Are these the most influential anime studios of all time?
>>138972945
>Set the 'Trapped in MMO' Trend
kek
More like a-1 just made that type of story more accessible and worst at the same time.
Holy shit if the last 3 didn't exist we'd be so well off right now
>>138972945
where is Trigger ??
>>138973977
Not influential enough.
>>138972945
Who made this chart?
>>138973977
They're still pretty new
It's missing Mushi Pro and the last 5 are debatable.
>>138973977
"Meme studio trying to repopularize the '70s art style"
>>138975124
Mushi Production is right there at the top next to Toei. If you mean the new Mushi under Tezuka Productions name, they're less relevant than DEEN.
>>138975326
Ah, I only saw the Toei logo. Oopsie.
>>138975251
You're gonna have to explain this one to me.
>>138976605
you don't appreciate art
>>138972945
>>Set the 'Trapped in MMO' Trend
>>138972945
>A1 comparable to any of those
Only thing noteworthy about A1 is that they're the prime example of a factory studio that exists just to mass-produces cash-in shows for Kadokawa.
>>138972945
It's actually kind of sad how true the Madhouse one is, because now there's barely anyone there
>>138976723
no one cares about .hack, nerd.
>>138972945
Fixed for you OP.
Also you should have put a Yuasa work under Madhouse, and at least one Takahata film under Ghibli.
Also remove Free!
>>138976914
forgot pic
A-1 pictures is really just trash.
>>138976729
You mean Aniplex, A1 is Aniplex.
>>138975124
What do you mean Production I.G and Gainax are debatable??
>>138972945
SnK was made by Wit.
>>138976809
No one cares about SAO edge lord
>>138976715
What are you on about?
>>138977224
WIT is just a branch of IG. Just like Animation Do's Free! / KyoAni
>destroyed two generations worth of artistic development
>>138977116
To be honest I mostly didn't feel like saying "last five except Gainax" but do go ahead and explain IG's influence on anime as a whole. I'm not trolling or anything, I legitimately don't know. Like I would say Ghost in the Shell alone is the big influential thing produced at IG, but then I'd just credit Oshii instead of the whole studio.
>>138972945
man you can tell this list is made by someone who wrote down the ones they see the most and did a quick google search to figure out what the newer studios did.
>>138972945
This is cringe worthy. Who made this garbage?
>>138972945
>Set the trapped in MMO trend
>The picture is Idolshit and Fairy Tale
???
>>138977486
You did.
>>138977578
Oh I see.
I must have made all these other cringe worthy lists as well. Hope you guys enjoy them.
>>138976914
>Also you should have put a Yuasa work under Madhouse
>Yuasa work
Why would we put pretentious shit on there?
>>138977314
Which studio?
>>138972945
>>138972945
This whole shit is wrong.
>>138976944
The OP says most influential, not most Not Trash
>>138978044
How so?
>>138977807
>Tripfag has shit taste
Every single time.
>>138978142
Go back to watching Ping Pong and Mind Game. You're too mature for us.
>>138977349
Production I.G practically wrote the book on anime CGI, and while many absolutely loathe CGI it is without a doubt a tremendous boon to production. People may bitch that it looks bad but the costs it cuts allows us to have much, MUCH more anime to watch, and when well done allows for some effects that you can't really get on hand drawings.
Aside from technical innovations they have produced or co-produced several acclaimed works, the most well know being GITS. While you can attribute much of GITS' brilliance to Oshii, you have to equally praise I.G., Oshii made a masterwork of direction and really got the movie togheter but it was the studio that actually animated the thing, the art is breathtaking, the animation is top notch, the visuals and atmosphere are, for lack of a better word, perdect. It's a masterpiece that set the bar for what anime and movies could do and even influenced the West. Production I.G. also co-produced End of Eva, made Patlabor and shit-ton of hit movies and series and is now branded "King of Sci-Fi" for a reason.
Isn't the trapped in a MMO thing taken from Hunter x Hunter?
>>138972945
>Love Live revolutionized the mecha genre
>>138978649
>>138977534
Those are probably just some notable works.
>fairy tale
>love live
>snk
>free
>idol
>FAIRY TALE
>sao
hmmmmmmmm
>>138972945
OPM really should be in the madhouse part of the image.
>>138978696
>>138978786
I loved this anime. I wish more shows were similar, less aiming for a specific audience, and just anime for anime sake.
I love galko for that reason
>>138978696
n00b.
>>138972945
What's the 2nd one of shaft called?
>>138972945
Love Live is mech?
>>138979066
Sayonara Newfag-kun
>>138977349
Production I.G. pioneered digital animation and colour grading, as well as perfecting cel-shaded CGI, basically paving the way for the next like, 17 years of anime, for better or worse.
They gave us the more impressive bits of FLCL and EOE.
And they did that cool animated segment in Kill Bill Vol 1.
>>138972945
>adapting manga and VNs
>influential anime studio
>>138979681
Nice /v/ meme, where did you get it?
>>138979681
Their success set the industry into the general downward spiral it's in. That's influence. We can't all do SamFlam and go bankrupt.
>>138976723
It really does feel like a lot that goes on A-1 is copied from shit Bandai and Sunrise did years before. I know they're a spinoff studio but it feels like they're forever chasing their shadow trying to pick up whatever scraps they leave behind.
Oh you made a hit show called Gundam that revolutionized an entire genre forever, time to try and surpass it with shitty hack people and marketing. Oh you made a smash hit idol show that's bigger than your old one, feel like loaning us that other franchise we did an adaptation of a few years back to do another one? Oh you're making an Accel World anime, cool we'll do SAO a season later. Oh your mega hit show had this staff, we'll just use literally the exact same people for our Nippon Banzai LN adaptation a year later. Oh your adaptation of a popular shonen jump manga is incredibly popular with Fujoshi as well as award winning, we'll try this with Seven Deadly Sins.
I'm sure there's more examples but it can't be a coincidence at this point.
>>138979260
>>138976729
They basically have two approaches, both equally shitty. Mass produced cash-ins of established hit franchises like Persona, iDOLM@STER, Granblue Fantasy, Valkyria Chronicles, SAO etc. or originals featuring the same goddamn overhyped staffers that worked on big hits either for them or other studios in the past like Aldnoah Zero, Anthem of The Heart, World Conquest Zvesda etc. I've never seen a studio do more shit and yet contribute less to the medium yet be so rewarded for it financially and loved by shit communities like MAL. They even somehow got Newtype fans to vote them as best studio in both 2014 2015 but were mercifully shut out of any real awards that they couldn't just buy.
>>138976809
>>138977245
So why is Bamco making a crossover game then?
Where the fuck is Tatsunoko Pro for the full digital animation production and use of CACANi?
>>138977904
I'm guesing A-1.
>>138972945
The problem with calling a studio influential is that most anime are adaptations of existing work, so really it's about who can handle the work or land the job in the first place and not fuck it up.
Madhouse and sunrise are pretty influential though. Disagree on the rest though, especially Ghibli. Ghibli is in a vacuum like Disney. They're popular but they don't do shit anymore.
>>138980051
None of those achievements in the list really relied on adaptation work, except A-1 probably, but other studios tried the trapped in MMO setting before and none really stick. SAO was the show that popularized it, so we can't really shut down the posibility that A-1 did most of the work.
>>138980051
Trends of what gets adapted and what doesn't change vastly over time as well, and are influenced by what kind of adaptations are successful, and that can be heavily influenced by who is doing the adaptation.
>no studio DEEN at #1
I bet you think traps are gay, too
>>138972945
>Set the trapped in MMO trend
>SAO
>>138972945
>Revolutionized the mecha genre
>Love Live
>Gundam 00
>Code Fucking Geass
Where's 0079/Ideon?
>Gainax
>Created the post-Eva era
Making DVD/BD expensive is now a good thing?
They had a better history before Eva
>A-1
More like "Aniplex set the pandering at its maximum"
This fucking picture is directly taken from 9fag or what?
>>138979881
You forgot the Man of Steel Gundam Aldnoah/Zero
>>138980182
Let me guess, you think it was .hack?
>>138980114
What? Most of the shows on the list are adaptations of existing work.
>>138980129
I'm not so sure about that, urban fantasy doesn't seem to be in any more.
>Set the 'Trapped in MMO' Trend
>>138980203
With Love live there, maybe the takeaway is that the pictures don't necessarily match up with the text
>>138972945
>SAO
Fuck that boring shit. Overlord and even Log Horizon and it's boring 2nd season were better.
>>138972945
>A1
>influential
>SHAFT
>influential
The difference between an influential studio and the mediocre is simple, just take a look at what first comes into your head when you look their list of series made. Notice how Fairy Tale is considered one of their best anime series in A1. And I'm not even going to elaborate on SHAFT (even though SZS was pretty good).
>>138972945
>Tokyo Godfathers being notable
>SnK as an example of pioneering digital animation
>"trapped in MMO" theme being important
>"vanguardist" instead of "avantgarde", like a filthy EoP
There's so many reasons why I want to punch the creator of that image.
>>138980292
Agree about A1, but SHAFT FTW!!
>>138980264
Yes but love it or hate it SAO is popular and set a trend in the industry. And please fuck off with the .hack that shit is irrelevant as always.
>>138980292
>SZS was pretty good
Because manga is superior. SHAFT didn't do shit
>>138972945
How many "trapped in a MMO" anime are there actually? Is there even enough that it can be described as a "trend"?
>>138980203
>>138980224
Those images are most likely just "Notable works".
>>138980203
We're arguably still in the post-Eva era, that show was so big that we got nothing but psychological/DEEPshit for years after it aired. There was so much experimentation back in the late 90's/early 00's to find the next Evangelion it was ridiculous. Gainax without Eva would be as irrelevant as DEEN or Gonzo.
>>138980407
Like 4 or 5.
>>138980323
Both are corner cut Aniplex mass production bitches as far as I can tell. Shaft at least sort of used to have autonomy before Shinbo sold them down the river to their new corporate overlords and now acts as the main go-between producer
>>138980322
They probably put it on there just because it has a tranny.
>>138980495
But pre-Shinbou SHAFT is as irrelevant as Manglobe is now. They didn't do anything notable before him joining.
>>138980393
>set a trend in the industry.
An irrelevant trend that's already phasing out. Why not include the popularizer of high fantasy anime, idol anime, anthropomorphized war machinery, or catgirls instead?
>And please fuck off with the .hack that shit is irrelevant as always.
You aren't helping your case by denying its influence.
>>138980447
They actually are mostly adaptations though. Cyborg 009, Sailor Moon, Astro Boy, Love Live, Ghost in the Shell, AoT, Jinroh, etc. Very few anime originals on that chart, so all of these developers are questionable in terms of their actual influence. They seem to be cashing in on manga trends.
>>138973479
They just revived it for the 2010s. I don't think they fundamentally changed anything from .hack's era.
>>138980182
SAO is older than hack but of course the anime is much newer.
>>138972945
>Created the post-Evangelion era
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?
>>138972945
>>138980182
>trend
>>138980554
I don't see how kickstarting careers, revolutionizing mecha or pioneering in digital animation could be credited to manga. Moe and Trapped in MMOs existed before, but KyoAni and A1 respectively made them boom, KyoAni specially set a trend that has no signs of ending, it could be very well be called the moe era. SHAFT's style is unique to them, not the manga they adapt. Ghibli's success is all theirs and Toei/Mushi started it all.
>>138979860
I never finished samflam. I got to the episode where the gorilla showed up and then got sidetracked. How is it?
>>138980714
Not that dude. Guillotine Gorilla is the high point of SamFlam. It drops drastically in quality (both story and animation) after that. There are a few good scenes and the ending wasn't bad, but I wouldn't give it a second watch.
>>138980714
Not even memeing, it fucking goes places. If you can get past the QUALITY, and finish it, I promise you won't regret it.
>>138980593
None shit anime era.
>>138980788
Gorilla was just the hook. From Beyond was the highlight. Hell, the post-Torture stage performance cemented the show as something special to me.
>>138972945
Since when did A1 make .hack?
And what the fuck is the "post-Evangelion Era"?
>>138980588
>Wasn't this about animation studios?
>>138980210
yes
>>138980393
I think infinite stratos have set a bigger trend and is more influential than sao
>>138981010
Learn to use greentext correctly before responding to me you autistic retard.
>>138981112
This anon got rekt by a newfag.
>>138972945
That list could be worse honestly but A-1 has done far more important shit to be defined by SAO.
>>138972945
>no Tatsunoko
>>138980660
> Moe and Trapped in MMOs existed before, but KyoAni and A1 respectively made them boom, KyoAni specially set a trend that has no signs of ending, it could be very well be called the moe era
Only if by moe you mean SoL about girls in school.
>A-1's legacy will be SAO
No wonder that guy suicided.
>>138972945
It's in a good order, though I'd move Production I.G. down a peg or two, and move AI to the bottomest of bottoms. I still don't care for Shaft very much though.
>>138981561
Such as? A bunch of overrated as fuck melodrama for MAL to wank over perhaps? Really I can't think of a single show by them that isn't deeply flawed.
>>138972945
>kyoanus
>influential
>>138981697
A-1's legacy will be showing how constant unending hype marketing, empty promises and declaring as well as pandering to braindead teenage otaku can make up for slipshod execution and your studio and brand having zero actual identity of it's own and even get people to vote you as studio of the year two years running.
>>138981771
Honestly they probably were one of the most influential studios of the latter half of the 2000's. Always it was what's Kyoani doing and what's their next masterpiece going to look like. They really dropped off substantially in the 2010's though.
>>138981813
Pretty sad, I remember everyone getting excited for KyoAni doing something new. I think they really died down after Free and when they didn't adapt Little Busters to do their own LNs.
>>138981771
>Lucky Star
>Keion
>motherfuking Haruhi
You'd be a retard to not call them influential.
>>138981930
But Free sold by the truckloads. And I don't think LB! Would've sold more than Chu2Koi.
>>138978786
cute berry dude
What was the big trend before "trapped in MMO"?
>>138981938
Those garbage shows had zero influence in the industry.
>>138981992
K-On.
>>138981993
Not that anon but didn't Haruhi/Zero no Tsukaima and Shana popularized the whole LN anime adaptation thing?
>>138981964
I meant in terms of influence and prominence. I can't speak for the Japanese market though. It just feels like they've been trailing off the radar since then.
Also, is Little Busters really that old? Feels weird.
>>138982027
Shana and Haruhi are hands down the two biggest influences for LNs and LN adaptations and to try to claim otherwise (regardless of one's perceived quality of those works) isn't just being contrarian, it's fucking dumb.
>>138981993
Garbage or not, they were really popular.
>>138981771
They basically showed the rest of the industry that there was lods of dosh to be made from adapting the onslaught of Light Novels that plague Japan
>>138982120
JC Staff already knew it.
>>138981992
Time loops.
I forgot what studio made the anime "no game no life?"
>>138972945
BONES might deserve a mention. Lots of oddball sci-fi shows with mainstream appeal. Lets ignore the second Eureka Seven.
Replace A-1 with bones and I can somewhat agree with this list
>>138982361
I'm a pretty big Bonesfag, but they aren't particularly influential.
>>138982349
>no game no life
Who cares? it was just a rip off.
>>138979621
>digital color
>cel-shading
>perfected
Anime coloring still hasn't recovered fully from transitioning from real world color to post production shit.
>>138977399
This
>>138983169
>>138977399
Eh, it looks more like a list of regular talking points and popular narratives than anything. It's probably just clickbait shit thrown together based on the writer's expertise from browsing ANN or something.
>>138978672
>just some notable works
There is nothing notable about Fairy tail in terms of animations or sales.Fairy tail,as well as Monogatari and Free are one of those " use overtop fanservice because that is the only reason anime sells "
>>138983313
Change "noteworthy" for "recognizable" or "popular" if it triggers you too hard.
>>138980588
>SAO is older than hack
Found a retarded newfag
Let me guess sao was your first anime
>>138983380
>sao was your first anime
>newfag
He could have been browsing for almost four years.
>>138983313
You're funny.
Sunrise, Madhouse and Kyoani shaped the modern era of anime.
>>138972945
Honestly, I'd hardly count A-1 Pirctures. They just feel so knew and hardly as influential as the other ones on the list. Sure they have popular works, but the same could be said about other studios as well and I still wouldn't put them on this list.
>>138976944
Pretty much this.
>>138983596
>They just feel so knew
Fuck I meant "new" not "knew".
>>138982053
It's kind of hard to argue. You had some occasional light novel adaptation stuff before that but it would be things like Banner of The Stars or Boogiepop Phantom here and there and not the absolute deluge where it's now arguably tied with manga as the biggest source of adaptation inspiration. Cell phone game commercial thingies are making a fast bid to overtake them lately though.
>>138972945
Let's make it more easier.
>Toei: Aston Villa
>Studio Ghibli: Wimbledon
>Madhouse: Chelsea
>Sunrise: Real Madrid
>Production IG: Paris Saint-Germain
>Gainax: Leeds United
>Kyoani: Bayern Munich
>A-1 Pictures: Man City
>Shaft: Liverpool
>PA Works: Atlético Madrid
>Bones: Tottenham Hotspur
>>138983456
Sunrise has shaped every era of anime though
>>138972945
>Pioneers of digital animation
>GitS and Jin Roh as an example
>not Gonzo
>>138983596
Aside from there shows being among the most popular lately if for a lot of the wrong reasons they really haven't influenced or created much of anything. They always just felt like a cheap knockoff Sunrise to me that is worse than that at virtually everything you can name yet similarly structured and another one of their myriad spinoffs.
>>138983800
Gonzo = crap cg
>>138983750
>Shaft: Barcelona
>>138973977
Saving anime, of course.
>>138983750
>football teams
>easier
Maybe if you're a normalfag.
>>138983750
Gainax feels more like Milan desu
>>138983750
Why are you listing a bunch of random cities?
>>138977349
Pic related
>>138983069
>Anime coloring still hasn't recovered fully from transitioning from real world color to post production shit.
Disagree. Just go watch Garden of Words.
>>138984427
>Gainax
>Milan
Dude, Milan is barely even corpse. They still playing in the Main League.
>>138983401
So, a newfag ?
Why do you guys still try to argue and classify objective facts here when there will ALWAYS be a contrarian retard saying "LOL NOPE I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT'S NOT INFLUENTIAL".
You do understand that /a/ must probably be one of the boards with the lowest average IQ and full NEET shitters who care only about waifufaggotry.
However, I'll say that you cannot properly judge an artist/studio's influence until a certain amount of time has passed. To say that SHAFT was influential is objectively wrong because we don't have enough data on the studio's influence (and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any).
>>138972945
What does fairy tale and idolmasters have to do with "trapped in MMO" setting?
And they didn't start any trend, the trend was started in the LN industry, SAO just happened to be the first one to be animated. Next you'll tell me Hataraku Maou-sama started the MaouXYuusha trend.
Was it Free that started this fujo mini boom?
I mean, we're even getting the evolution of Free. Male ice skating.
>>138985249
No, Utapri started it.
>>138972945
MAD HOUSE and PRODUCTION I.G are the best, everything else should be eradicated.
>>138985227
>fairy tale
I know it's a shit anime but at least get it right.
>>138985263
Bless utapri then. No homo.
>>138985293
>muh manime
>muh dark themes
You're not contributing and you're cancerous. Fuck off.
>>138976715
>Implying kill la kill was art
>>138985297
I think anime ended.So manga sales are going to be lower
>>138985293
Production IG has been shit for years now and Joker Game is not going to change that status
Madhouse best show in 10 years was animated mostly by freelancers, says a lot about how crap they are
>>138985297
Isn't that what the author wanted to name his manga but accidentally misspelled and then rolled with it?
>>138985362
>Madhouse best show in 10 years
And that is ?
>>138985362
Tatami Galaxy is Madhouse's last good show.
>>138985346
>anime started being actual PowerPoint slideshow
>they decided to end it
Good for it. The cancer was growing too big for the recipient itself.
>>138985324
Stay a fat virgin you moeshit nigger, while real men like me are ripped and watch quality manly anime, not shows for children about cute girls.
:3
>>138985385
Death Note.
>A-1 pictures
>influential
>>138972945
I guess grandpa has gotten pretty senile these days
>>138985418
What part of "fuck off" don't you understand, low IQ shitter? Are you so uneducated that you cannot understand those 2 simple words that people always say to your ugly ass because you're an annoying neckbeard?
>>138985293
Seconded. But, if it was me, I'll add Sunrise & Bones, since all those four are equally good.
>>138985324
Not him, but IG & Madhouse are not always staying in the comfort zone of the anime (Moe, CGDCT, etc.).
They were brave enough to took risks and did a lot of groundbreaking anime. Even if sometimes it didn't sell well.
>>138985362
>Production IG has been shit for years now
>He doesn't watch Haikyuu that literally best show in this season, because /a/ said it was Fujoshit
You need to take those /a/ glasses for some times, because it blurs your vision and your mind.
>>138985511
You need everything to make a world, fucking egocentrical fuck. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good. And KyoAni took the biggest risk of all studios (except Triangle Staff for doing SEL) by doing E8. None of your anime with weird themes can come closer to doing 8 iterations of the same episode basis for the most popular anime ever and broadcasting them all.
>>138985324
Fuck off moeshitter.
>>138985616
Yamada turned down K-On S3 to do an original anime too.
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>>138972945
Madhouse's only good anime is "SEVEN YEARS HAND DRAWN". Everything else except Tatami fucking SUCKS.
>>138985362
>Madhouse best show in 10 years was animated mostly by freelancers
>>138973977
Trying to be like Kyoannus.
>>138972945
where's Deen?
>>138985681
what
>>138985694
there aren't any awards for being shit anon
How can you not include Studio Pierrot on that list? During the 1980s/1990s they were THE source of straight shoujo and magical girl series.
Also worth mentioning for their heavy influence during the 70s-00s would be Studio DEEN and AIC (and AIC/Artmic)
>>138985674
>I have only seen 5 Madhouse anime
Damn son
>Gainax's only contribution to anime is Eva
>Forgetting about Gunbuster, which is also hugely influential
Dumb image
DEEN only became shit during the 00s and later.
UY
Patlabor
Ranma 1/2
You're Under Arrest!
Rurouni Kenshin
R.O.D.
To me that's pretty damned impressive list.
>>138980447
>Gainax without Eva would be as irrelevant as Deen or Gonzo
Gunbuster, FLCL, Nadia, KareKano, Gurren Lagann, PS&G and Abenobashi all want to have a word with you, especially the first two you fucking imbecile.
>>138985796
>implying
TTG is a fucking modern classic.
>>138985804
>>138985832
Good =/= influential
Eva marked the end of an era and the start of a new one. None of their other works even come close of doing that.
>>138983750
>RM is in
>but not Barcelona
I see
>>138972945
>Toei
>mostly only produced Mahou Shoujo garbage
>influential
>>138985883
None of any works have done that. Evangelion stands alone in an anime as being a medium shifter. Gunbuster, meanwhile has more influence on mecha than anything on that list with the exception of the first Gundam series.
>>138985894
Toei is pretty much the first anime studio ever. They're influential by default.
>>138985894
>Cyborg 009 is Mahou Shoujo garbage
>Devilman is Mahou Shoujo garbage
>Mazinger
>Getter Robo
>Captain Harlock
>Kinnikuman
>Dragon Ball
>Saint Seiya
You're retarded m8.
>>138981771
They are. First they popularized the light novel adaptions of dude in club with bunch of chicks with Haruhi, then they popularized the cute girls dfoing cute things with K-ON.
They're not really as much of a trend-setter studio anymore, though.
>>138985851
No doubt about it, but it's definitely just one of the few madhouse anime you've seen judging from your previous comment.
>>138986010
Because they haven't done much recently. They had Euphonium in 2015 and their current one, but before that it was Free, Chuunibyo and Kyokai no Kanata. The first two, at the very least, were extremely popular. I'm not sure about the latter, but I know a lot of people that like it.
Haruhi's not the first LN that was adapted by Kyoani.
Ever heard of FMP?
>>138986063
>TTGL
>Madhouse
Dude probably replied to the wrong guy.
>>138986063
That wasn't me. I was just chiming in to make sure you weren't talking shit.
>>138985894
Mahou Shoujo "garbage" which served as a starting point for many influential directors (e.g. Sato Jun, Igarashi, Yamauchi, Ikuhara).
>>138986089
TTG = The Tatami Galaxy
>>138981938
Moe trash was influential to turn anime more shit than before.
>>138985574
Haikyuu is just mediocre fojobait school shounen with volleyball and man fanservice.It's popular only bacause it replaced Kuroko no basuke,is serialized in SWJ and has one of the biggest fujo and female fanbase
>>138986089
The success and influence of Haruhi and FMP are oceans apart, and I like FMP well enough.
People seriously underestimate how popular Haruhi was at its peak. That shit was like Japanese Harry Potter.
>>138986089
>new FMP won't be directed by Gatoh's bro
>>138986144
Oh, sorry.
I thought I saw an L there.
>>138986171
I still remember the days when people made videos of themselves with that fucking dance routine.
>>138972945
>kyoani
>redefined cgdct
>no picture of lucky star
I'm getting old
Can we really call Toei influential? I mean they just adapt the stuff that is loved by EVERYONE like DBZ/One Piece/SM and much more.
I can agree with the rest, A1 is 50-50 but I can't think of any other replacements.
>>138986335
>Can we really call probably the most influential studio on that list influential?
Go elsewhere you merseyside fuck.
>>138986335
>Can we really call Toei influential?
Fuck you Lelouch. Just fuck you.
Maybe not influential, but I think MAPPA is pretty good desu.
>>138986409
I mean, for a studio with only a handful of shows, they're not terrible. Zankyou no Terror and Ushio and Tora are both bretty gud 5/5
>>138986429
Zankyou no Terror is gorgeous, but kinda meh. Sakamichi no Apollon and Garo are good too.
>>138986471
Fuck, I totally forgot about Sakamichi no Apollon. That's a damn good show.
>>138986471
The big problem with Zankyou no Terror is that it pretty much loses any hook to keep the viewer intrigued after the airport stuff.
Kids on the Slope is unironically one of the best anime of the 2010s though.
>>138979881
It's funnier when you realize that Bandai/ Sunrise was the ones who made the first Idolm@ster adaptation, and the ones who actually own the franchise.
Madhouse should have more variety of shows on the list instead of just muh Satoshi Kon
>>138986604
No one is going to argue with Satoshi Kon, even though Tatami Galaxy and Record of Lodoss War both deserve to be up there.
>>138986319
>>>/reddit/
>>138985574
>Haikyuu
>good
Choose one
>>138986604
Texhnolyze and CCS should have been there
>>138980588
Anon the first .hack anime came out in 2002. Both after and before that they were a lot of series whose premise was people stuck in a videogame or MMO. .Hack was also a successful multi-media franchise which is why it's still ongoing.
The first light novel for SAO came out in 2009 and the anime 2012, by the time that the first SAO was published the "trapped in a MMO shit" was already a cliche. SAO didn't create the trend it just followed it, and added in the whole self-insert aspect.
>>138972945
>no DEEN
DEEN pioneered DEEEEEN and lesbian physics. They're as influential as any.
>also no Xebec pioneering ass and titties.
>>138980210
.Hack//Sign - 2002
has several anime and even a theatrical film, and it also Yuki Kajiura on the map. Which is probably why A-1 hired her.
>>138986795
Not to mention fucking Digimon is essential that same premise and that's from like the fucking 90s.
Being trapped in virtual reality is as old as Cartesian Geometry.
>>138987258
Around the same time you also have Monster Rancher which was also the exact same thing, and also predates .hack. Anyone who claims that SAO was "influential" doesn't know shit.
Hell even Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles even had a trapped in an MMO arc.
So can we agree that A1 should be remove and possibly Shaft too?
>>138987525
Shaft can stay for the memes, but A-1 can and should just burn already.
>>138983750
But who is VAN LAAL of anime industry?
>>138987556
They made Yaoi Butler though.
>>138987676
1. My BMI is 19.
2. Manliness is not inherently superior to cute things.
>>138983750
>White Fox: Crystal Palace
>>138983750
Where is Lester?
>>138980012
>>138981652
What would they be known for?
>>138985749
>Studio Pierrot
Obviously also UY defining comedy in the 80s.
>>138988211
Get the fuck out of here
>>138988296
>Buttblasted arsefags detected
>>138987676
>>138988065
I can't tell who's trolling who anymore
ITT: It isn't influential because I don't like it.
>>138987761
Yamakan
Toei, Sunrise, Gainax and Kyoani are the only truly relevant ones.
What about ufotable?
>>138972945
Honestly, I don't see shaft as "influential", their series are popular and sell well, but I haven't see anyone using the studio work as an influence.
>>138988690
I.G. basically invented modern anime. I don't see how they're not truly relevant.
Yearly reminder: without the shift to digital animation techniques, your favourite anime might never have existed.
>>138988211
http://www.w-fox.co.jp/
>>138972945
>Madhouse
>Jumpstarted career of many Industry Legends
Let's not forget they killed and ruined careers of many which caused many to move out of they studio. Now it's literally ghosthouse since they lost many of their exceptional talents.
>>138988923
They're not. They're good, and I like some of their stuff, but I don't see them changing anything in the anime industry.
>>138988791
They've made pretty good anime, but are they really any influential? I don't think so.
>>138988965
But anon, my favourite anime is Gunbuster.
>>138988446
>ITT: influential means popular
FTFY
>>138988791
They're in the one trick pony list
>>138988965
If your favorite anime is something from the digital era, you need to leave /a/ now.
>>138972945
>Madhouse
>Jumpstarted career of many Industry Legends
You should put Studio Pierrot there since many of the exceptional directors and animators started and became well known there such as Mamoru Oshii or Akiyuki Shinbo.
>>138989113
Shitbo is the most overrated hack in the industry I swear. Neither bake nor Madoka where his doing, and his previous work is mediocre.
>>138989069
But that's true, to a certain extent. Underrated Masterpiece X might be great, but it can't be influential if nips haven't actually watched it.
>>138989185
How can you hate this beautiful face?
>>138989224
Everything is truth to a certain extent, that's a lousy argument, but being popular doesn't necessarily means being influential, see shaft for example.
>Sunrise
>Revolutionalized mecha
To be fair, Sunrise is relatively big compared to the others. That only really applies to the 1st studio out of a total of...like 13 studios?
Studio 1 made Gundam. The rest makes other stuff.
>>138989303
Yeah Shaft and a1 should be removed from this list to be honest
>>138989364
This
>>138989303
surely succes breeds imitators and thus being influental
>>138989042
What a coincidence. Mines Gunbuster-2-.
>>138989083
Enjoy your film grain, officer.
>>138989452
You're using the same argument, one could argue that it doesn't matter how many people watch it, but who watch it.
Sure, being popular gives you more possibilities to be influential, but again, a lot of the time that's not the case.
>>138989506
>only difference between old and new is the grain
You should get your eyes checked by a capable professional.
>>138989452
Bake and Madoka haven't really influenced anything like Eva did or set trends like K-On and Lucky Star, even though both of these Shaft shows are arguably more sucessful relative to the time they've been out.
>>138989364
Shaft should be removed, but A1 has basically re-industrialized anime. They can and will adapt anything. They're not a studio with any real permanent staff; they're a void in which stories go in, and anime of varying quality comes out.
>>138989358
They weren't always 13 studios.
>>138989692
Yes, but what works has A1 influenced?
>>138989772
Aniplex /A1 influenced other studios and publishers to jew consumers
>>138989822
Except that's Toei and Square.
>>138989692
>They can and will adapt anything.
They haven't and can't adapt materials that have darker contents.
>>138989692
But thing is that's just a practice that's unique to A-1 that other studios (thankfully) haven't picked. They've attempted to re-industrialize it, but I can't say that they've succeeded, because how much of their shit is actually influential?
>>138989822
They've been doing that long before A-1 was even a twinkle Aniplex's eye.
>>138989185
He's a director, not a writer. Bakemonogatari (s1) and Madoka, from a visual standpoint, were his doing.
>>138990055
>he fell for the Shinbo is a director meme
He only gets credited.
>>138990055
Bake is Oishi and Madoka is Miyamoto.
>>138990115
>I don't agree with it so it's a meme
Though I do agree with Shinbo not being a good director and that his actual contribution is minimal, that's a shitty argument and it makes people not taking you serious, unless that's your goal don't use that phrase kid.
>>138972945
A-1 Pictures shows can be great if they have good directors leading them. Some of their greatest hits are /a/'s favorite, even. So stop being so tsundere.
>>138990280
Shitbo is just there to add the necktilts that's about it
>>138972945
That hurts my autism in so many ways, must be a pleb who made that shit,
>>138990339
Let's see your list
>>138990339
ぷれっぶ 我 おまえ 我 だ！
Toei and Sunrise are essentially the grandfathers of anime.
I don't really know how influential Ghibli is, but it wouldn't be surprising if it was.
Gainax is only influential because of NGE.
Aside from Toei and Sunrise, Kyoani is arguably the most influential studio. They completely revitalized and defined the modern SoL genre after Azumanga laid the groundwork.
御兄ちゃんわれ割れが場ckふぃ厘！
御兄ちゃんわれ割れが場ckふぃ厘！
御兄ちゃんわれ割れが場ckふぃ厘！
御兄ちゃんわれ割れが場ckふぃ厘！
日本万歳！
>>138990792
Yes
>>138989945
Shinsekai Yori?
>>138989626
>>Bake and Madoka haven't really influenced anything like Eva
I'm not sure about Bake, but Madoka definitely led to the recent surge of anime using mechanics that use a dark twist. And don't "but this shit existed before and Madoka is a copy of Kamen Rider", YuYuYu and WIXOSS are good example of shows that definitely surfed on the Madoka success.
>shaft
>influential
>>138993172
Influenced my wallet I'm missing 1400 dollars.
>>138979260
sayonara zetsubou sensei
>>138972945
>Sunrise
>revolutionized the mecha genre
>LL! included
What the fuck.
>>138991917
Woah 2 shows very influential indeed
Memes
>>138991917
That shit was around before Madoka.
>>138995270
That and the fact that there're a bunch of mini-Shinbos running studios of their own in the industry.
>>138999617
I am now imagining a bunch of chibi Shinbos running around flailing their arms wanting to be noticed
>>138972945
I can grudgingly agree to all of them except A1. Seriously, A1? Just for SAO?
It needs Pierrot and JC Staff on that list.
>>138980203
>>Gainax
>>Created the post-Eva era
>Making DVD/BD expensive is now a good thing?
>They had a better history before Eva
I agree with the rest of your post. But the picture didn't say positive influences.
Like it or not Eva changed everything.
>>138986880
They hired her cause her contract is through Sony Music. They favor their own people wherever possible like what happens with Sora Amamiya
Here. Just decide yourself which studio that the most influential.
>>138985344
Kill la Kill was a deconstruction of impractically revealing armor.
>>138978082
And A-1 isn't nearly as influential as any of the other studios listed. I don't even see how they're influential at all. They just do whatever the fuck Aniplex wants them to do and that's it.
>people not recognizing Shinbo's influence on the industry
>people not recognizing Bake and Madoka's influence on the industry
Come on people.
>>138981010
>>138983380
>>138986795
Wow that was low quality bait, and all three of you took it.
>>139002355
Bake is good and really popular but what has it influenced?
I don't think I've seen a show close to it.
>>139002355
What influence?
Why the hell is Attack on Titan listed?
It's pure garbage that people only watched because there was literally nothing else good at the time. It will not be remembered for anything, nor did it revolutionize anything
>>138978572
>Look at me talk out my ass
>>138973977
Trigger: saved anime
>>138972945
Thanks OP, I cringed so hard that my head won't come out of my shoulders anymore.
>no Lucky Star on the list
You're done OP.
>>138972945
>unique style
>not trigger
>free redfining cgdct
>set the trapped in mmo trend
>not .hack
absolute shit list
>>139003328
>influence means it has to have another show try to completely copy it
Fucking kill yourself tripfaggot.
>>139005440
Great job evading the question retard. Bake isn't influential at all.
>>138980567
They did change a lot from .hack's era. At least from Sign which dealt with the social, personal and philosophical ramifications of MMOs becoming mainstream, popular forms of entertainment.
>>139005927
Yup, I'm sure the best selling anime of modern times isn't influential at all, especially with all the character clones it's spawned and whatnot.
>>139006514
>especially with all the character clones it's spawned and whatnot
Like?
Fixed. Bake and Madoka might be successful but they weren't trend setters or influential enough. Trapped in Game-like world has been around for decades, if anything Digimon popularized it, and there hasn't been a huge increase in MMO shows since SAO either, less than 10 maybe.
>>139007111
I still think Shaft deserve their spot or at the very least they will do in a few years when their influence becomes more apparent, they are relatively new compared to some of the giants in that image.
Also it's a shame that out of all of those studios, Gainax was the first to die, all of their talent has fragmented into other studios and while their spirit lives on in Trigger, Trigger doesn't have the bank to do what Gainax could.
>>139006867
Just off the top of my head.
>>139008541
Oh yeah, and KnK from the influential "moe" studio, is pretty much a monogatari fanfic.
>>139008704
Sarcasm? KnK is nothing like Bake.
>>138984715
>Garden of Words.
It and 5cm are both distressingly poor facsimiles of water color backgrounds wholly inferior to the genuine article you'd see in days gone by.
Wolf Children's even worse but there's some decent animation that they obviously focused more on.
>>139008704
>>139008541
>>139008541
Aren't all of those LN characters? And most of them from before the monogatari anime aired?
If that's the case then the influence is Nisio and not shaft
>>139008541
If anything that influence came from Nisio, not SHAFT.
>>139008751
The author of KnK really liked Monogatari and wanted to make something like it himself. So he wrote KnK, which is much edgier and mre serious than the anime, but just as shit. KyoAni of course "moe"-fied it and lightened it up a lot.
>>139007887
>or at the very least they will do in a few years
maybe, only time can tell, but from the time being, no, they don't.
>>139008963
In that case the influence would be Nisio Isin, not shaft.
>>139008789
The high budget work of today is almost wholly inferior to what was done in the 90s.
It's part outsourcing. It's part lost decade dragging on meaning there's less domestic talent in the first place. It's part a sea change in standards.
Regardless the big player anime of the 90s saw worldwide recognition. It's no coincidence that currently the international artfag types no longer care.
>>139008859
>>139008922
I do think it mostly is due to Nisio, but the Gahara type character didn't get really popular until Bake aired.
>>139008963
>The author of KnK really liked Monogatari and wanted to make something like it himself.
>[citacion needed]
>>139009102
You don't know much about LN, do you? I'm not even saying reading, just general knowledge.
>>139008963
Good, I fucking hate edgemaster shows. KnK anime had just the rights amounts of moe with a very moderate sparkle of edge.
>>139009192
You don't know much about English, do you? I'm not even talking about grammar, just general knowledge.
>>139009323
>le grammar nazi meme
Please leave kid.
>>139009323
>can't make a counter-argument
>y-your grammar sucks!
>>139009458
>making a counter argument against ad hominem
There is nothing to make a counter argument against, ESL-kun.
>>139009572
So you can't answer yes or no and just made a retorical question in order to make the other party look bad? Too bad it didn't work.
>>139009686
A. That's not how you counter a logical fallacy.
B. Fuck off unless you're fluent in English.
>>139009855
>can't find a way to win the discussion
>uses to le grammar nazi meme
Please leave and don't comeback.
>>139009855
U no tell me h0w I rite kiddo.
>>139009855
You have to be over 18 to post in this place.
Calm down lads. Not everyone knows perfect english. SHAFT is mildly influential but their spot on that list is debatable.
>>139010060
There's nothing to debate, shaft doesn't belongs to that list, at least not now, maybe in the future.
>>139009100
I think work now is not as good as back then because with the digital age came the millennials and they're not used to being patient. Investors want to see the shows they invest in within a relatively small timeframe. So even with huge budgets you still need to rush and rely on automation. You can't just spend 2 weeks on a background that will appear for 5 seconds.
![[EG]Gurren_Lagann_25_BD(720p_10bit)[89886662].mkv_snapshot_20.13_[2016.03.23_21.04.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T72jVWU.jpg "[EG]Gurren Lagann 25 BD(720p 10bit)[89886662].mkv snapshot 20.13 [2016.03.23 21.04.38]")
>>139009964
>>139009972
>>139010035
So this is the power of ESL's and anti-SHAFTfags...
A1 isn't even a real studio. It's just aniplex's name for their 10-20 production staff, everything else is freelancers.
>>139010216
I think hopping on the bandwagon drove down standards when people simply didn't have the technology. Things aren't as abysmal as they were right around 2000 thankfully.
That said digital production has increased productivity to levels never before seen, and I think that's led to a vast normalization of quality.
![[Frostii]_K-On!!_B-Side_Theater_-_Uraon!!_-_5_[68EDDDCF].mkv_snapshot_00.27_[2016.03.08_23.17.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4exmkwD.jpg "[Frostii] K-On!! B-Side Theater - Uraon!! - 5 [68EDDDCF].mkv snapshot 00.27 [2016.03.08 23.17.46]")
FACT: Toei from 1980~2004 is the greatest anime studio of all time
>>139002355
>Bake
Lets give credit where credit is due here. The influence it has had is in large part due to it being adapted from one of the greatest literary works of the 21st century.
>>139010274
And then we have the underaged idiot that thinks everything is a studiofag fight.
>>138972945
>Set the 'Trapped in MMO' Trend
Nigger did you even watch .hack//SIGN?
Fuck all this shit.
>>139010060
Shinbo alone should claim Shaft a spot. Once even more staff spread out from Shaft and to different studios, his influence will become much more apparent. We even have an anime by one of his former pupils this season and it's AOTS.
>>139010522
>one of the greatest literary works of the 21st century.
I love Bake, but let's not kid ourselves.
>>139010705
> an anime by one of his former pupils
Rakugo, right?
>>139010705
Takaomi Kanasaki was Shinbo's pupil?
>>138978171
You don't have to be Einstein to understand Ping Pong.
It literally takes no effort to watch.
>>139010880
The godawful artstyle
>>139010836
Bingo.
>>139010868
KonoSuba is good but it's not AOTS.
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