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How do we fix KyoAni?
>>139013136
How do we fix other studios*
Hire better writers.
>>139013136
the key to this is a second season of amaburi
>>139013365
also this
Damn it's almost like KyoAni's practice of paying good wages while not overworking their staff results in better looking anime
Liberate them from adapting shitty LNs.
>>139013452
All LNs are shitty though
Christmas cake harem.
It's the only way.
Adapt more key material
>>139013763
Don't make me agree with you, you fuck.
>>139013726
Not all, but the ones Kyoani adapts are.
More Kyoani originals.
>>139013136
That animation, I am diamonds now.
>>139013812
At this point I don't any studio would go near key material.
>>139013136
>grimgar
That's just A1 being A1
>>139013136
Another nuke
Have all their shows air on late night blocks. Allow explicit nudity.
Anime is saved.
>>139013763
>harem
You fucked it up
>>139014508
>Have all their shows air on late night blocks
They already do.
How hard would it for other studios to adopt KyoAni's business model?
>>139014925
It's literally impossible.
>>139014925
You mean only producing haremshit and SoL? Quite hard because other studios are not talentless like kyoanus.
>>139013413
i think hai to gensou no grimgar has a really distinct artstyle and focuses on immersion and relations whilst musaigen no phantom world is rather episodical and focuses more on abilities rather than characters/personalities;
you cannot compare these two, they are different in almost everything. i like both, even tho mnpw would have been better with a continuous story featuring a main antagonist.
>>139015054
He's not talking about the quality of the series as a whole. It's about the quality of the animation and visuals. You can clearly see how shit the animation is on that Grimgar's bit, and that's not just because of a "distinctive" artstyle, while KyoAni maintains its quality(regarding animation) throughout the whole show.
>>139015054
>you cannot compare these two, they are different in almost everything.
Are you serious? You just fucking did it yourself in the first sentence you wrote.
>>139015281
well he said "better looking anime"
which is object to taste; i just wanted to show that the two are complete different from each other and have different artistic approaches; both in visual and in storytelling.
i like both for what they are.
>>139015281
He's just being a retard. You can't compare a studio working on one show and a movie and a studio working on 6 shows and 1 movie.
I wonder how KyoAni feels when they see studios like DEEN putting two and a half interns on Konosuba and still selling like hotcakes.
>>139015607
Probably nothing since not even Kyoani cares about Phantom World.
>>139015607
I don't know, how does every other studio feel when they see KyoAni make the same show 10 times and get away with it?
KyoAni is a studio founded on the idea that they don't want anime to look like shit. It's only natural that their shows look better than studios that literally overwork their employees to death just to meet deadlines because of all the stuff they try to churn out at the same time, crossing fingers for at least a couple of them to be hits. KyoAni doesn't only manage to keep good animators in-house because of things like their wages, their location, or simply because they train their own animators, but they also have great scheduling and take their time with their projects, so the animators can take their time making good animation, since they get paid by the hour too, so their stuff end up not looking like the production was rushed.
>>139015607
>Konosuba and still selling like hotcakes.
I love this meme
>>139017009
What? First volume selling over 30k it's not selling like hotcakes?
Kyoannus butthurt.
>>139017453
>First volume selling over 30k
What.
>>139014925
because no money like you anon
>>139017009
/v/ermin pls go and take your shitty meme replies with you.
>>139013136
Force them back into Kadokawa's fold at gunpoint since they can no longer be trusted to pick materials themselves.
>>139017453
>selling over 30k
Not even Shit Ass Online did that you fag
>>139013413
...while neglecting the script and material source.
>>139017798
Unless the first volume of SAO did significantly below the series average, it did.
>>139016951
...and yet the shows themselves are still wet garbage.
>>139016951
But is it sustainable? Hell, people called Disney the Tiffany of golden-age Western animation, and even they nearly went bankrupt after their animators strike and the war. If you can't work up good writing to go with your good animation, you're up shit creek.
>>139017989
They've been making more money than ever since the Kadokawa split, and even moved to a bigger building.
>>139015607
I hope it hurts So they start making good things again instead that Musaigen garbage.
>>139017637
What? Are you seriously surprised that the best show this season, the funnier one, the most exciting and just a bit below PW regarding the animation and visual aspect is selling so good?
>>139017989
I don't know about Disney, but I don't see KyoAni having a writers' strike any time soon.
>If you can't work up good writing to go with your good animation, you're up shit creek.
Not really. If you can't make money, you're up shit creek. If you think that necessarily takes either of those two things, I suggest you remember that SEED Destiny is the fourth best-selling anime of all time.
>>139018090
>writers' strike
Animators' strike. Fuck, I shouldn't type while reading other parts of your post.
>>139018013
I'll move YOU to a bigger building! With huge showers, and everything! The biggest you've ever seen! Showers to die for!
>>139018088
>and just a bit below PW regarding the animation and visual aspect
I don't believe you. It's fucking DEEN. I demand proofs.
>>139017637
>>139017798
I think he's referring to the LNs
>>139017989
Why would they strike? KyoAni has been the only studio that constantly gets their anime over the 5k mark regardless of how popular the series were before the anime started.
>>139017764
I thought /v/ermin loved KonoSuba. Make up your mind with your meme accusations
>>139018206
>
/v/shits are all over the cuck meme in Boku Dake threads.
>>139018231
What's that have to do with KonoSuba?
>>139018206
/v/ermin pls. Go back to your containment board with your memes. Stop shitting up /a/.
>>139013136
I wish they'd stop reusing the same artstyle everytime. It's been five years since nichijou. How lazy can they get? Try something new.
I really hope they don't use it for koe no katachi. That style would ruin it.
>>139018599
>That style would ruin it.
>implying
KnK is already shit, anon.
>>139018599
Agreed.
I can't stand the Yui faces anymore. I have been saying since day 1 that KyoAni wasn't fit to adapt KnK.
>>139015281
But those well choreographed fight scenes tho.
>>139014925
It would mean killing pretty much what little individuality animators had.
>>139018798
The first episode hyped me up because of that, then Mary happened.
>>139018881
But the other well choreographed fight scenes tho.
I like how desperately everything fights. Very few enemies go out without putting up some sort of struggle.
>>139014925
What is so unique about KyoAni's business model?
>>139019068
Mainly that they adapt their own IPs and pay animators by the hour.
>>139019068
probably not churning out adaptations and a high rate and high employee burnout rate, but focusing on the animation quality and having masters mentor younger animators also a some anime-original ideas
>>139013763i still swear to god i heard about that sol drunk christmas cake 4koma getting adapted
>>139018599
>That style would ruin it.
You are so fucking stupid oh my god. KyoAni's style is already close to KnK's, and yet idiots like you are gonna shitpost endlessly about the movie looking like their usual style when it inevitably does so because THE MANGA ALREADY DOES.
>>139019223
There's a sol drunk christmas cake 4koma?
>>139013136
Right now the issue is honestly writing. Since they lost Key and their own IPs are genuine crap, I would say that they need an honest to god good writer, or at least someone who can do cute girls doing cute things right.
>>139019342
VEG
>>139019342
the flow of the dialogue and the world building is genuinely interesting I think, what about it is bad?
>>139019068
They have actual employees.
>>139019272
What is that pic trying to prove? That the original style is totally different than you're average KyoAni's? Because it's effectively doing that. That pic in the top left corner is proof enough.
>>139018147
>only 30k LN sales
I know that's considered popular in the LN world but come back when it sells 100k+.
>>139019342
Get Masahiko Ohta to Kyoani and make it great again.
>>139013136
Remove A-1.
>>139018088
>just a bit below
>DEEN
Fuck off fag
>>139013136
Kyoanifags like you are the cancer killing /a/. Fuck off and kill yourself.
>>139019686
proof how? the face looks almost exactly the same, of course it isn't going to look traced from one another. Nishimiya's face is dirty and Mirai's is clean, that's the only huge different. And if you mean the line art, that's the stupidest thing I would have ever heard in a discussion about adapting artstyles. Manga's art can be more sketchy because of the tools that can be used, when in animation the line art has to be cleaner unless it's a defining part of the style. The facial structure is the same, the eye shape is the same. If you copied Mirai's face onto Nishimiya, she'd look the same, just clean and a bit less suicidal.
You're stupid and in denial.
>>139019880
That fucking face looks nowhere near to KyoAni's style. You're a retard.
>>139019068
Paying animators by the hour instead of per cut. Taking their sweet time with production. Publishing their own novels, and then adapting them, while on top of the committee. Basically, lately they've become more independent, to the point where they don't depend on Kadokawa or Aniplex to fund their shows.
>>139019880
Looks nothing like KyoAni's art styles you blind faggot.
>>139019880
Could you post the original?
>>139019908
List KyoAni's manga adaptions and tell me when they haven't accommodated to its artstyle.
>>139019972
You know LNs have illustrations and those illustrations have designs, right?
>>139019943
>Taking their sweet time with production
I don't think this is true. Do you have proof?
>>139019959
Hey look I can call you a blind faggot too.
>>139019342
Like I said, they've lost the privilege of publishing their own material. Bring them back to Kadokawa at gunpoint.
>>139019998
Not him, but they're clearly not rushing, and it seems pretty easy to believe they go unusually slow, since they make two shows a year with like a hundred-and-fifty employees or whatever.
>>139020032
Still looks nothing like KyoAni, blind double faggot.
>>139019995
You know KnK is a manga, right?
>>139020083
it does, you blind triple faggot
>>139020085
I'm not sure what your point is here. Based on the one manga they've adapted, you're going to predict that they'll adapt their next manga faithfully?
>>139020109
Post the original.
>>139013136
That's just A-1 working like fucking clockword. Meme everyone into thinking they've made something good episodes 1-3 and then purposefully letting it all go to complete shit while banking on people continuing to watch because of the 60 minutes of good stuff they made. When will it fucking end. The exact same thing is going to happen with ace attorney, mark my fucking words. 9.5 on MAL incoming.
>>139020147
When will this constant shitposting end, is my question?
>>139020170
Just ignore it.
>>139020032
>no u
Doesn't make you any less wrong.
>>139020127
>Based on the one manga they've adapted,
Lucky Star is a manga and the artstyle stayed the same, Keion is a manga and its artstyle was still fairly similar. Nichijou is a manga and the artstyle is the same.
Lucky Star and Nichijou are still the two shows where they differed the most from their usual style, both of them from manga.
>>139020131
I didn't make it so I don't have the original, and I'm not gonna look for it. Chances are that Kumiko isn't making the same face anyway, and Kumiko herself doesn't necessarily look the same as Nishimiya, there are more similar characters than her, I'm guessing whoever made that image picked her because of the hairstyle.
>>139013136
>24 ADs on Grimgar 11
Time is fucking ticking I see.
They should start by hiring writers who:
-understand the fucking point of whatever IP they're handling
-can foreshadow events more than one episode ahead so they can actually have an emotional climax from the context instead of just trying to force it by putting dramatic music behind it and making characters cry
-know how to show that a character is in emotional turmoil other than making them cry because that's the laziest shit ever and we all know how terrible you can feel without crying
-are able to tell a joke
They can animate their sameface characters real nice, but they only tell a story worth watching about once every five years.
>>139020198
doesn't make you any more right
>>139020170
Explain to me how I'm wrong, then, instead of just crying that it's a shitpost.
>>139020227
KyoAni's directing and art/animation is god tier. Everything else is shit most of the time.
>>139020032
kill yourself
>>139020288
you first
>>139020205
>all these excuses
>i-it's the same
Fucking retard.
>>139020380
>not the same expression
no kidding
the fact that the eyes and mouth line up already mean it's similar
>>139019272
>You are so fucking stupid oh my god.
And you must be fucking blind. Ueno looks like mizuki? Try this worm bitch from Narutaru instead.
More than half of the time koe no katachi characters just look plain ugly, closer to real life people than standard anime characters. And them looking ugly shows much better how much of cunt some of them can be, or how pathetic and miserable the others are. It's the opposite of moe, which makes everyone look cute and sympathetic even if they are angry or crying or whatever.
>>139020397
The eyes don't line up.
>>139020380
>b-but the artstyles are the sameee!!!
B T F O
>>139020397
The standard little mouth and "^" nose are nearly the same on any anime. The eyes are clearly shaped differently. The eyebrows are thicker in the left pic and in KyoAni's style they don't use the black lines to pinpoint the cheeks, they use that stupid red pimple instead. They are nothing alike.
You sir, are a fucking blind retard.
>>139018599
>Try something new.
Why? It looks good
>>139020257
>making a long post bitching about A1 and the western anime fanbase
>specifically pointing out MAL
We've called you out multiple times Aniplex guy.
>>139020530
You know, you probably shouldn't complain about studios you know nothing about. That shiny red effect is only in Hibike Euphonium,
>>139020279
>KyoAni's directing... is god tier
Their directing is short sighted. It's like they approach every scene in isolation and sell the obvious emotions really hard, but forget the overall context of the story. This is a huge part of what makes so many of their series feel shallow and boring.
>>139020279
>put on a filter to make it look shiny
>"dude god tier directing lmao"
Kyoanifags are fucking cancer, every time I see anything related to Hibike I cringe.
>>139020705
>That shiny red effect is only in Hibike Euphonium
That shit is very common in anime.
>>139020715
the insular scenes are good for world and character building, in my opinion
>>139020279
Directing is mediocre most of the time. I like KyoAni because I know the show will get good animation, but everything else is a bet.
>>139020715
Most anime does this though. They always go to extremes when they are showing emotions.
Actually, that overreacting is something anime is known for.
KyoAni has very high emphasis on looks and presentation and little effort on story or writing. They tend to have high grade art and animation, but their writing suffers a lot. Their characters come off as weak and very simple, despite what the average KyoAni fan may tell you. There really isn't a lot either to the characters or the story they're involved in, and plenty of times, they just sweep story elements under the rug as if they never mattered. For everything else, it just feels like they shoot from the hip every episode. If a character is some way, like, tsundere for example, it's just that they are that way, no questions asked. And if there's a conflict, often times it gets resolved in a way that says the whole conflict was trivial in the first place or it just doesn't really get resolved, and it just gets taken as mere water under the bridge and they decide it's just not worth bothering to think about, making one wonder what the point was in the first place. Perhaps that is the point; what exactly is the point of watching that anime?
>>139020924
Selling the current emotion hard is fine. Forgetting the context is not.
>>139020970
>Canon
>Clannad
>Haruhi
>Hyouka
>Hibike Euphonium
Are you trying to meme me? Their action shows, bar Full-Metal, have been a disappointment though.
>>139020994
Gimme an example that's not Phantom World, because I dropped that shit
>>139020970
Are you high?
>>139020924
>Most anime does this though.
If most anime do it, they why do you put KyoAni on a pedestal for directing?
>>139019068
They also don't do freelancers. Everyone is on site. That means no Aoi's racing around town trying to meet the schedule.
>>139021081
Hibike is shit, people only cared about it because of yuri pandering. Your other examples are of pre-Hyouka anime, the last time Kyoani wasn't a joke.
>>139021123
Are you retarded? I'm not the idiot who said KyoAni had great direction, if anything I think it's mediocre at best.
>>139021169
>Hibike is shit
Nice meme.
>>139021203
>meme cinematography
>meme filters
>meme yuri
Hibike is the definition of a meme anime, on the level of One Punch Man and Konosuba.
>>139021169
I thought Yuribait was the worst part of Hibike, what they did good was the talent vs hard work and social life vs improving your skills. Teacher a best
>>139020380
Anon, that's not even the same screenshot. Overlaying that doesn't do anything.
>>139021243
>all those buzzwords
>one punch man and konosuba mention out from nowhere
Who let /v/ in?
>>139021252
I never gave a shit about the Yuri subtext thing either.
>>139013136
Stop obsessing over them, find other studios shows to watch too. It's a start.
>>139013812
Too bad Aniplex manages the Keyshit adaptations now and they're giving up milking that around the same time they give up on Monogatari and SAO
>>139021271
Are you blind? Do you actually think the left pic is anything like KyoAni? Do you realize that idiot said that you could paste deaf-chan face on any KyoAni head and it would look the same?
>>139021277
/v/-kun is part of /a/ now, that makes us a bit least autistic
>>139021252
Its take on those two issues were so dull that I nearly fell asleep. Doesn't help that many of the characters were boring too.
>>139021305
Nigger, I'm not even part of your shitflinging party, I'm just pointing out that overlaying those is pointless.
>>139014378
>>139020653
>>139019748
>>139020147
Best Studio 2015 according to Japan. By the way before you leap valiantly to their defense, he's not Aniplex guy, I am
>>139021347
What's the thing with Aniplex and A-1 anyway? I missed the latest maymays.
>>139021347
/a/ would rather defend an objectively shit studio that does pretty much exactly what that one guys says over and over just to spite some "I'm Spartacus" type figure.
![[HorribleSubs] Hibike! Euphonium - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.57_[2015.04.21_22.49.27].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vscVm6o.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hibike! Euphonium - 03 [720p].mkv snapshot 14.57 [2015.04.21 22.49.27]")
>>139021252
>Teacher a best
He was pretty fucking based. I also loved the part where Kousaka defeats the Senpai in the trumpet contest. I liked the subversion of the hard work > talent trope.
>>139021347
It's pretty hard not to be "Best Studio 2015 according to Japan" when you literally shit out endless steaming pandering piles on a conveyor belt season after season
>>139021371
There's some guy (and probably a number of imitators at this point) who shitposts in a really recognizable fashion and with the same points over and over, often about Aniplex.
>>139021371
/a/ wants to defend and prop up A-1 Pictures and Aniplex now because some people have been saying shit about their business practices that is honestly pretty on the money and are now calling anybody that says anything bad about them Aniplex guy kind of like how they dismiss opinions they don't like with it being reddit people crossposting. At least that's about as much as I've figured out.
>>139021411
Shilling for them?
>>139021312
I think it was pretty accurate in general. The talent > hard work is kinda generic but it was brought up in a different way (ribbon cunt ruining the group dyamics by spreading rumors). Characters had trouble getting gud at what they did, got told multiple times and it was satisfying to see them work extra hard, especially with that direction.
Maybe I'm a sucker for these themes for personal reasons, but I liked it, despite flaws (yurishit and some forced drama)
>>139021416
No, he hates them. Along with like half the industry, but particularly them. He seems to like Sunrise.
>>139021411
Do you think it might maybe have something to do with them doing the same shit over and over and people falling for it every single damn time?
>>139021397
based and handsome
>>139021446
I can't even count how many times I've seen you make that exact response whenever someone says you repeat yourself. I need to start leaving threads when you enter.
>>139021414
>kind of
>honestly
>excessive use of "I" instead of just getting to the point
Yep, you're him.
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/kind%20of%20honestly%20aniplex/
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/pretty%20much%20like%20really%20aniplex/
>>139021414
>>139021435
So /a/ is rooting for Aniplex/A-1 because one shitposter has been targeting them.
And the business practices are the "A-1 fools people into thinking the show will have good animation and mid season everything goes to shit" thingie that I've seen lately?
>>139013136
Mecha.
Either FMP or something else.
An anime studio is only an anime studio when it's doing a mecha show.
>>139013812
They can't unless Key hires them to it again.
>>139021428
>The talent > hard work
>generic
What? Normally it goes humble Hard Work > Talent arrogant cunts. I'm glad they actually went for the "Talent + Hard Work but maybe that could not be enough" route. I get sports anime vibes from Hibike and I'm a sucker for those, maybe that's why I like it.
>>139021519
/a/ barely gives a shit about studios. If you were here last week you'd see how they mocked Boku Dake. Grimgar got massive shitposting too, so no A1 bias here.
>>139021493
>Oh no expressions that every day people use pretty frequently, lets derail a discussion about Kyoani for this
Cool shit /a/, you sure got me. What should your prize be? A new meme perhaps?
>>139021519
Seems that way and yes.
>>139021530
>wanting more shitty CGI mecha
Mecha is dead as fuck.
>>139021576
Obviously not. It's mainly about trying to spite one guy who may not even exist but probably does for whatever ridiculous reason
>>139021576
Depends on the studio. /a/ is absolutely fucking obsessed with Kyoani and Shaft. A-1 not so much, that's more MAL's territory.
>>139021576
I was here.
I'm aware there is not A-1 bias and only a retard would think that, especially after what happened the thursday with the Boku Dake and cuck thingie. Everybody seems to agree that Mary ruined Grimgar and that it has shit pace, so I'll just ignore those fuckers.
>>139021579
It's the way you overuse those expressions and your spamming of "I think" and whatnot to make your post longer and seem more important. There was also this gold thread where you just made up sales numbers for Grimgar so you could shitpost.
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/138946020/
>>139021519
No one's even rooting for Aniplex, we're just rooting against the shitposter.
>>139021624
And Trigger, maybe P.A. and Bones too?. Gainax and Sunrise definitely not anymore
>>139021647
>memorizing anons typing style and trying to recognize them posting archive links as evidences
now that's advanced autism
>>139021688
How new are you?
>>139021688
Heh.
It seems you haven't stumbled across the guy obsessed with some "THK" who is a literally who for everybody else.
Judging by your pic and posting style I can tell you're a retard though.
>>139013726
>Mondijitachi
>shitty
>>139019998
>I don't think this is true. Do you have proof?
They reject work offers and told potential employers to "Come back in 2 years" because their schedule is full.
KEY was basically forced to hire someone else because of this.
KyoAni doesn't take their time as such. They instead have a schedule and stick to it. This means that they have to refuse job offers, if they were told the job needed to be release in 1 year and they don't have any opening.
Studios like Ufotable end up screwing up God Eater because they were working on Fate and took a job they should have refused. Or Shaft when they were working on multiple projects at the same time and couldn't finish any of them.
KyoAni knows how much time it takes to make an anime series, and they refuse to compromise on that time. A job that takes a week, will be given a week to finish and no less.
>>139021716
But there's nothing wrong with CWCposting
>>139021719
Chuuni was the first project of the KyoAni original IPs thing, right?
>>139021169
The only thing I've watched from Hibike is that webm where a bunch of the girls are tearing up or crying (as if they had won something huge like a national competition) after some other girl asked something terribly mundane:
>Can I redo the audition, please?
Probably made a lot more sense in context, but it kind of put me off from the show. I know it's anime, but I can only take so much melodrama at a time.
>>139021763
Yeah I also hated her in the beginning but she gets better and the melodrama is not that bad.
>>139021755
What's going on with this guy now?
>>139013136
with hyouka s2
>>139014925
>business model?
blowing 3 seasons worth of budget on 1 single moe blob season?
>>139014925
>How hard would it for other studios to adopt KyoAni's business model?
Serous answer; very, because it means reversing the work culture of pushing deadlines.
The employee told you the task you gave him needs 3 days to finish, you tell him he only gets 2 days,. You get a shitty job done.
Fast, cheap, good. Three qualities. Most bad anime studios want it Fast, then Cheap, then Good. A mediocre anime studio might want it Fast, Good, then Cheap.
KyoAni want it Good, fast, then cheap.
Shaft is Good, Cheap, then fast. Which is why they always fail deadlines.
There's no need to fix this shitty studio, faggot
Memes
Poor Bitch Angels got blown the fuck out this episode.
>>139023269
are you retarded?
>>139025202
>>139025307
That animation makes me cum buckets
Too bad the script is shit
>>139019163
Like Sunrise, Madhouse, A-1 and many others that are owned by big producer?
>>139014925
>>139019068
Serious answer. Almost impossible for Japan.
They are one of the first (or maybe even the only studio) that actually properly respects working hours, and also properly pay their animators.
Just from that statement alone makes them already the anti-thesis to A-1. If you know how A-1 works, then you already get what I mean.
How do we fix Cthulhu and Marchosias?
Honestly if KyoAni just does a proper series, they would always be dubbed as the best studio.
Everyone knows KyoAni can do it, and will do it well. But it looks like it will never happen again due to them being wholly independent now.
>>139025834
Basically, they should make something you like.
>>139021630
>Everybody seems to agree that Mary ruined Grimgar and that it has shit pace, so I'll just ignore those fuckers.
You know, it just one person keep spamming same shit over and over, especially the Mary thing is just Yumefag buttmad.
>>139025864
Depends on what you mean by like.
If you mean a series I liked before it being animated? Of course. What kind of question is that.
But if you mean a series that KyoAni animates without me knowing first what it is. Then that's different. I'll have to watch it first for maybe 5 episodes to see if it's something I will like in the long run.
I've liked some KyoAni shows in the past. Not so much in the last 2-3 years though, except for Hibike.
Seriously did you just try that sarcastic post? Actually makes no sense asking that question in that way.
KyoAni's moe is outdated, so most wotas have abandoned them. They can only rely on fujoshi and normals now. But normals don't buy BD's. Expect a Free successor from them soon.
I'm mostly happy with modern Kyoani, but damn I wish they did more KEY shows. Just imagine what things would be like if they made thier action debut with Rewrite instead of shitty fucking KnK and Musaigen. Even just LB or something would have been pretty good, but no.
>>139026613
They're doing fine, but yeah, VEG will be their next fujo anime.
>>139013136
Amagi S2, Haruhi S3.
>>139027457
Yes, No
>>139027457
Hell yeah for Amagi S2, but I don't think anyone would survive Haruhi S3.
And Chuuni S3.
>>139013136
Good animation wont save a terrible show, animation can save a mediocre or average show, but it won't fix bad ones.
Sales are proof of this
>>139027457
>>139027604
I'd prefer them not to dwell on old and busted shit like Haruhi, plus Chuuni S2 was horrible and a S3 won't save it.
>>139021716
IS ANIPLEX GUY THK
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
>>139013376
This. I fucking want another season.
>>139013136
So even while trying to be generic theyre better than the rest?
>>139025834
Their main problem right now is now quality control in the project-picking and writing.
If Silent Voice fails, Hibike will officially be an exception to their current rule.
>>139013763
The world can only hope.
Although if they do the world would be a significantly better place.
>>139028457
Tamako Love Story was pretty great.
You can always trust Yamada.
>>139021347
Sasuga, A-1 pictures sama
>>139021414
Careful what you say, you might also get labeled as THK.
>inb4 hurr you joking about thk/aniplex guy is proof that you are him
>>139028576
>durr calling thk/aniplex guy a meme is proof ur him
>>139013763
Oh-eeeeeeeeeeee
>>139027238
>Cyborg girl as the main focus
>fujo
Yeah no
>>139013413
Anon that's not possible. Archaic business practices and senseless work have to be better than fair wages, love of your job and reasonable work hours. Why would studios do anything else?
>>139026914
I'm glad based Maeda doesn't want anything to do with them anymore. That'll teach those traitorous cunts a lesson.
>>139013136
>Cherry picking an action scene to a walking scene
Nobody can backstab better than this fanbase, it seems.
KyoAni still has merchandise money left over from Haruhi to spend
>>139028765
Yeah, he sure showed them.
>>139028992
>Sold 9k
And showed them he did.
>>139028765
It's Kyoani that moved away from him actually.
P.A. Works does fine with his work but, how do you say this. If they just did maybe 2 cours for Angel Beats or Charlotte. It might have ended up better than expected.
Charlotte was still bad though.
>>139028960
They don't sell anything Haruhi anymore.
>>139029034
It sold 7k.
>>139029056
I meant they're using the money from the massive bank vault of profits they made in 2006-2008
>>139028932
Here's a KyoAni walking scene.
>>139029034
>7,406 01/07 Charlotte
It's barely successful. They just actually made money back from that. Barely any profit.
Clannad AS did 20k per volume.
>>139029041
>Kyoani that moved away from him actually
And thus i refer to them as traitorous cunts. Maeda is a brave man for cutting off complete ties from a good studio like that.
>>139013136
Have them produce actually entertaining shows
Imagine Konosuba animated by Kyoani
>>139029102
All that money's not gonna last a decade. And i doubt it all goes to the studio anyway.
>>139013136
Too bad the show itself is utter shit.
>>139028932
Did you watch any of Musaigen's episode?
The consistent quality is way better than Grimgar.
And please. Animation quality is the topic here. Learn to separate the story, direction, VA, animation, and directing quality. Not because you enjoy one series doesn't mean you can't see through it's flaws. Grimgar is QUALITY, in terms of animation.
>>139029114
That's some orgasmic detail.
>>139029150
It should be KyoAni are the brave one's from cutting themselves of from Maeda. They were selling hotcakes with him and then they just stopped. Just like that. If it was anyone else they'd beg Maeda for his stories.
They wanted to follow a different business path. I don't know why people feel so betrayed by that.
>>139029175
It would have been the Fumoffu of 2016 for sure.
>>139025834
What the fuck is a "proper series"?
>>139029286
Maeda is shit anyway. I've only seen Clannad first season and Charlotte, and I can tell you his writing is the blandest that exists. I deem him as big of a hack as Okamoto.
>>139021719
It's a good and bad thing that Kyoani does this. It speaks of how good quality control that Kyoani actually has. In fact all studios should be following similar standards, but at the same time the Kyoani model relies on being able to sell well. In general though, I think other studios seriously need better quality control and looser schedules, but due to need for money and the risks, it's difficult.
>>139029175
KonoSuba wasn't entertaining though.
It's just another mediocre LN with an insufferable MC.
>>139029285
>that
>orgasmic
It sure sounds easy to bring your tiny little peckers to ejaculate prematurely.
>>139029375
It was super comfy, easy to watch, and had entertaining characters.
My AOTS tbqh
>>139029348
I wouldn't have believed you if you said this around maybe 2009 or something. But now, yeah. For me anyway, he's not as good as before.
>>139029366
Their business practice is good, no doubt about that, but if this is to be done to another studio right now, they'd have to change everything up from they insides. Not quite feasible in that industry.
I wonder if there's a different studio that has almost the same business practices as KyoAni. Is Ufotable almost the same? Not sure about that though.
>>139029114
>that should animation and shadows
>>139029521
>Is Ufotable almost the same?
It wasn't sustainable for them.
>>139029597
Which shows?
Are they now making bank on their Type-Moon franchises or something?
>>139029175
>Konosuba by Kyoani
No thanks. Last time they did comedy it was garbage.
>>139029643
Amagi was leagues funnier than Konosuba you nigger
>>139017808
>>139017909
Could you stop samefagging and go back to your homeboard?
>>139029697
I was referring to nichijou.
Now that you mentioned Amagi, the only funny scene from that is the mascot falling down a trap. That is it.
>>139029826
Nichijou was god tier
I will fucking fight you IRL
>>139013136
By asking Madhouse to teach Kyoani. Just look at Onepunchman. Even the second half of it look gorgeous.
>>139029933
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.
>>139029933
>Madhouse
I hope you realize OPM isn't representative of their average output. Shingo Natsume could have done the same thing at Bones.
>>139029933
There's a reason why KyoAni, before becoming popular, are the ones the high profile studios call for important scenes in their shows like animation heavy scenes and the like. They were the ones doing the good shit.
>>139029175
They would fuck it over with shitty drama, pointless original characters, worse seiyuu and too much divergence from source. And it would flop.
>>139030120
>pointless original characters
You say that as if their original characters aren't the best characters in their respective shows.
>>139029175
>Imagine Konosuba animated by Kyoani
Well, it would be higher than a 5 at least.
>>139029114
The walking scene from FMP S2 where Kaname walks past Lu Yan is fucking amazing. It's not long after Sousuke's assignment is changed.
>>139030120
They seem to stay pretty faithful to the source material. It would likely be the same as now but without all the QUALITY, maybe a little touch of the Kyoani artstyle
>mfw imagining Aqua with Kyoani thighs
>>139030316
Konosuba wouldn't be the same without the saggy tiddies.
>>139025202
>>139025307
>Sexually assaulted by elf Carmen Sandiago
She's stolen my DICK
>>139030316
KyoAni style looks closer to the sauce than what DEEN did.
>>139030316
Can kyoani give nopan asshots?
>>139013413
It's amazing how literally every animator loves drawing and Japan still manages to make them hate their job.
>>139019493
Nothing. It's good and makes them money. Idiots shitposting and complaining about Kyoani is just tradition at this point.
>>139020227
>Complaining about lack of foreshadowing
Fuck off, all their plot heavy shows have had tons of foreshadowing. Hell, there are phantom world threads up right now praising the foreshadowing. Just because you idiots are too busy shitposting to pay attention doesn't mean it's not there.
>>139013136
Hire Gen Urobuchi as the main writer. Make CLAMP do chara designs. All music written by Hiroyuki Sawano.
>>139029933
Madhouse gets good animation in their TV shows by making the other half of any given episode stills and pans.
>>139031131
Just as the good lord intended.
Clannad AS was god tier, they adapted vn perfectly. I can only wish for more KEY adaptations from KyoAni.
Let's be honest, Angel Beats and Charlotte were horrible.
>>139031131
OPM had good animation because the main staff pulled in friends and shit, nothing to do with Madhouse.
Wow, that scene from Kyoani looks great, even if I could bet money that 99% of the show looked nothing like it. If only they would stop making shit adaptations and making shit original anime, maybe they would be worth something. Their SOL/harm?school anime is pretty cancer, like a heart shaped tumor. They treat their employees well which is good, but their products are still crap at their core in regards to content.
>>139031199
>they adapted vn perfectly.
Nearly perfectly yes, but they fucked up the ending, making it seem like an asspull.
>>139031199
I really wanted them to do Rewrite.
Though their big projects this year are hype too.
>>139031296
Kyoani property LNs are great. The fact that they're making money and making crossboard shitposters who pretend to know anything about anime angry makes my dick rock hard.
>>139031295
I wasn't talking about OPM. I was talking about everything else they have that's at least passable. Even half of any decently animated scene is stills
>>139031462
>making crossboard shitposters who pretend to know anything about anime
The go to response of a moeshit lover when their cookie cutter waifus are insulted.
By getting better writers? They can do a 10/10 animation but if they put it in a shit anime it doesn't matters.
>>139031674
>moeshit lover
I fucking love when people say moeshit. Keep going, please.
>>139020831
But anon getting a Yamada episode or anime is a great seal of direction and art style excellence.
>>139021586
>Implying KyoAni would settle for anything less than handdrawn mechs for somthing longer than a 3 minutes straight to youtube extras.
KyoAni would make FMP great again you dumb anon.
>>139030503
They prefer to give nopan ass shots than a panty scene.
>>139020831
>Directing is mediocre most of the time.
Ha, no.
>>139020793
>wah wah strawman
>>139032485
They don't know what directing is. They ignore what's going on then claim all the show had going for it was pretty visuals.
>>139019068
Not outsourcing 90% of work to North Korean slaves
>>139032847
You mean south korean
>>139033121
South Koreans demand money, Norks work for noodles.
They outsource to South, which outsources to North. Not only japanese too
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/IC14Dg03.html
>>139033255
Thank you kim jong il
>>139031445
It really doesn't fit Kyoani though. Rewrite is too dark compared to any Kyoani work.
>>139034680
It wouldn't be the first time KyoAni made something lighter and more UGU
>KyoAni announces new anime
>"It's gonna be a good one!"
I never understood this mentality.
>>139031910
moeshit
>>139035001
Now give me one more and tell me Kyoani invented it to kill anime so I can finish.
>>139035087
moeshit like lucky star literally killed anime off
>>139035146
I need new pants.
>>139035146
Is Lucky Star even moe? The girls behave too normally, I'd say any Kanon is 10 times moer
>>139035279
I literally want to hug Miyuki and Tsukasa more than anything else
>>139035146
It's because of Lucky Star that nobody remembers Air or Kanon anymore
me
>>139019223
What's it called?
>>139038239
Joshinomu or something? I can't remember.
![[HorribleSubs] Musaigen no Phantom World - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.16_[2016.03.24_21.39.55].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gYFH8YA.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Musaigen no Phantom World - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 21.16 [2016.03.24 21.39.55]")
>>139013136
With more incest, obviously.
>>139032078
>FMP by kyoani
>>139013413
This.
Ever since 2008ish KyoAni has been the same - Excellent animation, industry-leading work ethic and company policy but absolutely poor when it comes to making an anime that doesn't feel cliche, hackneyed or predictable.
I think this is what has made KyoAni + Key such a great combo - Regardless of whether you like them or not, Key write plots and characters that are so definitely 'Key' that it's too difficult for KyoAni to layer their writing on top so they just stick to what they're good at - animation. The result is something that always does Key's source material justice; For all the complaints about Clannad, 'It doesn't capture the atmosphere of the source material' is definitely not one of them.
As lovely as KyoAni's animation is, I would take a true-blue, nothing changed Lucky Star sequel with 2007-era animation over every single KyoAni work from the last 8 years because I know it would just be bags more fun than anything they could think up on their own.
>>139039694
Oh look, another faggot that got mad his favorite show didn't get a new season and pretends to be an expert on writing and anime by shitposting about shows he didn't actually watch.
>>139039694
>key
>not cliche, hackneyed and predictable
Jesus.
>>139039694
If they just said they will be doing the new FMP everything would have been swept under the rug.
>>139039405
>Implying what is left of FMP Fags didn't bawl their eyes out when it was announced that KyotoAni wouldn't be producing their show.
>>139013136
They need to start showing kisses.
>>139039694
> I know what will make sales
> Doesn't buy anything
Never change.
>>139040021
>placing all your bet in one studio
No people are that pathetic.
>>139040125
>start
>>139031462
Umm, Phantom Sales is looking to be their biggest flop after Munto.
That leftover Haruhi cash won't last forever.
>>139040400
>Umm,
Run along, this board isn't for you.
>>139039898
That's not what was said at all.
>>139038266
Nomi joshi found it anon, thanks. You're alright for a faggot.
>>139040823
You're welcome, faggot.
>>139040185
You wasn't here when FMP fags posted the same thread for 2 months before the FMP announcement saying that KyoAni is going to make anime great again only to see the threads die when they announced that KyoAnus woun't be animating it.
HARUHI S3 ONLY WAY
>>139041298
;_;
>>139013763
>Christmas cake
>Christmas
>Cake
my nigga
>>139041298
No please, no more mediocre LNs.
>>139030387
>elf Carmen Sandiago
goddamnit
>>139041790
Mediorce LNs sell surprisingly well, don't you think?
>>139041896
Let's be honest here. Haruhi was successful thanks to KyoAni, Hirano, the dance, and Kyon as a character. The plot of the LN itself is pure garbage.
>>139041896
>the amagi sale numbers
>Make good looking anime
>Adapt badly written source material and then mess around with it to make it worse
Such a fucking waste seriously.
>>139041984
Lots of people like the LN just as much if not more. That's why people want S3 so much.
>>139041984
>Haruhi was successful thanks to KyoAni, Hirano, the dance, and Kyon as a character
And who else? You're forgetting someone here anon
>>139042199
His 5 minute scene with Nagato doing nothing but reading was true art.
>>139013365
All KyoAni does is adapt LNs. There's only so much "writers" can do about that.
>>139042346
Munto and Tamako are originals. And Phantom, KnK, Free might as well be since they changed so much from the LNs.
>>139041999
>Almost 7k sales
Most studios wish to have 4k at least. KyoAni does pretty well if you ask me.
>>139042449
Interesting, you just the five worst things they ever did.
>>139042763
Tamako is third best Kyoani, behind Lucky Star and K-On!
