qualified to judge!
Actually it depends what the student (undergraduate) want for a science major.
>PhD researcher
>commercial researcher
>expert in certain science field
>>139134152
the Cunt is going to inherit anyway.
I maybe love science but i love money-making and career-ensuring science more.
>>139134105
rankings aside, extraordinary high starting salaries of graduates aside, the world's leaders in the science fields coming from those school aside...yeah I guess those places are just diploma mills riding out the name
HAHAHAHAHA
>>139133816
> Pretty much the guarantee
I don't know that it's necessarily guaranteed. WW has gone out of his way to be coy about Yukino going abroad.
>>139134432
I was only talking of her family's intentions (which she's already run afoul of in vol 11), not what she'll really do
>>139134473
Even when it comes to family intentions I don't think we really know.
Is it her family that wants her to go abroad or does she want to in order to try and escape her family? Everything about Yukino/abroad has been written in a vague unclear manner. Hinted at but never really explained.
Talking about the side characters from earlier. One thing I think we can feel assured about is that if Hachiman does end up with a girl, we HAVE to get the side characters reaction to that.
If he gets with, say, Yui and we don't get to see Miura's response to that I will be quite upset.
>>139133974
I don't think thats how it works anon.
Your personality and attitude have nothing to do with how and how many people you meet.
It just boils down to pure coincidence.
You're right about the individuality part though,well atleast i hope you are.
>>139134420
the top ranking ones sure are good but on what field? Do those graduate become good from those uni or they are good themselves as were selected?
>publication determines rankings, shitposting on shit journals using shitload of taxpayer money
![[HorribleSubs] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru Zoku - 07 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_12.38_[2016.03.09_14.01.04].png](https://i.imgur.com/88vaJCZ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru Zoku - 07 [1080p].mkv snapshot 12.38 [2016.03.09 14.01.04]")
I'm going topumpanddumpthat smile.
>>139134709
what is the saying on pic?
>>139134604
does it matter if they are the places best people go or that select best people? Fields? hard sciences, computer science, mathematics, medicine (well toss out swiss school from that list and put John Hopkins in its place).
Yukino could do well but is that what she loves? I know what high school kids who love the sciences do, and she isn't doing it.
>>139134583
personality and attitude can well affect the kind of girl that likes you. Interests are a part of personality, and that will determine places one frequents and the kind of people one meets. The serious and dignified girl isn't going to be getting smashed at the bar or dancing like a slut at the disco all hours of the night. there is much more going on in any community than night life and partying.
>>139134917
Well, as younger boy, i believe i like science and want to be a scientist. But career in science is different to loving science, like being a researcher bothered by university politics and grant application.
>>139135080
I understand that,im not the kind of guy for night life and partying so i usually stay at home,but what other options are there.
The "night life" nowadays is so widespread and a majority of people are a part of it,so naturally i assumed that everyone is like that.
Even people at my university,you take one glance at them and you instantly see they are like that.
If you know any places where one could meet a serious and dignified girl i'd be happy to know where.
Of course this isn't for the reason of me getting a gf or bullshit like that,i just want to confirm they exist.
>>139135421
not him. Maybe library or bookstore or community service?
>>139134869
Me, sick in the head?
I am not sick in the head.
I'm sick in the head. (Sick)
>>139135493
I frequent the library often and still there are the same kind of people there,the only difference is that they are studying between their "partying break"
As for community service i don't know,might be worth having a look at.
As for the whole thing this legitimately got me interested in finding out if there are people like that out there.
I've lived under the impression my whole life that everyone is pretty much the same.
>>139135493
>Maybe library or bookstore or community service
what he said plus museums, art shows and performances/fairs, arboreum/greenhouse, hobbyist organizations, public assemblies at city hall or county seat, career fairs, book and art stores
>>139135894
anon, you did went for a great length
>>139135894
A fair suggestion anon.
That will help with the research.
Thanks.
>>139136055
Last but not least effective, try date-matching
>>139135947
former girlfriend was to be found at ALL those places
>>139136136
Im not doing this for the sake of finding a girlfriend like that and i have no intention of trying.
I just want to meet a person like that because i honestly never did.
i am going to eat ketchup bean straight from the can whilst staying on this thread
I cant finish it all.
Bye bye
>>139137598
atleast you tried.
>>139137675
thx, goodnight
>>139137724
Goodnight man.
>>139080347
first post best post
8man has no reason to pick a YY or reject one. In fact he benefits from not doing so.
>>139080347
more like her mom is the one with issues that are causing Yukino problems. She and Saki are still the most interesting and best girls in OreGairu, the others are more or less typical
Orimoto - disrespects Hachiman, wants to be popular and do popular things
Yumiko - spoiled bitch who surrounds herself with chosen "cute girls" to make herself look good, treats friends as slaves
Yui - airhead who can't follow serious conversation, values social standing so hangs with the #1 clique, runs from Yumiko and Hachiman to be with them
Iroha - uses Hachiman, values social status and so pursues Hayama while only flirting with Hachiman
Ebina - doesn't want serious relationship that would upset her clique; would rather Hachiman kiss Hayama than her anyway
Meguri - just wants everyone to be excited and have good time
>>139138956
nonsense, the huge benefits of having real girlfriend who he can have deep understanding and fellowship with far outweigh the comfy club benefits. He needs to hurt the extraneous one and tell his feelings to the one whom he is fascinated with, worries about, syncs with, has chemistry with
this card tells it all; Yui is torn between her cliqueue and Yukino and Hachiman who are closer.
>>139139066
That is if he loves her. We don't really know if he does. She might not even love him, there isn't much evidence she does.
>>139139189
As long as we're on the subject of petty victories in the endcards let us take a moment to appreciate FEEL's Max Coffee™ card.
>>139139770
8man already has MAX COFFEE and doesn't need what Yukino provides. Instead of sharing they both have the same thing, this means they won't be together.
>>139139830
it's symbolic, they have found "the genuine thing" with each other
>>139139924
Really though the endcards don't seem to make sense.
In every other card the Coffee is being traded for something else. In this case however Yukino seems to be giving it as a gift. Or perhaps she traded an old can of Max Coffee for 8man's fresh can. I'm not sure if these things were ever meant to be analyzed. The only certainty is that having 8man and Yukino on the last card is a victory.
>>139139770
this fan card is even pettier; I like it
>>139139924
Yes, genuine friendship. Not lovers though, Yukino isn't interested in that.
Don't you stay up all night thinking about friendship while hugging a stuffed animal, are enchanted by your friend, remember every word your friend says, look at a picture of your friend and smile naturally, and constantly think about that time you stared into you friend's eyes?
>>139140117
We need to get even pettier.
Pic related proves that there are HachiYuki shippers at FEEL.
>>139140217
> just a little bit farther away
Symbolizes the entire story for Yui.
>>139140217
Ever heard of perspective? Yukino is a bit in front of 8man and Yui is way in front.
It doesn't matter, even if he loves her she doesn't love him and only wants his friendship.
>>139140217
more accurately, a shipper stopped by while that being made and insisted make it they way, name was Watari Wataru. He also had a name for this attached pic's scene, "the sprouts". Really, that YukiXHachiman shipper needs to stop interfering and tampering with the work
>>139080144
>perfect
"I drive"
>>139140350
Friends don't stair longingly into each other's eyes for 20 seconds straight unless they have some level of romantic interest in one another.
>>139126336
The problem is while Haruno likes him platonically, 8man doesn't.
>>139140665
Haruno is sadistic and manipulative. She toys with people for her own amusement.
The only person who would be happy with her is either someone who can outpace her insanity or a masochist. That having been said, she would get bored with the latter in a matter of minutes.
>>139140350
yes, considering perspective Yui is further from the two than the picture would suggest. Here's a pic of what Yui saw as she ran to be with her clique, leaving Yukino and Hachiman some quality time together, where what Yukino reveals is the core of the story
>>139138985
>Orimoto - disrespects Hachiman, wants to be popular and do popular things
>Yui - airhead who can't follow serious conversation, values social standing so hangs with the #1 clique, runs from Yumiko and Hachiman to be with them
>Iroha - uses Hachiman, values social status and so pursues Hayama while only flirting with Hachiman
Why are you ignoring the latter end of their development when describing them? I mean it doesn't negate the ability to hold your expressed opinion so it's not like there's any reason to
Setting aside the "who will win the 8bowl" thing for a second (though I'm convinced that some people here are straight up unable to comprehend doing that), is there any particular reason why 8man and Yukino are the only characters that most people (or maybe it's just a very loud minorty, I dunno) in these threads are able to acknowledge any change in character/personality in? It's really bizarre
>>139140810
she toys with Hachiman and Yukino for a purpose, the pleasure of fucking with their heads is a side benefit
>>139140651
They were just being awkward. Yukino was moving her lips in disgust and leaned in because she was tired. She squeezed his wound so he would snap out of it.
>>139140844
There is literally nothing wrong with having friends. Not Yui's fault Yukino is dependent on him and wants him to save her.
>>139140999
Shippers ruin everything.
>>139140999
considering "latter end of development" for my list, hmmmm let's see:
Orimoto - only after seeing Hachiman could be influential on floundering student council does she think they could be friends, yet even then mocks his "service club".
Yui: proposes keeping the status quo and she'll take Hachiman at the end.
Iroha: develops as student council president, but not in relationship to Hachiman or Hayama. My overall assessment of her was correct.
>>139140999
It is the same guy who always says this shit, I mean the exact same shit. Literally the only thing he is interested in is HachiYuki.
>>Yui - airhead who can't follow serious conversation, values social standing so hangs with the #1 clique, runs from Yumiko and Hachiman to be with them
He says this several times a thread.
>>139141040
wow you left out major part of the story with (Yukino) "wants him to save her". That being, Yukino wants to save Hachiman; she said as much while it went right over his head.
Watarin's new Chiba siblings.
>>139095957
> Iroha (fades into irrelevance)
Iroha will be the new Haruno in the sequel. I can already see it.
>>139141171
you left out the part where I usually say Yui is tits and a smile.
I would be interested in Saki/Hachiman but sadly Watari himself admits to forgetting to write more about her, though there is a LOT more about her in the LN. She's the other best girl that has way more complexity than most
>>139141271
if she is back in story it will only be as rival to Yui and Yukino; they'd really have to up their game if Iroha went full tilt after Hachiman
>>139140999
It's just the Yukinofag chunk taking their opportunity to circlejerk now that the threads grew quieter. Invest everything you have into helium if 8man ends up with someone else.
Yukinon update
http://i.imgur.com/ocktqnx.png
>>139141150
are you that anon who thought that Komachi hated Hachiman because of that "well I don't you love but thanks anyway" line? describe your thoughts about the rest of the cast please, you're hilarious
>>139141203
Well yeah she does. Sensei asked it of her in the beginning. I guess 8man is just another client to Yukino.
>>139141150
>Yui: proposes keeping the status quo and she'll take Hachiman at the end.
She wanted it to get rejected to help the group.
So which YY wants to 8man's woman?
>>139141655
I disagree, Yui would gladly have gone with the solution she proposed; even said as much in monologue with being fine with a lie. She was sad and shed tear Hachiman rejected it though she suspected he would
>>139141705Yui Yuigahama's mother
>>139141740
That would be pretty fucked up if she wanted to do that for real.
>Yukino, I know you can't say no to this so I will make you be my friend and I will take Hikki; you will have to be okay with it
Yui wanted it to be shot down based on her actions. She wouldn't have done it so openly if she did want it to happen that way for real. Her character song suggests that she didn't want it to go down that way.
>>139141652
Not me, Komachi is brocon and loves Hachiman. She wants to be in same school as him and probably join/continue service club by hints. Constanly schemes to hook him up with someone and maintains database of eligible women in Hachiman's life.
Haruno - finds Hachiman interesting, likes him (platonically), and wants him for brother in law. She'll be a weapon for the endgame.
Hiratsuka-sensei - had situation in past where she chose to not respond to confession. She sees something of that with Hachiman whom she likes *way* more than is proper for teacher/student relationship. Hachiman has had more "dates" with her than any other female character.
Kawasaki - loved and lost, had her heart broken by the "Yuu" we see in the bridge graffiti. Black lace panties are symbolic, she lost her virginity. Hence her grumpy and detached disposition
Ebina - kind of likes Hachiman, you can see the pain after his joking rejection of her musing if he could be boyfriend for her that doesn't upset her clique relationships. However their are also subtle hints she really does like Tobe, chance for that in the future
Totsuka - may really be gay for Hachiman; oh well at least can be friend for life
Zaimokuza - despite all the denial and insults, really has been a bro to Hachiman at times, going above and beyond to help
Tobe - likes Hachiman as a helping bro; likes Ebina and hasn't given up
Hayama - back stabbed Tobe undermining his confession plan, just uses Yumiko, stringing her along for two reasons but has no feelings for her. Those two reasons are: help keep other girls away, and maintain comfy clique
>>139140350
if it was due to perspective, yukino would seem to be a little taller here, which is not the case.
>>139142230
don't use logic against a denialfag (aka Yui shpper); it's like pissing up a rope
>>139142230
So what if Yukino is a bit closer to 8man? It was probably subconscious rather than intentional of her. All it might be is to show that Yukino and 8man are back to being on the same page.
People who think Yukino liked 8man should be banned.
>>139141976
>Yui wanted it to be shot down based on her actions
No, Yui herself wants Hachiman as her boyfriend and Yukino as her best friend and the trio to stay together. After witnessing the infirmary scene, she realizes that Hachiman and Yukino are in love with one another, however Yukino is unable to confess her feelings. Yui pulls that stunt to end the status quo between them. Yui at first gave Hachiman her cookies, being as vague as possible, but Hachiman didn't react to this. Then she focused her attention towards Yukino and said that she'd solve Yukino's problem and the three of them could remain as friends if Yukino swallowed her feelings for Hachiman. She herself would have been fine with Yukino swallowing her feelings, but at that moment Hachiman stepped in for Yukino's sake. At that moment in time Yui realized which of the two means more to them, that's why she said she knew Hachiman was going to do this. That's why the single tear rolls down her eye. She knows she's out of the race.
Reminder that anything in the second season might as well not be canon
Apart from iroha
>>139142307
>>139141040
So, why did Yukino move her lips like that and lean in? My thinking is that she was at a loss for words but her moth was moving like she was trying to say something. The leaning in I have no explanation for.
>>139142517Shit taste and kill yourself
Mah nigga
>>139142526
A realization hit her like a ton of bricks, that's all. She was not aware before
>>139142173
>Not me, Komachi is brocon and loves Hachiman
Not really, Komachi wants a boyfriend of her own and already knows that she and Hachiman will eventually drift apart.
>>139142817
"brocon" can just mean doting and worries/obsessed with brother, just as Hachiman is siscon. Didn't mean to imply extreme form of that; of course Komachi wants a boyfriend and already has candidate. Too bad a few choice Komachi/Taishi moments cut from anime like during the strategy meeting about elections with Kawasaki and Zaimukusa.
>>139142445
Her character song makes it seem like she isn't out of it yet as far as she is concerned.
>>139142800
Well hopefully she can sort it out, if she never grabbed his knee who knows what he would have done.
>>139142817
>Komachi "If My Onii-chan Couldn't Control Himself And Raped Me I'd Be Okay With It" Hikigaya
>not a brocon
>>139143226
>Her character song makes it seem like she isn't out of it yet as far as she is concerned.
Sure, doesn't change the fact she knows which of the two means more to Hachiman.
>>139143325
Possibly. She does explicitly say she wants to become the one closest to him, maybe she already knows there is someone closer to him in the present.
Still, I don't think Yui is out of it, even if it is likely she will lose. For all we know no one wins.
>>139143438
no one wins? Hachiman already is far different from when the school year started. I'd argue he's won already, and the two girls are precious to him. Any romance or genuine lasting friendship would be icing on the cake
>>139143970
He might fuck it up bad. What if the girl he doesn't choose isn't really interested staying by his side? Maybe the girl he likes doesn't like him. What if he ends up breaking YY's friendship?
>>139144096
It's just a risk he'll have to take or the sake of something real, anything else he doesn't need.
>>139144096
even so, I want us to think, writhe, struggle, until we find....
>>139144283
I am just saying there is a chance no one wins.
>>139144318
I know he is going to try to get what he wants but are you sure they want what he wants? For all we know genuine means nothing to Yui and to Yukino it is just another way to fix him.
>>139142336
doesn't like him, hmmm....
to Yui: "don't you tell me how I feel. this isn't the final anything"
to Hachiman: "Hikkigaya-kun, we still have your request"
>>139142336
If Yukino doesn't like 8man then why is he the only person who can make her laugh?
Why does she give him MAX Coffee?Why did she try to rape him in the infirmary?
>>139144444
Back the fuck off
>>139144586
>If Yukino doesn't like 8man then why is he the only person who can make her laugh?
Friendship. Friends make other friends laugh.
>Why does she give him MAX Coffee?
She knows his taste like a good friend should.
>Why did she try to rape him in the infirmary?
You never wanted to have rough, unprotected sex with your friend?
>>139144444
She just wants to solve his request.
>"don't you tell me how I feel.
She didn't like the fact that Yui tried to make it seem like Yukino liked him too when her feelings are not love for 8man.
>>139142173
Yumiko deserves so much better than the cunt
>>139144586
Not to mention Yukino's deteriorating mental condition with loss of motor skills, coordination, proper posture and facial flushing. Hope Hachiman isn't carrier for some kind of degenerative neural vector.
>>139144829
Agreed, she should have that big strong quiet guy in her clique; he looks to have the patience to put up with her fiery outbursts, and the stature/stamina to give her long, long nights of intense loving and release.
>>139145114
How about you go fuck right off Yamato?
>>139145114
Yamato can satisfy multiple chicks at once. Or so I've heard.
>>139080144
Such perfection. If Yukino was real, I'd marry her on the spot.
Do you guys think there will be ANY couples other than possibly Hachiman + one of the girls?
One of the interesting things about this series is that there exists no romantic relationships whatsoever, outside of married parents.
>>139144976
Spaghettinon a cute
>>139145181
"Hey baby, go out with me tonight and get the big O at the end of YamatO!"
>>139144976
don't get flustered don't get flustered don't get flustered
>>139145318
Watari mentioned in one of the Afterwords he'd love for publishers to let him do a Ebina/Tobe story
>>139145466
How big do you think he is?
8man is going to pretend neither Yui or Yukino are in love with him, act like a phony, and try to sacrifice himself for their sake. He will be left alone but feel okay about it.
>>139145305
>Yukino's period blood chocolate
No thank you. I am glad she never game 8man treats.
>>139145534
Nah, that's what he did during volume 11. He's done with that shit.
>>139145585
You're a rather disgusting human being aren't you?
>>139141583
I'm just talking about a possible sequel with new characters.
>>139144735
So do you mean Yukino wants to marry 8man only as a friend? This is new.I like it
>>139145425
and how
>>139145466
Why would anyone go for cunt or 8man when this handsome adonis is around?
>>139145651
Watari is one of the writers in the Qualidea Code project, two of the characters are siblings. Besides anime he's co-authored one of the LN in the project (and working on another one). Very interesting fact is that the Hachiman-like protagonist of that comedy LN at the endhas sex with the cover girl (an Iroha/Yukino combination)
>>139145770
Yep. Wants to marry him as a friend, have his kids as a friend, live and grow old together as platonic friends having platonic sex every night.
>>139145955
the only thing I can figure is that most the girls aren't "straight" so wouldn't do what any normal straight girl would do. Hachiman has several times commented on Yukino and Yui's "unhealthy" somewhat YuruYuri relationship; and you can just tell Yumiko and Saki really are a hair's breadth away from savage lesbian hatesex. As for Ebina, well hell we all know what she would say to any boyfriend "don't stick that thing in me, go stick it in that guy's ass and let me watch"
>>139146160
My di-, no wait, heart? I'm confused as to what type of reaction I'm supposed to have.
Looks like she's about to have Zaimokuza's second offspring.
>>139146538
Absolutely disgusting, pregnancy does not suit her well.
>>139126116
Late response but you won't be forgotten, anon.
>>139146160
This is perfect, I wouldn't mind if this is the actual ending. (a shame it will be a dramashit instead)
>>139126170
>People still post that Borderlands ripoff meme film
>>139146160
So that means Yui can be his girlfriend since he won't have one.
>>139146895
Yui will be his girlfriend. The two will be passionately in love which they will never consummate or acknowledge in any way.
>>139146966
While living in different countries as Hachiman platoically raises the children of another woman.
>>139093735
>>139093882
>>139119186
>>139119224
If I am reading these right Yukino and Yui are all in on having a future they want with 8man regardless of other shit. But this begs the question, only one can have what they both want but there are two of them. What is going to give?
>>139147218
Penguins and fireworks.
>>139140217
Since Yui and Yukino are friends can't Yukino share her Pan-san with Yui? Yui has wanted this Pan-san for the longest time.
I know there aren't many of us, but please post Saika.
>>139147360
Yukino and Yui's friendship isn't that strong.
>>139147868
But this Pan-san is big and two people can cuddle with him at the same time. It would strengthen their friendship.
What is a way 8man can protect both of their smiles, protect both of their friendship, and find genuine?
>>139148437
when it comes to protecting smiles, two out of three isn't bad. but someone will have to take the dive into disappointment, rejection, heartbreak. Yukino and Hachiman have both been there, done that. Yui needs the character building crushing of the soul
>>139148437
Choosing Yukino, it's already guaranteed that Yui will never abandon Yukinon.
>>139146572
Does pregnancy suit any woman well if you only consider appearances? reminder that you came from the womb of a pregnant woman, anon. it's unslightly, uncomfortable, painful, annoying for the woman, day after day, while looking forward to an excruciating delivery that might prove maiming or even fatal.
>>139148842
Some women pull it off.
![Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru Zoku - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_19.51_[2015.06.30_17.55.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DZPOctD.jpg "Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru Zoku - 13 [720p].mkv snapshot 19.51 [2015.06.30 17.55.51]")
So was this "help me someday"?
>>139148842
She looks terrible pregnant because she still looks like a little girl.
Pregnancy only looks good on adult women.
>>139149141
No, Hachiman isn't going to help Yukino. She will be the one person he doesn't want to help. If Yukino can solve her problems on her own and then confesses to Hachiman, that means her feelings for him are real and not just because he is helping her as opposed to literally every other girl in the series that fancies Hachiman.
>>139149141
No.
Despite Yukino being the person that 8man wants to help the most, he's the only person who can't help her.
>>139149246
But what if he helps her by making sure that she solves her own problems?
>>139149299
He has already paved the way for that in the last moments of volume 11 by telling her to solve her own problems/choose her own path/decide for herself what she wants.
>>139149401
Exactly! That's why that scene was the "help me someday" request. He did help her there. The only way you can help her. That's why she responded so strongly to what he said.
>>139148649
Can 8man and Yukino smile when they both know Yui is hurting? I don't want either YY hurt so maybe the romance plotline will come to nothing.
>dive into disappointment, rejection, heartbreak.
Witnessing the infirmary scene and the bowl incident wasn't soul crushing enough?
>>139148840
Every other piece of evidence so far has shown that yui will fuck off if HachiYuki happens. Even if she stays Yukino's friend she won't be smiling and she won't be 8man's friend.
>>139147218
You are reading it wrong. Yukino will not pursue 8man and has no interest in him romantically. She will fix his problem and leave his life or be his friend.
>>139149869
>"You helped solve all my problems, as thanks I will now say 'fuck you' and leave forever. God genuine is great"
Some of you seriously need to grow a pair. All this whining about protecting smiles and keeping everyone happy. Some of you are acting like Hayama. And we all know how BORING he is.
Let hearts be broken. Let friendships come to an end. That's love and that's life. To want anything else is despicable.
Thank god Hachiman isn't as pathetic as some of you.
>>139151142
A bunch of us are aboard the "genuine no matter what the cost" train.
>>139151142
Says the one not willing to lose anyone and purposefully putting up a fake act.
Whose confession is this in vol E?
>>139150046
As opposed to
>now that I have solved my problems I and am walking to the future I desire I want you part of that future. I want to x nd something genuine together.
>>139151451
It's Hachiman.
>The circumstances that he and I were in were different, except for maybe just that one point, where he and I held the same worries.
Hayato and 8man during Kyoto.
And when he abandons his convictions for superficiality.
He abandons the prospect of Genuine.
Towards the end of Vol11 he begins to wonder if abandoning it and taking Yui's offer would be the right thing, but as soon as he saw how it effected Yukino it wasn't the right choice.
>>139151572
>x nd
*find
All that said I think she can become his friend.
>>139151142
I am sure Haruno will enjoy picking up the pieces of Yukino off the floor.
>>139151816
Because Yukino is so happy that she is making out with her edgy Pan-san themed boyfriend?
>>139151816
She's used to it.
>>139151701
Why did Yukino react so negatively to Yui's proposal? It would have made her closer to happy then dealing with the fallout that would from them being honest.
>>139151875
No, that is from an alternate reality where Yuimom has to deal with Yui sobbing every day.
>>139151971
Because Yukino never says no to Yui, she's her only friend.
However Yukino has a strong sense of justice and unlike 8man she never turns her back on her convictions, she may have a dependency on people but her strong beliefs are hers alone, she was basically making the choice to either keep those beliefs and be herself or give on being herself and keep Yui but have Yui tell her what to do.
>>139152134
So Yukino was not thinking that Yui was removing her path to big Pan-san in exchange for a nice ending?
Counting down the days to Yukino's glorious victory.
>>139154172
Yup. She will marry Pan-san and 8man will marry a MAX COFFEE giving girl. Yui will marry Hikki.
>>139080144
s2 ruined her for me to be honest.
>>139155052
The only thing that ruined season 2 for me is that they didn't include more Yukino moments.
So is Yukino in love with 8man? I watched the series and it seemed like she liked him but people have saying that she doesn't. I know Yui loves him and no one seems to dispute it.
>>139155327
At this point, saying she's not romantically interested in Hachiman is shitposting.
Is this a new Yukino daki? I don't think I've seen artwork of her in a blue bikini/underwear/whatever it is.
>>139155379
So it is shitposting and there is no legitimacy to the theory? The anime spells it out that she likes him but you never know since she has a few issues.
>>139155728
Another YY dakimakura for 8man to collect. What will they when they find his stash?
>>139092303
Agreed. Season 2 ruined the spirit of the show.
>>139155728
>tfw no Saika daki
>>139149141
>>139149246
>>139149281
He did help her by not letting her agree to Yui's proposal; but she has to solve her identity and direction and family problem herself
>>139157556
Yup. And once she does she will be able to welcome YuiHachi with a smile.
>>139151964
funny fanfaction - Yukino knocks Haruno's hand away when she tries to display a little affection. And her mother, you'd think Yuki-mom was a reptile the way Yukino reacts to her
>>139157675
No, she will welcome the new future for HachiYuki.
>>139157675
as if
>>139157736
Her character songs makes it seem like she is interested in having a future with the person she enchanted by. We don't know if it is a romantic future or who it is with. It may be Hayama co all we know.
>>139157904
No, YOU don't know. Don't put words in other people's mouths. Just because you don't know, doesn't mean the rest of the fanbase doesn't know what is going on in the series.
>>139158243
She says in her song that she has been holding feelings in and that she hasn't been honest, that fits her relationship with Hayama for than tall Pan-san.
>>139158363
Yuipollfag at it again
>>139158363
Yet everything she references in the song is referring to Hachiman.
Just give it up this nonsense, man. She likes Hachiman. That doesn't mean she's going to get him. But there's absolutely not a single of doubt anymore that she is romantically interested in him.
>>139157904
Yukino wanting Hayama?! the king of superficiality?! oh my sides!!!
>>139158871
She still loves him after all this time. Ever notice she always starts shit with Miura and is always aggressive with her? It is jealousy over Hayama. Notice that Yukino never gets jealous about 8man?
>>139158458
A lot of those can be applied to Hayama too.
>>139159330
None of those can be applied to Hayato.
She doesn't serve him tea, see him in the clubroom, or have been searching for him.
>>139159405
>She doesn't serve him tea,
She probably did when they were younger. She is probably waiting for him to make a move, Yukino says she is waiting for the enchanting one.
>>139159405
Don't bother. These fools are either shitposting or are so delusional they won't believe Yukino likes Hachiman until she comes out and says "I wanna have your rotten eyed babies 8man".
>>139159532
>She is probably waiting for him to make a move
Make a move and you're dead?
>Yukino says she is waiting for the enchanting one.
The one she is enchanted by and who filled her heart with expectations after a certain scene at Twilight.
The only person she's been with at sunset is Hachiman.
>>139159633
She is just still upset over what happened. We know she hasn't been honest about her feelings. She has had scenes with Hayama during dusk too.
>>139159867
Name one.
>>139159867
Everything about the song was in accordance with it being directed at Hachiman. For it to be Hayama, you have to presuppose that every reference to Hachiman is actually a secret reference to Hayama based on details of their past we are not familiar with.
In other words you are claiming the entire song is a con by WW to fool people. Think about how retarded that sounds.
>>139159964
>wrong as expected
>>139160022
Resorting to the name of the series is always the surest sign that a poster has nothing left to argue and is now casting about in sheer desperation.
>>139160022
The title is named after Hachiman's situation.
>>139160076
8man's hopes of a romance gets crushed as expected and he was wrong as expected. The Chad gets the girl without having to do shit.
>>139160170
>All those hoops he jump through for her.
>Everything he did was for her.
>He accepted her for who she was while Hayato abandons her at every turn.
>Always chose her over her perfect sister.
>Chose her over superficiality.
>Still loses her to Hayato.
What does genuine look like, /a/?
>>139160316
Like this.
If you are a Yuifag or an Irohafag and don't want a Yukino end to happen and are trying to establish an alternative, you need to give up on the "Yukino doesn't like Hachiman" argument. It's settled and finished. Saying otherwise makes you look a drooling idiot.
But that does not mean a Yukino end is assured. For one thing I definitely do not believe Yui is out of it. In fact, even though of all the possibilities Yukino end is probably the most likely, I would say that collectively the non-Yukino endings are more likely than the Yukino one.
All hail OYSTERIOUS
I wan to kill that Cunt!
In order to improve the mood of the club 8man should discretely imply that he really wants a girlfriend in front of Yui and Yukino.
>>139160406
I only argue what I believe. I don't care about weaving any narrative. I don't think Yukino is in love with him.
>>139161300
> I don't care about weaving any narrative
Sure bud
best era of ponkan
Worst era of Ponkan
>>139161335
I don't care if Yukino loves him. I just don't think she does.
>>139161904
She will still love him.
There is no proof that Yui loves him, she didn't even give Hachiman any special treats.
>>139160406
What do Yuifags even gain by Yukino not being in love with 8mqn.
>>139163004
Elimination of her principal competition.
Why is MC so gay for silver trap boy
>>139162954
>There is no proof that Yui loves him,
Fuck you are retarded.
>>139163683
Prove it.
>>139160540
strangely enough Hiratsuka and Yukino both asked him if he had any friends or girlfriends at the beginning, as if they thought he needed both
>>139164577
my bad, meant Yui asked him directly besides Hiratsuka. Hachiman twice declared to Yukino that he had no friend or girlfriend.
>>139164172
Watch the series. It is really obvious from the second episode on.
Yukino fell out of love with 8man.
>>139165887
>Yukino fell out of love with 8man.
She did. She started crushing on him a little during vol 7 but after the Ebina confession, the STUCO fiasco, and him being an ass in vol 9 she fell out of love with him. The night before genuine she finally completely fell out of love with him.
>>139160298
"Yahari" is more like "That's the way it goes" rather than "as expected"
An end where Hayama gets Yukino fits that better. 8man's romcom will be wrong meaning the ending will be wrong.
>>139165887
> Yukino fell out of love with 8man.
Nah that's Yui. She made the cookies for him but then decided to just give them to him as a friend after deciding she doesn't really love him anymore.
>>139166208
Feelings aren't light switches, it takes time for someone to fall out of love.
>>139166283
It had been obviously building for a while. Like when she declined his offer to go out in vol 11.
>>139166146
>An end where Hayama gets Yukino fits that better. 8man's romcom will be wrong meaning the ending will be wrong.
the purpose of the story is that 8man is wrong about his romance being wrong as he expects
>>139166413
Precisely. Just think about it. The entire story is about how he is constantly wrong in his expectations. Nearly every negative outcome he has expected has failed to come to pass.
Now he thinks rejecting Yui's proposal will leave him alone and he's wrong about that too.
>>139166650
So what do you think will happen?
>>139166895
I don't really know. What I feel pretty confident in is that there won't be a loner end. I am also certain both Yui and Yukino have romantic feelings for Hachiman and are going to tell him one way or the other in vol 12.
>>139166995
But Yui and Yukino are friends. If they li8ke the same guy their friendship will suffer, especially if he gives one of them the dick.
>>139167229
Their friendship could very easily get destroyed. Hachiman still won't be alone in the end though.
>>139167229
Congratulations, you watched the series
>>139166320
She did that because she didn't want to be unfair. Yui is afraid the love triangle will blow everything to shit since she found out Yukino also likes the same piece of man meat as her.
As I said feelings aren't switches, neither Yui or Yukino has fallen out of love.
>>139167293
8man can act like a complete dumbfuck again and get them to abandon him. Is romance with him or having a future with him that high on their shit I want scales?
>>139167312
Thanks. At least I am not deluded.
>>139167581
> 8man can act like a complete dumbfuck again and get them to abandon him
That's not going to happen. Again, remember that he expects that he'll be alone. And we know that's wrong.
> Is romance with him or having a future with him that high on their shit I want scales?
It's not actually about whether the romance is successful or not. It's about telling him how they feel. It's about taking the step and seizing what you want. And yes, especially for Yukino doing so is more important than any friendship.
>>139167726
>And we know that's wrong.
8man can find a way. If anyone could fuck this up it is him.
>It's not actually about whether the romance is successful or not.
So rejecting them will have no real repercussions? Then it isn't really an issue.
>It's about telling him how they feel.
That is such a common theme, to not be a bitch and say what you want.
>is more important than any friendship.
Yui and Yukino are cute together. I am sure 8man likes their romance more than any that he can have with them. Though if my chinese cartoon watching experience is worth anything I can't see their friendship ending well.
>>139167381
Love isn't fair, Yui just doesn't care about 8man.
It's why she let's him go anywhere with Yukino without following.
>>139080144
Are you 12? Holy shit off yourself
>>139168014
> So rejecting them will have no real repercussions?
It'll have repercussions. All I know is he won't be alone in the end. I suspect that means that he'll still be close to at least one of them no matter what happens.
> I can't see their friendship ending well.
I agree. I think it's coming to an end.
>>139168143
I guess it is probably better for 8man if he remains close to one. I don't think he is getting his cake and eating it too though. Maybe he gets something genuine but loses everything else. Being alone might not be so bad however but I can't see everyone abandoning him. They would probably see through any plots he may hatch up.
>I think it's coming to an end.
Maybe opening themselves up to be hurt might make them stronger friends. Once the dust settles and tempers cool down they can like eachother again. I am sure 8man would be happier if they were friends regardless of him.
>>139168524
>Maybe he gets something genuine but loses everything else
He's perfectly fine with that considering eh only wants something genuine and nothing else, and the fact that he's risking everything for it.
>>139169044
So maybe he is absolutely okay with losing either Yui or Yukino.
